The Yaris GR Gets a Thrashing from a 23 Year Old Peugeot 106 Rallye

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  • Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
  • The Toyota Yaris GR has received rave reviews, but can it stand up to the old school simplicity and feel offered by a Peugeot 106 Rallye? Toyota did a great job with this car but in terms of pure driving feel and experience the Peugeot will be hard to beat!
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  • @pauln0371
    @pauln0371 3 роки тому +31

    A mate of mine had a 106 Rallye 1.3 in Red back in the 90s. What an absolute hoot to drive. You could just barrel it into any corner and it would just fly round. One of the best FWD cars ever..👍👍

  • @drewwagar
    @drewwagar 3 роки тому +62

    Old cars have a feeling of immediacy new cars can no longer have due to weight/safety. I reckon driver involvement peaked in the 1990s and has slid off ever since.

    • @rtorbs
      @rtorbs 3 роки тому +9

      The digital age mate.....we use sat nav instead of our brains to work out where were going, we use TCS/ABS/Airbags instead of driver skill to get us out of car crashes......the more we advance technologically and thus rely on it the weaker we actually become as a species imo......not that i dont welcome the safety advances btw its just a general observation of human advancement .....if thats what were actually doing lol

    • @another3997
      @another3997 3 роки тому +8

      The answer to this is... buy a Caterham 7. You can't get much more involvement than that. 😉

    • @J2I3H
      @J2I3H 3 роки тому +2

      Suzuki ignis/swift sport, citroen saxo vts, Mitsubishi Colt turbo, fiat 500 Abarth, Renault Twingo rs, Toyota Yaris t-sport,.. etc. All after 2000,

    • @willross7121
      @willross7121 3 роки тому +1

      Motorbike👍

    • @monsieurvoiture
      @monsieurvoiture 3 роки тому

      GT86 ? Caterham ? Elise ?

  • @organiccold
    @organiccold 3 роки тому +59

    Back home in Portugal we had a special edition of the Rallye called Rallye R2, was limited to 50 units and had different air induction kit, upgraded exhaust, upgrades brakes and coillovers and a remap. Was a funny car.

    • @ruicanaveira1718
      @ruicanaveira1718 3 роки тому +2

      É um carro fantástico esse R2, quem o tem que o estime 🙏

    • @lefiosalex
      @lefiosalex 3 роки тому +3

      We had a similar one here in Greece called the s16 i think

    • @nunobarbosa2456
      @nunobarbosa2456 3 роки тому +2

      @@lefiosalex the s16 is a 106 mk2, the R2 only came out in Portugal and it is mk1 chassis. Exist 1.3 8v rallye mk1, 1.6 8v rallye mk2 and the gti 1.6 16v...our gti is your S16 correct?

    • @johnmonogios9173
      @johnmonogios9173 3 роки тому +2

      Yes. In Greece instead of Gti there was the S16.Plus in mk1 chassis there was also the xsi version also. I am not a fan of French cars but I have to admit that these little rockets were a wolf in sheep’s clothing. A proper low budget entry car for the amateurs. Especially here in Greece these cars are still running and writing times. It’ll take them anytime instead of the Yaris.

  • @MurrayC
    @MurrayC 3 роки тому +40

    I loved my 106XS back in the 90s - I like underpowered cars that you can drive flat out and have fun

    • @jimmyjt16
      @jimmyjt16 3 роки тому +2

      I had a 1.4 xsi. Brilliant car

    • @DragonNova
      @DragonNova 3 роки тому

      @@jimmyjt16 me too, you could thrash that thing silly :)

    • @terryg1575
      @terryg1575 3 роки тому

      I had a brilliant Fiesta ST like that. Probably one of the best drivers cars of recent times. As good as it was, it was so much better when I went Stage 2+.

    • @badusername4
      @badusername4 3 роки тому

      Anyone tried a empty Citroen c1 mk1 on a county road ragging it.. so much fun 🤩

    • @onlineaccount
      @onlineaccount 3 роки тому

      Same for me, I had a saxo forte modded and it was a huge amount of fun, was only a 1.1 but was producing 70 bhp in 850kg and lowered 60mm 40mm, never had a car like it since and remains my favourite

  • @BEGGARWOOD1
    @BEGGARWOOD1 3 роки тому +67

    Never mind the Yaris did you spot the old Saab !!

    • @MOSSFEEN
      @MOSSFEEN 3 роки тому

      96

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle 3 роки тому +2

      That made me smile 😃
      Ran an old 96 V4 for a few years ... Magnificent car, with many advanced features for the time ... freewheel system, hazard lights, heated seats, etc. Rugged too ... with its own unique style ...
      I do miss that car ... ☹

    • @eyman67
      @eyman67 3 роки тому +3

      Quite appropriate that a rally legend should sneak in a cameo appearance...

    • @malcolmhardwick4258
      @malcolmhardwick4258 3 роки тому +1

      SAAB RIP.

    • @lopezben3023
      @lopezben3023 3 роки тому

      .
      . *NOT, NOT, NOT ... Peuge-NOT.*
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      .

  • @robbwatson2088
    @robbwatson2088 3 роки тому +17

    Your smile said it all.
    As a bonus, I'd still have license with the Pug.

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool 3 роки тому +20

    Weight is everything. Or, should I say, the lack of weight. The GR is probably about as light as it could be given its tech details. Well done Toyota. A great experiment in "progress".

  • @gilesstokes5674
    @gilesstokes5674 3 роки тому +5

    I had a ‘98 blue 106 Rallye from new. Awesome car. Cornered like it was on rails & the engine was so willing to give everything. Great video, brought back some good memories. Thanks!

  • @OldCarsNewVan
    @OldCarsNewVan 3 роки тому +27

    Your reaction to the 106 is how I feel every time I drive my old mx5 mk1, 1.6. 1993. So much fun within the speed limit. The Yaris is like a sports bike - it’s no fun unless you’re full ‘on it’ which is licence losing.

    • @th3b0untyhunter
      @th3b0untyhunter 3 роки тому +2

      Totally different.
      An mx5 talks to you and is rwd.
      The 106 (or 205) rallye is simply a slow hatchback with decent handling for fwd.
      There's no comparison

    • @OldCarsNewVan
      @OldCarsNewVan 3 роки тому +6

      I know they’re completely different. I said his reaction was the same - that sheer grin factor

    • @christineayres5339
      @christineayres5339 3 роки тому +8

      Older cars i say were more fun , i used to drive a 1993 Rover Metro , you would think that would be awful but it was amazing fun . like a little go kart and you felt all the road , where as nowadays new cars are too refined , you dont even feel the road through the steering anymore , its like the car is doing all the work and your a passenger not good.

    • @asifnoaman8978
      @asifnoaman8978 3 роки тому +9

      @@th3b0untyhunter stop speaking from your arse mate

    • @NobodyI991
      @NobodyI991 3 роки тому +4

      @@th3b0untyhunter I very much doubt a MK1 1.6 is faster than a 106 Rallye. The Rallye has better power to weight. With a driver, the mx5 weigh's over a ton, the 106 is still under a ton with driver. I highly doubt 10hp give or take will make a difference. Plus the 106 has steelies and less contact patch, equal it up to the mx5 with allows same contact patch then the numbers will slightly increase for the pug, again out performing the mx5. (Something with 100hp and under 1200kg has more than enough power for a legal overtake) obviously it's not been safe to do the overtakes you've been trying or you haven't been in the right gear at the right time.

  • @chinesetarkovplayer3799
    @chinesetarkovplayer3799 3 роки тому +33

    I can't get over how good the 106 looks in comparison to the yaris. Such a cool car!

    • @hoagy_ytfc
      @hoagy_ytfc 2 роки тому +4

      Easier to design looks when you don't have to worry about modern safety standards! I never drove a 106 but had two 205 GTi cars (one 1.6 and one 1.9 afterwards). I miss them.
      I'm here soaking up all the GR Yaris videos because I'm getting mine this week, yay.

  • @nieko3038
    @nieko3038 3 роки тому +11

    Haha that licenceplate of the 106. Don't think you will see KUT on dutch plates. Lovely car.

  • @aerickvesereu1796
    @aerickvesereu1796 3 роки тому +11

    Hearing him talk about the Peugot makes me feel like Peugeot just made the car as cheep as possible and Marketed it as a rallye car. 😂

    • @Iansea1967
      @Iansea1967 3 роки тому +1

      Nope. The earlier 1.3litre car was solely aimed at winning in the under 1300cc class in Group A and N rallying. It followed on not only from the 205 Rallye but also the Citroen AX Sport, Citroen VISA Trophee and Talbot Samba Rallye. The 2nd version shown here was not commonly used as a rally car as the larger engine put it in a class with more powerful vehicles.

    • @ichbinb0b83
      @ichbinb0b83 4 місяці тому

      It was actually as cheap with the brakes and the rims, because rally teams would upgrade them anyway. So why would the fit some brembos if they get swapped out for AP racing or why put fancy alloy wheels on it if some Rallyeteams would get speedline or oz. It was the perfect base to get a fast small Rallye car and that was typical in the 90s and early 2000s.

  • @yellowrat77
    @yellowrat77 3 роки тому +12

    Well captured - the Pug is direct and alive with feedback while the in car Toyota footage accurately represents the mechanical separation between driver and car. The cloud that you referred to comes across clearly to those familiar with different eras of automobiles. Would love to see your take on a nice family hauler named Espada.

  • @the1beard
    @the1beard 3 роки тому +10

    That's the key feeling great at the speed limit
    Same as the lotus elise 👍

  • @neilhaskell7264
    @neilhaskell7264 2 роки тому +4

    Well done for your honesty and telling the truth, most reviews jump on the bandwagon of ‘new’ must be better.
    I have driven the 106 and can appreciate your views.
    I have also driven the Yaris many times and appreciate its technical ability, but also feel the slightly false ‘woolly’ sensation you are describing.
    Just for reference, if you want the old fashioned unsuppressed feeling in a small car, try the Mini GP3, it’s a terrible road car, but I bet you won’t stop smiling, it’s a real old school approach to driving that won’t be available anymore, due to ‘safe’ ‘practical’ and modern car reviews.
    Well done for telling it as it is.
    It’s a breath of fresh air 😎.

  • @stevejohnson1231
    @stevejohnson1231 3 роки тому +6

    Funny that a Yaris would feel like a big car, but it's so true that todays small cars are huge compared to the equivalent from 20 years ago.

    • @tonyw2960
      @tonyw2960 3 роки тому +1

      @Lassi Kinnunen 81 aygo

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle 3 роки тому +1

      It's amusing to see the new 'Mini' parked next to the original and wonder why it's still called a 'Mini' as they're huge in comparison !

    • @xu5144
      @xu5144 3 роки тому

      VW now make the Up, including a gti version. But even that weights over a ton now. The latest Twingo was rear engined but kinda constrained by stability management. Not sure you can still get a new Twingo, I think it is discontinued in the UK at least.

    • @tonyw2960
      @tonyw2960 3 роки тому

      @Lassi Kinnunen 81 we don't get a brio what is that like? But then i didn't see the rear engine twingo either sounds with a tweak it could have been interesting with no stability control 🤔

  • @Piner5074
    @Piner5074 3 роки тому +8

    Will always kick myself for not buying the 205 rallye when they were new to the market. It was one of the cars I looked at, and going for a Vauxhall Astra instead because it had more toys - obviously totally missing the point.
    Also loved that old Saab 96 that was behind you when you pulled out of the drive

  • @michaelpegasiou4531
    @michaelpegasiou4531 3 роки тому +3

    Those Peugeot’s were so common back in the day,love the colour and the look.I knew you would prefer the Peugeot.

  • @asphalthedgehog6580
    @asphalthedgehog6580 3 роки тому +5

    Yes, I took my 106GTI a few times to the UK B roads, and these cars were fantastic. GTI had power steering, but felt a lot faster and made less noise.

    • @joseijkens8722
      @joseijkens8722 2 роки тому

      I did have a 106 GTI also, after that 2 times Saxo 1.6 16V never had cars since with the same feedback, and still comfortable enough.

  • @chrisb9360
    @chrisb9360 3 роки тому +7

    I had an early one (1.3). It was lighter than standard due to the optional rust pack. And that was when it was only 5 years old. Great fun though.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @amnril
      @amnril 3 роки тому

      Rust pack 🥴😂😂😂😂

  • @focus3303
    @focus3303 3 роки тому

    Well Jack....another great vlog made by yourself.
    I totally agree you can't beat the car's from the latter day's.
    Keep them coming 🙂👍

  • @mikep6245
    @mikep6245 3 роки тому +3

    So happy that you like this car! I've been following you for so long. My GR Yaris will arrive later this month. I think that the GR Yaris is the best you can do for a modern car.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому

      Agree!! Hope you enjoy it!

  • @hrvojekis8880
    @hrvojekis8880 2 роки тому

    I still have 106 1.6. Rallye since 2006. Still on the road. Still on the parking. Still makes me young. Im 32. And love with 106 will never fade.

  • @bluerallyes2
    @bluerallyes2 3 роки тому +1

    865kgs for the non-PAS S2 Rallye. 890 Kgs for the PAS. Had mine for 15 years, miss it everyday. GrpN exhaust and the long way to work via the back roads, brilliant times.

  • @timothymills733
    @timothymills733 3 роки тому +18

    I am certain I am older than you, but this still makes me want to say "ok grandpa" ;-)

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому +2

      😃😂😂😂😂😂 👴🏼

  • @roseaudio145
    @roseaudio145 3 роки тому +1

    Pugs from the 80's - 90's were the best GTI's, not the most modern engines but brilliant chassis, suspension balance and lightness giving so much pleasure to drive.

    • @christianrnnov4873
      @christianrnnov4873 3 роки тому

      There is also the 206 rc thats the most underated gti in 2004 its so great.

  • @nigelbullock9039
    @nigelbullock9039 3 роки тому +3

    Great vlog. Had to put my supper down to watch the whole vlog.. Well worth it and a cold spag boll.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому +1

      Ha! Thanks Nigel

  • @gweflj
    @gweflj 3 роки тому +5

    I’d have the 106 all day long. Simplicity is the key for me.

    • @JP-cu2gm
      @JP-cu2gm Рік тому

      As a second car, yes this is the correct answer

    • @gregrobins5615
      @gregrobins5615 Рік тому

      @@JP-cu2gm His first car must be the 106 GTi then !

    • @JP-cu2gm
      @JP-cu2gm Рік тому

      @@gregrobins5615 😂

  • @bretkaiser7355
    @bretkaiser7355 3 роки тому

    My favorite car I have owned was a 76 Datsun 280z. The rust was so bad that only a blind man on a fast horse in the rain at a distance on a dark night would admire it. No working AC and no working radio, but the power antenna would go up and down so you could fake it for the girls. However, the rebuilt inline six, lack of power steering, ancient suspension, and teenage stupidity taught me a great deal about managing oversteer for fun. Maybe next time I will tell you about the time I took my father's RX7 out to see how fast it would go.... Great video, Jack. I always look forward to your new posts, even if I have to watch the damn commercials so you can get Ferrari parts. At least one of us gets to live the dream. Much love from Springfield, Missouri.
    Bret

  • @mikaeljohnsson4982
    @mikaeljohnsson4982 3 роки тому +2

    Brings back great memories of my white 106 Rallye 1,6 I had. Once you got to know that lift off-oversteer you could really play with it. Tracks, frozen lakes - or just a back road. They really are special.

    • @Lotus.F
      @Lotus.F 3 роки тому

      Totally agree with you, I had the first generation 1.3 back in 1993 pure driving pleasure unmatched with modern day cars.

    • @mikaeljohnsson4982
      @mikaeljohnsson4982 3 роки тому

      @@Lotus.F Nice to hear. The Mk 1/1,3 Rallye was unfortunately never imported new to Sweden, but they looked cool with red seat belts (have I seen in pictures) and must have been even lighter still. Even more fun perhaps. The 1,6 is actually a quite revy engine also being a 8-valve and I found a Devil manifold that made my car even better. When Mk 2/1,6 Rallye came along Peugeot compensated in some way by only import the Rallye plus one "grandmother version". That made the Rallye sell very well in SWE for some years. All in white. True, these tiny Rallyes are so different to modern "tanks" that you could almost say it was a different vehicle. Almost.

  • @GarryParker
    @GarryParker 3 роки тому +1

    Glad you finally tried the Rallye and loved it! As I commented on one of your 205 vids, I traded a 1.6 205 GTI for a brand new 1.6 106 Rallye back in the day and loved the 106 so much more. It did help that it wasn't knackered! I saw the same Rallye for sale last year and it hadn't lost a penny in value.

    • @gerryr1893
      @gerryr1893 3 роки тому

      Still have a 205 great car 106 was rubbish

  • @kipsome45
    @kipsome45 3 роки тому +1

    Back in the day I sold Peugeots for a living at a main dealership in Godalming, Surrey. During my time there, my company demonstrators included a 205 Rallye in bright yellow, a 205 GTI 1.9 (with factory PAS) and one of the first 106 XSI ‘s. These are are all now very covetable cars, and with good reason!

    • @stephenpeacock2627
      @stephenpeacock2627 3 роки тому

      Had a 205 1.9 gti h ref so no cat nor pas but modded and lowered. Ran 170bhp compared to 130bhp stock, though stock most 205 1.9s ran at nearer 127bhp. Mine was fast at the time.

  • @prof_tim
    @prof_tim 3 роки тому +11

    The high point for me was the SAAB 96 at 8:12 .... :)

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому

      😄😄😄

    • @MrDalemami
      @MrDalemami 3 роки тому

      Yes!

    • @jb_1750
      @jb_1750 3 роки тому

      Hehe, agreed - had a v4 96 and an S2 rallye, and both were equally grin inducing..!

  • @IvermectinFTW
    @IvermectinFTW 3 роки тому

    Thank you for your great review. I feel as though I have just driven both cars!

  • @Lotus.F
    @Lotus.F 3 роки тому

    I had the first generation 106 Rallye 1.3 1993 mine was red, I took off all the stickers replaced the white steel wheels with silver alloys upgraded with electric windows, radio and good speakers. It was pure raw driving pleasure just like rallying, so responsive due to light weight and I used to red lined it through every gear. Such fond memories of that car more so because it was the first car I bought. I think the first generation 106 Rallye looked better due to it having a more aggressive front bumper. Great video...

  • @alansilver3482
    @alansilver3482 3 роки тому +3

    I understand what your saying. But I have ordered a gr yaris. I am keeping my clio cup rs and I must say the gr in the wet would just leave the others standing. On the indy circuit no contest.

  • @blatantlyjohn6234
    @blatantlyjohn6234 3 роки тому +2

    Great review! Had my VTS for 11 years, an absolute hoot

    • @joseijkens8722
      @joseijkens8722 2 роки тому

      Same here, drove as well the 106 GTI as the Saxo 16V, unbelievable fun!

  • @twozup1098
    @twozup1098 3 роки тому

    The presentation in Jacks vids are getting very professional. Not long before Top Gear or Fifth Gear come knocking.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому

      You’re too kind buddy.. my presentation is awful. I wouldn’t wish myself upon TG or anything similar! Can hardly string a sentence together!

  • @ingopaul67
    @ingopaul67 3 роки тому +1

    Drove my friends 106 Rallye for a trackday around Donnington 15 years ago, bit slow on the straights but great grip round the corners. Nice drive.

  • @christiangallagher1689
    @christiangallagher1689 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the great test: It helped a lot to make a decision what to purchase. At the end of the day, I went for a 106 s16 which I'm going to collect next weekend :-) Yes, you pay 6K for a good one: But more fun combined with less cash sounds like a great deal. I have driven the GR Yaris as well and have to agree that there's no way to keep your license if you're going to have fun on public roads - the Peugeot, at least in this respect, is a much safer car :-)

  • @robertlloyd7493
    @robertlloyd7493 3 роки тому +2

    Great take on this theme 👍

  • @nickmurray721
    @nickmurray721 3 роки тому +2

    The fact that the “engine” noise of the GR Yaris is actually piped into the cabin via the speakers is enough to expose the digital nature of the car.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому

      True!!

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo 3 роки тому

      Unlike the German, British and Korean brands with their "off road use only" modes, Toyota (and Honda) actually followed the rules to the letter on the noise regulations like good citizens. The noise limit for vehicles will be continually reduced every year under WLTP regulations until 2032, in order to make the transition to EV seamless. :)

  • @TassieLorenzo
    @TassieLorenzo 3 роки тому +4

    Re: The 900kg comment, it would be interesting to see Jack's take on the modern Suzuki Swift Sport. It's 970kg kerb weight.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 3 роки тому

      Although the Swift's have always been relatively light, I would take that figure with a pinch of salt... most manufacturers tend to be quite imaginative when publishing these figures.

  • @migueldias3157
    @migueldias3157 10 місяців тому

    "blast from the past"
    "Feel by the wheel"
    We a driver and a poet 👍🤣

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. 3 роки тому

    thanks for another great contrast between old and new...

  • @TheAussieRod
    @TheAussieRod 3 роки тому +1

    Well, Jack, I guess I had to wait 2 months to get a proper review of the GR, now that you put it in perspective

  • @nathanbenich9204
    @nathanbenich9204 3 роки тому +1

    I concur. I like stick shifts over automatic and/or paddle shifters for sports cars. You can really feel the car. Even Jay Leno has the same mentality. Cheers!;)

  • @carlmarkwyatt
    @carlmarkwyatt 3 роки тому

    Brilliant video, thanks.

  • @misa664
    @misa664 3 роки тому +6

    You should try suzuki swift, its only modern "sporty" car that weights less than a ton

  • @GenaF
    @GenaF 3 роки тому

    Great video, gimme the puglet any day though. Your smile is lovely Jack x

  • @andrewe7314
    @andrewe7314 3 роки тому +1

    I owned a S1 106 Rallye 1.3 for the second half of the 90’s. Fabulous car, most fun to drive car I’ve ever owned. Wish I’d kept it now.

    • @Lotus.F
      @Lotus.F 3 роки тому

      Can't agree with you more, I had the same car in red. Gosh those were the days with pure driving experience unmatched with modern cars.

    • @groovydutchman7257
      @groovydutchman7257 3 роки тому

      Glad I kept my white S1, which also happened to be my first car. I’m planning on restoring it when I find a good garage!

  • @richardcarter1000
    @richardcarter1000 3 роки тому +1

    The Yaris GR is the only new car for a while, that I am excited enough to spend cash on. I've only been buying classics otherwise. Very tempting.

  • @DoubleDeckerAnton
    @DoubleDeckerAnton 3 роки тому

    Love both these cars.

  • @eze8970
    @eze8970 3 роки тому +1

    You just cant beat weight/physics. Both great cars in their own way though, thanks Jack!

  • @imaweerascal
    @imaweerascal 3 роки тому +3

    That's a cracking video, thank you :)
    Part of me is really lusting after that Yaris, but I suspect it's actually got too much performance to really enjoy on the roads without being a dangerous idiot.
    I'm totally with you on this analogue vs modern thing though, and it is frustrating because modern cars are so much better in other ways. But the truth is that I've still never driven anything better than my old 1990 Honda CRX VTEC - light, fast, unassisted steering. You just felt such an intimate connection with the car.

    • @Stringwar
      @Stringwar 3 роки тому +2

      I had a 92 Vtec CRX. It was such a good car and the engine was bomb proof and so gorgeous to rev, even at 14yrs old. It went through every MoT with barely any cost and handled so flat and sharp. Really miss it.

    • @imaweerascal
      @imaweerascal 3 роки тому

      @@Stringwar yeah indeed, ditto for mine. Still really miss it! Decent ones go for quite a few quid now..

  • @TM-on4jl
    @TM-on4jl 3 роки тому

    My thinking Paul,you enjoy the more vintage type motors...lol..Enjoyed the video....

  • @Inazuma68
    @Inazuma68 3 роки тому

    I see your point, I bought a 996.2 GT3 because of that driving feeling. What a steering, what an engine...

  • @user-or9ey2ld6s
    @user-or9ey2ld6s 3 роки тому +2

    You should review a 206 RC and a 207 RC (maybe compare them?). Great video. Thank you! :)

  • @Lot76CARS
    @Lot76CARS 3 роки тому +2

    Great comparison, just shows how right Peugeot got it the first time around

  • @javalam7769
    @javalam7769 3 роки тому

    Brilliant review, agree totally

  • @deanowarrior
    @deanowarrior 3 роки тому +2

    Remember driving my mates 106 Rallye on a country lane in North Wales , not getting any of the love you have , it was too skittish by far and unreliable in its response. One bump or camber and it was bounced off course. It was built like cardboard too. My old delta turbo IE at the time crushed it easily And was more fun. I have a GR and it's amazing,when people say it's not got enough magic it's because it has no weaknesses ,it gets from A2B in the shortest possible time exactly as designed. Character is often disguised as weaknesses in a cars arsenal.

  • @CL9k24a3
    @CL9k24a3 Рік тому

    Like running 100km h with aquarium on your head ... That is how I would describe driving 106. Love mine

  • @piersclarkson9712
    @piersclarkson9712 3 роки тому +1

    I have a 106 Gti sprint hillclimb car which i drive out in the country... it wont do more tha 100mph due to gearing.. quaife diff and box...
    I am keeping it for ever as i love it!
    I am getting a GR as i want somthing more modern for day to day duties and longer road trips!

  • @brownsworthy7323
    @brownsworthy7323 3 роки тому

    Drove a 106 back in the late 90's. Front struts were buggered rattled, banged and moved about on the road but was still fun to drive.
    I think that's part of driving a car that people have gotten away from that something shitty with lacklustre performance can be fun and get caught up in the numbers.
    BTW I do have a GR Yaris and absolutely bloody love the thing!

  • @forresten
    @forresten 3 роки тому

    And now I do really want to find a 106 or a Saxo VTS and just have fun ..
    The thing with the new Yaris, for me is, they reinvented something that was there, and gave it some more power.
    While the new Toyota is indeed interesting .. that kind of fun was already there, some 20 years ago, albeit with less power.
    Now even I do want to go around in these to see what they really are about. Thank you, Jack! :)

    • @user-yb8sh1rz6b
      @user-yb8sh1rz6b 2 роки тому +1

      mate try to own a 106 gti and you will never regret..it has more solid and precise steering wheel that is not compares to anything..vts and rallye steering wheels are the same sharp but a little lighter..i dont know the reason maybe the weight of the front that gti is 60 kilos heavier in front or in the settings of the ECU and the electric signals to the electric steering pumb..mine GTI i don t change it neither with a 911..it s my toy and the best wheel from anything i have touched till now

  • @realnutteruk1
    @realnutteruk1 3 роки тому

    I had a 205XS, so a bit basic spec, with a 1.4 engine..... an absolute hoot! It had GTi wheels and tyres on so the level of grip exceeded the needs of the engine, which just meant you could cane it everywhere.... It's much more fun driving a basic car flat out, than driving something stupidly quick at 20%.... My current 03 Mini One, at 90bhp is perfect.

  • @IAN1000IAN
    @IAN1000IAN 3 роки тому +1

    With a steering wheel like that you'd mix in with the 90's boy racers on Rhyl front

  • @busterboy7505
    @busterboy7505 3 роки тому

    Nice one Jack, old ones are the best 👍👍.

  • @youri8858
    @youri8858 Рік тому

    I have a 1.1 peugeot 106 built in 2001, love the car

  • @markwilliamson9027
    @markwilliamson9027 3 роки тому

    Had a nova sport in 1985 they built 502 examples lightest base body twin 40 webber's uprated front brakes larger exhaust loud
    sr seats great fun had it for 8 years 85000 miles have not seen any on the road for years

  • @user-yb8sh1rz6b
    @user-yb8sh1rz6b 2 роки тому

    i own a 106 gti and i have never regreted..it has more solid and precise steering wheel that is not compares to anything..vts and rallye steering wheels are the same sharp but a little lighter..i dont know the reason maybe the weight of the front that gti is 60 kilos heavier in front or in the settings of the ECU and the electric signals to the electric steering pumb..mine GTI i don t change it neither with a 911..it s my toy and the best information steering wheel from anything i have touched till now...of course and the GR is an amazing car but don t forget that it is another category with a very different chassis and geometry ,horse power than peugeot 106 rallye...very nice video !!!

  • @tonyb1223
    @tonyb1223 3 роки тому +2

    I think I would go for the 106 as well, though its nothing against the GR, I just think that I would be disappointed with the high expectations that everyone has given it, and having owned some very nice rally reps (a new 2003 WRX STI Spec C and a 2003 WRX STI Spec C limited), I would be comparing the 2.
    The Spec C was only 35kg heavier than the GR, had a twin scroll 2ltr with its gentlemens agreed 280ps and pulled from 1000 rpm, it was a monster, the GR's smaller displacement won't put me off, and its going to be better on fuel, it's downsides are the modern tech that has gone into it, the seating position is a little high (sometimes not a bad thing), but the mirror and display screen would annoy me a little.
    Still, the GR has a lure that most modern cars don't give you, I may be tempted to invest in one and forget about all the hype that goes with it.

  • @JasonV8S550
    @JasonV8S550 3 роки тому

    I think that is the issue with all modern cars. They have become a little sterile. I have a GR Yaris on order but there is nothing like a late 80s or 90s sports car for driving feel. Anyway, randomly found your channel today and subbed. A very good a well balanced drive review.

  • @bluein2red423
    @bluein2red423 3 роки тому +3

    Rear camber FTW!

  • @alexmat106
    @alexmat106 3 роки тому +1

    The S2 Rallye like the one you have here stayed in production 95-98 and predates the Gti which came out 97-03. Honestly the Gti is better all around but 50-60kg heavier, most of it in the front. The 16 valve engine found its way not only in the Gti but also in a "rallye" version called the S16 as a homologation special.
    P.S. Gear lever is shite from new but can be modified to a good level!

  • @baronvonteuchter1412
    @baronvonteuchter1412 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. There’s a Quaife quickrack available for these that transforms the front end 👍

  • @johnireland1629
    @johnireland1629 3 роки тому +1

    Good to see you having fun. I think you miss your own Peugeot...maybe some French blood in your veins. The only Yaris of this type we might get in the US would actually be a Corolla, the Yaris model was a flop here. You are really good at doing these comparisons because it is all about the smile on your face...that is what describes the cars. I know that your experiences compliment my own...speed is always fun, it is really a car's total gestalt that makes it great, not just the power. I'm starting to look for a mid-seventies Alfa Alfetta Sport Coupe...to turn into a great little cafe racer. Not really a track car, just a car that has great soul, beautiful lines, excellent handling, and enough power to make me smile. I would enjoy seeing you revisit some of your past cars and compare them with modern stuff. Doesn't need to be apples and apples...just two cars from different eras and how they feel next to each other. I think if more of your fans lived in your part of the world, you would have an army of friends willing to help you work on your cars. Best wishes.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому

      Good to hear from you John!! It’s a shame you guys miss out on so many cars over there.. BUT... the ones you can get are often much cheaper. Especially the US ones!

  • @Dave-gl6jb
    @Dave-gl6jb 3 роки тому +1

    I have a base GR and would never give it up for Pug but each to there own. It's like a classic song done 20 years later. PS You did make some good points. I would have liked GR to be more RAW like no GPS or back seats and a version with low tech for Fun but it's 2021 and loud Exhaust.
    I say enjoy both for different reasons and different tastes. Plus you could always Mod the GR into your own tastes.
    PS Last if I could have a 90s car a R34 anyday or a old Dodge Viper.
    Love our cars.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому +1

      Enjoy your GR Dave and thanks for watching!

    • @Dave-gl6jb
      @Dave-gl6jb 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks mate. I am loving it and even the small faults. Toyota GT86 and Corolla GR are coming so it's a exciting time for Toyota right now.
      I always wanted a Evo X but happy with my choice.😎

  • @wrongcheese
    @wrongcheese 3 роки тому

    The 205 and 106 rallye have always been underappreciated. I'm pretty sure you can count the number of 205 rallyes with your hands given the rust problem
    Boys love the 205 GTi, real men love the 205 Rallye

  • @cariusx
    @cariusx 3 роки тому +8

    The 106 looks so good compared to that Yaris!

    • @jubjub.
      @jubjub. 3 роки тому

      I love the yaris but I gotta agree with ya

  • @taxus750
    @taxus750 3 роки тому

    A long while ago I once drove a rented base model 106 (XN?) in France. It wasn't fast by any measure, but it was a bloody riot to drive. I wish modern small cars were half as much fun as a 106.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому

      Totally agree!! Thanks for watching taxus!

  • @fasthracing
    @fasthracing 3 роки тому +2

    Was at Oulton Park on Wednesday in my tuned MK& Fiesta ST. There were 2 Yaris's there. (Both white) I can confirm they are weapons!

    • @haydensupra
      @haydensupra 3 роки тому

      anything is a weapon compared to a fiesta st to be honest lol

    • @fasthracing
      @fasthracing 3 роки тому

      @@haydensupra What do you drive big boy?

    • @haydensupra
      @haydensupra 3 роки тому

      @@fasthracing high boost rotrex supercharged 306 gti6 fully stripped 420hp

    • @fasthracing
      @fasthracing 3 роки тому +1

      @@haydensupra oooooooooooooooooooooooooh

  • @Thireen
    @Thireen 3 роки тому +4

    Sack the Nankang NS-2R Tyres off & the Peugeot & it would do even better.

  • @colinmorand129
    @colinmorand129 3 роки тому

    Love my celica Gt - twin cam engine with a cable to the throttle ! 180bhp great fun

  • @CastleAdam
    @CastleAdam 3 роки тому +5

    “Hmmm .... this apple is ‘lacking’ when it comes to the pear taste. This pear is ‘lacking’ when it comes to the apple taste”. Oh dear. I’m SO confused!

    • @pjay3028
      @pjay3028 3 роки тому +1

      The problem is that everyone these days seems to rate pure speed ahead of driving enjoyment and manufacturers are all chasing the same goal. So, to assess the actual enjoyment of driving modern cars, you have no choice but to test them against older cars. This is therefore a completely valid comparison and I for one very much appreciate it.

    • @CastleAdam
      @CastleAdam 3 роки тому

      @@pjay3028 I choose two of your own words in reply: It’s a ‘valid problem’ to compare. It made me laugh when Top Gear (in a more extreme case)
      compared a fighter jet with a car!

  • @joostwerkhoven3136
    @joostwerkhoven3136 3 роки тому +1

    So, I'm from the Netherlands. And the Peugeot's license plate has the word "kut" on it, which basically means "cunt" around here. So if he ever went to the Netherlands, you can tell him why people laughed at his car.

  • @Rosemeyer78
    @Rosemeyer78 3 роки тому

    No modern car will ever be comparable with the sensations of a classic one, for better or for worse.
    One thing is certain, if thirty years ago you would have told me that in 2020 a small 1270kg sports car is considered light, I would have thought you crazy!
    Anyway, a praise to the GR that as far as possible, makes us go back at least 15-20 years.

  • @billywhizz1984
    @billywhizz1984 3 роки тому

    My 1993 VW Polo G40 supercharged had the same feel. No power anything and overpowered at 123 BHP but what a hoot!

  • @stephenpeacock2627
    @stephenpeacock2627 3 роки тому +1

    Agreed the Yaris gr would be best on a short twisty track. It’s not bad on the Nurburgring with a respectable 8 min 15 secs.

  • @paulp96275
    @paulp96275 3 роки тому

    Fantastic review pug please Yaris nice but no I see Eric Carlson was on your tail in the 96 thanks 👍👨🏻‍🏭

  • @jobeppe
    @jobeppe 3 роки тому

    Maybe I'm getting older (I'm 39 now) but one thing I do not like about modern cars is the silence in the cabin.. I hate to not hear anything from the outside world, and from the engine. I am a professional mechanic, I work on cars, so I can test drive new cars almost everyday. They are fast, comfortable for sure, but... I own a 1994 Autobianchi Y10 and a 1999 Honda Civic Ej9 and to be honest, I wouldn't change them for ANY modern car. I love the Y10, no power steering, no insulation, nothing, but it is FUN!! Every time I drive it, even if it is noisy, vibrating, rattly, it is AWESOME! Fun fun fun every time, puts a smile on my face even at 50 km/h on a twisty road. The Civic is a little bit more refined, but still a fun car to drive. I drove many top end cars, Maseratis, Porsches (I worked in a Porsche garage) Audis, etc.. but.. I still prefere my small slow little fun cars. The Peugeot 106 rally was one of my dream cars as a teenager, maybe I'll find one in the future to add to my garage.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому

      Agree on the silence .. but that’s just on the bits where you’re covering miles and getting from A to B!!

  • @jimmygorissen5491
    @jimmygorissen5491 2 роки тому

    Although being 46, my 12yo brain couldn´t help but giggle noticing the pugs numberplate, which in Dutch roughly translates to R873FANNY.
    On topic: awesome peugeot 106 Rallye!

  • @randomd6r
    @randomd6r 3 роки тому

    I think you might prefer the recent Yaris GRMN to the GR. 1.8l 4 cylinder supercharged (similar to Elise/Exige engines), so the throttle response should be more immediate. Brakes probably still over servoed though.
    I bought a Swift Sport 1.6 because I wanted responsiveness over performance. It's still not as responsive as my old Rover 200vi. The Clio 172/182/200 represents the decade in between well.

  • @ryanmccormick2150
    @ryanmccormick2150 3 роки тому +4

    My mate has a GR yaris and I absolutely love it!...... very pricey tho🤑. Great video Jack 👍

  • @gregrobins5615
    @gregrobins5615 Рік тому

    Peugeot, still engineered to be enjoyed ! Oh, what a feeling !

  • @christineayres5339
    @christineayres5339 3 роки тому

    Ive got an ancient Mitsubishi colt that has a tiny 1.1 litre 3 cylinder engine but it is nippy for what it is 11 secs to 60mph and downhill in the red zone it hit 120mph verified on GPS only problem was the radiator exploded after that so had to change it lol but 3 cylinders i say are more fun to drive , very revvy and light too

  • @bakedbeanzontoast9078
    @bakedbeanzontoast9078 3 роки тому

    Tbh Jack I'd rather have the Pug, I remember when they came out back in the day, great little cars.👍🇬🇧

  • @pjay3028
    @pjay3028 3 роки тому +3

    I'd be really interested in your take on a Toyota GT86. I do wonder whether that is going to have the best chance, of any new car, to provide the kind of enjoyment that some of us seem to prefer?

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 роки тому +1

      Would love to try one at some point.. not had a chance yet!

    • @johnmonogios9173
      @johnmonogios9173 3 роки тому

      You mean the Subaru gt86, or the new BMW Supra? I wonder....
      It is the end of Toyota.

    • @confounded_feline
      @confounded_feline 3 роки тому

      @@johnmonogios9173 Clearly not when they pulled the Yaris out of the hat after those collabs.

    • @johnmonogios9173
      @johnmonogios9173 3 роки тому

      @@confounded_feline I mean come on. Toyota’s last hope was the remake of Supra. That failed. Now they try with this Frankenstein. They will fail also because it is not Toyota. I always was Japan lover, especially Toyota. I would love to see a remake from Toyota , but in its own. Not by copying or taking parts and technology from others. I always hoped to see a remake of Celica Gt4. Always dreamed but nowadays it is only about money and not the passion of creating something that will stay. Everyone knows The old Supra, not because it is insane powerful, but because it was ahead of its time. Everyone remembers the Celica gt4 because it was an amazing car. A wrc car made for road drive. Even the First Yaris Tsport was a pocket rocket that had enough technology and research before it was released. Nowdays they prefer the easy way of collaborating and releasing new Frankenstein cars that are not what everyone thought. I don’t doubt it is a very fast car that is competing with bigger opponents. But it don’t have the passion or the character of a genuine Japanese car made by Toyota. Oh wait it is not Japanese anymore.
      That’s what I meant.
      Toyota have the tech and the knowledge to research a straight six for the new Supra. But no, they put a bmw motor inside. A car with Vanos and not VVT-I isn’t a Supra. That’s why I stopped driving “Japanese cars” . I like my cars to be genuine, not experiments of others.

    • @patrickbateman7122
      @patrickbateman7122 2 роки тому

      Hello, late reply but I owned a GT86 for 2 years. Just like this GRY for me another overhyped modern car. Don't get me wrong it had a good chassis although engine was turd. The problem is all modern cars are too sterile. I used to have a williams clio. That compared to the GT86 imo was night and day. The Williams was like a raw road going go kart. Million times more fun, used to make me piss myself with tears of joy 😂. Sadly something the gt86 could never do...
      Hope that helped lol

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd 3 роки тому

    I don’t see a Rally 106 even once a year roads. A black 306 DSport or similar passed me. Looked ace original black tinted taillights. Looked well in black. They drove well. Looked well. Hmmmmm. May need a 306 in my life.

  • @malcolmhardwick4258
    @malcolmhardwick4258 3 роки тому

    Thats a lovel Pug !