this is how cars should be reviewed, driven on the edge to find their strengths and weaknesses. Very interesting to see that washy-ness in the front end of the Yaris. LSD will make a big difference hopefully and bring it back into line. My biggest gripe with the Sti is when you're leaning on the car in a corner grabbing third gear cleanly is a bit of a struggle. The factory pitch-stop mount sucks!
"Hands off" moment was ace! Fantastic driving skills. Very smooth and calm compared to other testers/journos. Also enjoyed the technical commentry on whats happening with the car.
Il faudrait comparer la Subaru STI avec la version track de la Yaris et non avec la version premium je peux vous assurer au niveau efficacité c’est le jour et la nuit … l’essai a été fait avec la Mitsubishi Evo 8 .. c’est la Yaris qui arrive en tête … donc avec la version track c’est la Yaris qui devrait être devant la sti …!!
Chris you are great presenter. As a past WRX Club member who has driven in anger on track your review brought a smile to my face. I don’t think people m (those who have never driven the 6 speed) realise how good an STI 6 speed is to fling around. Keep up the great work!
If you tested the circuit edition of the Yaris which comes with two limited slip differentials and much better track focused rubber, I'm sure it would have taken the STI.
you mean The GR Rallye? I think Subaru has a Track model up from the STI also.?. I think this was a great and fair apprasal and got down to a "single run", what would best out of three have looked like? and also looking at the wheel cam, there were a few millisecond hiccups with GR. Thats why you have a comparison, if STI handles better it will be reflected in the times.
For track performance I'd go with the lighter car. Suspension and tires are relatively basic upgrades, weightloss upgrades tend to either be expensive or require ergonomic compromises like buying carbon/titanium parts or removing creature comforts like sound deadening.
What do you mean by Rally package on the Subaru? And why shouldn't the GR Yaris complete with the STI? It has a better power to weight ratio and it's 6 years newer and the Impreza was still quicker.
@@wasdwasdwwasd Sorry, I didn't think I needed to bother to check to see if the WRX STI tag on the car actually meant something. Furthermore, the GR Yaris has a 3 cylinder engine and is not even in the same class as this Subaru. Do you think power to weight means something when the other car has more engine cylinders? Wake up.
Suspect the GR Yaris Rallye on this tight track would easily be faster than the STi. But kudos to the Subaru, looks and feels ancient, but still has some tricks up its sleeve.
This channel is getting better and better each time. Love the format, the camera work, and the screen layout for the fast laps like that dash view. Would love to see a camera angle for the footwork too. Keep up the good work @CarExpert !
Awesome work Chris! Thanks for the in depth track reviews :) I see a bunch of reviewers say "don't play with dccd you'll break it..." but never explain how / when to use it and what to do / not do. A video on that would be sweet!
I was ready to buy one myself but running costs were a bit crazy on the STi. Ended up ordering the GR instead but if money wasn’t an issue, I’d have both 😆
This is the best driving review and tips on how to drive the Sti. Most ppl reviewing this car don't know how to handle it. Great job!!! Subscribed...👍 Toyota and Subaru my two favourite brand of cars
@@chrisatkinson7431 Hi Chris. Good piloting here. I had a question on your preferred diff settings for play driving. I know you were trying to set a fast time here, but I’d love to hear what settings would you recommend for sliding around on tarmac. Such as linking slides, donuts, etc. For donuts, I have found that "Auto-" works well because the diff is more open initially to help the car kick out but then locks up to help pull the front end around after you break traction. For drifting, I've been using full open or 1click up. (Dry tarmac). Stock power and sticky tires. If it's wet or slick I tighten up the diff more. I'd love to hear what you use! Cheers
Great review Chris, and the perfect comparison unlike so many other reviewers comparing "hot" hatches to the GR Yaris. Would love to see a repeat comparison with the Rallye edition.
This only makes me appreciate how much ahead of the game the old STI and the evo9 were. In my opinion the subie had, and still has understear, I believe that the yaris is a good car, but can't see it coming ahead of the competition, if the sales are low I don't think it will be around for a long time. If you want to point it in and out of corners, than jump in the EVO Thanks for the upload.
Love this format. I always learn so much from your reviews. Great job! That 300kg weigh difference seems huge but the STI overcomes it for the win. The sound of the STI is also quite a lovely thing
5 star safety rating and stiffer chassis than Tesla in small overall crash test. You get more car with the sti. Wrx sti is like a family car on steroids, yaris gr is a shopping cart with turbo. I got a yaris a Subaru levorg. The stuff I can store in a yaris boot nearly fits under the floor in my Subaru.
@@chrisatkinson7431 The "Rally" version is much more a tracktool with better tyres than this standard version that is more for road fun. Maybe u just get the wrong GR Yaris for this
I think people write it off just because it hasn't changed much, but it is still pretty solid. But I want to see more from them as much as everyone else.
@@bombardierrecreationalprod1023 did you watch the video ? They didn’t Have rallye version yet ! Also the Subaru is 300 kilo heavier yet faster and it also has rubbish tyres stock. The rally Edition Yaris will be faster but not by much.
@@bombardierrecreationalprod1023 I don't disagree with the first point! That was the only version we had available at the time of filming, as I mentioned earlier. Just to help you a little, here is a list of Manufactures I have been paid to raced for over the past 20 years, so you can call me out every time I test one of them. 1. Suzuki 2. Mitsubishi 3. Subaru 4. Citroen 5. Proton 6. Ford 7. VW 8. Skoda 9. Mini Thanks for watching!
I love seeing you full send these stock vehicles to see what they are capable of right out of the factory. I have always been an sti fan boy, however the gr yaris looks like more fun.
@@chrisatkinson7431 haha i got a reply from a pro WRC driver .You made my day😀😀 .i have a question for you Chris i watched that documentary on discovery channel called "engineering the World rally" and in that series there was an underlying techincal issue with the Hawkeye STI you raced that was causing the handling to be unpredictable on the limit. Did you ever resolve the issue ? And what was its cause ? Was it the gearbox oil pump and the front LSD. I ask as i have the same car .Thanks for reading my messege😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏
Excellent review! Love the format for your performance test - ie. NO BS. And finally a performance review by someone that knows how to drive! Keep it coming.
Great video mate, I'm glad to see the STI still have it. Got one myself, a 2016 series.hyperblue, I can't drive like you but I enjoy it a lot. Glad to see what the EJ can do at the hands of a PRO.
Excellent coverage and opinion on the cars tested. Keep it up! I would like to see 1/4 mile drag, rolling race and 70mph braking of different car brands.
car owner will remember him in a while when he's doing his first service,.. dealer: unfortunately we have to replace the engine, tell me how you drive this car? dude: Well this is a long story
Atko has so much on the ball not just as a driver but as a communicator/ automotive analyst. Always a pleasure to see Chris flog the heck out of any car. Well done...and thank you!
Haha, that’s not me then! Ive locked the diffs in snow and gravel roads before. Otherwise I normally go manual and rear biased as much as the setting allows. I’ve got an MY16 STI with a 3 inch turbo back Q300 Invidia exhaust and a 3 map EcuTek tune, selectable via the Idrive system. The car really comes alive with that work done with a few subtle pops and bang theatrics in the higher boost S# setting as well. Otherwise it’s great just to cruise in and sit back and enjoy the rumble, old school :-)
Thanks Philip, the track was a little greasy and had a bit of dirt down in places, so it just kept the car a bit more in balance. Normally you would run them open, but it actually was quicker in this case with it locked, and I tried both. But I wouldn't drive around normally with it locked!
I'm surprised most people even knows what the settings do. 😅 My sti friends that own them don't even have pro tunes but ots after they spent 10 k on parts.
Chris, thanks for the demo of how to drive these cars how they've been built for. I'm a big Subaru fan since late 90's - early 2000, big Subaru WRT fan up until Subaru withdraw from WRC. I have had a few of them, Impreza WRX and WRX STi but now being a recent GR Yaris owner ("Track Pack" in France = "Rallye Edition" in Oz with the two LSD) I must say that I feel the Yaris to be equivalent to the Subaru (especially the 2007 STi), even maybe a little more nimble through the left-right or right-left tighter corners. The 2012 STi I had felt heavier and clumsier even though it had Suretrac diffs. Let's see the same comparison with the GR Yaris "Rallye Edition" ! Thanks again !
Most magazines and journalists have been killing STI for a long time, but fortunately a man with balls came to put things in order for the much-appreciated GR. Even the-TYPE-R is faster on the track. Only a driver like him Chris Atkinston can have true knowledge.
Wow....just wow, never thought this little runt would hold its own against the STI! I knew the VW GTI would be more it's competition, but it was mere milliseconds behind the GTI and just 1/8th off the STI. Definitely would love to see a review of the upgraded spec'd variant you mentioned towards the end.
Great content Atko. Good on ya! I’m sure you’re on it, but a rematch with the Rallye would be great to see. It would also be great to see a flying lap with a standard WRX (FA20) compared to the STI (EJ25). A kind of “new vs old” tech comparo. Having FA20 would be great content and interesting lap times to have on the board for when the MY22 WRX with FA24 is announced and can be tested.
@@CarExpertAus would be epic to see an FA20 WRX on track to compare them all, the WRX is very capable on track and would think it might match the STI with Chris at the wheel.
The FA20 is a good motor, especially if you get a JDM spec WRX or Levorg which use the 221kw version and match the WRX STI. I have the JDM Levorg myself, and really enjoy it. The 221kw engine matched to the CVT actually works well, and the 0-100 time is actually the same as the manual STI as well plus it gives surprisingly good economy the rest of the time when you are driving sensibly so it is very easy to live with as a daily driver.
I am so glad you are doing review Chris. Finally a real expert. I do have one question and anyone please enlighten me. I always thought that locking the diffs on smooth surfaces like tarmac was a no-no?? I was under the impression that was only advised to do on gravel or other loose surfaces?
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it! As long as you have some slip across the axles then it should be fine. You just don't want to be driving round on normal roads like this, or at a slower speed. It had been a little damp that morning, and the grip was a bit lower as well, thats why it worked better in that setting. Normally I would run it more open on tarmac.
I raised an eyebrow when he said he was in full lock in the Diff setting. I spat my cereal when i saw the dash. Holy! Imagine if you had a different driver for both cars and the STI not forcing the wheels to move at the same speed, the lap times would be very different! Please do this comparison again!
I have raced plenty of AWD cars on tarmac, with no centre diff, i.e. completely locked, unlike this, mostly in the World Rally Championship, and they worked just fine. Happy to hear you're explanation, but I tried all the settings in the conditions we had on the day, and that was the one we got the best time in.
@@chrisatkinson7431 For sure Chris! I meant no disrespect or questioning your incredible expertise, I just thought it might have been a limitation with the tires as full lock will force all 4 wheels to move at the same speed. Therefore you are forcing particularly the outer wheels during a corner to scrub in order to rotate to the same degree as the inner wheels. In smaller tracks like Canaan Motor Club in the NH where it is a more technical track, I personally noticed my STI's moving faster and cleaner at the Auto - or two/three notches away from lock in the DCCD system. I'm still a bit shell shocked that you personally responded, as I am a big fan of yours and all you have done, especially for the Subaru Rally Team. Keep wowing us, and keep making us more informed drivers, and I look forward to your next big ventures!
@@Mrluvshack No problem mate! So locking the DCCD is only locking front to back and you can still have separation side to side, across the front and rear separately. I actually went fully open to start as that is what I would normally expect to be quickest on faster tarmac, I also tried the auto as that is normally pretty good as well. But due to the lower grip on the day and the amount of corners that needed good traction on exit, I was able to gain more speed on the exit with it locked, relative to the loss on entry and mid corner. Exit is always king. Don't be afraid to experiment, I had the space and lack of grip to be able to make it work. But it won't work in every situation. There is always an element of compromise as well. Thanks for replying ATKO
Great video and great commentary. Do you think the STI would perform better on different tyres? The stock Yokohama Advan Sport seem pretty well spec'd but there could be more potential perhaps?
With this two car comparo format and with Chris Atkinson behind the wheel, these videos from Car Expert are very hard to beat. His comments on these cars as a former pro driver alone make it better quality than the vast majority of reviews coming from the other side of the planet whether it be America or UK. They don't have a clue what they're talking about, more often than not.
Holy heck you're the only car reviewer I've seen that can actually drive like these machines were built to drive. Keep throwing them around mate :)
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You'll get that from a former factory Subaru WRC driver haha. Super talented dude
Yup, actual professional rally driver. I followed him on Launch Control.
Thanks mate! Glad you enjoyed it as much as I did. haha
Instant subscribed! He's on point, no lingering moments. + That Bunta no hand steering.
I love how this guy is driving the shit out of these cars on track and his shifts are still smooth as the cream cheese on your morning bagel
Do you know who the driver is lol.
@@MrSCOOBY26 I don’t 😅 lol
@@KBP18he drove in WRC....
Let's see how this STI feels...maybe not the smartest choice of words 🤣
It doesn’t love the heat 😅
@@CarExpertAus I think he meant along the lines of a disease lol
@@CarExpertAus the heat being a burning sensation...
How I know you're younger. anyone over 30 thinks D instead of I....
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this is how cars should be reviewed, driven on the edge to find their strengths and weaknesses. Very interesting to see that washy-ness in the front end of the Yaris. LSD will make a big difference hopefully and bring it back into line. My biggest gripe with the Sti is when you're leaning on the car in a corner grabbing third gear cleanly is a bit of a struggle. The factory pitch-stop mount sucks!
Not very convenient Toyota
"Hands off" moment was ace! Fantastic driving skills. Very smooth and calm compared to other testers/journos. Also enjoyed the technical commentry on whats happening with the car.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback...
Excellent driving skills. Im having a tuf time mastering heel and toe technique, 69 retired, just having fun with my 2006 sti
Great review and comparison, nice to see someone that actually knows how to drive.
Thanks for watching!
Appreciate it mate!
Il faudrait comparer la Subaru STI avec la version track de la Yaris et non avec la version premium je peux vous assurer au niveau efficacité c’est le jour et la nuit … l’essai a été fait avec la Mitsubishi Evo 8 .. c’est la Yaris qui arrive en tête … donc avec la version track c’est la Yaris qui devrait être devant la sti …!!
Chris you are great presenter. As a past WRX Club member who has driven in anger on track your review brought a smile to my face. I don’t think people m (those who have never driven the 6 speed) realise how good an STI 6 speed is to fling around. Keep up the great work!
This is the first time on any UA-cam that I see someone who actually drives the car aggressively and really puts out the best of it.
because he is rally driver
If you tested the circuit edition of the Yaris which comes with two limited slip differentials and much better track focused rubber, I'm sure it would have taken the STI.
you mean The GR Rallye? I think Subaru has a Track model up from the STI also.?. I think this was a great and fair apprasal and got down to a "single run", what would best out of three have looked like? and also looking at the wheel cam, there were a few millisecond hiccups with GR. Thats why you have a comparison, if STI handles better it will be reflected in the times.
hes the best driver ive seen that drives the stock sti the right way
Exactly. Never seen a car journo from anywhere else that drives it exactly the way it should be driven like he does here.
Y'all don't know Chris? He's a freaking subaru factory rally driver 🔥
@@enukapasan my mind has been completely blown seeing all the people who don't know who Chris is😂
@@lilsubievert do u watch Subaru's launch control series?
@@enukapasan of course I do! Atko is the man!
For track performance I'd go with the lighter car. Suspension and tires are relatively basic upgrades, weightloss upgrades tend to either be expensive or require ergonomic compromises like buying carbon/titanium parts or removing creature comforts like sound deadening.
The yaris has almost as much power and 300 lbs less. Also the engine will likely last longer than that archaic heap EJ25
@@derekgardin1512 KILOGRAMS, that's 660 pounds!
Your logic is flawless.
Tires aren't even an upgrade, they're a consumable. Testing cars with different tires when the same tire is available is lazy bullshit.
I agree with this. I'm facing the same issue right now trying to lose some weight on my GR STi 😔
Big thumbs on the format. It seems the Impreza's still got it.
Thank you!
Thanks for that! More to come. To be honest, it surprised me as well.
Uhh, you compared a car with a rally package to a car without one on track. So... no, the Impreza don't still got it.
What do you mean by Rally package on the Subaru? And why shouldn't the GR Yaris complete with the STI? It has a better power to weight ratio and it's 6 years newer and the Impreza was still quicker.
@@wasdwasdwwasd Sorry, I didn't think I needed to bother to check to see if the WRX STI tag on the car actually meant something. Furthermore, the GR Yaris has a 3 cylinder engine and is not even in the same class as this Subaru. Do you think power to weight means something when the other car has more engine cylinders? Wake up.
I’m loving this bloke. Massive thumbs up👍
Paul to do the everyday side and Atko in the hot seat
Atko is a legend!
Thanks mate, great to hear.
@@chrisatkinson7431 Chris can you get your hands on a Civic Type R before the new model comes? Can’t wait to see Electric hand brake in action😂
Apparently hes the only legit car performance reviewer on track in the whole world on street cars you would trust !!!
I've never seen someone talk so casually pushing a car so hard
you didn't see so much video on internet do you? :D
@@r.s.overland6134 no u :D
@@sepg5084 i whish. But before you were born ready saw too much 😅
He's a former WRC driver, he is used to being an inch of getting killed hitting a tree or falling off a cliff!
@@MrYoumitube Yeah driving around a standard track for him full speed is like us driving down a straight road with no traffic.
2:57 this made me chuckle and immediately click like
Bunta mode
Hands off the wheel mid slide is so phenomenal.....idk if people realize how wild that is.
This is EXACTLY how you conduct a performance car review
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This is my favorite WRX video ever
Suspect the GR Yaris Rallye on this tight track would easily be faster than the STi. But kudos to the Subaru, looks and feels ancient, but still has some tricks up its sleeve.
At least 2/3 second less then the standard GR
@@sonofdemigod yeah and the STi looks like shit on wheels
@@ilovechocolatebutihategrapes nop
Too bad this generation of the STI didn't come with a Spec C variant.
Imprezas are built for dirt/snow, that's why they come with so much understeer. With the right suspension mods tho it becomes a proper track car.
This channel is getting better and better each time. Love the format, the camera work, and the screen layout for the fast laps like that dash view. Would love to see a camera angle for the footwork too. Keep up the good work @CarExpert !
Thanks a lot! :)
@@CarExpertAus foot cam is always a good choice!
Good comparison. The STi still punching but in rally the GR is dominating.
Factory street cars don't even resemble WRC cars.
Search up Subaru rally team USA. They are dominating in their class
imagine u got a dad driving, talking casual like this while sliding all the way to your school.
I’m that type of dad ..
Bunta moment
@@josevalarezo2987 you wish
This guy can drive.!!! So glad to see a real driver on UA-cam. Awesome vidz
Thanks Kenny!!!
Amazing video. I loved hearing feedback on both cars from an actual race driver!
Thanks for that! Appreciate it
Awesome work Chris! Thanks for the in depth track reviews :)
I see a bunch of reviewers say "don't play with dccd you'll break it..." but never explain how / when to use it and what to do / not do. A video on that would be sweet!
So happy to see Chris doing car reviews!
Both great cars but I'm glad I bought the STi.. it's a great daily driver with the family onboard and an absolute hoot in the hills :)
I was ready to buy one myself but running costs were a bit crazy on the STi. Ended up ordering the GR instead but if money wasn’t an issue, I’d have both 😆
@@Agent.Michael_Scarn gimme one if you get bored
@@Agent.Michael_Scarnin my experience “rally” toyotas tend to be a lot less reliable than, say, a 2zz
This is the best driving review and tips on how to drive the Sti. Most ppl reviewing this car don't know how to handle it.
Great job!!! Subscribed...👍
Toyota and Subaru my two favourite brand of cars
Thanks mate, I agree with that!
@@chrisatkinson7431 Hi Chris. Good piloting here. I had a question on your preferred diff settings for play driving. I know you were trying to set a fast time here, but I’d love to hear what settings would you recommend for sliding around on tarmac. Such as linking slides, donuts, etc.
For donuts, I have found that "Auto-" works well because the diff is more open initially to help the car kick out but then locks up to help pull the front end around after you break traction.
For drifting, I've been using full open or 1click up. (Dry tarmac). Stock power and sticky tires. If it's wet or slick I tighten up the diff more.
I'd love to hear what you use! Cheers
When are we seeing the fair comparison? 'Toyota GR Yaris Rallye v Subaru Impreza WRX STI '. wanted so long that the STi left the chat...
Great review Chris, and the perfect comparison unlike so many other reviewers comparing "hot" hatches to the GR Yaris. Would love to see a repeat comparison with the Rallye edition.
Thanks Paul, yep we need to do this!
@@chrisatkinson7431 yes please.
Mate no fluff and straight into it. Love it
Can't wait to see the STi vs Rallye edition!
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Would be a fairer comparison for 'bang for buck'
Yes... We need to do this
Rallye will be quicker by quite a margin,there's a reason no one as really bought anything other than the Circuit pack GR here in the UK.
@@layne4376 3.4 seconds faster over a short 1.4km course is one example of a Circuit pack or 'Rallye' over a standard gr Yaris.
Good to see an honest review. Most of the media in the UK have automatically decided the Yaris is amazing and the STI is crap
Yeah but the STI has really fallen behind with interior styling and imo exterior aswell. They just dont look like the rally monster they used to.
I mean the yaris is cheaper and is more reliable
You mean Evo magazine?
This only makes me appreciate how much ahead of the game the old STI and the evo9 were. In my opinion the subie had, and still has understear, I believe that the yaris is a good car, but can't see it coming ahead of the competition, if the sales are low I don't think it will be around for a long time. If you want to point it in and out of corners, than jump in the EVO
Thanks for the upload.
You can adjust the center diff and make the STI more rear biased. Trust me it doesn't understeer then.
I love sti ❤️
Love this format. I always learn so much from your reviews. Great job! That 300kg weigh difference seems huge but the STI overcomes it for the win. The sound of the STI is also quite a lovely thing
Thanks mate, I really thought the weight advantage would really push it in the Yaris's favour.
5 star safety rating and stiffer chassis than Tesla in small overall crash test. You get more car with the sti. Wrx sti is like a family car on steroids, yaris gr is a shopping cart with turbo. I got a yaris a Subaru levorg. The stuff I can store in a yaris boot nearly fits under the floor in my Subaru.
@@chrisatkinson7431 The "Rally" version is much more a tracktool with better tyres than this standard version that is more for road fun. Maybe u just get the wrong GR Yaris for this
No lsd in the yaris?? Blasphemy
@@thor_4017 get a focus rs before a crappy slow sti
The STi is doing well given it's a pretty old car now...
Agreed!
I think people write it off just because it hasn't changed much, but it is still pretty solid. But I want to see more from them as much as everyone else.
LSD is a great start!
@@bombardierrecreationalprod1023 did you watch the video ? They didn’t
Have rallye version yet ! Also the Subaru is 300 kilo heavier yet faster and it also has rubbish tyres stock. The rally
Edition Yaris will be faster but not by much.
@@bombardierrecreationalprod1023 I don't disagree with the first point! That was the only version we had available at the time of filming, as I mentioned earlier.
Just to help you a little, here is a list of Manufactures I have been paid to raced for over the past 20 years, so you can call me out every time I test one of them.
1. Suzuki
2. Mitsubishi
3. Subaru
4. Citroen
5. Proton
6. Ford
7. VW
8. Skoda
9. Mini
Thanks for watching!
I love seeing you full send these stock vehicles to see what they are capable of right out of the factory. I have always been an sti fan boy, however the gr yaris looks like more fun.
Amazing video great to see the technical insights from a professional rally driver
Thanks for watching!
Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback.
@@chrisatkinson7431 haha i got a reply from a pro WRC driver .You made my day😀😀 .i have a question for you Chris i watched that documentary on discovery channel called "engineering the World rally" and in that series there was an underlying techincal issue with the Hawkeye STI you raced that was causing the handling to be unpredictable on the limit. Did you ever resolve the issue ? And what was its cause ? Was it the gearbox oil pump and the front LSD. I ask as i have the same car .Thanks for reading my messege😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏
driving these hows how they were meant to be driven, great vid
Excellent review! Love the format for your performance test - ie. NO BS. And finally a performance review by someone that knows how to drive! Keep it coming.
Great video mate, I'm glad to see the STI still have it.
Got one myself, a 2016 series.hyperblue, I can't drive like you but I enjoy it a lot.
Glad to see what the EJ can do at the hands of a PRO.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Sti.. rubbish car. Golf r craps all over it
Best technical dynamic reviews going!
Excellent coverage and opinion on the cars tested. Keep it up! I would like to see 1/4 mile drag, rolling race and 70mph braking of different car brands.
This guy pulling the e brake drifting the corner and taking his hands off the wheel 😂 I love it
Being in North America, the STI still remains the only pick. Wish I could test drive the GR Yaris however
Great viewing and great to see you still got Subaru close to your heart
The STI always turns heads coming down the road.
Especially the 90's models.
Nicely done Chris.. and not one mention of litres per 100 kms!! Awesome..!
Haha, it was not great, that's all I know!
8000rpm over rev on YaGR lap lol
A couple close shaves on the sti one too
Redline is just a suggestion lol
car owner will remember him in a while when he's doing his first service,..
dealer: unfortunately we have to replace the engine, tell me how you drive this car?
dude: Well this is a long story
He definitely damaged the engine on the 4-3 shift at the beginning of the hot lap
I miss seeing Atko and the whole team in rallycross sports and actions. Didn't know he's now a part of a car review show. Way to go Atko!
In the hotlap, the definitely looked more loose. The WRX is just so stable, guess that saved the time it needed to win that head to head.
Yeah Yaris needs coilovers and that stabilises it massively
I like the driver's review and driving. Thumbs up for coolness
Love the new format :)
Thank you!
Thanks Nick, great to hear.
Love this format, and what a driver
Thanks mate!
The Yaris GS is a new kind of animal! I hope Toyota brings more to the table and please bring them to America!!!!!!
This is guy can drive also gives a good honest fair review on both cars
Subaru rules, the look , handling, sound, I own a Subaru XV and I love it , runs on all kind of roads as a king
you mean XT?
@@alexreche9710
No ,XV , crosstrek
When I saw that downshift into 8k on the 3 cylinder - "oh my god"
Mental mate!
Excellent review!!
I own a 2017 STI, taken mine on track a few times but nowhere near as good as how you push it, enjoyed your video! 🤙🏽
Atko has so much on the ball not just as a driver but as a communicator/ automotive analyst. Always a pleasure to see Chris flog the heck out of any car. Well done...and thank you!
Great vid. I didn’t think you were supposed to put the STI diffs on “lock” on tarmac though?
Rally drivers are the exception to the rule.
Haha, that’s not me then! Ive locked the diffs in snow and gravel roads before. Otherwise I normally go manual and rear biased as much as the setting allows. I’ve got an MY16 STI with a 3 inch turbo back Q300 Invidia exhaust and a 3 map EcuTek tune, selectable via the Idrive system. The car really comes alive with that work done with a few subtle pops and bang theatrics in the higher boost S# setting as well. Otherwise it’s great just to cruise in and sit back and enjoy the rumble, old school :-)
Thanks Philip, the track was a little greasy and had a bit of dirt down in places, so it just kept the car a bit more in balance. Normally you would run them open, but it actually was quicker in this case with it locked, and I tried both. But I wouldn't drive around normally with it locked!
@@philiphutton9422 The Auto mode actually works pretty well, and I use this when doing donuts, hahaha
I'm surprised most people even knows what the settings do. 😅 My sti friends that own them don't even have pro tunes but ots after they spent 10 k on parts.
the first time i saw this channel, the way he drives is super amazing i did remember chris harris style of reviewing but maybe better wow! subscribe
Chris, thanks for the demo of how to drive these cars how they've been built for. I'm a big Subaru fan since late 90's - early 2000, big Subaru WRT fan up until Subaru withdraw from WRC. I have had a few of them, Impreza WRX and WRX STi but now being a recent GR Yaris owner ("Track Pack" in France = "Rallye Edition" in Oz with the two LSD) I must say that I feel the Yaris to be equivalent to the Subaru (especially the 2007 STi), even maybe a little more nimble through the left-right or right-left tighter corners. The 2012 STi I had felt heavier and clumsier even though it had Suretrac diffs.
Let's see the same comparison with the GR Yaris "Rallye Edition" ! Thanks again !
When I see Atko back in a Subaru I know it’s going to be a good video!
Most magazines and journalists have been killing STI for a long time, but fortunately a man with balls came to put things in order for the much-appreciated GR. Even the-TYPE-R is faster on the track. Only a driver like him Chris Atkinston can have true knowledge.
Thanks for the feedback mate, most people don't know how to get the most out of an STI and just overdrive them.
Maybe the best car reviewer on UA-cam. Great skills as a driver and clear descriptions of what the car is doing devoid of hype and BS.
Appreciate that mate.... Just starting out in this game!
Sti looks the better car to me
Would rather have that than an wee tin can
Haha yes. The Yaris looks like a washing machine with little wheels bolted on.
Now this is a proper fuckin review dude, better than any other UA-camr tbh
Would like yo see a GR Corolla instead of a Yaris tho
Love the new format, great video.
I had no idea you could get an AWD car to drift like that on asphalt, very impressive Atko!!!
😁 Atko = legend!
@@CarExpertAus agreed!
Thanks Toby, you just got to commit.. nearly anything will drift! haha
Geez I'm glad you have a former WRC driver, they are used to being 1inch of tragedy hitting a tree or falling off a cliff.
Hearing the words, “Raceway” and “Yaris” in the same sentence made me laugh. 😂
Just subscribed. Great to see tests by a top competition driver.
We have plenty of other tests by Atko on the channel and more to come!
Great video, loving the comparisons and prodiction quality!
Thank you!
Thanks mate!
Happy to see you put the sti in full lock. I don’t see that as often as I’d like.
The Yaris would have been better with Track Pack !!
I agree!
3 seconds quicker !!
This man's car reviews makes me wanna go track my car
Wow....just wow, never thought this little runt would hold its own against the STI! I knew the VW GTI would be more it's competition, but it was mere milliseconds behind the GTI and just 1/8th off the STI. Definitely would love to see a review of the upgraded spec'd variant you mentioned towards the end.
The GTI doesn't have AWD.
Can’t wait to see more of these reviews completed by an amazing driver!!! Big fan!
Yaris is a little box of fun!
hot laps and comparisons between cars are always best
I'm japanese.I love EJ20 sound!
too bad this is the EJ25
Good to see an aussie car reviewer who has real professional racing experience. Good to hear real-world engine sounds too.
Thanks Alex!
Great content Atko. Good on ya!
I’m sure you’re on it, but a rematch with the Rallye would be great to see.
It would also be great to see a flying lap with a standard WRX (FA20) compared to the STI (EJ25). A kind of “new vs old” tech comparo.
Having FA20 would be great content and interesting lap times to have on the board for when the MY22 WRX with FA24 is announced and can be tested.
😁
Thanks mate! Love all the suggestions... I actually had the Yaris at the track on 2 separate days, and did identical times. The STI only had one go.
@@CarExpertAus would be epic to see an FA20 WRX on track to compare them all, the WRX is very capable on track and would think it might match the STI with Chris at the wheel.
The FA20 is a good motor, especially if you get a JDM spec WRX or Levorg which use the 221kw version and match the WRX STI.
I have the JDM Levorg myself, and really enjoy it. The 221kw engine matched to the CVT actually works well, and the 0-100 time is actually the same as the manual STI as well plus it gives surprisingly good economy the rest of the time when you are driving sensibly so it is very easy to live with as a daily driver.
I think I went for a drive with this guy at a WRX track day after i bought my WRX .... even with a full car he was an insane driver !
I am so glad you are doing review Chris. Finally a real expert. I do have one question and anyone please enlighten me. I always thought that locking the diffs on smooth surfaces like tarmac was a no-no?? I was under the impression that was only advised to do on gravel or other loose surfaces?
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it! As long as you have some slip across the axles then it should be fine. You just don't want to be driving round on normal roads like this, or at a slower speed. It had been a little damp that morning, and the grip was a bit lower as well, thats why it worked better in that setting. Normally I would run it more open on tarmac.
Awesome driving. 👏👏👏👏
Anyone born before 2000 will really have appreciated this. And I hope many born after then as well.
this guy know how to drive tho😎
greetings from malaysia bro 🇲🇾
I love how you demonstrate the understeer
Why didn't you use the Track version of the GR Yaris? That version will beat the STI!
The Track Version hadn't been launched in Australia at the time of filming.
Would be interesting to see how the circuit pack compares. The pilot 4s alone and the limited slip differential should be a good for another second.
if you have paid more attention to the video, you won't have to post this question at all..
@@chrisatkinson7431 ok my bad☺️ Should have waited for them to release in that case!
I raised an eyebrow when he said he was in full lock in the Diff setting. I spat my cereal when i saw the dash. Holy! Imagine if you had a different driver for both cars and the STI not forcing the wheels to move at the same speed, the lap times would be very different! Please do this comparison again!
I have raced plenty of AWD cars on tarmac, with no centre diff, i.e. completely locked, unlike this, mostly in the World Rally Championship, and they worked just fine. Happy to hear you're explanation, but I tried all the settings in the conditions we had on the day, and that was the one we got the best time in.
@@chrisatkinson7431 For sure Chris! I meant no disrespect or questioning your incredible expertise, I just thought it might have been a limitation with the tires as full lock will force all 4 wheels to move at the same speed. Therefore you are forcing particularly the outer wheels during a corner to scrub in order to rotate to the same degree as the inner wheels. In smaller tracks like Canaan Motor Club in the NH where it is a more technical track, I personally noticed my STI's moving faster and cleaner at the Auto - or two/three notches away from lock in the DCCD system. I'm still a bit shell shocked that you personally responded, as I am a big fan of yours and all you have done, especially for the Subaru Rally Team. Keep wowing us, and keep making us more informed drivers, and I look forward to your next big ventures!
@@Mrluvshack No problem mate!
So locking the DCCD is only locking front to back and you can still have separation side to side, across the front and rear separately.
I actually went fully open to start as that is what I would normally expect to be quickest on faster tarmac, I also tried the auto as that is normally pretty good as well. But due to the lower grip on the day and the amount of corners that needed good traction on exit, I was able to gain more speed on the exit with it locked, relative to the loss on entry and mid corner. Exit is always king.
Don't be afraid to experiment, I had the space and lack of grip to be able to make it work. But it won't work in every situation. There is always an element of compromise as well.
Thanks for replying
ATKO
awesome test
Thanks!
Hope subaru reconsider about WRC return and produces homologated hot hatch cars. would be good.
Great video and great commentary. Do you think the STI would perform better on different tyres? The stock Yokohama Advan Sport seem pretty well spec'd but there could be more potential perhaps?
ANY car would perform on better tires.
For sure the Subaru could handle better rubber, would be great to compare them on identical specs.
Chris Atkinson doing car reviews? Final someone that actually knows how to drive. So glad I got your signature before you left Subaru Rallycross.
I would love to see how veloster N doing track with STI
Would love to
With this two car comparo format and with Chris Atkinson behind the wheel, these videos from Car Expert are very hard to beat. His comments on these cars as a former pro driver alone make it better quality than the vast majority of reviews coming from the other side of the planet whether it be America or UK. They don't have a clue what they're talking about, more often than not.
Imagine, the WRX STI would have less weight like the GC or GD. It would blow the GR Yaris away.
whats ur point? how about GR Yaris Fit 2.5L engine?
This is the kind of car reviewer that i am looking for. Now every car will be reviewed fairly 'cause he can put out every car's full potential👌