Steve Jobs' Wet Dream

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
  • Apple Computers
    UNCUT: / programmersarealsohuman
    Interview with an Apple Computers Historian in 2024 with Kai Lentit - aired on Part 4 © Who Is Technology 2024.
    best web scraping plattform - brightdata.com/gm
    shoutout to @kosmik.app
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 221

  • @carlosuresti4390
    @carlosuresti4390 3 місяці тому +156

    "Quinoa Coin Airdrop"

  • @TJ-vh2ps
    @TJ-vh2ps 3 місяці тому +128

    “Objects that float in the database…” Spoken like a true designer. 😂

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 3 місяці тому +14

      "Now let's the programmers slaves implement that!"

  • @AlexPollardChess
    @AlexPollardChess 3 місяці тому +121

    Love the pivot channel has taken. The interviewee becomes the interviewer. Thanks for the laughs!

  • @randomname3566
    @randomname3566 3 місяці тому +394

    "Let's not talk about windows, let's talk about serious products"

    • @wherami
      @wherami 3 місяці тому +7

      My favorite line

    • @AdamFiregate
      @AdamFiregate 3 місяці тому +4

      Yes, talk about doors and rooms. 😂

    • @Zaphod_
      @Zaphod_ 3 місяці тому +6

      incredibly based

    • @rarbiart
      @rarbiart 3 місяці тому +4

      that comment "not possible on windows" was "asking for derail": self inflicted damage

    • @XDarkGreyX
      @XDarkGreyX 3 місяці тому

      One guy stole the TV, one the DVD player. Or what was the quote Gates threw in Job's face during an interview?

  • @gabrielnilo6101
    @gabrielnilo6101 3 місяці тому +194

    Designer who doesn't know how to draw, studied philosophy and works in software development.
    I've never seen someone so diverse in the world of technology.

    • @notsojharedtroll23
      @notsojharedtroll23 3 місяці тому +12

      Very inclusive of him

    • @Jack-yl7cc
      @Jack-yl7cc 3 місяці тому +35

      It's way more common than you might think for a liberal arts major to find their way into IT. I'm sure many of them would do just about anything to make sure they never utter the phrase "Do you want fries with that".

    • @gabrielnilo6101
      @gabrielnilo6101 3 місяці тому +2

      @@notsojharedtroll23 Yeah, like... he looked in the mirror and said: You're hired.

    • @zacanger
      @zacanger 3 місяці тому +9

      Happens all the time, all you need is a rich family, or to be able to BS your way into an investment.

    • @MightyBrend
      @MightyBrend 3 місяці тому +7

      Most designers I work with can't draw. It's very common these days.
      Also, I'm a liberal arts major working in IT! Venti latte with caramel 😁

  • @lewesc
    @lewesc 3 місяці тому +57

    "But if you design it for Finance people it can be shittily designed"
    That hit home real bad... I blame the requirements.

    • @--cs3
      @--cs3 Місяць тому +2

      facts

    • @dmitriyrasskazov8858
      @dmitriyrasskazov8858 14 годин тому

      Thats true, smart people can find its way through cluttered interface or complicated series of action. If you do software for security guard its needs to look like a big red button that does what he thinks it needs to do.

  • @GSBarlev
    @GSBarlev 3 місяці тому +169

    This is the most *aggressively French* person I have ever seen. I have almost no idea what he's selling, but I wish him the best of luck.

  • @user-ip7gh3lp6x
    @user-ip7gh3lp6x 3 місяці тому +59

    Da Ali G Dhow and Between Two Ferns of tech.

    • @robrick9361
      @robrick9361 3 дні тому +1

      With a little bit of Philomena Cunk sprinkled in.

  • @stdmpa
    @stdmpa 3 місяці тому +168

    "Albert Epstein" 5:16

  • @radomane
    @radomane 3 місяці тому +20

    “And also the wheel, like having new interactions paradigms is something that I’m very interested in”
    This man is so willing to lie that he’s reinventing the wheel and calling it innovation. Pure gold

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 3 місяці тому

      There is that wheel in Inkscape... I never could integrate their interface!

  • @tshackelton
    @tshackelton 3 місяці тому +34

    In all seriousness, I really miss hypercard and I'm super happy someone is carrying the torch...

  • @Sam-cp6so
    @Sam-cp6so 3 місяці тому +27

    So glad Kai is back in the swing of making videos!

  • @user-ek2jc1xf3y
    @user-ek2jc1xf3y 3 місяці тому +45

    disappointed bc no nft metion

  • @Smoshfaaaaaaaaaaan
    @Smoshfaaaaaaaaaaan 3 місяці тому +2

    Loved the sequence at the end!
    Very enjoyable - thank you for being creative

  • @mf12811
    @mf12811 3 місяці тому +8

    These founder interviews are awesome! Still waiting for an "Interview with a ZFS enthusiast" though ;)

  • @sunfishr.terrible8913
    @sunfishr.terrible8913 3 місяці тому +16

    You snuck a bit of Switched on Bach into the background. Sweet.

    • @versacebroccoli7238
      @versacebroccoli7238 3 місяці тому +7

      Yo thanks for pointing that out. Wendy Carlos is an OG baller!

    • @androidwalle4932
      @androidwalle4932 3 місяці тому

      ​@@versacebroccoli7238
      Wow, good hearing!!! ❤

  • @jakeleventhal4175
    @jakeleventhal4175 3 місяці тому +5

    Bruno, but for developers

  • @king53_
    @king53_ 3 місяці тому +46

    "You studied Philosophy?"

  • @TheBswan
    @TheBswan 3 місяці тому +29

    Please let's not talk about Microsoft

  • @burlak3182
    @burlak3182 3 місяці тому +35

    What the hell is kosmik? I checked their website, still have no idea.

    • @randymi9334
      @randymi9334 3 місяці тому +1

      it's a way to use up vc money

    • @alexanderp7521
      @alexanderp7521 3 місяці тому +30

      You don't understand, it's like a deck of cards... it's a marvelous software 🤣

    • @zacanger
      @zacanger 3 місяці тому +14

      It looks like some kind of hypercard reinvention + a slimmed down desktop environment stuck in a web browser? I think?

    • @_Zaid
      @_Zaid 3 місяці тому

      It looks like FigJam, but when you click a link it opens an ?

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 3 місяці тому +1

      @@zacanger and that's the re-imagining of computing ? HUGE MEH

  • @noondlyt
    @noondlyt 3 місяці тому +2

    I enjoyed this way too much. Well done.

  • @tangentfox4677
    @tangentfox4677 3 місяці тому +3

    Okay, but I unironically love the memex, and want it to exist. Several things have tried, but none are quite there yet.

  • @lephtovermeet
    @lephtovermeet 3 місяці тому +4

    This guy is the Eric Andre of coder nerds

  • @timi707_1
    @timi707_1 3 місяці тому +5

    dang the computer chronicles deep cut

  • @thatryanp
    @thatryanp 3 місяці тому +5

    Yesss! They are bringing back HyperCard

  • @Babbili
    @Babbili 3 місяці тому +27

    7:05 how did you turn it into a clip from 1973 😅 🤯

  • @johnsmith1953x
    @johnsmith1953x 3 місяці тому +27

    HYPERTEXT !!

    • @metaphoricallyalive8109
      @metaphoricallyalive8109 3 місяці тому +7

      HYPERMEDIA!

    • @fus132
      @fus132 3 місяці тому +4

      HYPERDATA!!!

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 3 місяці тому +3

      All I wanted is hyper-meta-data, aka hypertext and semantic web, but all we get is shitty LLMs and "AI"

    • @crism8868
      @crism8868 3 місяці тому +4

      HYPERMEDIA AS THE ENGINE OF APPLICATION STATE

    • @radomane
      @radomane 3 місяці тому +3

      HYPERMEDIA SYSTEMS

  • @Alexander-by4uv
    @Alexander-by4uv 3 місяці тому +24

    This guy misses such thing as markdown (notion, obsidian etc) 😅

    • @GmailNexus
      @GmailNexus 2 місяці тому

      Or Logseq, also pretty great :)

  • @james3742
    @james3742 2 дні тому

    8:00 lol they web-scraping ad at the end

  • @xiaokourou
    @xiaokourou 3 місяці тому

    These keep getting better

  • @pugo7925
    @pugo7925 3 місяці тому +2

    "What I'm saying is very dumb" - a true philosopher

  • @tuxlu1761
    @tuxlu1761 3 місяці тому +4

    Dang you're (or where) in Paris ? Know that you have french fans around here!
    I hope to see other french startups interview.

  • @paulsaulpaul
    @paulsaulpaul 3 місяці тому +4

    I couldn't figure out what the product is or does.

  • @NESMASTER14
    @NESMASTER14 3 місяці тому +3

    That Stewart Cheifet nod at 1:20 lol

  • @denialzz
    @denialzz 3 місяці тому

    Bro your videos are all hilarious. Im glad you're branching out from your usual content, keep it up.

  • @nowayicommented1314
    @nowayicommented1314 3 місяці тому +4

    This is art.

  • @PlatFormerlyKno
    @PlatFormerlyKno 3 місяці тому +5

    fr tho where the quinoa coin my man i need it

  • @limbo3545
    @limbo3545 3 місяці тому +11

    Can we sell NFT's with it?

  • @mrjonnoma
    @mrjonnoma 2 місяці тому +1

    Comments on this really made my day! :)
    Anyone noticed Atari TT/Mega STE in the background .. It was good design for a case at a time.

  • @ishi450
    @ishi450 3 місяці тому +7

    The joke about finance people was spon on.

  • @Excalibur13
    @Excalibur13 3 місяці тому +1

    Now I'm Thinking Different.

  • @daddy7860
    @daddy7860 3 місяці тому +9

    Satire doesn't work with people who are too charismatic and serious at the same time. They just obliterate anything potentially awkward and make it smooth.

  • @alurma
    @alurma 3 місяці тому +12

    Oh the guy being interviewed actually knows stuff

  • @danielnagy6909
    @danielnagy6909 3 місяці тому +2

    Hope one day I will be interviewed by this genius🤞

  • @Ceelvain
    @Ceelvain 3 місяці тому +4

    Even after this interview, I still have no clue what he's doing with his startup.
    Actually, I'm not sure Kai really knows what he's doing either. 😅

    • @blockagecrew
      @blockagecrew 3 місяці тому +3

      Check out his UA-cam demo. Looks like Obsidian for artists, not the worst idea ever tbh.

  • @danielphil80
    @danielphil80 3 місяці тому +1

    6:03 Kai's look when Paul says "you can have a healthy revenue stream without getting people addicted to your product"

  • @nerdontheinternet
    @nerdontheinternet 3 місяці тому +8

    damn. I could be a creative person too.

    • @danielnagy6909
      @danielnagy6909 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes just dont limit yourself

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 3 місяці тому +1

      It's all about the narrative... and body language, and... relationships!

  • @fernandopinkman4423
    @fernandopinkman4423 17 днів тому

    Song name form the Northstar reference?

  • @grey5626
    @grey5626 3 місяці тому

    lmao.
    That Gary Kildall/Computer Chronicles clip was interesting insomuch as Doug Engelbart himself (in an interview with Robert X. Cringley) said something to the effect of: "We* had links too. But we just called them 'links'. There was nothing 'Hyper' about them."
    * [by which Doug meant NLS {oNLine System, first publicly demonstrated in 1968's "Mother of All Demos" which eventually became the basis for [DA]RPANET after J.C.R. Licklider helped get Engelbart's Augment group at SRI {Stanford Research Institute} funding}]

  • @deisum
    @deisum 3 місяці тому +1

    "Includes paid promotion" Kai trolling the algorithm.

    • @paulsaulpaul
      @paulsaulpaul 3 місяці тому +1

      Affiliate link in the description. The ad near the end of the video.

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu 3 місяці тому

    It’s quite an interesting App. I’m digging the vibe, man.

  • @encody
    @encody 3 місяці тому

    "Two thousand, one hundred, and *glance* thirty-five followers."

  • @maciej2320
    @maciej2320 3 місяці тому +21

    They are both imposter comedians, yes?

    • @kiryls1207
      @kiryls1207 3 місяці тому +11

      apparently paul rony is real and a cofounder of kosmik, an infinite white board to store stuff instead of the classic folder structure. i also was curious about this, because i thought this was a parody of some kind

    • @analogsamurai9576
      @analogsamurai9576 3 місяці тому +8

      @@kiryls1207 These aren't parodies, this guy is outsmarting SF it's wild

    • @kiryls1207
      @kiryls1207 3 місяці тому +1

      @@analogsamurai9576i now noticed and holy crap this dude's making some heavy hits. so glad i discovered him

    • @ThiagoVieira91
      @ThiagoVieira91 3 місяці тому +8

      Bro this guy from Kosmik should spend less time doing design and more doing performance engineering. Their website bricked my phone

    • @ckorp666
      @ckorp666 3 місяці тому +1

      @@analogsamurai9576 it shouldnt surprise u, unless u think tech ceos get where they are by being geniuses

  • @NotGarbageLoops
    @NotGarbageLoops 3 місяці тому

    I really want to get in on dat Quinoa Qoin goodness.

  • @mariobroselli3642
    @mariobroselli3642 2 місяці тому

    Great Job at the languages playlist but i noticed you forgot Ruby.

    • @kailentit
      @kailentit 2 місяці тому +2

      what is ruby?

    • @mariobroselli3642
      @mariobroselli3642 2 місяці тому

      @@kailentit 😅 Ruby the programming language that nowdays is even surpassed in adoption by the Scala language, at least in my parts. Well, you added perl which is about as popular as Ruby.

  • @spudboi007
    @spudboi007 3 місяці тому +4

    Dude got roasted

  • @TheRadischen
    @TheRadischen 3 місяці тому

    a history teacher

  • @GmailNexus
    @GmailNexus 2 місяці тому

    He's nailing the '78 Bill Atkinson look ✨

  • @kukuricapica
    @kukuricapica 2 місяці тому +1

    |Let's not talk about windows, let's talk about serious products" ROFL

  • @programorprogrammed
    @programorprogrammed 3 місяці тому +2

    I actually like this guy.

  • @metaphoricallyalive8109
    @metaphoricallyalive8109 3 місяці тому +1

    YAY! QUINUA COIN MENTIONED!!

  • @alsara2k
    @alsara2k 2 місяці тому

    All you're missing is a quote from Christoper Alexander or Alan Kay lmeow.

  • @patronspatron7681
    @patronspatron7681 3 місяці тому

    The best question is no question.
    😂

  • @albancabannes7963
    @albancabannes7963 3 місяці тому

    7:17 That was kind of a few steps away from death

  • @igstan
    @igstan 5 днів тому

    Did he just pull a Philomena Cunk in this one? 😂

  • @Gurzbujar
    @Gurzbujar 3 місяці тому

    no clue what's going on but *"im loving it"*

  • @gavr_sas
    @gavr_sas 2 місяці тому

    HYPERCARDS SMALLTALK LETSGO

  • @Alexander-Hatala
    @Alexander-Hatala 25 днів тому

    "Back to reality" looooool

  • @howwitty
    @howwitty 3 місяці тому +1

    I've always said real software should be super-marvelous.

  • @stacychandler6511
    @stacychandler6511 3 місяці тому +5

    Did he just say Albert Epstein?
    Sometimes I feel bad for the guys he interviews. Do you let them in on the joke at the end? Either way, great content as usual. I'd like to see a sequel of your interview with the Rust Dev

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 3 місяці тому

      You'd feel sorry for Pecksniff...

  • @anaisberens3243
    @anaisberens3243 День тому

    To be fair, philosophy includes things like mathematical logic (one of the most useful courses I took in undergrad, and I wasn't even a philosophy major lol).

  • @JC-hp7pc
    @JC-hp7pc 3 місяці тому +13

    “What I am saying is very dumb.”
    You could say that again.

  • @DaxSudo
    @DaxSudo 2 місяці тому

    I think I have nerd/comdey crush on the host. This is gold.

  • @paidosam
    @paidosam 2 місяці тому

    Where does he find these people?!?!?

  • @paultapping9510
    @paultapping9510 3 місяці тому +4

    Epstein and Mark Twain 😂😂😂😂

  • @tempacc9589
    @tempacc9589 3 місяці тому +2

    Albert Epstein 💀

  • @yxyk-fr
    @yxyk-fr 3 місяці тому

    There's a Raphael Mezrahi vibe there 😛

  • @kode4food
    @kode4food 10 днів тому

    The theme some from La Boum? Oh, no you didn't!

  • @MonoVendetaMario
    @MonoVendetaMario 3 місяці тому +3

    Lets talk more about your actual specialty: ""design""

  • @aquahood
    @aquahood 2 дні тому

    Ce cool il em les arts!

  • @Jagi125
    @Jagi125 3 місяці тому +2

    Let's not talk about Microsoft.

  • @analogsamurai9576
    @analogsamurai9576 3 місяці тому +3

    The future is truly terrifying now that I've seen this

  • @JuMPeRaBG
    @JuMPeRaBG 2 місяці тому

    8:00 - The best Web Unlocking Technology in the world

  • @user-qj7ku6wi3b
    @user-qj7ku6wi3b 3 місяці тому

    Let me know if this guys startup fails, we're hiring for a Principle Yapping Engineer where I work.

  • @AlchemyOfDeathBand
    @AlchemyOfDeathBand 2 місяці тому

    the Sacha Baron Cohen of tech.

  •  3 місяці тому

    AI generated chorus: ...dreams are married NTFs a different kind of reeeeeality...

  • @dmingod999
    @dmingod999 3 місяці тому +1

    what an ad... 😄 a lot of people probably think the ad for web-scraping is real... 😂

    • @paulsaulpaul
      @paulsaulpaul 3 місяці тому

      It is. His affiliate link is in the description. People that use Brighdata VPNs are endpoints for their webscapers.

    • @thecoredigital6625
      @thecoredigital6625 3 місяці тому +2

      It is a real ad, genius!

  • @user-bv7jc
    @user-bv7jc 3 місяці тому

    7:15 this is the funniest shit I've ever seen

  • @fixups6536
    @fixups6536 15 днів тому

    You got me. It's surreal... I can't even tell if it's real or not.

  • @oM477o
    @oM477o 3 місяці тому +1

    Figma balls

  • @ishaadass
    @ishaadass 3 місяці тому +1

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @simondungeon1218
    @simondungeon1218 2 місяці тому

    "Explain the product as if you are speaking to a 5 year old hyped about AI" - Today's tech scenario POV

  • @osbert
    @osbert 29 днів тому

    kosmik actually looks useful and like a nice idea... buuut intense mouse lag on the homepage before even downloading it? no. no thatnks.

  • @einargs
    @einargs 2 місяці тому

    Is this a parody or not? I mean, doing a proper hypertext system is really cool

  • @borisbosnjak4812
    @borisbosnjak4812 3 місяці тому

    I think I'm as confused as Kai... :P

  • @lysdexic9129
    @lysdexic9129 3 місяці тому +1

    emacs

  • @captmulch1
    @captmulch1 3 місяці тому +2

    He didn’t create Next, it was already Unix …

  • @setheliot1
    @setheliot1 Місяць тому

    "Steve Jobs was a poser... he didn't even write code" - an oldie, but a goodie: ua-cam.com/video/kXQE2uGnR_U/v-deo.html

  • @Vetrivel.Shanmugam
    @Vetrivel.Shanmugam 2 місяці тому

    Man. I thought this is a comedy video. Is this a real interview ?

  • @pixl_xip
    @pixl_xip 3 місяці тому +1

    Hello