A buddy film - the perfect pairing of old school woodworking and new school 3D printing. 3D printing makes the hard-to-do a snap, like fixing my tail vise so that it turns the right way. And I have no doubt the fix is strong enough and will last for many years to come. Watch how I build the workbench here: ua-cam.com/video/ulZf1GTcWlk/v-deo.html There will be a strong mix of 3D printing in my projects from now on and some of those are available to my supporters on Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=865843&ty=h The printer I'm using is the P1P model from #bambulab
I don't know why, after all the years of watching your videos, but I am still so impressed at your level of innovation. I don't generally watch videos with CNC, Laser Cutting or 3D printing because I don't posses those and can't afford them, but your 3D printing videos are highly entertaining due to your high level of innovation. Great work John!
If you do woodworking, you can afford a 3d printer or a laser. They all start cheap. But we know cheap tools may get you cheap results. Mind you. I don’t own festool as a woodworker. I have shifted my money to buying a house temp/ getting my garage up to level I prefer in many ways and not even woodworking. If I build something, it’s mostly with fence pickets and such. If I was really back into the space, I would figure out what I don’t know. The thing about mostly simple coding is, it’s not that different from woodworking. Do this and you get that. Bad result. Try it again just slightly different. The programming is what us older people learned in our youth, was called growing up. That’s exactly what it is. Just go cheap machines and wood. Or what ever you have. Use cardboard for laser for example.
This video is a mini dream come true for me. I've always wanted to see a traditional woodworking vice 3D printed. Another way to 3dp threads is to print them vertically with a hole in the middle, run a threaded rod through the print and clamp down on both ends with nuts. It puts the threads in constant compression and they become very strong as the layers won't split and the threads are very smooth.
What I think is the most amazing part, is you didn't opt to disassemble the entire vise, you were able to take out what you needed and replace it in a manner that left no evidence as to the update. Bravo!
I have always been impressed at the depth of John’s arsenal of ideas, techniques, different materials and tenacity. All these years and I am still learning new things. Such a treat to wake up to this video today.
3D Printing can be so incredibly useful for us woodworkers, and I’m so happy to see the ways you’re using it for! Also, looking forward to all the new things in the future that you will dream up. Thanks!
This time you’ve taught me something new. I learned something that I hadn’t paid attention to before that you’ve demonstrated quite well. The Dovetail splines! Now, Where’s my chisels and router?!?
Great work! I expected the usual printed-body, threaded-metal heat-insert combo, so I'm keen to see how the plastic threads hold up over time. I don't imagine it's easy to get (and install) heat inserts at that diameter 😅
Hey John! Just found your channel today, I love a good woodworking channel but seeing that you just got a 3d printer and will be exploring the intersection of those two mediums was an instant subscribe from me. Very excited to see what you do with this new tech!
This is inspiring stuff, John! Thank you so much for sharing these ideas and techniques. I really want to implement the use of my 3d printer into woodworking, even though I'm still in the early stages of even having something like a woodshop for myself. Your videos often prompt me to consider how I might customize my shop and tools to fit my needs.
You're putting your printer to good use I see, great vise! I created a 3d printed wagon vise a couple of years ago, coincidentally mine had a square reinforcement also, but mine was a 1/2" bar of aluminum. I did a video about it on here, and the link to download the files are in the description of that video.
John, I loving this cross over between woodworking and 3D printers. This coupled with your unique design approach is very engaging. For this project an update in 2 years or so would be great to look into how it went. For me I would be interested in how the lubrication affects the plastic as I know some combinations can cause plastics to swell. Keep up the great content.
great...now i have to design a 3d printable vice for my workbench. excelent engineering work john, seriously the blending of 3d printing / cnc with traditional woodwork is the future
John, I want to express my respect and thanks for all of your content/education. I watch and try to absorb your mindset. I am not a woodworker (millwright) but a homeowner who has to/wants to/needs to/told to, to do all the things. I have always gone against the grain (insert ADHD reference here) and connect with the way you attack the "norm". Its amazing to show what you can do with wood that most do with metal ( and sadly-cheaply plasticized in you know where...) I've bought your plans before with intent to follow and I didn't, but that's my deal. Your clever thinking smashes the typical mindset-- (punk rock). I don't think it's your preferred genre, but it's my nod to you. Thank you
The threads holding up will probably depend on the lubrication he uses. If the grease is compatible, so it doesn't break down the plastic chemically, and he keeps enough on there so it effectively reduces the friction, it should be fine. Another factor will be how hard he cranks down the vise. Too much stress will cause the threads to sheer over time, but his lead screw is a wide enough diameter that it should be able to handle it, as long as he uses JUST enough force to hold parts and not too much more than that. All-in-all, I'd predict that with proper usage, it should last several years, or even decades.
I mean, I use a 3d printer all the time and I would never think the print could be sturdy enough for the vice forces. But you learn something every day. Brilliant work John! 🎉
I was in disbelief during the whole video, just like I was with his 3D printed bandsaw video. But honestly, it shouldn't be that surprising. People make much more stressed parts 3D printed than what he's done here.
@@bakedbeings I think the threads were the thing I was the least worried about. Although, A larger ACME thread might be better than the "regular" style thread (whatever it's called) that he used. Over time, the threads will wear out, of course, but probably not for years, if he keeps the lead screw lubed and doesn't over-tighten.
@@SuperDavidEF True, I think they'll resist friction/wear for a good while. I was thinking of them breaking off/fracturing when tightened, due to the brittleness of printed plastic vs steel.
You know you can buy a left-hand threaded rod and nut right? I’ve 3-D printed quite a few threads, and they wear quickly and the plastic creeps under load. I’m not sure you’re going to see long-term success with the plastic. Hopefully I’m wrong…nice project anyway!
Plenty of Americans know the value of Robertson's screws. Philip's head screws are simply still standardized, which is hard to overcome, and even then we would probably switch to Torx screws.
It wasn't long ago. He did a video about changing out some of the wooden parts of his bandsaw with 3D printed parts. He said Matthias Wandel told him that it wouldn't work, and that's why he did it.
Mr. John, I think I speak for many of long time viewers and maybe for some of the newbies. There is a certain type of adhesive that you use that most do not. There was always a little bit of joy when you named that adhesive. You used that adhesive in this build in this video, but unfortunately, you never said those certain descriptive words. Such a small thing, but it makes the day brighter. But then again some folks say that I am a bit strange and they could be right. 😊
John, great video. I’m not sure if you are an engineer by trade, but you are in practice. It’s why I enjoy your channel so much. I do have some curiosity questions if you’re willing to share. What material did you use to print your parts and why? Obviously, the metal screw/mechanism is more durable. How do you think the 3d printed material will hold up overtime? lastly, why type of grease did you use? I know some plastics degrade overtime with exposure to certain lubricants. Thanks in advance for the time you take
In the future if you wanted to save the nut shape you could always thread the lead screw into the nut and then torch the lead screw until the nut is free.
John, Somebody is still having fun with their 3D printer…haha! Very nice upgrade. It would bother me also if it turned the wrong way. I’ve been thinking of adding a tail vice to my Bench. Where is your initial build video of that? Also, now that you have been playing with your 3D printer, It’s also something I’d like to have and start using. Which one might you suggest for someone on a budget? Thanks again for your Videos!!
Thanks, Mac! Details on the tail vise are in the full build video for the workbench. I'm far from an expert on 3D printers, but I think the A1 from Bambu would be a great one to start with from what I've seen.
Do you have plans for just that Vice? I would assume that it is included with the bench plans, but I am going to be building a bench/table, but already have drawings of what I want and was thinking about adding this and the "Quick Release Vice" to it.
Just realized I haven't seen one of your videos in a while. I searched for your channel and it looks like UA-cam has unsubcribed me from your channel, I have almost 2 years of content to watch....
I'm supeised at using the polyurethane adhesive with the plastic. For some reason I was expecting epoxy. Is it still working well in older projects or is it a new thing?
Now what I would have found more interesting is using the 3d printer to make a wood threaded replacement. That would mean printing a die and tap which would have been more useful in the long run.
How does it happen that you screw the member in counter-clockwise at 5:39, then "the next day", you screw in in clockwise at 5:59? Has this piece been re-made?
A buddy film - the perfect pairing of old school woodworking and new school 3D printing.
3D printing makes the hard-to-do a snap, like fixing my tail vise so that it turns the right way. And I have no doubt the fix is strong enough and will last for many years to come.
Watch how I build the workbench here:
ua-cam.com/video/ulZf1GTcWlk/v-deo.html
There will be a strong mix of 3D printing in my projects from now on and some of those are available to my supporters on Patreon:
www.patreon.com/user?u=865843&ty=h
The printer I'm using is the P1P model from #bambulab
Next time think about adding grease nipples and grease flow tubes so you can add fresh grease in the future with a bit more ease.
That moment when you realize that you can just print a new one with correction instead of having to kludge solutions.
I don't know why, after all the years of watching your videos, but I am still so impressed at your level of innovation. I don't generally watch videos with CNC, Laser Cutting or 3D printing because I don't posses those and can't afford them, but your 3D printing videos are highly entertaining due to your high level of innovation. Great work John!
Thanks :)
If you do woodworking, you can afford a 3d printer or a laser. They all start cheap. But we know cheap tools may get you cheap results. Mind you. I don’t own festool as a woodworker. I have shifted my money to buying a house temp/ getting my garage up to level I prefer in many ways and not even woodworking. If I build something, it’s mostly with fence pickets and such. If I was really back into the space, I would figure out what I don’t know. The thing about mostly simple coding is, it’s not that different from woodworking. Do this and you get that. Bad result. Try it again just slightly different. The programming is what us older people learned in our youth, was called growing up. That’s exactly what it is. Just go cheap machines and wood. Or what ever you have. Use cardboard for laser for example.
Printers are cheap now, dude.
Check your local library for a 3D printer, a lot of them have maker space things nowadays.
You really opening a new world for me about 3D printing and showing how useful it can be. Love it.
Neat seeing how you blend the woodworking and 3d printing, playing to the strengths of both.
I'm very much enjoying the fusion between woodworking and 3D printing. So many interesting possibilities!
I thought I got mentioned.
This video is a mini dream come true for me. I've always wanted to see a traditional woodworking vice 3D printed. Another way to 3dp threads is to print them vertically with a hole in the middle, run a threaded rod through the print and clamp down on both ends with nuts. It puts the threads in constant compression and they become very strong as the layers won't split and the threads are very smooth.
that would make treds were weak. you would strip them. you should always print ageints the load.
@@LordAnubis0909 you don't know what you're talking about.
Ok. Print as you like. But almost 10years of printing say i got some idea
If you stack layer to form the threads (printing vertically) they will break when force is applied, won't they?
@@omarc_br yes.
They will.
What I think is the most amazing part, is you didn't opt to disassemble the entire vise, you were able to take out what you needed and replace it in a manner that left no evidence as to the update. Bravo!
I have always been impressed at the depth of John’s arsenal of ideas, techniques, different materials and tenacity. All these years and I am still learning new things. Such a treat to wake up to this video today.
A trailer tongue jack's threaded rod is left-hand threaded and works perfectly, having Acme threads.
The wood/3D printed fusion ideas youve had have been fantastic to see, keeping woodworking content fresh!
Nice to see a seasoned maker using “new” technology. Fantastic job on your CNC build John.
John Heize getting a 3d printer is one of the best things to happen on youtube this year! Great ideas!
Great practical project John, it really shows the versatility of 3D printing in a wood shop.
The old school and new school is great. I think you're on to some fun here.
Yeah seeing stuff like dovetail splines used in place of bolts for connecting printed halves is pretty cool.
Loving these videos where you combine your woodworking skills with your 3D printing creativity.
Brilliant, John! That's fantastic! 😃
It's going to make things much easier for building vises!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Whoa! That's pretty neat! I love videos like this, people finding useful things around the home or shop to print and make life easier and cheaper! 💪
I LOVE the way you're combining woodworking and 3D printing. Keep it up!!!
I always thought you were the best. This video proves it. Congratulations.
3D Printing can be so incredibly useful for us woodworkers, and I’m so happy to see the ways you’re using it for! Also, looking forward to all the new things in the future that you will dream up. Thanks!
This time you’ve taught me something new. I learned something that I hadn’t paid attention to before that you’ve demonstrated quite well. The Dovetail splines! Now,
Where’s my chisels and router?!?
I am really liking the mixture of wood working and 3d printing.
Great job, it is amazing what can be made with a 3D printer now days,
Ah, I've been away from things for a few years.... Nice to see that John is still the best woodworker on UA-cam. Inventive, creative. Genius.
Great work! I expected the usual printed-body, threaded-metal heat-insert combo, so I'm keen to see how the plastic threads hold up over time. I don't imagine it's easy to get (and install) heat inserts at that diameter 😅
I love how the blue goes with the wood tones
Hey John! Just found your channel today, I love a good woodworking channel but seeing that you just got a 3d printer and will be exploring the intersection of those two mediums was an instant subscribe from me. Very excited to see what you do with this new tech!
Interesting to see wood and plastic combined. I can't say I don't like it. Excellent work actually.
Awesome. You will have to update us on how well everything wears over time. However, being able to just print a new part is super awesome!
Always keeping it interesting & impressive, John. 🔥
This is inspiring stuff, John!
Thank you so much for sharing these ideas and techniques. I really want to implement the use of my 3d printer into woodworking, even though I'm still in the early stages of even having something like a woodshop for myself. Your videos often prompt me to consider how I might customize my shop and tools to fit my needs.
FANTASTIC - John has his 4th *Tech Hat* firmly on -Master of Wood Electronics Audio and 3d Printing - 👍
You're putting your printer to good use I see, great vise! I created a 3d printed wagon vise a couple of years ago, coincidentally mine had a square reinforcement also, but mine was a 1/2" bar of aluminum. I did a video about it on here, and the link to download the files are in the description of that video.
I wouldn't have thought the 3d print would be strong enough but seems to do the trick!
Awesome Ideas and Awesome Execution. Your Engineering is Fantastic. Love Your Channel.
John ; ....all of your content....is always worth....waiting for.....!!!!!!!!!!!
John, I loving this cross over between woodworking and 3D printers. This coupled with your unique design approach is very engaging. For this project an update in 2 years or so would be great to look into how it went. For me I would be interested in how the lubrication affects the plastic as I know some combinations can cause plastics to swell. Keep up the great content.
Always innovative and interesting. Thanks John.
Another beautiful project! John, I'm only 68 but when I grow up, I wanna be like you!
i don't get what the problem was with the old vice...
great...now i have to design a 3d printable vice for my workbench. excelent engineering work john, seriously the blending of 3d printing / cnc with traditional woodwork is the future
John, I want to express my respect and thanks for all of your content/education. I watch and try to absorb your mindset. I am not a woodworker (millwright) but a homeowner who has to/wants to/needs to/told to, to do all the things. I have always gone against the grain (insert ADHD reference here) and connect with the way you attack the "norm". Its amazing to show what you can do with wood that most do with metal ( and sadly-cheaply plasticized in you know where...) I've bought your plans before with intent to follow and I didn't, but that's my deal. Your clever thinking smashes the typical mindset-- (punk rock). I don't think it's your preferred genre, but it's my nod to you. Thank you
Amazing John!
This is a really cool idea. I wonder how the threads will hold up over time?
The threads holding up will probably depend on the lubrication he uses. If the grease is compatible, so it doesn't break down the plastic chemically, and he keeps enough on there so it effectively reduces the friction, it should be fine. Another factor will be how hard he cranks down the vise. Too much stress will cause the threads to sheer over time, but his lead screw is a wide enough diameter that it should be able to handle it, as long as he uses JUST enough force to hold parts and not too much more than that. All-in-all, I'd predict that with proper usage, it should last several years, or even decades.
Appreciate the process, but I have to say, I like you're woodworking waaaaay more :D
I mean, I use a 3d printer all the time and I would never think the print could be sturdy enough for the vice forces. But you learn something every day. Brilliant work John! 🎉
I was in disbelief during the whole video, just like I was with his 3D printed bandsaw video. But honestly, it shouldn't be that surprising. People make much more stressed parts 3D printed than what he's done here.
I was mainly concerned with the threads - i'd have expected to more common printed body, threaded metal heat-insert combo.
@@bakedbeings I think the threads were the thing I was the least worried about. Although, A larger ACME thread might be better than the "regular" style thread (whatever it's called) that he used. Over time, the threads will wear out, of course, but probably not for years, if he keeps the lead screw lubed and doesn't over-tighten.
@@SuperDavidEF True, I think they'll resist friction/wear for a good while. I was thinking of them breaking off/fracturing when tightened, due to the brittleness of printed plastic vs steel.
I’m loving these new ideas!
Awesome build!
You're really getting good at 3D printing John. I like to see this kind of mesh between wood and plastic. - Chris
Amazing work. Thank you for sharing.
I'm really liking the 3D printer content John
Nice! I'm enjoying your 3D printing series very much.
Brilliant, as usual!
dang, man, you are just plain brilliant.
You know you can buy a left-hand threaded rod and nut right?
I’ve 3-D printed quite a few threads, and they wear quickly and the plastic creeps under load. I’m not sure you’re going to see long-term success with the plastic.
Hopefully I’m wrong…nice project anyway!
John you are really enjoying that 3-D printer of yours
At last!!! An American who has discovered how great square drive screws are, and I am not really surprised that its YOU!
Plenty of Americans know the value of Robertson's screws. Philip's head screws are simply still standardized, which is hard to overcome, and even then we would probably switch to Torx screws.
Please keep up the intermingling of 3d printing and woodworking !
Nice work John. Using my printers again to make door locks for my collection of Japanese slot machines so I don't have to use keys anymore.
I must have missed when John got a 3D printer, but oh boy we’re in for an explosion of creativity now! Very cool build.
It wasn't long ago. He did a video about changing out some of the wooden parts of his bandsaw with 3D printed parts. He said Matthias Wandel told him that it wouldn't work, and that's why he did it.
Better than a bought one and it looks like a fun build
Mr. John, I think I speak for many of long time viewers and maybe for some of the newbies. There is a certain type of adhesive that you use that most do not. There was always a little bit of joy when you named that adhesive. You used that adhesive in this build in this video, but unfortunately, you never said those certain descriptive words. Such a small thing, but it makes the day brighter. But then again some folks say that I am a bit strange and they could be right. 😊
9:20
:)
Oh, there it is. My day had been made complete. 😊 You, sir, are gentleman and an scholar
John, great video. I’m not sure if you are an engineer by trade, but you are in practice. It’s why I enjoy your channel so much. I do have some curiosity questions if you’re willing to share. What material did you use to print your parts and why? Obviously, the metal screw/mechanism is more durable. How do you think the 3d printed material will hold up overtime? lastly, why type of grease did you use? I know some plastics degrade overtime with exposure to certain lubricants. Thanks in advance for the time you take
Amazing!
In the future if you wanted to save the nut shape you could always thread the lead screw into the nut and then torch the lead screw until the nut is free.
I've wanted a 3d printer for years, and now I want one even more
John, Somebody is still having fun with their 3D printer…haha! Very nice upgrade. It would bother me also if it turned the wrong way. I’ve been thinking of adding a tail vice to my Bench. Where is your initial build video of that? Also, now that you have been playing with your 3D printer, It’s also something I’d like to have and start using. Which one might you suggest for someone on a budget? Thanks again for your Videos!!
Thanks, Mac! Details on the tail vise are in the full build video for the workbench. I'm far from an expert on 3D printers, but I think the A1 from Bambu would be a great one to start with from what I've seen.
Muy bien hecho, buen trabajo. Te felicito 👏👏😉
Amazing to see.
Love it!
Seems like 3d printing and woodworking go good together.
Nice! Prediction: You’ll remake the vise-handle.
I would. It looks too small.
Yes dude knows what’s up
Thanks for sharing.
Nice!
Another win !
Do you have plans for just that Vice? I would assume that it is included with the bench plans, but I am going to be building a bench/table, but already have drawings of what I want and was thinking about adding this and the "Quick Release Vice" to it.
Just realized I haven't seen one of your videos in a while. I searched for your channel and it looks like UA-cam has unsubcribed me from your channel, I have almost 2 years of content to watch....
Hows the freecad treating you? 3d printed clamps stl’s? Ot drawer slide stls?
According to my observations, the plastic after the 3D printer is quite fragile. Will it withstand repeated pinching?
Please add info on what type of plastic you are using for your prints.
Just use heat to soften an epoxy. In you case you could heat the rod (bolt) before screw it in
John, what type of filament are you using? Cheers from Australia.
What sort of filament are you using for these parts? PLA or something more robust?
I'm also interested in what filament you used please @john
I'm supeised at using the polyurethane adhesive with the plastic. For some reason I was expecting epoxy. Is it still working well in older projects or is it a new thing?
I always wondered why you did that. Is there no left hand threaded rod in the great white north?
muito bom, parabéns
cool videos. just curios why you just did not use a left handed threaded rod?
👍great video
It didn't take long for the 3d printer to become my most valuable tool in the shop.
Now what I would have found more interesting is using the 3d printer to make a wood threaded replacement. That would mean printing a die and tap which would have been more useful in the long run.
Cool.
How does it happen that you screw the member in counter-clockwise at 5:39, then "the next day", you screw in in clockwise at 5:59? Has this piece been re-made?
What material did you 3d print ?
Soon he’ll be 3D Printing his own BVD’s
Im all for fun projects and making stuff, but did you consider just getting reverse threaded all thread and nuts?
you are no fun at all.
@@KipdoesStuffYou didnt read my comment
3D printing in all its glory, I still prefer the surety of wood and metal.
I love the innovation, yet am skeptical of the durability of plastic screw threads. I hope your idea proves itself over a reasonably long time.
the vice will be used sparingly and the force on the threads will be for under a minute most uses. They will last the lifetime of the bench.
Just a heads-up, for "wearing" surfaces, you'll get more mileage out of PETG or better still Nylon (Polyamide) filament. ^_^
Did you know that 5 (of course 15 and 30 min is the same) min epoxy can easily be loosen by heating it ? :)
Drilling was faster, plus the break was more dramatic :)