Notorious RTX 4080 Graphics card Repair - Connectors are breaking like biscuits.
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Man... I love this guy. He's so "matter of fact" with his dry humor. He's just telling it how it is. He's legit and it's so good.
what is it made out of... biscuits?
Alex, that anti-glare light makes your videos exceptional and a pleasure to watch! Tons better than a lot of other videos out there.
From the customer description, it sounds like the card connector is pressing against the case side panel due to large card/cable connector and not enough case clearance. If they don't want to put card in proper sized case, there is a 90 and 180 degree adapter available so that power cable is connected at a different angle and should reduce the space requirements from the cable sticking out directly from the card.
Appreciate all your quality videos and hope that your clients appreciate the detailed work you provide. Hoping I never have a need for such repairs but know where I will go first if the time ever comes.
not the customers fault the card designs are the same size as computer cases nowadays, that being said he shouldn't be smashing into a small case.
Man just take the side panel off until you get a new case, don't smash things together. That's only for cable birds nests on the other side of the case (;
@@Tadders Easier said than done - some people have small children and or pets that need to be protected from bare components in an open PC case!!
@@zedds4335 So don't build until you have a proper case?
@@Tadders The case it goes in relies on forced airflow through the case. If I pop the side panel off the SSDs and the rest of the components on the board will overheat.
"Are you paying for the flux...?" Very funny 🤣 As usual, another beautiful repair.
I’m no expert but looks like the pins where snipped with flush cutters
I made a similar comment, sure looks that way, but Alex made a reply to someone else's comment about the same and he says no.
I see what you mean but a stress failure of a soft metal would create peaks like that.
the pins where snipped with flush cutter, by the artist who left the flux on the board
@@greentech1658 we will never know what really happen to that connector speculation of heat
I'd say whom every wanted to take it off so it will fit in the case lol
Commit to skipping upgrades for the next twelve months. Avoid 40xx cards. There are 10 000+ games on steam you can play on a 2060 RTX. Avoid all new products for at least 12 months, and that includes hardware and software. Protect your money, don't waste it. Amazing repair and great repair channel . Thx my dude.
Which card is coming next? Any idea of the features
@@mindrover777 Intel battlemage
Great job Alex! What a professional, you make it look easy but its very difficult. 👍
Yea Alex is an enabler, makes it look easy so guys out there make the mistake of thinking its as easy as he makes it look and then they quickly get into trouble!
Alex you do some amazing work and have learned a lot from you thank you for everything you do.
Alex, this is a great channel. Soldering wires direct to a PCB often causes excessive force on the via holes and any cable movement will crack the PCB. You definitely choose the correct repair. Say Hi to Big Boss. Awesome.
The customer wrote what happened(albeit vaguely) and this is what a lot of 4080 and 4090 users experience - due to size of the card and the fact that the connector is parallel to the card's board, once the cable is plugged in and if your case is not big enough you're likely to have a clearance issue with the side panel of the case. Customer obviously encountered that and perhaps was trying to force the panel close. As the panel would be pressing on the cables and not the connector itself the force would be applied at an angle, breaking off the connector as a result.
Having said that - each of the broken pins has a deep groove visible on the cross-section - almost as if the pins are not solid but have a little through-hole in them, if that's so then of course they're going to break with force applied.
It's a on issue the FE cards aren't even big, don't understand how you spending over 1000 on a GPU and not spending a 100 dollars to get a proper case, it's nonsense
I like how you do a very comprehensive and sharp job. Factory doesn't come close.
Dude your comments crack me up during your work. I can tell you’ve been doing this a long time by the way you’re confident to the point of sarcasm which is awesome.
Perfect job. Literally the fist what i was thinking about layers of PCB and different alloy that can cause scrattering etc but this guy is master. Even heatened this extra that almost no one do at YT.
nice job on the repair.
the customer probably needs to buy an angled adapter socket/plug so this does not happen again.
4090 owner here. The connectors and the cables scare the crap out of me. They are the worst combo where they feel flimsy, but simultaneously are VICEGRIPPED together. They are huge cards too, so they usually have to be removed if you want to access things like M.2 slots.
What a blend of Science and Artistry....!! and the finished product is strong, stable, functional and a work of Art. A pleasure to watch you work.
*THERE'S THE WARNING SIGN !*. Why are the cables/wires more substantial (thicker) than the CONNECTOR PINS ? THAT IS *INSANE*.
IT'S TRULY A TOTALLY DEFECTIVE CONNECTOR *BY DESIGN*. The contacts should be AT LEAST as large diameter as the cable/wire attached to them if the current rating is to be adequate.
If you have one of these cards, make sure you get the Cablemod adapter to stop it smashing into your side panel. If you have to force it, Don't.
This is why the side of my case is currently leaning against my case. I still need to order one of these adapters.
I just leave the side of my case off, no animals or small children to mess with it
@@chincemagnet dust
@@MiGujack3 not a major problem, I clean it a couple times a year
"Couple of times a year".... What. Dust (especially from dead skin) builds up VERY quickly within a matter of days within an enclosed environment. Within a week your computer will have a coating of it skin/dust littering the inside of your case and all over your components. @@chincemagnet
Alex: "What's that connector made out of? Biscuit?" 😂🤣 What a good day to hear that 😂🤣 0:54
The 12VHPWR sockets/cables have two problems, both related to tolerances. The standard 12VHPWR adapter cable that comes with NVIDIA 40XX cards fits extremely tightly into the socket. I own a 4090 and it takes a LOT of force to properly plug the cables in, the latch doesn't lock down and hold it in place without a lot of force. The two problems are that people can use too much force and break the connector, or not enough force in which case the socket and cable can burn up because they aren't properly mated.
You might want to advise customers to use an alternative 12VHPWR cable to the standard one that ships with the 40 series, or advise them to use a tiny amount of lubricant on the plastic of the factory provided cable. Depends on if the replacement 12VHPWR sockets you're using have more forgiving tolerances than the factory installed ones.
That or connect the connector before whilst it (the GPU) is outside of the computer.
Yes Bro...
As u said, u work is always better than the factory assembling.
I would have never thought of low melt solder until I watched you videos it works 🙏
You maybe don't know this Alex,but you are an Artist.
The modern version of an Artist maybe,but none the less , an Artist.
last week i replaced my phone microphone with just a soldering iron. i fixed my soldering iron and then apply heat underneath the board. bad microphone came out and did same to fix new microphone. these new digital microphones are so tiny like 2mm . watching ur video gives me confidence to fix it. 😄
This is not really about the connector, this is about using the big fat card in a too small case. The connector is getting wrecked because guy closes the side panel which puts continuous heavy pressure on the connector due to the cable being squeezed by the closed case side panel. He needs a new case or a special connector that fits between the card and the side panel.
Exactly this. Loads of places sell 12VHPWR angled connectors / adaptors now to help with this.
@Rein or.... spend $20-$40 on a decent angled adaptor that takes up about 2cm which is far less than the bend radius on the cables.....
great sense of humor and humble sales pitch for the microscope
Greetings. Fantastic job. It is always a pleasure watching you work. Mesmerizing. Brilliant. Enthralling. Captivating. Profoundly educational.
Factory soldering was great. The problem was with the user who had his case sidepanel pushing against the cable. Making the metal in the connector tired.
Amazing! A Magician at work. All I can say is that I love your videos.
Dude you make this look so easy, I know it isn't easy for someone without a great deal of experience but you know they always say professionals make what they do look easy and that's why they are pros.
Love to watch how you work and explain.
Clean shiny mirror luke and concave in appearance. Impossible to do without flux, and a great deal of skill, you make it look easy
i've been building computers for years and never have had issues with connectors.
but i understand how most components are made so i don't use the Hercules method when connecting things.
But i will admit, in some cases when the connector has a small lock tab on it sometimes it is hard to get it to go in that far because the pin sockets are tight when new.
i actually used silicone grease one time just to see if it would help lol (you know the silicone grease you use like on spark plug boots and other type electrical plugs).
i found if something doesn't go together easily then something is wrong and have to look further into it to see why.
i guess some folks get impatient and loose their minds? then things start to break ;o)
Nice job Alex, you're the man! Better than factory!
Have a great day sir :o)
That's probably because you haven't gotten your hands on a 4080 or a 4090...Handle one of those and you'll see how the connector was broken..Lmao
Great tip on getting the low melt to sink in the holes
I like biscuits too. But not crumbly connectors LOL. Another great soldering job.
Most common for breaking the connector is simply to tight PC chassies where the side press on the cable and make the bend to harch. The cable cant bend as much and the connector breaks off. There are however adaptors (jays2cent) that works with these cards so the cable goes eather straight up or down from the connector on the GPU.
Love watching a professional at work. makes me wish I had a damaged gpu
Thank you for the hard work! Can't wait to get it back and in service.
I don't know if this is an issue or not but
I LIKE WHEN YOU PUT A LOT OF FLUX ☠️😂
WoW I've never been 'into' electronics regarding actual building of components but thank you so much for the enlightening video mate and all the best for the future. Cheers
He needs to buy the new Cable MOD 12 pin connector that come in all different combinations for the new 4000 series card to stop this problem. They have 90 degree cables for them cards. Tell him to invest in one. If he doesn't want to invest in one, then do not have the side panel on his pc. Simple
😂
That board must be insanely sturdy having the connector pins sheared off not giving way to a single pad... I know, throughholes but unless you wiggle the connectors into fatigue, the chances of resin, glue and fiber breaking over a solid metal pin are usually rather low.
Maybe because of all the fuzz about that 12 pin connector melting people are trying to push it in to hard.
Or people trying to jam these massive cards into cases that are too small. Cables squished against the side panel. They now sell 90 degree adapters to remedy this.
@@CaliKorleone Could be, it's just that i had to stop myself from almost doing this since the connector did not want to sit 100% flush against the connector housing on my card. Like it was shown in the gamers nexus video.
Nvidia has had trouble with this connector 12VHPWR, some cards consuming over 500 watts got burnt. This connector is hell !
it is 100% people installing wrong.
It's a non sense to have reduced not only the number of pins but also the size of them (compared to the 2x8 pins connector we used to have on most GPUs). Especially knowing GPU are going to use more a more watts.
@@testickles8834
Not 100%
It is wrongly designed as well. This connector shouldn’t have been selected for such amount of power.
@@testickles8834 Stop spewing what your daddy Steve says all the time, ok? Use your brain.
"Are you paying for the flux?" LOL
That is beautiful soldering right there.
I like how you work, you are very clean in your work
Another great job Alex. Thanks
Awesome video dude. JayzTwoCents said the day the 4080/4090 released that there will be problems with these connecting ripping off the board. He was right.
I’m thinking this customers tower case isn’t wide enough and is putting pressure on the power connector / cabling. Just get a different case, and transfer everything. Don’t hardwire a wiring harness directly to the board 🤦.
you did everything right with the connector and did especially well with the wire adapter. It has only 60 plugged in cycles.
It is actually only 30 I believe, and the old 8-pins have the same rating.
What do you mean by 60 plugged in cycles? Is this the amount of times the connector can be used before typically snapping/breaking or something?
Gotta admit….watching this was kinda mesmerizing and cathartic at the same time.
Alex, you truly are a Guru! Love your videos!
Gpu and motherboard repairs are my fav. So soothing ❤
The register was in place before he started to remove the broken pins. You can see it if you set the video playback speed to 0.25 and play the video from 4:21 to 4:23.
Considering this card was only launched late last year why would it not be returned to the retailer under warranty for either a replacement or FOC repair? I can only assume that the customer had a go at repairing then realised a 25w soldering iron are no substitute for specialised equipment and outstanding skills.
Master at work, great work.
amazing handiwork with great set of tools....
Thanks Alexia
Those are some nice and shiny balls !
This is ART! I love it. Thanks for your efforts, I learned a lot. May Allah bless and reward you.
@15:30 -- this gives the true meaning to what he says "Better Than Factory"
The best saying: was that Goddzilla or King Kong? 😂🤣👍
Been a long time watcher/student/fan and will be up your way at the end of the year to buy some equipment.
I plan to come by the new shop as I want to look at everything I want to buy in person and up close. Of course I'll have questions.
What is a good time of day to come by? I don't want to interrupt your daily business.
Another great show Sir.
So yet another issue with these new connectors. The problem here is that most cases/chassis on the market do not have enough width to accommodate both the width of the GPU and then also the arching cable and the result is that people have to push against the cable/connector when closing the side panel and this can cause the connector breaking like this. Cablemod are now offering modded sleeved cables with angled connector/contact to mitigate this issue. Another option for those that have enough room in their case is to get a riser cable and mount the GPU vertically in the case. My case the Coolermaster Mastercase SL600M is one of those cases with enough room to fit these new cables as it has 191 mm worth of width for CPU coolers before hitting the glaspanel. But many cases today only have 150-170 mm worth of space and that is a problem with these cards.
It's a form of meditation watching your videos! 👍
Satisfying repair. Sounds like the owner needs an angle connector for power.
"We are working with a monster, you cannot scare a monster with a slingshot.....*(longpause)..... you have to have a machine-gun"
"It does not hurt to go at it one more time from the back, that way our job becomes a lot easier"
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I think Nvidia's connector sucks, it's like adding insult to injury with cards being overpriced in the first place. What was wrong with the old connectors? They were bigger....isn't bigger better for more power?
You are a magician in your craft bro good work 👍👍
Just amazing, as usual, "Better thank Factory !"
Have you considered using a pre-heater (hot plate)?
I set mine to 100°C, it's enough to ease the work on thick PCBs without being too hot for plastic parts like connectors.
I'd like to hear your opinion.
he does use a hot plate, you must be new here.
Alex you're awesome, Thanks
Very impressive, looks perfect
WHY ARENT THEY JUST WELDING THE WHOLE CONNECTOR AND JUST HAVE CABLES COMING OUT ?
You are like the ER show, House show or Good Doctor of GPUs. It would be funny if a TV drama series was made on computer and gadget repair with costumers begging the computer repair man based on you to fix their broken electronics but done in a dramatic style similar to the hospital and surgery shows.
I can go back many years (2013) "I think" when HP laptops had a huge problem with Nvidia onboard Graphics cards. The chip practically desoldered itself from the motherboard with overheating. HP recalled thousands of the laptops and fitted new motherboards. Mine was not on the list of serial numbers recalled but it failed. HP tried a bios fix to bring on the cooling fans which meant that the fan was almost constantly running before the recall. After threatening with legal action they admitted that it had the same fault and replaced my motherboard which lasted less than a year after the repair with the same symptoms.
Amazing job! The real boss!
Vertical mounts are the way to go with some of these huge cards.
The GPU mount on my Define R6 is only dual slot. There are no dual slot 40 series cards. The R6 is a fairly large case too. Luckily the R6 is WIDE and and the card mounts in the normal slot without side panel/cord issue.
I'm so glad I stuck to my Cooler Master HAF 912. All of the HAF series are more than large enough for the 4080 and 4090. I personally think nvidia was really stupid with their design by putting in a straight up connector. The 30 series cards had an angle along the length of the card at a shallow angle and this solution is best. I also upgraded to a proper atx 3.0 supply and it also helped. A 90 degree adapter should be what nvidia include instead of the dumb straight adapter. Nvidia was cutting costs for sure when they decided to use this connector and adapter combination.
Same, HAF932 and 912 here. Still superior to most modern cases, after all these years.
I'm glad you saw the resistor, I was yelling at my phone...lol
me too! 😆
Same! LOL Alex always finds that stuff though. He checks his work thoroughly.
Excellent work!
PCb's are so much better these days. I remember in early 1980's a solder sucker would often suck off the pad. You had to be very careful.
Nice work grasshoppa!
Why does every soldering work so satisfying to watch ?😅
What is the connector made of: Biscuit?😂😂😂that’s a good one mate
Top service!
Love your videos buddy, pure free knowledge.
Love watching these repairs. I've learned a lot! "You can never have enough flux" is now engrained in my brain lol...
Side note, I fell victim to a failed 4090 where my Cablemod 90° adapter fused to my cards 16pin. Cablemod has been great though, not only covering the adapter but also covering the card in the case of a rejected RMA. Top notch support from them. Now Nvidia just needs to do something about this trash they've attached to their design. Complete garbage, I'd sooner have 4x 8pin cables than this crap. Sure it looks nice and clean but damn, their QA messed up big time.
Q&A didn't mess up. Jensen did, as he'd have given the go ahead knowing full well about the flaws of this new connector.
all 6 pins away from the 4 small pins are ground the 6 pins closest to the 4 small pins are 12v and the 4 small are sense pins. that go to the power supply to tell it how much power it can give. if 3/4 are connected it will provide 450W if all 4 600W and 2 i believe is 300W. and the reason they were melting was because they were not fully plugged in causing extra resistance. it was user error not a defect in the connector.
I have a fever!! 🤒
and my prescription is more flux!!
Excellent job!
Very nice work. Every day I watch videos from ALEX and I can't wait for another video. I will watch the video several times during the day. Thanks a lot Alex. Of course subscribe and thumbs up as always
"Just watch this video on a big screen TV an enjoy". Definitely living the life here.
Great work from a pro. Amazing. Greets
It's obvious if using considerable force to close your case to the point of breaking a whole connector. There's zero reason for this to happen and the person is lucky they didn't do more damage to the board. Great job on the fix though. 👏
first time viewer.. WOW!! awesome vid!! true craftsmanship! indeed better than factory!
Alex should go on the road with that comedy routine >>> Biscuit!
Amazing work!
I made the mistake of thinking i can desolder a charging port for my kids laptop. I realized the solder isnt melting and im forced to admit defeat and take it to an expert