I imagine how hard it would have been for her son to want to go out and play or do anything between all the ice baths, him being forced to stand up against a wall for long periods, sleeping inside a closet with only a diaper on and a diet consisting of bread and hot sauce. This child must have felt so awful and miserable 100% of the time. What a monster this woman is.
She was struggling financially but could buy cameras, motion detectors, alarms, and shackles. This monster infuriates me!!! Glad she was found guilty to bad she can't endure the same treatment and torture she put Timothy thru!!!
Right? Why not just pay for the damaged Chromebook from Timothy’s high school in Oklahoma so she could get his records and get him enrolled in high school there in Michigan? How is it she didn’t have money to pay that fine, but she had money for locks, alarms, and motion sensors?? She contradicts herself constantly.
Tortured one son to death and is blaming another son. She's a special kind of narcissist. Completely unbelievable testimony. Almost laughable how terrible she was on the stand.
Seriously!! I know someone she's 26yrs old. Has absolutely no financial difficulties. She has a partner and bought their house outright along with a brand new car. Both their parents are quite wealthy. She recently had a baby. No problems or difficulties during the pregnancy or birth. She had extended maternity leave from work as was able to use her annual leave and use her partners paternity leave. During her maternity leave she decided to do an online masters course. She said the course was really easy online and the assignments and disatation was all straightforward and easy. Then all of a sudden she said she has PTSD from having a baby because her partner doesn't help her. She actually apparently has an actual PTSD diagnosis from having a baby. Even though all along prior to this she boasted how lucky she was to have a simple pregnancy and birth especially compared to a friend who had a very traumatic birth. She boasted how her baby slept loads so she was just left to finish up her masters course and was greatful the baby wasn't awake or crying loads like other babies. BUT still somehow she managed to get a PTSD diagnosis just from having a baby and that's traumatic to her because her partner who works doesn't help her. She works from home aswell. So if she can get that diagnosis for having a baby then it's clear that absolutely anyone can get diagnosed with PTSD for absolutely anything!! It's a joke and an insult to our military people, to people that have endured abuse, or genuine people that have experienced actual traumatic events!! Crazy!!
@@ChanMitch-ur3bw ummm…it’s not ptsd lol it’s post partum depression (PPD) not post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) 😂 And yes a lot of women can get PPD after having a baby even if there is not a lot of stress in the home or delivery. It’s a chemical imbalance that can occur right after the baby is born. In a lot of women it is short lived and doesn’t last long, but some women get a severe case and can become extremely psychotic to the point they can murder the child or themselves. You should look it up, it’s a real thing and it has zero to do with money or how good you think she has it. It’s about hormones and the brain after delivery. PTSD however is brought on by trauma which is completely different. So you are mistaking PPD for PTSD or she told you the wrong thing, but I guarantee she got diagnosed with PPD since she just had a baby
@@ChanMitch-ur3bwExactly. Tired of everyone claiming they have PTSD. Apparently, Shanda Vanderark wasn’t even present when her husband had the stroke. Whatever the case, she just using as excuse for what she did.
This woman is cruel and sadistic. And then she encouraged her adult son to be sadistic and torture his sibling to death and has the audacity to say she didn’t know she did anything wrong. What a complete psychopath.
This woman is absolutely disgusting. She is basically blaming her son for everything and making herself out to be an angel. She is the one that suggested hot sauce on his genitals and now she doesn't remember it. Yeah ok lady. I will bet the jury finds her guilty.......
@@slconley I agree 💯. She is getting treated better in jail than she treated her son. She didn't want her kids hence why they didn't live with her and they should have never been able to live with her at all. Karma is gonna visit her everyday in prison.
So which is it....Timothy couldn't go to school because she didn't have legal custody or because he damaged property at a previous school? She has a story for everything. Completely insane!
@@anythingforselenas806 Special order HOT 🥵 HOT 🥵 HOT 🥵 sauce❗️ On bread and she text Paul “Don’t let him have another piece of bread for 30 minutes.” And probably no water.
She says him being a zombie is horrific because of medication but it’s not horrific giving him an ice bath, starving him, and treating him like an animal. What a psychopath.
It’s hard to comprehend what she suffers from, for her to work so hard to earn a college degree and law degree makes one wonder what was wrong with her, to earn such a high law score licensing exam is extremely hard to do, what could have happened to make her toss all that demanding work down the drain. Surely she knew she was putting herself and Paul in jeopardize. Given her intelligence it’s hard to understand why she didn’t handle legal issues which would have allowed her to get professional treatment and educational assistance for Timothy. She would have known how to work the system to get services. Also don’t understand why she kept youngest one home schooled. G being out of home and in school would have made for less concerns for what G could be exposed to during day and reduce Paul’s duties to parent him. As a psychologist I am not sure what her diagnosis is, more self defeating traits but she is proud of her good intellect. According to a post I read when she was divorced first time she moved 18 times and by her own admission hasn’t spoke to 2 sisters in 20 years. There is probably a lot of more historical data we don’t know about. She was not equipped to parent a disturbed child and am sure Timothy could have been challenging with his destructive tendencies she had no training in how to use appropriate behavior modification techniques. She seemed paranoid hence hiding kids, none had normal social life. Who knows what older kids are like but certain they have issues
@@lizpurr8402 that is not true, the distribution of intelligence is similar to that of all people. Never read psychopaths have higher IQ than normal distribution with average being 100. What studies are you referencing? I think psychopaths may have more brain structural anomalies but don’t recall specific studies. Paul’s mom has to be well above average intelligence to achieve her law bar test score, it’s a national test and well known to be very hard exam, her score I would bet is in the very high percentile, far exceeding other candidates, maybe even at 1% which is exceedingly higher than others seeking to pass bar exam. Her good intent exceeds norm by far, which I wonder why she would have worked so hard and earned stellar bar score yet must have realized all would be for naught for her actions. To ignore possible arrest and charges against her I think suggests some breaks with reality testing, not overt psychotic behaviors but fractured reality testing. A full psychological assessment may offer clarity to cognitive and psychological make-up, objective and subjective tests. No psychopaths are not known for being necessarily of high IQ.
This woman is disgusting. She could “barely function” from all her hours at work, yet she had plenty of time to torture her child. That was her REAL full time job.
Her comment about Timothy wanting to play baseball made me angry. The way she said, "Sorry sweetie, you don't have the coordination for that," with a smirk on her face, just showed her hatred for him. I guarantee she said it to him. I think she got some sort of sick satisfaction from torturing her son. Who has cameras they watch all day at work and then enforces her abuse even when not home? This woman is just evil.
@@JeanninecomeauRight, and I can't believe how arrogant she is to think she can talk her way out of what she did to poor Timothy. I feel so bad for him having to suffer like that at the hands of his own mother and brother. I'll never understand why or how anyone can do something like this.
He was a “zombie” and it was horrible…says a woman who starved her child to death because of his behavior issues. I hope the dad feels absolutely horrible for leaving his son with her.
She's a monster and lier neither her or the father could handle Timothy. She never was allowed to be near Timothy let alone take care of him. I bet she cashed his ssd checks though. She lies
If you’ve ever seen photographs or footage of the Nazi female concentration camp guards in WWII, they have the same dark and disturbing demeanor this woman gives off here. Absolutely chilling. She’s a monster.
No one eats food that's still frozen, uncooked bacon and hamburger meat unless they are STARVING . She really is a piece of work trying to make that seem normal for someone stealing food to do.
True, she was angry cause he ate not cause it was frozen she even told Paul to give him some food and it was ok with her if it was frozen. Hard to understand why after all her hard work just tossed law career away, who would do that?
could you imagine a child taking a 20 or 40 year olds candy out of the Easter basket ,oh no! And I'm pretty sure G did just fine with candy and anything he wanted
I love the fact that her memories are very detailed during questioning from HER lawyer. She miraculously develops memory problems when she's questioned by the other lawyer.
One cant pick and choose what they can and cant remember. Quit being emotional and judging this mom who was put into an impossible situation and is now being judged by imbeciles on the internet
She "disassociates" dueing ANY time of stress but you were able to pass the bar exam and hold a very stressful joh within the legal field. This lady is simply evil. Period.
Right!? 😢😢😢 She "disassociated" when she was just sitting at work. In a courtroom. When she wasn't in trial. Zero stress. She "disassociate" due to the "trauma" of seeing her husband AFTER he'd had a stroke. But she hasn't forgotten a single word since she's been ON TRIAL FOR MURDER or since she FOUND HER BABY DEAD? I also think its funny how she "can't remember" doing it but she always remembers "why" she did it. *** It'd be like if you were in a movie theater (lets say youre watching a horror movie) and then you suddenly, uncharacteristically just jumped up and started singing and dancing at the top of your lungs... If you didn't remember doing it... how could you tell us WHY you did ut? 🤔 Especially if it was "uncharacteristic" of you? If it was "something you would never do"? You wouldn't be able to rationalize it at all - yet she sure doesn't have a problem telling us WHY she did every single bit of torture to her baby boy. Strange, huh? 😕😒🙄
Yes she must’ve seen the wrong movie about trials strange as she’s so prolific about her education legally- but her poor dead child wouldn’t dare to ask her for help- out of sheer fear…. Rot you evil creature
Yea and she's managing this trial pretty well. I've got PTSD and anxiety. Dissociate too. I wouldn't be able to even put a sentence out. She is very alert, there's no panic in her voice and no way could you manage eye contact if your in such high stress.
Agree, there was something off with G being home schooled because no one there except cameras and sometimes Paul, Timothy was not allowed to go to G’s room, think she abused G in less overt way
What makes this case so unique is the fact that she is a highly intelligent woman. Anyone with some common sense can see right through her lies and manipulation. She thinks she can out smart anyone.
I truIy think her Iack of remorse is because she's stiII pissed that poor Timothy had the audacity to die before she couId teach him a Iesson. For whatever twisted reason, she despised him. She's no mother, she's a monster. Karma wiII catch up to her in the decades she wiII have to constantIy have to Iook over her shouIder and wonder when it's coming. Prison justice. Anyone who thinks that's just in movies hasn't spent much time in a prison. I worked in one and we had an inmate who SA'd young teens. He had an unfortunate accident where he feII going up some cement steps when someone behind him bumped into him a bit hard. Oops, how very cIumsy of him 🤫 We aII knew what happened and how he Iost some teeth eating cement. But the warden, asst warden and white shirts didn't know or weren't saying. So no one was punished. Corrections officers have chiIdren too and don't Iike peopIe who harm them so deIiberateIy and sadisticaIIy.
right, and that doesn't make the whole "make mental health tests required for gun purchases!" hold up well, does it... Not all criminals are idiots, not all criminals are mentally ill.
Without mental illness? I'd say someone who could do these things has to be mentally ill in one way or another. Sane, sober, moral & prudent people do not behave or do things like this. .But I agree with you nonetheless.
@@SoulsOfAmarth the church shooter this past year in Germany (6 fatalities) had no mental illness. Germany has the leftist-cheered mental health tests before buying a gun, and the guy still passed and got the gun. Not all criminals are insane, and mental illness is not a good determining factor for people committing crimes
I think what's more likely is the older son would sexually abuse the 15 Yr Old and was caught doing it and she a victim of abuse blamed not her one son but the other or non of this makes any sense
@@-Indyfan007she's blaming Paul because she wants out of prison. That's all. She wants freedom. And Paul's the only one she can try and pin the blame on. Why are you making up scenarios in your head that there is no evidence of. And saying it is the only thing that makes sense. Absolutely ridiculous.
Notice how she answers questions with some anger and too much authority, so I am convinced she hurt her two boys, she is deranged beyond repair. What a sick person
Imagine things she may have pulled on the cases she was involved in. If she will treat a kid like that how would she treat someone she thought was a criminal or deserves it.
@@brianhanley2933 damn. I was so caught up in THIS tragedy that it ever occurred to me what she may have done! You are right!!! All her cases need review.
She has enough intellect to pass a bar exam,graduated kum laude, literally works for a judge,but cant seem to figure out how to obtain school records or medical help or how to keep a completely healthy boy alive, 😢😢
Unfortunately, emotional intelligence is very different than intellectual intelligence. Seems she lacked all emotional intelligence skills needed to not abuse a child.
Obtaining school records, figuring it out requires intellectual intelligence,medical help, or child care help, she has it but did not use it.. or won’t
the unabomber had a higher IQ than Stephen Hawking.... The smarter guy was a terrorist who killed people, the dumber guy won tons of awards and was famous worldwide. Intelligence does not mean you will be a good person.
Fake crying and fake vomiting. I really didn’t watch that part cuz I have a queasy stomach but I’m sure it was fake as hell. She knew what her son looked like when he died. And what’s up with waiting 18 minutes to call 911? She was waiting for him to die.
Yes on the police officers video camera from that morning she was acting it up and she was not a good actress at all!! She went from sobbing with no tears to calmly answering his questions. It was so obvious to the officer that something was up!
She can't sleep, remember the abuse and neglect, but passed the bar exam. Im praying the jury sees through her 🐂💩 and blaming her older son for this?? 🤬 she is despicable
Timothys ribs were visible through his skin according to the coroner.... yet she had no idea he was starving... her eyes weren't functioning.... she has all these "diagnoses" for herself, and not one visit to the dr for her son. What a piece of work. No wonder she did not have custody...book smart, but brain dead and soulless.
When you withhold food from any child, you deserve HELL!!!! I went through severe abuse as a child. This brings it all back. Whew!!! This woman is COLD & EVIL. I see it in her eyes. I'm thankful the jury saw her just as she is, guilty.
The text messages alone convict her. She really sat there line she was innocent. She said he “passed away” .. he didn’t pass away! He was tortured to death!
Yes, noticed that obfuscation “passed away” instead of tortured to death! Her actions on Timothy’s final night weren’t her “insomnia.” She was accomplishing the final chapter of her son’s prolonged TORTURE❗️❗️ 👺🥵💔🤬👺🤯👺 And training Paul exactly how to enforce her wicked schemes so she could pass the blame onto him❗️ We don’t factor another aspect of people: the spirit. Some behavior is EVIL! 👺
I am so glad that they are not allowing her to hide behind a diagnosis of disassociation if she’s not been clinically diagnosed by a doctor that specializes in mental health.
I just listened to some of her jail calls that were before the trial and she literally tells someone that she read about disassociation being linked with PTSD while she was doing research she was never told by anyone that she had PTSD or disassociation she just read it and thought that sounds good so thats when she started saying it. I cant believe her defence attorney is stupid enough to try to say that she has it with no reference from any medical practitioner and then he tries to argue that its the same as someone saying they were intoxicated, complete moron. She is pure evil just evil.
they slept better than she did though🙄 She says she was barely awake and can't remember if she went down to check on him when he fell out of bed at 5:30 AM, but she only got an hour of sleep
THIS trial takes the cake. Shes thee most dangerous of them all thus far. What a piece of work. Justice is to do to her what she's done to this innocent child. One ice bath, one swallow of hot sauce, she'd be crying unfaun treatment of a prisoner. We need laws that allow their punishment to be exactly what they dish out.
It never ceases to amaze me how much smarter than the rest of us defendants who testify in their own defence are. She doesn’t always remember what she did but what Paul did she remembers clearly.
@@dandylion9998 But she reads her own texts so “I don’t remember” isn’t going to fly. We don’t factor in another aspect of people: the spirit. Some behavior is EVIL! 👺
The way she didn't encourage him "taking things apart" & instead punished him is so sad. He was trying to learn. He could have been a mechanic.. who knows now. What a sick excuse for a "mother" 🤮 Hope she rots in jail & they forget to feed her..
I hate to see her just pick up the bottle of water and drink... I'm sure Timothy would have loved to have a bottle of water after she feed him hot sauce... I don't care how much trouble Timothy was, she could have turned him over to the states.
If he was as much trouble as everyone who testified says he was, then he's honestly better off gone. Kids with severe behavioral issues who are given to foster care almost never end up ok. They basically end up with permanent psychological trauma from being abandoned, and they often get abused by the foster parents since they can't handle them either. Very few foster parents are truly qualified to care for kids like Timothy.
Sounds like if the kids were raised by someone other then the parents, they would've grown up normal. Chaotic home life causes the issues those kids were diagnosed with
She was never supposed to have him, i believe her rights were terminated..the father should have put him in states custody..it was obvious she was an abuser when the kids were initially removed from her. There is a daughter as well, the father sent to Timothy to his death..he should be charged too
I have a 26 yo nonverbal autistic daughter. She has a very hard time falling asleep and staying asleep. A lot of autistic individuals have this same problem. He wasn’t purposefully staying up all night to keep them from sleeping. If she didn’t have all those alarms then she wouldn’t be woke up by him. I hope she is given street justice in prison everyday.
Doubtful. I was in jail with a girl who held her 4 month old baby down so her bf could SA it. I asked why no one was distributing street justice, and was informed no one wants to add to their time. It's understandable, but I really hope someone cares more about this boy than their sentence length.
The child’s reaction sounds like one of needing help, calling out for help… unable to sleep! Unable to eat. Neglected in the day… desperately needing support & care. Her reaction- make things into a prison camp - so so sad. Of course … maybe she tried on a handful of occasions ‘does he want to play basketball? - no ‘ if any of that is true. Of course parenting is hard but it’s a cold calculating harsh nature so different from encouraging & supportive not fit for parenting. The neglect is what is worrying & absolutely no understanding about human emotions, wellbeing or love itself. I don’t doubt that for many who abuse it’s an outlet from their own inadequacies often fuelled from their own experiences of neglect & controlling vs nurturing wellbeing with care but there is always a choice & this choice is conscious regardless of any… circumstance the choice between hurting another human being & not, not watching another suffer like this & between being good & evil & taking the law into your own hands versus truth & justice should any person teach themselves this. Criminals of abuse should not be allowed to walk away freely. Sure look after & train a dog but you live in a dirty place - asking for help, your health comes before your pride, your family & their health should always come first not sick dirty punishments to control & manipulate. I don’t think these people look at their own flesh & blood as human. So sad because it’s all a choice & this pain can be so easily avoided. It’s needed these criminals know they are not above the law itself. The law is there to protect us especially those who are most vulnerable such as children with special needs. It’s not just the case of phycopaths it’s the case of why we continue to have a generation of them - the system has failed many in not educating & providing the support needed for those with the inabilities to make healthy decisions. For example the ego possibly around for reaching out to get help for your child vs neglect & abuse. Shame is possibly the culprit & thus these people make poor decisions based on maintaining control. We need new parts of any governmental system that encourage self awareness, educate on abuse & support parents & community in general. It’s a reflection of our times the sickness that exists & will do unless we find ways to address with law & order & support at large I think. This only highlights the severity of one isolated case on a hugely affected population of varying degrees of cases & this is only the tip of the iceberg. I hope the more that is exposed the more we will see something needs to happen in order to help families, & individuals affected by all of these things. It’s a political thing that needs addressing when it comes to social care, abuse & mental health as a whole.
Gawd! Her drinking water pizzezz me off! Her son was starved to death! And the way she drinks, looks over at the jury, and then squishes her mouth and lips also puts me over the edge. 😂
She explained chronic insomnia and how hard that was for her but she wouldnt allow her child to sleep and would throw ice water buckets on him and hand cuffed him in uncomfortable positions so he would never had one moment of peace.
That poor child, made to sleep in the basement, with only a blue tarp. And hot sauce. That poor boy. His suffering is over and he is in the arms of the Angels. 😢
Barely functioning, but excelling at work ? Working in a court house for judges ? And not able to think clearly ? Perhaps they should of thought of a different line of defense. This one is clearly not working. Those poor children. Heartbreaking
Along these same lines, she has no money to pay her bills but she has an Iphone and an apple watch. She has enough money to put cameras in her house but does not have time to monitor them-even on her lunch break? She is as full of it as Casey Anthony
She stated that the medication he came to her with turned him into a zombie and it was “horrifying” ??she also says they didn’t have money to afford beyond their household needs, but has money to be getting leg shackles, zip ties, and special extra hot hot sauce? And blaming all of the abuse on her son..The audacity of this testimony. None of the math is mathing
She also didn't take him to the doctors to get him the meds. With her education she didn't have the means to go on-line for help. Her water drinking alone tells me she is lying in my opinion.
The father gave him to her and he was healthy and chubby and taking his meds and that's according to her so I don't understand how you came to that conclusion
The fact that she thinks people are believing what she is saying is delusional….she can pass a bar exam but can’t get her son enrolled in school and be seen by a doctor…yea sounds believable!
I literally just said that. This is insanity. How is it that you worked in a court house and didn’t know or find out what papers to file to help your son?
@@fgarrison2910but she’s claiming he did have medical issues. And that’s not what op said. She can graduate and get a scholarship for law school clerk for a judge but can’t figure out how to enroll her son in school? The fact is she didn’t want him in public school. She was a neglectful parent to all her children and didn’t raise them except g. I’m sure he was neglected as well. She was a shyte mother who shouldn’t have had any children in her care.
this is now the second case that has been live streamed of a child with limited capacity that has been killed by a parent. This absolutely disgusting. I can't even imagine the horror her child went through.
Get ready for a third. The parents of Lacey Fletcher have been indicted for second degree murder. She was the autistic girl that was found melted into the couch and weighed less than 100 lbs. Coroner estimated she sat on that couch for 12 years. Medical neglect.
It’s awful what this woman did, but let’s remember most of us don’t have to deal w a son with the issues hers had. I have compassion for the hell parents of non normal kids have to endure.
@@bluemoon7363you should go ahead and delete this comment. It’s offensive to call children with special needs “non normal”. They are normal children. Their physical or mental capabilities may require special accommodations. None of this is an excuse for torture.
She is the reason why her son died. She manipulated Paul to participate in her cruelty against her son. She needs life in prison without parole, and Paul needs treatment in a psychiatric institution.
What kind of “legal brain” doesn’t acquire child support, legal custody, and medical insurance from her ex-husband when she accepts total custody of her child?
Her parental rights were basically terminated in Oklahoma. She wasn’t supposed to be around that child, that’s why she didn’t actually seek custody of him.
@@berr644 it's was over money? Now she has to live like a slave. Lucifer gets another one. This is why people to turn to God. The evil is all over the world.
Wow she is a real narcissist. She kills one son, and completely blames the other. Her children were taken away by court order. The ex will be in major trouble because he sent him to a death sentence with his mother. They tossed him around like trash. Talking about how smart she is in law makes her look even worse.
No the dad will not be in trouble unless he witnesses the child being starve and tortured. You can’t punish a person for being a negligent person, and it doesn’t sound as if he knew what was going on.! He obviously washed his hands of this child also. But his mother sure knew! She’s disgusting! She up there thinking she looks so smart, and she has an explanation for everything!! Paul was terrified if his mother too but he knew what was going on, but didn’t say no to what she wanted in regards to hurting his brother ! She is evil all the way through !
She got off on abusing him… I can hardly check my ring camera when there is a notification and I’m an average joe employee.. She is in court, working on cases and handing down torture instructions to Paul as she watches on camera
The legal system our governments Our schools Our military Our police departments Your next door neighbor's They Are everywhere Time to see this And call it out or we are all f#@&$*
This woman is being asked about totally horrific and inhumane treatment of her child and she’s not ashamed of that but she is concerned that someone might think she used her phone while driving. When asked about GPS and texting while in the car she makes sure to specify that she used Siri (hands free). Unbelievable.
We heard the texts read (only a portion of the thousands of texts) and WE know what happened and WE know who is to blame and WE know before you moved to Michigan you abused him in Oklahoma. There are records and reports. This is a special kind of evil. And the jury knows you are responsible for his death.
@@tewks4458 Take notice how she suddenly becomes dumb when a questioned is asked about her choice of punishments and parenting skills. It’s all Paul’s fault. It was Paul’s idea. Paul did it not me. Yes, Paul who was 19 and doesn’t have the sense God gave a turkey, but she takes his advice. Good grief! .
Her saying he wore baggy clothes hid his weight loss. He didn't wear clothes on his face. Everyone knows it weight loss/gain is easily seen in the face.
Only shows emotions when it pertains to her own feelings or to manipulate those in the room. Disgusting. No one tear actually falls. Can’t remember anything but when asked about the day Timothy died, she remembers how it felt like time had slowed down, she was in shock, she was distraught, she performed cpr etc. Memory only serves in her favor. What a liar. Lock her up!
This is a great moment for everyone to check in with themselves and recalibrate their biases. This woman is a monster. Her education is non factor. To think a law degree somehow exonerates her from the ability to commit this heinous acts against her special needs son is absolutely ridiculous. She physically and emotionally abused her special needs child. She also abused all of her children this is not an isolated case. She has zero relationship with her only daughter and home schooled her youngest child. Abusers isolate in order to control the victim. She has a history with Child Protective Services in Oklahoma and lost custody of her other children. She is a manipulative liar hiding behind her law degree. Her son Paul will probably require intensive therapy for life. One of the most disturbing aspects of this disgusting monster is that she blames her son. She is completely emotionally detached from these children. She is completely devoid of motherly love in her language or demeanor when speaking of any of her children. The term my little man is a distancing. She is unable to my son. She actually should not only get life in prison but she should suffer the same fate her poor son.
I agree. I do have 3 kids I raised alone. I have CPTSD and I disassociate a lot. It’s staring off in space. I still know exactly what is going on; this woman is a horrible liar and a walking demon. May her prison experience be exactly the same as her son’s tragic life.
I get you, I do, but I feel like quite the opposite - I expect it from some ppl in that profession, i.e. every single attorney on the Parkland Shooters 'team.' Takes a certain kind of low to argue on behalf of evil!
its clear from her instructions in her texts to her older son that she was leading the torture on her son, Timothy. She was telling the older son what to do. Horrific. Hopefully the jury will see that. Very wicked woman. we heard the texts where she told Paul to put hotsauce on his bread and to put him in the ice bath- and to tie hs hands up -the texts reveal everything,led by her.
yep, her lawyer picked out specific moments where she didn't explicitly detail the torture. Like her telling Paul to put Timothy "in the bath", saying she never told Paul to put ice in the bath. But we all know what she was telling Paul to do. And they skipped lightly over the hand ties, only that she doesn't remember ordering them 🙄 I have faith the jury are thinking along the same lines, she coordinated all the torture.
@loripeldo1964 She testified that he also ate raw hamburger and raw bacon. Why are you ignoring that part? It was in that same part of her testimony. Anyway even cooked and frozen prepared foods are dangerous if not reheated to a safe temp. Lots of germs in those food factories.
She trained dogs? Damn. I can only imagine what she would do to a helpless dog if she felt free to torture her own child in such a horrific manner. What a monster! I don't think she's helped herself by testifying. She comes across about as unlikeable on the stand as any person could.
It's a fascinating case... but, I just can't fathom how her counsel thought it'd be a good idea for her to take the stand.She couldn't be more unlikable...
"Little Man" reminds me of "Paw Paw." I don't think a jury is ever influenced by murderers using lovey dovey nicknames for any of their family members.
Yes! It makes me cringe! ‘Little man”. Why do you think little man was hoarding food at night? Duh, because he was being starved during the day. Unbelievable.
@@judymurray191 Oh either way, it is the same fake adoration that AM used when he referred to the son he brutally murdered. Fake. Contrived. Made up. Paw Paw. Ro Ro. Mags. Bus. Little man. Fake as hell
She can remember minute details about what she’s accusing her son Paul of, but can’t remember the details about anything that could incriminate her. This woman is lying her backside off.
You can tell by the way she is gabbling, that she knows she has no justification for what she has done! She also involved her other son in the treatment of this poor boy. Makes you wonder why her husband went to his parents after his stroke. Was he being abused too? I hope she gets the worst treatment in prison, the same as she meted out.
Yeah I kind of thought that too he seemed kinda helpless apparently he was in a wheelchair and then had a/as well and then he couldn't use the stairs and decided to go with his parents I think he made a good decision there I bet she was about to get life insurance on him
It’s amazing how much detail she “remembered” UNLESS there was a horrific detail about her actions. Super calculated! She couldn’t even squeeze a single tear out 🤦🏻♀️ She tried hard though!
This is one of the most disturbing cases that I've ever heard. She is completely evil and I hope the jury throws the book at her. She doesn't deserve to be walking around free in this world.
How could she do something like this. I don't know what it's going to be like for this woman when she gets to the joint. I'm not worried about her either.
PTSD from seeing her husband after his stroke??!! Is she for real? For someone afflicted with so many disorders, she should not have been caring for young children let alone one with as many disorders as herself.
I wouldn't leave her with a houseplant. Judging, I know, but she's meant to be compos mentis, but couldn't keep a child alive. I think she's a wrong'un & quite unsettling. Poor, dear child 😮
Like Jodi Arias and Amber Heard, she looks at the jury when she responds at times. Makes her look eerily guilty. She's the perfect representation of evil.
You are so right. This woman takes the cake tho. This isn't lies defamation or a relatively quick stabbing murder in an apartment. This took a long long time to turn this kid to bone.
When u look at her u know something is off u see the craziness in her eyes she tries to be articulate and explains wverything even the thing which doesnt need explanation this woman is 100% guilty
Plenty of parents work full time and have other life stressors. They don’t torture their children in their downtime. How much more energy did she expel by constantly monitoring him and doing all the extra stuff. Instead of just letting him eat when he wanted and go to the bathroom when he needed. How disgusting. And emergency rooms legally cannot turn away patients. She could have went to the emergency room every month and gotten Timothy meds. She is a monster.
Her intelligence tells me that she has severe control issues, then I found out she trained dogs , and that said it all, she gets power from controlling pets and kids. It’s not so much sadism as it is a power struggle and her being in complete control of a human being , especially one that had ADHA and would have been naturally defiant .
And she clearly believes ahe is smarter than everybody else, hence her elaborate explanations aka lies! Her constant quick glances at the jurors says it all.
Dog trainers who use punishment think they can improve the poor animals' behavior; instead they control the dogs by frightening/ torturing them.@@Grammichal
She was concerned about the effects of so much medication on the child, but not the effects of starvation, hypothermia and torture?? And I don't know of any case where someone with Dissociative Disorder tortured their child to death. And how can you be a lawyer with such severe and unpredictable memory problems?
The lowest of lows for a "mother" who blatantly tortured her son to death, to place blame on her other son!! Disgusting! You can't fool the jury! . The greatest judgement will come when you stand before your maker!! RIP sweet Timothy❤️🛐🪦
Alison, I don't think she loves talking about herself, she's actually lying. Liars always give way too much information to distract you from thinking about the horror of it all.
This is totally not true,I have used the word honestly at different times because there are so many people that lie,I use the honesty to stress that I most definitely am not lying,as it seems the majority are liars and I am being totally honest,all though I once remember an attorney telling me not to use the honest when speaking as it used often by liars, I say honestly to express that I am being honest in a world of liars and I do not lie,I cannot stand liars!! totally
This woman genuinely thinks she can just explain away every situation of it being everyone else's fault....she thinks she's about to get away with murder.
I’m wondering if this behaviour flies w anyone @ all? How does anyone get to this age, & still think they can totally snow a judge & jury! It blows my mind! 🤯
The hot sauce method is very common among conservative Christians. The very school she attended (Liberty University) is an evangelical school and was founded by Jerry Falwell. He’s known for teaching and supporting these abusive punishments. She’s such a bad liar and makes me sick to my stomach to know that this happens more than we think.
I imagine how hard it would have been for her son to want to go out and play or do anything between all the ice baths, him being forced to stand up against a wall for long periods, sleeping inside a closet with only a diaper on and a diet consisting of bread and hot sauce. This child must have felt so awful and miserable 100% of the time. What a monster this woman is.
Yes a horrible monster 😢
So mean! She is horrible!!!!
Let's not forget the raw frozen meats
Yep, she's definitely not a mother in any sense of the word. She's an absolute monster.
@@jessicaculver6198 Ugh I missed that. The evil psycho.
She was struggling financially but could buy cameras, motion detectors, alarms, and shackles. This monster infuriates me!!! Glad she was found guilty to bad she can't endure the same treatment and torture she put Timothy thru!!!
And an updated Apple phone...not cheap.
Right? Why not just pay for the damaged Chromebook from Timothy’s high school in Oklahoma so she could get his records and get him enrolled in high school there in Michigan? How is it she didn’t have money to pay that fine, but she had money for locks, alarms, and motion sensors?? She contradicts herself constantly.
bought every month a toybox for her dogs, and opened it on her you tube..
That’s what I was thinking! wtf!
Prison justice is coming for her. Women that can’t see their children will take issue with her for torturing and killing her child.
Tortured one son to death and is blaming another son. She's a special kind of narcissist. Completely unbelievable testimony. Almost laughable how terrible she was on the stand.
She pure evil woman too me
Exactly.......she tries to make is sound normal...and she has ZERO compassion or empathy in her voice.
They have all those text’s messages-from her to the son telling him what to do! She actually abused the older one to help do her dirty work
You could tell immediately she is a true narcissist. She looks like she is an evil character in a horror movie
There’s no emotion from her.
why would your ex having a stroke give you severe ptsd to the point of dissociation? how is that a justification to kill?
Seriously!! I know someone she's 26yrs old. Has absolutely no financial difficulties. She has a partner and bought their house outright along with a brand new car. Both their parents are quite wealthy. She recently had a baby. No problems or difficulties during the pregnancy or birth. She had extended maternity leave from work as was able to use her annual leave and use her partners paternity leave. During her maternity leave she decided to do an online masters course. She said the course was really easy online and the assignments and disatation was all straightforward and easy.
Then all of a sudden she said she has PTSD from having a baby because her partner doesn't help her. She actually apparently has an actual PTSD diagnosis from having a baby. Even though all along prior to this she boasted how lucky she was to have a simple pregnancy and birth especially compared to a friend who had a very traumatic birth. She boasted how her baby slept loads so she was just left to finish up her masters course and was greatful the baby wasn't awake or crying loads like other babies. BUT still somehow she managed to get a PTSD diagnosis just from having a baby and that's traumatic to her because her partner who works doesn't help her. She works from home aswell.
So if she can get that diagnosis for having a baby then it's clear that absolutely anyone can get diagnosed with PTSD for absolutely anything!! It's a joke and an insult to our military people, to people that have endured abuse, or genuine people that have experienced actual traumatic events!! Crazy!!
Ima try to get a PTSD diagnosis for a hangnail. Well, it's not actually a "hang nail," it's more like a normal nail, but still. Trauma.
@@ChanMitch-ur3bw ummm…it’s not ptsd lol it’s post partum depression (PPD) not post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) 😂 And yes a lot of women can get PPD after having a baby even if there is not a lot of stress in the home or delivery. It’s a chemical imbalance that can occur right after the baby is born. In a lot of women it is short lived and doesn’t last long, but some women get a severe case and can become extremely psychotic to the point they can murder the child or themselves. You should look it up, it’s a real thing and it has zero to do with money or how good you think she has it. It’s about hormones and the brain after delivery. PTSD however is brought on by trauma which is completely different. So you are mistaking PPD for PTSD or she told you the wrong thing, but I guarantee she got diagnosed with PPD since she just had a baby
@@ChanMitch-ur3bwExactly. Tired of everyone claiming they have PTSD. Apparently, Shanda Vanderark wasn’t even present when her husband had the stroke. Whatever the case, she just using as excuse for what she did.
@@letsreallytalk9482 I don’t believe her for a second but Shanda says PTSD
I’m so sick of everyone calling everyone a narcissist. It’s so overused. She’s just a killer, an evil individual.
I agree, sociopath
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She's evil 💯
Not all narcissists are killers but all killers are narcissists.
I agree!!
Also ‘bro’ and ‘iconic’
Grrrr
You called it right. Evil
This woman is cruel and sadistic. And then she encouraged her adult son to be sadistic and torture his sibling to death and has the audacity to say she didn’t know she did anything wrong. What a complete psychopath.
💯 i hope the jury can see it too
This woman is absolutely disgusting. She is basically blaming her son for everything and making herself out to be an angel. She is the one that suggested hot sauce on his genitals and now she doesn't remember it. Yeah ok lady. I will bet the jury finds her guilty.......
@@allaboutcrime1972 this woman is beyond disgusting. She wouldn’t even treat a dog as badly as she treated her son.
@@slconley I agree 💯. She is getting treated better in jail than she treated her son. She didn't want her kids hence why they didn't live with her and they should have never been able to live with her at all. Karma is gonna visit her everyday in prison.
Agreed. I can't even make it to the end of the video. This woman is evil.
So which is it....Timothy couldn't go to school because she didn't have legal custody or because he damaged property at a previous school? She has a story for everything. Completely insane!
Right?! The hot sauce was because he liked spicy foods…but also as discipline…how convenient.
Why not pay the fee for the chrome book? She's ridiculous.
So many excuses! She is the parent, she is responsible. End of story. She's horrific!
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Special order HOT 🥵 HOT 🥵 HOT 🥵 sauce❗️ On bread and she text Paul “Don’t let him have another piece of bread for 30 minutes.” And probably no water.
I don’t think she’s insane at all
It’s amazing how she can remember everything about a dog or when she was pregnant but can’t remember nothing about how she killed son 🙄
Convenient isn't it?
I see No remorse in her face at all, Not one tear shed. She is heartless. Let's hope the jury See's what we see in her cold heart.
She killed him why she felt bad now to late too me 😢
Why, she just can't recall.
They see the horrible photos!
We don’t factor another aspect of people: the spirit. Some behavior is EVIL! 👺
@@TuckFrump45 right, but she somehow remembers how much he weighed on Mother’s Day 🤔
She says him being a zombie is horrific because of medication but it’s not horrific giving him an ice bath, starving him, and treating him like an animal. What a psychopath.
Irma Grese, look at the similarities, they even look alike. She should get the same fate if our country was tougher
No animal should be treated like that either
It’s hard to comprehend what she suffers from, for her to work so hard to earn a college degree and law degree makes one wonder what was wrong with her, to earn such a high law score licensing exam is extremely hard to do, what could have happened to make her toss all that demanding work down the drain. Surely she knew she was putting herself and Paul in jeopardize. Given her intelligence it’s hard to understand why she didn’t handle legal issues which would have allowed her to get professional treatment and educational assistance for Timothy. She would have known how to work the system to get services. Also don’t understand why she kept youngest one home schooled. G being out of home and in school would have made for less concerns for what G could be exposed to during day and reduce Paul’s duties to parent him. As a psychologist I am not sure what her diagnosis is, more self defeating traits but she is proud of her good intellect. According to a post I read when she was divorced first time she moved 18 times and by her own admission hasn’t spoke to 2 sisters in 20 years. There is probably a lot of more historical data we don’t know about. She was not equipped to parent a disturbed child and am sure Timothy could have been challenging with his destructive tendencies she had no training in how to use appropriate behavior modification techniques. She seemed paranoid hence hiding kids, none had normal social life. Who knows what older kids are like but certain they have issues
@@Jackiedylan541Lots of psychopaths have high level of intelligence; not really an indication of character- just a facility of the brain.
@@lizpurr8402 that is not true, the distribution of intelligence is similar to that of all people. Never read psychopaths have higher IQ than normal distribution with average being 100. What studies are you referencing? I think psychopaths may have more brain structural anomalies but don’t recall specific studies. Paul’s mom has to be well above average intelligence to achieve her law bar test score, it’s a national test and well known to be very hard exam, her score I would bet is in the very high percentile, far exceeding other candidates, maybe even at 1% which is exceedingly higher than others seeking to pass bar exam. Her good intent exceeds norm by far, which I wonder why she would have worked so hard and earned stellar bar score yet must have realized all would be for naught for her actions. To ignore possible arrest and charges against her I think suggests some breaks with reality testing, not overt psychotic behaviors but fractured reality testing. A full psychological assessment may offer clarity to cognitive and psychological make-up, objective and subjective tests. No psychopaths are not known for being necessarily of high IQ.
This woman is disgusting. She could “barely function” from all her hours at work, yet she had plenty of time to torture her child. That was her REAL full time job.
Her comment about Timothy wanting to play baseball made me angry. The way she said, "Sorry sweetie, you don't have the coordination for that," with a smirk on her face, just showed her hatred for him. I guarantee she said it to him. I think she got some sort of sick satisfaction from torturing her son. Who has cameras they watch all day at work and then enforces her abuse even when not home? This woman is just evil.
I noticed that too. Lots of kids start out without the coordination and improve with practice. She hates this child.
@@JeanninecomeauRight, and I can't believe how arrogant she is to think she can talk her way out of what she did to poor Timothy. I feel so bad for him having to suffer like that at the hands of his own mother and brother. I'll never understand why or how anyone can do something like this.
She is not helping herself at all. Her testimony just makes her look worse. Evil disguised as a mom.
Yes! We don’t factor another aspect of people: the spirit. Some behavior is EVIL! 👺
She lied. She said her ex husband never took the son to the doctor his whole life, yet he has bags of medication. Don't trust her.
Good point
He was a “zombie” and it was horrible…says a woman who starved her child to death because of his behavior issues.
I hope the dad feels absolutely horrible for leaving his son with her.
She is SLIME
If he went to Dr so many times why didn’t drs report to child services?
She's a monster and lier neither her or the father could handle Timothy. She never was allowed to be near Timothy let alone take care of him. I bet she cashed his ssd checks though. She lies
If you’ve ever seen photographs or footage of the Nazi female concentration camp guards in WWII, they have the same dark and disturbing demeanor this woman gives off here. Absolutely chilling. She’s a monster.
I was thinking the same thing. Why such tight braids. It makes her look very evil.
She’s insane and wickedly so. Anyone who hurts a child is insane.
Lindsey, My first comment to her testimony was, "She looks like a Nazi." Same aura, and it's not good.
OMG. I can't unsee that now. Great comparison.
Total Irma Grese vibes! Looks like her too evil
No one eats food that's still frozen, uncooked bacon and hamburger meat unless they are STARVING . She really is a piece of work trying to make that seem normal for someone stealing food to do.
True, she was angry cause he ate not cause it was frozen she even told Paul to give him some food and it was ok with her if it was frozen. Hard to understand why after all her hard work just tossed law career away, who would do that?
Someone who thinks they can get away with it.
@@berr644 When you are being starved this is what you would do. Not just to take food
could you imagine a child taking a 20 or 40 year olds candy out of the Easter basket ,oh no!
And I'm pretty sure G did just fine with candy and anything he wanted
I love the fact that her memories are very detailed during questioning from HER lawyer. She miraculously develops memory problems when she's questioned by the other lawyer.
EXACTLY 💯
Makes sense that they've gone over it. That's common. Better to say "I don't recall"
And she thinks she’s so brilliant and everyone else is too stupid to see through her lies.
One cant pick and choose what they can and cant remember. Quit being emotional and judging this mom who was put into an impossible situation and is now being judged by imbeciles on the internet
@@whiteyfisk9769 imagine taking up for someone who tortured and murdered her 15 yr old son. Monsters defending monsters.
So she remembers everything, UNLESS it implicates any guilt.
She "disassociates" dueing ANY time of stress but you were able to pass the bar exam and hold a very stressful joh within the legal field. This lady is simply evil. Period.
I'm waiting for her to black out testifying. Wouldn't that be high-level stress!!
Right!? 😢😢😢
She "disassociated" when she was just sitting at work. In a courtroom.
When she wasn't in trial. Zero stress.
She "disassociate" due to the "trauma" of seeing her husband AFTER he'd had a stroke.
But she hasn't forgotten a single word since she's been ON TRIAL FOR MURDER or since she FOUND HER BABY DEAD?
I also think its funny how she "can't remember" doing it but she always remembers "why" she did it.
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It'd be like if you were in a movie theater (lets say youre watching a horror movie) and then you suddenly, uncharacteristically just jumped up and started singing and dancing at the top of your lungs...
If you didn't remember doing it... how could you tell us WHY you did ut? 🤔 Especially if it was "uncharacteristic" of you? If it was "something you would never do"?
You wouldn't be able to rationalize it at all - yet she sure doesn't have a problem telling us WHY she did every single bit of torture to her baby boy.
Strange, huh? 😕😒🙄
Yes she must’ve seen the wrong movie about trials strange as she’s so prolific about her education legally- but her poor dead child wouldn’t dare to ask her for help- out of sheer fear…. Rot you evil creature
Yea and she's managing this trial pretty well. I've got PTSD and anxiety. Dissociate too. I wouldn't be able to even put a sentence out. She is very alert, there's no panic in her voice and no way could you manage eye contact if your in such high stress.
It can be done with compartmentalizing
How do you homeschool a child when you’re gone from 6-6?? This woman is more evil than Casey Anthony; I hope street justice is served.
Hell, she makes Susan Smith and Diane Downs look good.
Z FFX
Agree, there was something off with G being home schooled because no one there except cameras and sometimes Paul, Timothy was not allowed to go to G’s room, think she abused G in less overt way
She can't remember....More like she thinks playing stupid is going to help her.
What makes this case so unique is the fact that she is a highly intelligent woman. Anyone with some common sense can see right through her lies and manipulation. She thinks she can out smart anyone.
I’m so thankful she’s testifying! I think it proves how guilty she is. Talk about unbelievable testimony.
Yes! Absolutely! She’s a liar through and through. She’s putting it on display for all to see!
Absolutely- she is awful! She is a sick and nasty woman.
Her mental and memory issues are all made up.
Agreed!!!!
I truIy think her Iack of remorse is because she's stiII pissed that poor Timothy had the audacity to die before she couId teach him a Iesson. For whatever twisted reason, she despised him. She's no mother, she's a monster.
Karma wiII catch up to her in the decades she wiII have to constantIy have to Iook over her shouIder and wonder when it's coming. Prison justice.
Anyone who thinks that's just in movies hasn't spent much time in a prison. I worked in one and we had an inmate who SA'd young teens.
He had an unfortunate accident where he feII going up some cement steps when someone behind him bumped into him a bit hard. Oops, how very cIumsy of him 🤫 We aII knew what happened and how he Iost some teeth eating cement.
But the warden, asst warden and white shirts didn't know or weren't saying. So no one was punished. Corrections officers have chiIdren too and don't Iike peopIe who harm them so deIiberateIy and sadisticaIIy.
I find it especially heinous, that she is an educated woman without mental illness, who made a conscious decision to torture a child!
right, and that doesn't make the whole "make mental health tests required for gun purchases!" hold up well, does it...
Not all criminals are idiots, not all criminals are mentally ill.
Without mental illness? I'd say someone who could do these things has to be mentally ill in one way or another. Sane, sober, moral & prudent people do not behave or do things like this. .But I agree with you nonetheless.
A personality disorder at the very least.
@@SoulsOfAmarth the church shooter this past year in Germany (6 fatalities) had no mental illness. Germany has the leftist-cheered mental health tests before buying a gun, and the guy still passed and got the gun. Not all criminals are insane, and mental illness is not a good determining factor for people committing crimes
There's no disorder no mental illness shes perfectly normal and perfectly EVIL!
Blaming the abuse on her older son! Horrible woman! Neglect and abuse to both sons!
She's a narcissistic, evil rat!
I think what's more likely is the older son would sexually abuse the 15 Yr Old and was caught doing it and she a victim of abuse blamed not her one son but the other or non of this makes any sense
@@-Indyfan007she's blaming Paul because she wants out of prison. That's all. She wants freedom. And Paul's the only one she can try and pin the blame on.
Why are you making up scenarios in your head that there is no evidence of. And saying it is the only thing that makes sense. Absolutely ridiculous.
@@-Indyfan007That's pretty thin cloth to design that whole scenario from.
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Saying yes sir and being very mannerly after torturing your child is crazy
Notice how she answers questions with some anger and too much authority, so I am convinced she hurt her two boys, she is deranged beyond repair. What a sick person
Yes. Major
Authority and assuredness. But can’t remember a damn thing when the state questions her.
Imagine things she may have pulled on the cases she was involved in. If she will treat a kid like that how would she treat someone she thought was a criminal or deserves it.
Just her behavior and demeanor in a case where your child has been killed is all you need to know to tell she’s guilty.
@@brianhanley2933 damn. I was so caught up in THIS tragedy that it ever occurred to me what she may have done! You are right!!! All her cases need review.
Me too. She is capable of torture and murder.
The fact that she seems like a smart person actually makes this even more horrific, works against her.
Yes tbh after heating her son testify, and the deceased had mental impairment so I assumed it was a family trait.
This is far more chilling.
She’s a terrible actress. Shame on her for throwing Paul under the bus
Yes your ritht
goes to show that evil can live right next door and be standing beside us in the grocery store.
She’s acting
She has enough intellect to pass a bar exam,graduated kum laude, literally works for a judge,but cant seem to figure out how to obtain school records or medical help or how to keep a completely healthy boy alive, 😢😢
This!!!!!
Unfortunately, emotional intelligence is very different than intellectual intelligence. Seems she lacked all emotional intelligence skills needed to not abuse a child.
Obtaining school records, figuring it out requires intellectual intelligence,medical help, or child care help, she has it but did not use it.. or won’t
the unabomber had a higher IQ than Stephen Hawking.... The smarter guy was a terrorist who killed people, the dumber guy won tons of awards and was famous worldwide.
Intelligence does not mean you will be a good person.
THAT is exactly what I was thinking.
She remembers everything about a dog but nothing about her son's torture? Suuuuure!
She's so ABSOLUTELY confident in so many things ,then has a complete void of awareness when it comes to others.
I HATEEEEE seeing horrible people fake cry over killing their kid yet have no tears! It doesn’t look real at all!!!
They cry not for the child but for the fact they are caught
Fake crying and fake vomiting. I really didn’t watch that part cuz I have a queasy stomach but I’m sure it was fake as hell. She knew what her son looked like when he died. And what’s up with waiting 18 minutes to call 911? She was waiting for him to die.
I like the way she looks at the jury to make sure they notice she is crying
It’s the Amanda Heard effect. THE Jussie Smollett effect is where you continually lie about the obvious facts/truth.
Yes on the police officers video camera from that morning she was acting it up and she was not a good actress at all!! She went from sobbing with no tears to calmly answering his questions. It was so obvious to the officer that something was up!
She can't sleep, remember the abuse and neglect, but passed the bar exam. Im praying the jury sees through her 🐂💩 and blaming her older son for this?? 🤬 she is despicable
Timothys ribs were visible through his skin according to the coroner.... yet she had no idea he was starving... her eyes weren't functioning.... she has all these "diagnoses" for herself, and not one visit to the dr for her son. What a piece of work. No wonder she did not have custody...book smart, but brain dead and soulless.
it’s funny she can’t remember texting but remembers how much he weighed on Mother’s Day
And she was able to have a good enough memory to work, train dogs, drive a car and torture her son to death. 20% sick 80% evil (maybe 100% evil)
When you withhold food from any child, you deserve HELL!!!! I went through severe abuse as a child. This brings it all back. Whew!!! This woman is COLD & EVIL. I see it in her eyes. I'm thankful the jury saw her just as she is, guilty.
I suffered abuse as a child also… it brings it all back for me also.
The text messages alone convict her. She really sat there line she was innocent. She said he “passed away” .. he didn’t pass away! He was tortured to death!
Agree 💯
Yes, noticed that obfuscation “passed away” instead of tortured to death!
Her actions on Timothy’s final night weren’t her “insomnia.” She was accomplishing the final chapter of her son’s prolonged TORTURE❗️❗️
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And training Paul exactly how to enforce her wicked schemes so she could pass the blame onto him❗️
We don’t factor another aspect of people: the spirit. Some behavior is EVIL! 👺
😢 poor boy needed loving parents
Exactly 😢
I am so glad that they are not allowing her to hide behind a diagnosis of disassociation if she’s not been clinically diagnosed by a doctor that specializes in mental health.
I just listened to some of her jail calls that were before the trial and she literally tells someone that she read about disassociation being linked with PTSD while she was doing research she was never told by anyone that she had PTSD or disassociation she just read it and thought that sounds good so thats when she started saying it. I cant believe her defence attorney is stupid enough to try to say that she has it with no reference from any medical practitioner and then he tries to argue that its the same as someone saying they were intoxicated, complete moron. She is pure evil just evil.
She had so little sleep because she spent every minute making sure tim didnt sleep.. disgusting monster.
they slept better than she did though🙄
She says she was barely awake and can't remember if she went down to check on him when he fell out of bed at 5:30 AM, but she only got an hour of sleep
Taking the stand in her own defense made ppl love Timothy more & hate her more
She couldn’t squeeze out even a drop of tear for her murdered son.
Well she didn’t care about him to begin with.
It's giving Amber Heard vibes. She probably watched the trial and took notes !
THIS trial takes the cake. Shes thee most dangerous of them all thus far. What a piece of work. Justice is to do to her what she's done to this innocent child. One ice bath, one swallow of hot sauce, she'd be crying unfaun treatment of a prisoner. We need laws that allow their punishment to be exactly what they dish out.
Agree
I completely agree!!!!!!
Amen 🙏
Yes, her and Letechia Stauch. Don't know if you heard of that one. Now that was horrible as well
Exactly!!!
It never ceases to amaze me how much smarter than the rest of us defendants who testify in their own defence are. She doesn’t always remember what she did but what Paul did she remembers clearly.
She kept shaking her head “no” a lot when he’d say she directed him to do xyz.
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But she reads her own texts so “I don’t remember” isn’t going to fly.
We don’t factor in another aspect of people: the spirit. Some behavior is EVIL! 👺
Excellent point. And I didn't see one tear, even when she "vomited" on the stand.
Excellent point!
It's called "selective memory"
The way she didn't encourage him "taking things apart" & instead punished him is so sad. He was trying to learn. He could have been a mechanic.. who knows now. What a sick excuse for a "mother" 🤮
Hope she rots in jail & they forget to feed her..
My nephew always took things like clocks apart and sometimes couldn’t put them back together. He’s a real handyman now and worked for a locksmith
I hate to see her just pick up the bottle of water and drink...
I'm sure Timothy would have loved to have a bottle of water after she feed him hot sauce...
I don't care how much trouble Timothy was, she could have turned him over to the states.
I know she is really annoying me with the bottle of water
If he was as much trouble as everyone who testified says he was, then he's honestly better off gone. Kids with severe behavioral issues who are given to foster care almost never end up ok. They basically end up with permanent psychological trauma from being abandoned, and they often get abused by the foster parents since they can't handle them either. Very few foster parents are truly qualified to care for kids like Timothy.
Sounds like if the kids were raised by someone other then the parents, they would've grown up normal. Chaotic home life causes the issues those kids were diagnosed with
She was never supposed to have him, i believe her rights were terminated..the father should have put him in states custody..it was obvious she was an abuser when the kids were initially removed from her. There is a daughter as well, the father sent to Timothy to his death..he should be charged too
@@Adelicowsyour comment is a reflection of your mental instability. Hopefully you never have children. You're a danger.
She looks genuinely terrifying as a person.
Looks like she chewed off part of her hair
Just imagine her face looking at that poor boy calling him stupid her eyebrows are evil
Yeah she kinda reminds me of miss trunchbull from Matilda
For real, she reminds me of Kathy Bates from that movie Misery
@@shootingstar987omg for real😭
I have a 26 yo nonverbal autistic daughter. She has a very hard time falling asleep and staying asleep. A lot of autistic individuals have this same problem. He wasn’t purposefully staying up all night to keep them from sleeping. If she didn’t have all those alarms then she wouldn’t be woke up by him. I hope she is given street justice in prison everyday.
Doubtful. I was in jail with a girl who held her 4 month old baby down so her bf could SA it. I asked why no one was distributing street justice, and was informed no one wants to add to their time. It's understandable, but I really hope someone cares more about this boy than their sentence length.
@@charleneblack2792why didn't you distribute street justice?🤨🤔
@@charleneblack2792 you were in jail tho. Not prison right?
The child’s reaction sounds like one of needing help, calling out for help… unable to sleep! Unable to eat. Neglected in the day… desperately needing support & care. Her reaction- make things into a prison camp - so so sad. Of course … maybe she tried on a handful of occasions ‘does he want to play basketball? - no ‘ if any of that is true. Of course parenting is hard but it’s a cold calculating harsh nature so different from encouraging & supportive not fit for parenting. The neglect is what is worrying & absolutely no understanding about human emotions, wellbeing or love itself. I don’t doubt that for many who abuse it’s an outlet from their own inadequacies often fuelled from their own experiences of neglect & controlling vs nurturing wellbeing with care but there is always a choice & this choice is conscious regardless of any… circumstance the choice between hurting another human being & not, not watching another suffer like this & between being good & evil & taking the law into your own hands versus truth & justice should any person teach themselves this. Criminals of abuse should not be allowed to walk away freely. Sure look after & train a dog but you live in a dirty place - asking for help, your health comes before your pride, your family & their health should always come first not sick dirty punishments to control & manipulate. I don’t think these people look at their own flesh & blood as human. So sad because it’s all a choice & this pain can be so easily avoided. It’s needed these criminals know they are not above the law itself. The law is there to protect us especially those who are most vulnerable such as children with special needs. It’s not just the case of phycopaths it’s the case of why we continue to have a generation of them - the system has failed many in not educating & providing the support needed for those with the inabilities to make healthy decisions. For example the ego possibly around for reaching out to get help for your child vs neglect & abuse. Shame is possibly the culprit & thus these people make poor decisions based on maintaining control. We need new parts of any governmental system that encourage self awareness, educate on abuse & support parents & community in general. It’s a reflection of our times the sickness that exists & will do unless we find ways to address with law & order & support at large I think. This only highlights the severity of one isolated case on a hugely affected population of varying degrees of cases & this is only the tip of the iceberg. I hope the more that is exposed the more we will see something needs to happen in order to help families, & individuals affected by all of these things. It’s a political thing that needs addressing when it comes to social care, abuse & mental health as a whole.
Gawd! Her drinking water pizzezz me off! Her son was starved to death! And the way she drinks, looks over at the jury, and then squishes her mouth and lips also puts me over the edge. 😂
I can’t stand the look of her, a adult woman with long plaits and a mouth like a cats bum
She explained chronic insomnia and how hard that was for her but she wouldnt allow her child to sleep and would throw ice water buckets on him and hand cuffed him in uncomfortable positions so he would never had one moment of peace.
That poor child, made to sleep in the basement, with only a blue tarp. And hot sauce. That poor boy. His suffering is over and he is in the arms of the Angels. 😢
Barely functioning, but excelling at work ? Working in a court house for judges ? And not able to think clearly ? Perhaps they should of thought of a different line of defense. This one is clearly not working. Those poor children. Heartbreaking
Along these same lines, she has no money to pay her bills but she has an Iphone and an apple watch. She has enough money to put cameras in her house but does not have time to monitor them-even on her lunch break? She is as full of it as Casey Anthony
How does she manage to hold a job or do her work if she has black outs and can't remember. Why wasn5 she fired because she can't remember
She stated that the medication he came to her with turned him into a zombie and it was “horrifying” ??she also says they didn’t have money to afford beyond their household needs, but has money to be getting leg shackles, zip ties, and special extra hot hot sauce? And blaming all of the abuse on her son..The audacity of this testimony. None of the math is mathing
She also didn't take him to the doctors to get him the meds. With her education she didn't have the means to go on-line for help. Her water drinking alone tells me she is lying in my opinion.
And an Apple Watch?
@@Rebecca-1111yes! Water drinking like that absolutely indicates lying!
And all the cameras and alarms
@@tracyreed1857and an iPhone
She knew her son Paul had anger issues and that he was harsh with Timothy, yet she gives him complete charge of his care when she’s gone? 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah that was very strange. She may be intellectually smart i.e. school smart but lots of the stuff she says is contradictory and makes no sense.
The ex husband should be help accountable for giving this poor child back to her. She’s an evil monster.
Agreed
ok karen.
@theJewsareGodschosenwrong. Her husband knew she wasn't allowed NEAR those kids and this is what he did-? Did he ever check in on his son??
She lost custody. She shouldn't have even had her kids in her care. If he wouldn't have let her have him, Timothy would be alive today
The father gave him to her and he was healthy and chubby and taking his meds and that's according to her so I don't understand how you came to that conclusion
The fact that she thinks people are believing what she is saying is delusional….she can pass a bar exam but can’t get her son enrolled in school and be seen by a doctor…yea sounds believable!
Right!! She's full of shit!
I literally just said that. This is insanity. How is it that you worked in a court house and didn’t know or find out what papers to file to help your son?
Lots of educated people homeschool, lots of educated people don't take their kids to the doctor unless they are sick or have a medical issue.
@@fgarrison2910but she’s claiming he did have medical issues. And that’s not what op said. She can graduate and get a scholarship for law school clerk for a judge but can’t figure out how to enroll her son in school? The fact is she didn’t want him in public school. She was a neglectful parent to all her children and didn’t raise them except g. I’m sure he was neglected as well. She was a shyte mother who shouldn’t have had any children in her care.
this is now the second case that has been live streamed of a child with limited capacity that has been killed by a parent. This absolutely disgusting. I can't even imagine the horror her child went through.
Get ready for a third. The parents of Lacey Fletcher have been indicted for second degree murder. She was the autistic girl that was found melted into the couch and weighed less than 100 lbs. Coroner estimated she sat on that couch for 12 years. Medical neglect.
It’s awful what this woman did, but let’s remember most of us don’t have to deal w a son with the issues hers had.
I have compassion for the hell parents of non normal kids have to endure.
@@bluemoon7363you can’t honestly be sympathizing with her? She tortured and killed her son…..
@@bluemoon7363are you kidding me?!
@@bluemoon7363you should go ahead and delete this comment. It’s offensive to call children with special needs “non normal”. They are normal children. Their physical or mental capabilities may require special accommodations. None of this is an excuse for torture.
“Uncooked chicken could’ve killed him!”
But you did kill him.
If he was raiding the fridge and eating a whole bag of frozen chicken... how hungry must he have been!!!
ok
😢
That's exactly what I was thinking. No child would do that voluntarily, a toddler maybe would take one and try, but sure had enough very fast.
She is the reason why her son died. She manipulated Paul to participate in her cruelty against her son. She needs life in prison without parole, and Paul needs treatment in a psychiatric institution.
Paul deserved prison time with hopefully rehabilitation.
Even her own siblings don’t speak to her. Bring them in to testify!
It feels like there is A LOT regarding her past that isn't being brought up
She’s hateful. You can see her facial expressions and body language. She mad at the little child as she speaks. Pure evil.
not sure they need too, watch much netflix hun ??
Right haven't talked to her sisters in over 20 something yrs...wow no friends or family...speaks volumes!
The anger in her voice when she said he was "sneaky" speaks volumes.
Agree
Projection IMO.
What kind of “legal brain” doesn’t acquire child support, legal custody, and medical insurance from her ex-husband when she accepts total custody of her child?
Her parental rights were basically terminated in Oklahoma. She wasn’t supposed to be around that child, that’s why she didn’t actually seek custody of him.
Because she just wanted to get her hands on him because he came from her ex-husband. I've seen this before!
She was paying him $1000 a month for their other 4 children.
@@berr644 it's was over money? Now she has to live like a slave. Lucifer gets another one. This is why people to turn to God. The evil is all over the world.
Wow she is a real narcissist. She kills one son, and completely blames the other. Her children were taken away by court order. The ex will be in major trouble because he sent him to a death sentence with his mother. They tossed him around like trash. Talking about how smart she is in law makes her look even worse.
Blames the dead son too! Kept saying he was “sneaky” and felt that justified his torture.
No the dad will not be in trouble unless he witnesses the child being starve and tortured. You can’t punish a person for being a negligent person, and it doesn’t sound as if he knew what was going on.! He obviously washed his hands of this child also.
But his mother sure knew! She’s disgusting! She up there thinking she looks so smart, and she has an explanation for everything!!
Paul was terrified if his mother too but he knew what was going on, but didn’t say no to what she wanted in regards to hurting his brother ! She is evil all the way through !
@@hellekimery9537 did the dad have any rights to his son? oh right, he actually had full custody because her rights were stripped.
This has nothing to do with narcissism.
This is anti social personality disorder not narcissism.
Even with the cruelty in which this child died she spoke with so much anger against him. This is the devil in flesh blood.
Yes, I think she's stiII pissed that he had the nerve to die before she was done abusing him. She's no mother, she's a monster pIain and simpIe.
She got off on abusing him… I can hardly check my ring camera when there is a notification and I’m an average joe employee.. She is in court, working on cases and handing down torture instructions to Paul as she watches on camera
Shocking that someone like this could work in our legal system
no not really the more I learn about the legal system the more it truly scares me.
The legal system our governments
Our schools
Our military
Our police departments
Your next door neighbor's
They
Are everywhere
Time to see this
And call it out or we are all f#@&$*
This woman is being asked about totally horrific and inhumane treatment of her child and she’s not ashamed of that but she is concerned that someone might think she used her phone while driving. When asked about GPS and texting while in the car she makes sure to specify that she used Siri (hands free). Unbelievable.
When I saw that I yelled you gotta be kidding me, nobody gives a crap about that, it's the tracking grandma to hide the abuse you ps***o.
And to top it off she recalls clearly on that stuff!!
@@TuckFrump45 Yes, watching her remember some things but not others. Convenient.
I noticed that as well. And the drinking lots of water, as lying gives dry mouth.😢
I was thinking the same thing. Wierd
We heard the texts read (only a portion of the thousands of texts) and WE know what happened and WE know who is to blame and WE know before you moved to Michigan you abused him in Oklahoma. There are records and reports. This is a special kind of evil. And the jury knows you are responsible for his death.
Now it makes sense why she had that panic attack. The texts completely shatter her defense.
@@tewks4458 Take notice how she suddenly becomes dumb when a questioned is asked about her choice of punishments and parenting skills. It’s all Paul’s fault. It was Paul’s idea. Paul did it not me. Yes, Paul who was 19 and doesn’t have the sense God gave a turkey, but she takes his advice. Good grief! .
@cricketpie exactly. And she remembers only certain things with clarity while anything related to his abuse she conveniently can't recall.
@@cricketpie Yeah, so does she!!!!
Pool iLo@@sketch735
15 years old and wieghted 69lbs? BS. she just is evil..that poor boy
Her saying he wore baggy clothes hid his weight loss. He didn't wear clothes on his face. Everyone knows it weight loss/gain is easily seen in the face.
She's no mother, she's a monster. Period.
thx hun
Only shows emotions when it pertains to her own feelings or to manipulate those in the room. Disgusting. No one tear actually falls. Can’t remember anything but when asked about the day Timothy died, she remembers how it felt like time had slowed down, she was in shock, she was distraught, she performed cpr etc. Memory only serves in her favor. What a liar. Lock her up!
PERIOD
This is a great moment for everyone to check in with themselves and recalibrate their biases. This woman is a monster. Her education is non factor. To think a law degree somehow exonerates her from the ability to commit this heinous acts against her special needs son is absolutely ridiculous. She physically and emotionally abused her special needs child. She also abused all of her children this is not an isolated case. She has zero relationship with her only daughter and home schooled her youngest child. Abusers isolate in order to control the victim. She has a history with Child Protective Services in Oklahoma and lost custody of her other children. She is a manipulative liar hiding behind her law degree. Her son Paul will probably require intensive therapy for life. One of the most disturbing aspects of this disgusting monster is that she blames her son. She is completely emotionally detached from these children. She is completely devoid of motherly love in her language or demeanor when speaking of any of her children. The term my little man is a distancing. She is unable to my son. She actually should not only get life in prison but she should suffer the same fate her poor son.
I agree. I do have 3 kids I raised alone. I have CPTSD and I disassociate a lot. It’s staring off in space. I still know exactly what is going on; this woman is a horrible liar and a walking demon.
May her prison experience be exactly the same as her son’s tragic life.
Well said
Well said and Anen
I get you, I do, but I feel like quite the opposite - I expect it from some ppl in that profession, i.e. every single attorney on the Parkland Shooters 'team.' Takes a certain kind of low to argue on behalf of evil!
Seems like possible antisocial personality disorder. Maybe narcissistic, as well. Probably the whole trifecta.
The victim blaming, the normalisation of child torture, I have no idea why she took the stand.
its clear from her instructions in her texts to her older son that she was leading the torture on her son, Timothy. She was telling the older son what to do. Horrific. Hopefully the jury will see that. Very wicked woman. we heard the texts where she told Paul to put hotsauce on his bread and to put him in the ice bath- and to tie hs hands up -the texts reveal everything,led by her.
yep, her lawyer picked out specific moments where she didn't explicitly detail the torture. Like her telling Paul to put Timothy "in the bath", saying she never told Paul to put ice in the bath. But we all know what she was telling Paul to do. And they skipped lightly over the hand ties, only that she doesn't remember ordering them 🙄 I have faith the jury are thinking along the same lines, she coordinated all the torture.
she knew very specifically it took about 2 hours to remake ice... that poor child was on a torture schedule 😢
Her comments about the child’s coordination are disgusting , she doesn’t even seem sad .
Bigdel, you didn't see her break down, see worked so hard to muster a tear, she wasn't successful. This kid seemed to be 100% normal.
@@hank0455 Crocodile tears! Her attorney is trying his best, very poorly I might add, but you cannot defend the facts put out in this case!
That ticked me off as well. He just wanted to play! How about buying him a ball and glove and teach him? This woman is pure evil!!😢
@@hank0455 no remorse smh
But she threw up at the sight of his body 🙄
Horrific woman!
He's eating uncooked food because he is starving to death. This lady is nuts!!
Very seldom are chicken nuggets raw chicken.. they’re all precooked..nice try lady 🙄
@@lindsayloo5049 I’m referring to the mother who said raw 🙄🤦♀️
@loripeldo1964 She testified that he also ate raw hamburger and raw bacon. Why are you ignoring that part? It was in that same part of her testimony. Anyway even cooked and frozen prepared foods are dangerous if not reheated to a safe temp. Lots of germs in those food factories.
@@cosmoplakat9549she wasn’t defending her. The nuggets are cooked and she claimed it would hurt him because it was raw chicken. Nice try Shanda. 🙄
She trained dogs? Damn. I can only imagine what she would do to a helpless dog if she felt free to torture her own child in such a horrific manner. What a monster! I don't think she's helped herself by testifying. She comes across about as unlikeable on the stand as any person could.
I know this is what I thougt too
She had a dinky UA-cam channel about her dog training too.
Yes they always wait for animal abusers to kill a child to do something about it! It is sso sad how they keep giving dogs to psycopaths.
Fkk exactly!!
It's a fascinating case... but, I just can't fathom how her counsel thought it'd be a good idea for her to take the stand.She couldn't be more unlikable...
She probably insisted on testifying thinking she could outsmart everyone with her supreme intelligence.
"Little Man" reminds me of "Paw Paw." I don't think a jury is ever influenced by murderers using lovey dovey nicknames for any of their family members.
😮ha...i thought the same thing. it made me sicj when A would say that in referringto the child of his that he shot like a wild animal.
Yes! It makes me cringe! ‘Little man”. Why do you think little man was hoarding food at night? Duh, because he was being starved during the day. Unbelievable.
@@tracyreed1857 She was calling her youngest son “little man” NOT the one that she killed.
@@judymurray191 yes. I figured that out later when I listened more.
@@judymurray191 Oh either way, it is the same fake adoration that AM used when he referred to the son he brutally murdered. Fake. Contrived. Made up. Paw Paw. Ro Ro. Mags. Bus. Little man. Fake as hell
She can remember minute details about what she’s accusing her son Paul of, but can’t remember the details about anything that could incriminate her. This woman is lying her backside off.
Liars get dry mouth. She was drinking alot. My opinion just saying
but conveniently remembers how much he weighed, and the dog weighed in May.
You can tell by the way she is gabbling, that she knows she has no justification for what she has done! She also involved her other son in the treatment of this poor boy. Makes you wonder why her husband went to his parents after his stroke. Was he being abused too? I hope she gets the worst treatment in prison, the same as she meted out.
Yeah I kind of thought that too he seemed kinda helpless apparently he was in a wheelchair and then had a/as well and then he couldn't use the stairs and decided to go with his parents I think he made a good decision there I bet she was about to get life insurance on him
It’s amazing how much detail she “remembered” UNLESS there was a horrific detail about her actions. Super calculated!
She couldn’t even squeeze a single tear out 🤦🏻♀️ She tried hard though!
This is one of the most disturbing cases that I've ever heard. She is completely evil and I hope the jury throws the book at her. She doesn't deserve to be walking around free in this world.
I agree with you
Me 2
Puts me in mind of takoda collins 😢
I agree also with you what an evil woman that poor boy😞
How could she do something like this. I don't know what it's going to be like for this woman when she gets to the joint. I'm not worried about her either.
PTSD from seeing her husband after his stroke??!! Is she for real? For someone afflicted with so many disorders, she should not have been caring for young children let alone one with as many disorders as herself.
She doesn't have ptsd, it's just a lie to gain sympathy from the court in the hope of getting a lighter sentence. Disgusting monster.
@@jay-on2qy I think we all knew that from the start.
I wouldn't leave her with a houseplant. Judging, I know, but she's meant to be compos mentis, but couldn't keep a child alive.
I think she's a wrong'un & quite unsettling.
Poor, dear child 😮
She self diagnosed all her fake conditions.
She's guilty as charged. I just pray the jury sees it.
They will see the horrible photos of that poor boy!
I think they will. They are putting up a pathetic defense and the prosecutor rips her apart during cross examination.
Yep they did. Found guilty, mandatory life in prison.
I watched the verdict
@@CrazyRetiredLadyhow did you watch the verdict? I don’t think it was aired
Tim's unfortunate fate has been written since he came out from the womb of this monster. He had no chance. RIP angel Tim.
Like Jodi Arias and Amber Heard, she looks at the jury when she responds at times. Makes her look eerily guilty. She's the perfect representation of evil.
You are so right. This woman takes the cake tho. This isn't lies defamation or a relatively quick stabbing murder in an apartment. This took a long long time to turn this kid to bone.
Ezra Mccandless did the same.
She keeps looking at them, trying to see if they're buying what she is selling.
@@TheVAULTofHORROR YAAAASSSSSS!
@OrderOfTheGash 🤮
He's allowed 2 minutes to go to the toilet but she leaves him in the cold bath for hours??? EVIL 💔
When u look at her u know something is off u see the craziness in her eyes she tries to be articulate and explains wverything even the thing which doesnt need explanation this woman is 100% guilty
Plenty of parents work full time and have other life stressors. They don’t torture their children in their downtime. How much more energy did she expel by constantly monitoring him and doing all the extra stuff. Instead of just letting him eat when he wanted and go to the bathroom when he needed. How disgusting. And emergency rooms legally cannot turn away patients. She could have went to the emergency room every month and gotten Timothy meds. She is a monster.
Her intelligence tells me that she has severe control issues, then I found out she trained dogs , and that said it all, she gets power from controlling pets and kids. It’s not so much sadism as it is a power struggle and her being in complete control of a human being , especially one that had ADHA and would have been naturally defiant .
YES...this is what I take away from listening to the case and her testimony!
I’m sure he wasn’t as disabled as she chooses to portray. Who uses torture to improve behavior?
And she clearly believes ahe is smarter than everybody else, hence her elaborate explanations aka lies! Her constant quick glances at the jurors says it all.
Power struggles to this extent is a form of sadism
Dog trainers who use punishment think they can improve the poor animals' behavior; instead they control the dogs by frightening/ torturing them.@@Grammichal
She was concerned about the effects of so much medication on the child, but not the effects of starvation, hypothermia and torture?? And I don't know of any case where someone with Dissociative Disorder tortured their child to death. And how can you be a lawyer with such severe and unpredictable memory problems?
Completely agree.
Exactly
My thoughts as well
The lowest of lows for a "mother" who blatantly tortured her son to death, to place blame on her other son!! Disgusting! You can't fool the jury! . The greatest judgement will come when you stand before your maker!!
RIP sweet Timothy❤️🛐🪦
no , her judgement will come when the other prisoners find out why she,s in prison !!!
If she is so intelligent and working for a judge how in the world does she think she is going to get away with torturing and killing her son😢??
You can see how much she loves talking about herself even if its about bad stuff. Its all about her and how clever she is. Frightening.
Coz she’s a narc
Alison, I don't think she loves talking about herself, she's actually lying. Liars always give way too much information to distract you from thinking about the horror of it all.
She thinks she's getting away with it. She acts like this is normal behaviour. It's gross.
I have chronic insomnia due to chronic pain. It doesnt make me do ANYTHING bad to my family. Grrrrr.
There’s a coldness in her demeanor that is especially alarming.
Man....the eyes certainly are the windows to the soul, as they say. I can see the crazy darkness. Disturbed, cruel, dillusional wickedness
I can see it too.
Absolutely, honestly this person is very frightening to me
Yes! I was thinking the same thing, and the way she is quick to answers all questions with such force!
Yes. The eyes and even the weird texture of her face. The way she pulls her mouth when talking. She is cruel and has been for a long time.
Incapable of empathy
So she can afford an Apple Watch but can't afford to pay off a broken iPad from the school?
How was she homeschooling when she was out of the house for 12 hours a day?
I was wondering the same thing.
All online, I imagine.
Excellent point.
Paul?
Any time a person says “honestly”, you know a lie is about to be told.
This is totally not true,I have used the word honestly at different times because there are so many people that lie,I use the honesty to stress that I most definitely am not lying,as it seems the majority are liars and I am being totally honest,all though I once remember an attorney telling me not to use the honest when speaking as it used often by liars, I say honestly to express that I am being honest in a world of liars and I do not lie,I cannot stand liars!! totally
Can't believe she's taking the stand. She's not very likable already but her face and lack of emotion is two more strikes against her.
I was thinking the same thing.
Her lawyer should just stop practicing because he is horrible 😅
@@yukikowu5695he's awful
So she can blame it on her sons. Even on Timothy because his behavior.
Another Amber 👎🏼
This woman genuinely thinks she can just explain away every situation of it being everyone else's fault....she thinks she's about to get away with murder.
I’m wondering if this behaviour flies w anyone @ all? How does anyone get to this age, & still think they can totally snow a judge & jury! It blows my mind! 🤯
I think every time this woman opens her mouth she's telling a lie
Not her using her pregnancy cravings for hot sauce as an excuse to use hot sauce for discipline omgggggg. This woman deflecting makes me so sick
The hot sauce method is very common among conservative Christians. The very school she attended (Liberty University) is an evangelical school and was founded by Jerry Falwell. He’s known for teaching and supporting these abusive punishments. She’s such a bad liar and makes me sick to my stomach to know that this happens more than we think.