@@Mr.NiceGuy1986 yeah, you can always tell somebody who dosnt own one, and watches MILD, those of us who have used arc, tend to have a very different view then those who just hear/watch about it... and, arc is still far from fully optimized driver wise, some titles still benefit greatly from dxvk-gplasync and dgvoodoo2 type wrappers, less and less needed.. something i notice is that frame times have become far more solid without any wrappers being needed, even vs amd and nvidia in some titles..more so amd.. hell watch the frame time graph in a few fairly close titles.. arc even if a bit lower in fps is going to feel smoother with the tighter frame times... its why some people i know moved to lower tier nvidia products from top end amd products not so many years ago.. they may have gotten lower max fps, but the stability of fps was just way better.. i have had this Acer Predator Bifrost A770 16gb for almost a year now and.... im on an old x299 system thats "not supported"...i mean if i tossed 10th gen it would be but.. why would i want to spent 10th gen money when im running a delidded 7980xe@4.6ghz? that i got for 267shipped... :) anyway, yeah i love my card, got 5 buddies who followed me and only one had some issues, and it was resolved with a fresh windows install.. as even ddu couldnt seem to remove the old amd and nvidia driver spooge from the system, and that was an win7 install that was over 7 years old he upgraded to 10 then 11.. sooo.. yeah.. no shock he had some issues due to how old the base install was and all the reg bs that wasnt cleaned up before he moved from 7 to 10.. (it can work fine, buit always ddu before doing a 7 to 10/11 grade.. it will save you headaches down the road.. like reinstalling all the crap the user had installed.. that they actually needed... )
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 Found the mad AMD/Nvidia fangirl! Every comment just hate, no arguments no evidence just pure fangirl hate. Glad for the 99% of people who enjoy their Intel GPU's and the price drops which comes with this new competitor.
Well I own an Intel arc A770 16GB ASRock GPU, and it rocks. I upgraded from an rx6600 to an rx6700, and decided to return that for the arc A770 16GB as it was the same price. I went from 60 FPS with FSR at maximum quality on resident evil 4 remake. To native 4k with maxed out settings and ray tracing on getting near 60 FPS.
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 You have tunnel vision. It's gaming performance is good enough at that price and it has hardware encoder. Its a good trade off depending on your use case. If I'm going to spend that much on gpu's I want it to do something else besides gaming, otherwise it's easier to justify getting a console.
Hey Paul. As someone who truly does like MSFS2020, I sincerely appreciate you including it within your test-suite. Although I'm not look to upgrade my current rig (5700xt) I'm still glad to see it included. Keep up the good work.
I've used the A750 and like it. They are really getting better all the time at a breakneck pace to boot. But at the end of the day, I like AMD and am running an Asrock Challenger 6650XT, I nabbed it for $220 from Microcenter last week. Great card, no doubt. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either one so go for the cheapest option when buying. Happy Turky Day to you and yours Paul and Joe, try not to explode afterwards, eh? We need you 😂❤
I own an Arc a750. The drivers have improved a great deal even in the month and a half that I've had it--but yeah, the drivers and optimizations have a loooong way to go. Some games, especially older ones, play at FPS rates far below what something in the Arc's weight class should be able to achieve. The raw potential power of the a750 still makes it a compelling buy for me, and I'm hoping/expecting that there will be even more improvements in the future. For the moment, though, the 6650XT is a much safer bet, since its a more stable product. But I will say, if you like to tinker, you're okay with waiting a bit for the software to catch up to the hardware, and you want to support a third party to stick it to Nvidia (and scare AMD into actually pricing their products competitively), then the a750 is a great buy. Oh, and AV1 encoding on the cheap. AV1 is nice. Reeeeeal nice.
AMD has no incentive to price its products any more competitively than it already does. In the past it has had products that were straight-up better than Nvidia’s offerings, but gamers voted with their wallets.
When? It's been since like Maxwell that Nvidia has been winning in design. I remember back when Maxwell came out and it was so efficient plus beat AMD in gaming. All the AMDrones said "efficiency doesn't matter just max out put" 🤣.....now it's "efficiency is king" 😆..... Because AMD got lucky and Intel got lazy resting on their laurels. Meanwhile Nvidia has been kicking their can all over the place.
Why not enable all options of both cards? This way to see what the bells and whistles of both cards have to offer. Test the cards how you would set them up. As if this was your only card and you want to get the best proformas out of the card. Something different to the same old basic benchmarks.
I did something like that with the ASrock phantom gaming Arc a770 oc card even pulled out my 3090 T.I and ran the Arc in its place for a month. Currently running the Arc a770 in an old intel build its a great card that punch's well above its class even giving the 4060 T.I a run for its money and beating it in everything except ray tracing. And I don't have a need for ray tracing
Thanks for the review. Building my next 10-year gaming rig, going w/ 7600x CPU (for now), and likely 6700 XT as it's as much as I'm comfortable spending. Team Red all the way.
Let's not forget, this is Intel's 1st gen graphics card vs RDNA 2nd gen and that the Intel drivers are still being worked on. I think Intel is going to be a huge competitor in the GPU space.
@@glitter_fartSo they aren't working on improving their GPU drivers? They aren't releasing their 2nd gen GPU's branded as Battle mage next year? I guess they're just joshing us then huh
@@nicksterba. I think the problem is that the poster is cynical due to previous actions of intel. Personally, I do understand where they are coming from, but I am not sure if there is too much market beyond gaming for them to tap into to help motivate the corporation.
@@glitter_fartthey will even if they don't want to anymore because they already signed contracts with their big customers for future CPUs which will integrate a tile with Battlemage GPU. Also if this was their last GPU they would not be releasing new drivers every two weeks with tons of performance improvements. This indicates that there is a big team working hard on the driver's.
Yes, thank you. This was helpful. I'm building my first PC for gaming, streaming, and simple editing. I don't have a huge budget, and was already looking at the exact combo with the 6650xt, and both the upgrades you mentioned. I'm sold. With current prices my build comes out to $750. Thanks again, Paul. Already a big fan so I was stoked you had a video about my combo.
Been playing with the idea of building a new system around my existing 3060ti with the thought of upgrading the GPU within the next year. Thanks Paul! Always looking out for us "bang for your buck" practical folk! Really appreciate it 🤘
Thanks for using MSFS2020 in your tests! I’m starting to put a build together for 4K resolution aiming for a steady 60Hz at ultra in MSFS2020 hopefully without using frame gen
I've bought my a750 a week ago, since it's price started climbing in my country. It was still about 40 to 60$ cheaper than the fx7600, and I really wanted the hardware encoder for productivity reasons. I also have quite an aging system with AM4 and PCI3, so having 16 physical lanes mattered a lot too. I'm really happy with the card, especially that it's performance in older games wouldn't really bother me on linux anyway because of DXVK being the default method here. I do have to confirm that coil whine seems to affect all of them, my a750 almost gave me a heart attack in some games until I nervously scrambled to turn vsync on. I'm not sure if it behaves like that with every third party version, as I have the Intel "Limited edition" too.
Great video! I have the 6650 XT paired with Intel's Core i3 12100F, strictly for 1080p, non-ray tracing gaming and it performs like a champion. This combo will give you no issues with Horizon Zero Dawn, as was mentioned on the video (120 fps avg according to Radeon's Adrenaline).
I have had my A750 since launch day and honestly I have always loved the card! It has done pretty well since day one and feels very well built. And performance has been amazing to watch as it has increased overtime with drivers! I would definitely recommend it to people
I really wish you wouldn't forget about those of us who actually use a PC for work. I built a new workstation (in a beautiful Fractal North case) for use with office apps and some medium image and video editing, and the Intel A750 for $199 has been terrific. I know gaming is the primary focus here, but it would be really nice if you'd throw us a bone occasionally and remember, some PC's are still actually used for work.
Weird coincidence, I just purchased one of these PowerColor Hellhound RX 6650xt GPU's for my Ryzen 5 5600 "budget build" that already included the Lexar NM790 SSD that sponsored your video. I also noticed that I went with both of your "top-two" upgrades, going with 32GB of T-Force Vulcan 3600 RAM and a Vetroo V5 air cooler. I also upgraded that ThermalTake GXU PSU to the semi-modular 750W ThermalTake Smart BM3 PSU, because it was on sale for only $5 more & I much prefer the semi-modular flat cable layout.
I've been long term testing the ASrock phantom gaming Arc a770 oc card even pulled out my 3090 T.I and ran the Arc in its place for a month. Currently running the Arc a770 in an old (6th gen) intel build its a great card that punch's well above its class even giving the 4060 T.I a run for its money and beating it in everything except ray tracing. And I don't have a need for ray tracing
For me it was between the A770 16GB and the RX 6750xt, but leaning towards Intel more because I’m about to build a PC (again) and wanted it to be team blue gpu and cpu. However, I opted against both and opted for an older gtx 1080ti as a stand in until intel battlemage is released, that’s what I really want to try out.
I'm helping a buddy get his first PC in like over a decade and the RX 6650 XT was the best value GPU of choice on the new market for his budget. Very excited to get it put together within the next week or so!
Yes, I am right in the midst of building a new gaming/video rendering PC. HOWEVER - I am using only USED parts. That is my window into an overpowered beast on a budget... 1. Case: NZXT S340 Mid Tower - modded with two dual 120mm grills from Amazon (very high quality, only $16.99 ea.). Dremel cutouts on top and front of case,.allows for push-pull 240 Rad in front for CPU AIO, and two 120mm intake fans on top. 2. Used Corsair 1000w fully modular PSU 3. MSI X99A SLI Plus socket 2011-3 motherboard with NVMe m.2 and up to eight sticks of quad channel RAM 4. Intel Xeon E5-2696 v3 CPU - a custom variant of the same 2699 v3. The standard Xeon has a turbo boost of 3.6GHz, while the custom version has a boost clock of 3.8GHz. Version 3 Xeons can have turbo boost unlocked on all cores via a BIOS injection mod. This enables 3.8GHz on all 18 cores and 36 threads on this chip. 5. nVidia RTX 3080 FE with the copper plate VRAM mod 6. nVidia GTX 980 Ti EVGA Hybrid (120mm Rad) - for separate OBBS capture, and for DVI-I analog output to CRT for full analog retro gaming 7. WiFi/Bluetooth PCIe add-on card 8. Dual NVMe m.2 drives PCIe add-on card 9. 1 x 512Gb Samsung 950 Pro NVMe SSD system drive (on MB) 10. 2 x 2Tb Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD working drives (refurbished) 11. 1 x 10Tb HGST HDD storage drive (Helium-filled) 12. 64Gb Machinist 2133 ECC DDR4 Quad Channel RAM 13. Approx. 8 120mm fans (already own) PC Case, Motherboard, RAM, WiFi Card, PSU, SSD = $400 CPU = $40 Custom Vents, NVMe Add-on Card = $44 2 x 2Tb SSD + 1 x 10Tb Drive = $270 nVidia RTX 3080 FE + Copper Mod/Thermal Paste = $420 nVidia GTX 980 Ti Hybrid = $100 Total = $1274 Total System: 18 Core/36 Thread @ 3.8GHz, 2-GPU w/RTX 3080 FE, 4.5Tb SSD, 10Tb Storage, 1000w, WiFi/Bluetooth, 64Gb RAM = $1274 Might want to double-check my math. But that's my streaming/rendering/gaming build. This will be my first PC since 2015, making some big changes and hoping to get into streaming with an old friend. Want to be ready, because I'm not doing this again for a while. This build started around the CPU. It has a massive 45Mb L3 cache - nearly double that of any desktop CPU. The E5-2699 v3 is a well known CPU. The E5-2696 was a custom variant, made for a single vendor, and not found on ark.intel. The only difference I could find is the higher boost clock on the custom version. And with the ability to unlock turbo boost on all 18 cores (this is a v3-chip series mod only), it becomes a workhorse. It's not exactly a 4.4GHz turbo i9-9980XE, but that's a $600+ chip right now at the end of 2023. Then there is the cost of an x299 motherboard. The Xeon cannot be overclocked. Though to overclock the i9, it requires some very extravagant cooling - a 360 Rad. minimum. Just 600MHz less, at 3.8GHz, I can use my current AIO and save both money and space. I've wanted to downsize from my Corsair 800D Obsidian for forever. Getting all of this hardware into a mid tower case is, to me, a revelation. I'm pulling a JayzTwoCents case mod, just cutting open the front and top for maximum airflow. He pointed to the grills for additional fans that are really well made. I might even cut a hole for a DVD drive as well, just to be different. I want the PC to look dated and not that great, no giveaway to what's inside. But I might be most excited by the water-cooled GTX 980 Ti. I've got both a 17-inch CRT monitor in storage, as well as a very fresh Sony CRT television that will be perfect for some retro gaming. I was already past college when Quake 3D and Doom came out. I completely remember the feel of zero input lag when blasting aliens on a little 15-inch monitor. It'll be great to pump out those instantaneous frames on a big, 27-inch Sony TV in crisp, electron-beam glory. So, that's my build. A beefy, 18 core Xeon and a 3080 FE for raw processing grunt, with some fun custom touches. Some will surely mock the 2133NHz DDR4, but it's not in dual channel, it's in quad channel, so 2133 is really like 4266MHz. I'm not worried that it'll be slow or outdated. Right now I'm just waiting on AliExpress for some deliveries....
I got my 6650xt for $275 last November, been totally worth it upgrading from a 1060 6gb. amd's adrenalin is pretty good and I think I've gotten more than 50$ worth of use out of it. The worst part is not being able to use RT in cyberpunk without a massive FPS cut but hopefully it will get FSR 3 ... someday ... but otherwise it's pretty good for 1440p and would be a lot better if I upgrade to a 5800x3d from my 3600. However I might just hold onto the money and save for a new build, hopefully with a 7800x3d.
Biggest problem for me is the ReBAR requirement - I’d love to upgrade my kids’ cards with a cheap and cheerful GPU, but upgrading the whole shebang to enable ReBAR isn’t in the cards. Looking forward to Battlemage, though!
I always keep these videos in the back of my mind when people ask me for build advice. This seems like a great build for kids getting their first gaming PC.
After one year with my A770, I switched to a 7800 XT. Now everything works, no more workarounds, no more bugs, no more headaches. VR, RPCS3, games that stopped working, my mental sanity... They're all back in business. Intel GPU are fine if you mostly play DX12 games. As as bonus, with Intel you get a new friend that you will learn to love and hate : DXVK
Where I live there is a TAX on items over $200. The tax is not just on the amount over $200, but on the TOTAL PRICE. That results in a roughly $80 price difference between the two cards compared. The whole world does not live in the USA.
I'm doing a $700 pc right now. I just have some more freedom since I'm providing the PSU and the case outside of the components. So I was able to upgrade a little bit. 5600x + 6700xt, 16MB 3200c16, 1TB nvme gen 3, sticking with the stock cooler, but the case is an o11-D with 6 fans that I'm also throwing in, so that much airflow in there should help with the cooling. In the case of your query about your GPUs, I'd probably stick with the AMD side in this debate because of their reliability and up-to-date drivers... Maybe Intel will make something spectacular some day; then I'll take a closer look at their product. Took me a while to warm up to AMD GPUs too... used to have a lot of bad luck with them. Then, with the 4000 series, Nvidia basically alienated me for life... now rocking a 7900XT (from a 3090), and I'm so much happier.
Paul, thanks for testing Flight Simulator, I don't play it, but nice to see. As for a $40 difference, if a $40 difference in price is negligible to a person for the GPU, they should be going for a tier up or current generation. To me, I can afford the $40 easily, but would see the difference as very compelling for the A750 or the RX7600 at about $240 this weekend.
Thank you for doing this comparison Paul. For as much optimization that comes out in the news for Intel's Arc GPUs, there hasn't seemed to be a recent update from any techtubers regarding its performance (to be fair these updates come out almost weekly it seems like). I'm interested to see how Intel's lower market price GPUs compare to the likes of AMD. Maybe at some point Nvidia can step back into this price slot...
6650's pretty nice. A750's pretty nice. Get whatever's on sale! Each have their downsides (software capturing on Intel's annoying, software capturing on AMD's desynched audio/video, etc). I will say most complaints regarding drivers and performance for Intel Arc have melted away, all my time with the a380 and a750 have been by and large blissful. If you can get a used/open box a750 for the 150-160 mark, you will 110% be thrilled with price to performance.
picked up the A-750 on cyber Monday for a crazy $179 new two days later it was back up to $229 sold and shipped at Newegg stuck in my budget back up system with a R5 7600 and 32 gig ddr 5 4800 ram and it scores 11333 on 3d mark and seems to run every game I toss at it great on my 27" 1080P 240hz screen very happy with it ...main gaming rig is 7800x3d with 7900xtx but wanted to also know how Intel is doing so decided on the A-750 for back up system well because I like knowing all the players and how they work :-) daughter has a 13400 system with Nvidia 3060 12 gig so I get to play with them all now and have a real opinion and wow Intel ARC and it drivers are nothing to shy away from any more ...a year ago i got the little A-380 so i have been tinkering with it for a wile and for a good it it was quite buggy but today I say if it is a better deal for the performance go for it Intel has worked very hard and it is paying off and I cant wait to see what they offer next .. :-)
Thanks for the update on Intel's card. I so hope they keep at it. I been thinking about a budget all intel build. Been an AMD user from the first 286 to 386 upgrade I made long past. This might be my black friday deal build.
I have been watching all kinds of budget guides lately. We are building a computer for my dad, and I have been bouncing between something like this and an I5 13600K and just using the integrated graphics. since all he does is play UA-cam videos and maybe some Football games.
These videos are great. You can build a sick little rig this black friday. Since the first video a bit ago, where you built it, I built a pc, inspired by this machine. Same case, which I think is sleek, and I kept it all intel.
Thanks for making this video. I especially appreciate how you break down the upgrade suggestions in the description section. I am not sure that the Arc would be for me. I appreciate the lower price but not the lower specs. Happy Thanksgiving.
specs aren't lower. Hardware encoding, AI, RT. You compromise on some performance for more features. At this price point, I'm looking to be introduced to the new features. It has to work well enough for me to feel the benefits of these features so that when then next gen of gpu's come around I can determine if it's worth it to pay for these features when it matures. If this card can last 2 years, it's done its job.
I think I would just save and up the CPU as much as possible. I did this in 2012 and am still running the 3930k for 1080 gaming coupled with a 1070 (oldie machine) and it does fine. That's good value for money long term. which does me just fine. When GTA VI drops I'll probably do a new build and these ARC cards are looking excellent. Imagine being around for only 18 months and killing it like this (despite a bit of a driver hiccup).
Thanks again for this content. As I commented in the first half of the video, this is extremely pertinent to me since I’m collecting parts to build a system with my daughter on Christmas! I’m still really torn, and considering the a750. However, for me, the decision is between that and the 6600. Since they have pretty good price, parity, and both are in my sub $200 budget target , I’m still finding it difficult to decide which one to pick in the $180-190 range. I do get your point that the 6650XT is a much better performer , but I’m really not looking to go above the $200 mark, and I don’t need to hit that higher performance level, since eventually, my daughter will be getting a hand-me-down 3070 in the system instead. Either way, thanks for the food for thought, and have a very happy Thanksgiving!
I been trying to see some budget around $500 wanting to see options to build one for my fiance for Christmas she like gaming but not so hard. This one look awesome but is out of my budget lol
I'd like to build a mini ITX system next year, and I'm looking at an all Intel build - 13700 paired with an ARC GPU. I'm really curious about them, and as much as I hate Intel being a money hungry juggernaut, I think the space needs more competition. Intel won't make more ARC if people aren't buying them.
For comparison, I built a similar system recently having TimeSpy results pushing a 10k overall score. The MB, GPU, and NVME were the only new parts and purchased within the past year for around $500. I suspect the difference maker in TimeSpy score from Paul’s findings is the 1080p and maybe hardware I will list at the end… Cooler Master Storm Scout case; Ryzen 3600; Wraith cooler w a 2004 Dell copper core heat sink sandwiched between Wraith fan and stock heat sink; MSI B550M pro-vdh Wi-Fi MB; Micron 2x8 GB DDR4 3200 memory; Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME ssd; Antec 550W PWS (circa 2011); Samsung S27D360H 1080p monitor; and lastly… PowerColor Hellhound RX 7600
Paul, this is one of the best video you have created for $700 budget build. I like your setup but here is my configuration that I have chosen. For CPU, I would go with go with New cheaper Ryzen 5500x3D when ever comes out or 5600x3D for $229.99, for GPU for $20 more I would go with Radeon RX 7600 for $249.99 this will provide me more FPS in gaming. I would go with remaining components.
Amazingly my kid upgraded his R5 3600 to a 5700X today (bought yesterday on Amazon) The 5700X was 3 Canadian Pesos cheaper than the 5600X! Which was the original plan.
My buddy is building his new gaming rig but he's on a very strict budget: no more than $500 if he wants to stay married. I've donated a Corsair 750w PSU, memory and a case so mainboard, CPU and GPU have to hit those marks. The $40 dollar difference between the two cards is huge in a case like this so I'm hoping he goes for the Arc card and puts the savings into a better motherboard. Great video Paul, just what I needed to see.
I know it seems a bit of an up-sell, but the RX 7600 is just around $230- $250 and will also give you AV1 if that's a Feature that interests you? Prices at the Low end seem to bouncing around daily!!
This video was incredibly helpful! As someone who is building his “first” gaming pc soon and has a budget of around $1200, I’d love so see a video covering your ideal build in that price range. I’m thinking 7600X/RX7800XT, but like seeing other perspectives!
Allow me to direct you to last month's build! ua-cam.com/video/XrRVC6nSNM8/v-deo.html It was a $1200 system, but I delivered it quickly so there's not a follow-up testing part. But that's about what I'd recommend for $1200 right now Edit: oh yeah the link
I like to see how the Asus Phoenix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 V2 Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Axial-tech Fan Design, Protective Backplate, Dual Ball Fan Bearings, Auto-Extreme) against those two gpus
Just bought the arc a750 off amazon for 179.99$ and it came with assains creed mirage which is a 49.99$ game so I got this card for 130$. At that price there was no choice. :)
@paul - huge fan, been watching since the earliest days! You have helped me build half a dozen machines or more over the years. First build for my just turned 13 year old daughter who loves Minecraft and CoD and wants to get into pc gaming. Is this the build I want for Christmas for her?
PowerColor is never gonna be as big as Intel but the GPU it makes are quite okay IMO. At least, the GPU making process/methodology PowerColor is using, is quite impressive.
i just ordered a750 as a video out and very rare gaming. 180 euros and free ac mirage. 6650xt is 220 euros without game. price performance is nearly same so why not
I'm a huge RX 6000 fan but Id still go ARC.. probably an A750 uniless I could find a 580 for 140 or less then Id go that route. 256-bit mem bus I do think will help ARC age better than the 128 bit 6650.
That extra money could improve other areas of the build. More / faster storage or ram for example or a better processor. I like both of these cards and I think on a budget build you would be happy with either.
Finally going to upgrade from my rx580 (yeah, about 6 years old now) and leaning towards the RX6700 instead, although you've got me curious about the 6650 now...
Recently put together a pc with an arc a770 and I was experiencing stuttering in AC: Mirage . Frame count was all over the place. Turned out to be because I had scale at 300% in display options. Put it to 100% and it fixed it. I'm perfectly happy with the gpu so far but I haven't made it through every game I own yet.
Arc's performance journey since pre-launch has been truly amazing. Hats off to the driver team.
I love my 770 LE its a beast. been using on my 4k tv always 60 fps in games I play.
It WAS crap, It IS crap, and will always be CRAP !
even Battlemage will be another DISASTER !
ooooooooookay @@gertjanvandermeij4265
@@Mr.NiceGuy1986 yeah, you can always tell somebody who dosnt own one, and watches MILD, those of us who have used arc, tend to have a very different view then those who just hear/watch about it...
and, arc is still far from fully optimized driver wise, some titles still benefit greatly from dxvk-gplasync and dgvoodoo2 type wrappers, less and less needed..
something i notice is that frame times have become far more solid without any wrappers being needed, even vs amd and nvidia in some titles..more so amd.. hell watch the frame time graph in a few fairly close titles.. arc even if a bit lower in fps is going to feel smoother with the tighter frame times... its why some people i know moved to lower tier nvidia products from top end amd products not so many years ago.. they may have gotten lower max fps, but the stability of fps was just way better..
i have had this Acer Predator Bifrost A770 16gb for almost a year now and.... im on an old x299 system thats "not supported"...i mean if i tossed 10th gen it would be but.. why would i want to spent 10th gen money when im running a delidded 7980xe@4.6ghz? that i got for 267shipped... :)
anyway, yeah i love my card, got 5 buddies who followed me and only one had some issues, and it was resolved with a fresh windows install.. as even ddu couldnt seem to remove the old amd and nvidia driver spooge from the system, and that was an win7 install that was over 7 years old he upgraded to 10 then 11.. sooo.. yeah.. no shock he had some issues due to how old the base install was and all the reg bs that wasnt cleaned up before he moved from 7 to 10.. (it can work fine, buit always ddu before doing a 7 to 10/11 grade.. it will save you headaches down the road.. like reinstalling all the crap the user had installed.. that they actually needed... )
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 Found the mad AMD/Nvidia fangirl! Every comment just hate, no arguments no evidence just pure fangirl hate. Glad for the 99% of people who enjoy their Intel GPU's and the price drops which comes with this new competitor.
Further evidence Paul understands the PC building audience better than any other tech media member
Not really ! Since he suggest an CRAPPY Intel Arc GPU !!!
@@gertjanvandermeij4265pricing at microcenter lead to me going with the a750 and it's been flawless so far!
Well I own an Intel arc A770 16GB ASRock GPU, and it rocks. I upgraded from an rx6600 to an rx6700, and decided to return that for the arc A770 16GB as it was the same price. I went from 60 FPS with FSR at maximum quality on resident evil 4 remake. To native 4k with maxed out settings and ray tracing on getting near 60 FPS.
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 You have tunnel vision. It's gaming performance is good enough at that price and it has hardware encoder. Its a good trade off depending on your use case. If I'm going to spend that much on gpu's I want it to do something else besides gaming, otherwise it's easier to justify getting a console.
Hey Paul. As someone who truly does like MSFS2020, I sincerely appreciate you including it within your test-suite. Although I'm not look to upgrade my current rig (5700xt) I'm still glad to see it included. Keep up the good work.
MSFS 2020 is just an GAME for teenagers !
If you want an TRUE flight sim, go with X-Plane !
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 lol what
I've used the A750 and like it. They are really getting better all the time at a breakneck pace to boot. But at the end of the day, I like AMD and am running an Asrock Challenger 6650XT, I nabbed it for $220 from Microcenter last week. Great card, no doubt. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either one so go for the cheapest option when buying. Happy Turky Day to you and yours Paul and Joe, try not to explode afterwards, eh? We need you 😂❤
unless you want to play starfield and are one of the people who refuse to play at or below 30fps.
may intel and amd overtake nvidia in the gpu market
I own an Arc a750. The drivers have improved a great deal even in the month and a half that I've had it--but yeah, the drivers and optimizations have a loooong way to go. Some games, especially older ones, play at FPS rates far below what something in the Arc's weight class should be able to achieve. The raw potential power of the a750 still makes it a compelling buy for me, and I'm hoping/expecting that there will be even more improvements in the future. For the moment, though, the 6650XT is a much safer bet, since its a more stable product.
But I will say, if you like to tinker, you're okay with waiting a bit for the software to catch up to the hardware, and you want to support a third party to stick it to Nvidia (and scare AMD into actually pricing their products competitively), then the a750 is a great buy.
Oh, and AV1 encoding on the cheap. AV1 is nice. Reeeeeal nice.
AMD has no incentive to price its products any more competitively than it already does. In the past it has had products that were straight-up better than Nvidia’s offerings, but gamers voted with their wallets.
When? It's been since like Maxwell that Nvidia has been winning in design. I remember back when Maxwell came out and it was so efficient plus beat AMD in gaming. All the AMDrones said "efficiency doesn't matter just max out put" 🤣.....now it's "efficiency is king" 😆..... Because AMD got lucky and Intel got lazy resting on their laurels. Meanwhile Nvidia has been kicking their can all over the place.
My (free) Intel Arc GPU, went straight into my fireplace !!! I don't want any CRAP in my PC !
which old games ? i heard dxvk can help
I have a 6650 xt so I'll vote that lol. But I do like Arc and hope they succeed.
Arc already fails, and Battlemage will be an even bigger DISASTER !!! Intel just SUCKS !
We need them to succeed for more competition and lower prices. Arc isn't that bad for the prices.
Why not enable all options of both cards? This way to see what the bells and whistles of both cards have to offer. Test the cards how you would set them up. As if this was your only card and you want to get the best proformas out of the card. Something different to the same old basic benchmarks.
I did something like that with the ASrock phantom gaming Arc a770 oc card even pulled out my 3090 T.I and ran the Arc in its place for a month. Currently running the Arc a770 in an old intel build its a great card that punch's well above its class even giving the 4060 T.I a run for its money and beating it in everything except ray tracing. And I don't have a need for ray tracing
TY for including MSFS in the game suite!
Thanks for the review. Building my next 10-year gaming rig, going w/ 7600x CPU (for now), and likely 6700 XT as it's as much as I'm comfortable spending. Team Red all the way.
Let's not forget, this is Intel's 1st gen graphics card vs RDNA 2nd gen and that the Intel drivers are still being worked on. I think Intel is going to be a huge competitor in the GPU space.
intel will likely never make other GPU's
@@glitter_fartSo they aren't working on improving their GPU drivers? They aren't releasing their 2nd gen GPU's branded as Battle mage next year? I guess they're just joshing us then huh
@@nicksterba battlemage was set to be out over a year ago, but yeah, i wouldnt hold your breath
@@nicksterba. I think the problem is that the poster is cynical due to previous actions of intel.
Personally, I do understand where they are coming from, but I am not sure if there is too much market beyond gaming for them to tap into to help motivate the corporation.
@@glitter_fartthey will even if they don't want to anymore because they already signed contracts with their big customers for future CPUs which will integrate a tile with Battlemage GPU.
Also if this was their last GPU they would not be releasing new drivers every two weeks with tons of performance improvements. This indicates that there is a big team working hard on the driver's.
Yes, thank you. This was helpful. I'm building my first PC for gaming, streaming, and simple editing. I don't have a huge budget, and was already looking at the exact combo with the 6650xt, and both the upgrades you mentioned. I'm sold. With current prices my build comes out to $750. Thanks again, Paul. Already a big fan so I was stoked you had a video about my combo.
Been playing with the idea of building a new system around my existing 3060ti with the thought of upgrading the GPU within the next year. Thanks Paul! Always looking out for us "bang for your buck" practical folk! Really appreciate it 🤘
Your 3060ti is better than both the 6650xt and 750
Thanks for using MSFS2020 in your tests! I’m starting to put a build together for 4K resolution aiming for a steady 60Hz at ultra in MSFS2020 hopefully without using frame gen
I've bought my a750 a week ago, since it's price started climbing in my country. It was still about 40 to 60$ cheaper than the fx7600, and I really wanted the hardware encoder for productivity reasons. I also have quite an aging system with AM4 and PCI3, so having 16 physical lanes mattered a lot too. I'm really happy with the card, especially that it's performance in older games wouldn't really bother me on linux anyway because of DXVK being the default method here. I do have to confirm that coil whine seems to affect all of them, my a750 almost gave me a heart attack in some games until I nervously scrambled to turn vsync on. I'm not sure if it behaves like that with every third party version, as I have the Intel "Limited edition" too.
Great video! I have the 6650 XT paired with Intel's Core i3 12100F, strictly for 1080p, non-ray tracing gaming and it performs like a champion. This combo will give you no issues with Horizon Zero Dawn, as was mentioned on the video (120 fps avg according to Radeon's Adrenaline).
I have had my A750 since launch day and honestly I have always loved the card! It has done pretty well since day one and feels very well built. And performance has been amazing to watch as it has increased overtime with drivers! I would definitely recommend it to people
i also have the Arc A750 and i definitely agree!
wich one shoould i buy ?? 6650xt or arc750
@@NukinStudios
6650 xt for $200+, it's a toss up if you can get the a750 for $180
I really wish you wouldn't forget about those of us who actually use a PC for work. I built a new workstation (in a beautiful Fractal North case) for use with office apps and some medium image and video editing, and the Intel A750 for $199 has been terrific. I know gaming is the primary focus here, but it would be really nice if you'd throw us a bone occasionally and remember, some PC's are still actually used for work.
Weird coincidence, I just purchased one of these PowerColor Hellhound RX 6650xt GPU's for my Ryzen 5 5600 "budget build" that already included the Lexar NM790 SSD that sponsored your video. I also noticed that I went with both of your "top-two" upgrades, going with 32GB of T-Force Vulcan 3600 RAM and a Vetroo V5 air cooler. I also upgraded that ThermalTake GXU PSU to the semi-modular 750W ThermalTake Smart BM3 PSU, because it was on sale for only $5 more & I much prefer the semi-modular flat cable layout.
I've been long term testing the ASrock phantom gaming Arc a770 oc card even pulled out my 3090 T.I and ran the Arc in its place for a month. Currently running the Arc a770 in an old (6th gen) intel build its a great card that punch's well above its class even giving the 4060 T.I a run for its money and beating it in everything except ray tracing. And I don't have a need for ray tracing
Did performance without rebar support improve for Arc?
love to see a '$20" tower cooler like an ak120 thrown in
Looks like I'm getting the Arc
For me it was between the A770 16GB and the RX 6750xt, but leaning towards Intel more because I’m about to build a PC (again) and wanted it to be team blue gpu and cpu. However, I opted against both and opted for an older gtx 1080ti as a stand in until intel battlemage is released, that’s what I really want to try out.
I'm helping a buddy get his first PC in like over a decade and the RX 6650 XT was the best value GPU of choice on the new market for his budget. Very excited to get it put together within the next week or so!
Thanks for the update on this budget build
Yes, I am right in the midst of building a new gaming/video rendering PC. HOWEVER - I am using only USED parts. That is my window into an overpowered beast on a budget...
1. Case: NZXT S340 Mid Tower - modded with two dual 120mm grills from Amazon (very high quality, only $16.99 ea.). Dremel cutouts on top and front of case,.allows for push-pull 240 Rad in front for CPU AIO, and two 120mm intake fans on top.
2. Used Corsair 1000w fully modular PSU
3. MSI X99A SLI Plus socket 2011-3 motherboard with NVMe m.2 and up to eight sticks of quad channel RAM
4. Intel Xeon E5-2696 v3 CPU - a custom variant of the same 2699 v3. The standard Xeon has a turbo boost of 3.6GHz, while the custom version has a boost clock of 3.8GHz. Version 3 Xeons can have turbo boost unlocked on all cores via a BIOS injection mod. This enables 3.8GHz on all 18 cores and 36 threads on this chip.
5. nVidia RTX 3080 FE with the copper plate VRAM mod
6. nVidia GTX 980 Ti EVGA Hybrid (120mm Rad) - for separate OBBS capture, and for DVI-I analog output to CRT for full analog retro gaming
7. WiFi/Bluetooth PCIe add-on card
8. Dual NVMe m.2 drives PCIe add-on card
9. 1 x 512Gb Samsung 950 Pro NVMe SSD system drive (on MB)
10. 2 x 2Tb Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD working drives (refurbished)
11. 1 x 10Tb HGST HDD storage drive (Helium-filled)
12. 64Gb Machinist 2133 ECC DDR4 Quad Channel RAM
13. Approx. 8 120mm fans (already own)
PC Case, Motherboard, RAM, WiFi Card, PSU, SSD = $400
CPU = $40
Custom Vents, NVMe Add-on Card = $44
2 x 2Tb SSD + 1 x 10Tb Drive = $270
nVidia RTX 3080 FE + Copper Mod/Thermal Paste = $420
nVidia GTX 980 Ti Hybrid = $100
Total = $1274
Total System: 18 Core/36 Thread @ 3.8GHz, 2-GPU w/RTX 3080 FE, 4.5Tb SSD, 10Tb Storage, 1000w, WiFi/Bluetooth, 64Gb RAM = $1274
Might want to double-check my math. But that's my streaming/rendering/gaming build. This will be my first PC since 2015, making some big changes and hoping to get into streaming with an old friend. Want to be ready, because I'm not doing this again for a while.
This build started around the CPU. It has a massive 45Mb L3 cache - nearly double that of any desktop CPU. The E5-2699 v3 is a well known CPU. The E5-2696 was a custom variant, made for a single vendor, and not found on ark.intel. The only difference I could find is the higher boost clock on the custom version. And with the ability to unlock turbo boost on all 18 cores (this is a v3-chip series mod only), it becomes a workhorse. It's not exactly a 4.4GHz turbo i9-9980XE, but that's a $600+ chip right now at the end of 2023. Then there is the cost of an x299 motherboard.
The Xeon cannot be overclocked. Though to overclock the i9, it requires some very extravagant cooling - a 360 Rad. minimum. Just 600MHz less, at 3.8GHz, I can use my current AIO and save both money and space. I've wanted to downsize from my Corsair 800D Obsidian for forever. Getting all of this hardware into a mid tower case is, to me, a revelation.
I'm pulling a JayzTwoCents case mod, just cutting open the front and top for maximum airflow. He pointed to the grills for additional fans that are really well made. I might even cut a hole for a DVD drive as well, just to be different. I want the PC to look dated and not that great, no giveaway to what's inside.
But I might be most excited by the water-cooled GTX 980 Ti. I've got both a 17-inch CRT monitor in storage, as well as a very fresh Sony CRT television that will be perfect for some retro gaming. I was already past college when Quake 3D and Doom came out. I completely remember the feel of zero input lag when blasting aliens on a little 15-inch monitor. It'll be great to pump out those instantaneous frames on a big, 27-inch Sony TV in crisp, electron-beam glory.
So, that's my build. A beefy, 18 core Xeon and a 3080 FE for raw processing grunt, with some fun custom touches. Some will surely mock the 2133NHz DDR4, but it's not in dual channel, it's in quad channel, so 2133 is really like 4266MHz. I'm not worried that it'll be slow or outdated. Right now I'm just waiting on AliExpress for some deliveries....
I got my 6650xt for $275 last November, been totally worth it upgrading from a 1060 6gb. amd's adrenalin is pretty good and I think I've gotten more than 50$ worth of use out of it. The worst part is not being able to use RT in cyberpunk without a massive FPS cut but hopefully it will get FSR 3 ... someday ... but otherwise it's pretty good for 1440p and would be a lot better if I upgrade to a 5800x3d from my 3600. However I might just hold onto the money and save for a new build, hopefully with a 7800x3d.
Biggest problem for me is the ReBAR requirement - I’d love to upgrade my kids’ cards with a cheap and cheerful GPU, but upgrading the whole shebang to enable ReBAR isn’t in the cards. Looking forward to Battlemage, though!
I always keep these videos in the back of my mind when people ask me for build advice. This seems like a great build for kids getting their first gaming PC.
Well done, Joe and Paul! This would be the type of build I'd recommend for my friend's/family/co-workers.
Huh, thanks for testing Flight Simulator. That's a game I like!
After one year with my A770, I switched to a 7800 XT. Now everything works, no more workarounds, no more bugs, no more headaches.
VR, RPCS3, games that stopped working, my mental sanity... They're all back in business.
Intel GPU are fine if you mostly play DX12 games. As as bonus, with Intel you get a new friend that you will learn to love and hate : DXVK
Thank you for testing these specific GPUs.
I wonder what $220ish GPUs you will be comparing in May 2025?
Where I live there is a TAX on items over $200. The tax is not just on the amount over $200, but on the TOTAL PRICE. That results in a roughly $80 price difference between the two cards compared. The whole world does not live in the USA.
Paul, thanks for testing Microsoft Flight Simulator. It's a game i like! 👍
👍🏾 👍🏾 Glad to see a $700 build and especially glad to see GPUs coming from anyone other than the usual two crooks.
That's pretty my my exact system, 5600 non X and 6650xt, I'm happy with it.
I'm doing a $700 pc right now. I just have some more freedom since I'm providing the PSU and the case outside of the components. So I was able to upgrade a little bit. 5600x + 6700xt, 16MB 3200c16, 1TB nvme gen 3, sticking with the stock cooler, but the case is an o11-D with 6 fans that I'm also throwing in, so that much airflow in there should help with the cooling.
In the case of your query about your GPUs, I'd probably stick with the AMD side in this debate because of their reliability and up-to-date drivers... Maybe Intel will make something spectacular some day; then I'll take a closer look at their product. Took me a while to warm up to AMD GPUs too... used to have a lot of bad luck with them. Then, with the 4000 series, Nvidia basically alienated me for life... now rocking a 7900XT (from a 3090), and I'm so much happier.
Thanks for the info Paul I just purchased the 6650XT for my 5L travel rig!!
Thanks for testing MSFS, Paul 😎
But could you add the all important 1% lows to the overlay?
These are the prices we need like back in 2018 when the prices was low and you could actually afford to buy GPU
Paul, thanks for testing Flight Simulator, I don't play it, but nice to see. As for a $40 difference, if a $40 difference in price is negligible to a person for the GPU, they should be going for a tier up or current generation. To me, I can afford the $40 easily, but would see the difference as very compelling for the A750 or the RX7600 at about $240 this weekend.
Thank you for doing this comparison Paul. For as much optimization that comes out in the news for Intel's Arc GPUs, there hasn't seemed to be a recent update from any techtubers regarding its performance (to be fair these updates come out almost weekly it seems like). I'm interested to see how Intel's lower market price GPUs compare to the likes of AMD. Maybe at some point Nvidia can step back into this price slot...
If I didn't already have a PC, I would most likely build something like this. AMD and Intel are offering great value low and mid-range graphics cards
You’ve helped me build and understand my first pc thank you very much👍👍
With the budget, going with the A750 along with the 7600X, and it's nice to have a third option.
who would have thought we would use amd cpu and intel gpu 10 years ago ... i just ordered mine for with free ac mirage and paired with 5900x
Nice to know I can upgrade my PC to AM5 been running on AM4 2nd Gen parts for quite a while, actually affordable again 😁
Always fun to watch.
Thank you for including MSFS! It’s the only game I play lol.
6650's pretty nice. A750's pretty nice. Get whatever's on sale! Each have their downsides (software capturing on Intel's annoying, software capturing on AMD's desynched audio/video, etc). I will say most complaints regarding drivers and performance for Intel Arc have melted away, all my time with the a380 and a750 have been by and large blissful. If you can get a used/open box a750 for the 150-160 mark, you will 110% be thrilled with price to performance.
Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving, Paul!!!
picked up the A-750 on cyber Monday for a crazy $179 new two days later it was back up to $229 sold and shipped at Newegg stuck in my budget back up system with a R5 7600 and 32 gig ddr 5 4800 ram and it scores 11333 on 3d mark and seems to run every game I toss at it great on my 27" 1080P 240hz screen very happy with it ...main gaming rig is 7800x3d with 7900xtx but wanted to also know how Intel is doing so decided on the A-750 for back up system well because I like knowing all the players and how they work :-) daughter has a 13400 system with Nvidia 3060 12 gig so I get to play with them all now and have a real opinion and wow Intel ARC and it drivers are nothing to shy away from any more ...a year ago i got the little A-380 so i have been tinkering with it for a wile and for a good it it was quite buggy but today I say if it is a better deal for the performance go for it Intel has worked very hard and it is paying off and I cant wait to see what they offer next .. :-)
So glad to see the Asus AP201 here, I have this case and it has been amazing.😍
If I had that system... I would go with A750 and buy a better CPU cooler say in the $25 - $30 range. Thanks Paul, great build. Take care.
ARC Drivers are just keep better. Can't wait for Battlemage. Intel powerful iGPU are also coming soon.🎉
Thanks for the update on Intel's card. I so hope they keep at it. I been thinking about a budget all intel build. Been an AMD user from the first 286 to 386 upgrade I made long past. This might be my black friday deal build.
thanks for all the work put in... cheers..
I have been watching all kinds of budget guides lately. We are building a computer for my dad, and I have been bouncing between something like this and an I5 13600K and just using the integrated graphics. since all he does is play UA-cam videos and maybe some Football games.
These videos are great. You can build a sick little rig this black friday. Since the first video a bit ago, where you built it, I built a pc, inspired by this machine. Same case, which I think is sleek, and I kept it all intel.
Take this in mind the arc can be had for. 190ish bucks with a game
Good video. Thanks. I have the Sapphire Pulse RX 6650 XT.
I'm all A.M.D. all the time! they play well together.
Thanks for making this video. I especially appreciate how you break down the upgrade suggestions in the description section. I am not sure that the Arc would be for me. I appreciate the lower price but not the lower specs. Happy Thanksgiving.
specs aren't lower. Hardware encoding, AI, RT. You compromise on some performance for more features. At this price point, I'm looking to be introduced to the new features. It has to work well enough for me to feel the benefits of these features so that when then next gen of gpu's come around I can determine if it's worth it to pay for these features when it matures. If this card can last 2 years, it's done its job.
I think I would just save and up the CPU as much as possible. I did this in 2012 and am still running the 3930k for 1080 gaming coupled with a 1070 (oldie machine) and it does fine. That's good value for money long term. which does me just fine. When GTA VI drops I'll probably do a new build and these ARC cards are looking excellent. Imagine being around for only 18 months and killing it like this (despite a bit of a driver hiccup).
Wish there were benchmarks for raytracing
Currently building an Intel 13600/A750 ITX build.
Thanks again for this content. As I commented in the first half of the video, this is extremely pertinent to me since I’m collecting parts to build a system with my daughter on Christmas! I’m still really torn, and considering the a750. However, for me, the decision is between that and the 6600. Since they have pretty good price, parity, and both are in my sub $200 budget target , I’m still finding it difficult to decide which one to pick in the $180-190 range. I do get your point that the 6650XT is a much better performer , but I’m really not looking to go above the $200 mark, and I don’t need to hit that higher performance level, since eventually, my daughter will be getting a hand-me-down 3070 in the system instead. Either way, thanks for the food for thought, and have a very happy Thanksgiving!
Oh, and speaking of food and Thanksgiving… Are you making pies this year?
My MSI 6650 XT also has noticeable coil whine. It's also the loudest fan in my computer.
Excellent!
Its so nice to se a non RGB build ;)
I revived an older computer and really wanted to go with an arc card, but this system isn't new enough for resizeable bar, so it was ruled out.
I been trying to see some budget around $500 wanting to see options to build one for my fiance for Christmas she like gaming but not so hard. This one look awesome but is out of my budget lol
Maybe look for a good APU from amd
@estebanguerrero682 that pretty a good idea, i was no thinking about that thanks for the suggestion.
I'd like to build a mini ITX system next year, and I'm looking at an all Intel build - 13700 paired with an ARC GPU. I'm really curious about them, and as much as I hate Intel being a money hungry juggernaut, I think the space needs more competition. Intel won't make more ARC if people aren't buying them.
For comparison, I built a similar system recently having TimeSpy results pushing a 10k overall score. The MB, GPU, and NVME were the only new parts and purchased within the past year for around $500. I suspect the difference maker in TimeSpy score from Paul’s findings is the 1080p and maybe hardware I will list at the end…
Cooler Master Storm Scout case;
Ryzen 3600;
Wraith cooler w a 2004 Dell copper core heat sink sandwiched between Wraith fan and stock heat sink;
MSI B550M pro-vdh Wi-Fi MB;
Micron 2x8 GB DDR4 3200 memory;
Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME ssd;
Antec 550W PWS (circa 2011);
Samsung S27D360H 1080p monitor; and lastly…
PowerColor Hellhound RX 7600
just built my first ever rig with a A770
Paul, this is one of the best video you have created for $700 budget build. I like your setup but here is my configuration that I have chosen.
For CPU, I would go with go with New cheaper Ryzen 5500x3D when ever comes out or 5600x3D for $229.99, for GPU for $20 more I would go with Radeon RX 7600 for $249.99 this will provide me more FPS in gaming. I would go with remaining components.
Amazingly my kid upgraded his R5 3600 to a 5700X today (bought yesterday on Amazon) The 5700X was 3 Canadian Pesos cheaper than the 5600X! Which was the original plan.
My buddy is building his new gaming rig but he's on a very strict budget: no more than $500 if he wants to stay married. I've donated a Corsair 750w PSU, memory and a case so mainboard, CPU and GPU have to hit those marks. The $40 dollar difference between the two cards is huge in a case like this so I'm hoping he goes for the Arc card and puts the savings into a better motherboard. Great video Paul, just what I needed to see.
Compare the colors in Microsoft Flight simulator. Which side do you like more 9:34
I know it seems a bit of an up-sell, but the RX 7600 is just around $230- $250 and will also give you AV1 if that's a Feature that interests you? Prices at the Low end seem to bouncing around daily!!
I'm running the 5600X with the 6900 XT. It would be interesting to see it in the mix, just as a comparison. Also. Great landing :D
Is Paul Hardware, I click, I watch, I like, I comment, is good.
This video was incredibly helpful! As someone who is building his “first” gaming pc soon and has a budget of around $1200, I’d love so see a video covering your ideal build in that price range. I’m thinking 7600X/RX7800XT, but like seeing other perspectives!
Allow me to direct you to last month's build!
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It was a $1200 system, but I delivered it quickly so there's not a follow-up testing part. But that's about what I'd recommend for $1200 right now
Edit: oh yeah the link
@@paulshardware what a legend!! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
I like to see how the Asus Phoenix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 V2 Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Axial-tech Fan Design, Protective Backplate, Dual Ball Fan Bearings, Auto-Extreme) against those two gpus
Damn this is hard, I’m still in deciding from an A750 RX6000 line up or a 3060 😂
Just bought the arc a750 off amazon for 179.99$ and it came with assains creed mirage which is a 49.99$ game so I got this card for 130$. At that price there was no choice. :)
@paul - huge fan, been watching since the earliest days!
You have helped me build half a dozen machines or more over the years. First build for my just turned 13 year old daughter who loves Minecraft and CoD and wants to get into pc gaming. Is this the build I want for Christmas for her?
PowerColor is never gonna be as big as Intel but the GPU it makes are quite okay IMO. At least, the GPU making process/methodology PowerColor is using, is quite impressive.
Arc is pretty good Paul!
i just ordered a750 as a video out and very rare gaming. 180 euros and free ac mirage. 6650xt is 220 euros without game. price performance is nearly same so why not
I'm a huge RX 6000 fan but Id still go ARC.. probably an A750 uniless I could find a 580 for 140 or less then Id go that route.
256-bit mem bus I do think will help ARC age better than the 128 bit 6650.
That extra money could improve other areas of the build. More / faster storage or ram for example or a better processor. I like both of these cards and I think on a budget build you would be happy with either.
Finally going to upgrade from my rx580 (yeah, about 6 years old now) and leaning towards the RX6700 instead, although you've got me curious about the 6650 now...
Paul! Thanks for testing Microsoft Flight Simulator, that's a game I like!
Set a global frame rate cap in drivers to cut down on that coil whine. I have a limit of 200 fps for my 165hz monitor.
I want to see how the A750 perform in productivity
Recently put together a pc with an arc a770 and I was experiencing stuttering in AC: Mirage . Frame count was all over the place. Turned out to be because I had scale at 300% in display options. Put it to 100% and it fixed it. I'm perfectly happy with the gpu so far but I haven't made it through every game I own yet.
What kind of games do you play? and how's it running? been wondering about that a770
I'd probably opt for the A770 16gb. Still close to or under $1k
I want to pint out that the a750 never peaked performance at 99% like the 6650 and ran cooler the whole time in yhe live tests
Thanks Paul for testing flight simulator! :)
I'm not building a new PC. I just want to let you know that this is a very pleasant video. 💚