@@ad72644 That went both ways. Here's some Jewish communities that had to be evacuated because of Arbz V (b4 ’48): Beer Tuvia, Beerot Itzhak, Beit Eshel, Beit HaArava, Beit Shean, Bni Yehuda, Har Tuv, Zichron Avraham, Hebron, Hulda, Chmara, Kfar Uria, Kfar Giladi, Germak, Kfar Saba, Moza, Metula, Masade, Gaza, Tel Hai, Tiferet Binyamin, etc, etc.
@@ad72644 The Arbz started the v during the mandate era (tried to include some examples, but yt deleted it, too graphic I suppose).... Anyway J fought back just like they should have. They were fighting for their survival and the potential survival of milz more was dependent on their success establishing a Jewish homeland (whereas the Arbz were fighting because they didn't want to share with self determined J). The Arbz created their own reality back then, just like they do now.
@@ad72644 yeah that tends to happen when you attack someone with the expressed intention of exterminating every person in it. What really pisses you off is the fact that you lost to Jews. Remember how the mullahs said you couldn't lose because Allah was on your side? How'd that work out for you again, scrub?
Y’all skipped over the part before the British stole the land from the Palestinians to give to the Jews. You just jumped to “Israel existed, and then the Nakba happened.”
Jewish channel using propaganda to promote fake news and control the narrative lmao.. they are ignoring literally what happened in 2022 in sheik jarrah.. u won’t see a video about that tho
@son of cush ityoppi's When the Arab world confiscated everything they owned then expelled all Jews from their countries there were innocent Men children and woman that had nothing to do with Israel declaration of a state.
@son of cush ityoppi's Where're talking about the past here, not Arab countries today, getting U.S. technology and money in exchange for peace with Israel.
@son of cush ityoppi's did u heard about fogal family? It's a family that's lived at Israel near tell Aviv and a Palestinian broke into they're house and kill the parents and all they're children
@@embrosehuq3646 then why are you defending a propaganda? I’m more than happy to see you calling out Hamas propaganda, but don’t deny Israel propaganda when you see it
Interesting how there's absolutely no mention of the Balfour Declaration and virtually no historical context of Zionism. If there's no mention or context of Zionism when discussing the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, then the debate shouldnt be taken seriously.
The writers of the Balfour Declaration just based it on the Bible Old Testament ___Genisis 15:18 - 21 "On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, 'To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates- the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." So, in essence, this land would span from the northeastern part of Egypt (Gaza) all the way to the Euphrates River (modern day Palestine/Israel/Lebanon/Syria.
@@grichard1585 : The writers of the Balfour Declaration were the British, who promised the land to the Arab League if they helped the British defeat the Ottomans The British also promised the land to the French if they helped them defeat the Ottomans The Britsh also promised the land to the Zionists if they helped them defeat the Ottomans. Somebody was gonna screwed.
As someone who has nothing to do with either side, nor do I care that much, this is clearly propaganda for Israel. It’s ver hard for someone on the outside to get an unbiased understanding of the current situation
At least they’re not defending Hamas… I mean, to be so influenced by the propaganda that you’re rooting for those who’re the embodiment of evil and hate your soil.
I agree with you however Israel has been attacked by Palestine again and again and again. Really this is Israel defending their land and saying enough is enough. Really they are in the right
@@courtneyvarney903 Thing is its not their land, the majority of the jews living in palestine now originate from eastern europe , why is it that a jew who has no connectiion to the land have more rights than the palestinian who was actually born there.
Populations change territories after wars. It happened in Europe, India-Pakistan & many other places. It's the responsibility of the Arab countries to give citizenship to the the people that were born there instead of using them as pawns.
@Waleed you do realize there will be mutual compensation as there were also 800,000 Mizrachi Jews cleansed out of Arab Countres as they left their property and businesses behind which Israel has absorbed with out funds from UNRWA.
@Waleed that would be the case if the Palestinians were forcefully expelled which they weren't, being expelled means that they told you to leave or else, which simply didn't happen.
@Waleed They can get a citizenship you dumbass, they just choose not to, they litteraly want everything, they just won't accept any land deals, they want EVERYTHING.
@@blackwater410020% of Israel’s population is Arabic NOW, 600k Arabs were evicted in the Nakba. Jewish people made up only 10% of the population of that area at the time of Israel being declared a state
Invasion of Palestine? What in the hell are you talking about. This idea that in 1948 Palestine was an Arab state is pure fantasy. How hard is it to understand that the Arabs were offered a state, they said no and everything that has happened thereafter is 100% their fault
It is Jewish land. How about you speak on the Arab conquering of Africa and the Middle East where Islam was forced on the people of the land. Jews were expelled from Israel and were told to leave and faced death. If you were expelled from your home, you would hope to get it back as well. Israel is decolonization. Arabs came in 700 AD Jews have been in Israel for 4,000 years.
I want to believe there's no bad intentions behind this video. However, I can't help but notice there is a great deal of bias and invisibilization of palestinian suffering. Since the video is titled "Did Israel expel Palestinian Arabs?" wouldn't the testimony of a palestinian who actually lived through Nakba be much more iluminating than the testimony of a 20-something-year-old israeli who grew up inside a country with a terrible record of unbiased education and press?? (If you're curious to what I mean just look at the recent Netanyahu corruption charges and his meddling with press and how state sponsored education inside the country and occupied territories follows very clear ideological narratives) You could have contrasted a palestinian testimony with a jewish testimony and it would have being much more productive. You are not gonna resolve the debate in one 7 minute video. However, it would go a long way if you broke out of the regular western narrative that excludes arab experiences. Controversy isn't necesseraly bad, specially when it's done in good faith. This are dificult and sensitive issues for both sides, so it's good that the dialogue is complex, otherwise you are left with the mainstream (in western media) assumption that arabs and palestinias are just inherently violent and crazy. If you put such a title in this video, don't make the mistake of reinforcing israeli bias.
okay 1. this is a pro-israel channel, dont expect fair views from bith sides 2. most of those who lived thru the nakkba unfourtently passed away since it happend 75+ years ago (side note, most israeli schools dont even talk about this event, i know this cause im an israeli)
Arabs could get half the land at 1948, chose war, lost, cry since than. They were not the owner of the land, end of the story. Egypt, Jordan, British mandate, Ottoman, not arabs, as they hadn't any country borders leaders establishment date etc etc
The problem with this video is that it completely ignores the British Mandate period that began after World War I. The British declared a homeland for the Jews and facilitated immigration for Eastern European Jews into Palestine while simultaneously suppressing the rights of the existing population. This was basically an act of war unto itself and lasted for about 30 years. The Zionists considered themselves settlers and colonists, that's how they spoke of themselves in their own writings. So this conflict was going on long before 1948. Nation-building over the top of an existing population with the aid of the preeminent superpower of the era unsurprisingly created a huge amount of resentment in the region. The retribution against Jewish communities outside of Palestine in the years after 1948 was a direct result of the nation-building and ethnic cleansing within Palestine that started in 1917. The push-pull factors are complicated. Israel did not allow the refugees from the Nabka to return home after the war. This was deliberate by Israel and they did so knowing that this would likely precipitate Jewish refugees into Israel from Arab countries. What's more important today is not 1948 but 1967. Israel exists and is recognized by most countries but it has evolved into an apartheid state because of its brutal occupation of the West Bank.
That's not true, They actually stifled Jewish immigration to appease the local bigots! The reason the Zionists said "settlers" was because it has a different meaning in Hebrew than it does in English: it meant they were the owners of the land. Yes, the conflict was going on before 1948 - there were massacres of Jews *several times* BEFORE Israel was established, so saying "the establishment of Israel is to blame" is pretty much an *insanely stupid* lie. For you to pretend that European pogroms & the Holocaust were somehow related to "Palestinian colonialism" is even more insane. Oh, & you used the word 'apartheid". Yeah, strike three, FOAD.
"Palestinians started it!" If foreigners attempted to steal your land so they can create an ethnostate there, wouldn't you be up and arms to defend your land? Because that's what Palestinians were doing: Defending their land
The Palestinians rejected a two-state solution, then attacked the Jews for wanting to live in their only safe-haven after being persecuted everywhere else. Israel is also built on Jewish history, all of it. How are the Jews in the wrong here?
Most of the Jewish immigrants bought land from the Ottoman’s. Most of the displacement was a result of fear of war due to the rising tension between both sides.
A lot of Jews were simply refugees that came to their own brothers and sisters in Israel, NGO's were buying land and housing to help facilitate and save their own people. And Arabs, instead of helping, only thought about themselves. No, worse: they started attacking and killing bare foot refugees lol, violance against Jews in Palestine was already a thing around 1920! And after that it just got insane when Jews were trying to run from the horrors in Europe. Practically no countries were taking in Jewish refugees... or way too little numbers to allow them to run from the nazi's. So Mr. Smarty pants, what do you think we were supposed to do then when we arrived to Palestine (the only country that had public Jewish institutes that accepted us) just to receive another bullet flying towards us? Just accept certain death? What would you have done with fire in your back and fire in your front? I mean, seriously, how hard can it be to zoom out and take in the full context of the situation we were in?
@@Khaled4life So? All PA's are claiming that they live in Israel for Centuries. As I said half of them are new comers. Jews lived in Israel for Centuries and many arrived from 1878. So the PA's have no advantage over the Jews. Most of the Arabs arrived because the new comer Jews needed skilled workers. While more and more Jews keep arriving in Israel, they need more and more workers and Arabs kept arriving with their families in Israel. Now they say that they lived there for many ages and the Jews have no rights in Israel at all. Kaled, I advise you to read the history of this region in the last 200 years, beginning with the Egyptian invasion in 1830.
FREE PALESTINE, PALESTINE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE FREE FROM INJUSTICE 75 YEAR COLONIALISM THAT MASSACRES PALESTINIANS DAILY. ISRAELIS ARE EUROPEAN AND ARAB JEWS WHO IMMIGRATED TO PALESTINE AND STOLE PALESTINIAN LAND WHILE DISPLACING MILLIONS OF PALESTINIANS. THEY HAVE BEEN RAIDING VILLAGES, DEMOLISHING HOMES, BURNING CARS, CUTTING TREES, KILLING PETS, APARTHEID OCCUPATION OF THE NATIVE INDIGENOUS PALESTINIANS, PEEING IN CHURCHES, BREAKING MOSQUES, GENOCIDING PALESTINIANS, ETHNICALLY CLEANSING PALESTINIANS, DAMAGING GRAVEYARDS, ISRAEL IS A WEIRD MENTAL ILLNESS THAT THINKS KILLING BABIES IS SELF DEFENSE, WHILE CHANTING WIPE OUT PALESTINIANS.
@@putnaik9144 I agree, it hasn’t been acceptable forever though and both sides continue to fight and kill each other, they just retaliated by bombing a hospital and killing potentially 500 people is that acceptable?
@@putnaik9144over 1000 Palestinian children dead right now in just the past week through indiscriminate bombing. They tell them to go south for safety then bomb the road south killing 70 people. Then today they bombed southern Gaza. Amnesty international concluded that over 500 Palestinian children and over 4,000 Palestinian adults have been killed outside the context of an armed conflict since 2005. Israel controls the water, Electricity in Gaza and control where Palestinians can traverse in the West Bank. They weld the doors to their homes shut to insure they can’t walk on certain streets. They bulldoze down and expel them from their generational homes. Settlers in the West Bank form gangs to harass and expel Palestinian populations with violence. All backed by the Israeli government. Now they’re blocking essential humanitarian aid from getting through at the Egyptian border. Israel is a sick state that no decent person should support. This was the case before Hamas did what they did Oct. 7th, and is still the case until there’s some serious changes and compromises made. We are witnessing the finishing of ethnic cleansing Israel has always wanted to finish. Now they seemingly have carte blanche to go ahead with that ugly business. With little to no criticism by first world nations because of money interests and the eternal victim narrative of the holocaust. If it were happening anywhere else we’d call it like it is. A genocide. And I don’t use that word lightly.
*In his memoirs, Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948-49, also admitted the Arab role in persuading the refugees to leave:* *“Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return.”* (The Memoirs of Haled al Azm, Beirut, 1973, Part 1, pp. 386-387.)
As the video said, populations were moved by both sides because of the war. Once the war was over, everyone thought the reasonable, just thing to do was to let civilians back to their homes. Everyone except Israel
@@ChannelMath Yeah. For example, Iraqi Jews had their citizenship and property taken away, and were forced out of the country, as a result of their past government’s support for Hitler and killing Iraqi Jews in pogroms such as the Farhud. How do those refugees go back from Israel to Iraq? How about Ethiopian Jews who were threatened with death/violence in Ethiopia, called outsiders by fellow Ethiopians, and now allowed to own land because they were Jews? How do they go back to Ethiopia? How about the Yemenite Jews forced to flee Yemen? How do those refugees go back in a middle of a crisis? How about Syrian Jews? How about the Jews asked to leave their homes to newly established Israel by Egypt and Jordan when Egypt occupied Gaza, and Jordan occupied West Bank? No one seems to want to talk about that, nor acknowledge that. They just want to ignorantly say “Go back to Europe” 🙄 And if all the Jews are expelled from Israel, are the 2M Arab Israeli’s allowed to stay, or will they also be asked to “go back to where they come from”? Will government be one state under Hamas? Or 2 state solution before 1967 like PA Fatah Abbas has recommended? People think they have the simple black and white answer but it just shows their ignorance😂😂😂
@@ChannelMath everyone Except israel?? How about Palestinian president Mahmoud abbas saying that he will allow no israeli to live in Palestine no matter what the cause?? And why should everyone return? They weren't forcefully expelled which means that they have no right of return as is coded in international law, if you want to change international law to include anyone who fled the war then advocate for that next to the UN headquarters not on israel's doorstep, expecting israel of being better then international law itself is an extreme example of "expecting the jews to be the true Christians" the funny thing is that even if they were forcefully expelled then they still wouldn't be allowed to come back cause hostile populations are an exception to this rule according to international law, again if you don't like it then advocate for the UN to reform it.
@@yashiro3594 sorry for the confusion. "everyone Except israel" was the beginning of a sentence I did not finish and I don't remember what is was supposed to be. I don't like Abbas, but also I don't care what Abbas says about Palestine because it is not a state and he has no power.
There is no single answer here, because, to an extent, they are all true: There were Arabs and Muslims who fled British Mandatory Palestine ahead of the modern State of Israel's foundation either because they feared or simply did not want to die in the coming inevitable war, or because Arab leadership advised them to get out of the way. Arab leaders also promised they could return to their homes once the Jews were forced out. Historically, we know that they failed at this last bit. There were Arabs and Muslims who were forced out of BMP by the newly-formed Israeli army because Israel did not want potential enemies inside their gates helping the Arab armies. This is strategically sound, even as it creates refugees. If it's small consolation, at least the Israeli army weren't trying to cleanse the land of Arabs and Muslims by r*ping and killing them. Yes, small consolation indeed. But there's a third category that is very seldom spoken of: The Arabs and Muslims who stayed, becoming Israeli citizens with full rights. Some Arab and Muslim Israelis even serve in its government, and talk openly about how they are going to destroy the Jewish state, without fear of being arrested. This, to me, is weird, but I guess the Jewish Israelis figure they prefer the enemy they know and can watch over those they don't. There is also a demographic issue that Israel faces, and has faced since it was still BMP, and that issue is defined by its twin character as both a Jewish and a democratic state: Jews are an incredibly small minority in both the Middle East and in the world at large. If Israel allowed unrestricted immigration into Israel by other cultural and religious groups, they would become a minority within their own country, and Israel would therefore cease to be the Jewish state. This is exactly what the British attempted to do in the 1920s and 1930s with the White Papers, limiting Jewish migration to BMP, while encouraging Arabs and Muslims to flood the land, in order to snuff out the Jewish state before it could even be formed. It almost worked, too, especially when Jewish migration was extremely tightly restricted during the Second World War, but then the world went on a giant guilt trip over their passive role in the Holocaust, and the international community decided to assuage that guilt by letting Jews have Israel. For the same reason, allowing the Palestinian refugees to live in Israel would also make Jews there into a minority, even if they were allowed to stay. Because Israel is a democracy, then, the Palestinians would have more political power in Parliament than the Jews, and be able to force through whatever changes they wanted, up to and including establishing the Islamic Republic of Lesser Iran that HAMAS states they want to establish there in their charter. This is something that Israel absolutely cannot allow, so they have to bar Palestinians' demand for the right of return since they see this is an existential threat toward Israel as a Jewish and democratic state. Especially since the UNRWA definition for refugee status is conferred in perpetuity to every descendent of the original Palestinian refugees. So instead of about 700,000 refugees, Israel has to deal with over two million in Gaza alone. It should be noted that the UNRWA is the only refugee advocacy agency in the world that operates in such a way as to perpetuate the refugee status of the peoples for whom it is responsible, and it is only responsible for Palestinians in the Middle East. Whenever Palestinians have migrated to other parts of the world, other agencies have taken over, and these agents help these Palestinians shed their refugee status by becoming full citizens in their new countries. The UNRWA does not do that, because it is designed to keep the Palestinians as refugees, not to help them become citizens. Other such agencies that were formed in the wake of the Second World War in order to handle the process of land and population exchanges that was popular back then have long since closed up shop because their jobs are all done. The UNRWA, though, is still around because making citizens is not their job. This is incredibly unfair to the Palestinians of the Middle East, who lack the sense of security that they should have, but none of the Arab nations want to absorb them. Part of the reason borders like Egypt's remain closed to them is because previously when countries like Lebanon and Jordan did accept them, terrorists also went with the civilians, and conducted uprisings from within their new countries. One organization tried to assassinate the King of Jordan. Hezbollah took over Southern Lebanon. And of course, HAMAS took over Gaza. The other Arab nations do not want to risk a militarist uprising within their borders, so they turn all Palestinians away. So yes, a multifaceted, very complicated situation. But I place significant blame for it on the British for their mishandling of their mandatory responsibilities, and also because they wanted to prevent the Jewish state from becoming a thing, and in doing so, they really, really messed up the region.
@@UNPACKED Thanks. I'm always doing research on the side, looking for books on the situation that treats both Israelis and Palestinians fairly. It's very difficult, but I found one or two that do. A lot of these books, even when they don't approach it fairly, have tidbits of information I never knew. Like the thing about the White Papers.
Fascinating! That is a noble task. Would love to hear which books you've found that do so. We talk about the White Papers in this video: ua-cam.com/video/S3U4cV2vFOU/v-deo.htmlsi=xoSJZ4nlPTCy85wW
so if arabs fled from palestine you take their homes hhhh, did you have the keys, why you don't say they were expelled by you terrorist groups killing arabs?
Okay, just to make sure. Was Nakba an act of ethnic cleansing? Because the information presented kinda contradicts it and says that Israel expelled Palestinian Arabs for security reasons, not ethnic hatred as many Palestinians say it was.
think about it logically- if israel really strived for ethnic cleansing, there wouldnt be any arabs living inside their borders, let alone serve in their parliament and all public positions, etc... its just doesnt make any sense
Well, considering that the Israeli military forces blatantly ignored the borders set by the partition act and decided to invade and conquer much more territory than they had been gifted, I sincerely doubt it was about security.
While it is true that the British promised through the Balfour Declaration of 1917 a state for the Jews that included Transjordan, the truth is that they first promised the Muslims a state composed of all the territories inhabited by them, including Transjordan and also Cisjordan (the West Bank), which were inhabited by a vast majority of Muslims. So, basically, the Balfour Declaration is mostly legally void, since it came after the promise made to the Muslims. I say mostly because the Balfour Declaration did establish a right for the Jews to have a state, but only in the territories inhabited by the Jews, which obviously excludes Transjordan and Cisjordan. Of course that this state for the Muslims was never realized as one state, but as many, and the British government signed the Covenant of the League of Nations, that specified that the territories conquered from the Ottoman, German and the Austro-Hungarian Empires were granted the right to become independent. In the case of the Middle East, the states that exist today are based on the administrative divisions of the Ottoman Empire. The Iudaea-Palaestina region (later partitioned as Israel and Palestine) is based on the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate, Lebanon on the Lebanon Mutasarrifate, Syria on the Damascus Vilayet, Iraq on the Baghdad Vilayet, Jordan on the Karak Sanjak, and Kuwait on the Autonomous Kaza of Kuwait. There were other administrative divisions, but those ceased to exist when divided and absorbed, for example, the Beirut Vilayet, which was divided between the British and the French, was separated in northern, central and southern parts, the French northern part being absorbed into the Damascus Vilayet, the central into the Lebanon Mutasarrifate, and the British southern part into the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate. The Aleppo Vilayet was also divided between the Turks and the French and its southern part was absorbed into the Damascus Vilayet. The Basra Vilayet and the Deir ez-Zor Sanjak voluntarily chose to form part of the Baghdad Vilayet and the Damascus Vilayet respectively. The only ex-Ottoman administrative division that is still controversial today is the Mosul Vilayet, that could have become a state for the Kurds, but was instead merged with the Baghdad Vilayet, modern Iraq. As I explained, Transjordan, modern Jordan, was not only inhabited by a vast majority of Muslims, but it was also given the right to become independent, since it was the Karak Sanjak, one of the Ottoman administrative divisions conquered by the British. The Iudaea-Palaestina region, which was the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate, another Ottoman administrative division, which included the southern Beirut Vilayet, was partitioned between the Jews and Muslims, respecting the prior promises and trying to avoid the conflict between both, as they did in the British Raj (India and Pakistan).
@atollking201 I was referring to the 1921 Cairo agreement and subsequent 1922 border drawings, not the BalfurDeclaration... Even in The Balfur Declaration's Zionist interpretation (shown in the Cairo agreement), they did not claim all of transjorden only a small part of what is now Jorden (about ~7%) I have no idea where you brought the idea of the all of transjorden thing, but the balfur declaration did not state anything about population if I remember correctly so do tell me what interpretation you are referring to (send a link pls I really want to read more about the Balfur Declaration, because I only read the Zionist, king Abdullah and the PLO's interpretations) am referring mostly to the goal of the mandate made by the league of nations to create two states (a jewish state and an Arab state) in the borders of the mandate for Palestine as it was drawn including what is now Jorden I do have one question because the territory of what is now Israel was divided in itself to four Sanjaks during Ottoman rule, so I found the last paragraph you wrote a bit odd, can you explain a bit more so I can understand your statement better?
@@roeesadan8862 The Cairo Conference of 1921 does not change much what I am saying. The Zionists interpreted that the Balfour Declaration included Transjordan within Palestine and the Cairo Conference does the same. This inclusion is equally invalid, simply because there were previous promises that needed to be respected. I do not care either about the Zionist interpretation of the 7% of Transjordan. Transjordan was not inhabited by a Jewish majority, so why would anyone give even 1% to the Jews? I did not say that the Balfour Declaration mentions population, that is something that you said. The point is that the Muslims were promised a state in the territories inhabited by them and the Jews were promised afterwards a state too in the Iudaea-Palaestina region, but this promise is necessarily bound to respect the previous promise, which means that we should interpret these documents as establishing a state for the Jews only where Jews live, otherwise, territories that were mostly Arab would be included in the state for the Jews obviously, breaking the promise. You said that it was the first partition. No, both territories were separate as the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate and the Karak Sanjak during Ottoman administration. They were just put together by the British for administrative purposes, in fact, the League of Nations considered them different from the start, both had the right to become independent as two states. Even if the British or the League of Nations had actually merged both territories, then the merging is legally invalid because of the promises done before. As I said. As for my last paragraph, I do not understand your confusion. Maybe you are trying to argue that, since the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate was composed of sanjaks, why didn't they have the right to become independent themselves as the Karak Sanjak was? I guess that that is the argument, but it is fallacious. You see, the Ottoman Empire was divided in mutasarrifates, vilayets, autonomous kaza and autonomous sanjaks. The right of independence guaranteed by the League of Nations applied only to the first level of administrative divisions, in other words, there were sanjaks that were second level, like the ones that composed the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate and the absorbed southern Beirut Vilayet, but there were first level administration sanjaks, like the Karak Sanjak, that is why it was listed as a separate mandate that had a separate right to become independent, even though administered by the British as one for administrative purposes.
I live next to ones. Other then having to close down due to corona not much to complain. Good work, economy, living next to your family. What can a man want more?
@@AverageReplyer Long time peace = safety👮♀️, stability = economy💰 and a sustainable future = environment 🌱🌻 for your kids and grandchildren. That is what most people want in a world that sadly gets more and more unsafe every year ☹️
@@midsue Well... there never was world peace and probably never will be. I think our grandparents had it much worse, they actually went through 2 world wars, economical disaster that affected the whole world, wars in Israel and wars in other countries depending on where you are from... I honestly think we live in a better time in comparison even if it's not that great.
anyone with 2 eyes can see the VAST differences between life in israel and lebanon/syria. great education, healthcare system, free religious practicing and most of all freedom of speech.
Very intelligently reasoned video, also many excellent rebuttals below. Arguments can be made ad infinitum on both sides. However. Around the period of the two world wars, empires fell, millions of people were displaced and killed, boundaries shifted, countries were created and destroyed. Everyone has been a victim at some point. But there is today one group of people in the world who continue to wage a war they lost 75 years ago. At some point you have to accept the existing reality and figure out a way to reach a new equilibrium and live in peace. Not resort to terrorism when it's not even clear what your goals are, except to wipe out Israel. A two state solution has been proposed many times, and was rejected by the Palestinian side. The population of Gaza could easily be absorbed into other Arab nations, yet they refuse. You cannot expect that Israel will simply fold up and die. I don't agree with everything Israel has done, but on the whole what I see here is one side behaving as members of the modern world, and another side behaving as if we are still in the stone age. No way will I side with or have any sympathy for those who brutally and sadistically attacked innocents. They were offered a country of their own many times, and refused. Because what they want is to eliminate Israel. That ship has sailed. You fought the war, you lost. It might be unjust, or not perfectly just, but it's reality now. Stop trying to drag the rest of the world into the past. If those in Gaza would spend their millions in aid money on their population instead of on weapons and tunnels to slaughter innocents, they could be living so much better than Arabs in many neighboring countries. We are sick of your hatred and your fighting. Stop it.
I agree 100 percent with your very thoughtful and informative comment! I may add that the Arabs in that region were all on the side of the Nazis during World War 1 and 2 and the losing side usually suffers some consequences. These are the same Arabs that celebrated 9/11! Israel is accused of being Apartheid, yet there are over a million Muslims in Israel and not one Jew in Gaza, so who is apartheid? But you hit it on the head about the need for the Palestinians to move on because this is the only group of people allowed to be perpetual victims, and attacking Israel is not going to further the prospects of a 2 state solution! ( It's quite obvious that's not what they want) The useful idiots protesting on their behalf would be better served convincing the Palestinians to accept Israel as a nation!
It's very difficult to tell a people that lost their land and were herded into a prison to "move on". Let's think this through: you were born in the British Mandate of Palestine. Half a million Jews were shipped from lord knows where. They declared a country. War broke out, of course, because the British promised both the Zionist Jews land that was populated and the Arabs a state. You were expelled from your home and ended up somewhere in the West Bank. The war ended very quickly. You were told you were never going to go back to your home ever. You hate the Zionist Jews that won't allow you back into your home. Do you expect these same people to give people that obviously hate them a country with a functional military? Please. The Zionist Jews don't want a 2 state solution, just like how the Palestinians don't want a 2 state solution so they can return home. The 2 state solution is a joke. Even if a country called Palestine is created it will be a fake country that will never be allowed to defend itself. You need to wake up an realize how the world function. Might makes right. Unfortunately for Israel, it didn't wipe out the indigenous population. Thus, this is a hell they will deal with until the world order changes again. When it does, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a Jewish "Nakba". In conclusion, there will never be a 2-state solution and it was never possible to begin with. No country will ever allow the creation of another power next door that has a massive population that was just expelled from their very own country. It's like a rapist giving a knife to his victim! Similarly, a person expelled will not simply forget they were expelled. This is just common sense.
And to counter you position that the population of Gaza can just be absorbed into other Arab countries, shows your poor understanding of nation states and nationalism in general. No state will ever willingly accept millions of refugees. Just like how the European countries (including the US) would not accept and save the Jews even though Hitler was sending them to gas chambers. And yes he offered. There is a video on UA-cam with him gloating after they all refused to take them in.
I agree. However it is not only the palestinians that reguse to integrate in the neighbouring arab countries. A prime example is Jordan (or East Palestine as the Britist called it before Transjordan was established) where palestinians were isolated and refused citizenship, workpermits, land, education - anything needed to actually set up a new life. And thus being used as political pawns and kept in the refugee limbo by their muslim brothers. When Egypt ruled Gaza and Jordan ruled The West Bank 1948-67 neither established a Palestine for their fellow palestinian brothers.
@@davidslor7103 It seems that the Arab nations, and the Arabs that had lived in British Mandate Palestine ( they were not called Palestinians) were not so concerned about a Palestinian state till 1967 when Israel, in a defensive war took over Gaza from Egypt and the West Bank from Jordan. You hit it on the head when you said they were being used as pawns for the narrative that Israel was responsible for the plight of the Palestinians. They continue to be used as pawns because Hamas felt its citizens were expendable when they attacked on October 7th. If the civilians in Gaza had any sense they would use the Israeli military operation as an opportunity to rid themselves of Hamas. Instead, they choose to back Hamas, at their own peril!
Funfact: israel wasn't founded on empty land with no people but on territory where thousands of palestinians lived and opposed the creation of a new nation where they weren't consired by democratic vote= recepee for disaster.
And for thousands of years, many of those Palestinians were Jews. Palestine is a regional term, not a reference to an ethnic group. The history of the term is worth looking into.
Who is Palestinian back then? Jews? Christian? Oh you may mention Arab? What do you think the stone of Israel nowadays? Is this Zionism? What about the Jews refugees from other Arabs countries (that happened a cleansing ethnics targeted to Christians, Jews and numerous minorities) that made up more than half Israel's population? Yes, the land wasn't empty, there were Jews who lived there thousands of years, there were Christians live there since the beginning of Christianity, there were Arabs Muslims lived there from century 7 BC, there were Arabs from Egypt, Jordan, Syria,... migrated there in 1920s (bc at that time, British ruled all, there was no border and nation like nowadays), and there were Jews migrated there from 1800s before the Zionism,...... The land was not empty, the Jews before 1947 was not less than 10% (Al Jazeera said it's 11%), most land Jews received from UN are desert. Why there's a need of a new nation? 1, Jews in Midle East were in genocide, they need a land to settle down, and there's no more land appropriate than Judea. 2, It's my opinion, the Christianity in the Middle East was in alarming situation, it was nearly wiped out of the land it came from, the same goes with Jews, do they not deserve have a place for their religion? 3, Does Midle East have enough dictatorship government? Notes: Arabs in Israel have more human rights than Arabs in Middle East Muslim countries like Palestine
another fun fact : NAKBA does not mean the removal of Arabs from the land - which by the way the Ben Gurion and others asked the Arabs to stay and those who did live in a democracy today. Only few have actually been removed by the Israeli. Most were ordered to leave their land so that the Arab nations could rage their war. NAKBA indeed means catastrophe but it relates to the failure of the Arab nations to completely annihilate Israel. read the books of Constantine Zurayk
@@jutswheezie this doesn't make any sense because palestinian were the majority before 1948. How do you create a jewish majority state in a place where they're a minority
"Actually, we genocided the locals because they were of the same ethnicity as our war opponents" is an interesting way to justify expropriating homes of hundreds of thousands of people. What makes this different from a pogrom during Russia's Western expansion, where the exact same rhetoric of "foreign agents" was used. They were civilians, end of story and even if they left their homes voluntarily during the war it doesn't justify not getting them back when it ended.
"Palestinians" have Egyptian,Syrian,Saudi,Lebanese and Jordanian surnames for a reason. Ever heard of the mass Arab migration to Israel in the 1920's? Kinda doea away with the claims of being indigenous.
Bro, they were (and still are) an hostile population that was doing gorilla warfare, terror attacks, that called in the enemy and fought in their ranks. So how is anything your saying even practical? Do you even know what was going down? 😂
You forgot to mention 3 crucial things: 1. Most of Israelis who came before 1948 were socialists who wanted to share land and create peace, not expel anyone, and also Mizrahis who fled arab coutries due to being ethnically cleansed (you did mention the latter) 2. The socialists mostly BOUGHT land, but in a few cases the arab landlords kicked out tenant peasants before handing the land over to the socialists. 3. Some arabs fled because of Deir Yassin, which was a massacre of mostly innocent arabs by a small minority of RIGHT WING Jews. The arab media inflamed that story (it was horrible enough as it was) and put the fear of the "massacring Jews" into the hearts of many arabs, who fled.
@@ilhan5515 I think the policy was to only employ Kibbutz members, which happened to be Jewish. It was not meant to exclude anyone, it was meant to not exploit anyone for manual labor. The socialists believed that if you start employing others for manual labor, you develop a class structure, and start feeling superior.
There's new information on Deir Yassin, explaining that a bunch of artillery was brought into that village from Egypt days (I think 5 ) before. The Israelis found out, and that's a clear sign of a planned threat, they took hold of the area. I believe around half of them fled, and half took up their arms, mostly men, young and old, leaving the Irgun no choice but to fight and take them out. It seems it was a threat into battle, rather than a "massacre". Any policing group would have no choice but to respond in such a manner.
1. most israelis who came were disgusting settlers who wanted to create a jewish state without Palestinians, that's the core of Zionism. Sure, Arab jews who were kicked out of the ME was cruel and disgusting, but why do Palestinians have to pay the price for it? The fact Mizrahi jews are from the M.E. DOES NOT make them indigenous to Palestine, that's like saying that me as a French I am indigenous to Poland just cause I am European and Catholic. Why would Palestinians need to share the land with colonizers? 2. Never heard of the sursock purchase? 3. They were not a minority dear and you can see that in the IDF today, even the Haganah, the most leftist militia expelled dozens of villages Indienous identity is not based in "My ancestors lived here 2,000 ago so i am indigenous" or "God gave us this land so its ours", using religion to claim a piece of land is ignorant and ridiculous, notice how Palestinians use their canaanite ancestry, culture and identity to claim indigenous character, while Israelis say "well it says it in the torah", i can't take that claim as valid since its said in a magic book that was written BY JEWS. Ashkenazi Jews that arrived in Palestine were white, culturally European, dressed as europeans, spoke European languages like Yiddish and Polish, with blue eyes, do you really want me to believe they are indigenous to Palestine? Culture plays a huge role in indigenous character just as genetics. Also, you forgot to add to your socialist utopia: Kibbutzim normally excluded Arab labor and took their lands, this is pretty well documented. Y'all try SO HARD to be middle eastern that you started appropiating Arab food, sure Mizrahis have all the right to eat it, but let me remind you that the current wing of Zionism is EUROPEAN. Y'all love to call it "Israeli salad" yet it was appropriated from Palestinians in the Galilee. Of course Arab countries need to welcome back their Arab Jews and fight against Anti-semitism and accept that they took part in ethnic cleansing of many of them. But a huge part of them also went to Israel thanks to Zionist propaganda, Zionism CRUSHED the middle east and its unity, sure anti semitism existed and Jews were not equal to Muslims, but they had a better life in arab countries than in Europe, Zionism played a huge role in why anti semitism increased in the M.E. Israel is a colonial entity that needs to be erased from the map, the land should be returned to the indigenous Palestinians. While the governments of the world (including mine) are Zionist, these months have shown that humanity is with Palestine, and the IDF has been UNSUCCESFUL to destroy Hamas, the fact that on October 7th they humiliated you shows that Israel is not indestructible. Y'all weaponize the Holocaust so much yet y'all are doing the same, zionists wonder "uhh why are Palestinians so anti semitic" oh well, maybe because y'all have colonized, bombed, killed and expelled for the past 75 years. No, a 2 state solution is not viable, why do Palestinians have to agree to live with the flag that has killed them for generations? You really want me to feel bad about the people who think that Arabs are less intelligent, and that call Palestinians "human animals" and constaly show their racism. PD: Reminder the IDF killed 3 hostages, and the hostages that have been liberated looked like they took a trip to the maldives, while Palestinian hostages showed clear signs of torture. From France, on t'aime Palestine!
@@MattHazeMusic It is not clear how many took arms, because most of the village was supposed to be pacifists. The massacre was inexcusable (there were no human shields at the time, and the Irgunists went berserk, killing some obviously innocent people in cold blood), motivated by primal outgroup hatred. And this is mostly the domain of rightists like the Irgun and the Bibi coalition (a sociological fact, read Avi Tuschman for example). Anyway, my main point is that Deir Yassin was an exception to how arabs were treated, and it made sense that socialists would not steal land, so if any land was stolen, it was due to a very small rightist minority before 48, and after due to arabs who wanted to kill Jews and had to be expelled out of survival for the Jews. Totally different than what happened in South Africa or the US.
It boggles my mind how people would never support the idea of giving back Native Americans land because he lived here for 12,000 years, yet see no problem and giving land to people that claim they lived there 3000 years ago. What’s the difference?
Because it belonged to the Ottoman Empire, and when there's a dissolution of empires, there is a redistribution of land. In the same way that it came to be their land-- the inverse happened. You think Arabs came out of a little vagina in the ground? Land is owned by nations, not by ethnicities or a particular race.
The difference? First The natives didn’t claim the land anymore because they still live here in the US with full citizenship and all rights giving to them. The Jews didn’t just claim to be there for 3000y but they are actually stating facts. Also, it weren’t them that attacked first. So keep in mind if you are the aggressor and loose you will always lose land. Be happy Israel is on the good side and didn’t do much worse things to "Palestine"
The natives had no legal claim and the U.S. government made no attempt to give it to them. The persons with the interest in the landare expected to assert a legal claim, it is not a passive right. English Common Law has a doctrine of averse possession. Most native tribes were nomadic and did not meet the legal doctrine of occupying the land. Some settlers could have attempted to educate tribes about legal right - I don't know if that ever happened - whether lawyers were hired. Even today, our rights as Americans are not passive - which creates a culture where lawyers thrive. Jews have continuously lived in Israel for 3,500 years. Many Jews who ended up in Israel are ironically middle eastern Jews who were expelled from Islamic nations which were protesting the creation of the state of Israel in 1848. After the Holocaust and destruction of Europe, Jews could not go to Europe and they were too poor to immigrate to the U.S. - which at the time had a restrictive immigration policy. Israel accepted the middle eastern Jewish immigrants with only the clothes on their backs, as Israel still does to dispossed Jews. Later many badly treated Soviet Jews emigrated to Israel from Russian and other Soviet states. The Holocaust narrative is now almost as if its from the Hebrew Bible - Jews are willing to risk the condemnation of other nations to never be helpless like they were in the Warsaw ghetto. Many Arabs also claim an ancient home in Israel, and other Arabs are migrants
Why would anyone need their consent? They were allowed in that territory but the previous colonial power. The Jews had just as much right to be there as the Arabs.
@@seanmurphy7953 If the people already living there did the same thing to the ones before the Cough cough "Arab conquest" cough cogh , it is , most Jews including those you say are colonizers , can trace thier root comfortably to The Levant. Arabs or Palastinais have no better or worse claim to this land , sorry to disappoint.
i am an arab israeli, and there are a lot of lies and myths towards this, many arabs weren’t expelled, many left on their own because of the war and many arab leaders told palestinians to leave because they were going to destroy Israel, war sucks and both jews and arabs suffered a lot, but this is what happens in all of the wars, many refugees from the ww2 in countries like poland were also expelled and never allowed to go back to their land and homes. i am a proud arab citizen of the state of Israel and i have no other flag than this one 🇮🇱
“Many Arabs weren’t expelled” how do you think the state was formed? And let’s go with your logic your Arab why do you deny your fellow Arab the right to live in their ancestral homeland? Those Arabs are possibly your family members because many families ended up split. I don’t understand why you don’t see an issue
@@Zaabi when the heck did I deny that we also have the right to live in the land? If jews wanted to expel all arabs they wouldn’t have let 150,000 palestinians to stay, you’re so ignorant
@@Zaabi these fellow Arabs also have relatives through out the Levant. Too bad their fellow Arab relatives do not grant them citizenship while maintianing them on refugee status for ages just for spite. This video also mentions "Mizrachi Jews" 700,000 of which immigrated to Israel after being ethnicly cleansed not from Europe but nighboring Arab Countries. How convenient of you to ingnore this fact. Israel has absorbed all of them , and is now still relatively small and condensed in papulation as is. Arab Countries have all the space they need and then some. So logiclly , it would now make much more sense for everyone to stay where they are at and concentrate on vital issues such as economic development rather than waste resources waging war while constantly purchacing weapons.
@@israteeg752 ok I’ll reply to each segment of your comment separately- Arabs give each other citizenship you need to fit into certain criteria to get citizenship. Nobody is owed citizenship also why should they? They have their own identity that’s unique to them I know you think all Arabs are the same (by seeing how you think all Arabs can just hope wherever they want) ask a Palestinian and ask them if they’ll take any other Arab citizenship and renounce any right to their ancestral homeland, go for it.
@@dlfincher6887 that’s not what I said but that’s what you focus on? Coincidentally that’s what the Arab agenda is. As I said: the other Nakba is never to be heard, though it’s been of even bigger dimension. Why is this? I guess because some like to be eternal victims and blame others.
Look up Mossad operations to attract Mizrahi Jews from Morocco, Yemen and Iraq in the 50's, before you spread Zionist propaganda! "Operation Yachin", "Operation Flying Carpet" and "1950-51 attacks of Baghdad" should help!
@@bryanstark1930 typical Zionist instead of debating with facts you throw the magic words : antisemitic / Khamas / Nasrala / Nazi 🤡😂 this is no longer working you’re exposed to the whole world your apartheid & ethnic cleansing is clear for the blind & deaf too
My mother's family was ethnicly cleansed from Yemen and Irak, and from Spain as well earlier on (you mean 500 years ago, are we seriously going that far on the victimhood?) My people was massacred by the Arab conquerors in the year 800, I am a victim too.
Weird thing to not hear about The Deir Yassin massacre since we’re talking about racial cleansing and Arab expulsion! This series is so miss leading! I recommend anyone interested about this topic to watch Born in Deir Yassin documentary which is directed by Neta Shoshani (an Israeli director).
Dier Yassin happened because the Arabs had a 5 month blockade of Jerusalem that not 1 truck could get through, if you want to know the truth about Dier Yassin watch *"Palestinian Leader Hazem Nusseibah admits to false reports of rape"* as well as *"Dier Yassin (mirror)"*
Deir Yassin was one of many massacres in the 1948 war. It was a war crime, yes, but it wasn't unparalleled or unusual in it's cruelty, brutality or illegality compared to the invading Arab armies who discriminately or purposely massacred Israeli Jewish civilians. Also the Haganah which later became the IDF as well as prominent Jewish organizations condemned the Deir Yessin massacre.
Sorry but it all started way before you suggest. The international community took the land off Turkey (it was part of the Turkish Ottoman Empire) because the Turks had supported Germany in WW1. In 1922 the League of Nations (precursor to the UN) ordered the British, by a directive known as the British Mandate, to create a Jewish state in that area of the Ottoman Empire known as Palestine (It has never been a country). The British realised that this was going to be difficult and so used a technical loophole, in their Mandate, to use the majority of the Palestinian land to create an Arab state called Jordan. The international community realised that the British had to leave the Mandate land (the remaining small portion of the Palestine area) in 1948. The UN, which had taken over responsibility for the affairs of the League of Nations, and, in 1947, proposed a two state solution which was rejected by the Arab parties. The British left, Israel was created and the Arab League of five nations (including Jordan) decided to invade the new state of Israel. The Arab league wanted to avoid killing Arab civilians and so recommended that the Arab civilians abandon their land and head south until the end of the war. The hostilities ceased with cease fire lines around Gaza and the West Bank.
Oh, say what, they Arabs rejected the plan of a two state solution?! Guess what, nobody usked my ancestors in Germany if we were okay with the devision of our land and society. But only the hatred on jews is driving this double standard of yours. " The Arab league wanted to avoid killing Arab civilians" - Oh yeah you are playing victim again. Why in this world would a group of people who has been persecuted and even gased by Nazis, Millions of them, be interested in doing the same to Arabs? All they wanted is peace but the very first attacks started by Arabs on Jews! Thats a matter of fact and then the violence quickly escelated. Google it ;)
it was always palestinian land because the palestinians were living there, being colonised by the ottomans and british doesn’t make it theres to slice up and give away as they please
Carrying out a holocaust in Gaza and Rafah while playing victims. Thanks for social media, you are exposed. You’ll are worse than Hitler your master himself.
Every single human in existance can have status of victim if you go far enough back in history. Lets just deal with what is happening right now and why, and how to stop it.
Most current Palestinians were born in a concentration camp. All were born in a territory controlled by a colonial apartheid power, given no rights to speak of and often harassed, jailed or put into other inhumane states of being. Not to mention intentionally kept at a level just above starving by israel. There is no economy there, israel does not allow it. I could go on and on about how they are not just mad about what israel has done to their ancestors, and how they might be able to see where their family lived in generations past if they look overtop of the prison fence keeping them in gaza, but they're also mad about BEING IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP.
If only the ppl who created Israel would've accepted ur argument of "everyone's ancestors suffered" instead of " well they stole the land from the Jews first"
"You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt" - Leviticus 19:33-34
I thought the Palestinians welcomed the Jews originally. Is Israel the only country in the world where you have to prove you are (are a certain race) Jewish or can prove you are connected to Jewish people (married to a Jewish person) to immigrate to Israel? If any other country did that it would be called racism. When Christian were fleeing persecution Netanyahu said Israel did not have room for them. I am for all people being treated with respect but we all have to own our part of what our history is. Next video cover who owned many of the slave trading boats.
Don't believe this video! The bunch of bullshit they are spewing!! Bruh I'm from Yemen and until today we have Yemeni Jews! They've lived there forever. This propaganda video literally skips the Balfour declaration and how those 700k Palestinians were forcibly kicked out cause those 700k lived in the Palestinian cities that the IDF turned into "Israel" Cities.
They never welcomed the Jews The Turkish and Egyptian landlords did, in exchange for “Hebrew gold” but as soon as the Jews were no longer dhimis once the British took over from the Turks the Arabs began a campaign of multiple pogroms
Your last sentence alone indicates you're an antisemite who's bought hook, line, and sinker the myths promoted by the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan.
In the Western World, YES! Israel is not a Democracy. It is a Theocracy. They operate on Executive Privilege so they can oppress Palestinians without impunity while never having to face the penalties for committing Terrorism and war crimes.. The West Bank is the longest standing occupation in the World in modern History. Palestinians have the Right to exist.
Why should Israel welcome christian refugees and not england, the US, France or many more christian countries? Why should Israel welcome people from a religion that persecuted the jews for 1500+ years??? Also, you don't have to be jewish in order to be a citizen of Israel. In fact, more than 20% of Israel's population aren't jews (they are arab) You seem to lack critical knowledge in history and Judaism that would help you to understand why the jewish people need a specific country of their own, so please, do your research.
While the information in this video is not necessarily incorrect, I do not believe it paints an accurate picture. While it is understandable that Jewish refugees needed to relocate, one cannot expect a country to have half of its land taken from it and stay silent. The arab attacks were completely understandable, and should have been accounted for given that half of Palestine was given to the Jews. Secondly, I do not think that the expulsion of or crimes against the Jews living in arab countries is justified by any means. However, crimes were committed on both sides. Israel continued to take more land from Palestine after the agreement, something that is not mentioned in the video. There are also countless UN violations and crimes being committed against Palestinians today. The Palestinian territories are being converted into Jewish neighborhoods, and Jews are persuaded to move into these homes. Both sides have reasons to blame the opposing side for being unjust. However, we cannot deny that what happened and is happening to Palestine is unjust and inhumane.
@@SafetySpooonI think it has something to do with that land not being part of their history. The UK caused many of the problems in the Middle East following WW2. You can’t just start borders with no respect to ethnicity, creed, religion, historical boundaries, etc. and think that everything is going to be hunky dory
@@0501Cocoa Mandatory Palestine. There were 7 times more Muslims there than Jewish people when it was created and almost as many Christian Palestinians as Jewish people. But Palestine has roots all of the way back to antiquity. Jewish people stated immigrating there in droves over the next two decades. Their population increased by 7 fold until there were over 500,000 Jewish people in Palestine. This was deliberate. They wanted a Jewish state and they wanted from Palestine’s land. The Muslim population was over 1 million at this time with over 100,000 Palestinian Christians. The UN adopted a TWO STATE SOLUTION in 1947 where the State of Israel would be given land from Palestine. Israel established itself a country and any Jewish person could immigrate to Israel and become an Israeli citizen. Palestine rejected this and a war was fought. Israel won and then took lands that were not part of the UN deal and were against international law. They expelled 700,000 Palestinians from their homeland. Israel has rejected a two-state solution ever since which was THE DEAL for them getting a country in the first place. They took Jerusalem and most of the West Bank. Later they took the Golan Heights, also against international law. And since Israel is backed by the US and has a very advanced military(with US help) and nuclear weapons(also with US help), the Palestinians can’t do much to get their land back. Jerusalem was supposed to be under international control under the two state solution. But both Palestine and Israel declare it their capital. They both have deep historical and religious ties to the land. The Israelis essentially run an apartheid state at the moment. Gaza is a place that is blockaded by land, sea, and air. If any other country blockaded another country’s land, airspace, and coast, it would be considered an act of war. Till this day, Israeli settlers take Palestinian land and homes in the West Bank. Google “Israeli settler violence” and you’ll find ample evidence of this.
@@0501Cocoawhatever man. You think you’re so clever like no one has said that before. Regardless of technicalities, if you are unable to see a moral issue in this then you are objectively immoral
Most countries achieve independence by either overthrowing their own government to install a new government (Russia, France) or overthrow a colonial government that is oppressive (half of Africa and South America). Israel's War of Independence in 1948-9 was against the invading neighbors - the British had already left. (OOPS!)
@@khubza8999 The declaration of Independence formally the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel was proclaimed the same day when the British mandate was terminated. So in other words the formal Independence from the Brits, de facto Establishment of the state.
@@khubza8999 how are they immigrants if they been there since 1300 B.C.E🤔? I’m black Muslim btw I’m just stating what I’ve seen historically. It’s like calling native Americans immigrants in the Americas , I’m just saying and not taking sides here.
Zuheir Mohsen was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979. 1977 Interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw: " The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity."
Herodotus thought otherwise. He called it Palestine 500 BC. Your narrative was encouraged to gain the support of Arab people. Go check El maqdisi 11th century Ibn Batuta Old world maps Coins. Besides if there were lybians Lebanese Syrians. - only Palestinians didn’t exist ?
Before the British had it, the Ottomans had control, before the Ottomans it was the Christian Crusaders, before them, it was the Saladin and the Ayyubid dynasty, before the Saladin it was the Christian Crusaders again, then the Caliph Omar, the Christian Byzantines, the Persians, then the Roman Empire-- who expelled many of the ancestors of those European Jews. I could go on. There was Alexander the Great, the Babylonians, the Assyrians, none of which were native to the land, yet colonized it several times over. It is a land that has been handed from empire to empire for generations, yet when the expelled ancestors of the indigenous population want to move back, it's suddenly immoral? I'm sorry, but that makes no sense to me.
@obyarnold599 Those European Jews are the descendants of the native peoples of Judea and Samaria, who were then expelled by the Roman Empire, which is a big part of how the Jewish Diaspora began. The land had been occupied by one empire or another for hundreds of years. The Babylonians had control, then the Persians, then the Greeks, the Romans, the Arabs, then the Christian Crusaders, and eventually the Ottomans (a Muslim empire) who handed it over to the British after WW1. It flies in the face of history to say that this is only Palestinian land when Jews have lived there and were expelled from there before the Palestinian identity even existed. Both groups have a right to live in their ancestral homeland, and this selective reading of history you've put forth only causes more violence, suffering, and conflict by erasing the history of an entire race of people. Not cool.
I think Arabs have to take this one on the chin, they took plenty of land from people. They could have made Palestinian state if they had accepted a small israelí state. They chose war instead , still Israel should give Palestinians their rights
Arbz in Israel have the same rights as any other citizen. The others are not citizens. They get their rights, or lack thereof, from the PA & the Hamassholes. Israel doesnt owe those who have been trying to destroy the Jewish nation for a century straight a d-mn thing. ... but your right, about the rest. Those Arbz would have had a state decades ago if that was their actual goal and they most definitely need to deal with the consequences of their own poor and hostile choices for a change.
@@starhopper408 you are right about hamas and plo but there is definitely discrimination from the israeli side too,like how they treat Arabs from the West Bank .The killing of innocent civilians is unacceptable , I know hamas and such doesn’t care about any innocent people but you have to be better than them . I believe both side have to admit to wrongdoing. Palestinians have to understand Israel have a right to exist and Israel have to protect/care for the Palestinians. We are all human
@@kingmir5 Arbz that live in Judea & Samaria are not citizens, they are the ones that insist on being the enemy. Israel doesn't owe them anything. And Israel doesn't k anyone for $h*tz & giggles either, nor are most of those killed anywhere near innocent. Occasionally truly innocent people are harmed however, but that too is due to the environment the Arbz insist on creating. When you have no idea what man, woman or child will be the next terrorist, $h*t like that is unavoidable no matter how you try to avoid it. ... and btw, we are all human, very true, but we do not all have the same mentality, values, etc. That makes a big difference.
@@kingmir5 Innocents that die exists in every war sadly. This is not specifically in Israel. Also, if we speak about deaths in Gaza, it is because Hamas is using their civilians as human shields. The Gaza bishop admitted it, so did a Finnish reporter, and much more.
The Palestinians should have been allowed back. Not all who were pushed out had violent tendencies. This is like saying all the rioters during the pandemic were the result of an entire people. War is chaotic but to not allow the citizens of their land back to their homes is wrong. But I can also understand that the situation isn’t entirely simple and straight forward. Perhaps if the Palestinian citizens came back where their land now occupied by Israeli military, some would have been hostile towards the Israelis and create ground militias in opposition to the Israeli troops occupying their land. The strategy to hold on to the land by keeping out any possible threat is equivalent to throwing out the baby with the bath water. Many land natives were probably secular and didn’t have any particular religious agenda or affiliation to some racial pan-Arab plan. Most probably just wanted to coexist and live in peace, but mostly they just wanted to keep their homes.
unfortunatelly it's called collateral damage. Every war has them. That's why you need to be very careful chosing your leaders. So they don't lead you to war like Palestine leaders did.
Palestinians have a history of antisemitism since 1926, in which the entire Jewish population of the city of Hebron was erased by Arab mobs over a fake rumor that the Jews were planning to seize some historical site. Only British military intervention brought it to an end, though too late. Palestine not only was a lesser-known Axis power and Arab ally to Nazi Germany, but also a collaborator and co-conspirator in Hitler’s Holocaust. The grand mufti of Palestine spun up a PR campaign recruiting Bosnian Muslims into the Waffen SS, the armed forces of the infamous German military branch known for extensive war crimes, as part of their combined anti-Jewish efforts. Many of these Bosnian Muslims were paroled to go home by Allied forces when they pinned the blame for their actions on “orders forced upon them by evil white Germans”; instead of going home, they went to Palestine to become trainers for its Arab League coalition fighters in terror tactics and combat training specifically aimed against Jews. When Zionists settlers started coming, those Arabs weren’t waiting to expel them. They were planning to exterminate the Holocaust survivors.
@@Offa7a The term "Palestine" is not found on any extant Hellenistic coin or inscription. In other words, there is no attestation for its use in an official context in the Hellenistic period. "Palestine" did not come into official use until the early second century a.d., when the emperor Hadrian decided to rename the province of Judaea; for its new name he chose "Syria Palaestina." In other words what is attributed to Herodotus seems to be a scribal error or later "correction."
@@1czechit1BS BS BS Herodotus called it Palestine 500 BC He pin pointed it Between Phoenicia and Egypt Some of the highest quality wine used to be produced there. El Maqdesi (11th century) called it Palestine and on lointedmost of the towns their non BS Hebrew Names. Ibn Batuta Calked it Palestine. Many many old maps pointed it as Palestine. In the mean time have you found your city of David. Any proof of your cartoonish exodus. Israel is a settler colonial apartheid. Shut up.
@@1czechit1 BS BS BS Herodotus called it Palestine 500 BC He pin pointed it Between Phoenicia and Egypt Some of the highest quality wine used to be produced there. El Maqdesi (11th century) called it Palestine and on lointedmost of the towns their non BS Hebrew Names. Ibn Batuta Calked it Palestine. Many many old maps pointed it as Palestine. In the mean time have you found your city of David. Any proof of your cartoonish exodus. Israel is a settler colonial apartheid. Shut up.
@@sorrybro4890 Everything does come to an end, I'll agree with that statement, but this is not the past. There is no possibility of mil itary victory for them. They can only lose or really, really, really lose.
I never quite understood the Israel's founding myth. It's like someone broke into my home attempting to steal my stuff and I tried to defend myself and my property, but I was killed in the process. The guy get's a good lawyer and not only does he get off by claiming self defense, but he is awarded all my stuff for me inconveniencing him by defending myself. But the final insult is that I'm now suppose to be the villain of the story.
We’re glad you acknowledge that you don’t quite understand. Sounds you should learn more about the history - about the Ottoman Empire, the British Mandate of Palestine, the Hebron riots of 1929, the Peel Commission, the UN Partition Plan, the resulting Arab war of Arab 1947, and finally Israel’s Declaration of Independence and the resulting war, which Arabs call the Nakba. We actually have a whole playlist of these videos here: ua-cam.com/play/PL-DNOnmKkUabY07UJYCRIYTu0X9IdVQb0.html Let us know if you’d like more recommendations - we have 100s more videos!
@@UNPACKED Well I am currently reading "The Hundred Years' War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917--2017" by Rashid Khalidi, would that be a good start?
Depends. Some have critiqued him for romanticizing Palestine and demonizing Israel, which makes his retelling of history seem untrustworthy. Definitely encourage you to learn from multiple sources and perspectives if you want a full understanding. And especially if you don’t understand Israel’s side, you should try and listen to Israel’s side too
@@UNPACKED I have, I have read the Pulitzer Prize winning Arab and Jew by David K Shipler which helps me to understand what it is like for the various people that populate the area. It didn't seem to romanticize either side. I have read Tony Judt's epic book on postwar Europe which describes the creation of Israel and the political circumstances surrounding it. I have read "1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War" by Benny Morris. I have read "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe and other books by this same author. ------------------------------------- Some books I have net yet gotten round to reading: "1967" by Tom Segev - "Paris 1919" by Margaret MacMillan - "Shattered Dreams: The Failure of the Peace Process in the Middle East 1995-2002" by Charles Enderlin - "Kingmakers: The Invention of the Modern Middle East" by Karl E. Meyer & Shareen Blair Brysac - "A History of the Arab Peoples" by Albert Hourani - "Yiddish Civilisation: The Rise and Fall of a Forgotten Nation" By Paul Kriwaczek - "A History of the Jews" By Paul Johnson - "The Secret History of the American Empire" by John Perkins - "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" by Jimmy Carter - "Israel/Palestine: How to End the War of 1948" by Tanya Reinhart (plus the works of prolific writers such as Noam Chomsky & Naomi Klein)
Why don't you ever interview Palestinians as well? When this channel first launched I had hope that it would be a new space for discourse which would connect between the youth if the two sides. Sadly it has become a one sided space looking to impose it's views instead of listening to others.
Read the Old Testament, the Jews are "the chosen people" because Abraham is the father of all people and God gave Abraham all of what is known now as the Holy Land. That was 5000 years ago, what you people are talking about is in the last century. There were no Arabs 5000 years ago. There were no Palestinians 5000 years ago. So when the Jews say "The Bible is their ownership of land", that is what they are talking about, the Old Testament.
@@hanna319 you are saying you don't believe the Quran because it is more recent than the Jewish bible? does authenticity counted from which is the oldest? Also, the only reason I think you don't believe in prophet Muhammad was because he is an Arab. Racism?
Gotta give credit where its due, Arabs are able and willing to send tens of thousands of troops to die anytime and they keep doing it while the other side are happy to despatch the troops to the next life.
2000 years ago Romans kicked the Jews off there land and Romans called that land Palestine. The Jews had two kingdoms there prior to the Romans forced exodus of Jews. As far as I know there was never a Palestinian kingdom prior to that time or since. Arabs lived there but it was nomadic tribes that occupied those lands. My understanding is that it was swamp land before that. Why do Palestinians lay claim to the land after the fact.
Arab Palestinians only. The Arab pan nationalism movement wanted to keep the entire region of their former empire. They wanted to govern the area and didn't want Jews to be the government nor to share government. It was the same during Indian independence. Muslims could stand coexisting with Hindus. So they all moved north into a new country called Palestine. They didn't try to destroy India and India did not try to destroy them. They sucked it up and got on with building their countries. There are external forces controlling Palestine and sabotaging every moment of peace, every chance to join the UN as an independent country. Lots of Arab warlords are getting rich on Palestinian misery. That's the truth of it.
@@codybitme The whole idea of seperation was stupid to begin with, the British tried it in india and caused the muslims and hinus in the land, which before then have been living together without any problems, to become enemies. I believe if they left us israelies and Palestinians to form a nation ourselves, we could have created one equal state without this conflict.
Funny how the jews returned to their land, fought extremely hard for it, and had to give parts of it back. They literally offered more land to the palestinians but they decided they want all the land which is why their "country" is not officially recognised yet. There are almost 3 million arabs in israel who live in peace and have full rights AND are treated in hospitals, yet people complain that the jews don't want peace.
Returned to thier land , as a palestinina you cant deny me from my land i have jewish arab western asian greek and north african dna it doenst matter what you say you cant deny my connection
@@afterchangey2554 I agree, hope one day this conflict will be behind us and we will live together in peace within one state for israelis and Palestinians alike
@@afterchangey2554 Most "Palestinans" were not fron that land, but came from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and other countries. The Jews appealed to the Arabs ti stat in their houses and to help them build a country together - Thst had 5 other Arab armies attack the 1 day old Israel The Palestinians lost 5 wars and 2 intafadas.,and as the loser now they want to return??? It doesn't work that way
@@rachelsamuel3328 you clearly didn't research enough, palestinians never fought a war Palestine never had an army, also look up Oslo accords , and no I did a dna test and I do have Jewish in fact I think i even have more Samaritans jews than you
All Balestinians need to support Israel, because 80% of them are Jews who were forced to convert to Islam during the middle ages, and beacuse Israel treats them so respectfully. God bless Israel! 🇮🇱🕎.
@@muzz444 if you are already a citizen, you are not a Palestinian 😊 It means you are an Israeli Arab. And regarding to your religion, it's a pity, because Judaism is the source of monotheism, so one must celebrate the fact he has Jewish genes! 🎉
During Abraham's time, war was could NOT be avoided. Either u fight or die. When the Israelites returned from Egypt to the Promised Land of Canaan, they conquered their way through & continued to do so after they have settled on their land. Unlike the Arabs, they waged war in 1948 & after being defeated, played victims as refugees. The land was the Jews, they defended it successfully & now they are the illegal occupiers.
@@samuuluinavucu1246 Well, I didn't defend the methods of Zionism, only that Zionism is an ancient ideology. I would only note that you say "unlike the Arabs..." but that ignores the fact that Arabs fought as well, on both sides. Both sides are at fault for the violence of course but to put all the blame on the Jews is to lie. Arabs fought alongside the Jews to establish the state of Israel in 1948, while Jordan, Egypt, and other Arab states invaded to prevent such a state from existing. As you said, war is as ancient as Abraham and unfortunately is still with us and sometimes is necessary (nevertheless tragically) to bring about justice.
The British mandate is not even mentioned Unpacked is largely a Isreal funded channel and I am unsubscribing. Not all Jews are isreali and not all Israelis are Jews. A Jew is a person allied with God and believing in the Torah doing good deeds and forbidding bad ones. Zionism is what Israelis follow. Jews follow the Word of God and follow what is Good and right not whatever they want
To answer your question yes Israel did expel Palestinian Arabs in an operation proposed by David Ben-Gurion known as Plan Dalet and executed by the Haganna. This lead directly to the Arab invasion by other countries.
If you want to learn more, we made a whole video about that: ua-cam.com/video/wjysy7ONisA/v-deo.html We've actually made dozens of videos talking about the history of this conflict - unpacking everything you mentioned, and a lot more. I encourage you to check them out and understand more of the real history of Israel, the context and realities of this terrible conflict.
I find it very interesting that in multiple videos, they've mentioned that Palestine was the only safe place that Jews could be, even before the establishment of Isreal. It's almost like the native population there, of Muslims and Christians supported and welcomed them to the holy land.
And its almost like, if it wasn't for the creation of state of Israel by zionists, jews wouldn't have been expelled from Arab land or Persia in which they had lived there for centuries and prospered mostly in peace and harmony.
It's almost like, everybody including the muslims and christians of those times understood that the jewish connection to israel was as strong, or even stronger than their own. not like today's palestinians who claim jews have no connection to the land, and that we're all of european decent! not to mention that the ottoman empire controlled the land, and they were very open to the migration of jewish people, so whether or not the locals cared didn't matter! also can't forget that the jewish community in israel has been around since they were exiled by the roman empire - it was just a much much smaller community, who had to be complicit with the roman rule, and the rule of those who came after. It's also funny that the creation of israel justifies racism and ethnic cleansing towards jews?¿ like damn if it wasn't for the jewish people finding sovereignty in the only place it makes sense for them to, we wouldn't of expelled them from our land or massacred them, even though these jews have absolutely nothing to do with the creation of israel. Palestine was a successful colonialist project, and the palestinian people were complicit with the ottoman empires goals to colonize land that isn't theirs! That all ended when the jews rightfully returned to the land that was theirs, being even more forgiving than the occupational governments that came before them toward a group of people (palestinians) who only play nice if the jews are submissive.
It’s almost as if, the local Muslim and Christian populations weren’t the ones running the area. And the idea that Jews would have prospered in Islamic lands if we hadn’t fled…what a good joke 😂
Your family could’ve stayed in the UK or America, Canada and 100s of other countries and was it a coincidence that Zionism’s idea was born before WW1???
There were many Palestinians live all across Palestine. And yes they were displaced and the people who did did not leave we're killed and some Palestinians were burned. There are videos for Israel i solders admitting killing Palestinians, after 1948, but they have doing that since 1948.
I don't know about the videos you were talking about, things weren't one sided as you decribed. Arabs tried to kill Jews even BEFORE 1948 or 1947. Im 1929 there killed and kicked out many. So why when it's the other way around it's not okay all of a sudden?
@@aseelsbox5111 Palestinians were offered a two state solution and refused, then proceeded to join the Arab Coalition in attacking in 1947. You are not a victim nor a resistor for literally attempting to surprise attack and murder others, failing at it, and then your own actions causing others to decide to kill you One day after the Jewish people were given the land in 1947, 5 surrounding Arab states attacked them, instead of attacking the British specifically for breaking their promise of land to the Palestinians which was a ruse for them to fight for the British, which was also a lie that they fed to the French as well, so using the argument of "Arabs helped fight for the land and didn't get any!" as your argument means that you'd also have to think that the French are also entitled to a portion of the land. The Arab Coalition (with a chunk of Palestinians) waited for the nation's establishment and then initiated the first attack against those Jewish people several times across decades and lost every single time.
The Palestinian people were private land owners of their houses and crops, and were expelled from them. This is a much more direct impact over who is administering government.
Lots of the land, lived on by Israeli..were sold to them by absentee landowners....who ridiculed the Jews for paying good money..for SAND..... Only through hard work was the land made arable
@@hisham_hm The British Land Survey of 1945. showed that the Palestinians only owned 3.3% of the land. The wealthy Arab absentee land owners owned only 16.5% of the land, the Jews owned 8.6% of the land and 70% of the land was State Land transferred by the Ottomans to the British and then to Israel. Israel was created bu almost 80% of non-Arab owned lands,,there was no land stolen, the Palestinians were not land owners they were Bedouins and felahims (tenant farmers)
So while it is true that you do not deny that the Nakba happened, your approach to it was that it was merely a “wartime decision” that could not have been avoided, and that what was done to Israelis was far worse. That’s actually way worse than just denying it because you make it sound like the Palestinians deserved it.
How are you guys victims of a war you started? You were the ones going the Jewish settlements and areas and attacking them, then cry victims when they drove back your attacks and drove your militias and people away. Jewish settlers were taking uninhabited land and did not intrude on Muslim land, but you had to uphold Dar-Islam and attack them for being non-Muslims coming into Muslim land (previously Jewish and Christian land that stolen by Muslim during the Islamic conquests) You started a war because you didn't want Jews living next to you and you lost, you're not the victim. During and before the war, you guys actively displaced Jews and there are still Jews descendants of those who were displaced then you play victim and Jews evicting Palestinian communities that were attacking them is somehow bad.
Nakba is Muslims ordered and lured out of their homes by Arab leaders and then being abandoned by them. The Arab countries expelled their Jewish communities and stole their property.
@@toade1583this is the kind of mental sickness that nationalism creates in people. you’re saying that because some Arabs attacked Jewish settlers, then that makes killing or expelling other Arabs from their land perfectly acceptable because they’re part of the same ethnic group that wronged you, the same logic that extremists on the Palestinian side use to justify attacking random Jewish civilians. That’s called collective punishment and it’s a war crime.
Not minimizing the total number, but you’re referring to the number that were proven to be expelled by Israeli forces - which was not hundreds of thousands.
Sigh. The Arab Executive Committee, among others, ordered the evacuation ahead of their invasion. They lost, but refused all compromises that would have resettled "Palestinians" back on their homesteads because to do so would be to recognize Israel as a nation. There's a lot more to the story, like Israeli reparations to the Arabs, and the protection act Custodian of Abandoned Property, but that sums it up. Fom the Refugee Conference at Homs, Syria: Any discussion aimed at a solution of the Palestine problem which will not be based on ensuring the refugees’ right to annihilate Israel will be regarded as a desecration of the Arab people and an act of treason (Beirut al Massa, July 15, 1957).
“The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism. “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.” -Zahir Muhsein, PLO executive committee member, in a March 31, 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper “Trouw”.
Not exactly. At the time of the Arab revolt against the British in the 30th, their Mufti Hag Amin El Husseini wanted to give the local Arab people a nationality and he came out with the invention they are PA's and also gave them false history. It's also true that this region was called by the British Palestina - AI.
@@shainazion4073 The KGB?? It was the Mufti at the 30th during the big revolt against the British. Can you show where you saw that the KGB was involved?
They were not called Jews, the word Jew is a new term. The Torah/Bible called the children of the Most High Hebrews or Israelites. The letter “J” is only 400 to 500 years old. Both I and J were used interchangeably by scribes to express the sound of both the vowel and the consonant. It wasn’t until 1524 when Gian Giorgio Trissino, an Italian Renaissance grammarian known as the father of the letter J, made a clear distinction between the two sounds. It is so hard to get the truth from the deceivers. Who controls the truth on the earth? “who teacheth us more than the beasts of the earth, and maketh us wiser than the fowls of heaven? There they cry, but none giveth answer, because of the pride of evil men. Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it.” Job 35:11-13 KJVAAE “For the Lord is great, and greatly to be praised: he is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the Lord made the heavens.” Psalm 96:4-5 KJVAAE All religions are pagan both wood and stone.
Hey Unpacked I generally like your videos, some of your recent videos have concerned me quite a bit as much of the history you are giving is wildly inaccurate or missing critical chunks of historical information that need to be explained. You actually had someone on your videos say Palestinians are indigenous to Israel? This is demonstrably false. Historical events like the San Remo conference, treaty of Sevre and other parts of history like Arab Radio saying “leave your homes as we drive the Jews into the Sea” you suggest are just another equal narrative, but the radio broadcast exist. this isn’t opinión it is fact and I have heard the broadcasts to prove it. It’s ok to present both sides just actually tell people important contexts that drastically change your skewed narrative. These videos seem extremely self flagellating, while at the same time historically inaccurate.
@@Lvsl_iftdv because they are a loose conglomeration of Arabs who migrated to Israel during the Ottoman and Jordanian periods 75% of which came in the last 150 years concomitant to the rise of Zionist immigration, the Arabs here vary greatly between region, tribe, Bedouin vs non Bedouin, north south middle, and country of origin. many of whom have habitacional names like Al masri (Egyptian), Al Saada (Saudi), Al hejazi (saudi), and many more. The Arabic they speak can be different depending on region and tribe, and many of them were force converted Jews and Samaritan’s during the Ottoman period, they are not indigenous they are a byproduct of Ottoman colonialism. Saying they are indigenous makes about as much sense as calling French people indigenous to England, or English indigenous to the United States.
@@Lvsl_iftdvPalestinians are Arabs. Arabs are as indigenous to the Holy Land as they are to Iran, Iraq, India, or any other country they invaded and colonized.
They are also extremely biased with how they bring up certain topics and constantly try to make themselves appear morally superior and blatantly disregard key facts in this conflict. On top of that this is a sponsored post and this entire UA-cam channel is clearly centred around trying to spread propaganda.
Personally I don’t see why the Israelis can’t have their own sovereign country considering the historical complexity they have been forced to endure. I know my country the United States of America is talking about billions of $ In aide for Ukraine. I would rather pay $1,000,000 us to each Palestinian family to relocate their families in Arib countries and Seattle this issue once and for all! I am sure we the people of the United States of America would pay less then on this war in Ukraine. To make sure it is feasible to the American tax payers, I am sure we can work out some financial agreements with the Israelis. After calculating the costs of security declining, due to the end of hostilities, it would become obvious that everyone would win in the long run. Jewish businesses could work with Muslim businesses and have amazing outcomes. Muslims, Jews and Christian’s have lived in peace in that region for thousands of years. We need to start the healing at some point.
And how will you explain to the palestinian population that they have to relocate? Even with the money. Not everybody wants to leave. It is unlikely that the neighbouring countries have the resources to welcome houndresthousands of new citizens if not millions.
@@maxizzda8011 we are actually talking about a small piece of land in comparison to the surrounding region. In all honesty countries already are taking in Palestinian refugees and have been ever since the beginning of this conflict. I personally know Palestinian families that have relocated here in the US. The stories they shared were heartbreaking. So any peaceful solution to an end of this issue is greatly needed. From what I have heard, this year is going to be very violent in that region.
Don’t worry - we have a whole video about Deir Yassin: ua-cam.com/video/ezAsaKzQQtE/v-deo.html Anything else you’d like to learn about? We have 100s more videos unpacking all aspects of this story and terrible conflict
Deir Yassin was a hostile village used to attack Jewish convoys to a besieged Jewish population in Jerusalem. It was justifiably attacked and what happened was a battle
Here you go @tiago5339 Hebron: ua-cam.com/video/c3MO7dJpsdI/v-deo.htmlsi=uGpngMe6ApX4LBWg Farhud: ua-cam.com/video/DnXSOQqzaKA/v-deo.htmlsi=poJE6nmXcogKe2gh
I ask directly Palestinians and pro-palestinians a simple question and wait for a simple answer. Now, and I mean now, what are you demanding from the Israelis? What is your goal? If the Israelis accept your demand will you stop fighting the Israel state?
@@ziadghannam7704 And that is exactly why peace is impossible, I wish one day both our peoples will leave in the land in peace and together, but we israelis are not going anywhere. Instead of holding onto this toxic mindset of all or nothing that leaves no place for peace, as two states or as a united state for israelis and Palestinians, you should realise that neither of us are going anywhere and we need to find a solution for both, hence @Georg Hotos's question to try and see what each side needs for peace so the people, not the governments, can come together and find a peaceful and equal solution. We are all cousins and should act like it, hope we both live to see this conflict come to a good ending.
@@jerusalemite6522 Arabs and Canaanites, Phoenicians, Acadians have been in the levant and Iraq for 10000 years, thousands of years before any Jew walked on earth. Go back to Lithuania
Israel and israelis will always be a pariah in the Middle East. No one will accept you until the palestinians get their state. You need the peace more than the arabs.
You invaded because your ambitions were beyond just palestine. You know you wanted Jordan parts of syria, iraq, Egypt, and more... keep lying the world is watching.
Funny because when they won the territories in Jordan and Egypt in the 67 war, they ended up giving it back later. So there goes your ahistorical expansionist narrative.
This is like a Palestinian high school project. So, answer some questions for me. What is the Palestinian 'cause'? What is the endgame? Do you think the Gazan wall and fly over surveillance was necessary security protection for Israel? Where is Israel occupying Palestine? Did Hamas act in the best interest of Palestinians by attacking Israel on Oct 7th and taking hostages? Who is bankrolling Hamas and what is their agenda? Is it protect Palestinians is it to build a country? How did Gaza/Palestine spend 13 billion aid money to Gaza? Seventy five years is a human lifetime. Do you think it's wise to spend that time making suicide bombs like Ted Kasinksky? Do you see better alternatives? What does Palestine need to do to become a full UN member country?
Palestine is an Arabic word for football. The Arab world kept telling them to reject peace plans over & over for a promise that they would help eradicate Israel in the future. Four, humiliating Arab-Israeli wars later & now October 7th, but this time the Arab world didn’t join the cause they been promising for decades. These poor Palestinians civilians needed to be resettled decades ago. The Arab world has the money & space, but they wouldn’t have a football to kick at Israel.
We made a PARADISE out of the empty desert that were here back when the ottomans and the British ruled here. 73 years and counting! The world could never be the same without Israel 🇮🇱
I have Mizrahi Jewish DNA, I come from both Turkish and Palestinian Ancestry however my family converted to Islam generations back. I fully support the right for Israel to exist, and even more the right for Jewish people to be able to return to their homeland! I have many Israeli and Jewish friends and we get along as much as I would with per-say a Palestinian Muslim or Christian. Regardless, the way that Israel was established was through violation of International law and warcrimes, and until Palestinians are granted equal rights and justice, regardless of the corruption of the PA, I will not support the Israeli government. Palestinians live in horror and fear, weather it's Gaza or the West Bank. Hundreds and Thousands of innocent Palestinians have fallen, and saying this does not disregard the innocent Jewish and Israeli souls killed by cruel terrorist organisations on the other side. But in this situation, it is clear, there is an oppressor and an oppressed. Regardless of Religion, Culture, History, we are all equal and we all deserve to live in the Nation of Palestine/Israel in peace. But do remember that the desert you are speaking of was never empty, you can go as far back in time as you like, but that was never the case. All my love and respect
The Arabs conquered Palestine in the 7th century, and for 1400 years, the land was under Islamic rule. Why shouldn’t another group be able to take it from you, just as you took it from the Byzantines? During the Islamic expansion, would you consider that colonialism, occupation, or even genocide? That land belonged to someone else before. Today, there are 22 Arab states. Are all these people truly Arabs? Why do all these Muslim converts speak Arabic? Was Arabic and Islam forced upon them?
Scholars do describe that a major factor leading to Arab 1948 displacement of the Arab Palestinians was violence directed to Arab Palestinians or the threat of violence to Arab Palestinians from Jewish Palestinians. It is also true that prior to 1948, there were episodes of violence initiated by both sides against the other side. Also, not mentioned is that many Arab Palestinians in 1948 or their recent ancestors were migrants to the Palestinian region from other Arab regions that today correspond to other neighboring Arab nations. Essentially many 20th century Palestinian residents, were migrants to this region, more Arab immigrants in the early 20th century and more Jewish immigrants in the later 20th century. The misinformed who ignore the complex history of the region and view their side as merely victims leads to the belief that any compromise should never occur, a view that leads to unending conflict and misery for many.
So far we can see two numbers/estimates: 1) 700,000 Arabs left Palestine in 1948. 2) "Tens of thousands" were forced to leave by Israelis (during a war of 7 armies vs one army). So we could safely assume that 70-80% of Arabs left due to Arab leaders of neighboring countries told them so. FYI search UA-cam video titled "Stolen Palestinian Land? An Arab Israeli Responds" where he tells the story of his grand-dad who refused the request by Arab leaders to leave and they are still living in their own old house, Israelis didn't force him to leave. Kinda proves the point that the displacement was based on hostility of the population, not their ethnicity.
The Muslim countries invaded in May 1948… Israel was raiding & ethnically cleansing months before back to 1947 & 1945. The Deir Yassin Village massacre where Palestinian children & families were burnt alive by the Irgun & Lehi happened in April 1948 before the Muslim countries invaded. Please stop just lying. Just tell the truth.
If you're curious, we have videos about all of those topics, going back to before 1948: What is Deir Yassin and the Nakba? ua-cam.com/video/ezAsaKzQQtE/v-deo.html Was Zionism a Form of Colonialism? ua-cam.com/video/HkpAFhdPcVM/v-deo.html 1948: 2 State Solution? ua-cam.com/video/nq-emTGIgaI/v-deo.html Did Israel Expel Palestinians? ua-cam.com/video/jB6IhmHYzWs/v-deo.html Let us know if you want more recommendations. We've made dozens of videos talking about the history of this conflict - unpacking everything you mentioned, and a lot more. I encourage you to check them out and understand more of the context and realities of this terrible conflict.
@@UNPACKED why leave out all the Lehi, Irgun & Stern Gang terrorist attacks before in your videos in Nov 29? You literally frame all violence as Arabs attacking after they rejected the Nov 29 1947 plan (which people are allowed to disagree without being genocided). You forget the King David Bombing a year before? Or in 1947 the Israeli terrorists mailing bombs to Truman? Or maybe 10 days before during the Shubaki family assassination? Or maybe the 100+ terrorist attacks by the Israel groups (whose leader was elected prime minister in the 80’s) prior? I believe in Israel’s right to exist & I believe…. You “shouldn’t negotiate with terrorists”… so let’s not play revisionism & lie like Israel wasn’t the original terrorists. We aren’t stupid guys. And like I said… I believe in Israel’s right to exist… me being critical of the US’s horrible past with slavery doesn’t mean I hate the US. But we don’t lie about our horrible past in the US. Own up to the horror Israel committed & still is. That’s justice…
Thanks for your honest response @tyal12416 We do have a video about Haganah, Irgun and Lechi: ua-cam.com/video/adsPqcpEg0o/v-deo.html The truth is it was a messy period, especially once it become a war, and if you watched our video above about Deir Yasin, you'll see that we don't deny or shy away from it, and neither does Israel. You also need to learn about the stories beforehand - including the Hebron Massacre of 1929 ua-cam.com/video/c3MO7dJpsdI/v-deo.html It's hard to define exactly when this conflict started - but probably some point then or during the British colonialist mandate. But the point isn't to rehash and fixate on who fired first - peace is about learning to move past that, to compromise, to forgive, and to try and build a better future. If you watch our videos about peace efforts, Israel has tried that many times - starting from its declaration of independence, to its peace treaties with its enemies Egypt and Jordan, to its dozens of peace efforts with the Palestinians, some of which partially succeeded but many of which tragically failed or were tragically rejected. Have Israelis & Palestinians Ever Made Peace?ua-cam.com/video/5SIAW4cX62I/v-deo.html Can the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict be Solved? ua-cam.com/video/1kYWII25cxM/v-deo.html Please keep pushing for justice, for truth, and for education - that's what we try to do as well!
@@UNPACKED it wasn’t a war man… nor it messy… this is just revisionism & dishonest. Maybe it was months after all of the attacks but for the months after the partition plan, it was a genocide. There was no Palestinian army in 1947 when they were erased from Israel (months before the 5 countries declared war). They didn’t have tanks, arms or even an army. The Lehi, etc went town to town raping, burning & killing Palestinians like Hamas did (which is horrific). It would be dishonest to frame American slavery as a war against the blacks. It was oppression & genocide. As I keep saying, just be honest… public opinion is swaying because people are delivered both viewpoints & not just gatekeeper media. When you weigh in both sides, the things & framings you are saying are just not true & most people see it. Saying it was “messy” isn’t going to help. Like I said, it wasn’t easy in America integrating our society & as a son of white mother who was on the oppressive side of history & a black father who was on the side of the oppressed side… progress can happen. Is it easy? No. Is it peaceful? No. But is it right? Yes. Israel deserves better leaders cause it is a great country on a great foundation.
"it wasn’t a war man… nor it messy…" - umm, you're literally describing a messy war. In 1947 there was no Palestinian army because there was no Palestinian state. There was also no Israeli army because there was no Israeli state. That's why it's called a civil war, as they were both populations under British colonial rule. And then starting in May 1948, actual Arab with actual armies invaded. And Israel still won 🤷 In terms of Israeli leaders, we think they've actually had some great ones, including ones who have compromised (or tried to compromise for peace and progress). We have plenty of videos about that on our channel, like this one: ua-cam.com/video/1kYWII25cxM/v-deo.html
@@j-manmarkus7591 Considering the vast networks of Israeli spies within Arab societies it was undoubtedly at the very least somewhat Israel's fault. Israel would even collaborate with literal Nazis against Arab countries using Egyptian, Iraqi, and Syrian Jews as spies. Of course mistrust is going to come as a result of such matters. Full expulsion was not beneficial toward the Arab countries but it was definitely for Israel, it was clear Israel completed a goal it was aiming for.
@@moonori4595 That's b.s. The blame for the nearly one million Jews expelled from the Arab world falls all on the Arabs and Islamic Jew hatred. It's also painfully true that the Arabs in the holy land before Israel were actually siding with the Nazis to murder Jews. Look up the grand mufti of jerusalem Hussein. He was a friend of Hitler's and help raised Muslim Nazi battalion for him and start a Holocaust in Israel. Sickening. Nice try buy no cigar.
Also where was the Democracy? Why were no Arab citizens asked about a partition? Israelis used Fascism to create fake international "agreements" that no Arab got to vote or have a say on Democratically.
@@ruskyalmond1977 Actually, they were, but the rest of the Arab world told those Arabs to flee, and after they attacked the Jews and killed them all, they could return to their homes, which of course never happened.
The girl whose family walked on foot to Isreal seems well intentioned but the idea that "Jews would have had no place to go" is absolutely ridiculous when they were fleeing retaliation for what Jews were doing to the Palestinians. If the Palestinians had not been forced out of their homes, there would have no retaliation and her family would not have had to flee. I'm not denying that the family could have faced anti semitism for other reasons, but her comment is totally absurd given the context.
This video contradicts itself. You said that Jewish people were relocated to Palestine and this was only after the emergence of the new Jewish country. So you admit that there was a plan to expel Palestinians out of their land and relocate Jews in place of those immigrants. And this by itself means that the first invasion was by the Israelis' not the by Arabs who tried to defend the stolen land.
@HASHIM MOHAMMAD ,MD I suggest you to listen to the video again . The Jewish people were already in the area before the creation of Israel . They were there even before the WW1 . There was no plan to expel Palestinians because there were no Palestinians . Palestinians is an invent of the PLO in 1964 , before that they were arabs like any other arab. The arab countries declared the war in 1948 and not before , so I don't know what are you talking about the first invasion of the Israelis and the arabs trying to defend the stolen land ? You are confused .
Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian jews were living in the Mandate of Palestine, all were carrying a Palestinian passport. This was the case until the land was occupied by the extreme zionists.
Why not tell how the Grand Mufti of Egypt told all Palestinians to leave. Because 5 arab armies were about to attack Israel. The arabs left of their own free will.
This is a lie, first of all. Secondly, it don't matter how they left. The problem is Isnotreal did not allow them to come back ignoring the UN law (Palestinian have the right to return), while any American or Eropean Jew has the right to get Isnotrealy citizenship on the spot due to their religion. That is the definition of Ethnic cleansing and settler colonial project and apartheid. People of the world has woken up and we don't accept lies anymore!
"We tried to kill you. We failed. We are the victims." 🙄
We would still have colonialism by that logic
@@leanderbarreto6523 The Islamist Arabs are the colonialists.
@@ad72644 That went both ways. Here's some Jewish communities that had to be evacuated because of Arbz V (b4 ’48): Beer Tuvia, Beerot Itzhak, Beit Eshel, Beit HaArava, Beit Shean, Bni Yehuda, Har Tuv, Zichron Avraham, Hebron, Hulda, Chmara, Kfar Uria, Kfar Giladi, Germak, Kfar Saba, Moza, Metula, Masade, Gaza, Tel Hai, Tiferet Binyamin, etc, etc.
@@ad72644 The Arbz started the v during the mandate era (tried to include some examples, but yt deleted it, too graphic I suppose).... Anyway J fought back just like they should have. They were fighting for their survival and the potential survival of milz more was dependent on their success establishing a Jewish homeland (whereas the Arbz were fighting because they didn't want to share with self determined J). The Arbz created their own reality back then, just like they do now.
@@ad72644 yeah that tends to happen when you attack someone with the expressed intention of exterminating every person in it. What really pisses you off is the fact that you lost to Jews. Remember how the mullahs said you couldn't lose because Allah was on your side? How'd that work out for you again, scrub?
Y’all skipped over the part before the British stole the land from the Palestinians to give to the Jews. You just jumped to “Israel existed, and then the Nakba happened.”
They are spreading propaganda and disinformation
The British didn’t steal anything. They won the land after World War I.
Jewish channel using propaganda to promote fake news and control the narrative lmao.. they are ignoring literally what happened in 2022 in sheik jarrah.. u won’t see a video about that tho
You mean the Ottomans?
You know there was Jews still living in Palestine before Islam right?
you don't get to declear war and then play victim when you lose
@son of cush ityoppi's When the Arab world confiscated everything they owned then expelled all Jews from their countries there were innocent Men children and woman that had nothing to do with Israel declaration of a state.
@son of cush ityoppi's Where're talking about the past here, not Arab countries today, getting U.S. technology and money in exchange for peace with Israel.
So why do the Jews play the victims after losing the war with the Romans
@son of cush ityoppi's did u heard about fogal family? It's a family that's lived at Israel near tell Aviv and a Palestinian broke into they're house and kill the parents and all they're children
Mediterranean Mapping jewish people moved on from that although they mourn for the loss of the temple.
Glad to see the comments are calling out the propaganda
This was made 2 years ago it’s not propaganda 😭 you won’t call you pro Arab propaganda IK that
@@embrosehuq3646Israel propaganda has been around a lot longer than the moment your kid brain heard of this conflict.
@@embrosehuq3646You are a fool if you think propaganda on Palestine is a new thing.
@@embrosehuq3646 it’s sponsored
@@embrosehuq3646 then why are you defending a propaganda? I’m more than happy to see you calling out Hamas propaganda, but don’t deny Israel propaganda when you see it
Interesting how there's absolutely no mention of the Balfour Declaration and virtually no historical context of Zionism.
If there's no mention or context of Zionism when discussing the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, then the debate shouldnt be taken seriously.
The writers of the Balfour Declaration just based it on the Bible
Old Testament ___Genisis 15:18 - 21
"On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, 'To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates- the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites."
So, in essence, this land would span from the northeastern part of Egypt (Gaza) all the way to the Euphrates River (modern day Palestine/Israel/Lebanon/Syria.
@@grichard1585 : The writers of the Balfour Declaration were the British, who promised the land to the Arab League if they helped the British defeat the Ottomans
The British also promised the land to the French if they helped them defeat the Ottomans
The Britsh also promised the land to the Zionists if they helped them defeat the Ottomans.
Somebody was gonna screwed.
Because the Balfour Declaration didn't create a Jewish state. Israel would exist whether the Balfour Declaration existed or not.
@@mactek6033without British force there wouldn’t be an Israel. It’s was forcefully created.
@@charleshess3764 If the Ottoman Empire hadn't backed the wrong side in WWI... How far back do you want to play this game?
As someone who has nothing to do with either side, nor do I care that much, this is clearly propaganda for Israel. It’s ver hard for someone on the outside to get an unbiased understanding of the current situation
Humans just doing human things, thinking their group is in the right.
At least they’re not defending Hamas… I mean, to be so influenced by the propaganda that you’re rooting for those who’re the embodiment of evil and hate your soil.
I agree with you however Israel has been attacked by Palestine again and again and again. Really this is Israel defending their land and saying enough is enough. Really they are in the right
@@courtneyvarney903 wow what an incredibly unbiased point of view
@@courtneyvarney903 Thing is its not their land, the majority of the jews living in palestine now originate from eastern europe , why is it that a jew who has no connectiion to the land have more rights than the palestinian who was actually born there.
Populations change territories after wars. It happened in Europe, India-Pakistan & many other places. It's the responsibility of the Arab countries to give citizenship to the the people that were born there instead of using them as pawns.
@Waleed you do realize there will be mutual compensation as there were also 800,000 Mizrachi Jews cleansed out of Arab Countres as they left their property and businesses behind which Israel has absorbed with out funds from UNRWA.
exactly
EXACTLY!
@Waleed that would be the case if the Palestinians were forcefully expelled which they weren't, being expelled means that they told you to leave or else, which simply didn't happen.
@Waleed They can get a citizenship you dumbass, they just choose not to, they litteraly want everything, they just won't accept any land deals, they want EVERYTHING.
The amount of mental gymnastics you have to do to excuse the invasion of Palestine for the creation of an ethnostate IS CRAZY
20% of Israels population is arabic. Nice ethnostate. your comment is wrong on so many levels.
@@blackwater4100many arabs are facing racism,btw that doesn't mean anything
@@blackwater410020% of Israel’s population is Arabic NOW, 600k Arabs were evicted in the Nakba. Jewish people made up only 10% of the population of that area at the time of Israel being declared a state
Invasion of Palestine? What in the hell are you talking about. This idea that in 1948 Palestine was an Arab state is pure fantasy. How hard is it to understand that the Arabs were offered a state, they said no and everything that has happened thereafter is 100% their fault
It is Jewish land. How about you speak on the Arab conquering of Africa and the Middle East where Islam was forced on the people of the land. Jews were expelled from Israel and were told to leave and faced death. If you were expelled from your home, you would hope to get it back as well. Israel is decolonization. Arabs came in 700 AD Jews have been in Israel for 4,000 years.
So the video really didn't go in depth if they are expelled or not. Really worthless video.
I want to believe there's no bad intentions behind this video. However, I can't help but notice there is a great deal of bias and invisibilization of palestinian suffering. Since the video is titled "Did Israel expel Palestinian Arabs?" wouldn't the testimony of a palestinian who actually lived through Nakba be much more iluminating than the testimony of a 20-something-year-old israeli who grew up inside a country with a terrible record of unbiased education and press?? (If you're curious to what I mean just look at the recent Netanyahu corruption charges and his meddling with press and how state sponsored education inside the country and occupied territories follows very clear ideological narratives) You could have contrasted a palestinian testimony with a jewish testimony and it would have being much more productive. You are not gonna resolve the debate in one 7 minute video. However, it would go a long way if you broke out of the regular western narrative that excludes arab experiences. Controversy isn't necesseraly bad, specially when it's done in good faith. This are dificult and sensitive issues for both sides, so it's good that the dialogue is complex, otherwise you are left with the mainstream (in western media) assumption that arabs and palestinias are just inherently violent and crazy. If you put such a title in this video, don't make the mistake of reinforcing israeli bias.
Marriage??
I see that too
This is a pro Israel channel tho so it kinda makes sense
okay 1. this is a pro-israel channel, dont expect fair views from bith sides
2. most of those who lived thru the nakkba unfourtently passed away since it happend 75+ years ago
(side note, most israeli schools dont even talk about this event, i know this cause im an israeli)
Arabs could get half the land at 1948, chose war, lost, cry since than. They were not the owner of the land, end of the story. Egypt, Jordan, British mandate, Ottoman, not arabs, as they hadn't any country borders leaders establishment date etc etc
The problem with this video is that it completely ignores the British Mandate period that began after World War I. The British declared a homeland for the Jews and facilitated immigration for Eastern European Jews into Palestine while simultaneously suppressing the rights of the existing population. This was basically an act of war unto itself and lasted for about 30 years. The Zionists considered themselves settlers and colonists, that's how they spoke of themselves in their own writings. So this conflict was going on long before 1948. Nation-building over the top of an existing population with the aid of the preeminent superpower of the era unsurprisingly created a huge amount of resentment in the region. The retribution against Jewish communities outside of Palestine in the years after 1948 was a direct result of the nation-building and ethnic cleansing within Palestine that started in 1917. The push-pull factors are complicated. Israel did not allow the refugees from the Nabka to return home after the war. This was deliberate by Israel and they did so knowing that this would likely precipitate Jewish refugees into Israel from Arab countries. What's more important today is not 1948 but 1967. Israel exists and is recognized by most countries but it has evolved into an apartheid state because of its brutal occupation of the West Bank.
That's not true, They actually stifled Jewish immigration to appease the local bigots! The reason the Zionists said "settlers" was because it has a different meaning in Hebrew than it does in English: it meant they were the owners of the land. Yes, the conflict was going on before 1948 - there were massacres of Jews *several times* BEFORE Israel was established, so saying "the establishment of Israel is to blame" is pretty much an *insanely stupid* lie. For you to pretend that European pogroms & the Holocaust were somehow related to "Palestinian colonialism" is even more insane. Oh, & you used the word 'apartheid". Yeah, strike three, FOAD.
Thanks for that info bit Im American and trying to learn as much about this conflict as I can while sifting through tons and tons of opinionated stuff
"Never trust someone whose explanation of history starts in the middle."
@@Houndskullcrownemoji says someone who has to reach back 2000 years to justify genocide
@@hamzakamran2485 whose side do you think i am on?
"Palestinians started it!"
If foreigners attempted to steal your land so they can create an ethnostate there, wouldn't you be up and arms to defend your land? Because that's what Palestinians were doing: Defending their land
The Palestinians rejected a two-state solution, then attacked the Jews for wanting to live in their only safe-haven after being persecuted everywhere else. Israel is also built on Jewish history, all of it. How are the Jews in the wrong here?
@@ariehelad6857 If someone came and stole some of your land, wouldn't you reject it?
Yeah this whole channel is mental gymnastics
Most of the Jewish immigrants bought land from the Ottoman’s. Most of the displacement was a result of fear of war due to the rising tension between both sides.
A lot of Jews were simply refugees that came to their own brothers and sisters in Israel, NGO's were buying land and housing to help facilitate and save their own people. And Arabs, instead of helping, only thought about themselves. No, worse: they started attacking and killing bare foot refugees lol, violance against Jews in Palestine was already a thing around 1920! And after that it just got insane when Jews were trying to run from the horrors in Europe.
Practically no countries were taking in Jewish refugees... or way too little numbers to allow them to run from the nazi's.
So Mr. Smarty pants, what do you think we were supposed to do then when we arrived to Palestine (the only country that had public Jewish institutes that accepted us) just to receive another bullet flying towards us? Just accept certain death? What would you have done with fire in your back and fire in your front?
I mean, seriously, how hard can it be to zoom out and take in the full context of the situation we were in?
Actually the palestinian expulsion began before the arabs invaded. You missed that fact
And you missed the fact that about 50% of the PA in 1920 were new comers from another Muslim countries of the region. Even from Bosnia in Europe.
@@simko8665 so?
@@Khaled4life So? All PA's are claiming that they live in Israel for Centuries. As I said half of them are new comers. Jews lived in Israel for Centuries and many arrived from 1878. So the PA's have no advantage over the Jews.
Most of the Arabs arrived because the new comer Jews needed skilled workers.
While more and more Jews keep arriving in Israel, they need more and more workers and Arabs kept arriving with their families in Israel. Now they say that they lived there for many ages and the Jews have no rights in Israel at all.
Kaled, I advise you to read the history of this region in the last 200 years, beginning with the Egyptian invasion in 1830.
@@simko8665 ok
@@Khaled4life Fine. 👌
Lmao they literally got uprooted from there homes they weren’t attacking Jews they were protecting themselves
Yeah but what they are doing rn is unacceptable. Just how we can’t be blames because our forefathers wiped out many native Americans.
FREE PALESTINE, PALESTINE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE FREE FROM INJUSTICE 75 YEAR COLONIALISM THAT MASSACRES PALESTINIANS DAILY. ISRAELIS ARE EUROPEAN AND ARAB JEWS WHO IMMIGRATED TO PALESTINE AND STOLE PALESTINIAN LAND WHILE DISPLACING MILLIONS OF PALESTINIANS. THEY HAVE BEEN RAIDING VILLAGES, DEMOLISHING HOMES, BURNING CARS, CUTTING TREES, KILLING PETS, APARTHEID OCCUPATION OF THE NATIVE INDIGENOUS PALESTINIANS, PEEING IN CHURCHES, BREAKING MOSQUES, GENOCIDING PALESTINIANS, ETHNICALLY CLEANSING PALESTINIANS, DAMAGING GRAVEYARDS, ISRAEL IS A WEIRD MENTAL ILLNESS THAT THINKS KILLING BABIES IS SELF DEFENSE, WHILE CHANTING WIPE OUT PALESTINIANS.
@@putnaik9144 I agree, it hasn’t been acceptable forever though and both sides continue to fight and kill each other, they just retaliated by bombing a hospital and killing potentially 500 people is that acceptable?
@@putnaik9144over 1000 Palestinian children dead right now in just the past week through indiscriminate bombing. They tell them to go south for safety then bomb the road south killing 70 people. Then today they bombed southern Gaza. Amnesty international concluded that over 500 Palestinian children and over 4,000 Palestinian adults have been killed outside the context of an armed conflict since 2005. Israel controls the water, Electricity in Gaza and control where Palestinians can traverse in the West Bank. They weld the doors to their homes shut to insure they can’t walk on certain streets. They bulldoze down and expel them from their generational homes. Settlers in the West Bank form gangs to harass and expel Palestinian populations with violence. All backed by the Israeli government. Now they’re blocking essential humanitarian aid from getting through at the Egyptian border. Israel is a sick state that no decent person should support. This was the case before Hamas did what they did Oct. 7th, and is still the case until there’s some serious changes and compromises made. We are witnessing the finishing of ethnic cleansing Israel has always wanted to finish. Now they seemingly have carte blanche to go ahead with that ugly business. With little to no criticism by first world nations because of money interests and the eternal victim narrative of the holocaust. If it were happening anywhere else we’d call it like it is. A genocide. And I don’t use that word lightly.
@@jpram901 it’s still not clear if that was an Israeli strike or a failed Islamic Jihad rocket launched from within Gaza that hit it
*In his memoirs, Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948-49, also admitted the Arab role in persuading the refugees to leave:*
*“Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return.”*
(The Memoirs of Haled al Azm, Beirut, 1973, Part 1, pp. 386-387.)
As the video said, populations were moved by both sides because of the war. Once the war was over, everyone thought the reasonable, just thing to do was to let civilians back to their homes. Everyone except Israel
@@ChannelMath Yeah. For example, Iraqi Jews had their citizenship and property taken away, and were forced out of the country, as a result of their past government’s support for Hitler and killing Iraqi Jews in pogroms such as the Farhud. How do those refugees go back from Israel to Iraq? How about Ethiopian Jews who were threatened with death/violence in Ethiopia, called outsiders by fellow Ethiopians, and now allowed to own land because they were Jews? How do they go back to Ethiopia? How about the Yemenite Jews forced to flee Yemen? How do those refugees go back in a middle of a crisis? How about Syrian Jews? How about the Jews asked to leave their homes to newly established Israel by Egypt and Jordan when Egypt occupied Gaza, and Jordan occupied West Bank? No one seems to want to talk about that, nor acknowledge that. They just want to ignorantly say “Go back to Europe” 🙄 And if all the Jews are expelled from Israel, are the 2M Arab Israeli’s allowed to stay, or will they also be asked to “go back to where they come from”? Will government be one state under Hamas? Or 2 state solution before 1967 like PA Fatah Abbas has recommended? People think they have the simple black and white answer but it just shows their ignorance😂😂😂
@@Shani03314 you seem to be responding to things I did not say or believe
@@ChannelMath everyone Except israel?? How about Palestinian president Mahmoud abbas saying that he will allow no israeli to live in Palestine no matter what the cause?? And why should everyone return? They weren't forcefully expelled which means that they have no right of return as is coded in international law, if you want to change international law to include anyone who fled the war then advocate for that next to the UN headquarters not on israel's doorstep, expecting israel of being better then international law itself is an extreme example of "expecting the jews to be the true Christians" the funny thing is that even if they were forcefully expelled then they still wouldn't be allowed to come back cause hostile populations are an exception to this rule according to international law, again if you don't like it then advocate for the UN to reform it.
@@yashiro3594 sorry for the confusion. "everyone Except israel" was the beginning of a sentence I did not finish and I don't remember what is was supposed to be. I don't like Abbas, but also I don't care what Abbas says about Palestine because it is not a state and he has no power.
There is no single answer here, because, to an extent, they are all true:
There were Arabs and Muslims who fled British Mandatory Palestine ahead of the modern State of Israel's foundation either because they feared or simply did not want to die in the coming inevitable war, or because Arab leadership advised them to get out of the way. Arab leaders also promised they could return to their homes once the Jews were forced out. Historically, we know that they failed at this last bit.
There were Arabs and Muslims who were forced out of BMP by the newly-formed Israeli army because Israel did not want potential enemies inside their gates helping the Arab armies. This is strategically sound, even as it creates refugees. If it's small consolation, at least the Israeli army weren't trying to cleanse the land of Arabs and Muslims by r*ping and killing them. Yes, small consolation indeed.
But there's a third category that is very seldom spoken of: The Arabs and Muslims who stayed, becoming Israeli citizens with full rights. Some Arab and Muslim Israelis even serve in its government, and talk openly about how they are going to destroy the Jewish state, without fear of being arrested. This, to me, is weird, but I guess the Jewish Israelis figure they prefer the enemy they know and can watch over those they don't.
There is also a demographic issue that Israel faces, and has faced since it was still BMP, and that issue is defined by its twin character as both a Jewish and a democratic state:
Jews are an incredibly small minority in both the Middle East and in the world at large. If Israel allowed unrestricted immigration into Israel by other cultural and religious groups, they would become a minority within their own country, and Israel would therefore cease to be the Jewish state. This is exactly what the British attempted to do in the 1920s and 1930s with the White Papers, limiting Jewish migration to BMP, while encouraging Arabs and Muslims to flood the land, in order to snuff out the Jewish state before it could even be formed. It almost worked, too, especially when Jewish migration was extremely tightly restricted during the Second World War, but then the world went on a giant guilt trip over their passive role in the Holocaust, and the international community decided to assuage that guilt by letting Jews have Israel.
For the same reason, allowing the Palestinian refugees to live in Israel would also make Jews there into a minority, even if they were allowed to stay. Because Israel is a democracy, then, the Palestinians would have more political power in Parliament than the Jews, and be able to force through whatever changes they wanted, up to and including establishing the Islamic Republic of Lesser Iran that HAMAS states they want to establish there in their charter. This is something that Israel absolutely cannot allow, so they have to bar Palestinians' demand for the right of return since they see this is an existential threat toward Israel as a Jewish and democratic state. Especially since the UNRWA definition for refugee status is conferred in perpetuity to every descendent of the original Palestinian refugees. So instead of about 700,000 refugees, Israel has to deal with over two million in Gaza alone.
It should be noted that the UNRWA is the only refugee advocacy agency in the world that operates in such a way as to perpetuate the refugee status of the peoples for whom it is responsible, and it is only responsible for Palestinians in the Middle East. Whenever Palestinians have migrated to other parts of the world, other agencies have taken over, and these agents help these Palestinians shed their refugee status by becoming full citizens in their new countries. The UNRWA does not do that, because it is designed to keep the Palestinians as refugees, not to help them become citizens. Other such agencies that were formed in the wake of the Second World War in order to handle the process of land and population exchanges that was popular back then have long since closed up shop because their jobs are all done. The UNRWA, though, is still around because making citizens is not their job.
This is incredibly unfair to the Palestinians of the Middle East, who lack the sense of security that they should have, but none of the Arab nations want to absorb them. Part of the reason borders like Egypt's remain closed to them is because previously when countries like Lebanon and Jordan did accept them, terrorists also went with the civilians, and conducted uprisings from within their new countries. One organization tried to assassinate the King of Jordan. Hezbollah took over Southern Lebanon. And of course, HAMAS took over Gaza. The other Arab nations do not want to risk a militarist uprising within their borders, so they turn all Palestinians away.
So yes, a multifaceted, very complicated situation. But I place significant blame for it on the British for their mishandling of their mandatory responsibilities, and also because they wanted to prevent the Jewish state from becoming a thing, and in doing so, they really, really messed up the region.
This is well written!
@@UNPACKED Thanks. I'm always doing research on the side, looking for books on the situation that treats both Israelis and Palestinians fairly. It's very difficult, but I found one or two that do. A lot of these books, even when they don't approach it fairly, have tidbits of information I never knew. Like the thing about the White Papers.
Fascinating! That is a noble task. Would love to hear which books you've found that do so.
We talk about the White Papers in this video: ua-cam.com/video/S3U4cV2vFOU/v-deo.htmlsi=xoSJZ4nlPTCy85wW
Wow! This was the best explanation I’ve read thus far. Thank you.
so if arabs fled from palestine you take their homes hhhh, did you have the keys, why you don't say they were expelled by you terrorist groups killing arabs?
Okay, just to make sure. Was Nakba an act of ethnic cleansing? Because the information presented kinda contradicts it and says that Israel expelled Palestinian Arabs for security reasons, not ethnic hatred as many Palestinians say it was.
think about it logically- if israel really strived for ethnic cleansing, there wouldnt be any arabs living inside their borders, let alone serve in their parliament and all public positions, etc...
its just doesnt make any sense
@@DB-uf6md That's a good point you made!
“We expelled for security reasons”sounds like the type of argument Armenian genocide deniers make
Well, considering that the Israeli military forces blatantly ignored the borders set by the partition act and decided to invade and conquer much more territory than they had been gifted, I sincerely doubt it was about security.
Yes, yes it was. This video is a paid ad, I.E. propaganda.
Look at the first hand witnesses of the nakba, many of who’s children I know.
you forgot the first Partition plan of 1922 where the Arab Palestine is Jorden
While it is true that the British promised through the Balfour Declaration of 1917 a state for the Jews that included Transjordan, the truth is that they first promised the Muslims a state composed of all the territories inhabited by them, including Transjordan and also Cisjordan (the West Bank), which were inhabited by a vast majority of Muslims. So, basically, the Balfour Declaration is mostly legally void, since it came after the promise made to the Muslims. I say mostly because the Balfour Declaration did establish a right for the Jews to have a state, but only in the territories inhabited by the Jews, which obviously excludes Transjordan and Cisjordan. Of course that this state for the Muslims was never realized as one state, but as many, and the British government signed the Covenant of the League of Nations, that specified that the territories conquered from the Ottoman, German and the Austro-Hungarian Empires were granted the right to become independent. In the case of the Middle East, the states that exist today are based on the administrative divisions of the Ottoman Empire.
The Iudaea-Palaestina region (later partitioned as Israel and Palestine) is based on the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate, Lebanon on the Lebanon Mutasarrifate, Syria on the Damascus Vilayet, Iraq on the Baghdad Vilayet, Jordan on the Karak Sanjak, and Kuwait on the Autonomous Kaza of Kuwait. There were other administrative divisions, but those ceased to exist when divided and absorbed, for example, the Beirut Vilayet, which was divided between the British and the French, was separated in northern, central and southern parts, the French northern part being absorbed into the Damascus Vilayet, the central into the Lebanon Mutasarrifate, and the British southern part into the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate. The Aleppo Vilayet was also divided between the Turks and the French and its southern part was absorbed into the Damascus Vilayet. The Basra Vilayet and the Deir ez-Zor Sanjak voluntarily chose to form part of the Baghdad Vilayet and the Damascus Vilayet respectively. The only ex-Ottoman administrative division that is still controversial today is the Mosul Vilayet, that could have become a state for the Kurds, but was instead merged with the Baghdad Vilayet, modern Iraq.
As I explained, Transjordan, modern Jordan, was not only inhabited by a vast majority of Muslims, but it was also given the right to become independent, since it was the Karak Sanjak, one of the Ottoman administrative divisions conquered by the British. The Iudaea-Palaestina region, which was the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate, another Ottoman administrative division, which included the southern Beirut Vilayet, was partitioned between the Jews and Muslims, respecting the prior promises and trying to avoid the conflict between both, as they did in the British Raj (India and Pakistan).
@atollking201 I was referring to the 1921 Cairo agreement and subsequent 1922 border drawings, not the BalfurDeclaration...
Even in The Balfur Declaration's Zionist interpretation (shown in the Cairo agreement), they did not claim all of transjorden only a small part of what is now Jorden (about ~7%) I have no idea where you brought the idea of the all of transjorden thing, but the balfur declaration did not state anything about population if I remember correctly so do tell me what interpretation you are referring to (send a link pls I really want to read more about the Balfur Declaration, because I only read the Zionist, king Abdullah and the PLO's interpretations) am referring mostly to the goal of the mandate made by the league of nations to create two states (a jewish state and an Arab state) in the borders of the mandate for Palestine as it was drawn including what is now Jorden
I do have one question because the territory of what is now Israel was divided in itself to four Sanjaks during Ottoman rule, so I found the last paragraph you wrote a bit odd, can you explain a bit more so I can understand your statement better?
@@roeesadan8862 The Cairo Conference of 1921 does not change much what I am saying. The Zionists interpreted that the Balfour Declaration included Transjordan within Palestine and the Cairo Conference does the same. This inclusion is equally invalid, simply because there were previous promises that needed to be respected. I do not care either about the Zionist interpretation of the 7% of Transjordan. Transjordan was not inhabited by a Jewish majority, so why would anyone give even 1% to the Jews?
I did not say that the Balfour Declaration mentions population, that is something that you said. The point is that the Muslims were promised a state in the territories inhabited by them and the Jews were promised afterwards a state too in the Iudaea-Palaestina region, but this promise is necessarily bound to respect the previous promise, which means that we should interpret these documents as establishing a state for the Jews only where Jews live, otherwise, territories that were mostly Arab would be included in the state for the Jews obviously, breaking the promise.
You said that it was the first partition. No, both territories were separate as the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate and the Karak Sanjak during Ottoman administration. They were just put together by the British for administrative purposes, in fact, the League of Nations considered them different from the start, both had the right to become independent as two states. Even if the British or the League of Nations had actually merged both territories, then the merging is legally invalid because of the promises done before. As I said.
As for my last paragraph, I do not understand your confusion. Maybe you are trying to argue that, since the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate was composed of sanjaks, why didn't they have the right to become independent themselves as the Karak Sanjak was? I guess that that is the argument, but it is fallacious. You see, the Ottoman Empire was divided in mutasarrifates, vilayets, autonomous kaza and autonomous sanjaks. The right of independence guaranteed by the League of Nations applied only to the first level of administrative divisions, in other words, there were sanjaks that were second level, like the ones that composed the Jerusalem Mutasarrifate and the absorbed southern Beirut Vilayet, but there were first level administration sanjaks, like the Karak Sanjak, that is why it was listed as a separate mandate that had a separate right to become independent, even though administered by the British as one for administrative purposes.
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The palestinians who refused to heed the advisory in 1948 must be happy they didn't get to be refugees in lebanon or syria.
I live next to ones. Other then having to close down due to corona not much to complain. Good work, economy, living next to your family. What can a man want more?
@@AverageReplyer Long time peace = safety👮♀️, stability = economy💰 and a sustainable future = environment 🌱🌻 for your kids and grandchildren. That is what most people want in a world that sadly gets more and more unsafe every year ☹️
@@midsue Well... there never was world peace and probably never will be. I think our grandparents had it much worse, they actually went through 2 world wars, economical disaster that affected the whole world, wars in Israel and wars in other countries depending on where you are from... I honestly think we live in a better time in comparison even if it's not that great.
@@AverageReplyer be treated like an equal? Israeli born Palestinians are treated as a second class citizens, that's a fact, from my own experience.
anyone with 2 eyes can see the VAST differences between life in israel and lebanon/syria.
great education, healthcare system, free religious practicing and most of all freedom of speech.
Very intelligently reasoned video, also many excellent rebuttals below. Arguments can be made ad infinitum on both sides. However. Around the period of the two world wars, empires fell, millions of people were displaced and killed, boundaries shifted, countries were created and destroyed. Everyone has been a victim at some point. But there is today one group of people in the world who continue to wage a war they lost 75 years ago. At some point you have to accept the existing reality and figure out a way to reach a new equilibrium and live in peace. Not resort to terrorism when it's not even clear what your goals are, except to wipe out Israel. A two state solution has been proposed many times, and was rejected by the Palestinian side. The population of Gaza could easily be absorbed into other Arab nations, yet they refuse. You cannot expect that Israel will simply fold up and die. I don't agree with everything Israel has done, but on the whole what I see here is one side behaving as members of the modern world, and another side behaving as if we are still in the stone age. No way will I side with or have any sympathy for those who brutally and sadistically attacked innocents. They were offered a country of their own many times, and refused. Because what they want is to eliminate Israel. That ship has sailed. You fought the war, you lost. It might be unjust, or not perfectly just, but it's reality now. Stop trying to drag the rest of the world into the past. If those in Gaza would spend their millions in aid money on their population instead of on weapons and tunnels to slaughter innocents, they could be living so much better than Arabs in many neighboring countries. We are sick of your hatred and your fighting. Stop it.
I agree 100 percent with your very thoughtful and informative comment! I may add that the Arabs in that region were all on the side of the Nazis during World War 1 and 2 and the losing side usually suffers some consequences. These are the same Arabs that celebrated 9/11! Israel is accused of being Apartheid, yet there are over a million Muslims in Israel and not one Jew in Gaza, so who is apartheid? But you hit it on the head about the need for the Palestinians to move on because this is the only group of people allowed to be perpetual victims, and attacking Israel is not going to further the prospects of a 2 state solution! ( It's quite obvious that's not what they want) The useful idiots protesting on their behalf would be better served convincing the Palestinians to accept Israel as a nation!
It's very difficult to tell a people that lost their land and were herded into a prison to "move on". Let's think this through: you were born in the British Mandate of Palestine. Half a million Jews were shipped from lord knows where. They declared a country. War broke out, of course, because the British promised both the Zionist Jews land that was populated and the Arabs a state. You were expelled from your home and ended up somewhere in the West Bank. The war ended very quickly. You were told you were never going to go back to your home ever. You hate the Zionist Jews that won't allow you back into your home.
Do you expect these same people to give people that obviously hate them a country with a functional military? Please. The Zionist Jews don't want a 2 state solution, just like how the Palestinians don't want a 2 state solution so they can return home. The 2 state solution is a joke. Even if a country called Palestine is created it will be a fake country that will never be allowed to defend itself.
You need to wake up an realize how the world function. Might makes right. Unfortunately for Israel, it didn't wipe out the indigenous population. Thus, this is a hell they will deal with until the world order changes again. When it does, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a Jewish "Nakba".
In conclusion, there will never be a 2-state solution and it was never possible to begin with. No country will ever allow the creation of another power next door that has a massive population that was just expelled from their very own country. It's like a rapist giving a knife to his victim! Similarly, a person expelled will not simply forget they were expelled. This is just common sense.
And to counter you position that the population of Gaza can just be absorbed into other Arab countries, shows your poor understanding of nation states and nationalism in general.
No state will ever willingly accept millions of refugees. Just like how the European countries (including the US) would not accept and save the Jews even though Hitler was sending them to gas chambers. And yes he offered. There is a video on UA-cam with him gloating after they all refused to take them in.
I agree. However it is not only the palestinians that reguse to integrate in the neighbouring arab countries. A prime example is Jordan (or East Palestine as the Britist called it before Transjordan was established) where palestinians were isolated and refused citizenship, workpermits, land, education - anything needed to actually set up a new life. And thus being used as political pawns and kept in the refugee limbo by their muslim brothers. When Egypt ruled Gaza and Jordan ruled The West Bank 1948-67 neither established a Palestine for their fellow palestinian brothers.
@@davidslor7103 It seems that the Arab nations, and the Arabs that had lived in British Mandate Palestine ( they were not called Palestinians) were not so concerned about a Palestinian state till 1967 when Israel, in a defensive war took over Gaza from Egypt and the West Bank from Jordan. You hit it on the head when you said they were being used as pawns for the narrative that Israel was responsible for the plight of the Palestinians. They continue to be used as pawns because Hamas felt its citizens were expendable when they attacked on October 7th. If the civilians in Gaza had any sense they would use the Israeli military operation as an opportunity to rid themselves of Hamas. Instead, they choose to back Hamas, at their own peril!
Funfact: israel wasn't founded on empty land with no people but on territory where thousands of palestinians lived and opposed the creation of a new nation where they weren't consired by democratic vote= recepee for disaster.
And for thousands of years, many of those Palestinians were Jews. Palestine is a regional term, not a reference to an ethnic group. The history of the term is worth looking into.
Who is Palestinian back then? Jews? Christian? Oh you may mention Arab? What do you think the stone of Israel nowadays? Is this Zionism? What about the Jews refugees from other Arabs countries (that happened a cleansing ethnics targeted to Christians, Jews and numerous minorities) that made up more than half Israel's population? Yes, the land wasn't empty, there were Jews who lived there thousands of years, there were Christians live there since the beginning of Christianity, there were Arabs Muslims lived there from century 7 BC, there were Arabs from Egypt, Jordan, Syria,... migrated there in 1920s (bc at that time, British ruled all, there was no border and nation like nowadays), and there were Jews migrated there from 1800s before the Zionism,...... The land was not empty, the Jews before 1947 was not less than 10% (Al Jazeera said it's 11%), most land Jews received from UN are desert. Why there's a need of a new nation? 1, Jews in Midle East were in genocide, they need a land to settle down, and there's no more land appropriate than Judea. 2, It's my opinion, the Christianity in the Middle East was in alarming situation, it was nearly wiped out of the land it came from, the same goes with Jews, do they not deserve have a place for their religion? 3, Does Midle East have enough dictatorship government? Notes: Arabs in Israel have more human rights than Arabs in Middle East Muslim countries like Palestine
another fun fact : NAKBA does not mean the removal of Arabs from the land - which by the way the Ben Gurion and others asked the Arabs to stay and those who did live in a democracy today. Only few have actually been removed by the Israeli. Most were ordered to leave their land so that the Arab nations could rage their war. NAKBA indeed means catastrophe but it relates to the failure of the Arab nations to completely annihilate Israel. read the books of Constantine Zurayk
True. And Herodotus called it Palestine 500 BC. So did Al maqdeesi.Ibn Batuta. Al Makreezi. Old Maps.
@@jutswheezie this doesn't make any sense because palestinian were the majority before 1948. How do you create a jewish majority state in a place where they're a minority
"Actually, we genocided the locals because they were of the same ethnicity as our war opponents" is an interesting way to justify expropriating homes of hundreds of thousands of people. What makes this different from a pogrom during Russia's Western expansion, where the exact same rhetoric of "foreign agents" was used. They were civilians, end of story and even if they left their homes voluntarily during the war it doesn't justify not getting them back when it ended.
"Palestinians" have Egyptian,Syrian,Saudi,Lebanese and Jordanian surnames for a reason. Ever heard of the mass Arab migration to Israel in the 1920's? Kinda doea away with the claims of being indigenous.
Bro, they were (and still are) an hostile population that was doing gorilla warfare, terror attacks, that called in the enemy and fought in their ranks. So how is anything your saying even practical? Do you even know what was going down? 😂
It takes a Portuguese to have this kind of opinion.
Putting words in other people's mouths is a great way to confess that you have no argument whatsoever. Your concession is noted.
@@SafetySpooon sure lad, whatever makes you sleep better at night.
To the content creator - THANKS for leaving comments on and welcoming feedback and debate!
Imagine making a UA-cam channel in order to make pro israel propaganda
I agree. I was expecting it to be turned off.
arabs just lie lie
never tell true
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Right ! ? Freedom to speak and share information. Amazing definite props .
You forgot to mention 3 crucial things: 1. Most of Israelis who came before 1948 were socialists who wanted to share land and create peace, not expel anyone, and also Mizrahis who fled arab coutries due to being ethnically cleansed (you did mention the latter) 2. The socialists mostly BOUGHT land, but in a few cases the arab landlords kicked out tenant peasants before handing the land over to the socialists. 3. Some arabs fled because of Deir Yassin, which was a massacre of mostly innocent arabs by a small minority of RIGHT WING Jews. The arab media inflamed that story (it was horrible enough as it was) and put the fear of the "massacring Jews" into the hearts of many arabs, who fled.
Yes that true. Also unfortunately the new owners of the farm land had a policy to only employ Jews to work the land. Very sad for everyone.
@@ilhan5515 I think the policy was to only employ Kibbutz members, which happened to be Jewish. It was not meant to exclude anyone, it was meant to not exploit anyone for manual labor. The socialists believed that if you start employing others for manual labor, you develop a class structure, and start feeling superior.
There's new information on Deir Yassin, explaining that a bunch of artillery was brought into that village from Egypt days (I think 5 ) before. The Israelis found out, and that's a clear sign of a planned threat, they took hold of the area. I believe around half of them fled, and half took up their arms, mostly men, young and old, leaving the Irgun no choice but to fight and take them out. It seems it was a threat into battle, rather than a "massacre". Any policing group would have no choice but to respond in such a manner.
1. most israelis who came were disgusting settlers who wanted to create a jewish state without Palestinians, that's the core of Zionism. Sure, Arab jews who were kicked out of the ME was cruel and disgusting, but why do Palestinians have to pay the price for it? The fact Mizrahi jews are from the M.E. DOES NOT make them indigenous to Palestine, that's like saying that me as a French I am indigenous to Poland just cause I am European and Catholic. Why would Palestinians need to share the land with colonizers?
2. Never heard of the sursock purchase?
3. They were not a minority dear and you can see that in the IDF today, even the Haganah, the most leftist militia expelled dozens of villages
Indienous identity is not based in "My ancestors lived here 2,000 ago so i am indigenous" or "God gave us this land so its ours", using religion to claim a piece of land is ignorant and ridiculous, notice how Palestinians use their canaanite ancestry, culture and identity to claim indigenous character, while Israelis say "well it says it in the torah", i can't take that claim as valid since its said in a magic book that was written BY JEWS.
Ashkenazi Jews that arrived in Palestine were white, culturally European, dressed as europeans, spoke European languages like Yiddish and Polish, with blue eyes, do you really want me to believe they are indigenous to Palestine? Culture plays a huge role in indigenous character just as genetics.
Also, you forgot to add to your socialist utopia: Kibbutzim normally excluded Arab labor and took their lands, this is pretty well documented.
Y'all try SO HARD to be middle eastern that you started appropiating Arab food, sure Mizrahis have all the right to eat it, but let me remind you that the current wing of Zionism is EUROPEAN. Y'all love to call it "Israeli salad" yet it was appropriated from Palestinians in the Galilee.
Of course Arab countries need to welcome back their Arab Jews and fight against Anti-semitism and accept that they took part in ethnic cleansing of many of them. But a huge part of them also went to Israel thanks to Zionist propaganda, Zionism CRUSHED the middle east and its unity, sure anti semitism existed and Jews were not equal to Muslims, but they had a better life in arab countries than in Europe, Zionism played a huge role in why anti semitism increased in the M.E.
Israel is a colonial entity that needs to be erased from the map, the land should be returned to the indigenous Palestinians.
While the governments of the world (including mine) are Zionist, these months have shown that humanity is with Palestine, and the IDF has been UNSUCCESFUL to destroy Hamas, the fact that on October 7th they humiliated you shows that Israel is not indestructible.
Y'all weaponize the Holocaust so much yet y'all are doing the same, zionists wonder "uhh why are Palestinians so anti semitic" oh well, maybe because y'all have colonized, bombed, killed and expelled for the past 75 years.
No, a 2 state solution is not viable, why do Palestinians have to agree to live with the flag that has killed them for generations?
You really want me to feel bad about the people who think that Arabs are less intelligent, and that call Palestinians "human animals" and constaly show their racism.
PD: Reminder the IDF killed 3 hostages, and the hostages that have been liberated looked like they took a trip to the maldives, while Palestinian hostages showed clear signs of torture.
From France, on t'aime Palestine!
@@MattHazeMusic It is not clear how many took arms, because most of the village was supposed to be pacifists. The massacre was inexcusable (there were no human shields at the time, and the Irgunists went berserk, killing some obviously innocent people in cold blood), motivated by primal outgroup hatred. And this is mostly the domain of rightists like the Irgun and the Bibi coalition (a sociological fact, read Avi Tuschman for example). Anyway, my main point is that Deir Yassin was an exception to how arabs were treated, and it made sense that socialists would not steal land, so if any land was stolen, it was due to a very small rightist minority before 48, and after due to arabs who wanted to kill Jews and had to be expelled out of survival for the Jews. Totally different than what happened in South Africa or the US.
It boggles my mind how people would never support the idea of giving back Native Americans land because he lived here for 12,000 years, yet see no problem and giving land to people that claim they lived there 3000 years ago. What’s the difference?
Because it belonged to the Ottoman Empire, and when there's a dissolution of empires, there is a redistribution of land. In the same way that it came to be their land-- the inverse happened. You think Arabs came out of a little vagina in the ground? Land is owned by nations, not by ethnicities or a particular race.
The difference? First The natives didn’t claim the land anymore because they still live here in the US with full citizenship and all rights giving to them. The Jews didn’t just claim to be there for 3000y but they are actually stating facts. Also, it weren’t them that attacked first. So keep in mind if you are the aggressor and loose you will always lose land. Be happy Israel is on the good side and didn’t do much worse things to "Palestine"
The natives had no legal claim and the U.S. government made no attempt to give it to them. The persons with the interest in the landare expected to assert a legal claim, it is not a passive right.
English Common Law has a doctrine of averse possession. Most native tribes were nomadic and did not meet the legal doctrine of occupying the land. Some settlers could have attempted to educate tribes about legal right - I don't know if that ever happened - whether lawyers were hired. Even today, our rights as Americans are not passive - which creates a culture where lawyers thrive.
Jews have continuously lived in Israel for 3,500 years. Many Jews who ended up in Israel are ironically middle eastern Jews who were expelled from Islamic nations which were protesting the creation of the state of Israel in 1848.
After the Holocaust and destruction of Europe, Jews could not go to Europe and they were too poor to immigrate to the U.S. - which at the time had a restrictive immigration policy. Israel accepted the middle eastern Jewish immigrants with only the clothes on their backs, as Israel still does to dispossed Jews. Later many badly treated Soviet Jews emigrated to Israel from Russian and other Soviet states.
The Holocaust narrative is now almost as if its from the Hebrew Bible - Jews are willing to risk the condemnation of other nations to never be helpless like they were in the Warsaw ghetto.
Many Arabs also claim an ancient home in Israel, and other Arabs are migrants
We should support giving land back to natives lmao
Religion.
Spoiler alert. Britian gave away land to Jewish settlers without the consent of the people already living there
spoiler alert: Brits played along Arabic interests most of the time, even blocked further immigration of the Jews in 1940-ish.
Why would anyone need their consent? They were allowed in that territory but the previous colonial power. The Jews had just as much right to be there as the Arabs.
@@mihawkizanagi9105 *people already living there*
@@seanmurphy7953 If the people already living there did the same thing to the ones before the Cough cough "Arab conquest" cough cogh , it is , most Jews including those you say are colonizers , can trace thier root comfortably to The Levant.
Arabs or Palastinais have no better or worse claim to this land , sorry to disappoint.
Wrong, try looking up what the U N decided at that time, 1948.
Check out your own anti British anti Zionist antisemetic feelings while you are at it.
i am an arab israeli, and there are a lot of lies and myths towards this, many arabs weren’t expelled, many left on their own because of the war and many arab leaders told palestinians to leave because they were going to destroy Israel, war sucks and both jews and arabs suffered a lot, but this is what happens in all of the wars, many refugees from the ww2 in countries like poland were also expelled and never allowed to go back to their land and homes. i am a proud arab citizen of the state of Israel and i have no other flag than this one 🇮🇱
I really doubt that you're an israeli arab 😂
“Many Arabs weren’t expelled” how do you think the state was formed? And let’s go with your logic your Arab why do you deny your fellow Arab the right to live in their ancestral homeland? Those Arabs are possibly your family members because many families ended up split. I don’t understand why you don’t see an issue
@@Zaabi when the heck did I deny that we also have the right to live in the land? If jews wanted to expel all arabs they wouldn’t have let 150,000 palestinians to stay, you’re so ignorant
@@Zaabi these fellow Arabs also have relatives through out the Levant. Too bad their fellow Arab relatives do not grant them citizenship while maintianing them on refugee status for ages just for spite.
This video also mentions "Mizrachi Jews" 700,000 of which immigrated to Israel after being ethnicly cleansed not from Europe but nighboring Arab Countries. How convenient of you to ingnore this fact. Israel has absorbed all of them , and is now still relatively small and condensed in papulation as is.
Arab Countries have all the space they need and then some. So logiclly , it would now make much more sense for everyone to stay where they are at and concentrate on vital issues such as economic development rather than waste resources waging war while constantly purchacing weapons.
@@israteeg752 ok I’ll reply to each segment of your comment separately- Arabs give each other citizenship you need to fit into certain criteria to get citizenship. Nobody is owed citizenship also why should they? They have their own identity that’s unique to them I know you think all Arabs are the same (by seeing how you think all Arabs can just hope wherever they want) ask a Palestinian and ask them if they’ll take any other Arab citizenship and renounce any right to their ancestral homeland, go for it.
Imagine spending money on pro israel propaganda ads
oh my god
850.000 Jews were expelled by several countries while this is not considered Nakba?
So taking the houses and farms of people that had nothing to do with that real tragedy makes it right?
@@dlfincher6887 that’s not what I said but that’s what you focus on? Coincidentally that’s what the Arab agenda is. As I said: the other Nakba is never to be heard, though it’s been of even bigger dimension. Why is this? I guess because some like to be eternal victims and blame others.
it was a zionist operation, go learn history
Look up Mossad operations to attract Mizrahi Jews from Morocco, Yemen and Iraq in the 50's, before you spread Zionist propaganda!
"Operation Yachin", "Operation Flying Carpet" and "1950-51 attacks of Baghdad" should help!
as long as you accept that the Nakba was carried out by Israel and a bad thing, then yes we criticize the expulsion of Jewish people in Arab world
Insane how far from objective this framing is
arab christians and muslims were living peacefully with jews before israel happened the propaganda is just bs
Are you insane?
Get out you anti-semitic bigot.
And take your pills.
@@bryanstark1930 How is her comment anti-semitic? Yours is truly ableist.
@@bryanstark1930 Pretending zionism and being jewish are interchangeable is antisemitic. And I’m off the meds actually so watch out Bry
@@bryanstark1930 typical Zionist instead of debating with facts you throw the magic words : antisemitic / Khamas / Nasrala / Nazi 🤡😂 this is no longer working you’re exposed to the whole world your apartheid & ethnic cleansing is clear for the blind & deaf too
My mother's family was ethnicly cleansed from Yemen and Irak, and from Spain as well earlier on (you mean 500 years ago, are we seriously going that far on the victimhood?) My people was massacred by the Arab conquerors in the year 800, I am a victim too.
Iraq*, and what is your point anyways?
Whaaat??!
wow. you people really don't understand us Jews. Learn about Jewish history and don't just choose to be evil.
You are a victim of your own bigotry & nothing else.
Facts
Weird thing to not hear about The Deir Yassin massacre since we’re talking about racial cleansing and Arab expulsion!
This series is so miss leading!
I recommend anyone interested about this topic to watch Born in Deir Yassin documentary which is directed by Neta Shoshani (an Israeli director).
Dier Yassin happened because the Arabs had a 5 month blockade of Jerusalem that not 1 truck could get through, if you want to know the truth about Dier Yassin watch *"Palestinian Leader Hazem Nusseibah admits to false reports of rape"* as well as *"Dier Yassin (mirror)"*
Weird that *you* didn't mention the Battle of Tel Hai or Arab Riots.
More Arab propaganda
@@lad7436 off course there will be riots! They are being cleansed, or kicked out of their houses in the best case scenario!!
Deir Yassin was one of many massacres in the 1948 war. It was a war crime, yes, but it wasn't unparalleled or unusual in it's cruelty, brutality or illegality compared to the invading Arab armies who discriminately or purposely massacred Israeli Jewish civilians.
Also the Haganah which later became the IDF as well as prominent Jewish organizations condemned the Deir Yessin massacre.
Sorry but it all started way before you suggest. The international community took the land off Turkey (it was part of the Turkish Ottoman Empire) because the Turks had supported Germany in WW1. In 1922 the League of Nations (precursor to the UN) ordered the British, by a directive known as the British Mandate, to create a Jewish state in that area of the Ottoman Empire known as Palestine (It has never been a country). The British realised that this was going to be difficult and so used a technical loophole, in their Mandate, to use the majority of the Palestinian land to create an Arab state called Jordan. The international community realised that the British had to leave the Mandate land (the remaining small portion of the Palestine area) in 1948. The UN, which had taken over responsibility for the affairs of the League of Nations, and, in 1947, proposed a two state solution which was rejected by the Arab parties. The British left, Israel was created and the Arab League of five nations (including Jordan) decided to invade the new state of Israel. The Arab league wanted to avoid killing Arab civilians and so recommended that the Arab civilians abandon their land and head south until the end of the war. The hostilities ceased with cease fire lines around Gaza and the West Bank.
Oh, say what, they Arabs rejected the plan of a two state solution?! Guess what, nobody usked my ancestors in Germany if we were okay with the devision of our land and society. But only the hatred on jews is driving this double standard of yours.
" The Arab league wanted to avoid killing Arab civilians" - Oh yeah you are playing victim again. Why in this world would a group of people who has been persecuted and even gased by Nazis, Millions of them, be interested in doing the same to Arabs? All they wanted is peace but the very first attacks started by Arabs on Jews! Thats a matter of fact and then the violence quickly escelated. Google it ;)
Jewish settlers had also been buying land from Arab landlords for some time before then.
@@capncake8837and jewish settlers refused to sell or deal with Arabs. That made tensions worse
@@capncake8837 Exactly! They bought the land but as you might now, idiots are not interested in facts that shut down their antisemitism.
it was always palestinian land because the palestinians were living there, being colonised by the ottomans and british doesn’t make it theres to slice up and give away as they please
This is like almost genocide denial. This video is crazy.
Almost? Dude, that’s straight fascist propaganda.
Carrying out a holocaust in Gaza and Rafah while playing victims. Thanks for social media, you are exposed. You’ll are worse than Hitler your master himself.
Pro Pale inability to listen is amazing
@@mrchen.4543 I listened, the whole video is explaining away and justifying an ethnic cleansing and genocide. It's disgusting.
Get a dictionary.
Every single human in existance can have status of victim if you go far enough back in history. Lets just deal with what is happening right now and why, and how to stop it.
What a simple and quite obviously true point that no one seems to acknowledge. You're not entitled to anything because your ancestors suffered.
Most current Palestinians were born in a concentration camp. All were born in a territory controlled by a colonial apartheid power, given no rights to speak of and often harassed, jailed or put into other inhumane states of being. Not to mention intentionally kept at a level just above starving by israel. There is no economy there, israel does not allow it. I could go on and on about how they are not just mad about what israel has done to their ancestors, and how they might be able to see where their family lived in generations past if they look overtop of the prison fence keeping them in gaza, but they're also mad about BEING IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP.
@@foookeseso most of the 2.2 million Palestinians where born in labor camps?
If only the ppl who created Israel would've accepted ur argument of "everyone's ancestors suffered" instead of " well they stole the land from the Jews first"
What is happening now is apartheid.
"You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt" - Leviticus 19:33-34
I thought the Palestinians welcomed the Jews originally. Is Israel the only country in the world where you have to prove you are (are a certain race) Jewish or can prove you are connected to Jewish people (married to a Jewish person) to immigrate to Israel? If any other country did that it would be called racism. When Christian were fleeing persecution Netanyahu said Israel did not have room for them. I am for all people being treated with respect but we all have to own our part of what our history is. Next video cover who owned many of the slave trading boats.
Don't believe this video! The bunch of bullshit they are spewing!! Bruh I'm from Yemen and until today we have Yemeni Jews! They've lived there forever. This propaganda video literally skips the Balfour declaration and how those 700k Palestinians were forcibly kicked out cause those 700k lived in the Palestinian cities that the IDF turned into "Israel" Cities.
They never welcomed the Jews
The Turkish and Egyptian landlords did, in exchange for “Hebrew gold” but as soon as the Jews were no longer dhimis once the British took over from the Turks the Arabs began a campaign of multiple pogroms
Your last sentence alone indicates you're an antisemite who's bought hook, line, and sinker the myths promoted by the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan.
In the Western World, YES! Israel is not a Democracy. It is a Theocracy. They operate on Executive Privilege so they can oppress Palestinians without impunity while never having to face the penalties for committing Terrorism and war crimes.. The West Bank is the longest standing occupation in the World in modern History.
Palestinians have the Right to exist.
Why should Israel welcome christian refugees and not england, the US, France or many more christian countries? Why should Israel welcome people from a religion that persecuted the jews for 1500+ years???
Also, you don't have to be jewish in order to be a citizen of Israel. In fact, more than 20% of Israel's population aren't jews (they are arab)
You seem to lack critical knowledge in history and Judaism that would help you to understand why the jewish people need a specific country of their own, so please, do your research.
While the information in this video is not necessarily incorrect, I do not believe it paints an accurate picture. While it is understandable that Jewish refugees needed to relocate, one cannot expect a country to have half of its land taken from it and stay silent. The arab attacks were completely understandable, and should have been accounted for given that half of Palestine was given to the Jews. Secondly, I do not think that the expulsion of or crimes against the Jews living in arab countries is justified by any means. However, crimes were committed on both sides. Israel continued to take more land from Palestine after the agreement, something that is not mentioned in the video. There are also countless UN violations and crimes being committed against Palestinians today. The Palestinian territories are being converted into Jewish neighborhoods, and Jews are persuaded to move into these homes. Both sides have reasons to blame the opposing side for being unjust. However, we cannot deny that what happened and is happening to Palestine is unjust and inhumane.
Then where was the outcry when 5/6 of the Mandate was turned into Jordan? For someone who claims to be unbiased, you are very one-sided.
@@SafetySpooonI think it has something to do with that land not being part of their history. The UK caused many of the problems in the Middle East following WW2. You can’t just start borders with no respect to ethnicity, creed, religion, historical boundaries, etc. and think that everything is going to be hunky dory
@@0501Cocoa Mandatory Palestine. There were 7 times more Muslims there than Jewish people when it was created and almost as many Christian Palestinians as Jewish people. But Palestine has roots all of the way back to antiquity. Jewish people stated immigrating there in droves over the next two decades. Their population increased by 7 fold until there were over 500,000 Jewish people in Palestine. This was deliberate. They wanted a Jewish state and they wanted from Palestine’s land. The Muslim population was over 1 million at this time with over 100,000 Palestinian Christians. The UN adopted a TWO STATE SOLUTION in 1947 where the State of Israel would be given land from Palestine. Israel established itself a country and any Jewish person could immigrate to Israel and become an Israeli citizen. Palestine rejected this and a war was fought. Israel won and then took lands that were not part of the UN deal and were against international law. They expelled 700,000 Palestinians from their homeland. Israel has rejected a two-state solution ever since which was THE DEAL for them getting a country in the first place. They took Jerusalem and most of the West Bank. Later they took the Golan Heights, also against international law. And since Israel is backed by the US and has a very advanced military(with US help) and nuclear weapons(also with US help), the Palestinians can’t do much to get their land back. Jerusalem was supposed to be under international control under the two state solution. But both Palestine and Israel declare it their capital. They both have deep historical and religious ties to the land. The Israelis essentially run an apartheid state at the moment. Gaza is a place that is blockaded by land, sea, and air. If any other country blockaded another country’s land, airspace, and coast, it would be considered an act of war. Till this day, Israeli settlers take Palestinian land and homes in the West Bank. Google “Israeli settler violence” and you’ll find ample evidence of this.
Well said
@@0501Cocoawhatever man. You think you’re so clever like no one has said that before. Regardless of technicalities, if you are unable to see a moral issue in this then you are objectively immoral
Most countries achieve independence by either overthrowing their own government to install a new government (Russia, France) or overthrow a colonial government that is oppressive (half of Africa and South America). Israel's War of Independence in 1948-9 was against the invading neighbors - the British had already left. (OOPS!)
Before the arabs attacked, everybody stayed on his territory divided by the UN.
But the Jewish immigrants declared independence BEFORE the war. So independence--from whom?
@@khubza8999 The declaration of Independence formally the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel was proclaimed the same day when the British mandate was terminated. So in other words the formal Independence from the Brits, de facto Establishment of the state.
The British war started before they announced Israel.
@@khubza8999 how are they immigrants if they been there since 1300 B.C.E🤔? I’m black Muslim btw I’m just stating what I’ve seen historically. It’s like calling native Americans immigrants in the Americas , I’m just saying and not taking sides here.
Zuheir Mohsen was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979. 1977 Interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw:
" The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity."
Herodotus thought otherwise. He called it Palestine 500 BC.
Your narrative was encouraged to gain the support of Arab people.
Go check El maqdisi 11th century
Ibn Batuta
Old world maps
Coins.
Besides if there were lybians Lebanese Syrians. - only Palestinians didn’t exist ?
*hours old* means the UN gave a bunch of European Jews someone else’s land and those people said no thanks.
You mean the British empire's land? You can learn more here: ua-cam.com/video/EDSxwh3uu9c/v-deo.html
@@UNPACKEDif it’s territory of a Foreign empire what right do they have to give away that land
Before the British had it, the Ottomans had control, before the Ottomans it was the Christian Crusaders, before them, it was the Saladin and the Ayyubid dynasty, before the Saladin it was the Christian Crusaders again, then the Caliph Omar, the Christian Byzantines, the Persians, then the Roman Empire-- who expelled many of the ancestors of those European Jews. I could go on. There was Alexander the Great, the Babylonians, the Assyrians, none of which were native to the land, yet colonized it several times over. It is a land that has been handed from empire to empire for generations, yet when the expelled ancestors of the indigenous population want to move back, it's suddenly immoral? I'm sorry, but that makes no sense to me.
@@UNPACKED CRAZY
@obyarnold599 Those European Jews are the descendants of the native peoples of Judea and Samaria, who were then expelled by the Roman Empire, which is a big part of how the Jewish Diaspora began. The land had been occupied by one empire or another for hundreds of years. The Babylonians had control, then the Persians, then the Greeks, the Romans, the Arabs, then the Christian Crusaders, and eventually the Ottomans (a Muslim empire) who handed it over to the British after WW1. It flies in the face of history to say that this is only Palestinian land when Jews have lived there and were expelled from there before the Palestinian identity even existed. Both groups have a right to live in their ancestral homeland, and this selective reading of history you've put forth only causes more violence, suffering, and conflict by erasing the history of an entire race of people. Not cool.
Yet again, Europeans settling in land that was preoccupied because it didnt have a government nor an army.
Jews are not ethnically European any more than Arabs are.
I think Arabs have to take this one on the chin, they took plenty of land from people. They could have made Palestinian state if they had accepted a small israelí state. They chose war instead , still Israel should give Palestinians their rights
Arbz in Israel have the same rights as any other citizen. The others are not citizens. They get their rights, or lack thereof, from the PA & the Hamassholes. Israel doesnt owe those who have been trying to destroy the Jewish nation for a century straight a d-mn thing. ... but your right, about the rest. Those Arbz would have had a state decades ago if that was their actual goal and they most definitely need to deal with the consequences of their own poor and hostile choices for a change.
@@starhopper408 you are right about hamas and plo but there is definitely discrimination from the israeli side too,like how they treat Arabs from the West Bank .The killing of innocent civilians is unacceptable , I know hamas and such doesn’t care about any innocent people but you have to be better than them . I believe both side have to admit to wrongdoing. Palestinians have to understand Israel have a right to exist and Israel have to protect/care for the Palestinians. We are all human
@@kingmir5 Arbz that live in Judea & Samaria are not citizens, they are the ones that insist on being the enemy. Israel doesn't owe them anything. And Israel doesn't k anyone for $h*tz & giggles either, nor are most of those killed anywhere near innocent. Occasionally truly innocent people are harmed however, but that too is due to the environment the Arbz insist on creating. When you have no idea what man, woman or child will be the next terrorist, $h*t like that is unavoidable no matter how you try to avoid it. ... and btw, we are all human, very true, but we do not all have the same mentality, values, etc. That makes a big difference.
@@kingmir5 Innocents that die exists in every war sadly. This is not specifically in Israel. Also, if we speak about deaths in Gaza, it is because Hamas is using their civilians as human shields. The Gaza bishop admitted it, so did a Finnish reporter, and much more.
@@starhopper408 you can’t judge a son for the crimes of the father
The Palestinians should have been allowed back. Not all who were pushed out had violent tendencies. This is like saying all the rioters during the pandemic were the result of an entire people. War is chaotic but to not allow the citizens of their land back to their homes is wrong. But I can also understand that the situation isn’t entirely simple and straight forward. Perhaps if the Palestinian citizens came back where their land now occupied by Israeli military, some would have been hostile towards the Israelis and create ground militias in opposition to the Israeli troops occupying their land. The strategy to hold on to the land by keeping out any possible threat is equivalent to throwing out the baby with the bath water. Many land natives were probably secular and didn’t have any particular religious agenda or affiliation to some racial pan-Arab plan. Most probably just wanted to coexist and live in peace, but mostly they just wanted to keep their homes.
1/6 *were* allowed to go back, under family re-unification.
unfortunatelly it's called collateral damage. Every war has them. That's why you need to be very careful chosing your leaders. So they don't lead you to war like Palestine leaders did.
Muslims should give back over $15 trillion worth of land and assets they stole from Jews since 1940s.
Palestinians have a history of antisemitism since 1926, in which the entire Jewish population of the city of Hebron was erased by Arab mobs over a fake rumor that the Jews were planning to seize some historical site. Only British military intervention brought it to an end, though too late.
Palestine not only was a lesser-known Axis power and Arab ally to Nazi Germany, but also a collaborator and co-conspirator in Hitler’s Holocaust. The grand mufti of Palestine spun up a PR campaign recruiting Bosnian Muslims into the Waffen SS, the armed forces of the infamous German military branch known for extensive war crimes, as part of their combined anti-Jewish efforts. Many of these Bosnian Muslims were paroled to go home by Allied forces when they pinned the blame for their actions on “orders forced upon them by evil white Germans”; instead of going home, they went to Palestine to become trainers for its Arab League coalition fighters in terror tactics and combat training specifically aimed against Jews.
When Zionists settlers started coming, those Arabs weren’t waiting to expel them. They were planning to exterminate the Holocaust survivors.
I'll admit that you're right from a morality perspective, but given Israel's still fragile position they did a good deal.
Arabs, not Palestinians. Those weren't invented until the mid-1960s.
Herodotus called it Palestine 500 B.C btw
@@Offa7a Palastu was a kingdom in north Syria. That is a misunderstanding of what he wrote or a scribal error.
@@Offa7a The term "Palestine" is not found on any extant Hellenistic coin or inscription. In other words, there is no attestation for its use in an official context in the Hellenistic period. "Palestine" did not come into official use until the early second century a.d., when the emperor Hadrian decided to rename the province of Judaea; for its new name he chose "Syria Palaestina." In other words what is attributed to Herodotus seems to be a scribal error or later "correction."
@@1czechit1BS BS BS
Herodotus called it Palestine 500 BC
He pin pointed it Between Phoenicia and Egypt
Some of the highest quality wine used to be produced there.
El Maqdesi (11th century) called it Palestine and on lointedmost of the towns their non BS Hebrew Names.
Ibn Batuta Calked it Palestine.
Many many old maps pointed it as Palestine.
In the mean time have you found your city of David.
Any proof of your cartoonish exodus.
Israel is a settler colonial apartheid.
Shut up.
@@1czechit1 BS BS BS
Herodotus called it Palestine 500 BC
He pin pointed it Between Phoenicia and Egypt
Some of the highest quality wine used to be produced there.
El Maqdesi (11th century) called it Palestine and on lointedmost of the towns their non BS Hebrew Names.
Ibn Batuta Calked it Palestine.
Many many old maps pointed it as Palestine.
In the mean time have you found your city of David.
Any proof of your cartoonish exodus.
Israel is a settler colonial apartheid.
Shut up.
Jerusalem will never again be taken from Judah.
Amen!
I don’t think you are the first jew who said that 🤔
@@sorrybro4890 Things are different now. 🤔
@@starhopper408 no they’re not everything comes to and end
The jews before you thought the same
@@sorrybro4890 Everything does come to an end, I'll agree with that statement, but this is not the past. There is no possibility of mil itary victory for them. They can only lose or really, really, really lose.
I never quite understood the Israel's founding myth. It's like someone broke into my home attempting to steal my stuff and I tried to defend myself and my property, but I was killed in the process. The guy get's a good lawyer and not only does he get off by claiming self defense, but he is awarded all my stuff for me inconveniencing him by defending myself. But the final insult is that I'm now suppose to be the villain of the story.
We’re glad you acknowledge that you don’t quite understand. Sounds you should learn more about the history - about the Ottoman Empire, the British Mandate of Palestine, the Hebron riots of 1929, the Peel Commission, the UN Partition Plan, the resulting Arab war of Arab 1947, and finally Israel’s Declaration of Independence and the resulting war, which Arabs call the Nakba. We actually have a whole playlist of these videos here: ua-cam.com/play/PL-DNOnmKkUabY07UJYCRIYTu0X9IdVQb0.html
Let us know if you’d like more recommendations - we have 100s more videos!
@@UNPACKED Well I am currently reading "The Hundred Years' War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917--2017" by Rashid Khalidi, would that be a good start?
Depends. Some have critiqued him for
romanticizing Palestine and demonizing Israel, which makes his retelling of history seem untrustworthy. Definitely encourage you to learn from multiple sources and perspectives if you want a full understanding. And especially if you don’t understand Israel’s side, you should try and listen to Israel’s side too
@@UNPACKED I have, I have read the Pulitzer Prize winning Arab and Jew by David K Shipler which helps me to understand what it is like for the various people that populate the area. It didn't seem to romanticize either side. I have read Tony Judt's epic book on postwar Europe which describes the creation of Israel and the political circumstances surrounding it. I have read "1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War" by Benny Morris. I have read "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe and other books by this same author.
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Some books I have net yet gotten round to reading: "1967" by Tom Segev - "Paris 1919" by Margaret MacMillan - "Shattered Dreams: The Failure of the Peace Process in the Middle East 1995-2002" by Charles Enderlin - "Kingmakers: The Invention of the Modern Middle East" by Karl E. Meyer & Shareen Blair Brysac - "A History of the Arab Peoples" by Albert Hourani - "Yiddish Civilisation: The Rise and Fall of a Forgotten Nation" By Paul Kriwaczek - "A History of the Jews" By Paul Johnson - "The Secret History of the American Empire" by John Perkins - "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" by Jimmy Carter - "Israel/Palestine: How to End the War of 1948" by Tanya Reinhart (plus the works of prolific writers such as Noam Chomsky & Naomi Klein)
a brief factual way of describing the atrocity that is israel..
Why don't you ever interview Palestinians as well? When this channel first launched I had hope that it would be a new space for discourse which would connect between the youth if the two sides. Sadly it has become a one sided space looking to impose it's views instead of listening to others.
Go watch Al Jazeera for a one sided story, or TRT, lots of them.
Jews are barely able to speak their mind of the situation anyway
There's Al Jazeera to present the Palestinian lies.
When have you ever asked any Arab channel to interview Israelis?
Good point. So many channels present only one side.
I don't even know what to believe anymore
Read the Old Testament, the Jews are "the chosen people" because Abraham is the father of all people and God gave Abraham all of what is known now as the Holy Land. That was 5000 years ago, what you people are talking about is in the last century. There were no Arabs 5000 years ago. There were no Palestinians 5000 years ago. So when the Jews say "The Bible is their ownership of land", that is what they are talking about, the Old Testament.
@Mohd Aidil Lokman what? But Doesn't that support zionism xddddd
Humanity sucks and the only solution is a nuclear apocalypse,or just have a supernova wipe us all out,idc at this point i just hate everyone
@@hanna319 you are saying you don't believe the Quran because it is more recent than the Jewish bible? does authenticity counted from which is the oldest? Also, the only reason I think you don't believe in prophet Muhammad was because he is an Arab. Racism?
@@sheilagodby5257 does that give Israeli's the license to bomb and kill people?
They didn't call themselves Palestinians until 1967. I know because I was an adult before then, and they were just Arabs.
Not true.
Herodotus called it Palestine 500 BC
Besides if there were Libyans Syrians Lebanese why only the Palestinians didn’t exist???
I can solve this entire issue. LIVE SIDE BY SIDE LIKE AMERICANS. THERES ENOUGH ROOM FOR ALL OF YOU
Sure, but mohammed said to murder all the Jews.
That's what this is all about.
Gotta give credit where its due, Arabs are able and willing to send tens of thousands of troops to die anytime and they keep doing it while the other side are happy to despatch the troops to the next life.
2000 years ago Romans kicked the Jews off there land and Romans called that land Palestine. The Jews had two kingdoms there prior to the Romans forced exodus of Jews. As far as I know there was never a Palestinian kingdom prior to that time or since. Arabs lived there but it was nomadic tribes that occupied those lands. My understanding is that it was swamp land before that. Why do Palestinians lay claim to the land after the fact.
Arab Palestinians only. The Arab pan nationalism movement wanted to keep the entire region of their former empire. They wanted to govern the area and didn't want Jews to be the government nor to share government.
It was the same during Indian independence. Muslims could stand coexisting with Hindus. So they all moved north into a new country called Palestine.
They didn't try to destroy India and India did not try to destroy them. They sucked it up and got on with building their countries.
There are external forces controlling Palestine and sabotaging every moment of peace, every chance to join the UN as an independent country. Lots of Arab warlords are getting rich on Palestinian misery.
That's the truth of it.
Most Arabs came after the Jews.
Also have you heard of the Torah ? Like Israelites were also nomadic this is such a dumb claim.
Whoever separate that land in such a weird manner must be out of his mind
You mean the UN? lol
It was based on population demographic maps at the time.
I know it was the UN but whoever did said the UN is infallable?
@@codybitme The whole idea of seperation was stupid to begin with, the British tried it in india and caused the muslims and hinus in the land, which before then have been living together without any problems, to become enemies.
I believe if they left us israelies and Palestinians to form a nation ourselves, we could have created one equal state without this conflict.
@@Fgqwetttyvu Israel insisted that a Jewish state must be created. There was no way the Arabs were going to agree to that.
@@femmy820
But Israel is not a jewish state lol.
I like that people call this video propangda, even though they can't even disprove any claims in this video.
Funny how the jews returned to their land, fought extremely hard for it, and had to give parts of it back. They literally offered more land to the palestinians but they decided they want all the land which is why their "country" is not officially recognised yet. There are almost 3 million arabs in israel who live in peace and have full rights AND are treated in hospitals, yet people complain that the jews don't want peace.
Returned to thier land , as a palestinina you cant deny me from my land i have jewish arab western asian greek and north african dna it doenst matter what you say you cant deny my connection
@@afterchangey2554 I agree, hope one day this conflict will be behind us and we will live together in peace within one state for israelis and Palestinians alike
@@afterchangey2554 Most "Palestinans" were not fron that land, but came from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and other countries.
The Jews appealed to the Arabs ti stat in their houses and to help them build a country together - Thst had 5 other Arab armies attack the 1 day old Israel
The Palestinians lost 5 wars and 2 intafadas.,and as the loser now they want to return??? It doesn't work that way
@@Fgqwetttyvu That can not happen. - unless the Pakestinianz go to Jordan the Arab country made of 77% of the Mandate land.
@@rachelsamuel3328 you clearly didn't research enough, palestinians never fought a war Palestine never had an army, also look up Oslo accords , and no I did a dna test and I do have Jewish in fact I think i even have more Samaritans jews than you
All Balestinians need to support Israel, because 80% of them are Jews who were forced to convert to Islam during the middle ages, and beacuse Israel treats them so respectfully. God bless Israel! 🇮🇱🕎.
Im palestinian and i did a dna test im about one quarter jewish apparently
@@muzz444 cool! convert and become a citizen (if you want).
@@Jewish_Israeli_Zionist im already a citizen and i will never convert, im an athiest
@@muzz444 if you are already a citizen, you are not a Palestinian 😊
It means you are an Israeli Arab. And regarding to your religion, it's a pity, because Judaism is the source of monotheism, so one must celebrate the fact he has Jewish genes! 🎉
Please watch the video titled, *_"Palestinians of Jewish Origin higher resolution"_* it is on the UA-cam channel of Misinai Tsvi.
People act like Zionism started in the 19th century … literally starts with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
During Abraham's time, war was could NOT be avoided. Either u fight or die. When the Israelites returned from Egypt to the Promised Land of Canaan, they conquered their way through & continued to do so after they have settled on their land. Unlike the Arabs, they waged war in 1948 & after being defeated, played victims as refugees. The land was the Jews, they defended it successfully & now they are the illegal occupiers.
@@samuuluinavucu1246 Well, I didn't defend the methods of Zionism, only that Zionism is an ancient ideology. I would only note that you say "unlike the Arabs..." but that ignores the fact that Arabs fought as well, on both sides. Both sides are at fault for the violence of course but to put all the blame on the Jews is to lie. Arabs fought alongside the Jews to establish the state of Israel in 1948, while Jordan, Egypt, and other Arab states invaded to prevent such a state from existing. As you said, war is as ancient as Abraham and unfortunately is still with us and sometimes is necessary (nevertheless tragically) to bring about justice.
Zionism is an indigenous rights movement.
So why aren’t Palestinians allowed to live in Palestine then? They too descend from the patriarchs and back then « jews » didn’t exist.
That’s right, they have been invading other peoples lands since their inception
The British mandate is not even mentioned Unpacked is largely a Isreal funded channel and I am unsubscribing. Not all Jews are isreali and not all Israelis are Jews. A Jew is a person allied with God and believing in the Torah doing good deeds and forbidding bad ones. Zionism is what Israelis follow. Jews follow the Word of God and follow what is Good and right not whatever they want
To answer your question yes Israel did expel Palestinian Arabs in an operation proposed by David Ben-Gurion known as Plan Dalet and executed by the Haganna. This lead directly to the Arab invasion by other countries.
If you want to learn more, we made a whole video about that: ua-cam.com/video/wjysy7ONisA/v-deo.html We've actually made dozens of videos talking about the history of this conflict - unpacking everything you mentioned, and a lot more. I encourage you to check them out and understand more of the real history of Israel, the context and realities of this terrible conflict.
700k Palestinians fled to Westbank, Jordan, Lebanon.
800k jews fled From Arab countries to Israel.
Vis a vis.
No, Arabs are still living in occupied territory with no human rights or basic resources because Israel forbids them from even having enough water
@@thegreypenguin5097 lies, they can be in high court, in governmend, doctors etc, full rights.
I find it very interesting that in multiple videos, they've mentioned that Palestine was the only safe place that Jews could be, even before the establishment of Isreal. It's almost like the native population there, of Muslims and Christians supported and welcomed them to the holy land.
And its almost like, if it wasn't for the creation of state of Israel by zionists, jews wouldn't have been expelled from Arab land or Persia in which they had lived there for centuries and prospered mostly in peace and harmony.
@@rainbowdash6835 very interesting....
It's almost like, everybody including the muslims and christians of those times understood that the jewish connection to israel was as strong, or even stronger than their own. not like today's palestinians who claim jews have no connection to the land, and that we're all of european decent!
not to mention that the ottoman empire controlled the land, and they were very open to the migration of jewish people, so whether or not the locals cared didn't matter!
also can't forget that the jewish community in israel has been around since they were exiled by the roman empire - it was just a much much smaller community, who had to be complicit with the roman rule, and the rule of those who came after.
It's also funny that the creation of israel justifies racism and ethnic cleansing towards jews?¿ like damn if it wasn't for the jewish people finding sovereignty in the only place it makes sense for them to, we wouldn't of expelled them from our land or massacred them, even though these jews have absolutely nothing to do with the creation of israel.
Palestine was a successful colonialist project, and the palestinian people were complicit with the ottoman empires goals to colonize land that isn't theirs! That all ended when the jews rightfully returned to the land that was theirs, being even more forgiving than the occupational governments that came before them toward a group of people (palestinians) who only play nice if the jews are submissive.
It’s almost as if, the local Muslim and Christian populations weren’t the ones running the area. And the idea that Jews would have prospered in Islamic lands if we hadn’t fled…what a good joke 😂
not true. Jews were murdered in so called uprisings that were really pogroms. Children and women were raped mutiliated and murdered.
Your family could’ve stayed in the UK or America, Canada and 100s of other countries and was it a coincidence that Zionism’s idea was born before WW1???
There were many Palestinians live all across Palestine. And yes they were displaced and the people who did did not leave we're killed and some Palestinians were burned. There are videos for Israel i solders admitting killing Palestinians, after 1948, but they have doing that since 1948.
I don't know about the videos you were talking about, things weren't one sided as you decribed. Arabs tried to kill Jews even BEFORE 1948 or 1947. Im 1929 there killed and kicked out many. So why when it's the other way around it's not okay all of a sudden?
What is Palestine? What are Palestinians?
@@Bradley_Lute they are heroes. You can't understand the meaning of Palestine because it means to resist the occupation, while you are the occupier.
@@aseelsbox5111 Palestinians were offered a two state solution and refused, then proceeded to join the Arab Coalition in attacking in 1947.
You are not a victim nor a resistor for literally attempting to surprise attack and murder others, failing at it, and then your own actions causing others to decide to kill you
One day after the Jewish people were given the land in 1947, 5 surrounding Arab states attacked them, instead of attacking the British specifically for breaking their promise of land to the Palestinians which was a ruse for them to fight for the British, which was also a lie that they fed to the French as well, so using the argument of "Arabs helped fight for the land and didn't get any!" as your argument means that you'd also have to think that the French are also entitled to a portion of the land.
The Arab Coalition (with a chunk of Palestinians) waited for the nation's establishment and then initiated the first attack against those Jewish people several times across decades and lost every single time.
Any proofs of what you're saying?
Did Palestinian Arabs have any say in the partition plan? I'm thinking no...
The Palestinian people were private land owners of their houses and crops, and were expelled from them. This is a much more direct impact over who is administering government.
Lots of the land, lived on by Israeli..were sold to them by absentee landowners....who ridiculed the Jews for paying good money..for SAND.....
Only through hard work was the land made arable
@@hisham_hm The British Land Survey of 1945. showed that the Palestinians only owned 3.3% of the land. The wealthy Arab absentee land owners owned only 16.5% of the land, the Jews owned 8.6% of the land and 70% of the land was State Land transferred by the Ottomans to the British and then to Israel. Israel was created bu almost 80% of non-Arab owned lands,,there was no land stolen, the Palestinians were not land owners they were Bedouins and felahims (tenant farmers)
Umm yes they had a big say. Their say was NO, they wanted all of it. So they tried to take it all by force and lost.
The most idi🤡tic question of the day.
So while it is true that you do not deny that the Nakba happened, your approach to it was that it was merely a “wartime decision” that could not have been avoided, and that what was done to Israelis was far worse. That’s actually way worse than just denying it because you make it sound like the Palestinians deserved it.
Indeed. “Liberal zionists” are the worst
How are you guys victims of a war you started? You were the ones going the Jewish settlements and areas and attacking them, then cry victims when they drove back your attacks and drove your militias and people away. Jewish settlers were taking uninhabited land and did not intrude on Muslim land, but you had to uphold Dar-Islam and attack them for being non-Muslims coming into Muslim land (previously Jewish and Christian land that stolen by Muslim during the Islamic conquests)
You started a war because you didn't want Jews living next to you and you lost, you're not the victim.
During and before the war, you guys actively displaced Jews and there are still Jews descendants of those who were displaced then you play victim and Jews evicting Palestinian communities that were attacking them is somehow bad.
Nakba is Muslims ordered and lured out of their homes by Arab leaders and then being abandoned by them.
The Arab countries expelled their Jewish communities and stole their property.
@@toade1583this is the kind of mental sickness that nationalism creates in people. you’re saying that because some Arabs attacked Jewish settlers, then that makes killing or expelling other Arabs from their land perfectly acceptable because they’re part of the same ethnic group that wronged you, the same logic that extremists on the Palestinian side use to justify attacking random Jewish civilians. That’s called collective punishment and it’s a war crime.
Maybe they did. As today
4:32 10s of thousands? Minimising it makes it propaganda. Hundreds od thousands. 750k
Not minimizing the total number, but you’re referring to the number that were proven to be expelled by Israeli forces - which was not hundreds of thousands.
If you listen to your umma to move out, you cannot blame Israel for it.
The Unpacked name sounds too neutral. You should name the channel after your domain, which is more descriptive about which team you're playing for.
The propaganda machine is in full effect…
Is there anything incorrect here?
@@UNPACKEDeverything
wow, real specific!
@@UNPACKED just like your mom
@@UNPACKED how much is Israeli government paying you for this
Sigh. The Arab Executive Committee, among others, ordered the evacuation ahead of their invasion. They lost, but refused all compromises that would have resettled "Palestinians" back on their homesteads because to do so would be to recognize Israel as a nation. There's a lot more to the story, like Israeli reparations to the Arabs, and the protection act Custodian of Abandoned Property, but that sums it up.
Fom the Refugee Conference at Homs, Syria:
Any discussion aimed at a solution of the Palestine problem which will not be based on ensuring the refugees’ right to annihilate Israel will be regarded as a desecration of the Arab people and an act of treason (Beirut al Massa, July 15, 1957).
Perpetuating a lie is not the way to portray history. "Palestinians" were concocted in 1964, that's 16 years after these events.
“The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians,
Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’
to oppose Zionism.
“For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.” -Zahir Muhsein, PLO executive committee member, in a March 31, 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper “Trouw”.
Not exactly. At the time of the Arab revolt against the British in the 30th, their Mufti Hag Amin El Husseini wanted to give the local Arab people a nationality and he came out with the invention they are PA's and also gave them false history.
It's also true that this region was called by the British Palestina - AI.
@@simko8665 It was not The Mufti, it was the KGB and their asset, Yasser Arafat in 1964 in the PLO Charter of 1964.
@@shainazion4073 The KGB?? It was the Mufti at the 30th during the big revolt against the British. Can you show where you saw that the KGB was involved?
@@simko8665 Do a websearch of "Yasser Arafat and the KGB" and the "Palestinians and the KGB" The best psy-ops plan ever run by the KGB.
I’m glad that the comments see through this bs
What bs these women propping up.
They were not called Jews, the word Jew is a new term. The Torah/Bible called the children of the Most High Hebrews or Israelites. The letter “J” is only 400 to 500 years old. Both I and J were used interchangeably by scribes to express the sound of both the vowel and the consonant. It wasn’t until 1524 when Gian Giorgio Trissino, an Italian Renaissance grammarian known as the father of the letter J, made a clear distinction between the two sounds. It is so hard to get the truth from the deceivers. Who controls the truth on the earth?
“who teacheth us more than the beasts of the earth, and maketh us wiser than the fowls of heaven? There they cry, but none giveth answer, because of the pride of evil men. Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it.”
Job 35:11-13 KJVAAE
“For the Lord is great, and greatly to be praised: he is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the Lord made the heavens.”
Psalm 96:4-5 KJVAAE
All religions are pagan both wood and stone.
Jews aka Jude are people descendants from the ancient Judea. In Hebrew and Arabic it sounds like Yehudim (Yehud)
How is a Gnostic deist a pagan?
What are you smoking???
So the central thesis of the video is that two wrongs make a right?
The only thing this shows is that the Jews deserve their own land… and Germany should it give it to them, in Germany. Not Palestine.
Jews are from Judea---hence the name.
Hey Unpacked I generally like your videos, some of your recent videos have concerned me quite a bit as much of the history you are giving is wildly inaccurate or missing critical chunks of historical information that need to be explained. You actually had someone on your videos say Palestinians are indigenous to Israel? This is demonstrably false. Historical events like the San Remo conference, treaty of Sevre and other parts of history like Arab Radio saying “leave your homes as we drive the Jews into the Sea” you suggest are just another equal narrative, but the radio broadcast exist. this isn’t opinión it is fact and I have heard the broadcasts to prove it. It’s ok to present both sides just actually tell people important contexts that drastically change your skewed narrative. These videos seem extremely self flagellating, while at the same time historically inaccurate.
How do you define "indigenous"? How are Palestinians not indigenous to Israel/Palestine?
@@Lvsl_iftdv because they are a loose conglomeration of Arabs who migrated to Israel during the Ottoman and Jordanian periods 75% of which came in the last 150 years concomitant to the rise of Zionist immigration, the Arabs here vary greatly between region, tribe, Bedouin vs non Bedouin, north south middle, and country of origin. many of whom have habitacional names like Al masri (Egyptian), Al Saada (Saudi), Al hejazi (saudi), and many more. The Arabic they speak can be different depending on region and tribe, and many of them were force converted Jews and Samaritan’s during the Ottoman period, they are not indigenous they are a byproduct of Ottoman colonialism. Saying they are indigenous makes about as much sense as calling French people indigenous to England, or English indigenous to the United States.
@@Lvsl_iftdvPalestinians are Arabs. Arabs are as indigenous to the Holy Land as they are to Iran, Iraq, India, or any other country they invaded and colonized.
They are also extremely biased with how they bring up certain topics and constantly try to make themselves appear morally superior and blatantly disregard key facts in this conflict. On top of that this is a sponsored post and this entire UA-cam channel is clearly centred around trying to spread propaganda.
Personally I don’t see why the Israelis can’t have their own sovereign country considering the historical complexity they have been forced to endure. I know my country the United States of America is talking about billions of $ In aide for Ukraine. I would rather pay $1,000,000 us to each Palestinian family to relocate their families in Arib countries and Seattle this issue once and for all! I am sure we the people of the United States of America would pay less then on this war in Ukraine. To make sure it is feasible to the American tax payers, I am sure we can work out some financial agreements with the Israelis. After calculating the costs of security declining, due to the end of hostilities, it would become obvious that everyone would win in the long run. Jewish businesses could work with Muslim businesses and have amazing outcomes. Muslims, Jews and Christian’s have lived in peace in that region for thousands of years. We need to start the healing at some point.
Sounds like reparations. The US has its own reparations to deal with first
And how will you explain to the palestinian population that they have to relocate? Even with the money. Not everybody wants to leave. It is unlikely that the neighbouring countries have the resources to welcome houndresthousands of new citizens if not millions.
@@maxizzda8011 we are actually talking about a small piece of land in comparison to the surrounding region. In all honesty countries already are taking in Palestinian refugees and have been ever since the beginning of this conflict. I personally know Palestinian families that have relocated here in the US. The stories they shared were heartbreaking. So any peaceful solution to an end of this issue is greatly needed. From what I have heard, this year is going to be very violent in that region.
@@xxSURExxSHOTxx doesn't matter small or not. It's misappropriation
Because they are a state of Zionist terrorists
Why arent you talking about Tantura and Deir Yassin?
Don’t worry - we have a whole video about Deir Yassin: ua-cam.com/video/ezAsaKzQQtE/v-deo.html
Anything else you’d like to learn about? We have 100s more videos unpacking all aspects of this story and terrible conflict
Deir Yassin was a hostile village used to attack Jewish convoys to a besieged Jewish population in Jerusalem. It was justifiably attacked and what happened was a battle
Why don't YOU talk about Hebron, that and the farhud?
Here you go @tiago5339
Hebron: ua-cam.com/video/c3MO7dJpsdI/v-deo.htmlsi=uGpngMe6ApX4LBWg
Farhud: ua-cam.com/video/DnXSOQqzaKA/v-deo.htmlsi=poJE6nmXcogKe2gh
@@UNPACKEDAren't you talking about TANTURA?
I ask directly Palestinians and pro-palestinians a simple question and wait for a simple answer. Now, and I mean now, what are you demanding from the Israelis? What is your goal? If the Israelis accept your demand will you stop fighting the Israel state?
we want all of OUR land back and we want u to go back to europe
@@ziadghannam7704 And that is exactly why peace is impossible, I wish one day both our peoples will leave in the land in peace and together, but we israelis are not going anywhere.
Instead of holding onto this toxic mindset of all or nothing that leaves no place for peace, as two states or as a united state for israelis and Palestinians, you should realise that neither of us are going anywhere and we need to find a solution for both, hence @Georg Hotos's question to try and see what each side needs for peace so the people, not the governments, can come together and find a peaceful and equal solution.
We are all cousins and should act like it, hope we both live to see this conflict come to a good ending.
@@ziadghannam7704 and by the way, I'm Morrocan, Tunisian and Yemeni, not European.
@@ziadghannam7704 arabs belongs to the arabian desert. this is israel. 🇮🇱❤
@@jerusalemite6522 Arabs and Canaanites, Phoenicians, Acadians have been in the levant and Iraq for 10000 years, thousands of years before any Jew walked on earth.
Go back to Lithuania
Free Palestine
From Hamas, right?
So glad people can still discern propaganda from historical videos.
We’re glad people continue to watch our historical videos, and educate themselves about the complexities of history.
Yeah nice try buddy 🤣@@UNPACKED
The Jewish people know how racists they are in private. How they call no jews goyim and human animals.
Israel and israelis will always be a pariah in the Middle East. No one will accept you until the palestinians get their state. You need the peace more than the arabs.
You should learn more about the Abraham Accords: ua-cam.com/video/O8Vi02Wi0SM/v-deo.html
Im not antisemitic im antizionism
Can you define what a Jew is?
And explain why Jews all over are being harassed even the non Zionist ones? (See Tunisia destroyed temple )
Keep calm we don't want another Nakba 0:01
It’s okay to be both
Antizionism=antisemitism
You invaded because your ambitions were beyond just palestine. You know you wanted Jordan parts of syria, iraq, Egypt, and more... keep lying the world is watching.
Funny because when they won the territories in Jordan and Egypt in the 67 war, they ended up giving it back later. So there goes your ahistorical expansionist narrative.
LOL. If they wanted that, they would have had it. Your heroes wouldn't have been able to stop them.
@kenabbott8585 they still want it, and they can't have it, Israel is a paper tiger. They run out ordnance in a week. Keep lying to to yourself
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Bruh I thought this video was gonna be informative, not a biased subject to the conflict.
How sad that the Arabs aren' the saint they say they are....
This is like a Palestinian high school project.
So, answer some questions for me.
What is the Palestinian 'cause'? What is the endgame?
Do you think the Gazan wall and fly over surveillance was necessary security protection for Israel?
Where is Israel occupying Palestine?
Did Hamas act in the best interest of Palestinians by attacking Israel on Oct 7th and taking hostages?
Who is bankrolling Hamas and what is their agenda? Is it protect Palestinians is it to build a country?
How did Gaza/Palestine spend 13 billion aid money to Gaza?
Seventy five years is a human lifetime. Do you think
it's wise to spend that time making suicide bombs like Ted Kasinksky? Do you see better alternatives?
What does Palestine need to do to become a full UN member country?
Palestine is an Arabic word for football. The Arab world kept telling them to reject peace plans over & over for a promise that they would help eradicate Israel in the future. Four, humiliating Arab-Israeli wars later & now October 7th, but this time the Arab world didn’t join the cause they been promising for decades. These poor Palestinians civilians needed to be resettled decades ago. The Arab world has the money & space, but they wouldn’t have a football to kick at Israel.
Because we were persecuted in Europe, that evidently gave us the right to steal what belonged to the Palestinians…
youre not jewish, stfu.
@@peytongorshavitzki6933 So I’m right then…
The fact that this is sponsored should tell you every thing
We made a PARADISE out of the empty desert that were here back when the ottomans and the British ruled here. 73 years and counting! The world could never be the same without Israel 🇮🇱
Shalom Rabbi there is no nickle here...
I have Mizrahi Jewish DNA, I come from both Turkish and Palestinian Ancestry however my family converted to Islam generations back. I fully support the right for Israel to exist, and even more the right for Jewish people to be able to return to their homeland! I have many Israeli and Jewish friends and we get along as much as I would with per-say a Palestinian Muslim or Christian. Regardless, the way that Israel was established was through violation of International law and warcrimes, and until Palestinians are granted equal rights and justice, regardless of the corruption of the PA, I will not support the Israeli government. Palestinians live in horror and fear, weather it's Gaza or the West Bank. Hundreds and Thousands of innocent Palestinians have fallen, and saying this does not disregard the innocent Jewish and Israeli souls killed by cruel terrorist organisations on the other side. But in this situation, it is clear, there is an oppressor and an oppressed.
Regardless of Religion, Culture, History, we are all equal and we all deserve to live in the Nation of Palestine/Israel in peace.
But do remember that the desert you are speaking of was never empty, you can go as far back in time as you like, but that was never the case.
All my love and respect
it wasnt empty....
Old Palestine was a paradise
Isesal rhodesia apartheid south Africa all the same all criminals. May Isreal find the same fate as rhodesia
you guys are confusing all of us
What kind of propaganda is this smh. Crazy part is this was a a paid ad. It’s in clear sight.
The Arabs conquered Palestine in the 7th century, and for 1400 years, the land was under Islamic rule. Why shouldn’t another group be able to take it from you, just as you took it from the Byzantines? During the Islamic expansion, would you consider that colonialism, occupation, or even genocide? That land belonged to someone else before. Today, there are 22 Arab states. Are all these people truly Arabs? Why do all these Muslim converts speak Arabic? Was Arabic and Islam forced upon them?
Scholars do describe that a major factor leading to Arab 1948 displacement of the Arab Palestinians was violence directed to Arab Palestinians or the threat of violence to Arab Palestinians from Jewish Palestinians. It is also true that prior to 1948, there were episodes of violence initiated by both sides against the other side. Also, not mentioned is that many Arab Palestinians in 1948 or their recent ancestors were migrants to the Palestinian region from other Arab regions that today correspond to other neighboring Arab nations. Essentially many 20th century Palestinian residents, were migrants to this region, more Arab immigrants in the early 20th century and more Jewish immigrants in the later 20th century. The misinformed who ignore the complex history of the region and view their side as merely victims leads to the belief that any compromise should never occur, a view that leads to unending conflict and misery for many.
So far we can see two numbers/estimates:
1) 700,000 Arabs left Palestine in 1948.
2) "Tens of thousands" were forced to leave by Israelis (during a war of 7 armies vs one army).
So we could safely assume that 70-80% of Arabs left due to Arab leaders of neighboring countries told them so.
FYI search UA-cam video titled "Stolen Palestinian Land? An Arab Israeli Responds" where he tells the story of his grand-dad who refused the request by Arab leaders to leave and they are still living in their own old house, Israelis didn't force him to leave. Kinda proves the point that the displacement was based on hostility of the population, not their ethnicity.
The Muslim countries invaded in May 1948… Israel was raiding & ethnically cleansing months before back to 1947 & 1945.
The Deir Yassin Village massacre where Palestinian children & families were burnt alive by the Irgun & Lehi happened in April 1948 before the Muslim countries invaded.
Please stop just lying. Just tell the truth.
If you're curious, we have videos about all of those topics, going back to before 1948:
What is Deir Yassin and the Nakba? ua-cam.com/video/ezAsaKzQQtE/v-deo.html
Was Zionism a Form of Colonialism? ua-cam.com/video/HkpAFhdPcVM/v-deo.html
1948: 2 State Solution? ua-cam.com/video/nq-emTGIgaI/v-deo.html
Did Israel Expel Palestinians? ua-cam.com/video/jB6IhmHYzWs/v-deo.html
Let us know if you want more recommendations. We've made dozens of videos talking about the history of this conflict - unpacking everything you mentioned, and a lot more. I encourage you to check them out and understand more of the context and realities of this terrible conflict.
@@UNPACKED why leave out all the Lehi, Irgun & Stern Gang terrorist attacks before in your videos in Nov 29? You literally frame all violence as Arabs attacking after they rejected the Nov 29 1947 plan (which people are allowed to disagree without being genocided).
You forget the King David Bombing a year before? Or in 1947 the Israeli terrorists mailing bombs to Truman? Or maybe 10 days before during the Shubaki family assassination? Or maybe the 100+ terrorist attacks by the Israel groups (whose leader was elected prime minister in the 80’s) prior?
I believe in Israel’s right to exist & I believe…. You “shouldn’t negotiate with terrorists”… so let’s not play revisionism & lie like Israel wasn’t the original terrorists. We aren’t stupid guys.
And like I said… I believe in Israel’s right to exist… me being critical of the US’s horrible past with slavery doesn’t mean I hate the US. But we don’t lie about our horrible past in the US. Own up to the horror Israel committed & still is. That’s justice…
Thanks for your honest response @tyal12416
We do have a video about Haganah, Irgun and Lechi: ua-cam.com/video/adsPqcpEg0o/v-deo.html The truth is it was a messy period, especially once it become a war, and if you watched our video above about Deir Yasin, you'll see that we don't deny or shy away from it, and neither does Israel. You also need to learn about the stories beforehand - including the Hebron Massacre of 1929 ua-cam.com/video/c3MO7dJpsdI/v-deo.html It's hard to define exactly when this conflict started - but probably some point then or during the British colonialist mandate.
But the point isn't to rehash and fixate on who fired first - peace is about learning to move past that, to compromise, to forgive, and to try and build a better future. If you watch our videos about peace efforts, Israel has tried that many times - starting from its declaration of independence, to its peace treaties with its enemies Egypt and Jordan, to its dozens of peace efforts with the Palestinians, some of which partially succeeded but many of which tragically failed or were tragically rejected.
Have Israelis & Palestinians Ever Made Peace?ua-cam.com/video/5SIAW4cX62I/v-deo.html
Can the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict be Solved? ua-cam.com/video/1kYWII25cxM/v-deo.html
Please keep pushing for justice, for truth, and for education - that's what we try to do as well!
@@UNPACKED it wasn’t a war man… nor it messy… this is just revisionism & dishonest.
Maybe it was months after all of the attacks but for the months after the partition plan, it was a genocide. There was no Palestinian army in 1947 when they were erased from Israel (months before the 5 countries declared war).
They didn’t have tanks, arms or even an army. The Lehi, etc went town to town raping, burning & killing Palestinians like Hamas did (which is horrific). It would be dishonest to frame American slavery as a war against the blacks. It was oppression & genocide.
As I keep saying, just be honest… public opinion is swaying because people are delivered both viewpoints & not just gatekeeper media. When you weigh in both sides, the things & framings you are saying are just not true & most people see it. Saying it was “messy” isn’t going to help.
Like I said, it wasn’t easy in America integrating our society & as a son of white mother who was on the oppressive side of history & a black father who was on the side of the oppressed side… progress can happen. Is it easy? No. Is it peaceful? No. But is it right? Yes. Israel deserves better leaders cause it is a great country on a great foundation.
"it wasn’t a war man… nor it messy…" - umm, you're literally describing a messy war. In 1947 there was no Palestinian army because there was no Palestinian state. There was also no Israeli army because there was no Israeli state. That's why it's called a civil war, as they were both populations under British colonial rule. And then starting in May 1948, actual Arab with actual armies invaded. And Israel still won 🤷
In terms of Israeli leaders, we think they've actually had some great ones, including ones who have compromised (or tried to compromise for peace and progress). We have plenty of videos about that on our channel, like this one: ua-cam.com/video/1kYWII25cxM/v-deo.html
Ironic she talks about ethnic cleansing when regarding this event… it’s almost comical
Nearly one million Jews ethnically cleansed from the Arab world and they still won't admit it today, let alone recompensate for it.
@@j-manmarkus7591 Considering the vast networks of Israeli spies within Arab societies it was undoubtedly at the very least somewhat Israel's fault. Israel would even collaborate with literal Nazis against Arab countries using Egyptian, Iraqi, and Syrian Jews as spies. Of course mistrust is going to come as a result of such matters. Full expulsion was not beneficial toward the Arab countries but it was definitely for Israel, it was clear Israel completed a goal it was aiming for.
@@moonori4595 That's b.s. The blame for the nearly one million Jews expelled from the Arab world falls all on the Arabs and Islamic Jew hatred. It's also painfully true that the Arabs in the holy land before Israel were actually siding with the Nazis to murder Jews. Look up the grand mufti of jerusalem Hussein. He was a friend of Hitler's and help raised Muslim Nazi battalion for him and start a Holocaust in Israel. Sickening. Nice try buy no cigar.
Also where was the Democracy? Why were no Arab citizens asked about a partition?
Israelis used Fascism to create fake international "agreements" that no Arab got to vote or have a say on Democratically.
@@ruskyalmond1977 Actually, they were, but the rest of the Arab world told those Arabs to flee, and after they attacked the Jews and killed them all, they could return to their homes, which of course never happened.
It was Abraham and Sarah who expelled Haggar and Ismael.
The girl whose family walked on foot to Isreal seems well intentioned but the idea that "Jews would have had no place to go" is absolutely ridiculous when they were fleeing retaliation for what Jews were doing to the Palestinians. If the Palestinians had not been forced out of their homes, there would have no retaliation and her family would not have had to flee.
I'm not denying that the family could have faced anti semitism for other reasons, but her comment is totally absurd given the context.
Who said they wouldn't do that eventually? Look at how Chrisitans are treated in Muslim countries.
This video contradicts itself. You said that Jewish people were relocated to Palestine and this was only after the emergence of the new Jewish country. So you admit that there was a plan to expel Palestinians out of their land and relocate Jews in place of those immigrants. And this by itself means that the first invasion was by the Israelis' not the by Arabs who tried to defend the stolen land.
@HASHIM MOHAMMAD ,MD
I suggest you to listen to the video again . The Jewish people were already in the area before the creation of Israel . They were there even before the WW1 .
There was no plan to expel Palestinians because there were no Palestinians .
Palestinians is an invent of the PLO in 1964 , before that they were arabs like any other arab.
The arab countries declared the war in 1948 and not before , so I don't know what are you talking about the first invasion of the Israelis and the arabs trying to defend the stolen land ?
You are confused .
Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian jews were living in the Mandate of Palestine, all were carrying a Palestinian passport. This was the case until the land was occupied by the extreme zionists.
I hear a lot about open borders. Jews had been moving to Palestine for decades.
Why not tell how the Grand Mufti of Egypt told all Palestinians to leave. Because 5 arab armies were about to attack Israel. The arabs left of their own free will.
This is a lie, first of all. Secondly, it don't matter how they left. The problem is Isnotreal did not allow them to come back ignoring the UN law (Palestinian have the right to return), while any American or Eropean Jew has the right to get Isnotrealy citizenship on the spot due to their religion. That is the definition of Ethnic cleansing and settler colonial project and apartheid.
People of the world has woken up and we don't accept lies anymore!
“In 1948 Israel’s Jews were forced to fight for survival” opening line. What a joke