@Timothy Harned , time travel is only confusing if it’s from Toyotaro’s DBS manga series, or if it’s entertainment made in the West that doesn’t use multiverse theory form of time travel.
If I could literally go back in time, I would raise baby Hitler in an awesome jewish fam (my fam). It's wrong to kill him because a big part of who he becomes is where he grew up. You take away the nurture, you can save lives and not have to kill him
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr not really. you can do time travel not confusing without using multiverse theory. Just have time travelers be outside of time and not affected by time. This way they can edit the time line anyway they want without affecting themselves thus erasing all paradoxes. For added bonus just say that time "fixes" itself by saying the "futures" you "deleted" never happened and never existed anymore. They are deleted. Also paradoxes is such a misused term because all it means is a problem we don't know the answer to. so we can make up whatever we wont as solution and thus getting rid of "paradox" problems. example: the if i killed my grandfather will i cease to exist and thus did not kill my grandfather so in essence i can never kill my grandfather. with my theory you can. You kill him and then your whole life is erased but since you are outside of time you still exist but the timeline has no mention of you whatsoever you in essence are nonexistent anymore in the timeline. and the timeline fixes itself to have never have had you. So all your interactions are replaced with the ones where you did not do those things. In essence this is similar to multiverse but with only one timeline and an infinite. Our choices do NOT make new worlds they just change the one here. So if we can control those choices we don't create new worlds we just "Edit" the existing one. And since we are out of time we are not affected by these changes.
“None of this sounds like the will of wise benevolent beings, sounds like the whims of a madman or a conqueror or something” Little does he know, everything he said is right
"Movie" is just an abbreviation of moving picture, so he'd probably just see that as informal and use the full term out of principle. Seems fitting for his character.
Dude he was in 21st century for 12 years. I mean hes not a tech ignorant. He knows whats a movie is and there was movies in his own 20th century times as well
Captain America- “This has got to be the most pointless trial ever!” Pope Stephen VI, who literally put the body of a dead Pope on trial- “Hold my beer”
@air Except he doesn't. He is an anti-hero and completely insane but even he has standards. He'll never kill a child, no matter who they turn out to be in the future.
You are not only able to allow this as canon but with how (SPOILERS FOR THE END OF LOKI SEASON 1, even though there are some hints of the ultimate ending in this skit the ultimate twist, and set up for later projects was still left untouched.) ; ; ; sporadic Nexus Events can prove to be basically any course of events one can imagine is now canon, and that goes for all of the fanfictions that have been written. TL;dr: Disney-Marvel has opened Pandora's Box and there's nothing they can do about it, even if they wanted to.
@@jacktheflash8478 I thought it already existed but only the ones were no nexus events happen (like old man loki) and the tva was just preventing from an infinite amount of universes being unleashed.
I like how this skit is sort of a prequel to the one where Steve is trying not to tell Peggy about all the future incidents. The reason he says nothing about the future is him trying not to make a nexus event as per his agreement with the TVA and he’s also covering up everything he knows with the excuse he came up with in that video. You guys are playing 4d chess out here.
It's a good thing you warned the people in the comments that you would be dumping out SPOILERS so that nobody ACCIDENTALLY got the plot ruined for them....😑
@@Maestoso28 It popped up in my feed, THAT'S why I'm watching it! Many other channels are able to put a spoiler warning ⚠️ on their content. It literally only takes like a couple of seconds to splice in a frame that says SPOILERS AHEAD but i guess that would be too professional for this hack of a channel...... @Hans Ollo And other parody channels are able to do quite a lot without giving away 100% of the plot. Robot Chicken is a PERFECT example of this. I guess that just goes to show just how sub par this channel really is. SPOILER ALERT! This channel is so sub par it's at rock bottom. See how easy that was? Now any snowflakes that would get their panties in a wad if that was spoiled for them have the option to stop reading my response before it spoiled the crown gem of the ENTIRE franchise. 🤯
@@HandlelessTML *loki is about to be killed by Kangs people. Suddenly, an engine roars. Mobius flies from a waterfall above them on a jet ski, just like the one in the magazine.* Mobius: WOW Loki: What in all the nine realms… *mobius lands the jet ski on top of the henchman, crushing them instantly.* The episode ends. A title card appears. From the makes of John Wick. It’s a crossover. We get gun-fu alongside jet-ski-fu. Don’t get too attached. These two mfers are killing anything and everything that ain’t dog or jet ski.
It would be hilarious if Steve’s argument caused the TVA to give up and thus allow the multiverse to exist, thus allowing sorcerers to exist and give Roger’s evidence to make the argument, thus causing a stable time loop.
@@theggamer2824 Yes and no. Yes, the character himself does come back as different versions, but Chris Evans isn’t coming back to voice him. Instead it’s Josh Keaton, who does a pretty damn good impression.
Actually, I can answer Steve's question. The manner in which the time line is designed isn't bound by any morality. It's bound by what happens next, what version of time ultimately gives rise to how it ends. Good and Bad things happen, the TVA isn't pruning "bad" things or keeping "good" things. They are pruning things that result in a sequence of events that's result in certain specific outcomes. Preventing Hitler's rise to power or subsequently bringing people back isn't part of the time line that didn't have the outcome they are trying to avoid, thus allowing those events to occur results in a high possibility of said outcome occuring. in other words the TVA knows what version of the timeline DOESN'T result in a multiversal war, and thus keeping the time line as close to that version is what they are trying to do. they may not know what DOES screw the pooch, they only know what DOESN'T. However his criticism of the TVA is correct, they are operating on incomplete information, they are told to prune timelines but are not told why, only that it falls outside of a defined parameter, which in that context, seems arbitrary. This I would say is one of the major faults of the TVA. And as Kang said to the Loki's, Go back and tell the workforce who they are and _why_ they do what they do.
But even then, since the multiverse is infinite, there is a timeline they could have chose where Hitler fails and the multiversal war still doesn't occur
Hey one question What is the nexus event for lady Loki? I don't remember heard why the TVA erase their time line. A girl told in a video (her channel is sort of feminist channel) that her nexus event was being a woman. But another channel says that her nexus event was that she would be a valkire in the future. The channel say that in the scene that she is a girl you can see her playing with a ship that is a valkire so yeah her nexus evet was not being a bad person instead she would be a good person, a Warrior for asgard. So the TVA decided to erase their time line.
Simple reason why hitler shouldn't be killed as child in MCU, because hitler is real person who existed in real world. Whereas MCU is fiction and they can't make big changes to big real world events. They can bend and use real world mythos in MCU like in Thor and eternal movies, but they can't make big changes in that situation, like killing Hitler as baby. It contradicts with real world and it is not morally good idea and it will cause big controversy to MCU and Disney.
I love how this sketch leads into the sketch they made about cap acting oblivious to and not revealing anything about the future to peggy , damn well done you guys !!
Cap: “Dr.Strange and the other wizards draw their power from the multiverse” Judge: “those are parallel dimensions, not parallel universes” Cap: *throwing his hands in the air* “DOES IT MATTER?!”
*Looks at the nerds* When it comes to dimensions it’s actually a layer of the reality that is inside the current universe in. Why do you think there are multiple Hells in the multiverse
Oh no a big bad guy with infinity stones, too bad the TVA doesn't have some of them lying around, and can make people move at 16X slower speed while their mind stays the same forcing pain to be drawn out over long periods of time, or a 1 shot stick that teleports people to the end of time. Really the stuff the TVA have make them so op nothing has any steaks.
Strange in classic days can summon and draw power abstract entities like Eternity, Order, and Chaos to help him out and Eternity is a multiverse being just below the living Tribunal.
the multiverse has always existed within the Sacred Timeline. The Sacred Timeline may seem like a singular line, but when zoomed in we all saw those many lines of strands, meaning yes, multiple universes / alternate realities DO exist within the Sacred Timeline. the Sacred Timeline exists as a way to prevent other Kang variants from rising to power, so branching realities from the Sacred Timeline are things that "aren't predicted / according to HWR's plans, and could lead to Kang variants taking over", which is why they get pruned. that's how i think it works. which means yes, Dr Strange does pull power from the multiverse within the Sacred Timeline.
Seeing Cap return all the time variant artifacts would have made an interesting film in itself. Him going to Asgard with Thor's hammer in hand to meet Thor's dead mother- bringing the scepter with the mind stone to hydra posing as Shield- meeting the original sorcerer supreme in New York- resetting the power stone in that grid defense on that desolate alien world- and of course...catching up with an old nemesis at his new reform job post- before heading back to his time to see Stark's parents and Peggy. As well as maybe Hank Pym.
“The timekeepers work in mysterious ways.” That is BS for she has no idea but I follow their ways. And what about a movie called “Spider-Man into the spider-verse.”
@@stevelucky7579 , then just say I don’t know instead of making up bullshit speeches like saying so and so works in mysterious ways. For example if a person doesn’t know if piracy is the best form of government structure they wouldn’t say they’re a mysterious government structure that works in mysterious ways, and they’d just they don’t know objectively if piracy is the best solution for humans to always live throughout human history to now.
TVA: "Why exactly would you meddle with the sacred timeline?" Steve: "To put back the Stones where they belong." TVA: "Really?" Steve: "Okay no, I lied. I just felt guilty about getting with my girlfriend's niece almost directly after Peggy died. So i went back in time to get with Peggy and forget about Sharon." TVA Judge: "Jesus Christ just let the poor guy go. It ain't his fault, it was his Star-Spangled D."
LOL!!! I totally forgot about that in Civil War right? That was hilarious (and if you guys watched How Avengers Endgame should’ve ended he said that to Peggy when Steve saw her)
You could argue that the multiverse, like the comics and other Marvel tv shows/movies worlds, still existed but the TVA simply disconnected themselves from the rest of the multiverse. Like a piece of acorn separated from a massive tree and planted somewhere else. But instead of growing and creating branches, the TVA been cutting down the branches to keep it as one long tree. But because of Loki, the tree is growing once more and could tangle with the previous tree.
I mean, just to be that guy, they get their magic from extra dimensional energy, which is different, somehow, dimensions instead of universes... I guess.
Exactly. Like what the Ancient One said. The Dark Realm is a dimension outside of time and space. While multiverse exist in its own scape of "Dimension", things like Hell, thr Dark Realm, or the Quantum realm also have exists in each of its own dimensions independent of the multiverse.
@@thebronzedragon1 yeah I sort of imagine them as the same way heaven and hell (hifl) work in dragon ball, where they are outright part of the structure of each individual universe.
There's or universes, realities and dimmensions(according to theories, made even more confusing based on language and use of each word) Here is my attempt to make it simple. Like time travel in movies, it's never simple. A forest- the soil is the start of each TYPE of alpa universe (the one where their laws of physics and understanding are different. Think of it as different breeds of trees but we will focus on our tree from here) The roots are the base with its "how it works" mechanics established by the type of universe, allowing dimensions, forming the trunk and our concept of spacetime. Then it's the branches of time-line we all know and are still bound to the rules of the tree. Those branches are also called universes because they A BRANCH of the same universe.
The MCU have said that alternate timelines are alternate universes, which is not true. For DC and other media alternate timeline, alternate universe, and dimensions are 3 different things.
@@SIS3W3N you could create one of those Norwegian SlowTV broadcasts that go for several hours. Instead of a Yule Log you could have - Yule Log and Hitler on a Spit.
And that is the Steve that ends up stress eating to not change the timeline, he was trying to keep his deal with the TVA, even if he looks different in that
Well there no powers in the TVA so they should be no problem. With that said 2018 should be a nightmare considering it’s a 50% chance the wrong person didn’t get snapped
I always took the TVA's prupose as they just avoiding branching on that specific universe, not really that they prevented the multiverse from happening. Considering that the MCU is part of the multiverse already, that would make more sense.
I think Immortus braided the entire multiverse into one giant rope with an infinite number of strands, with each strand representing one universe. The rope, the Sacred Timeline, represents Immortus eventually being born and taking over the Multiverse thus preventing another Kang the Conqueror and trying start another Multiversal war. Any event that would to Immortus not being born like killing Hitler causes a branching timeline thus TVA must stop anybody from killing Hitler.
Or the multiverse that does exist is just formed from nexus events that happened in the beginning of existence and have therefore drifted away from the sacred timeline enough to not cause a multiversal war
DC has a multiverse branch, Marvel has one, as well. It's funny when they say that whatever universe we are watching is the "last one left" even though the audience exists and is obviously not part of it.
@@KarmasAB123 that's not how cinematic universes work. For example, you have MCU | X men movies | Fantastic four movies, but the MCU has X men characters like pietro and wanda, deadpool is an extension of that, while some staf members seem to think that he's part of the x men movies verse, well.... he isn't, the one from the x men movies and the one from the deadpool movies are clearly totally different characters.
That was brilliant. Especially considering that the existing Avengers: Endgame finish, him going back to Peggy, was borderline character assassination without something like this happening.
I wouldn't call it character assassination, it was more like retirement, or him (dis)honorably discharging himself. Alternatively; He saw that he didn't need to be there and him being there would cause problems, because technically still a fugitive.
@@tetragaming6332 He let his best friend be tortured and brainwashed, his other friend be killed by said best friend, his sexy red ginger friend be brainwashed and become a child soldier, an uncountable amount of people die (WW2, Loki, Ultron, Thanos) and lastly, let his best frienemy die (Tony), all to get back with the chick we know, in canon and before the movie, had moved on and had told him to do so as well. Not to mention she was magically still young looking 20 years after he has disappeared (since it was the 60`s or 70`s, can't remember) That wasn't just character assassination that was graphic torture AND assassination.
@@Artemisarrowzz we never see who she ended up with, so for all we know that's a closed loop. And once again, messing up those events could destroy the future. Think about how many people could be unmade if Steve 'fixes' all the world's problems, he could make a future where Thanos lives and humanity doesn't. If he stops world war 2, the nuke isn't made and Iron man won't have a missile to throw through that portal in 2012 and wipe out a lot of Thanos's fleet. Letting those people get hurt and die saves an unknowable trillions more, as a soldier Steve would understand .
Cap could have added, "I make a motion to dismiss these proceedings, as the facts of the case and the standing of the TVA to adjudicate it are in dispute. I am not in possession of evidence that the Timekeepers in fact exist, or what their jurisdiction is to control all timelines."
Yeah, I gotta be "that guy". Most magic users, with the caveat of those that exist in all realities simultaneously, pull their power from different dimensions that are all part of the same universe. Thus, it is entirely within reason that there could be a singular timeline or that the multiverse does exist but only a very small deviation is allowed.
@@TheWarpZone Ok,how about this - By using the TVA,Kang is trying to prevent the existence of universes in which his variants exist. Any other universes where his variants DON'T exist are fine by him.
@@TheWarpZone does Steve even know if he killed baby Hitler, the world he came from stays the same no matter what he does, even If he prevented Hitler from growing up, everyone in Steve's world still knew a man* named Hitler
@@blazingblue_3039 or how about this: it's just writers that don't have any consideration for what the MCU did before and are just pulling stuff out of their ass in order to make their bullsjhit happen.
@@souventudubanned DS's multiverse isn't a multiverse, more like a set of magical dimensions. DS only got the ability to see the true multiverse when he got the time stone.
From what I think Marvel has tried to explain, the "Multiverse" that Dr.Strange gets the magic from are actually considered realms, pockets of reality that kinda just are there, don't really affect anything just kinda there in their own little bubbles Dormammu lives in a realm where time does not exist... meaning there is no timeline, also the Quantum Realm where time acts differently.
@@tavernburner3066 Its hard to break the canon when they already had it planned out. Dormammu lives outside of time, meaning he does not exist in the timeline, Strange used the Time Stone in the eye to create a pocket of time in a realm without time, plus the other ability the Mirror Dimension, is more of a construct then a universe, seeing its able to fold in on itself. Then there is the Quantum realm, a realm where time acts differently which is how they explain why they could time travel though it. One of Dormammu's abilities is Dimensional teleportation, not Universal teleportation. Dimensional are a completely different wonky thing separate from the Universal Timeline. Heaven and Hell are considered Dimensions in some variations of the lore, even in games dimensions are considered realms outside the normal plain of existence. The only Multiversal thing Doctor Strange has done, is see multiple futures, which could just be written off as just a nexus event situation, because him saying there was only one universe in which they won, was likely a reference to the timeline which He who remains was creating, it was pre-decided it would happen. Well there is also the Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness, which is likely taking place during the Loki series seeing the timelines unraveling.
Yes indeed, that's exactly what I thought while watching this video. The multiverse evoked in Dr. Strange has nothing to do with the one evoked in Loki. In Dr. Strange it's more of a mystical multiverse with different mystical dimensions that could be compared to heaven and hell, and not parallel realities of the same universe duplicated ad infinitum with some variations as it is in Loki.
@@ДмитрийЗеленский-ж7х it was very intentional. i'm pretty sure they very concenpt of the multiverse is for shit to go out of wack. iF it son purpose,and gives us good stories then fine BUT!!!!! if they are going to use this as a means to just insert SJW crap into it *cough* falcon winter soldier. then they can keep it. comin from one black comic fan to another comic fan. steve rodgers is captian America. PERIOD. them giving peggy the super soldier stuff and giving her her OWN NAME!!!? perfectly okay in my book.
"What about the timeline where Thanos jumps to a future where he's already been killed, and then GETS KILLED before he ever had a chance to gather the stones and wipe out half of the universe and... get killed? Doesn't that drop the Sacred Timeline into a causality loop? Unless of course, there's already a multiverse in play?"
Dr. Strange: "If I warn Tony about what I want to happen, then it might not happen." Me: "So choice - free will - and causality exist?" Dr. Strange: "Um... yes?" Me: "Then the Butterfly Effect - Chaos Theory - must _also_ exist. Dr. Strange: "Wait..." Me: "Meaning there would be INFINITE possible timelines/dimensions/realities/etc. in play at any given time: one for each infinitesimally small variation in human behavior, weather patterns, the movements of animals, etc.. Dr. Strange: "I don't -" Me: "So there's no way in hell you could possibly bring about one desired timeline out of the 14,000,000+ timelines you watched - let alone the ONLY one that succeeds, because any little thing could drastically alter the flow of existence and prevent your desired result from ever happening." Dr. Strange: "Please stop." Me: "Like, if a rat gets eaten by a falcon or caught in a trap and _doesn't_ errantly step on a button, then Tony never gets the chance to have to make the choice you want him to make." Dr. Strange: "But-" Me: "Not to mention, you have the Time Stone. Just time loop Thanos like you did to Dormammu. If you were willing to face an eternity to save the world from Dormammu, why aren't you willing to do the same thing to save THE UNIVERSE from Thanos?"
Problem with that last part is that Dormammu could perceive that he was trapped in a time loop and negotiate to end it while Thanos would never realize that and just keep killing Strange forever.
Yes and no. I think the Infinity Gauntlet allowed Thanos to break the rules without technically violating the Sacred Timeline. What makes the ST sacred isn't that it's what the Timekeepers (or whoever) decreed it, it's that its the only one. Nexus occur because a single variant interacts with otherwise non-variant causality. But The Gauntlet changes everything all at once, so there's no conflict between variant and non. No conflict, no nexus event. With no nexus event, the Timeline remains Sacred, despite being altered so comprehensively. In other words, without realizing it, Thanos rules-lawyered the TVA into permitting time-travel powered xenocide. In doing so, he bound the Timekeepers with their own system, forcing them to work within that system to correct the problem. Hence establishing that the Avenger's re-assembling the Gauntlet was canon to the ST.
I don't think Thanks got killed. I think Tony just returned him and his army to where they are supposed to be, otherwise thered be a hell of a paradox there haha.
Great sketch! Here's the simplest explanation: Only timelines that can lead to the creation of a KANG are pruned. He who remains (Nice Kang), defeated all other timeline Kangs during the multiversal war. A "Nexus Event" means: an occurrence that leads to a timeline that can spawn a Kang. The "Sacred Timeline" is not a single timeline, but multiple timelines braided together; they remain because they don't lead to Kangs. The term "Sacred timeline" is misleading, it should be called "Sacred Braid".
I never thought of it this way, but, whether it's how they mean for it to be or not, it makes sense. If He Who Remains was trying to prevent himself from becoming Kang, his sole purpose would be to find the best possible timeline in which he doesn't become Kang and preserve it. That said, there are still many different variables to take into account, so I'm not sure if that's the only criterion that matters, but it's an intriguing thought.
I love how Deadpool was just waiting for them to leave so he could perform his own scene of visiting baby Hitler. However, Deadpool just changes his diaper, and says he’ll bring Cable.
Spider-man variants must be the most annoying variants for the TVA to deal with. Considering they are connected to the Web of Life and Destiny. Aka the very thing that holds the multiverse together.
@@thetaskmaster717 It's a multiversal structure introduced in the comic book spiderverse that connects and allows sipder avatars(those chosen to gain certain spider powers by the great weaver) to travel throughout the multiverse freely amongst other things.
The MCU was basically a braided connected rope. Multiple universes woven together that all went toward the same general direction, HWR being the only Kang variant. Sometimes it would slightly unravel, leading to that strand needing to be pruned, ie, burned off so it wouldn't further go. After Loki, all the strands are fraying and interacting in ways they shouldn't.
yeah, otherwise the TVA would have pruned Silvie way earlier. There's probably a varient of lady loki who still invades earth and ends up getting killed by thanos. they just care about character development.
4:44 Well, just a bit of Marvel nerding here, but the Multiverse does exist even within the Sacred Timeline. The Sacred Timeline is a path that infinite universes have to take. They just can't allow a universe to branch of from that path.
If you think about it, there have been two timelines all along. See, when Cap went back in time and stayed with Peggy, he created a new timeline. The fact that he was sitting on that bench waiting for them shows that he has been there all along, which means the MCU takes place in a different timeline. The TVA is full of plot holes.
This is honestly one of the best edited and produced video warp zone has ever made. And they got the whole courtroom too. These guys are good at making these videos
Just though of something; the Red guardian could have fought Captain America, because Steve was back in time, while another one was in the ice meaning if our Steve Rogers suit up as Captain America to help out for whatever reason, the red guardian would’ve thought him
Since the Warp Zone is fairly popular, especially the Steve Rogers and MCU bits they do, I would love a small part of this Captain America shows up as a Variant in a future show/movie.
atleast the Timelords in doctor who have a more viable hand wave for allowing hitler it's that they have a literal Extra sense of what historical events they can change and which they can't
@@ProjektTaku It objectively wasnt. You may have enjoyed it but that doesn't change the fact that is was badly written, badly executed and was riddled with plot holes. And I guess my standards are just higher than yours.
I am asssuming its same logic like Dr Strange 14 000 000 failed outcomes. It does not make any sense they were not able to stop Thanos more than once especially when Thor apparently did not aim for milion times for head xD. Also whole World War 2 argument its funny from Steve anyway, because without World War 2 he would never be hero in the first place. Which I assume was the He who remains intention creating villain who gaves rise to heroes, just like Loki´s existence was presumably only here to help Avengers reach their potential. And besides juding how much troll was He who remains in the last episode, he is definetly type of person who would let holocaust happen simply because he was borde. But thats whole other discussion anyway.
Actually I think Strange draws power from the REAL multiverse, an infinite amount of SEPARATE timelines. Technically what they call the multiverse in Loki is just a single universe with infinite branching timelines.
Was he really talking about alternate realities or what could have been, or was he talking about the fabric of reality or what created the universe or something.
Doctor Strange pulls in magic from different universes. While Loki is one universe with multiple timelines. DC knows the difference between alternate timeline and alternate universe.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 I think the TVA was also pruning other universe timelines tho. As the timeline is supposed to unfold how it did then it would not makes sense for the variants to actually look diffrent now wouldn't it, unless those that look diffrent are not from the same universe. Quite frankly Gator Loki would be pruned for just being a gator, as his reasoning for being pruned was eating the wrong cat. So unless we are to believe Loki has eaten a cat at some point then they have not come from a alternate timeline that branched off the sacred timeline but a timeline that branched off another universes timeline. Same goes for boastful Loki wouldn't he be pruned for simply obtaining one infinity stone not 6, or classic Loki for living alone instead of dying. This would explain why the stones don't work in the TVA but they do within the Dark dimension and other timelines. The TVA sits outside of the Mulitverse and not simply within a diffrent dimension within the universe like the dark dimension does. This would explain the lack of powers as well for everyone within it. The sacred timelines could be sacred because they are engineered to keep the mulitverse from colliding into each other like HWR warned about, so they prune any timeline from the Mulitverse that would lead into that meeting of the Kangs that started it all.
Doesn't this mean they pruned the version of Captain America who got his ass kicked by his future self? I mean, Loki got in trouble due to their meddling.
technically that is an alternate timeline, but it's not as much of a difference that they need to prune it. Similar to how they didn't prune Silvie the day she was born. They were alright with Loki being a woman as long as that woman still ruined Thor's inauguration, tried to conquer Asgard and Earth, and ended up getting killed by Thanos. It's similiar to the alternate Pompei Timeline that Loki creates.
This was kind of brilliant. It does a good job of explaining the whole thing with Cap at the end of Endgame... All while being hilarious. This (or a "variant" of it) should be canonized.
Rhodey: "What if we go back in time, find Baby Thanos, and, y'know....."
Steve: *takes notes*
WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
@Timothy Harned , time travel is only confusing if it’s from Toyotaro’s DBS manga series, or if it’s entertainment made in the West that doesn’t use multiverse theory form of time travel.
I mean some form of avengers did exactly that.
It's one of those 14 million times.
If I could literally go back in time, I would raise baby Hitler in an awesome jewish fam (my fam). It's wrong to kill him because a big part of who he becomes is where he grew up. You take away the nurture, you can save lives and not have to kill him
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr not really. you can do time travel not confusing without using multiverse theory. Just have time travelers be outside of time and not affected by time. This way they can edit the time line anyway they want without affecting themselves thus erasing all paradoxes. For added bonus just say that time "fixes" itself by saying the "futures" you "deleted" never happened and never existed anymore. They are deleted. Also paradoxes is such a misused term because all it means is a problem we don't know the answer to. so we can make up whatever we wont as solution and thus getting rid of "paradox" problems.
example: the if i killed my grandfather will i cease to exist and thus did not kill my grandfather so in essence i can never kill my grandfather.
with my theory you can. You kill him and then your whole life is erased but since you are outside of time you still exist but the timeline has no mention of you whatsoever you in essence are nonexistent anymore in the timeline. and the timeline fixes itself to have never have had you. So all your interactions are replaced with the ones where you did not do those things. In essence this is similar to multiverse but with only one timeline and an infinite. Our choices do NOT make new worlds they just change the one here. So if we can control those choices we don't create new worlds we just "Edit" the existing one. And since we are out of time we are not affected by these changes.
“None of this sounds like the will of wise benevolent beings, sounds like the whims of a madman or a conqueror or something”
Little does he know, everything he said is right
Yep, with "Good" Nathan/Immortus dead, "Evil" Nathan/Kang's on his way to conquer us all.
@@johnnygyro2295 "If you think I'm evil. Just wait till meet my varians!"
Why did I read this as soon as he was speaking it
He knows
@@bencebotye3904 yup, he’s born to conquer and be a madman
I 100% believe that Steve, no matter what he has seen, will call a film a "moving picture"
"Movie" is just an abbreviation of moving picture, so he'd probably just see that as informal and use the full term out of principle. Seems fitting for his character.
Well, you still call it a “film” even though we don’t actually use it anymore. 😅
Dude he was in 21st century for 12 years. I mean hes not a tech ignorant. He knows whats a movie is and there was movies in his own 20th century times as well
Captain America- “This has got to be the most pointless trial ever!”
Pope Stephen VI, who literally put the body of a dead Pope on trial- “Hold my beer”
Ah, A Fellow Graduate of The Sam O' Nella Academy
i've said it before and i'll say it again HS History needs to cover more of the crazy stuff like that
@@TheBigTopaz Actually i learned that from "Ask a Mortician"
That's kinda of a low bar.
Ahhhh another student of wtf 101
My favorite gag is when the guard almost accidentally prunes himself .
When?
@air dp is overrated
@@prabowotarantula524 this is totally out of context...
@air Except he doesn't. He is an anti-hero and completely insane but even he has standards. He'll never kill a child, no matter who they turn out to be in the future.
@@prabowotarantula524 don't watch him. He's underrated
This aged so good after Loki Season 2 lol
Yeah this is like one quick mention away from being Canon at this point.
it really, truly did
It was revealing as well, at first I was right how could work with the sacred timeline and then boom, right now it can!
Someone needs to edit that scene where Loki is running around trying new plans and walks into this court room, sighs, and walks back out.
FR i was like woah he got everything right
Cap sits down at a chair:
"So you just discovered that the TVA will inevitably fail and your mission in life is ultimately meaningless..."
"I understood that reference!"
@@GooseCrack I understood *that* reference!
@Orange Guy "even though I kind of dropped out of military school"
@@zman4002 and I understood THAT reference!
"So you just discovered that your existence is pointless and any achievement you might have is already preordained by some celestial space lizards..."
I accept this as canon just because it doesn’t contradict anything and it’s hilarious and makes sense.
You are not only able to allow this as canon but with how (SPOILERS FOR THE END OF LOKI SEASON 1, even though there are some hints of the ultimate ending in this skit the ultimate twist, and set up for later projects was still left untouched.)
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sporadic Nexus Events can prove to be basically any course of events one can imagine is now canon, and that goes for all of the fanfictions that have been written.
TL;dr: Disney-Marvel has opened Pandora's Box and there's nothing they can do about it, even if they wanted to.
Heck, it even makes even more sense in The Warp Zone canon as well. Remember their video on when Peggy was asking Steve about the future?
@@JustSomebody5 the multiverse already existed before the mcu though
Alaka
@@jacktheflash8478 I thought it already existed but only the ones were no nexus events happen (like old man loki) and the tva was just preventing from an infinite amount of universes being unleashed.
Bro he predicted the Future with Deadpool knowing the tva
I like how this skit is sort of a prequel to the one where Steve is trying not to tell Peggy about all the future incidents. The reason he says nothing about the future is him trying not to make a nexus event as per his agreement with the TVA and he’s also covering up everything he knows with the excuse he came up with in that video. You guys are playing 4d chess out here.
That and pointing out how broken and nonsensical the rules of Endgame's and Loki's time travel are.
It's a good thing you warned the people in the comments that you would be dumping out SPOILERS so that nobody ACCIDENTALLY got the plot ruined for them....😑
@@shadowninjarider374 why are you watching these videos about the mcu movies if you didn’t watch the mcu movies already?
@@shadowninjarider374
For real, it's a parody. You don't want Austin Powers before you watch James Bond.
@@Maestoso28
It popped up in my feed, THAT'S why I'm watching it! Many other channels are able to put a spoiler warning ⚠️ on their content. It literally only takes like a couple of seconds to splice in a frame that says SPOILERS AHEAD but i guess that would be too professional for this hack of a channel......
@Hans Ollo
And other parody channels are able to do quite a lot without giving away 100% of the plot. Robot Chicken is a PERFECT example of this. I guess that just goes to show just how sub par this channel really is. SPOILER ALERT! This channel is so sub par it's at rock bottom. See how easy that was? Now any snowflakes that would get their panties in a wad if that was spoiled for them have the option to stop reading my response before it spoiled the crown gem of the ENTIRE franchise. 🤯
Kang dancing is all I want in season 2. Also owen Wilson killing people with a jet ski.
And Owen Wilson says wow
@@JP2006JP “wOw I’m OwEn WiLsOn”
I’m cool with the jet ski but hold the murder 😂
@@HandlelessTML *loki is about to be killed by Kangs people. Suddenly, an engine roars. Mobius flies from a waterfall above them on a jet ski, just like the one in the magazine.*
Mobius: WOW
Loki: What in all the nine realms…
*mobius lands the jet ski on top of the henchman, crushing them instantly.*
The episode ends. A title card appears. From the makes of John Wick. It’s a crossover. We get gun-fu alongside jet-ski-fu. Don’t get too attached. These two mfers are killing anything and everything that ain’t dog or jet ski.
Weow weeeeeeeeeow
It would be hilarious if Steve’s argument caused the TVA to give up and thus allow the multiverse to exist, thus allowing sorcerers to exist and give Roger’s evidence to make the argument, thus causing a stable time loop.
“You will never see or hear from me again, unless… Disney needs a little box office boost.”
I anticipate it
Turns out, it didn't even need to be a Marvel movie
"Waaaooowww"
Spider-Man is gonna break box office records
Does the What If show count as Steve coming back?
@@theggamer2824 Yes and no. Yes, the character himself does come back as different versions, but Chris Evans isn’t coming back to voice him. Instead it’s Josh Keaton, who does a pretty damn good impression.
"I hate Mondays"
"Technically it is both always and never Mondays"
"Oh shit the fuck up Carl"
*From down the hall "Language!"
sorry for the grammar N4ZI thing, but "shit the fuck up"
@@ArkhamMaster. It's perfect whatcha mean??
@@TheDucksss shut
@@ArkhamMaster. o sorry for the grammar "NAZI" thing, but "NAZI"!
@@bhaveshs4167 That's just wrong
Actually, I can answer Steve's question. The manner in which the time line is designed isn't bound by any morality. It's bound by what happens next, what version of time ultimately gives rise to how it ends. Good and Bad things happen, the TVA isn't pruning "bad" things or keeping "good" things. They are pruning things that result in a sequence of events that's result in certain specific outcomes. Preventing Hitler's rise to power or subsequently bringing people back isn't part of the time line that didn't have the outcome they are trying to avoid, thus allowing those events to occur results in a high possibility of said outcome occuring. in other words the TVA knows what version of the timeline DOESN'T result in a multiversal war, and thus keeping the time line as close to that version is what they are trying to do. they may not know what DOES screw the pooch, they only know what DOESN'T. However his criticism of the TVA is correct, they are operating on incomplete information, they are told to prune timelines but are not told why, only that it falls outside of a defined parameter, which in that context, seems arbitrary. This I would say is one of the major faults of the TVA. And as Kang said to the Loki's, Go back and tell the workforce who they are and _why_ they do what they do.
Take my like and go away.
But even then, since the multiverse is infinite, there is a timeline they could have chose where Hitler fails and the multiversal war still doesn't occur
Sounds more like they're a bunch of psychopaths and I should be granted my own Omnitrix.
Hey one question
What is the nexus event for lady Loki?
I don't remember heard why the TVA erase their time line.
A girl told in a video (her channel is sort of feminist channel) that her nexus event was being a woman.
But another channel says that her nexus event was that she would be a valkire in the future. The channel say that in the scene that she is a girl you can see her playing with a ship that is a valkire so yeah her nexus evet was not being a bad person instead she would be a good person, a Warrior for asgard. So the TVA decided to erase their time line.
Simple reason why hitler shouldn't be killed as child in MCU, because hitler is real person who existed in real world. Whereas MCU is fiction and they can't make big changes to big real world events. They can bend and use real world mythos in MCU like in Thor and eternal movies, but they can't make big changes in that situation, like killing Hitler as baby. It contradicts with real world and it is not morally good idea and it will cause big controversy to MCU and Disney.
So that makes it official.
Dick Richards can talk his way out of anything.
Except Deadpool
lmao
Guess cap was the one exception in which someone was innocent on trial.
You mean Wilford Brimley’s friend?
I love how this sketch leads into the sketch they made about cap acting oblivious to and not revealing anything about the future to peggy , damn well done you guys !!
My thoughts exactly.
(packs mouth full of food)
Damn. The creative crew here did a successful and entertaining prequel: gotta admit, that’s damn impressive.
Cap: “Dr.Strange and the other wizards draw their power from the multiverse”
Judge: “those are parallel dimensions, not parallel universes”
Cap: *throwing his hands in the air* “DOES IT MATTER?!”
So you're saying every universe within the multiverse has its own separate mirror dimension?
@@ronnyshama worst.math.equation.ever. am i right?
@@ronnyshamaI guess mirrors of mirrors are just normal
@@ronnyshama or maybe all universes have their own section of the mirror dimension.
*Looks at the nerds*
When it comes to dimensions it’s actually a layer of the reality that is inside the current universe in. Why do you think there are multiple Hells in the multiverse
I feel bad for any TVA teams that had to deal with Thanos variants
It must have looked a lot like that one panel where Thanos got arrested by the NYPD, cuffed and booked and all...
Oh no a big bad guy with infinity stones, too bad the TVA doesn't have some of them lying around, and can make people move at 16X slower speed while their mind stays the same forcing pain to be drawn out over long periods of time, or a 1 shot stick that teleports people to the end of time.
Really the stuff the TVA have make them so op nothing has any steaks.
@@aidanmullard8508 Except somehow two frickin' Lokis. HOW?!
@@aidanmullard8508 could 100% defeate Thanos or I mean Thanos’
@@colbysteffens2976 thanoose
"They draw their power from the multiverse so you will fail." Shit....you just solved a major plot hole IN A COMEDY VIDEO!
meh, Dr Strange pulls his power from worlds like the dark dimension and heaven and hell. not really the same as alternate timelines.
More like pointed it out
Strange in classic days can summon and draw power abstract entities like Eternity, Order, and Chaos to help him out and Eternity is a multiverse being just below the living Tribunal.
the multiverse has always existed within the Sacred Timeline. The Sacred Timeline may seem like a singular line, but when zoomed in we all saw those many lines of strands, meaning yes, multiple universes / alternate realities DO exist within the Sacred Timeline. the Sacred Timeline exists as a way to prevent other Kang variants from rising to power, so branching realities from the Sacred Timeline are things that "aren't predicted / according to HWR's plans, and could lead to Kang variants taking over", which is why they get pruned. that's how i think it works. which means yes, Dr Strange does pull power from the multiverse within the Sacred Timeline.
It didn’t before until Loki or Scarlet Witch unlocked it, depends on whatever theory you go for
Seeing Cap return all the time variant artifacts would have made an interesting film in itself. Him going to Asgard with Thor's hammer in hand to meet Thor's dead mother- bringing the scepter with the mind stone to hydra posing as Shield- meeting the original sorcerer supreme in New York- resetting the power stone in that grid defense on that desolate alien world- and of course...catching up with an old nemesis at his new reform job post- before heading back to his time to see Stark's parents and Peggy. As well as maybe Hank Pym.
“Don’t create another nexus event.”
*struggles to not prevent Vietnam War, 9/11, 2008 market crash, etc.*
"OKAY BUT JUST LEMME SAVE CHAD AND BURN THOSE WUHAN BATS OKAY?!"
If you prevented any of those events, you never would've remembered those events therefore you never would've prevented said events.
@@awddfg Marvel: Don’t think too hard about it
I'll create as many Nexus events as I have to in order to give everyone the best possible timeline.
@@1nfinit3 TVA LADY tears up a bit while getting a mask: No.
Fun fact :- TVA only prunes timeline which have a possibility of bringing back Kang. (It was confirmed by the director of Loki)
It was pretty clear in the show as well that the problem was timelines that gave rise to evil variants of Kang
Wouldn't it make sense to kill Kang as a baby?
@@cunningsmile4166 it does, but it'll create a branch in timeline
@@cunningsmile4166 who reed richards and victor von doom?
@@cunningsmile4166 ya or destroy earth prime/ ;)
“The timekeepers work in mysterious ways.” That is BS for she has no idea but I follow their ways. And what about a movie called “Spider-Man into the spider-verse.”
@@stevelucky7579 , then just say I don’t know instead of making up bullshit speeches like saying so and so works in mysterious ways. For example if a person doesn’t know if piracy is the best form of government structure they wouldn’t say they’re a mysterious government structure that works in mysterious ways, and they’d just they don’t know objectively if piracy is the best solution for humans to always live throughout human history to now.
2 completely separate universes spiderverse movies are not cannon to the mcu.
The beginning was the best because it then shows Deadpool going to kill baby Hitler which was a deleted scene in Deadpool 2.
Congratulations, you got the joke
they showed killing a baby on a movie? A fucking marvel movie? What the fuck is going on over there america? You ok?
@Aryan Banyal still way to dark. do it like command and conquer kill him when hes an adult.
@Aryan Banyal no never watched deadpool 2
@@sarantsogtmunkhbaatar6974 dead pool is more like a antihero anyway
The “The Time Keepers work in mysterious ways” made me laugh way more than it should have.
Same. I mean that's pretty much the excuse every religion has for bad stuff even existing in the first place if their god(s) are so benevolent.
@@elitegamer9310 And for bad writing nowadays.
@@Сайтамен True.
"Yeah, so does the Mafia. That doesn't make them correct."
Lucifer: Finish that sentence and I'll punch you in YOUR "mysterious ways"
Shoutout to the guard in the background who nearly accidentally pruned himself.
TVA: "Why exactly would you meddle with the sacred timeline?"
Steve: "To put back the Stones where they belong."
TVA: "Really?"
Steve: "Okay no, I lied. I just felt guilty about getting with my girlfriend's niece almost directly after Peggy died. So i went back in time to get with Peggy and forget about Sharon."
TVA Judge: "Jesus Christ just let the poor guy go. It ain't his fault, it was his Star-Spangled D."
😂😂😂😂😂🙃🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol
LOL!!! I totally forgot about that in Civil War right? That was hilarious (and if you guys watched How Avengers Endgame should’ve ended he said that to Peggy when Steve saw her)
Prune the D then
You r sus
Poor Carl, he was just trying to clarify
Cooooral
@@robingaming55 *Rick grimes has entered the chat*
I was keeping my cool while watching this but that part literally made me burst out into laughter.
No. Carl just needs to not butt in.
Carl needs to get right.
0:46 The fact that Deadpool's still going around in the timeline and decided to kill baby Hitler one day is just great.
You could argue that the multiverse, like the comics and other Marvel tv shows/movies worlds, still existed but the TVA simply disconnected themselves from the rest of the multiverse. Like a piece of acorn separated from a massive tree and planted somewhere else. But instead of growing and creating branches, the TVA been cutting down the branches to keep it as one long tree. But because of Loki, the tree is growing once more and could tangle with the previous tree.
Yup, the multiverse just like Thanos is “inevitable”
This is a good example of explaining the mcu timeline and multiverse
@@jesusolguin5896 thnx
@@fictionverse7292 oh the raging purple simp is inevitable
Deadpool cucked Thanos
Why do you think Thanos hates him so much
@@anarchomando7707 and thats why we love movie thanos
"Variant 5-8-0-0-8"
"Thought we wouldn't notice but we did." 😏
just so you know I know what that is, but you might want to explain it for the sake of other people
Lets turn that calculator upsidedown.
😆😆😆 I knew it!
I don't get it
@@silaswilson8122 I gave the solution, put the numbers on a calculator, hold it upsidedown, then the numbers spell a word.
6:59: I’m surprised Cap didn’t say “Language!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well I mean he did already leave the room
I mean, just to be that guy, they get their magic from extra dimensional energy, which is different, somehow, dimensions instead of universes... I guess.
Dimensions are layers of a universe
Universes are their own thing
If that helps
Exactly. Like what the Ancient One said. The Dark Realm is a dimension outside of time and space. While multiverse exist in its own scape of "Dimension", things like Hell, thr Dark Realm, or the Quantum realm also have exists in each of its own dimensions independent of the multiverse.
@@thebronzedragon1 yeah I sort of imagine them as the same way heaven and hell (hifl) work in dragon ball, where they are outright part of the structure of each individual universe.
There's or universes, realities and dimmensions(according to theories, made even more confusing based on language and use of each word) Here is my attempt to make it simple. Like time travel in movies, it's never simple.
A forest- the soil is the start of each TYPE of alpa universe (the one where their laws of physics and understanding are different. Think of it as different breeds of trees but we will focus on our tree from here) The roots are the base with its "how it works" mechanics established by the type of universe, allowing dimensions, forming the trunk and our concept of spacetime. Then it's the branches of time-line we all know and are still bound to the rules of the tree. Those branches are also called universes because they A BRANCH of the same universe.
The MCU have said that alternate timelines are alternate universes, which is not true.
For DC and other media alternate timeline, alternate universe, and dimensions are 3 different things.
How to ruin a complex, convoluted story: A logical free-thinker.
Bro predicted the entire Loki season 2
The only thing truly sacred is Disney’s box office
and disney canon...until they want more money
ALL GLORY TO DISNEY. HAIL. HAIL. HAIL.
2:55 if you brought back everyone that hitlir killed, you'd be bringing him back as well
Then you could kill him again, on pay-per-view.
@@SIS3W3N you could create one of those Norwegian SlowTV broadcasts that go for several hours. Instead of a Yule Log you could have - Yule Log and Hitler on a Spit.
@@SIS3W3N or you can use the time Stone to rewind time so that way you can kill him over and over again in different ways on pay-per-view of course
Hitler faked his suicide
The Multiverse only exist in comic books.
6:55 “Uh, technically it’s both always and never Monday here…” 😂
And that is the Steve that ends up stress eating to not change the timeline, he was trying to keep his deal with the TVA, even if he looks different in that
I mean they had the guy right there, I don't get why they didn't use him.
The best part is when the guard almost prunes himself.
If you're asking for a timeline where all people are good and no bad things ever happened, you're technically asking for a paradise.
5:58 I would totally be the guy who managed to prune himself by using the stick to scratch an itch.
Lol I agwie
lol ok
I feel bad for TVA agents dealing with eternal variants
Pruned on the spot.
I feel bad for TVA agents don't know what fish is
Well there no powers in the TVA so they should be no problem.
With that said 2018 should be a nightmare considering it’s a 50% chance the wrong person didn’t get snapped
@@dahoodinie3950 Depends, mostly on high levels know, on low levels not.
@@luisf2793 I’m pretty sure it created 3 billion branch timelines, which the TVA ALL HAD TO DEAL WITH
I was literally Steve's entire thought process while watching the entire Loki show.
I always took the TVA's prupose as they just avoiding branching on that specific universe, not really that they prevented the multiverse from happening. Considering that the MCU is part of the multiverse already, that would make more sense.
I think Immortus braided the entire multiverse into one giant rope with an infinite number of strands, with each strand representing one universe. The rope, the Sacred Timeline, represents Immortus eventually being born and taking over the Multiverse thus preventing another Kang the Conqueror and trying start another Multiversal war.
Any event that would to Immortus not being born like killing Hitler causes a branching timeline thus TVA must stop anybody from killing Hitler.
Or the multiverse that does exist is just formed from nexus events that happened in the beginning of existence and have therefore drifted away from the sacred timeline enough to not cause a multiversal war
DC has a multiverse branch, Marvel has one, as well. It's funny when they say that whatever universe we are watching is the "last one left" even though the audience exists and is obviously not part of it.
5:20
doctor strange's "multiverse" is more like dimensions than an actual multiverse
I keep forgetting Deadpool is a Marvel character; he so much feels like his own thing.
he... is? he is not part of the mcu so technically he is kind of his own thing
@@KarmasAB123 that's not how cinematic universes work. For example, you have MCU | X men movies | Fantastic four movies, but the MCU has X men characters like pietro and wanda, deadpool is an extension of that, while some staf members seem to think that he's part of the x men movies verse, well.... he isn't, the one from the x men movies and the one from the deadpool movies are clearly totally different characters.
@@whathappened_. that's not how it works. As long as he doesn't appear, he doesn't exist
He is a Lavos seed, I mean Celestial egg's X-seeds.
@@typeouetco1626 I was talking about Marvel comics.
Lol Deadpool hiding from the TVA is like 10x more funny now
It's been over 2 years since my quest to assure that one day Warp Zone makes a recap rap for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Yes pls
They could also do one for Agent Carter
That was brilliant. Especially considering that the existing Avengers: Endgame finish, him going back to Peggy, was borderline character assassination without something like this happening.
I wouldn't call it character assassination, it was more like retirement, or him (dis)honorably discharging himself.
Alternatively; He saw that he didn't need to be there and him being there would cause problems, because technically still a fugitive.
@@tetragaming6332 He let JFK's assassination and 911 happen.
Nuff said.
@@redeemer66666 because the alternative was worse. Messing up time is bad
@@tetragaming6332 He let his best friend be tortured and brainwashed, his other friend be killed by said best friend, his sexy red ginger friend be brainwashed and become a child soldier, an uncountable amount of people die (WW2, Loki, Ultron, Thanos) and lastly, let his best frienemy die (Tony), all to get back with the chick we know, in canon and before the movie, had moved on and had told him to do so as well. Not to mention she was magically still young looking 20 years after he has disappeared (since it was the 60`s or 70`s, can't remember)
That wasn't just character assassination that was graphic torture AND assassination.
@@Artemisarrowzz we never see who she ended up with, so for all we know that's a closed loop. And once again, messing up those events could destroy the future. Think about how many people could be unmade if Steve 'fixes' all the world's problems, he could make a future where Thanos lives and humanity doesn't. If he stops world war 2, the nuke isn't made and Iron man won't have a missile to throw through that portal in 2012 and wipe out a lot of Thanos's fleet.
Letting those people get hurt and die saves an unknowable trillions more, as a soldier Steve would understand .
Bruh Steve pretty much predicted the TVA getting destroyed.
This is brilliant 😂
but i like this
Cap could have added, "I make a motion to dismiss these proceedings, as the facts of the case and the standing of the TVA to adjudicate it are in dispute. I am not in possession of evidence that the Timekeepers in fact exist, or what their jurisdiction is to control all timelines."
Brilliant 🤯 word are not the same anymore🚽 I’m sorry I didn’t like plus it least he tried
"technically its both always and never mondays, so-" "Oh, shut the f*ck up carl." I laughed so hard
Me watching this after season 2 ended I was wondering how did he predict this
Yeah, I gotta be "that guy". Most magic users, with the caveat of those that exist in all realities simultaneously, pull their power from different dimensions that are all part of the same universe. Thus, it is entirely within reason that there could be a singular timeline or that the multiverse does exist but only a very small deviation is allowed.
Ancient One specifically said multiverse over universe in the Dr Strange film.
@@TheWarpZone lol you got him there.
@@TheWarpZone Ok,how about this - By using the TVA,Kang is trying to prevent the existence of universes in which his variants exist. Any other universes where his variants DON'T exist are fine by him.
@@TheWarpZone does Steve even know if he killed baby Hitler, the world he came from stays the same no matter what he does, even If he prevented Hitler from growing up, everyone in Steve's world still knew a man* named Hitler
@@blazingblue_3039 or how about this: it's just writers that don't have any consideration for what the MCU did before and are just pulling stuff out of their ass in order to make their bullsjhit happen.
Looking back at the original Cap's life video, it's amazing how it all came together, almost as if they predicted the whole TVA thing.
I think you guys just predicted the plot of Loki season 2, 2 years before it came out.
"Uh technically it's always and never Monday here "😂😂
Judge: oh shut the f*** up Carl!
I honestly don't think she was acting when she said that part.
Time clearly works via Jeremy Bearrimy.
I vibe with that hating Mondays
Yep... these are indeed the questions that are asked when you have an ever expanding narrative universe and get cocky bringing time travel into it.
yep, could not have said it any better. Until End Game, Voyager was the worst desperate, negligent, and inconsistent use of time travel.
1:46
@@souventudubanned DS's multiverse isn't a multiverse, more like a set of magical dimensions. DS only got the ability to see the true multiverse when he got the time stone.
@@souventudubanned That wasn't the multiverse. That was a set of dimensions within their universe.
@@souventudubanned I did.
The bit when Deadpool shows up after the TVA leaves 1899 hits different after trailers for Deadpool 3 😅
From what I think Marvel has tried to explain, the "Multiverse" that Dr.Strange gets the magic from are actually considered realms, pockets of reality that kinda just are there, don't really affect anything just kinda there in their own little bubbles Dormammu lives in a realm where time does not exist... meaning there is no timeline, also the Quantum Realm where time acts differently.
This show broke the cannon just accept it my man.
@@tavernburner3066 Its hard to break the canon when they already had it planned out. Dormammu lives outside of time, meaning he does not exist in the timeline, Strange used the Time Stone in the eye to create a pocket of time in a realm without time, plus the other ability the Mirror Dimension, is more of a construct then a universe, seeing its able to fold in on itself. Then there is the Quantum realm, a realm where time acts differently which is how they explain why they could time travel though it. One of Dormammu's abilities is Dimensional teleportation, not Universal teleportation. Dimensional are a completely different wonky thing separate from the Universal Timeline. Heaven and Hell are considered Dimensions in some variations of the lore, even in games dimensions are considered realms outside the normal plain of existence. The only Multiversal thing Doctor Strange has done, is see multiple futures, which could just be written off as just a nexus event situation, because him saying there was only one universe in which they won, was likely a reference to the timeline which He who remains was creating, it was pre-decided it would happen. Well there is also the Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness, which is likely taking place during the Loki series seeing the timelines unraveling.
@@tavernburner3066 You bit off a bit more than you could chew going up against a marvel nerd
@@smiles9882 Yeah lol
Yes indeed, that's exactly what I thought while watching this video. The multiverse evoked in Dr. Strange has nothing to do with the one evoked in Loki. In Dr. Strange it's more of a mystical multiverse with different mystical dimensions that could be compared to heaven and hell, and not parallel realities of the same universe duplicated ad infinitum with some variations as it is in Loki.
Captain makes a valid point, several of them.
The fact that Steve knows about his corporate overlords is funny.
‘Uh technically it is both always and never Mondays here’ and the following reply slayed me.
Brilliant and very well thought out sketch :)
The Loki series made so many plot hole for the marvel universe.
It's almost as if that was their purpose because they now can nod to multiverse for everything... :D
Ehh lets say that everything that happened before Loki, had to happen
Actually endgame fucked it up, Loki just set it on fire....with napalm.
@@ДмитрийЗеленский-ж7х it was very intentional. i'm pretty sure they very concenpt of the multiverse is for shit to go out of wack. iF it son purpose,and gives us good stories then fine BUT!!!!! if they are going to use this as a means to just insert SJW crap into it *cough* falcon winter soldier. then they can keep it. comin from one black comic fan to another comic fan. steve rodgers is captian America. PERIOD. them giving peggy the super soldier stuff and giving her her OWN NAME!!!? perfectly okay in my book.
@@willclark4449 Falcon is captain america in the comics......
Cap's variant number is BOOBS. That got me, shouldn't have, but it did. 🤣
"What about the timeline where Thanos jumps to a future where he's already been killed, and then GETS KILLED before he ever had a chance to gather the stones and wipe out half of the universe and... get killed? Doesn't that drop the Sacred Timeline into a causality loop? Unless of course, there's already a multiverse in play?"
Dr. Strange: "If I warn Tony about what I want to happen, then it might not happen."
Me: "So choice - free will - and causality exist?"
Dr. Strange: "Um... yes?"
Me: "Then the Butterfly Effect - Chaos Theory - must _also_ exist.
Dr. Strange: "Wait..."
Me: "Meaning there would be INFINITE possible timelines/dimensions/realities/etc. in play at any given time: one for each infinitesimally small variation in human behavior, weather patterns, the movements of animals, etc..
Dr. Strange: "I don't -"
Me: "So there's no way in hell you could possibly bring about one desired timeline out of the 14,000,000+ timelines you watched - let alone the ONLY one that succeeds, because any little thing could drastically alter the flow of existence and prevent your desired result from ever happening."
Dr. Strange: "Please stop."
Me: "Like, if a rat gets eaten by a falcon or caught in a trap and _doesn't_ errantly step on a button, then Tony never gets the chance to have to make the choice you want him to make."
Dr. Strange: "But-"
Me: "Not to mention, you have the Time Stone. Just time loop Thanos like you did to Dormammu. If you were willing to face an eternity to save the world from Dormammu, why aren't you willing to do the same thing to save THE UNIVERSE from Thanos?"
Problem with that last part is that Dormammu could perceive that he was trapped in a time loop and negotiate to end it while Thanos would never realize that and just keep killing Strange forever.
Yes and no.
I think the Infinity Gauntlet allowed Thanos to break the rules without technically violating the Sacred Timeline.
What makes the ST sacred isn't that it's what the Timekeepers (or whoever) decreed it, it's that its the only one.
Nexus occur because a single variant interacts with otherwise non-variant causality.
But The Gauntlet changes everything all at once, so there's no conflict between variant and non.
No conflict, no nexus event. With no nexus event, the Timeline remains Sacred, despite being altered so comprehensively.
In other words, without realizing it, Thanos rules-lawyered the TVA into permitting time-travel powered xenocide.
In doing so, he bound the Timekeepers with their own system, forcing them to work within that system to correct the problem.
Hence establishing that the Avenger's re-assembling the Gauntlet was canon to the ST.
I don't think Thanks got killed. I think Tony just returned him and his army to where they are supposed to be, otherwise thered be a hell of a paradox there haha.
@@TheBlueSuperDude time loop and chaos would ravage so yeah, it makes sense.
Great sketch! Here's the simplest explanation:
Only timelines that can lead to the creation of a KANG are pruned.
He who remains (Nice Kang), defeated all other timeline Kangs during the multiversal war.
A "Nexus Event" means: an occurrence that leads to a timeline that can spawn a Kang.
The "Sacred Timeline" is not a single timeline, but multiple timelines braided together; they remain because they don't lead to Kangs.
The term "Sacred timeline" is misleading, it should be called "Sacred Braid".
But what about the other Lokis? In what way does alligator Loki eating the wrong cat result in kang?
@@digitalfantasies4570 donkey kang
I never thought of it this way, but, whether it's how they mean for it to be or not, it makes sense. If He Who Remains was trying to prevent himself from becoming Kang, his sole purpose would be to find the best possible timeline in which he doesn't become Kang and preserve it. That said, there are still many different variables to take into account, so I'm not sure if that's the only criterion that matters, but it's an intriguing thought.
3:58
Whims of a madman or a
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One might call it a Central Finite Curve, even.
Wrong baby, Cap! Hitler was born in 1889 and not 1899.
This guy captured Chris Evans'/Steve Rogers' energy so well
There's no d in rogers
@@cunningsmile4166 Oh shit yeah
@@LimeyFella you're welcome
I love how Deadpool was just waiting for them to leave so he could perform his own scene of visiting baby Hitler. However, Deadpool just changes his diaper, and says he’ll bring Cable.
Cap: "the whims of a madman or a conqueror..."
Kang: 😏
Spider-man variants must be the most annoying variants for the TVA to deal with. Considering they are connected to the Web of Life and Destiny. Aka the very thing that holds the multiverse together.
Uhh, what did you say, the what of what and what?
Oh come on on, it's like saying spiderman is the reason marvel multiverse works........
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@@thetaskmaster717 It's a multiversal structure introduced in the comic book spiderverse that connects and allows sipder avatars(those chosen to gain certain spider powers by the great weaver) to travel throughout the multiverse freely amongst other things.
We don't know if that's how it works in the MCU yet. Guess we'll see in No Way Home
@@ceciladams4882 The Mcu is Earth 199999.
It's the same multiverse
TVA realists their existence is useless: “Fuck”
Captain America: “Language, but yes,”
Realizes
Or Cap doing this one thing causes the TVA to fail....
Best part
Got her backpedaling like a parent who’s child just found out Santa isn’t real lol
Love this analogy!
This contextualizes the previous video of Steve and Peggy so much and I love it. He was so afraid of messing up the timeline because of the TVA.
The MCU was basically a braided connected rope. Multiple universes woven together that all went toward the same general direction, HWR being the only Kang variant. Sometimes it would slightly unravel, leading to that strand needing to be pruned, ie, burned off so it wouldn't further go. After Loki, all the strands are fraying and interacting in ways they shouldn't.
yeah, otherwise the TVA would have pruned Silvie way earlier. There's probably a varient of lady loki who still invades earth and ends up getting killed by thanos. they just care about character development.
4:44 Well, just a bit of Marvel nerding here, but the Multiverse does exist even within the Sacred Timeline. The Sacred Timeline is a path that infinite universes have to take. They just can't allow a universe to branch of from that path.
“By the way captain wait till you’re like 80 and then give the falcon your shield… it’s for the sacred timeline”
If you think about it, there have been two timelines all along. See, when Cap went back in time and stayed with Peggy, he created a new timeline. The fact that he was sitting on that bench waiting for them shows that he has been there all along, which means the MCU takes place in a different timeline.
The TVA is full of plot holes.
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I bet America's arse is sore after sitting on that park bench for nigh on 80 years....
@@mitchryan257 the writers confirmed that he was in the same time line though. He did this all along.
This is honestly one of the best edited and produced video warp zone has ever made. And they got the whole courtroom too. These guys are good at making these videos
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Just though of something; the Red guardian could have fought Captain America, because Steve was back in time, while another one was in the ice meaning if our Steve Rogers suit up as Captain America to help out for whatever reason, the red guardian would’ve thought him
He sang a version of the Captain America theme which is hilarious, and now he's playing as the Captain Rogers.
Since the Warp Zone is fairly popular, especially the Steve Rogers and MCU bits they do, I would love a small part of this Captain America shows up as a Variant in a future show/movie.
"Both always & never mondays" fucking hilarious
“These sound like the whims of a madman or a conqueror!”
HA! It’s funny because Kang.
That is the joke
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Damn Steve, although this only skit. It still shows that he really is smart
“Hawkeye had a terrible haircut” YES! YES TF HE DID
Its almost like the TVA’s logic and laws were made to fit the whims of the writers for plot convenience.
atleast the Timelords in doctor who have a more viable hand wave for allowing hitler it's that they have a literal Extra sense of what historical events they can change and which they can't
@@WardNightstone Yeah well Dr Who is actually a well written show (up until season 11) while Loki was garbage.
@@zl3791 nope. loki was great
@@ProjektTaku It objectively wasnt. You may have enjoyed it but that doesn't change the fact that is was badly written, badly executed and was riddled with plot holes. And I guess my standards are just higher than yours.
I am asssuming its same logic like Dr Strange 14 000 000 failed outcomes. It does not make any sense they were not able to stop Thanos more than once especially when Thor apparently did not aim for milion times for head xD.
Also whole World War 2 argument its funny from Steve anyway, because without World War 2 he would never be hero in the first place. Which I assume was the He who remains intention creating villain who gaves rise to heroes, just like Loki´s existence was presumably only here to help Avengers reach their potential.
And besides juding how much troll was He who remains in the last episode, he is definetly type of person who would let holocaust happen simply because he was borde. But thats whole other discussion anyway.
Actually I think Strange draws power from the REAL multiverse, an infinite amount of SEPARATE timelines. Technically what they call the multiverse in Loki is just a single universe with infinite branching timelines.
Real seems a poor choice of words here
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Real relative to this I mean
Was he really talking about alternate realities or what could have been, or was he talking about the fabric of reality or what created the universe or something.
Doctor Strange pulls in magic from different universes. While Loki is one universe with multiple timelines.
DC knows the difference between alternate timeline and alternate universe.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 I think the TVA was also pruning other universe timelines tho. As the timeline is supposed to unfold how it did then it would not makes sense for the variants to actually look diffrent now wouldn't it, unless those that look diffrent are not from the same universe. Quite frankly Gator Loki would be pruned for just being a gator, as his reasoning for being pruned was eating the wrong cat. So unless we are to believe Loki has eaten a cat at some point then they have not come from a alternate timeline that branched off the sacred timeline but a timeline that branched off another universes timeline. Same goes for boastful Loki wouldn't he be pruned for simply obtaining one infinity stone not 6, or classic Loki for living alone instead of dying.
This would explain why the stones don't work in the TVA but they do within the Dark dimension and other timelines. The TVA sits outside of the Mulitverse and not simply within a diffrent dimension within the universe like the dark dimension does. This would explain the lack of powers as well for everyone within it. The sacred timelines could be sacred because they are engineered to keep the mulitverse from colliding into each other like HWR warned about, so they prune any timeline from the Mulitverse that would lead into that meeting of the Kangs that started it all.
0:43 just predicted Deadpool and Wolverine
“Um technically, it’s always and never Monday here!”
Doesn't this mean they pruned the version of Captain America who got his ass kicked by his future self? I mean, Loki got in trouble due to their meddling.
Based on what happened in episode one that cap and all the avengers from that timeline are dead
@@TheWarpZone not dead just resting everything
@@TheWarpZone i don't want to be that ''guy'' but the ass clown was born 1889 not 1899 he would have been 10
technically that is an alternate timeline, but it's not as much of a difference that they need to prune it. Similar to how they didn't prune Silvie the day she was born. They were alright with Loki being a woman as long as that woman still ruined Thor's inauguration, tried to conquer Asgard and Earth, and ended up getting killed by Thanos. It's similiar to the alternate Pompei Timeline that Loki creates.
@@ryanrod6990 loki warping out directly screws the events of thor 2 thor 3 then infinity war
"this was alot easier when he had the moustache"
Hol' on lemme get my sharpie
Good thing he didn’t mention Agents of shield repeating going through timelines XD
Same goes for Runaways.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 and cloak and dagger
@@marvelpugs6964 They never time traveled.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 true
I forgot that in one timeline, Daisy/Quake literally cracked the earth like an egg.
This was kind of brilliant. It does a good job of explaining the whole thing with Cap at the end of Endgame... All while being hilarious. This (or a "variant" of it) should be canonized.
So good to see you guys back in business after the whole defy media bs
TVA! You gotta chase Deadpool too! He changed the timeline too!
He just drew a big mustache on baby Hitler and "lightly" augmented the limb structure of a human body
pretty sure that wasn't part of the mcu at this point. Other then this skit of course.
@@nadegeromulus325 I know. I just wanted to make the joke.
Judge: "Ugh I hate Mondays."
Carl: "Technically, it's both always and never Monday."
Judge: "Oh, shit the f*** up, Carl."
Me: 😂🤣☠️👻
When they take a sleep? Or they don't need to?
its possibly same day each day at the tva i think so it may be forever monday or whole other day entirely all the time.
She said shut not shit.
@@malikthemadman I know, it's called a typo.
@@GeminiKnight76 why didn't you fix it? that's what you're supposed to do when a typo happens.
I've rarely seen a Captain America who was so little like Captain America, in almost every way.
Now that's a prequel for that Steve and Peggy video I wasn't aware I needed.