Which F150 engine would a Ford Technician pick? 2020!
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Back in 2017, we asked our technicians which engine they would choose if they were to buy a new F150. 3 years later, they have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly of each of these engines! So now, we are asking them again, on the new revised version of the engines. Which would you choose?
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“Hey Bob can I ask you a Ques....
Bob: “5.0!”
WARNING FORD FANS!!!! Scotty Kilmer says the 5.0L oil consumption problem is a Ford class defect that Ford won't admit to. All of Ford's work arounds don't address or fix the real problem..... which is that Ford used an aluminum block on these 5.0 engines, and didn't sleeve the cylinders. They used a ceramic coating in these cylinders (to save a few pennies), and this coating is either failing or it isn't working as it's supposed to, thus causing the massive oil consumption problem.
I watch Scotty religiously, so I'm aware of this, too. Both of my sons are mechanic, and they confirm the issue. I hope Ford will address this. My 2002 F-150 5.4l still doesn't burn a drop of oil (that I know of) at 353,000 miles. I won't replace it until I can get that 5.0l without a concern.
@@treetrunker13 These new vehicles are just too complex and aren't made to last.. the tech to start/stop, several computers, etc.. NOT NEEDED. They roll the tech too fast to stabalize it and make it reliable. Very nice! 300k+ miles and still going... everyone should be focused on doing that.
@@pootieputin2771 It's why NOT a 5.0 for me. 3.5 and chip it to Raptor strength.
Bob knows exactly what's going on...!
You should try and do another video where the Pros talk about the engines for the 250. Would like to see their impressions on the 7.3
Fantastic idea! If this video gets 2,000 likes... we’ll do the same thing for the super Duty!
Town and Country TV not even close for me 6.7 all day long
6.7 > 7.3
i want to drive a 7.3 superduty, but as for right now i havent seen too many on the road so i cant really give too much judgement on the 7.3. but the 6.7 over the 6.2 even with the diesel having all the emissions crap on it.
Yes! I’d love to see a SD engine choice video!
Shop guys: we don’t see too many 5.0 come through
Office guys: too many problems with the 5.0
Hhhhhmmmmm....
Office guys are scum thats why. Hate salesmen
Office guys work on commission
That's because the 3.5 ecoboost option costs more. They'll sell the most expensive crap and prop it up.
As another person pointed out, you need ‘per unit sold’ data. For example, if 95% of F150s sold have the 3.5L but 75% of the engines in the shop are 5.0s, then then it’s obvious the 5.0 is less reliable. But if the shop guys don’t have access to the data on how many of which type are sold, it would create a bias.
5.0 Power , reliable, no extra moving parts, and it’s a V8
It has more moving parts than you think.
@@theyhatehimbecausehetoldth7576 True, but still less hassle than Turbos to deal with and mess up. The 3.5 is an awesome engine, but if simplicity is your thing, 5.0 all the way.
@@migmag_9789 if simplicity is what you want engine wise, then go with a Chevy. They are still a pushrod design. The coyote is a quad cam, 4 valves per cylinder engine which is arguably a inherently complex design.
I'm not too well versed with the ecoboost engines, but I would like to guess that they only thing more complex about them is having a turbo system. In less that system has issues, it's fine.
@@theyhatehimbecausehetoldth7576 I heard no one mention 5.8L 351W, are they no longer manufactured? Im still running mine, 27 years strong.
@@zombiekiller2point91996 was the last year for the 5.8L 351 in the F-150 and 1997 for the Heavy Duty trucks. It was replaced by the 5.4L Triton SOHC
I've leased 3 F150's since 2013. The first was a 5.0, the second was a 2.7 eb and currently driving a 3.5 eb. I have loved them all. The only reason I'm driving the 3.5 is because I tow a 7500 lb camper. If I weren't, I'd definitely go back to the 5 liter...that truck was a lot of fun, but I must say that the eb pulls my camper up some pretty steep hills without breaking a sweat.
Didn't think the 2.7 could pull the camper huh?
@@MeltingRubberZ28 7500 lbs, towing capacity for the 2.7 would probably be exceeded.
@@harveyotoole2029 I'm quite positive the 2.7 is rated to 9k with the tow package.
@@harveyotoole2029 The 2.7 is rated for 10,000
I have 2 3.5 EB my son has a 5.0 they do sound different I miss the roar but my Grandkids love the set you back in the seat when the turbo boost up, so unless I Roush it I’ll take 3,5 any day
I’ve been a collision tech at a ford dealership since 2011. Seeing what I see, and talking with the techs, I’d take a 5.0 any day.
Can you elaborate?
I just bought a 2016 XLT w/V8. LOVE IT!
I've worked in service stations. If most techs prefer working on 5.0 engines, I'd rather give them one to work on. Happy mechanic, happy truck 😎👍
The office guy says ‘because we see a lot of problems with the 5.0’ and the techs say they don’t see a lot of 5.0’s ‘back here’ - very strange.
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I myself have a 3.5 EB, and I love it. I get 23 mpg on the highway. Which is a huge upgrade over my old ranger which I would only get 16 mpg.
thats... what my chevy 5.3 gets on the highway, turbos really only milk epa numbers and not real world it seems
Yea my 3.5 got 15 if I was lucky.
I appreciate the candid, honest approach of this video. I would do business with this dealer any day.
18year Ford senior master tech here and I would go with the 2.7L all day - 3.5L has a lot of phaser issues and the 5.0L eats oil and leaks coolant and I have seen so many buy backs on them. 2.7L has great HP, torque and gas mileage I call it the little beast
What about the 5.0 2021 and up? Do they still have the oil consumption problem
5.0 The only way to go!
Had a 3.5 excellent motor, my dad has a 5.0 I absolutely love it. I went on and bought a 2018 5.0.
I can relate to that 5.0 growl. Have a 21 GT premium with active exhaust. Not only does it have a sickE amount of HP out of the box, but it's hard to beat that sound, especially when that 10 speed starts to down shift.
5.0 every time. We have had two and a mustang with it. Previously had the thunderbird as well in it. A beast of a motor! Easy to work on and rebuild. Love it.
Love my 2020 F150 5.0 here in the thumb of Michigan. Sounds great and getting around 20mpg on 87 octane.👍
another reason i cant see the EB engines, pretty much same mpg and less things to worry about with the 5.0 maintenance wise
man ive gotta say this surprised me. after reading all the negative reviews about the 5.0 burning oil and rattling or ticking coming from the engine... I really would've thought more techs would have chosen the 3.5 especially with the upgrades it received back in 2017 for the 2nd gen..
V8 for power and you can make a.ll the mods you want. Just a shame the blocks are aluminum now and they stopped sleeving the cylinder walls so that they can take the pressure and didnt have oil consumption problems in the past
@@TheIronChainMaster395 horse and 400 torque on the 5.0 vs 375 horse and 470 torque on the 3.5 ecboost? probably more overall power with the 3.5 no?
@@timmywilliams9838 nope, the one I had struggled to haul water. Switched to the 5.0
Do a video where what transmission would they pick in the v8, 6 or 10 speed in the 2015+ f150’s.
3 years 50k on my Trump Red STX 2.7, 20.4 mpg in town, ain’t going say it’s better than a 5.0 or 3.5, but it is soooo good and will bust 5.3’s and 5.7’s at the lights all day long, if Grammy ain’t riding shotgun; she’s Penticostal and Jesus and her frown on that sort of thing. Great video!
Haha. I ate 2.7's with my 5.7 easily. Did those folks know you were actually racing?
BlueElk not with a 10 speed trans your not
I'm a F 150 owner 2010 and I had some of the same problem you have and your not alone . I have the 54 L engine I was told by ford to deal with the dealership that was the wrong thing to . When I got my truck back I found thing's unplugged never been back I have owed five ford vehicles I like the 2021 Platinum but at that price of 67,000 I don't think so looking at Toyota Lexus.
Next time include all f series trucks, so we can add the powerstroke, 6.2 and 7.3 into the mix.
2nd. Always the V8 for me
It was great to hear the salesmen at the end say 2.7! In 2019, I purchased a used 2016 F150 Ecoboost 2.7 Sport with 32,000 miles on it for $32,000 dollars! Ruby red and black sport trim. Clean as a whistle. To date, I have 106,000 miles on it and so far have only replaced the brakes, battery, and tires. It is still running great. I have it serviced by a local Nissan dealership where I purchased it for mostly oil changes and tire rotation. Unfortunately, I had the check engine light come on today and I'm researching possible issues. Sensor or maybe a dirty air filter?
Hey there's a Toyota Tacoma in the shop. Probably just getting an oil change.😂
TOYOTA=JUNK
I love the honesty from the guys at the dealership!
I havent had a single issue with my 5.0 in my 2011 f-150, still runs like a charm and sounds sexy as all get out with straight pipes (cats still on it)
2.7, fuel economy and street torque. All of these engines make plenty of power from the factory. So you used to be a 2.7 guy, why have you changed your mind?
I just appreciate the transparency! No BS here! Thanks!!
Kind of surprised, Not many people vote for the 3.5,,,, with 470 ft of tourque and at low rpm but I could see the 5.0 for classic v-8 sound.
I will take the 3.5 myself. They are proven and the low end torque is great. Not need to wring it out to get torque like a NA.
Seeing him shoulder deep in a Raptor that's no older than 3 says a lot.
Thank you for doing this asking the guys that see the vehicle the F-150 coming into Ford shops. Factory trained by Ford, certified tech guys. The majority of them chooses the V-8
That has to speak Loudly more than the single guy out doing his own video. Not saying the home grown guy doesn't know his stuff, they do in my Humble opinion. It just these Factory trained guys see the F-150 day in and day out from all different Drivers. People that don't work on there own Trucks. Don't know the in's and outs of boosting there Engines. The important thing I came away with. If your looking at just Fuel miles, the smaller engine will work for you. But if you are using your truck for power/tow
Then majority of them choose V-8 that must say something about the 5-0 V-8. Great video by Ford people that see them, all different Drivers, not just one person doing a video about the Truck they own.
less 5.0 in for repairs. well they are only in 26% of the trucks.
Your point? There are numerous engines not one will have a huge majority
5.0L is the only F150 I'll ever buy so far I've owned 3.
Now try to find a 5.0. The bulk of what you will find is a V6 with a turbo charger. Two sales guys say 2:7 doesn’t surprise me they see it as what the monthly payment is on the four square. I have a 5.0 super crew with a 6.5 bed. Can you say unicorn?
Notice that the techs that would choose the 5.0 V8 answered with zero hesitation. The EcoBoosts are developing amazing power and torque for their size, but I'm not convinced that the stresses within any boosted engine will have the longevity of a traditional V8. When the EcoBoosts start passing the 500 k miles mark, let me know.
You haven't spent much time around diesel engines have you?
If you actually look at how the engines are designed; there’s not much different about the 5.0L except a lack of turbos and lack of forged internals. The injection, variable timing, etc. is there in the 5.0L just like the ecoboost, there’s just more of it.
This is probably why most of these were saying “Because V8”.
I think one of the first responses is best. “Depends on what you are going to do with it”
For me, I would likely get the 2.7. It is the most capable of getting the best fuel economy while still being able to tow a decent amount of weight.
Technology will always be more complicated to work on but should not be feared. That said, I am way too frugal to upgrade for a while and sticking with my Tundra with its thirsty but disgustingly reliable powerhouse. Next truck will likely be an F150 but by then, will it even use gasoline?
Eventually they will get rid of the v8 as it will not be possible to achieve the epa goals. As hybrid power trains begin, EV options will slowly take over.
I bought a low mileage 150 with the 5.0, solely based on opinions from the people that work on them. Their opinions are much more valuable than some dude sitting behind a desk.
300 inline six, still got 2 going strong at 37 years old.
I bought a 2021 2.7L. This video was a MAJOR factor in my decision.
So you trusted the office guys over the mechanics that actually work on them. 🤔😬🤣
I worked on govt fleet vehicles I'd never chose the 3.5 Ecoboost lots of issues on that motor. I'd gladly take a 5.0
Notice how they never mentioned the 5.4 Triton. It's best year was the last year.
Just bought a 2020 f150 lariat 5.0 GREAT TRUCK.
4.9 i-6 308 easy to accesses not complitated to work on and no need for a computer degree low end torque and good mileage lots of aftermarket upgrades and a millon miler
lets have a redo with current gas prices so we can see if the 5.0 gets as much love with gas no longer being affordable
If only they could explain their decisions. All auto makers are building ever complicated engines with closer tolerances which are not forgiving when improperly maintained. That being said I’d chose a 5 liter because it’s a proven engine. And they can certainly be tuned for torque. If you need more power get the 7.4 liter gas or diesel.
I can tell you what engine these guys would pick before they even pick. Everyone has a use and thats the engine they will go with
My 2014 f150 5.0 just turned 300000 today
Good work. Thanks fellas
My son is a tech and he absolutely hates working on either Ecoboost.
I don't like working on the ecoboost...LOL
I would not own an engine that has the water pump driven by the timing chain.
Do you have a video of the exhaust sound and install?
I still think the old 4.9 inline 6's were awsome!
When I was looking for a used F150 last year I was scared of the oil consumption thing to the point I decided if I got a 2018 or newer I was not going to go with the 5.0.. However I ended up finding a deal on a 2015 with very low miles, one owner, with the 5.0. Checked all the boxes I was looking for (XLT screw with 6' bed, 2k payload)
I've only put around 8-9k miles on it so far but I love the truck. Nice V8 growl and good power/torque with very acceptable MPG, what's not to love? Thanks for the video!
How many miles did it have when you bought it
@@richardmercado6285 Just over 40k
I have a 2016 f150 5.0 with 72,000. Aside from the vct selonoid issue, no issues
All the people that picked the turbo/eco-boost don't work on cars they work in the office, all the people that really know what there talking about stay away from turbo, for many good reasons.
Coyote all day , if people actually knew what was going on inside that EcoBoost they would stay away from it .
What’s going on inside it
@@jconroy102 probably internal combustion
Arman Peirce hahaha, all engines do that
@@jconroy102 they make meth in there
Super surprised (and happy) you asked them about the V8 grind... but as someone who owns an 18 w/ a 5.0... try living with it every day, sounding like a kid who can't clutch, and Ford can't do a damn thing about it. TSB flash ain't worth s#!t
He should have prefaced the question with "If a 390 or 428 or even a 351 was available"
What did the guy in the white t-shirt say the 3.5 Ecoboost has issues with?
The ??? that should be asked, is which motor has the most S.B.s???
Which motor gets written up the most? Most common failure coming in the door?
"motor" ? oh you mean ENGINE, ok 5.0
I find it funny, not one of them said the power stroke. That one is must not have the fans.
I been thinking V8 + supercharger all The Way 🌞 For decades! + I figured easier to work on!😊
If you want a truck to last - never get a turbo - 5.0 is the best in gas . The 6.2 diesel was a joke
They keep saying more power on the V8 saying it's more powerful. That's not true 3.5 echo boost is stronger. Just look at all the you tube videos of the v5 vs 3.5. 3.5 wins all the time. Also u get alot of non valid answers like "I am a V8 guy? So dumb. Or I dont like eco because I dont like to work on them.
A lot of Raptors in there... Hmm
One of which they were pulling the cab 😂
Ask a bunch of mechanics that don’t mind working on them. Doesn’t cost them $5000 to work on them
3.3 is proving to be more reliable than the 5.0 but both are good.
Powerboost is what I choose.
V8 engines are amazing it is a pity there are so few cars using them today.
Would be more interested in seeing the shop statistics - which engines come in for work more often and why
Well it's the little 2.0 eco, then the 2.7, then the 3.5. In that order it seems.
Yes, please spill out the stats.
stats per units sold
@@chhh8057 What has the 2.0 eco in it?? Not the F150.
2.7s almost never come in to ours. Early builds did due to the oil pan. But they updated it and they have all be awesome. Not even turbo failure after 180k
Hey Bob...."I....."
Bob..."5.0"
That was quick....and I also vote 5.0
5.0 V8 Coyote all day baby!
That guy @2:50 should be fired.
Just bought 2020 with 5.0. Getting 25+mpg.
@@kalijasin They should give him a medal and make him foreman
Well in a race we all know who wins. 2.7 by destruction
Funny how the guys actually working on the engines dont see much problems with 5.0 vs the office guys LOL
The guys in the shop work in their own little areas and don't see the whole picture. Office guys do stats, finances, complaints and deal with Ford so they have the best overall knowledge of the problems. I would go with the office guys. Shop guys only like 5.0 cause it's easier to work on.. and it's loud.
@@aarutuno So your saying the mechanics have no idea what they are talking about?
5.0 all day everyday. The 302 cubic inch has been around for decades for a reason.
Anthony A. Really? They work in there own little areas... come on man the shop isn’t that big they can’t see / don’t know what’s coming in there more often. The office guys might hear more complaints but guess what, those complaints are only legitimized when the truck comes in and mechanics figure out if something is actually wrong or not with the engine and not some other part of the vehicle. I’d trust the opinions of all the mechanics vs some office guys that likely have little idea the inner workings of an engine. Also there’s a reason the 5.0 L V8 has been around forever now, and that’s reliability.
@@feral4112 Doesn't matter if they know how the engine works or not, office guys would see the numbers.
"X vehicle at Y spec comes into shop for Z reason. Actions A B and C were taken. We sell X numbers of Y vehicle's with this engine in it and Z is the failure rate." Math is scary, i know.
Interesting that there weren’t any 3.0 powerstroke answers.
Probably because nobody bought any for these guys to work on. 50k for a half ton is insane
@@jellyfrosh9102 50K is typical ford a half nice truck
@@edwardmyers1746 50k base price is typical?
To get the diesel you have to buy a lariat or higher and you can't buy a single cab. The base price for a gas engine truck is in the low 30s.
@@jellyfrosh9102 I saw an XLT 3.0 and made an offer on it but they would'nt come off the 47k price, so i bought and a f250 6.7 for 44k. There are some fleet trucks with the 3.0, but hard to find.
Because its a pointless motor for this model.
5.0 all day everyday!
Yes, except for this..... WARNING FORD FANS!!!! Scotty Kilmer says the 5.0L oil consumption problem is a Ford class defect that Ford won't admit to. All of Ford's work arounds don't address or fix the real problem..... which is that Ford used an aluminum block on these 5.0 engines, and didn't sleeve the cylinders. They used a ceramic coating in these cylinders (to save a few pennies), and this coating is either failing or it isn't working as it's supposed to, thus causing the massive oil consumption problem.
Hahahaha
@@pootieputin2771 old flappy hands. My 2019 uses 1 quart in 5000 miles. I started using 8 quarts of oil instead of 8.85 the manual says. Now i use 0 quarts between changes.
@@randythompson4006 Interesting... seems like some are affected more than others... and some have had no problems. If you do some searching on Google and Utube... it is very big problem.
Same here brother.
Real close to 300,000 miles on my 2013 F150 Supercrew with a 5.0. Still runs great! Had the 6R80 trans rebuilt at 220,000 miles. I replaced the timing cover gasket and water pump at 260,000 because of very small leaks and the driver side cat at 275,000. Been one of the best vehicles I have ever owned!
I have a 2003 F150 with 368k on the original 5.2 V-8. Same tranny and it is original as well. The owner of a Ford dealership told just do the maintenance it should run a long time. So I have done every maintenance at Ford per the owners Manuel. As a result it still runs great.
Did your water pump make a noise sound like a power steering
@@mrgulfstream11 you mean 5.4 Triton V-8, right?
I don't believe Ford ever made a 5.2 V-8.
If you had the v-6 I think the water pump going out will kill your engine but I have no idea
@milkrvr4088 It's a big problem on the transverse mounted 3.5 EB (explorer, taurus, edge, flex) because it has an internal pump, driven off the timing chain. If the pump begins to leak, it will just mix coolant into the oil in the timing cover. Needless to say, coolant doesn't lubricate well and does quite the opposite by diluting the oil and thus not lubricating the bearings. Just ask anyone who's ever owned a 2.7 v6 Chrysler, lol
These may be great engines but I've got a 79 300 six in a 4x4 that's got half a million miles.
Not a lot of power but decent torque and will run forever.
Comparing the old straight 6 to anything else is just unfair- it may not match the power and torque of newer engines, but those things will run forever as long as they have a few drops of oil in the pan, and something vaguely flammable in the fuel tank!
I have a 300 in my '82 F150 and my '86 Full Size Bronco. Great engine. And I had one in my '79 F150 2 wheel drive. I could get in the engine compartment and stand there, Change spark plugs etc.
I have the pinnacle of the 300, in a '96 F-150. I'm sure many will disagree, but having one with OBDII is the best running 300 you can get. Only 182,000 miles but I wouldn't hesitate to take it cross country for any reason.
Only problem is it's paired to a M5OD transmission...
It's hard to beat an inline engine for longivity. But soon we all may end up having to upgrade to run E85. Don't know how far off that is but I'm sure it's coming. Just like they jacked the price up on non-ethynol gas and leaded gas.
I would choose the 5.0 because it's a v8 and sounds great when in high rpm.
3.5 sounds better straight pipes
@@JoseMartinez-cc3ip I would say that subjectively the 5.0 sounds better because it is next to impossible to replicate the sound of a good ol american v8 in anything that isnt.
Well until you hear the turbo noise mixed in to it
@@tylerperlenfein you are right
@@JoseMartinez-cc3ip Have you heard a twin turbo 5.0 coyote? O M G🔥🔥
I just bought my F150, 30 days ago. Its a 2019 5.0. I love my shiny big coyote. I get better gas mileage than my chevy silverado v8. And it blows that Chevy out the water. No problems and it sounds and looks great.
Well, you bought right if you want the best motor longevity.
Same. Just got mine month ago and still loving that 5.0.
5.0L peak piston speed is 82.5mph, faster than a formula 1 engine @17,000 rpm
the short rod to stroke ratio uses the cylinder wall to accelerate the piston faster than the crank's speed. by pushing the piston at a steep angle.
that's good for speeding up air and increasing volumetric efficiency but not good for durability
did you know 5.0L is 20% smaller engine but only 3% better fuel economy.
at higher rpm you are actually displacing more per minute.
power adders have a net gain but also use power and create wear. a super charger might require 150hp to run but add 400hp gross. you burn fuel and wear like 400hp but gain 250 net horsepower.
a 6.2L and a 5.0L in a race, with same axle ratios, the 5.0L would run out of gas first.
@@PawPaws_Place I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 133,000 miles on it and still going strong and it's a beast and plus it sounds like a beast as well (especially with the Borla ATAK).
@Vegas EMT
WRONG
Our family currently has three F-150's (18+), and oddly one of each engine. As much as I love the sound and smooth power delivery of the V8, it feels like your dragging bricks after driving the Turbo models. The 3.5 has a bit more punch than the 2.7, but hardly noticeable in every day driving. The 3.5 is also the only we have had a couple of minor issues with. As far as towing, it's usually the trucks Payload your going to max out before the engine HP even makes a difference. If I had to chose, it would be the 2.7. That small ecoboost mated with that 10 speed is one of the best F150 combos in decades. I'm still amazed by it. Reading the forums, it appears to be one of the most reliable as well. Even the Turbo's are holding up, a majority of these newer Ecoboosts trucks will go to the junk yard with their original turbo's in them. Though I would love to build a regular cab short box with the 5.0 as fun weekend bang around truck, but for everyday driving I'll take the 2.7.
"a majority of these newer Ecoboosts trucks will go to the junk yard with their original turbo's in them" - and it will be none too soon since they won't turn into rust buckets.
The small turbo engines are reaming their guts to make that power. It's a lot harder to wear one out turning less rpms.
I have the 3.5EB and love it, just miss the V8 with an aftermarket exhaust!
Same boat! I LOVE the intoxicating power of my 3.5 EB (I have an E50 tune from 5 Star) but I miss having a bit of the V8 growl. But then, I’ve had obnoxious sounding V8 cars (supercharged mustang) and it’s nice to be able to get on it and not wake the dead.
I have 2 with the 5.0 2012 and 2019. Just got the 2021 eb 3.5 and it is way more powerful. It drives like a mid size suv.
V8 it’s simple longevity reliability and easier maintenance.
Mikie Jones enjoy it till you blow it up inevitably. And what change turbo’s have been around as long as cars have and have been on auto’s since the 70’s so you point is a mute point bottom line their not reliable after 100-200k miles.
Sorry, V type engines wear more than inline type engines.
Jim Holmes there isn’t any option for an inline engine in a half ton truck except in the GMs. They have a 3 liter inline but it’s diesel.
@Mikie Jones I lived through the 2.3L Ford engines, hearing time and time again that they are great and last just as long. Then they don't. Then the new one comes out and they say the same thing again. I have heard this since the early 1980's. I agree that you shouldn't be afraid of change, but how many failed attempts to I need to see before I stop? At this point if Ford has a car with an engine that starts with a 2 and ends in Liter, I will pass.
Totally agree brother.
I've heard the 2.7 has the boost reliable engine. It has a engine block from a powerstroke and it's more compact and just overall built better. From people who have had all 3 they all like the 2.7 the most.
I love my 2016 2.7💚
Definitely love the 2016!
I’m sure the 2.7 is great….. but you punch that Peddle in a 3.5 twin turbo and you’ll change your mind. That bitch eats
Love my 2.7
the boosted 2.7 has a faster 0-60 than the 5.0 V8.
Exactly why I chose the 5.0 for my 2018 F-150. My cousin is a Ford Technician at Fox Ford in Traverse City, MI. He had the same recommendation for me in 2017 when I ordered the truck.
Does yours burn oil? I have 2018 f150 5.0 and still burns about 3 quarts of oil even after having the tsb performed for the oil consumption problem, now doing a oil consumption test and may be getting a new engine.
Nathan N I hear that is an 18 thing mine is a 15 and my dad has a 16 no problems here
@@nathann3144 Ford knows what's going on... they won't admit to a class problem. They should have sleeved the 5.0 aluminum block... insted they used ceramic coating in the cylinders and it is failing.
@@nathann3144 3 quarts in between changes.... that's insane
Nathan N I have an ‘18 5.0 doesn’t burn a drop between changes. And I change yearly
5.0 v8 all day everyday. It’s all about straight power. No need for a high maintenance eco boost
True, except for this..... WARNING FORD FANS!!!! Scotty Kilmer says the 5.0L oil consumption problem is a Ford class defect that Ford won't admit to. All of Ford's work arounds don't address or fix the real problem..... which is that Ford used an aluminum block on these 5.0 engines, and didn't sleeve the cylinders. They used a ceramic coating in these cylinders (to save a few pennies), and this coating is either failing or it isn't working as it's supposed to, thus causing the massive oil consumption problem.
I have 2018 F150 with the 5.0, Was burning oil like crazy, about 5-6 quarts in between oil changes, there was a TSB out for this which I got done, definitely burns a lot less oil but still burns about 2 - 3 quarts in between 5k oil changes which is not acceptable for a brand new truck. This problem started in 2018 when they switched to new plasma arc liners, 2017 and older 5.0 don’t burn oil from what I’ve seen. This engine also sounds like a diesel, making all sorts of chirping and ticking sounds which ford says is normal, I also have a problem with a rattle when letting of gas coming from the timing chain I believe, ford performed the TSB out for this still no fix. I’m now doing an oil consumption test and may be getting a new engine soon, really hope ford fixes this issue, sucks having a brand new truck that burns oil and sounds terrible and possibly needs a new engine.
@@nathann3144 Watch out.... if you get a new engine from Ford warranty... won't it have the same problem? I don't know why this issue isn't more understood... I would think a lot of Ford motor-head guys would have figured this out by now and demand Ford do something. Ford has to know what's going on... just won't own up. Good luck!
Lol... thought the same thing since every truck I have ever bought was a V8 until I test drove the V8 vs. the Ecoboost. Bought the Ecoboost....Wouldn't trade it for the 5.0 if you paid me... sorry.
" No need for a high maintenance eco boost" What extra maintenance does an ecoboost have that the coyote doesn't?
As an 18 year old in the field it makes me happy to see him talking to the younger guys like myself and asking their opinions which not many of my bosses have done
Because your opinion doesn’t matter when you’re 18. Every apprentice goes through it get over it
@@TheBooze13 say it louder for the princesses in the back! When you grow up you will understand why you weren't asked about your opinion on ANYTHING
A young man’s opinions are an old man’s regrets. 😆😆
You old timers need to get over yourselves. You fools are the ones that drove this country to the mess it's in and you think you're so smart. Please! No generation has a monopoly on good sense...or stupidity...or selfishness...or arrogance...and so on...
This comment section is dumb, ur opinion really matters just like anyone else in that room. Small minded people think that maturity and age are always related. Little do they know that I've met a 12 year old who thinks and speaks much better about every subject than a 32 year old. Yungins these days know a lot and even more than most adults. The times are crazy...them dudes in the comments are prolly boomers who think they know everything.
I’d still probably get the 2.7. Appreciate the honesty. I’ll be getting into a new F-150 before the end of the year and really appreciate this vid!!
Did you go with the 2.7? What’s your opinion so far?
@@jabariuswilliams9264 yeah i did, love it
@@user-fz3sz2dj4r cool. The 5.0 is hard the come by, and my research suggests the 2.7 over the 3.5 for my uses in that case. Appreciate the response!
@@jabariuswilliams9264 From what ive seen the 2.7 looks bulletproof dude. No major issues. Same block material as the power-strokes. Unless you're towing heavy definitely go with the 2.7. Phenomenal fuel econ too
@@user-fz3sz2dj4r yeah, I think you’ve pretty much summed it up!
I live in Oahu, Hawaii and own a 18' 3.5 EB. Been getting avg 20-21 mpg for a while now. Can't speak for any turbo issues being this is my first truck but i think it beats having to put in more extra work to maintain for that instant gratification. Love seeing those noisy vehicles in my rear view.
I mostly happy to see your techs are still around. Shows management is doing something right
Thank you for all the great content. I've owned a 2.7 and now have 3.5 F150. Absolutely love it. That being said I LOVE the 5.0 in my Roush Mustang.
Did the 2.7 work good for you?
Love my 2.7
I’ve always been a V-8 guy but I chose the 3.5 Eco for my first F150 new 2019. It pulls my boat like it’s not even there. Surprisingly quick, and incredible gas mileage. No issues whatsoever ... not a drop of oil consumed. For me it was a great choice. There’s no right or wrong engine - comes down to what you need ... that’s what’s great about the F150 - it’s not a one size fits all truck.
How is the 2019 3.5 holding up?
@@adambyers8010 light usage at 17k miles but it’s been great. I’ll probably keep it forever
@@myvalium1 what kinda MPG are you seeing? 4WD? What rear end ratio?
I also chose the 3.5l ecoboost. 2019 and this is the 1st time I own a ford truck. And when it comes to towing is blows my 2018 ram hemi away. This f150 3.5l doesn't even break a sweat. I have 38k miles on it and very pleased with it so far
If you are selling the 3.5L ecoboost before 50k miles, I doubt you will see problems, just wait till 80k and up for all the oil leaks to start. For reliability choose the V8 Coyote
I love the 3.5L EcoBoost. This is my second truck with the engine and it has been flawless and it gets great fuel economy and it has all the power you will need.
Wait until you get the $3k bill for the timing chain phasers.
@@HuskyKMA Dreading this repair.
HuskyKMA can you do cam phasers delete like on the 5.4 3v engines? I did that on mine and the engine runs flawless and sounds healthier.
Wait til you blow the exhaust manifolds.. lol. It’s got great power but don’t always trust that towing number they say. Especially if you’re towing a few times a month heavy 🙃
Wait until you have to change the water pump or timing guides......
It's almost 2023 - time to do this survey again - thanks for the great content! More helpful would also be specifics instead of "it's just a great engine"...as well as what issues each has.
We need a updated video!! I Wonder how this video will hold up on the new 2021 F150s the 5.0s with the nee belt driven oil pump and cylinder deactivation. I’d take the 3.5Ecoboost just for the more power alone now
I own a 2017 5.0, and I have had zero issues with the truck. Love it.
My 2017 Fx4 with 3.5 EB is my family everyday everywhere vehicle. I Love quite, don't want my truck sounding like a truck. From inside you can't hear or feel the engine running. I check the Stop - Start indicator to see if it's running. I Love this truck. My previous 2004 F150 had the 4.6 V8, no comparison. Happy with my choice.
Please ask the pros about diesel engines. Would you buy gas or diesel?
Depends for towing diesel for daily drive use a 5.0. Occasional Heavy loads a diesel the occasional dirt bikes or ATV or small trailer a 5.0. But a diesel will last longer either way.
Depends on what you're doing, if you do a lot of highway miles or tow a lot then go for the diesel for sure.
Bharath G yeah especially the towing you’d want a diesel
Unless you have money to burn buy gas. Diesels are great under warranty but too many other variables aka emissions stuff. Unless you're doing a ton of highway or country driving its not worth it.
@@jonnyg44 so diesels are not good for daily commuting?