I just bought a 2023 F150 Platinum and a 2023 F150 Tremor. Both have the 5.0's and my Platinum has the Whipple. I did the install myself. I am a retired Ford Senior Master technician that now teaches automotive technology at Lone Star College here in Conroe Texas. I waited 27 years to buy a new vehicle (my last new vehicle was a 1st gen Lightning) and somehow my wife let me get two!!! God is good and life is good! Great video sir.
How do y'all pick your projects for school? I have a 2000 f250 with the 2 valve 5.4. It has 316k on the original motor and transmission. Would like to pick your brain about an overhaul. I live in Conroe too.
Personally after owning 3.5, 5.0 and a 2.7. I like all but I think the most versatile engine is the 2.7. Reasonably good power. Can still tow, if properly equipped, and it gets great gas mileage. The other 2 were also good engines, the 2.7 just meets all my needs.
@@andrewk8636yes we have several in our fleet at work with over 300k on them with no very minimal issues... Biggest issue with them is oil leaks and purge valve going out... Other than that they are good
I have the 3.5 my son has the 5.0 We often meet at lights, he’s in my rear view each and every time, love my 3.5 Twin Turbo. I over maintain everything I own and have no issues.
That's nice, just one question, if the 3.5L EcoBoost is so good and wayyyyyyy more powerful, efficient, and reliable than the 5.0 then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as the base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
Why would Ford put an engine, that's specifically designed to go into a half ton truck.....into a 3/4 and 1 ton truck...? CJ that's a pretty dumb question
@@CJColvin Are you joking or being serious? Do you know anything about trucks, vehicle gross weight, payload, and towing? Doubt so. The 3.5 is a well proven engine by now, but all heavy/super duty trucks by Ford, GM, and Ram have distinct optional engines for ... Wait for it... Heavy/super duty applications.
You wouldn’t be able to do that with the 5.0 supercharged. You have turbos vs NA. Take the turbos off and then race the 5.0. Ecoboost is forced induction. Slap a supercharger or go twin turbo on the 5.0
I currently have a 2022 5.0 with 16500 miles and ordered it with 3.73 gears, I love everything about it and my current mpg 19.3 overall since the day I drove off the dealer lot. Considering I have driven the same route and style of driving for well over 30 years it well exceeds my previous Hemi of 15.5 mpg and silverado's 5.3 of 17 mpg . Love the coyote!
Lol,and wait until gasoline goes up to $10.00 per gallon which will be very soon. No ford engines last like they used to except for our 4.0 litre inline six cylinder engine that was made here in Australia. Show me any modern ford engine that has 400,000 miles on the odometer without any major mechanical problems? You can't because all of them are throw away engines and are made to only last just beyond the manufacturers warranty. I've seen old taxis and falcons at wreckers with 400,000 miles plus on them but these barra engines were made to last with good quality components. Look at a modern day engine-so much bs plastic on them it's ridiculous, no wonder they don't last very long and it's not just ford engines-that goes for the majority of new engines these days,they are not made to last and the quality isn't there.
@@MEDCANWhitewidowmaybe in your country, but the US national average is still around $3.50. Also there’s plenty of vehicles going well past their warranty, capable of going 200-250K miles which would take 10-15 years depending on how much you’re driving. Most people don’t keep their vehicles that long. Also, Australia does not have the strict carbon emissions that the US has. That’s why the American Ford Ranger does not have the nice 4-cylinder diesel that the Australian Ranger has. The engines here are forced to have all these emissions control and fuel saving tech that shortens the life span of the engines or just flat out will not work on other engines.
Dude my 5.0 3.73 f150 gets about 14mpg with mixed driving. Sure the bs milage meter will tell me otherwise, but if youre smart enough to do hand calculations youll realize youre being lied to. Im suprised you bought into it actually😂
@@rryan81 you have a valid point there, I never checked my own calculations, will look into it but it is worth noting that I most definitely buy less fuel than I did with my Hemi so probably the Ram was misleading about 15 MPG as well, also I have had it in economy mode for a year now since my youngest daughter started driving as it is much smoother shifting like a ram with no loss of power so could be part of gain in milage as well. Either way I still love the truck. 👍
I have a 15’ 2.7 with 80k mi. Pulled heavy trailers no problem. So far no engine failure. Changed plugs at 75k and all still looked real gd. I’m just thankful that we have a gd variety of motors to choose from.
I never wanted a 2.7 ecoboost because i thought trucks had to have V8s lol but i ran across the perfect truck great price low miles with a 2.7 so i researched them and bought it and could not be happier!!! What I think is a lot of guys like me are reluctant to go with such a small displacement motor and we're all V8 guys but after driving that 2.7 it'll Stomp most V8 it will even walk a coyote for a few block. Crazy these small displacement turbo motors are making more torque and horsepower than the V8s of long ago.
I have had the 2.7 and a couple of 3.5's ,the 2.7 was absolutely amazing given it's size.I'm not a v8 guy so I think if buying new the 2.7 for me,although that PowerBoost impresses me as well
@@AT-wl9yq you might not say that about the 2nd gen either. Theres a reason I went 3.5. If you get a good 2nd 5.0, youd better be damn thankful. The newer ones, hell to the no.
I've got a 21 5.0L with 3.73 gears. It is the most fun truck to drive that I've ever owned. I put a Borla S-Type on it and the character and feedback I get out of the V8 with that exhaust system is amazing with ZERO drone. I love the 5.0L V8 performance and sound!
That's great, though I do have one question, if the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is so good, extremely powerful, extremely fuel efficient, and very dead reliable, then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s as the base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
@CJColvin that's simple, it's called a duty cycle. Think of a welder, yes it's powerful but it wouldn't hold up to 24 hr all day abuse like a 6.8 or 7.3. Buy the way 5.0 wouldn't hold up to it either.
5.0 all the way. I have a 2013 with 180,00+ miles. Very dependable and bulletproof if maintained properly. Plenty of power and still over 18mpg running 80 down the interstate.
@@BrianBourgeois- It's not super rare. There is a bulletin out on it for those years. My friend runs a local machine shop that repaired mine. He says they are coming in like clockwork for this issue. Literally as I dropped mine off to get done, they were just finishing another guys with the same problem. Inferior metal was used for the intake valves and they updated the part at the tail end of 2013. Mine shouldn't even have been affected being a November built 2014. I was down to 50 PSI on Cyl 8. 70 PSI on Cyl 4. Those ones were worn so bad, to a razor edge i could cut paper with them. Every single other valve in my motor was worn but not as bad at the rear two cylinders. I have pictures with the heads off. They think above the issue with the valve material there is a lack of cooling to the rear two cylinders and that's why they wear out first.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 there is a bulletin for any problem that has every happened to any vehicle. I'm sure they do come in like clockwork they made 1 million of them and where else would they go get valve work done. Walmart?
351k miles on my 2015 F150 with the Coyote 5.0 V8... Legit nothing but a couple of tune-ups and oil changes since new. Still running the original coil packs, alternator, A/C system, and belts/hoses. It doesn't burn oil, and still has as much power as the day it came new off the lot from Davis Ford Sales in Fulton, Ms! LOVE my F150 V8!
Awesome brother gotta love the 5.0L Coyote V8, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
@jamesrhyne7894 Mostly 7-10k mile changes on synthetic oil... I will say that while using the factory spec 5w20 oil it runs fine, but it seems noisier at idle. So I now run full synthetic Rotella 5w40, which makes it idle smooth and quiet, and the fuel mileage didn't change at all surprisingly. I've been running the thicker oil for about the last 100k miles with no issues. I do, however, ONLY use a Motorcraft oil filter. The cheap aftermarket filters can make it tick at start-up after sitting overnight. But I've never had that issue running a Ford Motorcraft filter.
I had a 2018 XLT with a 5.0 and I currently have a 2021 King Ranch with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I've liked both to be honest. My 2010 Lariat had the 5.4 and it was solid as well. My 1997 F250 with the 7.3L Turbo was one of a kind however.
My 2012 5.0 300k and never a problem! I have rebuilt the front suspension at 260k due to to worn out parts but for a truck I tow daily a 10k trailer, it’s been the best money I have spent!
I have a small Service business and own 3 F-150’s and an Expedition. Different motor in each vehicle. In the F-150’s 3.3, 2.7, and 5.0. The Expedition has the 3.5. I have no complaints about any of these engine options. My favorite all around motor is the 3.5. Love the low end torque. The 5.0 is by far better sounding and top end is strong. The 2.7 is very impressive if you don’t need to tow heavy. The 3.3 service its purpose if you want to save cash and stick with a 2wd. If I’m buying a new F-150 it would have the 3.5 eco boost.
I think both the 5.0 and the 3.5 Ecoboost are very reliable. Less they can go wrong on the Coyote but still I would get either. Lots of times the sound of the 5.0 is the reason it’s the winner.
3.5 doesn’t get enough love, I own one and it’s been amazing. Nice power, love the turbos spooling up, just get yourself a catch can added and your golden.
3.5 tends to get all the love. All the reviews of the f150 have the eco boost the truck. I get the feeling ford wants to push the eco boost but the guys who work on them know what’s best!
With 250k miles on my 1st gen 3.5 ecoboost (2011 F-150) , I feel like it's plenty reliable. It's got plenty of power and it's been bulletproof! My 2021 Bronco 2.7 has 80k miles on it, totally reliable. Without a supercharger, the 5.0 gets dusted by the 3.5 ecoboost. I pulled my turbos at 230k, to replace an exhaust gasket, and they looked damn near new.
@@petros13A depends on the application and the specific turbo... Also a lot depends on the maintenance of the vehicle. Oil changes need to be more frequent than Ford recommends and they need high quality oil, not just whatever you get at the oil change place... And I have seen my share of shenanigans at oil/lube shops. They tried that on my last oil change when I specifically requested mobil one full synthetic and I caught them pumping some random crap into my truck... Made them empty it and put the right oil in.
@@mpeugeot regular maintenance and a good synthetic are key for keeping them that way. 2015 3.5., Mobil One every 3-5k for 130k so far and Im golden. Its seen both coasts a couple times, been through -50 degree blizzards in MT to well over a hundred in the deep southern states. No issues. This truck has surprised me more often than not.
Had. 2015 mustang with the 5.0 90k miles. Beat the heck out of it. The only thing i had to do to it was change the oil and filters. Bullet proof! Got 15mpg average which is better than i get on my 2016 ford fusion 1.5L turbo 4 cylinder currently averaging 14mpg.
Great video, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
There is no replacement for displacement. The guy that wanted a Lighting never had to drive where cold weather cuts range dramatically, and he really likes his golf cart. Kinda the same.
2.7 been good to me 135k on it had since new and never been in shop well blow off valve leaked at 120k so I did swap a $50 part. But that's it so far. And I think it can take a 5.0 off the line cause the 2.7l spools really quick in sport mode. At least when I bought in 16 it was one of the fast 0 to 60 stock trucks
@@66skateThey are mostly the same engine. The Coyote 5.0L engine is a DOHC (dual overhead cam) engine that replaced the pushrod 5.0L. It has many features that improve performance over the pushrod engine, including: Variable valve timing Higher compression Aluminum block High flow heads High flow composite intake Tuned stainless steel exhaust manifold
Just hit over 100K on my 2013 platinum 4x4 4dr 3.5 eco poop. Runs like a top, have a slide in pop up camper with a boat or four-wheeler behind her in tow. Here in Montana she sure gets a workout and with the turbos their great in the higher elevations. My best and only advice is to change the fluids on 3.5 on time, every time.
Same. I brought mine to MT from the East Coast and it performed way better in altitude. The problem there in MT is if you need anything done. Two weeks to a month to even get in a garage at most places. For regular maintenance too. That and finding housing is ridiculous up there.
I ordered a new F150 about 3 weeks ago. I went 5.0. Reason I went F150 was they were the only manufacturer now that offers a regular cab, short box, v8 configuration. I was actually hoping to get a Chevy with a 6.2L, but GM only offers the 5.3L on regular cab, and that is only with long box. Regular cab are a dying breed.
I would stay with my 2014 6.2 in my Raptor with my Corsa exhaust and cold air intake and super chip tuner . I traded in my 2017 super cab 4X4 with the 3.5 ecoboost after I had to have the cam Fazer and time chain torn down at 25,000 and agin at 43.000 the sound or the 6.2 all ways puts A smile on my face !
Just sold my 2016 3.5eco and it was absolutely awesome and reliable as it gets. I bought a 2021 5.0L and we shall see how this truck holds up. Initial impressions are very positive as it drives very good and sounds like some American muscle. I don’t notice the cylinder deactivation at all but going to be going with an aftermarket exhaust next week.
I got a gen 2 coyote out of a procharged 2015 mustang. It spun a bearing and I bought it for 600 bucks. It’s got built parts from MMR. Looking forward to dropping it into an SN95….
5.0Ls are easy to maintain and don't have as bad as phaser issues and the 3.5 has timing problems as well. Not to mention this comparison of power comparing an NA truck to a forced induced truck. We can make it a fair comparison and put the same 14 psi of boost and turbos on the coyote, and it will have a lot more power.
If it’s 3.5 all day then why do you think they made the Raptor R? 3.5 is tapped out for reliable power. Plus no one wants a minivan sound coming out of their performance vehicle.
@@jonathanroberson122 well yes it does but to counter that argument, the 5.0 has 2 more cylinders. So there really is no disadvantage between the two, same goes with other half-ton V8s. Plus we’re talking factory vs factory. The moment you put a super on the 5.0 or bigger turbos on the 3.5, it’s no longer factory.
@@robmd3851Raptor R was made in response to the TRX. Both vehicles are over the top pavement princesses. You don’t need 700 hp to go 110 mph off-road when a 400 hp motor can do the same. You will be limited by range. All that money for an occasional romp in the desert with a vehicle that’s lucky to get 10-11 mpg on the highway. If they offered a NA 5.0 in the Raptor, I guarantee that will outsell any other off-road truck on the market.
@@jaysson1151 exactly, they couldn’t make a 3.5 or larger ecoboost V6 compete. The 3.5 like all of the other turbo eco setups were designed to make the EPA + CAFE happy.
I asked the Ford techs in Raleigh NC the same question 10 years ago. Same answer as the video. The ecoboost is a great motor for towing but don’t own one outside of the warranty. I’ve blown them up with under 50k miles. 5.0 more reliable and sounds better too.
I actually thought they'd all say 2.7 TT. I have the 5 liter in a 19 regular cab 2wd and the MPG readings are shockingly high. Under ideal conditions (65F, no wind, going from about 50 to 60mph) I set out from Chicago to Volo IL (about 40 miles) and pulled into the destination with the DIC reading 32mpg. It knocks and emits white oil smoke. Dealer said it's normal...we'll see!
Had a 2006 5.4 had 250k on it when I traded it in. Have a 2014 with the 5.0 now. Only reason I would go to the ecoboost is if I were buying a raptor. If it's another non-raptor, I'd still go with 5.0.
I have a ‘21 Powerboost and have driven a friends 5.0. I really missed the torque and acceleration when driving the 5.0. I trade every 4 years When I get to 50k miles, so longevity is secondary to fun.
I'm not sure how many generations the EB has, but the F-150 can be found with Gen 1-3 Coyote 5.0 engines based on what year you purchase. I personally would not get an F-150 with a Gen 1 coyote. My Gen 1 coyote spun a rod bearing in my 2012 Mustang GT at 120K miles. I changed the oil every 3-5K mikes so there were no extended mileage oil changes. I'm very particular about my maintenance and I only use quality oil. I also do the oil changes myself to make sure that it's done right and that the old oil gets drained out as much as possible. I'm in the process now of putting a Gen 3 short block with my Gen 1 heads, cams, and a 2018 intake back into my mustang. You cannot use Gen 3 heads on your Gen 1-2 Coyote trucks, you can use the short block though. The first run of Gen 3 engines had some bad oil consumpsion issues and spray bore liner flaking, so I would also not get a first year Gen 3 truck. They seem to have fixed those issues in the latest trucks. To me the best 5.0 Coyote truck you can get would be one that has the Gen 2 motor (2015-2017) and 6R80 Transmission. The heads are better flowing than Gen 1, they have a stout rotating assembly, and they do not have direct injection. Gen 2 Coyotes are sought after in the mustang community, and bring a higher premium.
I have the 2016 3.5 EB with a tune, lots of power and so far at 65k has been trouble free. I have 2 tunes, one for towing and a performance tune, both are more power than I'll ever need. I do like the sound of the 5.0's though
After wrecking my F350 needed a replacement. Since I no longer needed a diesel, went with a lightly used F150 with 3.5EB. Great gas mileage (NY State, that helps the wallet pain) and with the optional towing package, has been a fantastic truck. Do I miss a 5.0 - yes and no since I've had them in the past but reality has set in for MY NEEDS.
I owned 2 Roush trucks with the 5.0 one was supercharged. Went with the Raptor high output and a Limited with the 3.5 ecoboost and haven’t looked back.
Bought a 2012 F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost, after watching the Mike Rowe torture test vid and also test driving one with a 5.0 which had less torque and power. Have 180K on the original 3.5L engine and transmission. Sold my previous 5.0 F150 with 225K miles after it started blowing plugs. Also had several other Mustangs and Crown Vic's with the 5.0 and they have all been great engines. Current goal is to see if if I can hit 300K on my 3.5L. If Ford offered an affordable F150 with a Supercharged 5.0 I'd get that instead too.
Wish Ford still offered the 3.0L Diesel. I switched to Chevy after being an exclusive ford buyer for more than a decade (including for my business). I get almost 30mpg and with 460 lb/ft of torque it can tow/haul everything we need for our business and it barely drops in mpg.
Part of me does think a Tremor with a 5.0L, and adding the supercharger and maybe some aftermarket shocks, would be like 75%-80% a Raptor R for 60% the money.
@aggiewoodie What's the point of a lifted truck with all that power? I drove my brothers roush charged f-150, and I found the power to be useless. Rear wheels would just spin. Of course you can control the throttle to prevent spinning, but at that point it's not fast anymore.
Great topic and great answers! Is Ford making fewer V8 F150's and "forcing" Ecoboost engines on buyers? I ask because my local ford dealers very very rarely have a 5.0V8 in an F150. Nearly every truck has the 2.7 or 3.5 EcoBoost.
I’ve been renting F1 50s to see which one I like best. the 50 or the 3.5. I’ve spent a week in both trucks. I put roughly 1500 miles on both trucks. Driving all over the metroplex. Lots of city and plenty of highway time. The 3.5 was faster. Great torque, maybe more than my tundra. I was able to whip through traffic. Cruse at 100 miles an hour on the highway. It was a fun truck. I love the sounds and the feel of the 5.0. You can feel the engine. You’ve got to get those RPMs up to really move. If you time it just right, you can whip through traffic about the same. Average miles per gallon we’re both around 19. Mpg 19.1 - 5.0 2023 37,000 miles Mpg 18.7 - 3.5 2023 under 10,000 miles I am leaning towards the 5.0 the feel of the engine and the sound. I might have to put turbos or supercharger on it. To wake it up a little. If I can get the torque up close to the 3.5. it’ll be a perfect truck. There’s my two cents ✌️
Last year when I was on the hunt for a new truck, the salesman kept insisting that I should get a 3.5 Ecoboost. I told him that I wasn't interested in any f150 that didn't have the 5.0 in it. He looked at me like I was crazy. Since the guys there weren't willing to work with me, I left that place and now I'm the proud owner of a fully loaded 6.7 Powerstroke.
I think it is interesting how the dealerships are possibly trained to sell the 3.5 eco boost. Yet most people are very happy with the 5.0 and Ford sill pushes the eco boost!
I guess this really depends on what you do with it and what type of person you are. If you want max power and are willing to modify 5.0 all the way, it is bigger and has more capacity for power, if you leave it alone and want the highest factory power level 3.5 ecoboost, want the base engine properly 2.7.
5.0 use to be a good engine but after my last one 2019, no one can explain at the dealer where all the oil they put in the engine go! And this is after the update where they put a bigger dip stick on it. Also both cat converters was down and no check engine light on.
Just purchased a powerboost switch from a 3.5 eco regular v6 definitely drives different. Scared to throw on a lift , tires and wheels. Hoping it doesn’t mess with the hybrid wearing it down
As a mechanic i was not sure of the 3.5 but they have been around long enough now. Seem to be a good high milage engine with minimal repairs. Tow very well and have great milage. I was never on board with that engine until sever mechanic friends of mine had them.
Took my truck to the dealership, 2017 (5.0) for some brake work. Talked to another customer who was in for a new water pump on his 2016 (5.0)…..242k miles on the original pump.
Personally i love a 5.7 triton that has been properly done. All the oil pathways bored out, upgraded mellings oil pump and chain tensioners... with that we have 2 1999 lariat's still running strong. Thing is a workhorse and with heads and an exhaust it was the best sound IMO.
The issue with naturally aspirated engines (although I love the 5.0 coyote and the toyota 5.7 v8) is high altitude driving. The turbocharger helps with pumping air into the cylinders.
I have a 2018 F150 5.0 FX4 Supercrew w/3.55 gears, and I've only run 93 or E85 in it. Here's what I can tell you. It's not that strong down low, but respectable. Where it really shines is up top. You put your foot down and be patient for a moment, and then just hold on because it's about to start pulling like a freight train. The top end on this engine is just fantastic. Add a quality tune with some E85 and it will really surprise you. For the record, I also have a 2017 Mustang GT 5.0 Coyote with a whipple SC...around 800hp...those coyotes really go crazy with some boost. All that being said, I am about to trade in my 5.0 F150 for a 2023 Powerboost to try a different flavor. I think it's pretty much proven at this point. No bad engine choices for the F150 right now.
My ‘20 5.0 lost compression in cyl 2 with only 33k miles! Traded it for a ‘23 with the 3.5eco. The 5.0 wasn’t an option with the cylinder deactivation! And that 500 torque puts a smile on my face every time 😆
My 2018 5.0 has 67,000 miles on the body with four different engines so far the first 3 were due to oil consumption there wouldn’t be any oil left on the dipstick after 5,000 miles this last one had misfiring on 2 cylinders and random misfiring on all the others they were going to try and repair this engine until they looked at the cylinder wall’s it was beyond repair
@@CJColvin absolutely it will l! Look up ecoboost torture testing. And it’s aluminum body will not rot out like the old ones did! Plus the 20MPG in a crew cab 4X4 with 400HP & 500TQ! Yeah, I have no doubt it will.!
@@CJColvin I had a 95 flare side I know from experience.. the firewall, door jam pinch welds & body mounts rot out fast! Not to mention the AOD transmission problems!
I bought my whipple from TC customs. So obviously my answer is call Colton and order a whipple for your 5.0 and hurt some trx feelings
Streetspeed raced a 5.0 with a whipple against a trx and the trx won
5.0 responds well to boost.
Haha the trx will easily win in its stock form.😂
@@fireant1272hahah you probably don’t have either
What does it cost to throw on a Whipple? Can a guy do it himself or does it need to be done in-shop for tuning?
I just bought a 2023 F150 Platinum and a 2023 F150 Tremor. Both have the 5.0's and my Platinum has the Whipple. I did the install myself. I am a retired Ford Senior Master technician that now teaches automotive technology at Lone Star College here in Conroe Texas. I waited 27 years to buy a new vehicle (my last new vehicle was a 1st gen Lightning) and somehow my wife let me get two!!! God is good and life is good! Great video sir.
Shout out for Conroe! Best kept secret in S TX!
How do y'all pick your projects for school? I have a 2000 f250 with the 2 valve 5.4. It has 316k on the original motor and transmission. Would like to pick your brain about an overhaul. I live in Conroe too.
Wife is good too
I have a 6.2L 11 F150, I would certainly get a 5.0L for my next Truck!
Hey, you selling that first gen lightning?
Personally after owning 3.5, 5.0 and a 2.7. I like all but I think the most versatile engine is the 2.7. Reasonably good power. Can still tow, if properly equipped, and it gets great gas mileage. The other 2 were also good engines, the 2.7 just meets all my needs.
I loved my 2.7
But will it hold up to 300k miles?
V8 always
@@andrewk8636 I coworker has one that has 275K and only thing he’s done is prescribed maintenance. Drives it 200 miles a day round trip to work
@@andrewk8636yes we have several in our fleet at work with over 300k on them with no very minimal issues... Biggest issue with them is oil leaks and purge valve going out... Other than that they are good
I have the 3.5 my son has the 5.0
We often meet at lights, he’s in my rear view each and every time, love my 3.5 Twin Turbo.
I over maintain everything I own and have no issues.
Now put a twin turbo on the 5.0. Stock for stock the 5.0 wins every aspect
That's nice, just one question, if the 3.5L EcoBoost is so good and wayyyyyyy more powerful, efficient, and reliable than the 5.0 then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as the base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
Why would Ford put an engine, that's specifically designed to go into a half ton truck.....into a 3/4 and 1 ton truck...?
CJ that's a pretty dumb question
@@CJColvin
Are you joking or being serious?
Do you know anything about trucks, vehicle gross weight, payload, and towing?
Doubt so.
The 3.5 is a well proven engine by now, but all heavy/super duty trucks by Ford, GM, and Ram have distinct optional engines for ...
Wait for it...
Heavy/super duty applications.
You wouldn’t be able to do that with the 5.0 supercharged. You have turbos vs NA. Take the turbos off and then race the 5.0. Ecoboost is forced induction. Slap a supercharger or go twin turbo on the 5.0
I currently have a 2022 5.0 with 16500 miles and ordered it with 3.73 gears, I love everything about it and my current mpg 19.3 overall since the day I drove off the dealer lot. Considering I have driven the same route and style of driving for well over 30 years it well exceeds my previous Hemi of 15.5 mpg and silverado's 5.3 of 17 mpg . Love the coyote!
Very nice! What kind of mpg are you seeing when on the interstate?
Lol,and wait until gasoline goes up to $10.00 per gallon which will be very soon. No ford engines last like they used to except for our 4.0 litre inline six cylinder engine that was made here in Australia. Show me any modern ford engine that has 400,000 miles on the odometer without any major mechanical problems? You can't because all of them are throw away engines and are made to only last just beyond the manufacturers warranty. I've seen old taxis and falcons at wreckers with 400,000 miles plus on them but these barra engines were made to last with good quality components. Look at a modern day engine-so much bs plastic on them it's ridiculous, no wonder they don't last very long and it's not just ford engines-that goes for the majority of new engines these days,they are not made to last and the quality isn't there.
@@MEDCANWhitewidowmaybe in your country, but the US national average is still around $3.50. Also there’s plenty of vehicles going well past their warranty, capable of going 200-250K miles which would take 10-15 years depending on how much you’re driving. Most people don’t keep their vehicles that long. Also, Australia does not have the strict carbon emissions that the US has. That’s why the American Ford Ranger does not have the nice 4-cylinder diesel that the Australian Ranger has. The engines here are forced to have all these emissions control and fuel saving tech that shortens the life span of the engines or just flat out will not work on other engines.
Dude my 5.0 3.73 f150 gets about 14mpg with mixed driving. Sure the bs milage meter will tell me otherwise, but if youre smart enough to do hand calculations youll realize youre being lied to. Im suprised you bought into it actually😂
@@rryan81 you have a valid point there, I never checked my own calculations, will look into it but it is worth noting that I most definitely buy less fuel than I did with my Hemi so probably the Ram was misleading about 15 MPG as well, also I have had it in economy mode for a year now since my youngest daughter started driving as it is much smoother shifting like a ram with no loss of power so could be part of gain in milage as well. Either way I still love the truck. 👍
I have a 2020 5.0. I’m pretty happy with it. Not a huge fan of the transmission but it’s fine. I’m glad I got in before the cylinder deactivation.
I have a 15’ 2.7 with 80k mi. Pulled heavy trailers no problem. So far no engine failure. Changed plugs at 75k and all still looked real gd. I’m just thankful that we have a gd variety of motors to choose from.
I never wanted a 2.7 ecoboost because i thought trucks had to have V8s lol but i ran across the perfect truck great price low miles with a 2.7 so i researched them and bought it and could not be happier!!! What I think is a lot of guys like me are reluctant to go with such a small displacement motor and we're all V8 guys but after driving that 2.7 it'll Stomp most V8 it will even walk a coyote for a few block. Crazy these small displacement turbo motors are making more torque and horsepower than the V8s of long ago.
I have a 22’ Space White XLT with the 5.0. It is my pride and joy. So glad I chose that motor.
Great choice! I'm ordering a Lariat this week Star White metallic with the 5.0
I have had the 2.7 and a couple of 3.5's ,the 2.7 was absolutely amazing given it's size.I'm not a v8 guy so I think if buying new the 2.7 for me,although that PowerBoost impresses me as well
I like the 6.2 Boss motor in my 2011 Raptor. Lots of power, loves to be tuned and has incredible acceleration.
I can vouch for 5.0 reliability! My 2015 has 295K miles on it and counting :)
That’s awesome!
That is impressive. Ive got the 3.5, same year, at 130k. No issues here either though. Maintenance is key. Never neglect maintenance.
Just to be clear, you would vouch for a 2nd gen 5.0, because that's the version in your truck. You might not say that about one of the new ones.
@@AT-wl9yq you might not say that about the 2nd gen either. Theres a reason I went 3.5. If you get a good 2nd 5.0, youd better be damn thankful. The newer ones, hell to the no.
I’m right there with you 2017 and I’m at 140k plus or minus
I've got a 21 5.0L with 3.73 gears. It is the most fun truck to drive that I've ever owned. I put a Borla S-Type on it and the character and feedback I get out of the V8 with that exhaust system is amazing with ZERO drone. I love the 5.0L V8 performance and sound!
I would like the 5.0. I have the 2.7 currently. Had a 4.6 before that.
I’ve come to appreciate the quiet after having it for 3 years.
I have the 5.0 F150 2021, so I agree with most of the service dep.👍
I will get the 3.5 EcoBoost all day long! It is an amazing engine & it is very reliable.
Agreed! Have owned 2 of them and put over 150k miles on them with zero issues.
I've had 4 neighbors all need new Ecoboosts on their brand new f150s/raptors
That's great, though I do have one question, if the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is so good, extremely powerful, extremely fuel efficient, and very dead reliable, then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s as the base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
@@Globbs Mr globes, I'm gonna have to call bull crap on your rather tall tale
@CJColvin that's simple, it's called a duty cycle. Think of a welder, yes it's powerful but it wouldn't hold up to 24 hr all day abuse like a 6.8 or 7.3. Buy the way 5.0 wouldn't hold up to it either.
Wow hands down everyone’s wanting the legendary 5.0
I would assume the mechanics prefer to work on the V8, probably easier
@@nebaldeby5369or maybe they chose it because they don't want to work on it.
@@lugnut6981 touche’
Yep you got it brother
5.0 all the way. I have a 2013 with 180,00+ miles. Very dependable and bulletproof if maintained properly. Plenty of power and still over 18mpg running 80 down the interstate.
Except for the inferior valves from 2011-2014. Ask me how I know lol
@@evictioncarpentry2628 that was super rare. Let me guess? Misfire on cylinder 8 that wasn’t solved with plug or coil.
@@BrianBourgeois- It's not super rare. There is a bulletin out on it for those years. My friend runs a local machine shop that repaired mine. He says they are coming in like clockwork for this issue. Literally as I dropped mine off to get done, they were just finishing another guys with the same problem.
Inferior metal was used for the intake valves and they updated the part at the tail end of 2013. Mine shouldn't even have been affected being a November built 2014.
I was down to 50 PSI on Cyl 8. 70 PSI on Cyl 4. Those ones were worn so bad, to a razor edge i could cut paper with them. Every single other valve in my motor was worn but not as bad at the rear two cylinders. I have pictures with the heads off.
They think above the issue with the valve material there is a lack of cooling to the rear two cylinders and that's why they wear out first.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 there is a bulletin for any problem that has every happened to any vehicle. I'm sure they do come in like clockwork they made 1 million of them and where else would they go get valve work done. Walmart?
@@evictioncarpentry2628 This is why I got my used 11 with a 6.2L. Runs like top, already put 50K its well over 200K.
351k miles on my 2015 F150 with the Coyote 5.0 V8... Legit nothing but a couple of tune-ups and oil changes since new. Still running the original coil packs, alternator, A/C system, and belts/hoses. It doesn't burn oil, and still has as much power as the day it came new off the lot from Davis Ford Sales in Fulton, Ms! LOVE my F150 V8!
What oil do you run in your 5.0
Awesome brother gotta love the 5.0L Coyote V8, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
@jamesrhyne7894 Mostly 7-10k mile changes on synthetic oil... I will say that while using the factory spec 5w20 oil it runs fine, but it seems noisier at idle. So I now run full synthetic Rotella 5w40, which makes it idle smooth and quiet, and the fuel mileage didn't change at all surprisingly. I've been running the thicker oil for about the last 100k miles with no issues. I do, however, ONLY use a Motorcraft oil filter. The cheap aftermarket filters can make it tick at start-up after sitting overnight. But I've never had that issue running a Ford Motorcraft filter.
I had a 2018 XLT with a 5.0 and I currently have a 2021 King Ranch with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I've liked both to be honest. My 2010 Lariat had the 5.4 and it was solid as well. My 1997 F250 with the 7.3L Turbo was one of a kind however.
They don’t make ‘em like your 97 F250 anymore. I love those OBS Fords
So true. I had a 2000 7.3 super duty. It was the best engine. BULLET PROOF. It could haul your house.
@@AG-rk5hj It's a good thing too, because those 6-0 leakers were horrible!
which is your favorite?
My F-150 with a 4.9L straight 6 was awesome, went 280K with no major repairs. Plus it could pull stumps out of the ground without a sweat.
What failed on your 4.9 300 ?
My 2012 5.0 300k and never a problem! I have rebuilt the front suspension at 260k due to to worn out parts but for a truck I tow daily a 10k trailer, it’s been the best money I have spent!
I have a small Service business and own 3 F-150’s and an Expedition. Different motor in each vehicle. In the F-150’s 3.3, 2.7, and 5.0. The Expedition has the 3.5. I have no complaints about any of these engine options. My favorite all around motor is the 3.5. Love the low end torque. The 5.0 is by far better sounding and top end is strong. The 2.7 is very impressive if you don’t need to tow heavy. The 3.3 service its purpose if you want to save cash and stick with a 2wd. If I’m buying a new F-150 it would have the 3.5 eco boost.
I guess I made a good choice when I bought my 5.0 21 Plat. I love the power too.
I think both the 5.0 and the 3.5 Ecoboost are very reliable. Less they can go wrong on the Coyote but still I would get either. Lots of times the sound of the 5.0 is the reason it’s the winner.
Haha my 3.5 EcoBoost was all but reliable!😂
Yep, for me I chose the 5.0L Coyote V8 over the EcoBoost V6 anyday
5.0 all day, every day! My 2011 has 162000 mi and runs like it's brand new!
3.5 doesn’t get enough love, I own one and it’s been amazing. Nice power, love the turbos spooling up, just get yourself a catch can added and your golden.
3.5 tends to get all the love. All the reviews of the f150 have the eco boost the truck. I get the feeling ford wants to push the eco boost but the guys who work on them know what’s best!
Exactly mate
With 250k miles on my 1st gen 3.5 ecoboost (2011 F-150) , I feel like it's plenty reliable. It's got plenty of power and it's been bulletproof! My 2021 Bronco 2.7 has 80k miles on it, totally reliable. Without a supercharger, the 5.0 gets dusted by the 3.5 ecoboost.
I pulled my turbos at 230k, to replace an exhaust gasket, and they looked damn near new.
You got these great numbers because you know when to change oil and use quality brand.
@@matthewholzmueller6292 absolutely. Mobil One Full Synthetic changed every 3,500-5000 miles depending on the type of driving.
Two turbos went on my 2014 explorer sport at 160k km. I would stay away from them. I personally know 3 others with the same problems. Good luck
@@petros13A depends on the application and the specific turbo... Also a lot depends on the maintenance of the vehicle. Oil changes need to be more frequent than Ford recommends and they need high quality oil, not just whatever you get at the oil change place... And I have seen my share of shenanigans at oil/lube shops. They tried that on my last oil change when I specifically requested mobil one full synthetic and I caught them pumping some random crap into my truck... Made them empty it and put the right oil in.
@@mpeugeot regular maintenance and a good synthetic are key for keeping them that way. 2015 3.5., Mobil One every 3-5k for 130k so far and Im golden. Its seen both coasts a couple times, been through -50 degree blizzards in MT to well over a hundred in the deep southern states. No issues. This truck has surprised me more often than not.
1986 F150 with a blown 4.9L, 4 gear.
Going with either a 4.3 or an LS. Both are reliable abundant and cheap.
I’ve had both the 3.5 gen 1 and 2.7 gen 2 with 122k on the 2.7. Both have been flawless. Will go with another after this.
I have an 18 3.5 and have had some issues with it. Thinking about switching to the 5.0
Saw similar video from y'all in 2019 and chose the 5.0 for my F-150. Very happy with the decision!
Had. 2015 mustang with the 5.0 90k miles. Beat the heck out of it. The only thing i had to do to it was change the oil and filters. Bullet proof! Got 15mpg average which is better than i get on my 2016 ford fusion 1.5L turbo 4 cylinder currently averaging 14mpg.
Great video, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
I have a 2015 F150 with the 5.0 engine and had for 8 years…great truck and love it
There is no replacement for displacement. The guy that wanted a Lighting never had to drive where cold weather cuts range dramatically, and he really likes his golf cart. Kinda the same.
I can vouch for the 3.5 ecoboost. My 2016 navigator has 450k miles and still strong, original everything
2.7 been good to me 135k on it had since new and never been in shop well blow off valve leaked at 120k so I did swap a $50 part. But that's it so far. And I think it can take a 5.0 off the line cause the 2.7l spools really quick in sport mode. At least when I bought in 16 it was one of the fast 0 to 60 stock trucks
My 2014 5.0 has 215K on it. Runs like the day I bought it.
Today's 5.O isn't 2014's 5.O. That's why it isn't the best choice today.
@@66skateThey are mostly the same engine. The Coyote 5.0L
engine is a DOHC (dual overhead cam) engine that replaced the pushrod 5.0L. It has many features that improve performance over the pushrod engine, including:
Variable valve timing
Higher compression
Aluminum block
High flow heads
High flow composite intake
Tuned stainless steel exhaust manifold
Just hit over 100K on my 2013 platinum 4x4 4dr 3.5 eco poop. Runs like a top, have a slide in pop up camper with a boat or four-wheeler behind her in tow. Here in Montana she sure gets a workout and with the turbos their great in the higher elevations. My best and only advice is to change the fluids on 3.5 on time, every time.
Same. I brought mine to MT from the East Coast and it performed way better in altitude. The problem there in MT is if you need anything done. Two weeks to a month to even get in a garage at most places. For regular maintenance too. That and finding housing is ridiculous up there.
Besides changing the oil, what other fluids needs to be changed?
My 2017 2.7L XLT has been bullet proof so far. It is fast and nimble at 52k.
I ordered a new F150 about 3 weeks ago. I went 5.0. Reason I went F150 was they were the only manufacturer now that offers a regular cab, short box, v8 configuration. I was actually hoping to get a Chevy with a 6.2L, but GM only offers the 5.3L on regular cab, and that is only with long box. Regular cab are a dying breed.
I like your style. That’s what I would order also.
In 2020 I bought a like new 2017 F150 with 5.0l. It is much simpler than the turbo engines. Three years later have had zero problems.
I would stay with my 2014 6.2 in my Raptor with my Corsa exhaust and cold air intake and super chip tuner . I traded in my 2017 super cab 4X4 with the 3.5 ecoboost after I had to have the cam Fazer and time chain torn down at 25,000 and agin at 43.000 the sound or the 6.2 all ways puts A smile on my face !
Just sold my 2016 3.5eco and it was absolutely awesome and reliable as it gets. I bought a 2021 5.0L and we shall see how this truck holds up. Initial impressions are very positive as it drives very good and sounds like some American muscle. I don’t notice the cylinder deactivation at all but going to be going with an aftermarket exhaust next week.
I got a gen 2 coyote out of a procharged 2015 mustang. It spun a bearing and I bought it for 600 bucks. It’s got built parts from MMR. Looking forward to dropping it into an SN95….
If and when the 7.3 diesel goes out on mine... Well, looks like I'll never have to make that decision.
Quick question.... Why were all the trucks those guys in the shop working on brand new?
because they are Ford's
3.5 all day .......Takes a supercharged 5.0 to out perform a 3.5 I own both. Plus no cylinder deactivation on the 3.5 💪
5.0Ls are easy to maintain and don't have as bad as phaser issues and the 3.5 has timing problems as well. Not to mention this comparison of power comparing an NA truck to a forced induced truck. We can make it a fair comparison and put the same 14 psi of boost and turbos on the coyote, and it will have a lot more power.
If it’s 3.5 all day then why do you think they made the Raptor R? 3.5 is tapped out for reliable power. Plus no one wants a minivan sound coming out of their performance vehicle.
@@jonathanroberson122 well yes it does but to counter that argument, the 5.0 has 2 more cylinders. So there really is no disadvantage between the two, same goes with other half-ton V8s. Plus we’re talking factory vs factory. The moment you put a super on the 5.0 or bigger turbos on the 3.5, it’s no longer factory.
@@robmd3851Raptor R was made in response to the TRX. Both vehicles are over the top pavement princesses. You don’t need 700 hp to go 110 mph off-road when a 400 hp motor can do the same. You will be limited by range. All that money for an occasional romp in the desert with a vehicle that’s lucky to get 10-11 mpg on the highway. If they offered a NA 5.0 in the Raptor, I guarantee that will outsell any other off-road truck on the market.
@@jaysson1151 exactly, they couldn’t make a 3.5 or larger ecoboost V6 compete. The 3.5 like all of the other turbo eco setups were designed to make the EPA + CAFE happy.
I own a 18 f150 5.0 its a beast stock vs stock any trucks on the market no issues at all
I love my 2.7 it’s been very reliable at 120,000 miles so far without issues.
I’ll probably trade up to a 5.0 after another year or so
I’ve had them all, currently have a 2021 powerboost. If you trade while it’s in warranty none of that other stuff matters.
Had my 2018 5.0 for about 5yrs now paired with Borla ATAK exhaust……it’s true very reliable and more smiles per gallon.
I asked the Ford techs in Raleigh NC the same question 10 years ago. Same answer as the video. The ecoboost is a great motor for towing but don’t own one outside of the warranty. I’ve blown them up with under 50k miles. 5.0 more reliable and sounds better too.
I wonder how many would opt for a manual transmission if it was available.
I actually thought they'd all say 2.7 TT. I have the 5 liter in a 19 regular cab 2wd and the MPG readings are shockingly high. Under ideal conditions (65F, no wind, going from about 50 to 60mph) I set out from Chicago to Volo IL (about 40 miles) and pulled into the destination with the DIC reading 32mpg. It knocks and emits white oil smoke. Dealer said it's normal...we'll see!
I want to buy a Ford F150 and there is a V8 5.0 engine and another engine 3.5 Tun Turbo which one do you recommend buy I need your advice
Had a 2006 5.4 had 250k on it when I traded it in. Have a 2014 with the 5.0 now. Only reason I would go to the ecoboost is if I were buying a raptor. If it's another non-raptor, I'd still go with 5.0.
I have a 2010 with 5.4 triton 150,000, runs great, use 5w-30 synthetic oil and change by 4,000 miles
Mine has 395k
@jamesfulks2910 there are some real good ones out there
I have a ‘21 Powerboost and have driven a friends 5.0. I really missed the torque and acceleration when driving the 5.0. I trade every 4 years When I get to 50k miles, so longevity is secondary to fun.
I own a 21 Limited Powerboost, it's a new technology but so far I'm definitely happy with it.
I'm not sure how many generations the EB has, but the F-150 can be found with Gen 1-3 Coyote 5.0 engines based on what year you purchase. I personally would not get an F-150 with a Gen 1 coyote. My Gen 1 coyote spun a rod bearing in my 2012 Mustang GT at 120K miles. I changed the oil every 3-5K mikes so there were no extended mileage oil changes. I'm very particular about my maintenance and I only use quality oil. I also do the oil changes myself to make sure that it's done right and that the old oil gets drained out as much as possible. I'm in the process now of putting a Gen 3 short block with my Gen 1 heads, cams, and a 2018 intake back into my mustang. You cannot use Gen 3 heads on your Gen 1-2 Coyote trucks, you can use the short block though. The first run of Gen 3 engines had some bad oil consumpsion issues and spray bore liner flaking, so I would also not get a first year Gen 3 truck. They seem to have fixed those issues in the latest trucks. To me the best 5.0 Coyote truck you can get would be one that has the Gen 2 motor (2015-2017) and 6R80 Transmission. The heads are better flowing than Gen 1, they have a stout rotating assembly, and they do not have direct injection. Gen 2 Coyotes are sought after in the mustang community, and bring a higher premium.
The 3.5 Ecoboost is as reliable as the 5.0. Just requires much more maintenance. Shorter oil change intervals, etc.
other than oil, what other maintenance?
@@bjornegan6421a catch can, many have cam phaser issues so the updated ones, not much more maintenance just more problems
I have the 2016 3.5 EB with a tune, lots of power and so far at 65k has been trouble free. I have 2 tunes, one for towing and a performance tune, both are more power than I'll ever need. I do like the sound of the 5.0's though
After wrecking my F350 needed a replacement. Since I no longer needed a diesel, went with a lightly used F150 with 3.5EB. Great gas mileage (NY State, that helps the wallet pain) and with the optional towing package, has been a fantastic truck. Do I miss a 5.0 - yes and no since I've had them in the past but reality has set in for MY NEEDS.
what are you losing, besides sound, with the 3.5 over the 5.0?
I owned 2 Roush trucks with the 5.0 one was supercharged. Went with the Raptor high output and a Limited with the 3.5 ecoboost and haven’t looked back.
i would go with the 2.7. thats what i have in my f150. i been ford tech for 39 years and the 2.7 never have problems
Loved my 2 5.0s. Currently have the 2.7 and my cam phasers are going out at 47,XXX miles. I kick myself all the time for getting rid of the 5.0s.
Bought a 2012 F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost, after watching the Mike Rowe torture test vid and also test driving one with a 5.0 which had less torque and power. Have 180K on the original 3.5L engine and transmission. Sold my previous 5.0 F150 with 225K miles after it started blowing plugs. Also had several other Mustangs and Crown Vic's with the 5.0 and they have all been great engines. Current goal is to see if if I can hit 300K on my 3.5L. If Ford offered an affordable F150 with a Supercharged 5.0 I'd get that instead too.
Down here in san diego we sell tons of the 2.7 and 3.5.. .. very few 5.0... and no one wanted the 3.0 when it was out
Wish Ford still offered the 3.0L Diesel. I switched to Chevy after being an exclusive ford buyer for more than a decade (including for my business). I get almost 30mpg and with 460 lb/ft of torque it can tow/haul everything we need for our business and it barely drops in mpg.
Part of me does think a Tremor with a 5.0L, and adding the supercharger and maybe some aftermarket shocks, would be like 75%-80% a Raptor R for 60% the money.
@aggiewoodie What's the point of a lifted truck with all that power? I drove my brothers roush charged f-150, and I found the power to be useless. Rear wheels would just spin. Of course you can control the throttle to prevent spinning, but at that point it's not fast anymore.
@@steve8803you can use 4x4 you know
@@steve8803 Bingo. People can't tell trucks from cars anymore.
Great topic and great answers! Is Ford making fewer V8 F150's and "forcing" Ecoboost engines on buyers? I ask because my local ford dealers very very rarely have a 5.0V8 in an F150. Nearly every truck has the 2.7 or 3.5 EcoBoost.
Ive noticed the same. Hard to find a 5.0L unless you special order
I’ve been renting F1 50s to see which one I like best.
the 50 or the 3.5. I’ve spent a week in both trucks. I put roughly 1500 miles on both trucks. Driving all over the metroplex. Lots of city and plenty of highway time.
The 3.5 was faster. Great torque, maybe more than my tundra. I was able to whip through traffic. Cruse at 100 miles an hour on the highway. It was a fun truck.
I love the sounds and the feel of the 5.0. You can feel the engine. You’ve got to get those RPMs up to really move. If you time it just right, you can whip through traffic about the same.
Average miles per gallon we’re both around 19.
Mpg 19.1 - 5.0 2023 37,000 miles
Mpg 18.7 - 3.5 2023 under 10,000 miles
I am leaning towards the 5.0
the feel of the engine and the sound. I might have to put turbos or supercharger on it. To wake it up a little. If I can get the torque up close to the 3.5. it’ll be a perfect truck.
There’s my two cents ✌️
If you ignore the oil consumption and leaking block I guess the 5.0 is good
Never had either problem on my 5.0.
Should do another video on what engine the mechanics would pick for a Super Duty.
Last year when I was on the hunt for a new truck, the salesman kept insisting that I should get a 3.5 Ecoboost. I told him that I wasn't interested in any f150 that didn't have the 5.0 in it. He looked at me like I was crazy. Since the guys there weren't willing to work with me, I left that place and now I'm the proud owner of a fully loaded 6.7 Powerstroke.
I think it is interesting how the dealerships are possibly trained to sell the 3.5 eco boost. Yet most people are very happy with the 5.0 and Ford sill pushes the eco boost!
Looks like they're making the 5.0L Coyote V8 unreliable so that they can force people to buy these overpriced EcoBoost trucks.
I guess this really depends on what you do with it and what type of person you are. If you want max power and are willing to modify 5.0 all the way, it is bigger and has more capacity for power, if you leave it alone and want the highest factory power level 3.5 ecoboost, want the base engine properly 2.7.
2023 base is 3.3l na v6, the 2.7 is the base for 2024 and newer
5.0 use to be a good engine but after my last one 2019, no one can explain at the dealer where all the oil they put in the engine go! And this is after the update where they put a bigger dip stick on it. Also both cat converters was down and no check engine light on.
Just purchased a powerboost switch from a 3.5 eco regular v6 definitely drives different. Scared to throw on a lift , tires and wheels. Hoping it doesn’t mess with the hybrid wearing it down
I’m a Fleet Manager and have several F150s with the 5.0 Almost all of them burn oil. Oil changes every 3000-5000 miles.
As a mechanic i was not sure of the 3.5 but they have been around long enough now. Seem to be a good high milage engine with minimal repairs. Tow very well and have great milage. I was never on board with that engine until sever mechanic friends of mine had them.
Took my truck to the dealership, 2017 (5.0) for some brake work. Talked to another customer who was in for a new water pump on his 2016 (5.0)…..242k miles on the original pump.
My 2016 5.0 is fantastic.
I’m a 2.7 guy! Durable, fast, powerful, economical!
Personally i love a 5.7 triton that has been properly done. All the oil pathways bored out, upgraded mellings oil pump and chain tensioners... with that we have 2 1999 lariat's still running strong. Thing is a workhorse and with heads and an exhaust it was the best sound IMO.
5.4 how about all those spark plugs flying out of the head.😂
Sounds like Ford should be listening to their customers more.
That's like getting DC to respond to our needs. LOL
The issue with naturally aspirated engines (although I love the 5.0 coyote and the toyota 5.7 v8) is high altitude driving. The turbocharger helps with pumping air into the cylinders.
I liked the guy that said 5.7 hemi. He knows his engines.
We’ve had 6 3.5’s. Not a single issue with any of them and it pulls like a freight train
I have a 2018 F150 5.0 FX4 Supercrew w/3.55 gears, and I've only run 93 or E85 in it. Here's what I can tell you. It's not that strong down low, but respectable. Where it really shines is up top. You put your foot down and be patient for a moment, and then just hold on because it's about to start pulling like a freight train. The top end on this engine is just fantastic. Add a quality tune with some E85 and it will really surprise you. For the record, I also have a 2017 Mustang GT 5.0 Coyote with a whipple SC...around 800hp...those coyotes really go crazy with some boost. All that being said, I am about to trade in my 5.0 F150 for a 2023 Powerboost to try a different flavor. I think it's pretty much proven at this point. No bad engine choices for the F150 right now.
Man I wish I had the 5.0 option for my Wildtrack!
My ‘20 5.0 lost compression in cyl 2 with only 33k miles! Traded it for a ‘23 with the 3.5eco. The 5.0 wasn’t an option with the cylinder deactivation! And that 500 torque puts a smile on my face every time 😆
My 2018 5.0 has 67,000 miles on the body with four different engines so far the first 3 were due to oil consumption there wouldn’t be any oil left on the dipstick after 5,000 miles this last one had misfiring on 2 cylinders and random misfiring on all the others they were going to try and repair this engine until they looked at the cylinder wall’s it was beyond repair
The question is will that overpriced EcoBoost truck of yours outlast my 1996 Ford F150 with a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 in it?
@@CJColvin absolutely it will l! Look up ecoboost torture testing. And it’s aluminum body will not rot out like the old ones did! Plus the 20MPG in a crew cab 4X4 with 400HP & 500TQ! Yeah, I have no doubt it will.!
@@Klperformance68 Show me a video of an overpriced EcoBoost truck outlasting the 92-96 Ford Trucks.
@@CJColvin I had a 95 flare side I know from experience.. the firewall, door jam pinch welds & body mounts rot out fast! Not to mention the AOD transmission problems!
Looked for a 5.0 in PHX. One available, $54k. 900 2.7 turbos available. Give us 200k warranty and we'll buy them. Built ford tough. Back it up.
Doesn't the baby 2.7 stop on the Coyote? And with cylinder deactivation on the 5.0 how can.we.determine long term reliability?
2020 5.0 with a roush catback, the sound of that engine is intoxicating.
When all the mechanics who actually work on the cars say “5.0”…….that’s tells you something.
My dad has a fx4 I think he’s had 3 5.0 put in it and his third motor is starting to do crazy stuff.
My 2016 5.0 has 185k on it and it runs great!
The guy who said the lightning is totally delusional!!
He has to be using it like a car, not a truck.