Many overlook that the base naturally aspirated V6 makes for a fine daily driver if you are not regularly towing over 4000lbs. Myself have a 2014 with the 3.7 and in stock form it's more powerful than the two V8 trucks I had previously owned. Buy/own a pick-up truck for what is was designed for, if you want 'quick & fast' buy a sports car.
@michellatour150 agreed, but nowadays you can have it all. Can tow my 9k RV connected to my built-in 7.2kw inverter generator and still have the fastest truck I've ever had.
@@michellatour150 I had a 2011 3.7 all Eco no boost and agree it's very capable. I loved that motor, especially when you smash the pedal and it reves out to over 6k rpm. Owned it to 300,000 ish kms only replaced a water pump.
I had a rental recently with the 5.0. It was so quick I thought for sure it had an ecoboost until I popped the hood. Awesome engine with great economy.
I own a 23’ 5.0 and I rented a 2024 powerboost recently. The main difference is the powerboost has torque down low while the 5.0 has to scream at 6-7k rpms to get it moving… which makes the 5.0 way more fun and enjoyable to drive. The powerboost sounds like a vaccuum cleaner
@@agoutboards7855 you can’t possibly drive like that all the time though. The Powerboost has more power when you need it most and most of the time the revs are down low. 🤷🏻♂️ it’s a far better truck to drive every day than the 5.0. If it’s a daily, sound is not really a factor for me. I’d rather have less noise than a stupid loud exhaust constantly. that gets old when you drive a lot.
@@Michael_M991i do when Im towing a big boat , the sound of the V8 sounds way better. The ecoboost also has V8 noise pumped through the speakers to enhance the sound of the truck lol in regard to sound levels , they’re both about the same at idle and normal driving. They are not too far off in real world fuel economy numbers either, the powerboost averaged about 20-21 , 5.0 averages 19-20. I am on my third 5.0 F150 and they have all been reliable. I owned 4.7 and 5.7 tundras before and the 5.0 has treated me the same.
Hard to call them “pros” when they all think the 5.0 has more power than the 3.5Ecoboost. My guess is they choose the 5.0 because they are easier to work on.
@@brad5349 Same. I had a 21 3.5EB now a 24 5.0. I do miss the low end torque but the top end pulls stronger on the 5.0. I got it a month ago and I already put 2000 miles on it. Averaging 15mpg which is what I got with the 3.5 EB. I did a muffler delete and wow it sounds so amazing compared to the EB.
Have a 2015 Lariat with the 5.0l coyote and 315,000 miles on it. Overall very happy with it! In the fleet also have an '18 with a 2.7 and another '15 with the 3.5 NA. No reliability issues outside of the normal batteries, tires, etc.
This explains why it always takes 6 tries for a dealership to figure out an issue, but a private shop nails it the first time; the techs don’t know jack about engines, while the mechanics with real knowledge would never work at a dealership.
I had a 2016 2.7L took it to 120k miles, and I will say that engine pretty damn reliable, like the dude in 6:01 said they don't work on them much for a reason. My truck had never been in shop not once since I bought it. I had traded her out for a new model with the 5.0 3.73 and they both feel equally as fast. 5.0 or 2.7 for me all day!
I wonder if part of the reason they don't see the 2.7 in the shop as much is due to the take rate. Not as many out in the wild, not as many to work on. Though, I hear the 2.7 is built pretty stout too.
I just traded my 2015 2.7 with 165k problem free miles in for a 2024 with the 5.0. just wanted a change, and to not worry about turbo wastegate rattle in 9 years hah
I currently have a 23 F150 with the 3.5EB and love it! I had a 13 F150 with a 5.0 great truck no issues power and sounded great I traded that on a 18 F150 3.5 EB had the cam phaser replaced and that was under warranty. To be honest I think both are rock solid engines so I would choose either one.
I’ve had a ‘13 5.0, a ‘20 3.5 and now have a ‘24 Powerboost. No major issues with any of them. Each one has been a significant upgrade in power and MPG over the truck they replaced.
Same setup, just ticked over 100k and all its ever gotten was oil and filters. Deleted tuned and 40gal tank upgrade gets me about 1000 miles a tank. I wont be upset when i gotta do a cab off for belts and fuel pump replacement.
Got a 14 Silverado 5.3 L. Drove my brother in-law 2.7 F-150 and loved it. It felt like a sports car compared to my Silverado. It felt light and fast. It's a huge difference.
No one mentioned that the 2.7 has a CGI engine block compared to the 3.5 and 5.0 which is an aluminum block. You have a more robust engine block in the 2.7 .
@@Evian1990 to your question no, however the question is why did Ford use CGI block for there 2.7 and not the 3.5 or 5.0? From what I understand CGI blocks are usually used in diesel and race motors due to the there high compression ratios.
Yeah I'll definitely agree with you there. Bathing a rubber belt in oil is not a good idea, let alone it's the thing that turned the oil pump, which if you don't have an oil pump turning, you're going to destroy your engine. But I'd still take a 50. I would just take an earlier generation
@xzibito187 i agree that feature sucks...i bought livernois tuner and it deleted that and it shifts sequential. The 3.5 isnt all great...i had one and when the engine failed at 70k moles, i fixed it and traded it in for the 5.0. Will see how this one does long term
@@petergalvez6431 now I haven't researched this. I know that the cylinder deactivation on the hemi and the LS engines didn't work well because of the different lifters and it would like stop oil from going past into oil to cam, but since the coyote is slightly different I mean they still have lifters. They have those roller finger follower lifters with a hydraulic lash adjusters but does the coyote actually have problems with that? Cuz I don't think I've ever heard of that. Not saying you're wrong about the 27 but do we know it's the exact same setup And you know besides the obvious planned obsolescence where we think Ford only cares about motors lasting to $100,000. Is there a reason why they've put that rubber belt on there instead of the oil pump gears that they've used for almost a century?
@@matthewm3912 .. not much. The modern v8 with cylinder deactivation is far from simple. I’ve owned both and I prefer the 3.5. I don’t care about sound, I care about ride quality. My friend has a 2023 with the 5.0 and it rattles big time. He regrets not getting the 3.5 after driving my 3.5 Tremor.
@@tewksburydriver8624facts. Nobody else was talking about this. The current iteration of the Coyote is not a simple motor anymore. I have the Powerboost and love the fact it's quiet. Don't care about the noise it's a daily. It also blows the 5.0 away in terms of performance.
Is it simpler when that v8 starts shutting down cylinders? lol I love the 5.0 but the DFM has me very concerned. I don’t know how one can argue a cylinder deactivation system will IMPROVE reliability.
@JoeSchoonover-qz5lt loved my 21 Powerboost so much I ordered a 24 Powerboost and it's even better. I've only got a few thousand miles on it so far. Pulled our 9k trailer like a champ for camping this weekend. Game changer having the built-in 7.2kw generator
@joseeduardo4327 it's actually a solid truck. I know a ton of contractor friends that bought Lightnings and rave about them. I'm enjoying the best of both worlds with my Powerboost but I'll seriously consider a full EV when I'm in the market again end of 2027
Same.. had a 5.0 traded for PB and ultimately ended up in a Lightning. All were great, but the ⚡️is the best to live with day to day. Easy , amazing power. Depends on your case usage, but works for us.
Knowing everyone saying power being the 5.0s benefits over the 3.5EB kinda amuses me, knowing the 3.5EB has +90 lb ft of torque over the coyote. Id still pick a 5.0L over the power POTENTIAL and reliability. Them gosh darn cam phasers
@@jamesgarrett5218 a couple things if you’re planning to overwork it, you shouldn’t be looking at an F150 anyway. There are plenty of V6 trucks on the road for a very long time. You could destroy any engine if you don’t care for it or treat it right.
Did they not work on 5.0 That were burning oil like crazy? I found the 5.0L slower than my 2.7L. The mechanic that chose the 2.7 is the smartest one of the bunch.
@@Mrbink01 dual injection is superior. You get the benefits of DI without the downside of carbon buildup because there is still port injection to keep the intake valves clean. As a gen 3 5.0 owner, that's driven 2.7s and 3.5s, the EBs have better driving characteristics due to more usable torque down low but the 5.0 really starts making power at 3500+. The 2.7 is a very reliable engine, the issue with gen 1 is the DI, gen 2 have dual injection to mitigate carbon buildup. If I needed a great reliable daily driver I would buy a 2.7EB equipped F150. It's all dependent on use case.
@@xXxDETZxXx I had a 2013 with the 5.0L and it was great. My 2018 5.0L was nothing but problems...burned oil, transmission was clunky, made all kinds of engine knock if not running premium or E85. I bought a 2022 2.7L Lariat and it's been great. Can't get the 2.7 in a Lariat anymore, so I'll wait to see what happens with the next generation of the PowerBoost. They have to make that one more efficient to make it worthwhile.
@@Mrbink01 same here. Always had a 2.7 Lariat. Had to get a power boost in my 24. Not the same, I get knocks sometimes when the switchover from electric to gas happens on highway
I'm looking to buy one and just test-drove both the 5.0, and the 2.7. coming from chevy 5.3 Silverado . the 5.0 felt very sluggish , and the 2.7 felt much faster and more powerful. I will drive them both again before I buy and try to push them at high speeds to see if the v8 is better up top.
I’d go with the 5.0L as well because it has been around for many years and has been a reliable work horse for Ford with little problems as long as you maintain the vehicle properly.
I'm in My 60's and have heard all of My life "There's no replacement, for displacement"......I also remember when a 351 C.I. was a "small" Engine......;).........
My friend a Ford Master tech, said the 2.7 they see the less amount of issues, 3.5 if you tow and want a better performing engine compared to the 5.0 stock for stock, 3.5 power boost if you like a bit of speed, Lightning if you stay around town with chargers, the massive kWH backup battery for your home or worksite, and the 5.0 only if you want to modify it such as Whipple and other force induction.
Im going 2.7 eb. 5.0 went from hero to zero with the addition of cylinder deactivation. 2.7 is good power, good fuel consumption balance, and is wayyy overbuilt.
You can deactivate the cylinder deactivation system on a 5.0 by unhooking one simple wire near the battery.. Then its just like a regular 8 cylinder again.. Fords system is different than GMs.
@@71boss39I believe that has since been changed and that little fix is now obsolete. Since that little way to defeat was put out all over the internet, ford said no no. I know guys that have a 23 and 24 model and that doesn’t work anymore.
It really sucks that they got rid of the 3.3L NA V6 for the 24 MY. Sure it was gutless but it was arguably more reliable than the 5.0 as it lacked the cylinder deactivation tech.
I have the 3.5 N/A in my work truck. One of the most gutless motors I have ever driven. With 500 lb plus of work gear, it is dangerous pulling out of an intersection or onto the highway. The transmission is still the Achilles heel. Bear in mind I also drove an iron block 4.3 195hp Silverado, And I would say the Silverado had more power coupled with the 4-speed.
The 2.7 is your answer. It has the power and has been over built by ford to be reliable and last long. It’s not just a “smaller 3.5 eco” it’s very different.
@@DontAtMe2k24 Eh, the ecoboom engines need a media blasting (usually ground up wallnut shells) of the valves at the 80K miles mark due to carbon buildup due to the direct injection setup. I like the port injection NA 3.3L more.
I got the 2.7, 2018 with 74000 mi. I have not had ont issue with it. Runs like a Swiss watch and gives 23 mi/gal on the highway. It is smooth, quiet and quick.
One choice has 430 Horsepower and 570 lb-ft of torque and wasn;'t mentioned in your survey. Oh, and it powered my house for 6 days during Hurricane Beryl. I'd like to see you Coyote do that.
90% is picking the 5.0 because the exhaust note. The power is the 3.5EB Powerboost. Most of those mechanics are from the older generation and would automatically pick the 5.0. I hear that 2.7EB is the most reliable out of all. I love my 502a Lariat Powerboost and I love to hear those turbos spooling and hissing every time. No issues (knock on wood). I’ve raced a Supercharged Range Rover sport and the owner said he wants to go again and was quite impressed 😏
@@jrdecker5526 wish ford would make a 5.0 powerboost. Probably would make similar numbers horse power could be higher even but i doubt torque could reach 570 without forced induction.
I’ve had both 5.0L in an F150 and currently have a Timberline Expedition with definitely more stock HP however there’s something about the 5.0 power delivery and sound that is wonderful. The techs saying the 5.0 has more power may not be specifically referring to the F150 version like the host asked and may be including the Mustang version of the 5.0 which makes 485 hp in the GT so in that scenario the 5.0 makes more power as they referenced. Also the 5.0 has more capability to make so much more. Get the dealer supercharger and get over 700 hp or 800+ hp in the mustang right off the showroom floor with factory warranty in tact
I’ve owned the 3.5 and now the 5.0. The 5.0 feels like it makes a lot more power especially from a stop. Also doesn’t make a rattling noise at startup which is nice. Both turbos blew on the 3.5 at 80k miles
I have 6 identical trim (all ordered at the same time) 150’s in my fleet at work and put the 2.7 in 4 of them and did one with the 3.5 and one with the 5.0. I’ve spent tons of time behind the wheel and my least favourite engine drivability wise would be the 5.0. It’s not a truck engine you need to rev it to get any power out of it whatsoever and it always seems like it’s working so hard when you strap a trailer to it. It also has the least amount of power and is the slowest. Sounds the best though. Reliability wise I can’t comment all of our trucks have been great with no problems but they only have about 35k miles on each.
Those who picked the 5.0 over the 3.5EB for reliability reasons never owned 3.5EB before. Not to mention the 3.5EB has more power LOL. Those who owned 3.5EB will know what I'm talking about. I've a mustung 5.0 and an F150 3.5EB and I couldn't be more happier with both. Thanks the Lord for Ford.🤠
Our F-150 has the 3.5 liter turbo which pulls a horse trailer pretty well. The twin turbo 2.7 in my Bronco is pretty good too. Both are excellent engines.
I currently own a 2016 F 150 Lariat, with the 2.7. its the first time not having a V8. The 2.7 has been super reliable, and has great acceleration. I just turned 100,000 miles on it. I do, however, really miss the sound of the V8 in my truck. Next time around will be back to the 5.0... I know, stupid reason to go back to a V8... But it feels so good to drive a truck that sounds like a truck!!
I'm not a ford technician but a dealer technician of 30 years for two other brands. I Have owned 5 fords 89 Mustang GT, 99 F250 powerstroke, 2020 Mustang CA Special, 22 F450 and the 23 Bronco Wildtrak, My Answer would be for sure the 5.0 but my second choice would be the 2.7. Reliability is my reason. The 2.7 is no slouch though, I love the Low and High pressure fuel Injection, the CGI Block and the Offset rods. But my Favorite 2 Ford Engines are the 6.7 powerstroke then the Coyote 5.0 overall.
I love my 2015 f150 2.7 with 240k miles only thing I’ve had wrong is torque converter and turbo waste gate linkage wear on driver side. I know a few people who work for ford and said the 2.7 is the most reliable engine in the lineup.if you want reliability and don’t care about power or mpg buy a pre 2022 tundra i force
At 5000 ft where I live the turbo engines really stand out and are the most popular. When I went to buy a new F150 the dealer near me didn't have any 5.0's on the lot and was clear that they did not want to sell me one. So I had to go to another dealer just to test drive one.
My dad had a few ecoboosts around the time I had a harley f150 with the 6.2. I much preferred the 6.2. Neither of us had them long enough to speak for reliability. I had a couple of truck issues, non engine related. After that I went back to GM. Sierra all terrain with the 6.2. The gm 6.2 had much better driving dynamics. The 8 speed was another story.
For me 5.2 first then the 5.0 V-8 Horsepower and sound. I own a 6.2 Raptor with Roush exhaust and cold air intake by K&N, awesome!!! I would love to get the Raptor R
One of my close friends is the lead technician at the main Ford dealership in our city and I asked him when I was buying a new truck which of the 3 engines to get and he told me the 2.7 he said they just don’t see them much in the shop
@@pajamatime5750it’s definitely the most reliable f150 engine option we’ve replaced countless 5.0/3.5eb but only a handful of 2.7s sure the old oil pan design leaked but the new design fixes that and the valve issue isn’t as big as everyone makes it out to be
I think 5.0 and 2.7 are the most reliable and 3.5 is way better know as well with ford now fixed the cam phaser issue since 2021 I think there all good and reliable if you maintain them properly
I bought a 2.7l specifically because I'm not towing too often and when I do it works well, prefer the better gas mileage and in regards to speed they're almost dead even from racing them in the 1/4 mile. All of that being said if it wasn't for the gas mileage I would have went with the 5.0 as I own a 2013 boss 302 (roadrunner basically coyote) and love the engines, ease to work on and availability of parts.
5.0 for me, my 2013 F150 with the 5.0 has had only 1 problem and that was the evap system, other than that no issues. Also sounds pretty sweet with a Flowmaster side exit exhaust.
Great video. Just wish you you would have left the questions more open ended instead of leading them into “power or reliability?” Feel like we didn’t get a genuine answer from anyone.
I have my second f150 with the 3.5 engine. I had absolutely no issues with the first one in 62k miles so this new one has the powerboost. I hope for the same performance with this one.
Power boost might have a little more power but I bought the 5.0 because I like to hear my mbrp exhaust on it lol , put that exhaust on a 6 cylinder and it will make u want to throw up 🤮 plus the option to whipple down the road makes it a win for me .
I own a 24 powerboost and lined up with my buddy’s 24 5.0. Needles to say he was spanked and upset since he’s a coyote purist. Mind you we both work at the plant that bulls the V6’s. The turbos are good for well into 120k. I just got rid of a 2020 5.0 that had oil consumption issues failed cam phaser and smoked some lifters and cam lobes.
I've seen the question posed to other shops, non dealer shops, the 5.0 is a clear favorite. I've driven the 4 cylinder, it moves around just fine basically empty. Can't speak to loaded. I powered it though a goopy deep mudhole, the far end took everything it had but it lept right out when it found solid ground. The current work truck is a 12, while the interior is beat to hell, the 5.0 is still strong at 200,000 miles. The only caveat with the 5.0 historically, IDK if the new version holds true is that it has a few small oil passages that can clog. The moral of that story is don't push your oil changes, (yes you do) probably not a bad idea to do em early.
I have a 2018 5.0 lifted on 20x12 and a 2024 2.7 stx work truck. I'm definitely a 5.0 guy for the sound and driving experience but the 2.7 gets the job done just really quietly 😂
Small displacement turbo motors have more torque and power but at the huge cost of working those tiny motors much harder to create that much more power. Towing with them puts even more continuous stress on them. I had a 5.7 Tundra and a 3.5L tundra. Tower with both. Even though the numbers favor the 3.5, the 5.7 feels more powerful and towed much better. Maybe the feel is what the techs were talking about.
I'm not a mechanic and I can't tell you which one would be more reliable. But I can tell you the one that I did have when I had an F-150 was the 5.0 V8. I like the sound of a V8, and from everything I had read or heard, I lead to believe the 5.0 would be more reliable and that V6 wasn't going to get substantially better fuel economy.
Yep the coyote is easy to work on. Rebuilt mine in my garage after it spun a con-rod bearing and bent two rods and the crank. Had a 2006 F150 and the transmission went at 60000kms then the engine at 72000kms (4.6L). Stayed away for a while but figured I'd try another ford. Bought a used 2011 F150 with the coyote and 132000kms (82000mi). Bearing went right around 18 months after buying from the dealer. Had to wait 4 months to get a new crank because there were none available in all of North America, all sold out. Wonder why... Funny part is, after I had tore the engine down, the stampings pointed to the engine being made in 2013, so the truck had already had the engine replaced at least once before! I average around 12000kms a year, oil changes twice a year and the heaviest thing I haul around is my quad in the box. Super reliable.... (sarcasm).
I have owned both 5.0 and currently a 2023 3.5. For towing the 3.5 is hands down better. The torque curve and higher torque makes for a great towing and great day to day throttle feel. Never feels like it has to try. But...For just smiles...5.0. Cant ever get a v6 to sound like a v8.
No experience with the 3.5 but I've had a 5.0 (2013 gen 1) and have a 2.7 (2019). Both motors have been mechanically perfect reliability wise but I've found I prefer the 2.7 because of how much torque it makes in lower RPM. Always seemed like the 5.0 needed some RPM to get the job done. I know the current 5.0 has a significant HP bump over the gen 1 so might be different if I tried one now.
Others have said it here, but only one guy in the group knew that the 3.5 has more power (torque) than the 5.0. Same horsepower, but low end torque and towing capacity is more in the 3.5L. If they're talking about power potential with upgrades, then the 5.0 does it, but not off the factory line. I have a 2023 3.5 and love it, and most of the reliability issues are supposedly worked out from the earlier versions. But looking back on my purchase, I would probably go 5.0 and do the power upgrades to get more HP.
The 5.0 liter is less complex than the 3.5 liter Ecoboost. I prefer the 5 liter V8. I believe any of the engines will last if maintenance is performed at regular intervals. In the past the 3.5 liter Ecoboost had a few issues, but most of the issues have been resolved by Ford. Good video and peace.
I think it was your channel that did this same thing a couple years ago -- asking all the tech's which engine they would buy. That time also most of them said the 5.0. I am buying a truck in the next couple months, very likely an F-150, and if I go with the F-150 it will definitely have the 5.0.
I've had a '16 F-150 Supercab (extended cab) 2wd 2.7l and a current '22 F-150 Crewcab 2wd 2.7l. I have had no issues with either, great power and even 31mpg on a recent trip with the '22. I honestly love the new 5.0l but would not expect the same result as far as mpg or honestly performance. I don't tow or haul heavy, but I have/had no issues whatsoever in either truck. The '16 had 40k and the '22 has 21k so far... I can't give my opinion on the other engines, but I personally think it depends on your need. I have dreams of building a 5.0l with a blower truck but it's a dream. I also have a '22 Bronco with a 2.7l and 18k with no engine issues.
Eco boost 3.5, 2.7, are across the board faster Period. BUT, I just started investigating why my 3.5 is losing coolant at 94k miles. Holy Shiite the Complexity of the 3.5 is literally unbelievable. So knowing what I know now, 5.0 💯.
For me, the 5.0 gets the best HWY mileage, and the best sounding. Now, if I lived at altitude, say Denver, I would go with the 3.5 so you don't lose the power.
Yep, I have a 5.0, didn't want a whimpy sounding full size truck but the 3.5 eco boost will walk a stock 5.0 and if you get a tune it will really walk a 5.0 until you go Whipple then its bye bye!
Anyone that knows their way around all of these engines knows… If towing heavy and often then… 3.5, 2.7, 5.0 and 3.5PB …. In that order. I know some will disagree but a 2.7 will outrun a 5.0 when pulling a heavy trailer. I’ve owned them all.
@@lennyjonas5417 I don't think anyone, myself included, is doubting the 3.5/2.7's towing ability but the reliability of that platform just isn't up to par for me yet. My construction company gets all our ford work trucks with a coyote, generally speaking we have less issues with that engine.
Have had a 2016 2.7 and now currently own a 2016 5.0. Loved both. I kind of wish they offered the Godzilla in the F150 since I tow and the 5.0 does good but isn't mind blowing when towing.
The 6.8 mini Zilla would be a good engine in the F150. Would think it should be even more reliable than the 5L. Less moving parts, no oil pump belt etc
I can’t believe these techs were so ill informed. Ford lets us know that the 3.5 is somewhat more powerful than the 5.0. It’s even rated for more towing. Maybe reliability for the 5.0 . But the 3.5 has more power.
@@Foxbody302 I think the 2.7 is the overall best choice for most people unless they need the maximum towing ability. It has proven dependable. And it gets the best fuel economy . And power is more than adequate for the vast majority of people.
@@smittysmith9509 adding a whipple to a regular coyote truck is over $10,000. Unless you bought the single cab XL model with a whipple installed from ford that’s an XL trim with absolutely no creature comforts for about $60,000. It’s not worth the money. My Powerboost is tuned and I have over 600whp and 800wtq. That cost me around $2000 all in for the tune and some other bolt ons. You can’t beat the value the 3.5 offers. From factory it’s miles better than the 5.0 and most people probably won’t modify them.
@@Michael_M991 where do you live? I have a bone stock 5.0 Crew cab 4WD truck that would love to run your stock 2.7 truck. Also if it’s not stock I will still run it.
They are just wrong. Ford lets us know that the 3.5 is the most powerful. Driving it verifies it. They don’t read up on the product they work on. The 5.0 is simpler to work on. But they’re not as powerful as the 3.5.
@@bjornegan6421 reliability and easy of maintenance, 5.0s are pretty basic and easy to work on, the 3.5 isn’t horrible but there’s definitely more things I’ll probably let the ford techs do
The verdict is still out about the 5.0 cylinder deactivation and wet oil pump belt. The later hasn’t gone well in the past even with “Kevlar” belts. Also, the 5.0 doesn’t make more power than the 3.5 and is pretty much equal to the 2.7. They are all great engines if you maintain them well. My FIL’s Powerboost is pretty amazing. 22-26mpg and can power his roof & gutter machines, that’s hard to beat.
The camshaft for a microphone holder is a great touch!
One of them CHINA Ford sourced failed soft metal ones
5.0 does make power but I think when they’re really saying “power” they’re reflecting on the fantasy of adding a supercharger or turbo to it.
@@JsGarage nope not on my truck, never an issue.
Exactly right, and a $500 tune can add 100 onto hp to an EcoBoost
@@JsGarage if you want to turn it into the junk heap the 3.5 is. Great idea 🙄
I've got the 5.0L and friends of mine have the 2.7L and 3.5L. We're all happy about our choices.
at 150k miles you will be the happiest, I promise
Got 3.3 V6 and absolutely love it! Don't tow anything, just bring wood , etc for personal house projects. The most comfortable car I've ever driven.
Many overlook that the base naturally aspirated V6 makes for a fine daily driver if you are not regularly towing over 4000lbs.
Myself have a 2014 with the 3.7 and in stock form it's more powerful than the two V8 trucks I had previously owned.
Buy/own a pick-up truck for what is was designed for, if you want 'quick & fast' buy a sports car.
@michellatour150 agreed, but nowadays you can have it all. Can tow my 9k RV connected to my built-in 7.2kw inverter generator and still have the fastest truck I've ever had.
Gayyyyy
@@michellatour150 I had a 2011 3.7 all Eco no boost and agree it's very capable. I loved that motor, especially when you smash the pedal and it reves out to over 6k rpm. Owned it to 300,000 ish kms only replaced a water pump.
Why do you have a truck then 🙄🤡🙄
I had a rental recently with the 5.0. It was so quick I thought for sure it had an ecoboost until I popped the hood. Awesome engine with great economy.
Go drive a Powerboost and you'll take that comment back lol
@@Michael_M991 Exactly, Even just the 3.5EB. Both have more torque than 5.0.
I own a 23’ 5.0 and I rented a 2024 powerboost recently. The main difference is the powerboost has torque down low while the 5.0 has to scream at 6-7k rpms to get it moving… which makes the 5.0 way more fun and enjoyable to drive. The powerboost sounds like a vaccuum cleaner
@@agoutboards7855 you can’t possibly drive like that all the time though. The Powerboost has more power when you need it most and most of the time the revs are down low. 🤷🏻♂️ it’s a far better truck to drive every day than the 5.0. If it’s a daily, sound is not really a factor for me. I’d rather have less noise than a stupid loud exhaust constantly. that gets old when you drive a lot.
@@Michael_M991i do when Im towing a big boat , the sound of the V8 sounds way better. The ecoboost also has V8 noise pumped through the speakers to enhance the sound of the truck lol in regard to sound levels , they’re both about the same at idle and normal driving. They are not too far off in real world fuel economy numbers either, the powerboost averaged about 20-21 , 5.0 averages 19-20. I am on my third 5.0 F150 and they have all been reliable. I owned 4.7 and 5.7 tundras before and the 5.0 has treated me the same.
Hard to call them “pros” when they all think the 5.0 has more power than the 3.5Ecoboost.
My guess is they choose the 5.0 because they are easier to work on.
Owned a 3.5 eco and now a 5.0 F150, I'd take the 5.0 any day. Exhaust note at 7000rpm is ridiculous.
@@brad5349 Same. I had a 21 3.5EB now a 24 5.0. I do miss the low end torque but the top end pulls stronger on the 5.0. I got it a month ago and I already put 2000 miles on it. Averaging 15mpg which is what I got with the 3.5 EB. I did a muffler delete and wow it sounds so amazing compared to the EB.
I’m a ford tech ( 30yrs) bought the 5.0, and your right the sound is absolutely amazing!!
Have a 2015 Lariat with the 5.0l coyote and 315,000 miles on it. Overall very happy with it! In the fleet also have an '18 with a 2.7 and another '15 with the 3.5 NA. No reliability issues outside of the normal batteries, tires, etc.
This explains why it always takes 6 tries for a dealership to figure out an issue, but a private shop nails it the first time; the techs don’t know jack about engines, while the mechanics with real knowledge would never work at a dealership.
they literally dont know the differences between the engines lol
@@Cloud30000 agreed
Dealerships don't pay as much as third party and they usually treat you like crap also.
So 1 interview with 1 dealership tells you Ford Dealership technicians don't know the product! Typical UA-cam knowledge!
I was thinking the same thing while watching this.
I had a 2016 2.7L took it to 120k miles, and I will say that engine pretty damn reliable, like the dude in 6:01 said they don't work on them much for a reason. My truck had never been in shop not once since I bought it. I had traded her out for a new model with the 5.0 3.73 and they both feel equally as fast. 5.0 or 2.7 for me all day!
I wonder if part of the reason they don't see the 2.7 in the shop as much is due to the take rate. Not as many out in the wild, not as many to work on. Though, I hear the 2.7 is built pretty stout too.
@@exordis the 2.7 is literally the base engine in everything except the XL. It's probably THE most taken engine in the most popular truck.
@@exordis There are plenty of 2.7L, most STX and XLTs have the 2.7L, which are Ford's best sellers. The 2.7L is very well built.
I just traded my 2015 2.7 with 165k problem free miles in for a 2024 with the 5.0. just wanted a change, and to not worry about turbo wastegate rattle in 9 years hah
@@Evian1990 Same here brother, but mainly for sound. I'm sure that 2.7L would last 20+ years.
I currently have a 23 F150 with the 3.5EB and love it! I had a 13 F150 with a 5.0 great truck no issues power and sounded great I traded that on a 18 F150 3.5 EB had the cam phaser replaced and that was under warranty. To be honest I think both are rock solid engines so I would choose either one.
I’ve had a ‘13 5.0, a ‘20 3.5 and now have a ‘24 Powerboost. No major issues with any of them. Each one has been a significant upgrade in power and MPG over the truck they replaced.
I'm sorry
2018 F150 3.0 diesel. I purchased brand new and have had ZERO issues with it. Also, 27 MPG 4x4 half-ton is nice to have.
Same setup, just ticked over 100k and all its ever gotten was oil and filters. Deleted tuned and 40gal tank upgrade gets me about 1000 miles a tank. I wont be upset when i gotta do a cab off for belts and fuel pump replacement.
The guy that said the 3.5eb was his pick is the tech I'd want working on my rig.
I think everyone would be much better off if they picked the guy that said “ more pistons doing less work.
@@buckeyemoosehunteryep, simple and to the point.
Got a 14 Silverado 5.3 L.
Drove my brother in-law 2.7 F-150 and loved it. It felt like a sports car compared to my Silverado. It felt light and fast. It's a huge difference.
Any problems on your 2014?
I also have a 2014
I love my 2.7. It’s butter smooth, quiet and quick.
I had a 19 2.7 Ty and you’re right it’s a great motor. I love the 5.0 is great but the 2.7 surprised me on how it handles and power
I have the 5.0 but if choice was 3.5 or 2.7 I'd opt for 2.7 too.
Grocery getter. Won't haul squat
5.0 all day
2.7 all day
No one mentioned that the 2.7 has a CGI engine block compared to the 3.5 and 5.0 which is an aluminum block. You have a more robust engine block in the 2.7 .
2.7 changed my mind about turbos in general tbh
Went from the 5.0 to the 2.7. No regrets.
Is engine block failure really a legit issue though?
@@Evian1990 to your question no, however the question is why did Ford use CGI block for there 2.7 and not the 3.5 or 5.0? From what I understand CGI blocks are usually used in diesel and race motors due to the there high compression ratios.
CGI block, offset connecting rods, bowl shaped pistons. It’s a gasoline engine designed like a diesel. Doesn’t get much better than that
Lets see how the cylinder deactivation works out for the new 5.0 .. it made the motor more complex not to mention the belt driven oil pump.
Yeah I'll definitely agree with you there. Bathing a rubber belt in oil is not a good idea, let alone it's the thing that turned the oil pump, which if you don't have an oil pump turning, you're going to destroy your engine. But I'd still take a 50. I would just take an earlier generation
@xzibito187 i agree that feature sucks...i bought livernois tuner and it deleted that and it shifts sequential.
The 3.5 isnt all great...i had one and when the engine failed at 70k moles, i fixed it and traded it in for the 5.0. Will see how this one does long term
Cylinder deactivation is a bad idea brought to you by the EPA , real hard on motors .
News flash. 2.7 has the same belt since like 2018
@@petergalvez6431 now I haven't researched this. I know that the cylinder deactivation on the hemi and the LS engines didn't work well because of the different lifters and it would like stop oil from going past into oil to cam, but since the coyote is slightly different I mean they still have lifters. They have those roller finger follower lifters with a hydraulic lash adjusters but does the coyote actually have problems with that? Cuz I don't think I've ever heard of that.
Not saying you're wrong about the 27 but do we know it's the exact same setup And you know besides the obvious planned obsolescence where we think Ford only cares about motors lasting to $100,000. Is there a reason why they've put that rubber belt on there instead of the oil pump gears that they've used for almost a century?
The last guy nailed it. 3.5 has the power and the current 3.5 is reliable. The Coyote V8 is not a simple motor.
It is simpler than the 3.5
@@matthewm3912 .. not much. The modern v8 with cylinder deactivation is far from simple. I’ve owned both and I prefer the 3.5. I don’t care about sound, I care about ride quality. My friend has a 2023 with the 5.0 and it rattles big time. He regrets not getting the 3.5 after driving my 3.5 Tremor.
@@tewksburydriver8624facts. Nobody else was talking about this. The current iteration of the Coyote is not a simple motor anymore. I have the Powerboost and love the fact it's quiet. Don't care about the noise it's a daily. It also blows the 5.0 away in terms of performance.
Is it simpler when that v8 starts shutting down cylinders? lol
I love the 5.0 but the DFM has me very concerned. I don’t know how one can argue a cylinder deactivation system will IMPROVE reliability.
@@DontAtMe2k24 You can literally push a button and turn it off.
As a lifelong Ford owner and a mechanic of 23 years, I really appreciate this video. For me It's Lightning Followed by Powerboost. I own both.
A mechanic that bought a lightning? Must be a lease
@JoeSchoonover-qz5lt loved my 21 Powerboost so much I ordered a 24 Powerboost and it's even better. I've only got a few thousand miles on it so far. Pulled our 9k trailer like a champ for camping this weekend. Game changer having the built-in 7.2kw generator
@joseeduardo4327 it's actually a solid truck. I know a ton of contractor friends that bought Lightnings and rave about them. I'm enjoying the best of both worlds with my Powerboost but I'll seriously consider a full EV when I'm in the market again end of 2027
Same.. had a 5.0 traded for PB and ultimately ended up in a Lightning. All were great, but the ⚡️is the best to live with day to day. Easy , amazing power. Depends on your case usage, but works for us.
Knowing everyone saying power being the 5.0s benefits over the 3.5EB kinda amuses me, knowing the 3.5EB has +90 lb ft of torque over the coyote. Id still pick a 5.0L over the power POTENTIAL and reliability. Them gosh darn cam phasers
@@chkntndy7727 that issue was fixed a few years ago
I'd go 3.5 all day. The power band on the 3.5 is way better than the 5.0 but they both are really good engines.
Turbo chargers still wear engines faster. 5.0 handles weight better without turbo. Smaller engines don't have longevity of larger ones.
@@jamesgarrett5218 a couple things if you’re planning to overwork it, you shouldn’t be looking at an F150 anyway. There are plenty of V6 trucks on the road for a very long time. You could destroy any engine if you don’t care for it or treat it right.
@@chkntndy7727 that’s because highway and top end power on the 5.0 is better.
Did they not work on 5.0 That were burning oil like crazy? I found the 5.0L slower than my 2.7L. The mechanic that chose the 2.7 is the smartest one of the bunch.
Agreed. They ruined the 5.0L in 2018 with the sprayed on cylinder liners and the dual injection.
@@Mrbink01 dual injection is superior. You get the benefits of DI without the downside of carbon buildup because there is still port injection to keep the intake valves clean. As a gen 3 5.0 owner, that's driven 2.7s and 3.5s, the EBs have better driving characteristics due to more usable torque down low but the 5.0 really starts making power at 3500+. The 2.7 is a very reliable engine, the issue with gen 1 is the DI, gen 2 have dual injection to mitigate carbon buildup. If I needed a great reliable daily driver I would buy a 2.7EB equipped F150. It's all dependent on use case.
5.0 slower than the 2.7 at sea level? 😂 Nice joke
@@xXxDETZxXx I had a 2013 with the 5.0L and it was great. My 2018 5.0L was nothing but problems...burned oil, transmission was clunky, made all kinds of engine knock if not running premium or E85. I bought a 2022 2.7L Lariat and it's been great. Can't get the 2.7 in a Lariat anymore, so I'll wait to see what happens with the next generation of the PowerBoost. They have to make that one more efficient to make it worthwhile.
@@Mrbink01 same here. Always had a 2.7 Lariat. Had to get a power boost in my 24. Not the same, I get knocks sometimes when the switchover from electric to gas happens on highway
I have the 2012 F150 3.5L Ecoboost with 152k miles. No rust and only issue is rt front suspension, coil packs, timing chain at 150k. It’s a keeper!
I'm looking to buy one and just test-drove both the 5.0, and the 2.7. coming from chevy 5.3 Silverado . the 5.0 felt very sluggish , and the 2.7 felt much faster and more powerful. I will drive them both again before I buy and try to push them at high speeds to see if the v8 is better up top.
Long term ownership or if I wanted to heavily modify, the 5.0. Bone stock power and more fun and better towing I have the 3.5.
3.5 has more power and tows with much less RPM.
I’d go with the 5.0L as well because it has been around for many years and has been a reliable work horse for Ford with little problems as long as you maintain the vehicle properly.
I have a 3.5 boost in my 2015 Navigator and it never gives me any trouble. Very good acceleration and decent mileage too.
I'm in My 60's and have heard all of My life "There's no replacement, for displacement"......I also remember when a 351 C.I. was a "small" Engine......;).........
Technology evolves
There are in fact, many replacements for displacement.
I am on my 2nd 2.7 ecoboost f150
Over 150k miles between two trucks. Flawless. And awesome MPG.
My friend a Ford Master tech, said the 2.7 they see the less amount of issues, 3.5 if you tow and want a better performing engine compared to the 5.0 stock for stock, 3.5 power boost if you like a bit of speed, Lightning if you stay around town with chargers, the massive kWH backup battery for your home or worksite, and the 5.0 only if you want to modify it such as Whipple and other force induction.
I drive a 2018 F150 5.0 ,I HAVEN'T had A PROBLEM OUT of IT SINCE I HAD IT ,IT BEEN 2YRS AND IT SOUNDS GREAT WITH THE FLOWMASTER OUTLAW EXHAUST
All people chose the 5.0 engine, but I personally will choose to follow your beautiful channel and your most beautiful topics and the 5.0 engine.
Im going 2.7 eb.
5.0 went from hero to zero with the addition of cylinder deactivation.
2.7 is good power, good fuel consumption balance, and is wayyy overbuilt.
You can deactivate the cylinder deactivation system on a 5.0 by unhooking one simple wire near the battery.. Then its just like a regular 8 cylinder again.. Fords system is different than GMs.
@@71boss39I believe that has since been changed and that little fix is now obsolete. Since that little way to defeat was put out all over the internet, ford said no no.
I know guys that have a 23 and 24 model and that doesn’t work anymore.
@@DH-hp7nv i didnt know they changed that.. Thanks for the info...
5.0, bought one in February, and have 27000 plus with no problem at all and it get good mileage
I’m a ford man all day long and I have the 3.5 ecoboost and that has been the one that works for me and my truck is not new it’s a 2015 .
It really sucks that they got rid of the 3.3L NA V6 for the 24 MY. Sure it was gutless but it was arguably more reliable than the 5.0 as it lacked the cylinder deactivation tech.
I have the 3.5 N/A in my work truck. One of the most gutless motors I have ever driven. With 500 lb plus of work gear, it is dangerous pulling out of an intersection or onto the highway. The transmission is still the Achilles heel. Bear in mind I also drove an iron block 4.3 195hp Silverado, And I would say the Silverado had more power coupled with the 4-speed.
@@TJ-ji4vcHad a 3.5 NA on 35s. Every highway onramp was full throttle
The 2.7 is your answer. It has the power and has been over built by ford to be reliable and last long. It’s not just a “smaller 3.5 eco” it’s very different.
@@DontAtMe2k24 Eh, the ecoboom engines need a media blasting (usually ground up wallnut shells) of the valves at the 80K miles mark due to carbon buildup due to the direct injection setup. I like the port injection NA 3.3L more.
@@MrLM002I believe they added port injection in 2018 so they have both now to avoid that exact issue
The current 2.7L is my choice for sure.
I got the 2.7, 2018 with 74000 mi. I have not had ont issue with it. Runs like a Swiss watch and gives 23 mi/gal on the highway. It is smooth, quiet and quick.
One choice has 430 Horsepower and 570 lb-ft of torque and wasn;'t mentioned in your survey. Oh, and it powered my house for 6 days during Hurricane Beryl. I'd like to see you Coyote do that.
I’ll race you across country
That sounds like a faithful powerboost with a 7.2 kw yeah 👍
A single piston 0.5 liter engine can power an entire house. Pretty sure one with 8x the power and displacement would do just fine.
90% is picking the 5.0 because the exhaust note. The power is the 3.5EB Powerboost. Most of those mechanics are from the older generation and would automatically pick the 5.0. I hear that 2.7EB is the most reliable out of all. I love my 502a Lariat Powerboost and I love to hear those turbos spooling and hissing every time. No issues (knock on wood). I’ve raced a Supercharged Range Rover sport and the owner said he wants to go again and was quite impressed 😏
@@jrdecker5526 wish ford would make a 5.0 powerboost. Probably would make similar numbers horse power could be higher even but i doubt torque could reach 570 without forced induction.
I’ve had both 5.0L in an F150 and currently have a Timberline Expedition with definitely more stock HP however there’s something about the 5.0 power delivery and sound that is wonderful. The techs saying the 5.0 has more power may not be specifically referring to the F150 version like the host asked and may be including the Mustang version of the 5.0 which makes 485 hp in the GT so in that scenario the 5.0 makes more power as they referenced. Also the 5.0 has more capability to make so much more. Get the dealer supercharger and get over 700 hp or 800+ hp in the mustang right off the showroom floor with factory warranty in tact
I’ve owned the 3.5 and now the 5.0. The 5.0 feels like it makes a lot more power especially from a stop. Also doesn’t make a rattling noise at startup which is nice. Both turbos blew on the 3.5 at 80k miles
My last truck had the 3.5EB and I loved it. My new truck has the 5.0and I love it more. Nothing like that V8 exhaust sound!!
I have a 2017 F-150 5.0 since new. Never a problem. Never a regret.
My 5.0 F-150 is a 2015 with the towing package, I love the economy and versatility and comfort.
I have 6 identical trim (all ordered at the same time) 150’s in my fleet at work and put the 2.7 in 4 of them and did one with the 3.5 and one with the 5.0. I’ve spent tons of time behind the wheel and my least favourite engine drivability wise would be the 5.0. It’s not a truck engine you need to rev it to get any power out of it whatsoever and it always seems like it’s working so hard when you strap a trailer to it. It also has the least amount of power and is the slowest. Sounds the best though. Reliability wise I can’t comment all of our trucks have been great with no problems but they only have about 35k miles on each.
I own both a ‘16 5.0 and a ‘23 3.5 … both have their good points. The 5.0 is the daily run around truck, the 3.5 is the tow rig/ work truck.
Those who picked the 5.0 over the 3.5EB for reliability reasons never owned 3.5EB before. Not to mention the 3.5EB has more power LOL. Those who owned 3.5EB will know what I'm talking about. I've a mustung 5.0 and an F150 3.5EB and I couldn't be more happier with both. Thanks the Lord for Ford.🤠
Our F-150 has the 3.5 liter turbo which pulls a horse trailer pretty well. The twin turbo 2.7 in my Bronco is pretty good too. Both are excellent engines.
That one guy did not want anybody seeing what was on his phone!
I currently own a 2016 F 150 Lariat, with the 2.7. its the first time not having a V8. The 2.7 has been super reliable, and has great acceleration. I just turned 100,000 miles on it. I do, however, really miss the sound of the V8 in my truck. Next time around will be back to the 5.0... I know, stupid reason to go back to a V8... But it feels so good to drive a truck that sounds like a truck!!
I'm not a ford technician but a dealer technician of 30 years for two other brands.
I Have owned 5 fords 89 Mustang GT, 99 F250 powerstroke, 2020 Mustang CA Special, 22 F450 and the 23 Bronco Wildtrak,
My Answer would be for sure the 5.0 but my second choice would be the 2.7. Reliability is my reason. The 2.7 is no slouch though, I love the Low and High pressure fuel Injection, the CGI Block and the Offset rods. But my Favorite 2 Ford Engines are the 6.7 powerstroke then the Coyote 5.0 overall.
I love my 2015 f150 2.7 with 240k miles only thing I’ve had wrong is torque converter and turbo waste gate linkage wear on driver side. I know a few people who work for ford and said the 2.7 is the most reliable engine in the lineup.if you want reliability and don’t care about power or mpg buy a pre 2022 tundra i force
I wish they still had the in-line six
One of, if not the best engine they ever made.
300 all day
At 5000 ft where I live the turbo engines really stand out and are the most popular. When I went to buy a new F150 the dealer near me didn't have any 5.0's on the lot and was clear that they did not want to sell me one. So I had to go to another dealer just to test drive one.
I have a ford edge 2010 with 3.0 with 11200 miles and it has been real reliable with great power and pick up and still running great.
My dad had a few ecoboosts around the time I had a harley f150 with the 6.2. I much preferred the 6.2. Neither of us had them long enough to speak for reliability. I had a couple of truck issues, non engine related. After that I went back to GM. Sierra all terrain with the 6.2. The gm 6.2 had much better driving dynamics. The 8 speed was another story.
For me 5.2 first then the 5.0 V-8 Horsepower and sound. I own a 6.2 Raptor with Roush exhaust and cold air intake by K&N, awesome!!! I would love to get the Raptor R
One of my close friends is the lead technician at the main Ford dealership in our city and I asked him when I was buying a new truck which of the 3 engines to get and he told me the 2.7 he said they just don’t see them much in the shop
The 2.7 with their plastic oil pan and rubber belt for the oil pump. Yeah great engine!
@@pajamatime5750Unfortunately the 5,0 has a wet oil belt for the oil pump now.
2.7 and 3.0 is being recalled for exhaust valves
@@pajamatime5750it’s definitely the most reliable f150 engine option we’ve replaced countless 5.0/3.5eb but only a handful of 2.7s sure the old oil pan design leaked but the new design fixes that and the valve issue isn’t as big as everyone makes it out to be
Maybe they don’t see it much because people don’t buy it much
Just got a 5.0 and it’s a beast. No regrets and it’s gonna last longer.
I think 5.0 and 2.7 are the most reliable and 3.5 is way better know as well with ford now fixed the cam phaser issue since 2021 I think there all good and reliable if you maintain them properly
I bought a 2.7l specifically because I'm not towing too often and when I do it works well, prefer the better gas mileage and in regards to speed they're almost dead even from racing them in the 1/4 mile. All of that being said if it wasn't for the gas mileage I would have went with the 5.0 as I own a 2013 boss 302 (roadrunner basically coyote) and love the engines, ease to work on and availability of parts.
5.0 for me, my 2013 F150 with the 5.0 has had only 1 problem and that was the evap system, other than that no issues. Also sounds pretty sweet with a Flowmaster side exit exhaust.
Great video. Just wish you you would have left the questions more open ended instead of leading them into “power or reliability?” Feel like we didn’t get a genuine answer from anyone.
The 3.5 EB is a great motor if maintain properly
I have my second f150 with the 3.5 engine. I had absolutely no issues with the first one in 62k miles so this new one has the powerboost. I hope for the same performance with this one.
Power boost might have a little more power but I bought the 5.0 because I like to hear my mbrp exhaust on it lol , put that exhaust on a 6 cylinder and it will make u want to throw up 🤮 plus the option to whipple down the road makes it a win for me .
you really need to do this series with the 25 super duty next. huge debates between the gas v8s and mighty powerstroke.
I own a 24 powerboost and lined up with my buddy’s 24 5.0. Needles to say he was spanked and upset since he’s a coyote purist. Mind you we both work at the plant that bulls the V6’s. The turbos are good for well into 120k. I just got rid of a 2020 5.0 that had oil consumption issues failed cam phaser and smoked some lifters and cam lobes.
I have a 3.5 ecoboost in my 2022 Ford Transit. If you do the maintenance of half what FORD recommend, you will not have a problem at all.
Statistics of power, the last guy who said 3.5 is the only one that makes sense
3.5 is for towing...if you dont tow a waste of money
@@chadhaire1711if you want to tow get a diesel
@@crackerfood5825 3.5 is for towing..no need to go diesel and all the problems they have
I've seen the question posed to other shops, non dealer shops, the 5.0 is a clear favorite. I've driven the 4 cylinder, it moves around just fine basically empty. Can't speak to loaded. I powered it though a goopy deep mudhole, the far end took everything it had but it lept right out when it found solid ground. The current work truck is a 12, while the interior is beat to hell, the 5.0 is still strong at 200,000 miles.
The only caveat with the 5.0 historically, IDK if the new version holds true is that it has a few small oil passages that can clog. The moral of that story is don't push your oil changes, (yes you do) probably not a bad idea to do em early.
I have a 2018 5.0 lifted on 20x12 and a 2024 2.7 stx work truck. I'm definitely a 5.0 guy for the sound and driving experience but the 2.7 gets the job done just really quietly 😂
Love my 21 5.0, but sometimes I dislike the way the gearbox shifts
Small displacement turbo motors have more torque and power but at the huge cost of working those tiny motors much harder to create that much more power. Towing with them puts even more continuous stress on them. I had a 5.7 Tundra and a 3.5L tundra. Tower with both. Even though the numbers favor the 3.5, the 5.7 feels more powerful and towed much better. Maybe the feel is what the techs were talking about.
I'm not a mechanic and I can't tell you which one would be more reliable. But I can tell you the one that I did have when I had an F-150 was the 5.0 V8. I like the sound of a V8, and from everything I had read or heard, I lead to believe the 5.0 would be more reliable and that V6 wasn't going to get substantially better fuel economy.
Yep the coyote is easy to work on. Rebuilt mine in my garage after it spun a con-rod bearing and bent two rods and the crank. Had a 2006 F150 and the transmission went at 60000kms then the engine at 72000kms (4.6L). Stayed away for a while but figured I'd try another ford. Bought a used 2011 F150 with the coyote and 132000kms (82000mi). Bearing went right around 18 months after buying from the dealer. Had to wait 4 months to get a new crank because there were none available in all of North America, all sold out. Wonder why... Funny part is, after I had tore the engine down, the stampings pointed to the engine being made in 2013, so the truck had already had the engine replaced at least once before! I average around 12000kms a year, oil changes twice a year and the heaviest thing I haul around is my quad in the box. Super reliable.... (sarcasm).
I have a rare 11 6.2L. No one talks about those but they are a 500K engine :lol:.
V-8 all day everyday!
As long as Ford offers the V-8 option it’s the #1 choice for myself!
Long live the V-8 engines!
I have owned both 5.0 and currently a 2023 3.5. For towing the 3.5 is hands down better. The torque curve and higher torque makes for a great towing and great day to day throttle feel. Never feels like it has to try. But...For just smiles...5.0. Cant ever get a v6 to sound like a v8.
How do mechanics that work on F150’s think the 5.0 is the more powerful engine???
It’s faster than the 2.7 and 3.5
@@na4valvethat’s incorrect in stock form. If I’m not mistaken, the 2.7 is even quicker than the 5.0.
@@byronlocklear91 100% wrong
@byronlocklear91 you are correct. The 2.7 truck is quicker than the 5.0.
@@joedonbaker1673 proof?
No experience with the 3.5 but I've had a 5.0 (2013 gen 1) and have a 2.7 (2019). Both motors have been mechanically perfect reliability wise but I've found I prefer the 2.7 because of how much torque it makes in lower RPM. Always seemed like the 5.0 needed some RPM to get the job done. I know the current 5.0 has a significant HP bump over the gen 1 so might be different if I tried one now.
Others have said it here, but only one guy in the group knew that the 3.5 has more power (torque) than the 5.0. Same horsepower, but low end torque and towing capacity is more in the 3.5L. If they're talking about power potential with upgrades, then the 5.0 does it, but not off the factory line. I have a 2023 3.5 and love it, and most of the reliability issues are supposedly worked out from the earlier versions. But looking back on my purchase, I would probably go 5.0 and do the power upgrades to get more HP.
That facility is insane Mitch!! Love to see it👏 Aaaand 100% the 5.0😏
The 5.0 liter is less complex than the 3.5 liter Ecoboost. I prefer the 5 liter V8. I believe any of the engines will last if maintenance is performed at regular intervals. In the past the 3.5 liter Ecoboost had a few issues, but most of the issues have been resolved by Ford. Good video and peace.
I’ve had 3 3.5 and will continue
I think it was your channel that did this same thing a couple years ago -- asking all the tech's which engine they would buy. That time also most of them said the 5.0. I am buying a truck in the next couple months, very likely an F-150, and if I go with the F-150 it will definitely have the 5.0.
I've had a '16 F-150 Supercab (extended cab) 2wd 2.7l and a current '22 F-150 Crewcab 2wd 2.7l. I have had no issues with either, great power and even 31mpg on a recent trip with the '22. I honestly love the new 5.0l but would not expect the same result as far as mpg or honestly performance. I don't tow or haul heavy, but I have/had no issues whatsoever in either truck. The '16 had 40k and the '22 has 21k so far... I can't give my opinion on the other engines, but I personally think it depends on your need. I have dreams of building a 5.0l with a blower truck but it's a dream. I also have a '22 Bronco with a 2.7l and 18k with no engine issues.
Thought it was going to be a tough segue to get your height in this video, but you pulled it off!
Eco boost 3.5, 2.7, are across the board faster Period. BUT, I just started investigating why my 3.5 is losing coolant at 94k miles. Holy Shiite the Complexity of the 3.5 is literally unbelievable. So knowing what I know now, 5.0 💯.
2.7 is a totally different engine.
For me, the 5.0 gets the best HWY mileage, and the best sounding. Now, if I lived at altitude, say Denver, I would go with the 3.5 so you don't lose the power.
Yep, I have a 5.0, didn't want a whimpy sounding full size truck but the 3.5 eco boost will walk a stock 5.0 and if you get a tune it will really walk a 5.0 until you go Whipple then its bye bye!
If you're towing heavy and often, 5.0. If not take your pick
Anyone that knows their way around all of these engines knows…
If towing heavy and often then… 3.5, 2.7, 5.0 and 3.5PB …. In that order.
I know some will disagree but a 2.7 will outrun a 5.0 when pulling a heavy trailer. I’ve owned them all.
@@lennyjonas5417 I don't think anyone, myself included, is doubting the 3.5/2.7's towing ability but the reliability of that platform just isn't up to par for me yet. My construction company gets all our ford work trucks with a coyote, generally speaking we have less issues with that engine.
Just bought a new 24 F150 5.0 . This thing will fly with the 10 speed . My 19 f150 with the 5 liter would run but this one is wild 🎉
Have had a 2016 2.7 and now currently own a 2016 5.0. Loved both. I kind of wish they offered the Godzilla in the F150 since I tow and the 5.0 does good but isn't mind blowing when towing.
The 6.8 mini Zilla would be a good engine in the F150. Would think it should be even more reliable than the 5L. Less moving parts, no oil pump belt etc
5.0. The aftermarket support is there and the linear power delivery.
5.0 all the way. My 2012 has had ZERO issues
2.7 ecoboost most definitely!! Since when is the 5.0 more powerful then the 3.5!!?
I can’t believe these techs were so ill informed. Ford lets us know that the 3.5 is somewhat more powerful than the 5.0. It’s even rated for more towing. Maybe reliability for the 5.0 . But the 3.5 has more power.
2.7 is the best, that’s what I have in my 2017 F-150 135k going strong.
@@dmandman9 most definitely like how they dont know the engine hp and trq numbers and the ecoboost hold up great with proper maintenance!
@@Foxbody302 i have a 2018 with 152k on it
@@Foxbody302 I think the 2.7 is the overall best choice for most people unless they need the maximum towing ability. It has proven dependable. And it gets the best fuel economy . And power is more than adequate for the vast majority of people.
We have a 5.0, 2.7 and a 3.5. 3.5 is hands down the most powerful in every way!!
My whipple 5.0 has the most power period 😂😂😂
@@smittysmith9509 adding a whipple to a regular coyote truck is over $10,000. Unless you bought the single cab XL model with a whipple installed from ford that’s an XL trim with absolutely no creature comforts for about $60,000. It’s not worth the money.
My Powerboost is tuned and I have over 600whp and 800wtq. That cost me around $2000 all in for the tune and some other bolt ons. You can’t beat the value the 3.5 offers. From factory it’s miles better than the 5.0 and most people probably won’t modify them.
5.0 is faster than the 3.5
@@na4valve stock vs stock. No it’s not lol
@@Michael_M991 where do you live? I have a bone stock 5.0 Crew cab 4WD truck that would love to run your stock 2.7 truck. Also if it’s not stock I will still run it.
I’m surprised the “techs” think the v8 is the most powerful, the 3.5 is more powerful and has way more torque at a much lower rpm
They are just wrong. Ford lets us know that the 3.5 is the most powerful. Driving it verifies it. They don’t read up on the product they work on. The 5.0 is simpler to work on. But they’re not as powerful as the 3.5.
I would pick the 5.0 but I hate the fact that they have cylinder deactivation since 2021.
my 5.0 does not have it, and its a 2022!
@@iMakeDatBedRock How?
@@Clarkeisawesome chip shortage i would assume lol
@@iMakeDatBedRock You lucked out big time if that's the case.
@@Clarkeisawesome win for me
I’ve owned both 3.5 and 5.0
Like my 3.5, loved the 5.0 and next truck will be a 5.0
why
@@bjornegan6421 reliability and easy of maintenance, 5.0s are pretty basic and easy to work on, the 3.5 isn’t horrible but there’s definitely more things I’ll probably let the ford techs do
The verdict is still out about the 5.0 cylinder deactivation and wet oil pump belt. The later hasn’t gone well in the past even with “Kevlar” belts. Also, the 5.0 doesn’t make more power than the 3.5 and is pretty much equal to the 2.7. They are all great engines if you maintain them well. My FIL’s Powerboost is pretty amazing. 22-26mpg and can power his roof & gutter machines, that’s hard to beat.