there's nothing balanced about his speech, yes he's remained truthful and objective but if he still cant be fair to Palestinians then the hell with him and his balanced approach. Palestinians have heard the hypocrisy of the west and the floundering support for a Nazi Jewish state hell bent on genocide, where all international laws are put to one side for the sake of civilising the barbaric East You reap what you sow!
@@MrSerpia How terminally twitter-brained do you have to be, to think that this speech wasn't balanced? Why is it unfair in your opinion, when someone as familiar with the situation as he is, doesn't scream FREEPS or some bullshit like that? Also "Nazi Jew state", good one chief
Of the statements I made, some third rate Nazi sympathizer wishes to call me out on name calling. BTW my opinion is just that and doesn't need a response, but I'm glad Nazi's are irked by it.
@@geoffreycrowther4070 why don't you address my other points, Or does the truth hurt, western hypocrisy and a western backed genocide, This Christian Jewish terror alliance that has over taken the globe, Zizek is a clever man, objective, truthful to certain degree, but not fair or balanced,
From Israel, I’m applauding Zizek for his intellectual integrity and uncompromising resistance to the tyranny of the dominant discourse. Both Palestinian and Jewish civilians have the right to live here in dignity and deserve much better leaders than the murderous Hamas and the criminal Ben-Gvir Netanyahu’s government.
And to be clear, you could swap 'criminal' and 'murderous' and it would still be true. Perhaps even more so, really, considering only one of the two enjoys recognized statehood and broad imperial support...
No hate man and you may find my question rude but how you can live with yourself knowing that your parents stole the land and for a half a century you government is committing an ethnic cleansing especially since jews are the one to know the suffering of genocide.
@@g.b.5803because "without your soul", you can't understand their struggles and sympathize for both parties. If you support only Israel, you wish for the genocide to the people of Palestine and it you only support Palestine, you wish for another anti semitic relocation of Jews after what they experience in the 2nd world war. It's basically a logical centrist take. It's a shame how incapable of you to understand such a simple point of view.
@@g.b.5803 NO ONE is schizophrenic for wishing PEACE. Do making war, genocide, terrorism, antisemitism/islamophobia/racism, colonialism, apartheid make more logical sens for you ?
There are victims of both sides. Take for example the much less ambiguous Ukranian war. Russian emigres are being treated like shit by for example the EU because they don't get refugee there. That may be tactics of war but despiccable nonetheless.
I am an Israeli Jew, that has always been an advocate of peace and keeping an open mind for my short 17 year life. Instead of signing up to the military, i tanked my resume by choosing to volunteer with disabled children, teaching them music, some of them Palestinian themselves. These past few weeks i have been the most depressed ive ever been, feeling cast aside by my former friends and a useless result of the war machine. I have been planning to commit suicide, and i still might, but this speech helped bring some light into my life again. I thank you, zizek, for speaking in a way that keeps me accountable yet does not treat me like human waste. I thank you for making me feel a bit more human again. May this war end soon. Sending love to all Palestinians, Israelis, and generally disillusioned people reading this.
Please choose life. Every single life matters. You matter. Such a kind heart and soul shouldn't leave this earth so soon. God bless you. Keep fighting for the truth and the innocents, the oppressed.
Life's always better, even through pain and difficulties you should choose life. There are always brighter days at some point down the line, even though they are not there yet, they will be at some point :)
We need more people like you in the world, true empathetic humans. It's hard to hold on to hope, but please choose life even when it may seem difficult, because people like you matter in making a difference. As someone else said, brighter days will come.
As a Palestinian, I dream of the day that arms are laid down and we live side by side and treat each other as humans. The ideologies of hating the other side regardless of who is right or wrong, must end. We do not want any more wars or people being kicked out of their homes. Our future generations rely on us making these changes NOW
That will not happen as long as most israelis see you as subhuman unworthy of what they’re worth. That’s why Israel is referred as an apartheid state. Beside deep healing cultural changes need to happen for that reality to materialize. I believe it is possible if there is a will to it
Israel has the power, nukes and USA army backing them, They just need courage to make peace, to concede defeat of their prehistoric strategy of occupation.
Your characterization of Israel is wrong. If it were an apartheid state an arab political party would not have been given the opportunity to disband the Israeli government, nor would arabs so overrepresented in important medical fields. (over half of Israeli dentists are arabs for example). Racism is a problem, but people dont see Arabs as subhuman. You are making people hate without good reason. @@trouaconti7812
Helli, I am Israeli and I do not see you as subhuman as people here like to say. Yes, there are a lot of evil Israelis among us. Fortunattely there are many who are not. Thank you for what you wrote. You are a human being, just like me.
If you have ever been called an anti-Semite you have come across this game, the anti-Semitic Zionists will try to gaslight you with relativism, "oh if you are against Israel then you support terrorists", etc.
"intellectuals" doesn't mean they can't be biased, misinformed or have ulterior motives. You can be an intellectual and still have the desire for cruelty and evil. Intellectualism is an amplifier, not some moral height.
As a dutch guy and just having studied this stuff for some time now (like say 20 years or more), i think you wont get rid of Ben Nitay that easily. When he speaks and is done and the camera zooms out, we can see some of the audience members in the front row. And one guy is there often. And his first name is Jacob, and his father or grandfather was the lord who received that specific declaration from another lord in Britain in 1917. And so since they are close to eachother, i do not think you will get rid of Nitay that easily.
You call him Bibi Netanyahu. I call him Ben Nitay. As i saw this video from the 70's or so in America where he was interviewed. Anyways, i think you will not get rid of him that easily because he is backed by certain people. And you can sometimes get a glimpse of his audience. When Bibi has given some speech or talk or what ever, sometimes the camera zooms out and shows who was on the front row directly infront of him. And that so happens to be mr Jacob a lot of times. You do know that family? The Family that received the declaration from the British Lord in 1917? Rothschild should ring a bell. Since the Lord Jacob himself is in the front row, i think it is safe to assume they know eachother. And i think that if you are backed by a Lord like that, you are settled. (like a Settler, hahaha, o, sorry) I do not mean this hateful or bad. It is just what it is. We all know the Rothschilds. It is no secret. Or not for those interested in what makes the world go round. @@daniellebabitz3890
You are an occupier, no israeli leader will find a solution because israelis are occupiers and palestinians (with all the right and common sense of the world) won't make peace with occupiers
There is no both sides. Israel is in the wrong. No one asked Israel to bomb and terrorize Hamas for the past 20 years. You can’t just act like Israel wasn’t begging to get hit back. The complete lack of accountability on Israel’s side necessitates it’s complete destruction. Israel has no way out of this, they are done
Really shows what the genocidal Israeli propaganda has pushed out there and how all the western countries that push this propaganda are complicit in this too
Totally this. He basically said we should care for innocent civilian victims on both sides and there are no heroes in this story. Wow how would I have come to this conclusion without Zizek... His rambling about cancel culture is also self explanatory.
This is not completely true sorry, Palestinian terror against Jews is not something new, but actually have happened for more than a hundred years, and it has contributed greatly to the rise of right wing extremism in Israel sadly
"Don't forget this dark obscure background" Indeed. THE MOMENT YOU ACCEPT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO FIGHT FOR BOTH SIDES YOU HAVE LOST YOUR SOUL!!!! Honest and Clear. His speaking up is 50% of free speech, the other 50% is being willing to listen and consider the integrated nuance... Thank you, Slavoj for being a fearless voice.
It’s a nonsense statement. Israel is sovereign, and like all sovereign states - you are only sovereign until the powers in the west becomes “concerned” . The implication is Israel can do what it needs to do to protect itself until the west decides they will intervene
Very brave man, all things considered. You can tell by his shaking it wasn't an easy statement to make in front of at least a few detractors in the audience.
@@user-jl2mx6zr5z haha exactly. it's sad how easily impressed people are. and how bad at logic they are. like really - this 20 min speech proves he's a great philosopher? lol
20mins making a point so basic it shouldn't even need to be made and he still gets heckled throughout. Strong contender for the most poisoned discourse in history.
Well said. The fact that saying both Israeli’s and Palestinians have a right to live in the country and be treated fairly and equally is so basic; yet the conflict is completely intractable and unlikely to be solved equitably. It’ll probably end with all nearly all Palestinians being expelled from Israel at some point in the future; either forcibly or because their existence is so intolerable that they’re forced to emigrate. The irony
Yeah, I see a certain amount of incapability, or unwillingness, to conceive reality as more complex and nuanced than black and white, or good versus evil. Polarization is the enemy of reason.
"Polarization is the enemy of reason." I like that but wonder if the enemy of reason entered first to create the conditions for polarization. Is it a chicken and egg situation?
@@smolderingtitan It's just a human condition I'm afraid. We don't have to view this from a nation vs nation or tribe vs tribe perspective. It's present everywhere, big corporations often don't view their workers as real people, they are expendable assets. Politicians view their own people as canon-fodder, voters or a problem etc. Heck there's even some families who view their own children as nothing more then financial security... Trough my work I've met a mother who made her three children into her own servants, using starvation and physical abuse to keep them in line.
You are not seeing the nuance and utility for black and white thinking, black and white thinking puts us in a state where we can act with passion and commitment. If we are going to be killed or harmed then choosing a side with confidence means that we demonstrate loyalty, are trusted, are willing to defend and attack and are more able to survive as a result of these things. Black and white thinking, having beliefs beyond realit, has made it possible for some people to survive, not always of course. When we are removed from the threat and danger then black and white thinking is not useful and some priveleged people are too selfish to do the thinking around this and to examine the nuances and the value of not commiting to the black and white thinking. Black and white thinking is typical to align ourselves (often politicaly) in a secure category, to put others is a threat category is to be vigilant against them whether that is proven to be needed or not.
@@connerdeking2617 You can't join our open-minded and infinitely loving group. I was in a graduate program with the most extreme end of this sort of thinking. Also, my family is hyper political and emotional people. I know this anthem like I know a nursery rhyme. The irony folds in on itself endlessly. The impotent anger of weak people.
@@connerdeking2617Woke culture can't conceive palestinians as anything more than victims. Angry palestinians who are tired of humilliation and want to exact bloody Revenge should be valid subjects of discourse, but they are marginalized because they don't fit the black or white narrative entirely.
@@sooperd00pthis critique applies to the inverse, “I hate everybody and nobody is welcome, if you hate everybody and think nobody is welcome well then we are a collective by default as we share the same outlook” It’s a paradoxical quality in groups that has always existed because individuals themselves are walking paradoxes. Your critique of “left” diversity and inclusion is aimed at the ideals and effects I feel. It’s aimed wrong, the critique should shift towards the culture of those groups. Your labeling them as “weak” has nothing to do with how they operate.
Ask Chomsky. Zizek is going to be defamed. Very Soon. German media has already started spinning lies about this very talk. He is threatening the powerful. They decide and it changes, those that speak about it get defamed, the easiest way to get rid of without a fuss. Chomsky has been banned from the Mainstream. So will Zizek, just wait. The Propaganda Lobby is strong. The German Axel Springer Company has advised to NOT IN ANY CASE SHOW A PRO PALESTINIAN VIEW.
The non-sense that heckler kept repeating "you can not compare this and that, it's relativism" is one of the core elements of fascism. For the last decade, people started to embrace this "relativism or what-aboutism(for cool people) is evil" ideology and keep throwing it out there in every single discussion when an opposition becomes voiced, so they can suppress further development of that opposing idea. It's basically the way fascism disregards, suppress and shuts-down any opposition in any way; exact same in nature, just worded differently, disguised. Some are aware of this as use it as they wish, some are not even aware of it and use it mindlessly without realizing how false, dangerous and inhumane it is. Fascism is just on the rise but with a different look, disguised as something else. If you find nothing wrong with suppressing, disregarding certain elements in a discussion and only want the hand-selected points(by you or your ideology) to be mentioned and discussed, you can also apply that same logic to people. You can disregard, suppress certain people, ethnicity and only want to include specific ones in your regime, ideology, discussion or whatever. You can then start writing laws and constitution based on race, ethnicity. These are the fundamental principles, building blocks of fascism, ultra-nationalism. Millions fell for this sinister, evil disguised as good movement, ideology in early 1900s and that ideology swept across the globe in just couple of years. Only good thing that ideology brings is more power, authority, resources to the leaders at the top, select-few; not the citizens or the common population.
A room jeering at Zizek for promoting unbiased analysis and rejection of blind violent hatred. This feels much akin to the discourse before WW2.. We truly have lost our souls, I fear that we will only reclaim them after we have climaxed and waded through years of blood and terror.
@@rosalind1635maybe you dont. Im not sure every person is the same spiritual entity. NPC’s are a big problem. Its like they literally can’t comprehend information outside of their pre approved sand box of ideas.
@@rosalind1635 Most rational non-psychopaths develop a soul sometime between realising the reality of true horror unleashed by the average man. The post-nut clarity after the war that rendered that moral majority unstirred by the propaganda of hatred. When we look around our smashed up living rooms, the broken looks on our loved ones, the empty bottles and we realise what we are capable of. We have a soul when we grip on to that part of ourselves that cries for something good and strong that can resist the influence of others who mean only to manipulate us out of our serenity and deploy our meanest instincts. Of course that goes only for the 80% or so of people who are are not psychopaths or heroes. That majority which can be swayed by the propaganda of either the 10% who are psychopaths who through being empty seek to consume all and manipulate the 80% into lending their energies to these Agents of fear, hate and holocaust. Or the 10% who radiate great works of peace and civilisation, those rare heroes who will always have a soul even in the midst of mass-delusion. Most of us will only accept the truth of the later type after we have felt the sting of being conned, robbed and abused by the former. Only when they can see with their own eyes what they have contributed too does horror for others become unpalatable.
Would have been a perfect fit in the powers that hovered in the region prior to the second war... A shame humanity does not wish to learn how to appeal to any degree of rationality. Really looking bleak. I'm hoping a lot of things were lost in translation for the crowd. This was a really unbiased speech with a very apologetic tone.
He puts the responsibility of us, who are not Palestinians and Israelis, in a single sentence. The specific way Israel responds to this is indeed our concern. And it should be the concern of everybody, who has heard the reaction of most Israeli politicans to October 7th - Mr. Netanyahu, Mr. Herzog, Mr. Bennett, etc. My empathy for the victims of the terrorist attacks and my sincere attempt at understanding the collective PTSD that Israel is going through - all of that cannot make me unhear the extreme vengefulness, the dehumanizing attitude towards the Palaestinians and the borderline genocidal undertones coming from Israel. We should be terrified by it. Inexcusable things are already happening and may soon become worse. To take on some political responsibility you do not have to understand the entire conflict, every single Arab-Israeli war, every aspect of occupation. Start by voicing your distrust in the innocence and purity of the motives of the Israeli politicians right now, demand the people of Gaza and their wellbeing not to be treated as a footnote. Expect your politicans to do the same internationally, they are not innocent bystanders.
When Hamas attacked and broke the fence - many civilian's came in with them. Murdered, kidnapped and loot everything in their sight. 200 Israelis were kidnapped to Gaza- and all videos showed cheering and joy in the streets of Gaza. I'm sure not every Jap that lived in Hiroshima was against or even cared or knew about USA or politics, but those Nukes sure solved the problem.
This conflict should be framed as a war. As a war, the discussion of civilian casualties is very different. Israel has held back for aged. And it hasn't of worked for Israel.
I agree with your tone. though like you said. we are on a collective shock, no country had its civilians murdered like this in this sudden fashion for many many years. some would say ever. but the earths history is full of atrocities on one thing I can help you. so I'm in Israel. and you said "voicing distrust in the innocence and purity of the motives of the Israeli politicans" lol. easy. so many of them have been acting corrupt to the very depths even before the attacks in this current gov. I don't know how 65 out of 120 votes in parliment were in favor of this deplorable government. but its the most corrupt we ever had. and it was moving very strongly to become a total 1984 dictatorship for the first time in our history. we don't need emotions to point at its faults, but facts. law suggestions. its all black on white. captured on video. though something that is missed out often, the leadership of hamas is worse. ours is corrupt, part of it hateful, some of it actually "ok", like regular, most is divisive, some extremist religious. Hamas is very densely focused on civilian murder and torture and the primitive notion of religious war. so even though ours failed miserably. remember their leadership is deeply warlike and hopeless. its about corrupting youth. while on our side there is also some degree of spreading hate and corrupting youth, but we are open and modern enough to have the usual worlds variety of opinion as ...any country would have. some atheists, some religious on varying degrees, some violent, some peaceful. and so on. Also. see the big picture. Putin could be involved with insurgents\some kind of move he installed in that massacre event. and many of us forget it and fall into a duality of Israelis vs palestinains. its so convenient for him that american attention is now not solely focused on him. think outside of the box too.
Am of Palestinian descent , my family lived in Jerusalem for thousands of years before they were kicked out in 1967 as refugees , and am talking about my mother and my mother not my 3rd degree family here . When I listen to this man , I don’t feel so much hatred anymore , such wise voices are never heard in the u just western societies . If people like this man lead western governments many many many lives on both sides would have have been saved .
I understand what you're trying to say but the issue is not with western societies only but it's all human societies. Nothing will change until we all change.
The early Muslim conquests or early Islamic conquests were initiated in the 7th century according to the modern history and to all the religious sources (initiated in the 7th century by Muhammad) that how the arabic people came to this land. Your "thousends of years" sentence increase a chance that you are more jewish as you think...(I wouldn´t ask where does your family tree exactly begin: in Judea under Rome, in a Kingdom of Israel?) Anyway it's unimportant, it´s a tragedy, if you family did nothing wrong (like collaboranitionism for example or breaking international law) and must leave. As israeli I am sure that it would be important for Israel to investigate such cases and to find as solution - from paying compensation to giving citiziensship. Still there ara above two million of arabic people in Israel who stayed and they are citiziens. They are well educated, arabic + hebrew speakers (much know more languages). As we see no one is deportated and no other israeli would say that somebody must be expelled. Arabic collegues of my mother who is a nurse work as med. personal and also care for injured people. Some arabic people have been died from rockets.
lol, am an Arab to begin with , not a Jew . Remember the Ishmael Israel thing ? Am the other side . Now here you are wrong in a lot of points , first of all Prophet Mohammed was dead when Jerusalem was taken back from the Romans , who btw had the biggest role in kicking Jewish people out of the holy lands , seems like they don’t like you guys as they burn you in Europe , kick you out whenever they have the chance , anyhow , you age confusing being an Arab and being Muslim . We lived in the holy lands since the bronze ages and maybe before , what about the canaans ?! The ashoris ? The Assyrians ?! They weren’t ancestors of Arabs ?! You think that Arab existence in the holy lands started 1300 years ago , and that is where you guys have it wrong . Arabs are not all Muslims to start with , we have Arab Jews and Arab Christians, which your military kills constantly . This modern Zionist terrorist illegal occupation of Palestine was started in 1947, after you were allowed to come to Palestine as refugees fleeing persecution in Europe by the Nazis , and we welcomed you and took you in and gave you jobs and life , in return you formed militant terrorist gangs like the Hagana، Irgun, Betar, shtern and so on, which if you look into their history most were started most racist European fanatics from Poland and Latvia and so on . And you talk about Arabs 1948, give them a choice , did they have a choice ?! Didn’t your grandparents commit ethic cleansing of Palestinians from 1936 till 1967 and still doing that today in Gaza and in Nablus and Hebron and else where of Palestine ?! Please don’t try to teach me history or ask about my family tree I know exactly who I am , and where I am from and where I will always belong…but do you ?!
@@gitarrenakzenteMaybe, just maybe there were people there, before the Arabs and have been living there until some Europeans came in to kick them out?
@@gitarrenakzente there was never a country or a state or a kingdom called Israel , Israel is the name of a man ( Jacob) , am sure you know who that is . I don’t and I would never say that there were no Jewish people in the holy land , of course there was , but they weren’t the only ones and they were never the majority . Once you understand that , and understand that the Zionist movement is a political colonial movement started by Britain and the west and the US , you can widen your perspective and start to understand that your real enemy , is your terrorist government that is committing war crimes on a daily basis .
It's strange how no one can say anything about Israel without first emphasising: "I fully condemn the Hamas attack, and Israel has the right to defend itself" But then no one insists that anyone prefaces any remarks against Hamas or the Palestinians with: "I fully condemn the illegal occupation and settlements of Palestinian land, and a Palestinian state has the right to exist"
" For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate." -- Death and eulogy of Ro'i Rothberg
Crazy honesty. That’s actually moral. The heckler is an absolute shit to have heard something like that and then claim he is relativising the violence. Absolute dishonest shit. It’s just painting the full picture of cause and effect, however demented the effect was.
"Beyond the furrow of the border, a sea of hatred and desire for revenge is swelling, awaiting the day when serenity will dull our path, for the day when we will heed the ambassadors of malevolent hypocrisy who *call upon us to lay down our arms* . Roi's blood is crying out to us and only to us from his torn body. Although we have sworn a thousandfold that our blood shall not flow in vain, yesterday again we were tempted, we listened, we believed. We will make our reckoning with ourselves today; we are a generation that settles the land and without the steel helmet and the canon's maw, we will not be able to plant a tree and build a home. Let us not be deterred from seeing the loathing that is inflaming and filling the lives of the hundreds of thousands of Arabs who live around us. *Let us not avert our eyes lest our arms weaken* . This is the fate of our generation. This is our life's choice - to *be prepared and armed , strong and determined* , lest the sword be stricken from our fist and our lives cut down."
The moment I saw Netanyahu declaring war with flags behind him, I could see him smiling. I saw a man that got rid of their internal problems (abolishing the judicial power) and getting a "common enemy" to justify any atrocities, I was really afraid for the end of the Israel as a Democracy and the massacre about to occur in Gaza
Netanyahu has never been able to conceal his duper’s delight smile. He did the same thing after September 11th. Every time he gets what he wants he expresses his glee
Believe it or not, as an Israeli (who is horrified at Israel's current government), this is Netanyahu's worst nightmare. He funneled money to Hamas so he can conserve an illegitimate regime without striving towards peace since it is indeed impossible with Hamas. What many don't understand is that this is simply put the worst disaster since the Shoah, it's a small country and everyone here knows someone who was either kidnapped or killed. What this means is that on the spot Netanyahu loses all of his local support, and since the sheer amount of victims is impossible to comprehend in Israeli standards, many of his voters were instantly affected in the worst way (just like any other population here including Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Druze etc. who have all suffered losses in this attack), this means that there is no possible scenario where Netanyahu survives this ordeal. Thinking this is something is wanted is lacking local context. It is clear to all Israelis that this is a "worst nightmare" scenario for all involved, especially considering how the right wing parties always were associated with security (it was thought by the right wing that such a government would greatly minimize terrorism, the opposite turned out to be true).
@@lockshI hope this is true, my fear is that people don't always hold the right people accountable when they can produce a common enemy to point at and offer them more vengeance as a solution. America has funded plenty of radical groups to help topple regimes they don't want in power and when it comes back to bite them, people's collective recollection seems to forget. They just want whoever can bite back the hardest.
Sending this video to the next person who tells me Zizek is a stand up comic and not a serious public intellectual. Such incredible moral clarity and lucidity. The urgency with which he speaks says a lot about the type of person he is. He never sacrifices intellectual rigour or his humanity.
And YET he is able to put the words sex and penis in such a speech and get some laughs out of it - so why be exclusive here, this man is a stand up comic AND a serious public intellectual!
It doesn't matter how many times one condemns Hamas, the moment they talk about humanity of Palestinians they will instantly be branded as an anti-semite or a "relativist" as that one heckler said. Israeli far right constantly equates the explanation of how a situation arises with justifying that situation. Explaining how the very existence of Hamas is a response to the decades long suppression of Palestinian's human rights is not the same as justifying or supporting Hamas, to claim otherwise is pure dishonesty. I applaud Zizek for cutting through the bullshit. Both the Israeli and the Palestinian people have the right to exist in peace and dignity.
Looking at Hamas under the lens of forming after decades of violence is a one-sided narrative. The basis for Netanyahu’s party ALSO formed after decades of violent from Arabs on Jews. The very early settlements of Jews were subject to intense violence and massacres by Arabs who took out their displeasure at the British policies on innocent farmers. It is this decade of unprovoked massacres that led to the formation of Jewish Zionist militias (which were basically a Jewish version of Hamas) that began attacking Arabs in order to stave off attacks against immigrant Jews AND Palestinian Jews. When the Arabs revolts happened, the British funded some of these militant groups, like Haganah, to help squash the Arab revolution. This is what set the stage for the 1948 war. To act as if Palestinians are just this poor persecuted group is a complete distortion of the history. That doesn’t justify what Netanyahu is doing, just as the history doesn’t justify the actions of Hamas. but it is not one-sided
I agree. However, as an Israeli and to my experience, it seems that a lot of people that are pro palestine are at the same time celebrating the Hamas atack on Israel. I am not sure about peoples ability to support Palestinians rights and at the same time condemning terror against Israeli civilians.
The one asking him if he's not relativizing was the Antisemitism Commissioner of the German state of Hesse. That should help to understand the mood in the room
tldr; He condemns the attack on Israel and affirms that actions are needed in order to ensure safety but warns that, to ensure peace, we must look at the underlying issues from both perspectives.
@@bjornjensen1309 Then you don't understand him. Let me put it simply - if you EVER blame only one side in this conflict - you are ADDING FUEL TO THE FIRE. I dearly hope you are young and can still grow out of that understandable - but corrupt mindset.
It is very unfortunate that evey single minute, he has to clarify that he condemns Hamas only not to be accused of antisemitism. This is very horrific that one can't freely express his ideas.
I agree. I can understand why many people have been getting wound up this month by spokespeople/commentators who have completely failed to say they condemn Hamas, but to listen to somebody clearly say that they condemn Hamas a few times and then just a few minutes after have a go at them as if they said they supported Hamas is just weird.
@@gozigoz5727 Absolutely not free to express our opinions in a frank and forward way. At least we all know we have authoritarian and suppressive governments. The hypocrisy is in those parts of the world where they claim they are the creators of freedom while someone as Zizek is not free to speak freely.
@@mujtabaal-hilo thank you for the honest answer. Still, your goverments need to change and it does not make it better, that they do not claim to be free. Even worse. Nobody can say anything that is not in line. Ecspecially women. At least Zizek was able to speak without the threat of prison or worse. So yes, there is space for betterment but arab countries need to t least come to this point.
well said but arising the universal in itself is based upon of a degree of rationality, and rationality is incompatible with the long term existence of a bourgeois state
@@circuitbreaker8314 No one is able to turn themselves off. But rarely is anyone capable of looking at things from different perspectives like Žižek. I think it can even be expressed mathematically, where our personal preferences are secondary. And one more important thing - it may be possible to "catch" him in some delusion, but not in a factual lie and concealment. It should be appreciated... Truth is a rarity today (even with a dose of delusion).
Terrorist don't appear in a vaccum. Hamas is a product of Israeli aggression and occupation of Palestine. Now Israel wants to blame and punish ordinary innocent Palestinians for the existence of Hamas instead of themselves.
A voice of reason. Absolutely rare as hens teeth now and drowned out deafeningly by social and corporate media. People need the isolation and solitude inherit in the experience of learning via literature to temper rational understanding. This could certainly devolve into a global conflict and people need to reflect on the severity of their opinions and actions in this context. Thank you Zizek
No, the booed him because a few days after a genocidal massacre he comes on, says in the first sentence he isn't trying to relativize and then goes on to relativize for the entirety of his speech.
@@simonl.6338 He condemned it explicitly several times, what are you talking about? But he did say we must think critically and not take away anyone's humanity and look at all the complexity. If you find that offensive then I am at a loss for words. We beed thinking now more than ever.
As soon as Israel cut off the water and food to Gaza they expanded the conversation about this massacre to include collective punishment of over a million children, they lost the moral high ground.
Israel lost their moral ground for in 2018 when I first became aware of their atrocities during my pilgrimage visit there. The difference between the Palestinians and Israelis was disgusting. It gone done on me when my so called Christian Church that I went it accepted how our Jewish guide tour was describing the Palestinians. He spoke of them like animals and the gullible people took it on board that "these Muslims are trying to take our holy land" I got back to the UK and started researching and i couldn't believe that my own country the UK/British was behind the initial conflict due to their double dealings. Research also shown that the israeli apartheid government was sponsoring Hamas in the 70/80s to wage war against Yaseer Arafat, so how dare they now call the same Hamas they created a terrorist group? Sure they didn't think one day a group you sponsored to hurt someone will surely come back to hurt you... My heart goes to all Palestinians, as a black African with history of slavery that lasted longer than what the Jews experienced in Germany, and still struggling to even get any of these colonial empires to apologise or to recognise the atrocities they committed and still committing in many parts of Africa, is sad to witness.... Israel lost the argument the moment they put Palestinians in an open prison. No one even in Africa is living like that. Being watched 24/7 by your oppressors,you have no rights to water, electricity, food and healthcare unless you are allowed it 😢.... The whole system need to be broken down and the map redrawn to favour Palestinians as well. Though the zionist ideology can no longer be evicted, however, their wickedness need to be removed if there's ever going to be peace... But guess what, U.S the world leader in killing of the innocents and a country that would rather sponsor killing of people in other countries than to provide total free healthcare to its citizens, is behind all of this. That country is causing so much atrocities around the world and they are behind this as well
@@moalllivesmatter Well said. I am glad Zizek gave his speech, but disgusted by the ones more interested in interrupting him than in learning from him.
The fact they even provided that is wild to me to begin with. Has that occurred in any other war in history? Did we paradrop supplies for the Germans into Germany during WW2?
the applause in the middle of his speech on excluding Palestinians from the issue while he actually wanted to emphasize that millions of Palestinians are the core of the issue shows what exactly the public wanted to hear. Glad that public intellectuals like Zizek would stay in his analytical ground.
@@jameslivanski2914 Palestinians want their country back? What country? The West Bank and Gaza? Because there was never ever a Palestinian state outside of those territories. Maybe they want the British empire back. Or the Ottoman empire. Or the Mamluk empire. Or the Roman empire. The modern Palestinian claim to what is today Israel is similar to the Serbian claim over Kosovo.
@@move2003ny It is the whole Country from River to the Sea… Palestinian Refugees will Return one day, will get a compensated according to the UN Resolutions & the Intl. Humanitarian Law… Jews in Nowadays Israel who immigrated in the 20th Century would have to learn how to assimilate
@@bjornjensen1309 I've seen all the comments you left on this video and they are all incredibly stupid. Zizek had more energy in this speech than your brain has produced in its entire lifetime.
"trying like hell to paint israel as an angel" Every news outlet immediately repeated the Hamas lie about Israel bombing the hospital causing 500-1000 dead without any verification, what are you even talking about?
I wouldn’t say all. I would say some western outlets are horrified by Hamas’ actions and it’s painted the coverage of the conflict. BBC can’t call Hamas a terrorist group, just a militant organization. And we see Al Jazeera gleefully painting the “zionists” as the opposite of angels. How much of media immediately declared the hospital explosion in Gaza a result of an Israeli air strike? Why does nobody talk about context when it’s in regard to Hezbollah, and the thousands of rockets pointed at Israeli civilians? It’s a territorial land dispute between groups in the levant, but there are broader actors in the region who are plainly antisemites who want to take advantage of the situation. Iran wants to cause an earthquake that would have the Jews swallowed. But do they have any love in their heart for the Sunni people in Gaza? Looketh in thy heart for thy know it to be true.
Strange. I constantly sea justifications of HAMAS actions in the western media or claims like "both sides bad". Despite popular stereotype Israel has terrible propaganda effectiveness. It is even incapable to defend Israel even in cases when HAMAS obviously spews primitive lies. The only language on which it is relatively effective is Hebrew. US, Russian, Arabic or even Ukrainian propaganda are more effective and they can make people believe even in obvious lies like "Ukraine is Neo Nazi dictatorship which kills all Russian speakers and all Ukrainians are actually Russians or Russophobe Nazis who need to be killed", "Russian soldiers are barbaric orcs who commit war crimes out of jealousy toward Civilized European Ukrainians", "Israel is an apartheid neo-colonial state which does to Palestinians the same as Nazis did to Jews". P.s. I am Russian speaking Israeli citizen, not Jewish by Halakha.
Always a safe bet to side with Zizek. There are times when wading through all the chaos and dispair life gives those who choose to wade through it, that it makes it all worth while to see a great mind express shared views and opinions. Zizek is a joy and I cannot speak enough about how much I appreciate his candor and comedy. Truly wonderful.
you know you're comment is ideological and Zizek would probably be critical your statement. Zizek is a human, and i love him and his many of arguments, but he will be wrong sometimes.
Israel has occupied and oppressed Palestinian land & its people for years. But one had to be soulless not to condemn the brutal attack on Israel. I applaud Zizek’s unbiased approach.
They haven't occupied gaza in years, they just controlled flow of weapons. Obviously not well. If you're thinking of electricity and water...take a moment and think please. What independent territory depends on their adversary for these necessities? They've had over a decade and plenty of money. Why didn't they spend any on electricity or well digging? Israel provided it for free.
@@ATCrogerwilcowhy would they accept a deal from a colonizers that gives them a portions of thier land and many many disadvantages , please reread the deal and tell me what you think
Saying "It was to be expected that the Hamas would come in existence and that they would lash out like that" is not the same as saying "Jews need to die."
As an Israeli man, i hope Mr. Zizek’s word would be heard and listened to deeply. Both Palestinians and Israelis deserve much better and braver leaders. Hopefully the situation will end with as little innocent casualties as possible💔
I don’t know if you follow the news, but already 7000 people have been killed in Gaza. I guess there are big demonstrations against this crime all over Israel now…
I get that he has to lace his speech with “Israel has the right to defend itself” to even be allowed to speak, but even that isn’t enough for the guy yelling in the audience- you must affirm that genocide is okay. Nothing less is acceptable to them. Which is why it’s pointless to give even an inch to these people- it will get you nothing. They have decided to repeat the cycle of violence and nothing will talk them out of it.
I'm not sure it's pointless, depending on your definition of 'giving an inch'. Consider that the reason you could hear one guy shouting from the audience was that everybody else in the audience was not shouting - they were listening to what Zizek was saying. If somebody's purpose is to get people to take the plight of Palestinians seriously, then spending 10% of the time talking about the needs of Israel in order to get a 10x larger audience is probably worth it. It's also worth it because it gives him the opportunity to persuade the pro-Israeli side. If he only talked about the problems facing Palestine then quite obviously nobody from the pro-Israeli side would be interested in listening.
If Israel wanted to genocide Palestinians, they could have done so at any point during the last 75 years. To say Israel is attempting to genocide the Palestinians of Gaza while it's population has increased immensely since the founding of Israel is laughable.
The heckler is not calling for the genocide of Palestinians. That's in your head. He seems concerned that talking about the deaths and pain in the palastenian side can be compared with the intentional massacare of Israelis. I don't belive zizak is making thay equivalency, but I get why the heckler is concerned with it.
@@TalGalili and so the "deaths and pain" of the palestinians are not intentional? the subjugation, occupation, the expulsions, the bombings, all of the tragedies suffered by the palestinian people at the hand of the israeli state over the past 80 years was just an accident? incidental, not relevant? are you being intentionally malicious, or just stupid?
The German public is completely out of its depth when it comes to Jewishness and Israel. Rotten to the core about their forefathers' guilt and unable to stand in solidarity with those suffering in the present and longing for a better future. My Palestinian friends who grew up in Germany share with me stories of what could be described as child abuse at the hand of their school teachers.
It really shows how most germans unfortunately haven't learned from the holocaust and its victims... These past days I've been asking myself what happened to "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority." especially with german politicians being against a ceasefire in gaza. When has humanity left us?
As an openly gay German, who was bullied by those „peace loving“ brethren from the Middle East, and spat at in my own birthplace, Munich, because I held my partner‘s hand in a public place, I firmly say that Germans are being abused every day and everywhere and not by right wingers, but by the above mentioned. Since I‘ve moved to Switzerland, I feel safe again, and my financial situation has improved drastically. And I can finally show my affection for my partner everywhere and not just in the safety of our own home. Douglas Murray wrote in his 2017 book „The Strange Death of Europe: Immigration, Identity, Islam“: „Rarely has history installed politicians, who hate their own people, as much as Angela Merkel hates the Germans. Thanks to her brainless intervention, Jews in Europe will be living in fear soon. Tomorrow it’ll be gays and lesbians and the day after everyone else.“ How right was he?! Those pathetic, brainless „Queers for Palestine“ should organise a Pride March in Gaza. Let’s see how that works out.
@@Sir_Typesalot There's Queer folk in Gaza it's just that they have bigger things to worry about than civil rights and their biggest threat aint hamas!
@@Sir_Typesalotthese "free Palestine" lemings don't realize that those people would love to free your head from it's body for not living their world view.
Zizek is incomparable. The simple truths are so clear and plain...but the problem with the hecklers it seems as if they hear only what they want to hear.
Bravo, Mr Zizek. I thank you for your great bravery, bolstered by your fearless intellect. If one wants peace, precisely this kind of nuanced analysis is essential: those who shout invective appear not to be interested in healing divisions.
Terrorist don't appear in a vaccum. Hamas is a product of Israeli aggression and occupation. Now Israel wants to blame and punish ordinary innocent Palestinians for the existence of Hamas instead of themselves.
I hope you and your family are safe. God does not seem to be in Gaza for the moment, just like he was not in Auschwitz so maybe just by force of sheer luck hang in there man. The Insanity of it all is incomprehensible
I believe in simple terms Zizek is trying to say “two wrongs don’t make a right” and he wants to exclude the result of this conflict of comparing who’s winning at what cost. Nobody wins outright in a war without taking losses.
@@carlsumalvico4353I think, He support Ukraine's struggle, just like he supports Palestinian struggle, but doesn't recognize Russian struggle within the Ukraine.
@@mynameismynameis666 He is still Slovene citizen and Slovenia or Yugoslavia were never soviet proxy, but TBH i have no idea what you said. Probably you wanted to say,'...of a former soviet proxy'. Only soviet proxy was and is, is Serbia. 'Josip Broz Tito fed up with Stalin sending assassins wrote openly, “Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle… If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send another.” '
@@vger9186In November 2020 the United Nations held a vote to have Palestine as a recognised country, Israel, USA and 5 other US allies voted against. To make it clear the whole world voted to see the conflict ending and recognise Palestine independent, instead Israel itself voted to keep the blockades open and keep its illegal colonies running on the west bank. The reaction from the resistance was to be expected.
the "however" is not about negating or weakening the condemnation though, it's an addition to it, in that what he is negating is the position that such a condemnation means carte blanche for Israel or erases the suffering of Palestinians. But yeah, it's a funny turn of words.
Do you think like Palestine was like Wakanda and a load of Jews turned up one day and starting blasting? Next you'll be shocked to learn Palestine is just what the Romans re-named the province of Judea in spite of the Jews.
It's not complicated. Either you accept violence as a legitimate way to resolve disagreements or you don't. If you don't, you can't choose a side in this very violent conflict, it is not going to resolve anything. But if you do, you have to accept that the opposition speaks the same language. And you can't complain that you are being beaten at your own game. But you can choose not to play. It may be the only way to not lose. If all it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing, I'll gladly choose and happily support evil. I much prefer "If you're not against us, you're with us" to "If you're not with us, you're against us." It's when people go out of their way to hurt others that things become violent. But of course that is easy to say when I'm not the one being bombarded.
zizek is like one of those people that people in the future a 100 years from now look back on and say damn he thinks like we do today and not like they think back then !
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there's nothing balanced about his speech, yes he's remained truthful and objective
but if he still cant be fair to Palestinians
then the hell with him and his balanced approach.
Palestinians have heard the hypocrisy of the west and the floundering support for a Nazi Jewish state
hell bent on genocide, where all international laws are put to one side for the sake of civilising the barbaric East
You reap what you sow!
@@MrSerpia How terminally twitter-brained do you have to be, to think that this speech wasn't balanced?
Why is it unfair in your opinion, when someone as familiar with the situation as he is, doesn't scream FREEPS or some bullshit like that?
Also "Nazi Jew state", good one chief
Of the statements I made, some third rate Nazi sympathizer wishes to call me out on name calling.
BTW my opinion is just that and doesn't need a response,
but I'm glad Nazi's are irked by it.
you can wipe your butt with your t-shirts
@@geoffreycrowther4070 why don't you address my other points,
Or does the truth hurt, western hypocrisy and a western backed genocide,
This Christian Jewish terror alliance that has over taken the globe,
Zizek is a clever man, objective, truthful to certain degree, but not fair or balanced,
From Israel, I’m applauding Zizek for his intellectual integrity and uncompromising resistance to the tyranny of the dominant discourse. Both Palestinian and Jewish civilians have the right to live here in dignity and deserve much better leaders than the murderous Hamas and the criminal Ben-Gvir Netanyahu’s government.
And to be clear, you could swap 'criminal' and 'murderous' and it would still be true. Perhaps even more so, really, considering only one of the two enjoys recognized statehood and broad imperial support...
That opinion seems to be lost in a sea of hyperbole right now.
well, i disagree. Why should jewish settlers get to live in stolen houses?
"Settlers and Native Americans have the right to live here in dignity" -Slavoj Zizek, 1830
No hate man and you may find my question rude but how you can live with yourself knowing that your parents stole the land and for a half a century you government is committing an ethnic cleansing especially since jews are the one to know the suffering of genocide.
“The moment you accept that it is not possible to fight for both sides at the same time, you have lost your soul” - ABSOLUTELY!!!
@@g.b.5803because "without your soul", you can't understand their struggles and sympathize for both parties. If you support only Israel, you wish for the genocide to the people of Palestine and it you only support Palestine, you wish for another anti semitic relocation of Jews after what they experience in the 2nd world war. It's basically a logical centrist take. It's a shame how incapable of you to understand such a simple point of view.
@@g.b.5803 You really should not have to ask that question………
@@g.b.5803 because reality is not binary. A war is not a football match
@@g.b.5803 NO ONE is schizophrenic for wishing PEACE. Do making war, genocide, terrorism, antisemitism/islamophobia/racism, colonialism, apartheid make more logical sens for you ?
There are victims of both sides. Take for example the much less ambiguous Ukranian war. Russian emigres are being treated like shit by for example the EU because they don't get refugee there. That may be tactics of war but despiccable nonetheless.
I am an Israeli Jew, that has always been an advocate of peace and keeping an open mind for my short 17 year life. Instead of signing up to the military, i tanked my resume by choosing to volunteer with disabled children, teaching them music, some of them Palestinian themselves. These past few weeks i have been the most depressed ive ever been, feeling cast aside by my former friends and a useless result of the war machine. I have been planning to commit suicide, and i still might, but this speech helped bring some light into my life again. I thank you, zizek, for speaking in a way that keeps me accountable yet does not treat me like human waste. I thank you for making me feel a bit more human again.
May this war end soon. Sending love to all Palestinians, Israelis, and generally disillusioned people reading this.
Please choose life. Every single life matters. You matter. Such a kind heart and soul shouldn't leave this earth so soon. God bless you. Keep fighting for the truth and the innocents, the oppressed.
Life's always better, even through pain and difficulties you should choose life. There are always brighter days at some point down the line, even though they are not there yet, they will be at some point :)
We need more people like you in the world, true empathetic humans. It's hard to hold on to hope, but please choose life even when it may seem difficult, because people like you matter in making a difference. As someone else said, brighter days will come.
Stay strong bro, Israel needs people like you who can see past ultranationalism. This war won't last forever.
יש לך לב טוב חבר. אתה אור בעצמך, מקווה שהמצב שלך ישתפר בקרוב. 🙏
As a Palestinian, I dream of the day that arms are laid down and we live side by side and treat each other as humans. The ideologies of hating the other side regardless of who is right or wrong, must end. We do not want any more wars or people being kicked out of their homes. Our future generations rely on us making these changes NOW
Thank you ❤
That will not happen as long as most israelis see you as subhuman unworthy of what they’re worth. That’s why Israel is referred as an apartheid state. Beside deep healing cultural changes need to happen for that reality to materialize. I believe it is possible if there is a will to it
Israel has the power, nukes and USA army backing them, They just need courage to make peace, to concede defeat of their prehistoric strategy of occupation.
Your characterization of Israel is wrong. If it were an apartheid state an arab political party would not have been given the opportunity to disband the Israeli government, nor would arabs so overrepresented in important medical fields. (over half of Israeli dentists are arabs for example). Racism is a problem, but people dont see Arabs as subhuman. You are making people hate without good reason. @@trouaconti7812
Helli, I am Israeli and I do not see you as subhuman as people here like to say. Yes, there are a lot of evil Israelis among us. Fortunattely there are many who are not. Thank you for what you wrote. You are a human being, just like me.
The man drenches his speech in apologia and still gets yelled at. Very telling. i thought this was a room full of intellectuals.
Zionism is anti-intellectual. It cancels it out.
just a few yell, they're just loud af
If you have ever been called an anti-Semite you have come across this game, the anti-Semitic Zionists will try to gaslight you with relativism,
"oh if you are against Israel then you support terrorists", etc.
"intellectuals" doesn't mean they can't be biased, misinformed or have ulterior motives. You can be an intellectual and still have the desire for cruelty and evil. Intellectualism is an amplifier, not some moral height.
@@yahiiia9269well said mate
As an Israeli, I approve this message. Many of us think that Netanyahu and his fasciat partners (Ben Gvir, Smotrich) must go. I hope we succeed.
As a dutch guy and just having studied this stuff for some time now (like say 20 years or more), i think you wont get rid of Ben Nitay that easily.
When he speaks and is done and the camera zooms out, we can see some of the audience members in the front row.
And one guy is there often.
And his first name is Jacob, and his father or grandfather was the lord who received that specific declaration from another lord in Britain in 1917.
And so since they are close to eachother, i do not think you will get rid of Nitay that easily.
@@bertjesklotepino I don't understand what you are referring to or trying to say
You call him Bibi Netanyahu.
I call him Ben Nitay. As i saw this video from the 70's or so in America where he was interviewed.
Anyways, i think you will not get rid of him that easily because he is backed by certain people.
And you can sometimes get a glimpse of his audience.
When Bibi has given some speech or talk or what ever, sometimes the camera zooms out and shows who was on the front row directly infront of him.
And that so happens to be mr Jacob a lot of times.
You do know that family? The Family that received the declaration from the British Lord in 1917?
Rothschild should ring a bell.
Since the Lord Jacob himself is in the front row, i think it is safe to assume they know eachother.
And i think that if you are backed by a Lord like that, you are settled. (like a Settler, hahaha, o, sorry)
I do not mean this hateful or bad. It is just what it is.
We all know the Rothschilds.
It is no secret. Or not for those interested in what makes the world go round.
@@daniellebabitz3890
Say Jesus is lord
@@bertjesklotepino legit question:
Are the members of the likud first degree descendants of the irgun members?
Peace and Love from Palestine to Zizek and to all of you, especially my Jewish brothers and sisters ❤ ✌🏼
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Wow, that means a lot - thank you! Peace and love to you too from Israel! 🇮🇱🕊🇵🇸
Love to Palestine and Israel
My greatest praise and support to people like you guys who just wish for peace and love to all
@@alex8491your hate is why such conflicts exist.
As an israeli, I agree with every word. We all deserve a better leadership and more brave voices such as this.
אמן
You are an occupier, no israeli leader will find a solution because israelis are occupiers and palestinians (with all the right and common sense of the world) won't make peace with occupiers
נכון מאוד
לגמרי
Well, you had Rabin. See what happened to him and no one ever dared or wanted to carry on his legacy.
"The moment you accept that it is not possible to fight for both sides at the same time, you lost your soul."
There is no both sides. Israel is in the wrong. No one asked Israel to bomb and terrorize Hamas for the past 20 years. You can’t just act like Israel wasn’t begging to get hit back. The complete lack of accountability on Israel’s side necessitates it’s complete destruction. Israel has no way out of this, they are done
Except there are 3 sides. There are Israelis, Palestinians, and Hamas. Or are Palestinians the same as Hamas?
@@vger9186 No, Hamas is on the extreme of one side, Palestinians are all over the place in between.
@@vger9186
Are the Israelis the same as LIKUD ? 🤔
There’s Natnyahu’s regime and then there are Israelis
All he said is basically "hey, Palestinians exist" and they still told him to stop talking znd boo him ... Lol, what a clown world
Israeli supporters have themselves turned into Third Reich. What a twisted sick transformation.
Really shows what the genocidal Israeli propaganda has pushed out there and how all the western countries that push this propaganda are complicit in this too
Totally this. He basically said we should care for innocent civilian victims on both sides and there are no heroes in this story. Wow how would I have come to this conclusion without Zizek... His rambling about cancel culture is also self explanatory.
This is not completely true sorry, Palestinian terror against Jews is not something new, but actually have happened for more than a hundred years, and it has contributed greatly to the rise of right wing extremism in Israel sadly
@@yoniarie4019and you say that as if Zionist terrorism and ethnic cleansing didn't lead to the Palestinian terrorism. Its chicken egg. Ffs.
"Don't forget this dark obscure background" Indeed. THE MOMENT YOU ACCEPT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO FIGHT FOR BOTH SIDES YOU HAVE LOST YOUR SOUL!!!! Honest and Clear. His speaking up is 50% of free speech, the other 50% is being willing to listen and consider the integrated nuance... Thank you, Slavoj for being a fearless voice.
"Israel has the full right to strike back, but how it does it is the concern of us all". That is so powerful.
Israel has 0 right to strike back. Zizek is an imperialist
It’s a nonsense statement. Israel is sovereign, and like all sovereign states - you are only sovereign until the powers in the west becomes “concerned” .
The implication is Israel can do what it needs to do to protect itself until the west decides they will intervene
Why does it have the right to strike back?
Powerful?
That's common sense.
I mean it's literally the mainstream view.
@@couldbe8348Against Hamas? Because they are holding their citizens captive. Against the Palestinian people? It doesn't.
I commend Mr. Zizek's courage to speak despite the hecklers.
Very brave man, all things considered. You can tell by his shaking it wasn't an easy statement to make in front of at least a few detractors in the audience.
@@obnoxiousoboehe has retardism so he shakes a lot. God bless him!
Best, Dean
he is sick bro...@@obnoxiousoboe
@@Grisch23 Maybe. Then again you can’t really tell.
@@obnoxiousoboeactually he said it himself those are ticks he gets when talking publicly
never seen zizek so passionate
He seems relatively healthy as well
It almost rivals the passion of his hot dog video. :)
Got a hair cut
Not since the Iranian womens protest last year at least!
He should stop talking for a few months. We don’t need these speeches now.
This speech proves why Zizek must be taken seriously as a great philosopher.
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I was thinking the same thing. This is one that will certify his reputation in history.
But what he said is not much different than what many others have said. How is this groundbreaking?
@JamesscareyatesIII - this may be one of the dumbest statements I've read in a while. You have a really low bar for what a "great philosopher" is
@@user-jl2mx6zr5z haha exactly. it's sad how easily impressed people are. and how bad at logic they are. like really - this 20 min speech proves he's a great philosopher? lol
How was this a scandal? This is one of the most sane, fair and balanced speeches that I have heared concerning this topic.
Tells you about the world order nowdays. Insanity everywhere
20mins making a point so basic it shouldn't even need to be made and he still gets heckled throughout. Strong contender for the most poisoned discourse in history.
Well said. The fact that saying both Israeli’s and Palestinians have a right to live in the country and be treated fairly and equally is so basic; yet the conflict is completely intractable and unlikely to be solved equitably. It’ll probably end with all nearly all Palestinians being expelled from Israel at some point in the future; either forcibly or because their existence is so intolerable that they’re forced to emigrate. The irony
The abysmal difference of intellect and humanitarian approach between Zizek's perspective in this speech and Jordan Peterson's "GIVE THEM HELL"
Jordan Peterson is a weasel. Calling him an intellectual is an insult to the word. It's like calling ben shapiro an adult.
Israel has been giving them hell, and in the process created devils. Nothing is more tragic in this situation than the corruption of the persecuted.
JP is intelligent but emotionally deeply troubled individual. He'll never manage to reach hight of his intellect due to his lack of personality.
@@aenohecheyenne2740intelligent is a stretch. He’s extremely close minded
well pointed out!
Žižek polishes humanity’s tarnished image. Proud to have him as a contemporary intellectual, philosopher and human!
Thankyou Prof. Norman Finkelstein to telling the truth.. about warsawa, Britain and Germany
Yeah, I see a certain amount of incapability, or unwillingness, to conceive reality as more complex and nuanced than black and white, or good versus evil. Polarization is the enemy of reason.
Ideology in a nutshell
"Polarization is the enemy of reason." I like that but wonder if the enemy of reason entered first to create the conditions for polarization. Is it a chicken and egg situation?
Always distrust people who say things/issues/problems are simple, black and white. They always lie or are ignorant at best
@@smolderingtitan It's just a human condition I'm afraid. We don't have to view this from a nation vs nation or tribe vs tribe perspective. It's present everywhere, big corporations often don't view their workers as real people, they are expendable assets. Politicians view their own people as canon-fodder, voters or a problem etc. Heck there's even some families who view their own children as nothing more then financial security... Trough my work I've met a mother who made her three children into her own servants, using starvation and physical abuse to keep them in line.
You are not seeing the nuance and utility for black and white thinking, black and white thinking puts us in a state where we can act with passion and commitment. If we are going to be killed or harmed then choosing a side with confidence means that we demonstrate loyalty, are trusted, are willing to defend and attack and are more able to survive as a result of these things. Black and white thinking, having beliefs beyond realit, has made it possible for some people to survive, not always of course. When we are removed from the threat and danger then black and white thinking is not useful and some priveleged people are too selfish to do the thinking around this and to examine the nuances and the value of not commiting to the black and white thinking. Black and white thinking is typical to align ourselves (often politicaly) in a secure category, to put others is a threat category is to be vigilant against them whether that is proven to be needed or not.
His criticism of cancel culture as rejecting those who don't fit a limited ideal for what constitutes inclusion as a tragic irony is spot on.
i did not understand this could you explain?
@@connerdeking2617 You can't join our open-minded and infinitely loving group.
I was in a graduate program with the most extreme end of this sort of thinking. Also, my family is hyper political and emotional people. I know this anthem like I know a nursery rhyme. The irony folds in on itself endlessly.
The impotent anger of weak people.
frankly it's so obvious it makes me sad people, 1 think he is wrong, 2 are surprised about it
@@connerdeking2617Woke culture can't conceive palestinians as anything more than victims. Angry palestinians who are tired of humilliation and want to exact bloody Revenge should be valid subjects of discourse, but they are marginalized because they don't fit the black or white narrative entirely.
@@sooperd00pthis critique applies to the inverse, “I hate everybody and nobody is welcome, if you hate everybody and think nobody is welcome well then we are a collective by default as we share the same outlook”
It’s a paradoxical quality in groups that has always existed because individuals themselves are walking paradoxes. Your critique of “left” diversity and inclusion is aimed at the ideals and effects I feel. It’s aimed wrong, the critique should shift towards the culture of those groups.
Your labeling them as “weak” has nothing to do with how they operate.
This is a man who will be remembered for a very long time
Ask Chomsky. Zizek is going to be defamed. Very Soon. German media has already started spinning lies about this very talk. He is threatening the powerful. They decide and it changes, those that speak about it get defamed, the easiest way to get rid of without a fuss. Chomsky has been banned from the Mainstream. So will Zizek, just wait. The Propaganda Lobby is strong. The German Axel Springer Company has advised to NOT IN ANY CASE SHOW A PRO PALESTINIAN VIEW.
i dont think many people today understand how based he is. truly one of the future greats
@@TheUA-camUser69this is genuinely the least based take I've seen. Pick a side nerd, that's based
The non-sense that heckler kept repeating "you can not compare this and that, it's relativism" is one of the core elements of fascism. For the last decade, people started to embrace this "relativism or what-aboutism(for cool people) is evil" ideology and keep throwing it out there in every single discussion when an opposition becomes voiced, so they can suppress further development of that opposing idea. It's basically the way fascism disregards, suppress and shuts-down any opposition in any way; exact same in nature, just worded differently, disguised. Some are aware of this as use it as they wish, some are not even aware of it and use it mindlessly without realizing how false, dangerous and inhumane it is. Fascism is just on the rise but with a different look, disguised as something else.
If you find nothing wrong with suppressing, disregarding certain elements in a discussion and only want the hand-selected points(by you or your ideology) to be mentioned and discussed, you can also apply that same logic to people. You can disregard, suppress certain people, ethnicity and only want to include specific ones in your regime, ideology, discussion or whatever. You can then start writing laws and constitution based on race, ethnicity. These are the fundamental principles, building blocks of fascism, ultra-nationalism. Millions fell for this sinister, evil disguised as good movement, ideology in early 1900s and that ideology swept across the globe in just couple of years. Only good thing that ideology brings is more power, authority, resources to the leaders at the top, select-few; not the citizens or the common population.
"whataboutism" has become one of my least favorite words of late
I am not sure if you are coitizing Zizek or the guy who shouted at him all the time.
clearly the guy shouting@@ArseneGray
You literally cannot discuss everything.
A room jeering at Zizek for promoting unbiased analysis and rejection of blind violent hatred. This feels much akin to the discourse before WW2.. We truly have lost our souls, I fear that we will only reclaim them after we have climaxed and waded through years of blood and terror.
When, exactly, did we have souls in the first place?
@@rosalind1635maybe you dont. Im not sure every person is the same spiritual entity. NPC’s are a big problem. Its like they literally can’t comprehend information outside of their pre approved sand box of ideas.
Brainwashed germans once again...
@@rosalind1635 Most rational non-psychopaths develop a soul sometime between realising the reality of true horror unleashed by the average man. The post-nut clarity after the war that rendered that moral majority unstirred by the propaganda of hatred. When we look around our smashed up living rooms, the broken looks on our loved ones, the empty bottles and we realise what we are capable of. We have a soul when we grip on to that part of ourselves that cries for something good and strong that can resist the influence of others who mean only to manipulate us out of our serenity and deploy our meanest instincts. Of course that goes only for the 80% or so of people who are are not psychopaths or heroes. That majority which can be swayed by the propaganda of either the 10% who are psychopaths who through being empty seek to consume all and manipulate the 80% into lending their energies to these Agents of fear, hate and holocaust. Or the 10% who radiate great works of peace and civilisation, those rare heroes who will always have a soul even in the midst of mass-delusion. Most of us will only accept the truth of the later type after we have felt the sting of being conned, robbed and abused by the former. Only when they can see with their own eyes what they have contributed too does horror for others become unpalatable.
@@rosalind1635 it is a metaphor. He does not mean it literally.
Those booers and hecklers are an absolute disgrace to the human race
Would have been a perfect fit in the powers that hovered in the region prior to the second war... A shame humanity does not wish to learn how to appeal to any degree of rationality. Really looking bleak. I'm hoping a lot of things were lost in translation for the crowd. This was a really unbiased speech with a very apologetic tone.
Hardly… they were permitted to orally protest by Zizek
He puts the responsibility of us, who are not Palestinians and Israelis, in a single sentence. The specific way Israel responds to this is indeed our concern. And it should be the concern of everybody, who has heard the reaction of most Israeli politicans to October 7th - Mr. Netanyahu, Mr. Herzog, Mr. Bennett, etc.
My empathy for the victims of the terrorist attacks and my sincere attempt at understanding the collective PTSD that Israel is going through - all of that cannot make me unhear the extreme vengefulness, the dehumanizing attitude towards the Palaestinians and the borderline genocidal undertones coming from Israel. We should be terrified by it. Inexcusable things are already happening and may soon become worse. To take on some political responsibility you do not have to understand the entire conflict, every single Arab-Israeli war, every aspect of occupation. Start by voicing your distrust in the innocence and purity of the motives of the Israeli politicians right now, demand the people of Gaza and their wellbeing not to be treated as a footnote. Expect your politicans to do the same internationally, they are not innocent bystanders.
When Hamas attacked and broke the fence - many civilian's came in with them. Murdered, kidnapped and loot everything in their sight.
200 Israelis were kidnapped to Gaza- and all videos showed cheering and joy in the streets of Gaza.
I'm sure not every Jap that lived in Hiroshima was against or even cared or knew about USA or politics, but those Nukes sure solved the problem.
This conflict should be framed as a war. As a war, the discussion of civilian casualties is very different.
Israel has held back for aged. And it hasn't of worked for Israel.
I get where you are coming from, but taking political responsibility does not only mean dismantling innocence on one side only
"Hear Hear!"
I agree with your tone. though like you said. we are on a collective shock, no country had its civilians murdered like this in this sudden fashion for many many years. some would say ever. but the earths history is full of atrocities
on one thing I can help you. so I'm in Israel. and you said "voicing distrust in the innocence and purity of the motives of the Israeli politicans"
lol. easy.
so many of them have been acting corrupt to the very depths even before the attacks in this current gov.
I don't know how 65 out of 120 votes in parliment were in favor of this deplorable government. but its the most corrupt we ever had. and it was moving very strongly to become a total 1984 dictatorship for the first time in our history. we don't need emotions to point at its faults, but facts. law suggestions. its all black on white. captured on video.
though something that is missed out often, the leadership of hamas is worse. ours is corrupt, part of it hateful, some of it actually "ok", like regular, most is divisive, some extremist religious. Hamas is very densely focused on civilian murder and torture and the primitive notion of religious war. so even though ours failed miserably. remember their leadership is deeply warlike and hopeless. its about corrupting youth. while on our side there is also some degree of spreading hate and corrupting youth, but we are open and modern enough to have the usual worlds variety of opinion as ...any country would have. some atheists, some religious on varying degrees, some violent, some peaceful. and so on.
Also. see the big picture. Putin could be involved with insurgents\some kind of move he installed in that massacre event. and many of us forget it and fall into a duality of Israelis vs palestinains. its so convenient for him that american attention is now not solely focused on him. think outside of the box too.
Am of Palestinian descent , my family lived in Jerusalem for thousands of years before they were kicked out in 1967 as refugees , and am talking about my mother and my mother not my 3rd degree family here .
When I listen to this man , I don’t feel so much hatred anymore , such wise voices are never heard in the u just western societies .
If people like this man lead western governments many many many lives on both sides would have have been saved .
I understand what you're trying to say but the issue is not with western societies only but it's all human societies. Nothing will change until we all change.
The early Muslim conquests or early Islamic conquests were initiated in the 7th century according to the modern history and to all the religious sources (initiated in the 7th century by Muhammad) that how the arabic people came to this land. Your "thousends of years" sentence increase a chance that you are more jewish as you think...(I wouldn´t ask where does your family tree exactly begin: in Judea under Rome, in a Kingdom of Israel?)
Anyway it's unimportant, it´s a tragedy, if you family did nothing wrong (like collaboranitionism for example or breaking international law) and must leave. As israeli I am sure that it would be important for Israel to investigate such cases and to find as solution - from paying compensation to giving citiziensship.
Still there ara above two million of arabic people in Israel who stayed and they are citiziens. They are well educated, arabic + hebrew speakers (much know more languages). As we see no one is deportated and no other israeli would say that somebody must be expelled. Arabic collegues of my mother who is a nurse work as med. personal and also care for injured people. Some arabic people have been died from rockets.
lol, am an Arab to begin with , not a Jew .
Remember the Ishmael Israel thing ? Am the other side .
Now here you are wrong in a lot of points , first of all Prophet Mohammed was dead when Jerusalem was taken back from the Romans , who btw had the biggest role in kicking Jewish people out of the holy lands , seems like they don’t like you guys as they burn you in Europe , kick you out whenever they have the chance , anyhow , you age confusing being an Arab and being Muslim .
We lived in the holy lands since the bronze ages and maybe before , what about the canaans ?! The ashoris ? The Assyrians ?! They weren’t ancestors of Arabs ?! You think that Arab existence in the holy lands started 1300 years ago , and that is where you guys have it wrong .
Arabs are not all Muslims to start with , we have Arab Jews and Arab Christians, which your military kills constantly .
This modern Zionist terrorist illegal occupation of Palestine was started in 1947, after you were allowed to come to Palestine as refugees fleeing persecution in Europe by the Nazis , and we welcomed you and took you in and gave you jobs and life , in return you formed militant terrorist gangs like the Hagana، Irgun, Betar, shtern and so on, which if you look into their history most were started most racist European fanatics from Poland and Latvia and so on .
And you talk about Arabs 1948, give them a choice , did they have a choice ?! Didn’t your grandparents commit ethic cleansing of Palestinians from 1936 till 1967 and still doing that today in Gaza and in Nablus and Hebron and else where of Palestine ?!
Please don’t try to teach me history or ask about my family tree I know exactly who I am , and where I am from and where I will always belong…but do you ?!
@@gitarrenakzenteMaybe, just maybe there were people there, before the Arabs and have been living there until some Europeans came in to kick them out?
@@gitarrenakzente there was never a country or a state or a kingdom called Israel , Israel is the name of a man ( Jacob) , am sure you know who that is .
I don’t and I would never say that there were no Jewish people in the holy land , of course there was , but they weren’t the only ones and they were never the majority .
Once you understand that , and understand that the Zionist movement is a political colonial movement started by Britain and the west and the US , you can widen your perspective and start to understand that your real enemy , is your terrorist government that is committing war crimes on a daily basis .
Zizek has the sanity that the world needs.
His perversions excuse your own. A tribe for beasts of no nation.
And I am afraid he has the sanity that both authorities in this conflict are lacking.
He is an extremely sane mad person
@@move2003nyIn an insane world, being sane is the only thing left for a madman to be.
@@davidwuhrer6704 so true
Not always a fan of Zizek but wow, finally someone speaking sense in this hellish world of ours.
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Exactly.
He’s been speaking sense from the beginning.
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I got goosebumps. I am speechless, he said everything that has to be said. So much respect. Thank you Žižek!
It's strange how no one can say anything about Israel without first emphasising:
"I fully condemn the Hamas attack, and Israel has the right to defend itself"
But then no one insists that anyone prefaces any remarks against Hamas or the Palestinians with:
"I fully condemn the illegal occupation and settlements of Palestinian land, and a Palestinian state has the right to exist"
" For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate." -- Death and eulogy of Ro'i Rothberg
Crazy honesty. That’s actually moral. The heckler is an absolute shit to have heard something like that and then claim he is relativising the violence. Absolute dishonest shit. It’s just painting the full picture of cause and effect, however demented the effect was.
"Beyond the furrow of the border, a sea of hatred and desire for revenge is swelling, awaiting the day when serenity will dull our path, for the day when we will heed the ambassadors of malevolent hypocrisy who *call upon us to lay down our arms* .
Roi's blood is crying out to us and only to us from his torn body. Although we have sworn a thousandfold that our blood shall not flow in vain, yesterday again we were tempted, we listened, we believed.
We will make our reckoning with ourselves today; we are a generation that settles the land and without the steel helmet and the canon's maw, we will not be able to plant a tree and build a home. Let us not be deterred from seeing the loathing that is inflaming and filling the lives of the hundreds of thousands of Arabs who live around us. *Let us not avert our eyes lest our arms weaken* .
This is the fate of our generation. This is our life's choice - to *be prepared and armed , strong and determined* , lest the sword be stricken from our fist and our lives cut down."
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What an incredibly moving eulogy.
The moment I saw Netanyahu declaring war with flags behind him, I could see him smiling. I saw a man that got rid of their internal problems (abolishing the judicial power) and getting a "common enemy" to justify any atrocities, I was really afraid for the end of the Israel as a Democracy and the massacre about to occur in Gaza
Netanyahu has never been able to conceal his duper’s delight smile. He did the same thing after September 11th. Every time he gets what he wants he expresses his glee
Believe it or not, as an Israeli (who is horrified at Israel's current government), this is Netanyahu's worst nightmare. He funneled money to Hamas so he can conserve an illegitimate regime without striving towards peace since it is indeed impossible with Hamas. What many don't understand is that this is simply put the worst disaster since the Shoah, it's a small country and everyone here knows someone who was either kidnapped or killed. What this means is that on the spot Netanyahu loses all of his local support, and since the sheer amount of victims is impossible to comprehend in Israeli standards, many of his voters were instantly affected in the worst way (just like any other population here including Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Druze etc. who have all suffered losses in this attack), this means that there is no possible scenario where Netanyahu survives this ordeal. Thinking this is something is wanted is lacking local context. It is clear to all Israelis that this is a "worst nightmare" scenario for all involved, especially considering how the right wing parties always were associated with security (it was thought by the right wing that such a government would greatly minimize terrorism, the opposite turned out to be true).
@@lockshI hope this is true, my fear is that people don't always hold the right people accountable when they can produce a common enemy to point at and offer them more vengeance as a solution. America has funded plenty of radical groups to help topple regimes they don't want in power and when it comes back to bite them, people's collective recollection seems to forget. They just want whoever can bite back the hardest.
@@lockshBut does he know that?
Netantahu is in more trouble because of this shit, not less. The people are healing though.
I have never seen Zizek this anxious and disturbed... And there's a reason for that
Sending this video to the next person who tells me Zizek is a stand up comic and not a serious public intellectual. Such incredible moral clarity and lucidity. The urgency with which he speaks says a lot about the type of person he is. He never sacrifices intellectual rigour or his humanity.
Grounded in rational and emotion.
And YET he is able to put the words sex and penis in such a speech and get some laughs out of it - so why be exclusive here, this man is a stand up comic AND a serious public intellectual!
He takes a really long time to say sweet fuck all 😂
@@feral_orc ....
It doesn't matter how many times one condemns Hamas, the moment they talk about humanity of Palestinians they will instantly be branded as an anti-semite or a "relativist" as that one heckler said. Israeli far right constantly equates the explanation of how a situation arises with justifying that situation. Explaining how the very existence of Hamas is a response to the decades long suppression of Palestinian's human rights is not the same as justifying or supporting Hamas, to claim otherwise is pure dishonesty. I applaud Zizek for cutting through the bullshit. Both the Israeli and the Palestinian people have the right to exist in peace and dignity.
Soon antisemite will mean nothing as it was used indiscriminately time and time again…
Looking at Hamas under the lens of forming after decades of violence is a one-sided narrative. The basis for Netanyahu’s party ALSO formed after decades of violent from Arabs on Jews. The very early settlements of Jews were subject to intense violence and massacres by Arabs who took out their displeasure at the British policies on innocent farmers. It is this decade of unprovoked massacres that led to the formation of Jewish Zionist militias (which were basically a Jewish version of Hamas) that began attacking Arabs in order to stave off attacks against immigrant Jews AND Palestinian Jews. When the Arabs revolts happened, the British funded some of these militant groups, like Haganah, to help squash the Arab revolution. This is what set the stage for the 1948 war. To act as if Palestinians are just this poor persecuted group is a complete distortion of the history. That doesn’t justify what Netanyahu is doing, just as the history doesn’t justify the actions of Hamas. but it is not one-sided
@BlooDCoMPlex I couldn’t agree more with you!!
I agree. However, as an Israeli and to my experience, it seems that a lot of people that are pro palestine are at the same time celebrating the Hamas atack on Israel. I am not sure about peoples ability to support Palestinians rights and at the same time condemning terror against Israeli civilians.
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Would you like to be a Palestinian instead?
Never seen Mr Zizek so upset. He is shaking.
To be frank, *I* was also shaking by the end of this video… and I’m half his age.
Nope always shook and rubbed his nose
He feels this with his whole mind and body, the passion seeps out. He truly is one of a kind
The one asking him if he's not relativizing was the Antisemitism Commissioner of the German state of Hesse. That should help to understand the mood in the room
@@joined_ Thanks for the additional info. Oh crap, why am I not surprised such a comissioner is not good at nuanced thought?
tldr; He condemns the attack on Israel and affirms that actions are needed in order to ensure safety but warns that, to ensure peace, we must look at the underlying issues from both perspectives.
Zizek hardly ever disappoints with his clarity! Thank you!
Incredibly brave man, especially in the current political climate..
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he is risking nothing
@@cropframe definitely risking his life
@@jej_x Zero risk, he's being very careful and diplomatic, constantly reading quotes.
Everyone dies, but not everyone gets to make a living from standing on principles.@@jej_x
my respect for him went up even further
Mine went down
@@bjornjensen1309 Then you don't understand him. Let me put it simply - if you EVER blame only one side in this conflict - you are ADDING FUEL TO THE FIRE. I dearly hope you are young and can still grow out of that understandable - but corrupt mindset.
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If the conflict is one side with their boot on the neck of another then how exactly is that a conflict?
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75 years!
This crowd is there to listen and that there are people interrupting, professor was definitely professional and his response was valid
He handled the crowd so well.
It is very unfortunate that evey single minute, he has to clarify that he condemns Hamas only not to be accused of antisemitism. This is very horrific that one can't freely express his ideas.
The government of Israel can never ever be criticized . Despite their hardships, and horrors, they always pull the anti Semitic race card.
I agree. I can understand why many people have been getting wound up this month by spokespeople/commentators who have completely failed to say they condemn Hamas, but to listen to somebody clearly say that they condemn Hamas a few times and then just a few minutes after have a go at them as if they said they supported Hamas is just weird.
How do people freely express their opinion in your country?
@@gozigoz5727 Absolutely not free to express our opinions in a frank and forward way. At least we all know we have authoritarian and suppressive governments. The hypocrisy is in those parts of the world where they claim they are the creators of freedom while someone as Zizek is not free to speak freely.
@@mujtabaal-hilo thank you for the honest answer.
Still, your goverments need to change and it does not make it better, that they do not claim to be free. Even worse. Nobody can say anything that is not in line. Ecspecially women. At least Zizek was able to speak without the threat of prison or worse. So yes, there is space for betterment but arab countries need to t least come to this point.
If anything, his position is anti-relativistic. Properly Universal.
well said but arising the universal in itself is based upon of a degree of rationality, and rationality is incompatible with the long term existence of a bourgeois state
@@thee-wastegamer4044 Cheers.
I'm not here to argue for the long-term existence of a Capitalist state.
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Whatever you think of Žižek, he is still one of the greatest and purest minds of today.
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You think that because it alignes with your bias. Reflect yourself and your biases
@@circuitbreaker8314 No one is able to turn themselves off. But rarely is anyone capable of looking at things from different perspectives like Žižek. I think it can even be expressed mathematically, where our personal preferences are secondary.
And one more important thing - it may be possible to "catch" him in some delusion, but not in a factual lie and concealment. It should be appreciated...
Truth is a rarity today (even with a dose of delusion).
lol
I'd rather not think of him this way
Most excellent and enlightening talk from one of my very favourite modern philosophers!
Great speech. Sometimes courage is just opening your mouth.
Terrorist don't appear in a vaccum. Hamas is a product of Israeli aggression and occupation of Palestine. Now Israel wants to blame and punish ordinary innocent Palestinians for the existence of Hamas instead of themselves.
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A voice of reason. Absolutely rare as hens teeth now and drowned out deafeningly by social and corporate media. People need the isolation and solitude inherit in the experience of learning via literature to temper rational understanding. This could certainly devolve into a global conflict and people need to reflect on the severity of their opinions and actions in this context. Thank you Zizek
They literally booed him for saying "Palestinians are humans too".
No, the booed him because a few days after a genocidal massacre he comes on, says in the first sentence he isn't trying to relativize and then goes on to relativize for the entirety of his speech.
@@simonl.6338 He condemned it explicitly several times, what are you talking about? But he did say we must think critically and not take away anyone's humanity and look at all the complexity. If you find that offensive then I am at a loss for words. We beed thinking now more than ever.
@@simonl.6338 So is anything other than "Hamas bad, Israel good" relativising to you??
As soon as Israel cut off the water and food to Gaza they expanded the conversation about this massacre to include collective punishment of over a million children, they lost the moral high ground.
Israel lost their moral ground for in 2018 when I first became aware of their atrocities during my pilgrimage visit there. The difference between the Palestinians and Israelis was disgusting. It gone done on me when my so called Christian Church that I went it accepted how our Jewish guide tour was describing the Palestinians. He spoke of them like animals and the gullible people took it on board that "these Muslims are trying to take our holy land"
I got back to the UK and started researching and i couldn't believe that my own country the UK/British was behind the initial conflict due to their double dealings. Research also shown that the israeli apartheid government was sponsoring Hamas in the 70/80s to wage war against Yaseer Arafat, so how dare they now call the same Hamas they created a terrorist group? Sure they didn't think one day a group you sponsored to hurt someone will surely come back to hurt you...
My heart goes to all Palestinians, as a black African with history of slavery that lasted longer than what the Jews experienced in Germany, and still struggling to even get any of these colonial empires to apologise or to recognise the atrocities they committed and still committing in many parts of Africa, is sad to witness.... Israel lost the argument the moment they put Palestinians in an open prison. No one even in Africa is living like that. Being watched 24/7 by your oppressors,you have no rights to water, electricity, food and healthcare unless you are allowed it 😢....
The whole system need to be broken down and the map redrawn to favour Palestinians as well. Though the zionist ideology can no longer be evicted, however, their wickedness need to be removed if there's ever going to be peace...
But guess what, U.S the world leader in killing of the innocents and a country that would rather sponsor killing of people in other countries than to provide total free healthcare to its citizens, is behind all of this. That country is causing so much atrocities around the world and they are behind this as well
@@moalllivesmatter Well said. I am glad Zizek gave his speech, but disgusted by the ones more interested in interrupting him than in learning from him.
The fact they even provided that is wild to me to begin with. Has that occurred in any other war in history? Did we paradrop supplies for the Germans into Germany during WW2?
@@moalllivesmatterexcellent comment. I just couldn’t agree more with you.
Indeed.
the applause in the middle of his speech on excluding Palestinians from the issue while he actually wanted to emphasize that millions of Palestinians are the core of the issue shows what exactly the public wanted to hear. Glad that public intellectuals like Zizek would stay in his analytical ground.
Timestamp please
Yeah. Great point. Both sides desire this conflict to go on actually
@@yilguy AKA Palestinians want their country back and Israelis want the rest of Palestinian land
@@jameslivanski2914 Palestinians want their country back? What country? The West Bank and Gaza? Because there was never ever a Palestinian state outside of those territories. Maybe they want the British empire back. Or the Ottoman empire. Or the Mamluk empire. Or the Roman empire.
The modern Palestinian claim to what is today Israel is similar to the Serbian claim over Kosovo.
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It is the whole Country from River to the Sea… Palestinian Refugees will Return one day, will get a compensated according to the UN Resolutions & the Intl. Humanitarian Law… Jews in Nowadays Israel who immigrated in the 20th Century would have to learn how to assimilate
2:18 “BDS: Boycott, Divest, and So On” is a wildly underrated line
12:47 my man really tried to heckle Zizek only to find out the hard way that Zizek’s got hands
Wow, what an intelectual giant!!! Compasionate before everything!! Thank you for speaking for the humanity!!!
Man, he's still got it
Nope. Tired and old. Irrelevant Rebel
@@bjornjensen1309lol
@@bjornjensen1309 I've seen all the comments you left on this video and they are all incredibly stupid. Zizek had more energy in this speech than your brain has produced in its entire lifetime.
It's nice to hear a genuine approach. All media here is trying like hell to paint israel as an angel.
"trying like hell to paint israel as an angel" Every news outlet immediately repeated the Hamas lie about Israel bombing the hospital causing 500-1000 dead without any verification, what are you even talking about?
I wouldn’t say all. I would say some western outlets are horrified by Hamas’ actions and it’s painted the coverage of the conflict. BBC can’t call Hamas a terrorist group, just a militant organization.
And we see Al Jazeera gleefully painting the “zionists” as the opposite of angels. How much of media immediately declared the hospital explosion in Gaza a result of an Israeli air strike?
Why does nobody talk about context when it’s in regard to Hezbollah, and the thousands of rockets pointed at Israeli civilians?
It’s a territorial land dispute between groups in the levant, but there are broader actors in the region who are plainly antisemites who want to take advantage of the situation. Iran wants to cause an earthquake that would have the Jews swallowed. But do they have any love in their heart for the Sunni people in Gaza? Looketh in thy heart for thy know it to be true.
They are anything but angels that’s for sure.
Strange. I constantly sea justifications of HAMAS actions in the western media or claims like "both sides bad". Despite popular stereotype Israel has terrible propaganda effectiveness. It is even incapable to defend Israel even in cases when HAMAS obviously spews primitive lies. The only language on which it is relatively effective is Hebrew. US, Russian, Arabic or even Ukrainian propaganda are more effective and they can make people believe even in obvious lies like "Ukraine is Neo Nazi dictatorship which kills all Russian speakers and all Ukrainians are actually Russians or Russophobe Nazis who need to be killed", "Russian soldiers are barbaric orcs who commit war crimes out of jealousy toward Civilized European Ukrainians", "Israel is an apartheid neo-colonial state which does to Palestinians the same as Nazis did to Jews". P.s. I am Russian speaking Israeli citizen, not Jewish by Halakha.
Biblical angels from the Old Testament? Wherever they appear, genocide follows.
"Without any ifs or buts"
"HOWEVER..."
Exactly
what he said is purely humanitarian, but if you say this at german book fair it becomes controversal
Hearing Zizek speak is always a pleasure. He's sober, thorough and uncompromising.
sober... let's not get ahead of ourselves here
@@_rares9321exactly 😂
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@@_rares9321 lol
Jews have been living in that land even 100s of years before Muhammad the barbarian was even born
Always a safe bet to side with Zizek. There are times when wading through all the chaos and dispair life gives those who choose to wade through it, that it makes it all worth while to see a great mind express shared views and opinions.
Zizek is a joy and I cannot speak enough about how much I appreciate his candor and comedy. Truly wonderful.
Zizek admits that pedophilia is one of the greatest sins. Yet he admits to it openly.
Not a guy I'd call it a safe bet to side with.
@@Dalrocwait - WHAT???
@@Dalroc I have found no such evidence. Maybe you'd like to provide some to backup your claim?
@@DalrocPlease provide source for that claim.
you know you're comment is ideological and Zizek would probably be critical your statement. Zizek is a human, and i love him and his many of arguments, but he will be wrong sometimes.
Israel has occupied and oppressed Palestinian land & its people for years. But one had to be soulless not to condemn the brutal attack on Israel. I applaud Zizek’s unbiased approach.
They haven't occupied gaza in years, they just controlled flow of weapons. Obviously not well. If you're thinking of electricity and water...take a moment and think please. What independent territory depends on their adversary for these necessities? They've had over a decade and plenty of money. Why didn't they spend any on electricity or well digging? Israel provided it for free.
Palestinian leadership rejected peace and statehood that was available during peace talks in 2000, 2001, 2008, and 2014.
And the violence perpetrated by Hamas in the wake of those talks is the reason there's a wall there now.
@@ATCrogerwilcowhy would they accept a deal from a colonizers that gives them a portions of thier land and many many disadvantages , please reread the deal and tell me what you think
@@ATCrogerwilco😂😂😂
Saying "It was to be expected that the Hamas would come in existence and that they would lash out like that" is not the same as saying "Jews need to die."
This man is light and sunshine in the dark place like earth!
the certainty of his beliefs is evident by the infrequency of his usual tics
As an Israeli man, i hope Mr. Zizek’s word would be heard and listened to deeply. Both Palestinians and Israelis deserve much better and braver leaders. Hopefully the situation will end with as little innocent casualties as possible💔
I don’t know if you follow the news, but already 7000 people have been killed in Gaza. I guess there are big demonstrations against this crime all over Israel now…
wow as an israeli citizen i want to thank you for this. it really helped me understand how i think about the situation.
I get that he has to lace his speech with “Israel has the right to defend itself” to even be allowed to speak, but even that isn’t enough for the guy yelling in the audience- you must affirm that genocide is okay. Nothing less is acceptable to them. Which is why it’s pointless to give even an inch to these people- it will get you nothing. They have decided to repeat the cycle of violence and nothing will talk them out of it.
I'm not sure it's pointless, depending on your definition of 'giving an inch'. Consider that the reason you could hear one guy shouting from the audience was that everybody else in the audience was not shouting - they were listening to what Zizek was saying.
If somebody's purpose is to get people to take the plight of Palestinians seriously, then spending 10% of the time talking about the needs of Israel in order to get a 10x larger audience is probably worth it.
It's also worth it because it gives him the opportunity to persuade the pro-Israeli side. If he only talked about the problems facing Palestine then quite obviously nobody from the pro-Israeli side would be interested in listening.
reminds you of those german rallies back in the day, don't it
If Israel wanted to genocide Palestinians, they could have done so at any point during the last 75 years. To say Israel is attempting to genocide the Palestinians of Gaza while it's population has increased immensely since the founding of Israel is laughable.
The heckler is not calling for the genocide of Palestinians. That's in your head.
He seems concerned that talking about the deaths and pain in the palastenian side can be compared with the intentional massacare of Israelis.
I don't belive zizak is making thay equivalency, but I get why the heckler is concerned with it.
@@TalGalili and so the "deaths and pain" of the palestinians are not intentional? the subjugation, occupation, the expulsions, the bombings, all of the tragedies suffered by the palestinian people at the hand of the israeli state over the past 80 years was just an accident? incidental, not relevant? are you being intentionally malicious, or just stupid?
respect, this could be one of the founding fathers of a new world if there will be any years ahead.
One of the best zizek talks I’ve seen in a while
Well done! We need your voice more than ever!
Bravo, Žižek!!! Moj naklon do poda!! Hvala beskrajno.....Svaki intelektualac, osobito javna osoba, mora istupiti na ovaj način......
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Apsolutno!
Samo da malo bolje savlada jezik svojih gospodara🏴🏴🏳️🌈
I admire how he got some laughs out of this terrible situation
Dirty jokes
The German public is completely out of its depth when it comes to Jewishness and Israel. Rotten to the core about their forefathers' guilt and unable to stand in solidarity with those suffering in the present and longing for a better future. My Palestinian friends who grew up in Germany share with me stories of what could be described as child abuse at the hand of their school teachers.
It really shows how most germans unfortunately haven't learned from the holocaust and its victims... These past days I've been asking myself what happened to "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority." especially with german politicians being against a ceasefire in gaza. When has humanity left us?
I can only remember that video of Norman Finkelstein dunking on a german girl
As an openly gay German, who was bullied by those „peace loving“ brethren from the Middle East, and spat at in my own birthplace, Munich, because I held my partner‘s hand in a public place, I firmly say that Germans are being abused every day and everywhere and not by right wingers, but by the above mentioned.
Since I‘ve moved to Switzerland, I feel safe again, and my financial situation has improved drastically. And I can finally show my affection for my partner everywhere and not just in the safety of our own home.
Douglas Murray wrote in his 2017 book „The Strange Death of Europe: Immigration, Identity, Islam“: „Rarely has history installed politicians, who hate their own people, as much as Angela Merkel hates the Germans. Thanks to her brainless intervention, Jews in Europe will be living in fear soon. Tomorrow it’ll be gays and lesbians and the day after everyone else.“ How right was he?!
Those pathetic, brainless „Queers for Palestine“ should organise a Pride March in Gaza. Let’s see how that works out.
@@Sir_Typesalot There's Queer folk in Gaza it's just that they have bigger things to worry about than civil rights and their biggest threat aint hamas!
@@Sir_Typesalotthese "free Palestine" lemings don't realize that those people would love to free your head from it's body for not living their world view.
When Zizek condemned Russia for attacking Ukraine no one batted an eye, but now everyone loses his shit
that stupid person interrupting, saying stupid things with such arrogance kinda pisses me off.
22:14 There was referred only one stupid, when Zizek called Arafat an extremely stupid ❤
He's the Anti-Semitism commissioner for the Land of Hesse to give some context
I didnt realize this was in Frankfurt. Explains the heckler
Heckler was an American,...
Zizek is incomparable. The simple truths are so clear and plain...but the problem with the hecklers it seems as if they hear only what they want to hear.
Bravo, Mr Zizek. I thank you for your great bravery, bolstered by your fearless intellect. If one wants peace, precisely this kind of nuanced analysis is essential: those who shout invective appear not to be interested in healing divisions.
From Palestine i say to Slavoj Zizek thank you!
Terrorist don't appear in a vaccum. Hamas is a product of Israeli aggression and occupation. Now Israel wants to blame and punish ordinary innocent Palestinians for the existence of Hamas instead of themselves.
I hope you and your family are safe. God does not seem to be in Gaza for the moment, just like he was not in Auschwitz so maybe just by force of sheer luck hang in there man. The Insanity of it all is incomprehensible
Many Blessings and prayers to you from USA I am sorry for your treatment and support
You ❤
22:14 no thank you when Zizek called Arafat an extremely stupid
@@musley7819people are real. god is not
When he made his first provocation, he said, 'In a society structured like what?
Like a beehive.
waben (in german), honeycomb
Thx for asking, captions didn't get it either.
Respect for speaking up in such a tense political climate
I believe in simple terms Zizek is trying to say “two wrongs don’t make a right” and he wants to exclude the result of this conflict of comparing who’s winning at what cost. Nobody wins outright in a war without taking losses.
I trust Zizek.
mostly, just not on ukraine
@@mynameismynameis666 Wait what did he say about Ukraine?
@@carlsumalvico4353I think, He support Ukraine's struggle, just like he supports Palestinian struggle, but doesn't recognize Russian struggle within the Ukraine.
as a slovene former citizen of a soviet proxy, he can never acknowledge the russians being on the defense @@micixduda
@@mynameismynameis666 He is still Slovene citizen and Slovenia or Yugoslavia were never soviet proxy, but TBH i have no idea what you said.
Probably you wanted to say,'...of a former soviet proxy'.
Only soviet proxy was and is, is Serbia.
'Josip Broz Tito fed up with Stalin sending assassins wrote openly, “Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle… If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send another.” '
If this atrocity happened once to Israel, you have to wonder who it’s been happening to the rest of the time in this conflict.
What’s been happening is that the Arab Islamic world cannot accept their humiliating defeat in war, and Islam commands them to do jihad.
@@vger9186 bro is this a serious comment or it's a parody on american/israeli propaganda 💀
@@yuliusseraph4973 irredentism is cancer, when we are defeated we have to accept it, start working together and move on
@@vger9186In November 2020 the United Nations held a vote to have Palestine as a recognised country, Israel, USA and 5 other US allies voted against. To make it clear the whole world voted to see the conflict ending and recognise Palestine independent, instead Israel itself voted to keep the blockades open and keep its illegal colonies running on the west bank. The reaction from the resistance was to be expected.
@@vger9186lol. we've got some expert on islam and history here.
I missed Žižek during the pandemic, but great he’s back!
As a israeli soldier, i agree with every word, thank you zizek
ACAB
Brave man great speech, we must find it in our hearts to find justice for all to achieve long term peace
Fiat justitia et pereat mundi
"I unconditionally condemn the Hamas attack without any if or buts... however." man Slavoj is the best
understanding = / = approving
Sad, no timestamp?
@@missh1774it’s the first thing he says lol
the "however" is not about negating or weakening the condemnation though, it's an addition to it, in that what he is negating is the position that such a condemnation means carte blanche for Israel or erases the suffering of Palestinians.
But yeah, it's a funny turn of words.
You can tell Slavoj doesn't think he's better than anybody, he actually heard the hecklers out and responded without vitriol.
How annoying those who interrupt the conference to argue from their emotions... a little objectivity, people!
How can an occupier claim " it has the right to defend itself". what about the right of the occupied to defend itself?
How can one declare war on a people with no army? At least define it properly.
Do you think like Palestine was like Wakanda and a load of Jews turned up one day and starting blasting?
Next you'll be shocked to learn Palestine is just what the Romans re-named the province of Judea in spite of the Jews.
@@bjornjensen1309 what a nonsensical question, especially when considering how many rockets there are in Gaza at all times lol
Best Zizek ever!
Worst ever
Slavoj Zizek is not only one of the most intelligent academics out there, he is also one of the bravest.
At the risk of being accused of ying-yang either/or analyzing this very complex problem he stood his ground against those who try to simplify it.
It's not complicated. Either you accept violence as a legitimate way to resolve disagreements or you don't. If you don't, you can't choose a side in this very violent conflict, it is not going to resolve anything. But if you do, you have to accept that the opposition speaks the same language.
And you can't complain that you are being beaten at your own game.
But you can choose not to play. It may be the only way to not lose.
If all it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing, I'll gladly choose and happily support evil. I much prefer "If you're not against us, you're with us" to "If you're not with us, you're against us." It's when people go out of their way to hurt others that things become violent.
But of course that is easy to say when I'm not the one being bombarded.
zizek is like one of those people that people in the future a 100 years from now look back on and say damn he thinks like we do today and not like they think back then !
OMG he didn't quote Lacan in the first five minutes! Way to go Slavoj!!
Glad to know BDS stands for "boycott, divest and so on..."
"Without any ifs and buts"... "however..."