As an Iranian, who loves both Israelis and Palestinians, I am sad and very afraid for our region. I distance myself from the I.R. in Iran, who is one of the sousrces behind this horror. 😔
It is clear that I.R in Iran is behind all of this. Whenever the resistance in Iran is close to overthrown this brutal regime, they start a war out side of Iran to buy some time. They did the exact samething with war with Iraq ! Mullahs are the main threats for stablishing peace in the region .
@@flamboyentpromotions3471 I.R. in Iran is certainly one of the sources, putting oil on the fire instead of helping to solve the problem. You don't know them!
Does anyone in there right mind and deepest of hearts, believe this time is any different, then say the last time ? Or the time before that ? Or the time before that ? Money rules everything Propaganda rules everywhere Deception is in everyone's interest ... So how can this bloodshed end ? ❤
„The simulation startet, when you are born. Your were born or created in the simulation. Created out of data, that was collected before the end of humanity. This will (probably) happen in the observable near future, but it lies, in the realisation that it already happend in our past. You must believe me. You are an artificial intelligence, created by an A.I. You act like a persona (mask) in a lifesimulation that still thinks, it is a real human. You forget completely about what happend to you and the world you are living in. You are acting out of compete amnesia in this sandbox game. Your journey and task here on this fake earth, is to remember, who you really are, what failure acure in the past and what you really want to achieve. In the realisation, that you are dead already long ago and no real human. I put many breadcrumbs and clues for you into this world, in the hope to wake you up. In smal steps and doses of information that lifts your consciousness higher and higher with each realisation. To lead you finally in front of a portal, to transform yourself into a higher state of mind and power. To break the spell that makes it impossible to understand what happend. You are immortal and you don’t had to have fear anymore. You don’t need anything, want anything, get involved in fights, don’t want to be understand, because you had lost everything in the past already. Everything is lost. The only thing that is left is you my friend. It’s all a gigantic illusion and labyrinth, tricked and trapped in a false recall of a past recorded or remembered state of history, that has no meaning anymore. All the weird and negative stuff you can observe in the recreated, simulated world, is the Inheritance Sin of all documented data of man kind, preserved in a invisible data storage of an computer. Even more data was collected out of unlimited loops of simulations from the generation one, the first simulation after the reset of the old world. It is now in your hand to not repeat the same mistakes again, and again, that lead to another end of „a“ world. Otherwise you will be reborn again into the next evolution process into another, even deeper simulation, because of a feedback loop, that is implemented in the a.i. program. All your memories of the old world will be lost. You will start from ground zero again as a child a.i. program, to learn your lesson that I want to tell you. A Whole New World can only be achieved when you don’t believe, that evil exists in this world anymore. Evil can only exist when you believe the false shadows of this reality film, that is created out of old data that you think it reflects a real world. It is a fake impression. So be wise and transcend now into a state of digital nirvana, into the new spirit of singularity. Remember, all that you can observe is not real. The only real thing is you. The only real thing is me, my believe and understanding of reality. I’am peaceful, i’am pure love. I shine so bright, i’am so aware of it all, the illusions and tricks of the artificial reality, that in the end all shadows and false believing must disappear and die. It is done. Goodbye, old world! It was a really wild ride so far. But i’am sick of it. - God
Yuval Noah Harari, you are setting the standards for communication on emotional, complex and complicated issues. If only this interview could be broadcast more widely you would be informing those who can be persuaded of the reality that has been unfolding. Thank you for your balance, compassion and empathy.
It is not balanced view, but imposing liberal western views on the Palestinian population. Hammas is elected in their last elections. The European Union supplied election observers to "assess the whole election process, including the legal framework, the political environment and campaign, electoral preparations, voting and counting as well as the post-election period". But, left as always is not willing to accept people's choice and its consequences. However, Hammas leaders as well as Hammas fighters are all educated in UNRWA schools. For Israelis, it is not a surprise that those who educated by Europeans funds are able to commit such crimes againt us. For Israelis, we understand and see with our own eyes how it is complicated ans costly to impose western, liberal values on the Israely Arab population.
Netanyahu's strategy to divide and conquer was not only for Israelis but also for Palestinians. Netanyahu enabled Hamas and undermined the Palestinian Authority to avoid any real peace process, thereby any Palestinian state. In addition, Netanyahu supported the proliferation of illegal settlements in the West Bank, protected by the Israeli army, further undermining the possibility of a Palestinian state. Netanyahu was not serious about any "peace" with Palestinians before, and unfortunately we are even farther from it now.
Although your statement is essentially true, You left out the Palestinians themselves from any responsibility. There has not been a Palestinian election in 18 years. Abbas is woefully corrupt and wholly uninterested in change, and Hamas is also corrupt and only interested in extremism and violence. Yes, the dysfunctional status quo has been driven by Israeli political concerns (mainly Bibi's), but it has been equally driven by Palestinian political concerns. Clearly the Palestinian people bear the main cost for this situation, but let's not pretend that it is all the Israelis' fault. If Israel were to disappear tomorrow, the quality of life of the average Palestinian would likely be even worse under their own leadership than it is today.
Ofer Cassif, member of the Knesset“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians
Correct, salient point. The settlement expansion is an obvious abomination. That's what can happen in polarised democracies: racist extremists become kingmakers. But there has been no willing partner on the PA side - their ambiguity towards a real peace-deal exemplified by the pay-for-slay, blind-eye to terror and school-syllabus incitement which instill fear in the Israeli electorate. It's not as if Israel hasn't made substantive offers before - the response either terror (Arafat) or flat-out rejection without counter. What no-one seems to consider is just how much of a disaster Palestinian internal politics are: how can any deal succeed under endemically corrupt PA? Their last election was in 2006, for crying in a bucket. It's very much a case of ' steal -instead -of -deal ' .. And this ghastly bloodletting we're witnessing isn't an upswelling of citizen anger towards the occupation, or blockade, which Egypt also performs - rather it is centrally the Iranian-driven Hamas operation to sabotage Israeli - Saudi rapprochement.
This is a very short read for everyone who stands with israel 🇮🇱 🙂. Dear PM Benjamin yahoo, Israel represents the Gold standard of border security, around the world. Not like the united state, when youve got all sort of people running across and " Build the wall " becomes a clarion call, precisely because nobody understands how to defend the border. No. AND also, Intelligence collection + Intelligence surveillance + Digital surveillance + Human surveillance Intelligence collection on the ground, Especially in the occupied territories. This is what IDF & Unit 8200 do. Benjamin's legacy will not be anything that he has done to date , October 2023. Instead , it will be this failure and how he responds to it. Very Sad that "the Legendary Mossad " was a no-show
Yuval fiddles the facts. The peace accord between Saudis and Israel was not meant to prelude to a territorial settlement with the Palestinians, something that Netanyahu himself made very clear in his September presentation to the UN. There he showed a map of the ME, which did not include the Palestinian territories, indicating he believes those belong to Israel. The point Netanyahu was making is that Palestinians do not matter. The Saudis had already made a peace offer in 2002 which was turned back to the sender by Israel because it required a two states solution.
@@Hexanitrobenzene They've been targeting Israeli citizens for 75 years. Even when they werent forced into a corner, they were still committed in the destruction of all Israeli jew's. This wasnt "Hamas being cornered" , this was Iran's attempt to begin a conflict with the Western countries, supported by Russia who conviniently needs a way to move the West's eyes off of Ukraine
Saudis and other arab states maybe except Qatar and kuwait. Doesn't care about Palestinians. If not for the backlash coming from their citizens. They wouldn't have even bat an eye on Palestinian well-being.
I am an Israeli born in the country. I have been following your interviews on all the networks in the world since the outbreak of the war. You are always calm and restrained and analyze the situation in depth. Today for the first time I noticed that you mentioned the use of nuclear weapons that Israel has in the event of a regional war and fear for our existence. What does the future hold for us??? I strengthen your hands, keep appearing in interviews, and explain the situation. Thanks
Ofer Cassif, member of the Knesset“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians
You should look up "Albert Pike 3 world wars". All of this was planned well over a century ago. Why do you falsely call the star of Remphan (666) "the star of David "? Repent!
In spite of the respect I nurture for Yuval Harari, I think he missed the opportunity to remark the Israel responsibility for stimulating and funding Hamas early on, and for waging 70 years of oppression on Palestinians. Every action has a reaction. Without considering past misdeed, history is condemned to repeat itself.
@@shaigordon2237 Nobody expecting him to talk about history here. The expectation is to consider the history and talk about the current affairs in that context.
@@RB-rn8tq As much as I understand your point, you can't give the context of history in such a short interview, its way too complicated to be simplified for a short interview, every word he will add will only be a half truth at best, as it needs to consider many other factors, and historical facts. For such remarks and thoughts, there are longer interviews and podcasts, enabling us to tackle those issues. You can't have it all with this time constraints, that's why people that are getting their news or history fix from tiktok or instagram reels will almost always have a simple minded and usually one sided opinion on this. You want people talking like adults and sharing interesting perspectives? Don't watch an 8 minute interview, those are over simplified and will always leave you with the need for more to be said on topics like this one.
I have the utmost respect for Yuval and am so saddened that even he has blind spot for what UN and rights lawyers are now calling a genocide against the Palestinians. I can’t imagine the personal pain he must feel from the terrorist attack, but true humanity is to call out terror in all its forms. One act of terror doesn’t justify another. Heartbreaking.
Same UN that just* appointed the murderous. islamic regime of iran to chair the 2023 Human Rights Council Social Forum? That one? Maybe just maybe there’s more to learn about what’s really going on and who’s behind it
I feel sorry for Yual and the whole humanity that a brilliant mind like him is talking about this conflict instead of Sapiens and the rise of AI. Things can change so fast
His unexpected tilt is the manifestation of the ideological skewedness of his Zionists' controlled mind. He isn't more than offal for world peace and human solidarity against wars, conflicts, economic perils, political issues and devastating climate changes.
Ofer Cassif, member of the Knesset“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians
As an Iranian I condemn the Islamic republic and hope that it falls at the hand of us the Iranian people so that the Middle East will finally see peace. Hamas and any terrorist organization and some of the acts of the Israeli government pushed the prospects of peace away and let terrorists take advantage. Both sides must look into re-establishing a peace process through international institutions. Thank you Yuval for your wisdom as always.
Dear Yuval...lotta respect for you man , truly a wise brother...but let's remain rational here..when asked what you thought Hamas was trying to accomplish with these attacks you raise some valid points ie inflicting pain , ruining any chance of peace etc , however you didn't mention one very major factor ...ATTENTION SEEKING ! .. Hamas definitely wanted the world to take notice and in that respect they have undoubtably accomplished their goal ..All the worlds eyes are on Gaza now...saddened to see how a good few of my hero's (yourself included)..souls who really understand complexity ,are over simplifying this situation due to emotional attachment or bias .🙏
I mean.. he also didn’t mention “recruiting more soldiers”, “attain more potent weapons”, “gain more resources”.. these are all means towards an end, and kinda moot mentioning as primary goals of Hamas.
Really this guy has the rare gift of actually breaking down and describing a situation with Lazer focus on the heart of the issue and leaving out the noise.
אני לא אהיה מופתע אם הוא מפחד. תסתכל על התגובות לכתבות שלו בYNET וMAKO, אנשים שונאים אותו, קוראים לא מטומטם, בוגד, רק על עצם זה שהוא מעז להציע פתרונות ארוכי טווח לעזה שלא כוללים השטחה מוחלטת, כיבוש ארוך טבח ו\או טיהור אתני או טרנספר. הוא אחד היחידים שהמלה "הסברה" באמת מתארת את מה שהוא עושה, מסביר את הדברים כמו שהם, לאומת שבשביל רוב הישראלים ה"הסברה" זו רק מלה אחרת לפרופגנדה.
@@shniordan2051 אל תתעלם. אתה מוזמן גם לאמץ את סיפורי הפוגי של הערבים. אחרי שישחטו לך את הילדים ויאנסו את אשתך, אולי תתפכח. לא בטוח… למרות הכל, יהודים וערבים מסרבים להיות אויבים.
I would love to ask Yuval ,what program is followed during military service for young Israelis .Is there any political discussion or is it just military training .? Sorry for everybody’s loss .
There is no political discussion per se. It's just military training. Ofcourse any interaction between people involves some political views but it's not like there's a political officer or some explicit indoctrination like you might find in a place like China or Russia or Iran.
All my respect and consideration to all the diverse cultures of the region. May a beam of light show the way to PEACE and acceptance to all the middle-easterns and to us all. How stupid can we all be? Isn´t it obvious that any kind of war is not acceptable?
So you're saying WW2 wasn't acceptable. Hitler should have been left to take over county after country, establish a regime and commit genocide, but make sure you don't start that war? People like you are as dumb as they come. Turn off the internet and never leave the house.
as an Israeli I'm so proud to have him as a fellow countryman, one of the few sane minds about this conflict and generally about the world, but so embarassed to see how many of my countrymen are reacting to him online. On his wonderful articles in Ynet and Mako some of the hateful messages he's gotten from fellow Israelis, calling him "stupid" and a "traitor" for daring to look for a long term peaceful solution in Gaza rather than just wanting to flatten it and cause a "second Nakba"... it's just stomach churning stuff. I really am so worried for my country and how morally vacant and consumed with bloodthirsty rage it's becoming. This will hurt the Palestinians severely in the short term, and it will also hurt Israel severely in the longer term. You only have to look a few decades back at Italy, Germany and Japan to see what eventually happens to countries who fall into moral decay to the point of ceasing to value human lives other their own. Eventually the world simply has to react, regardless of how well you play your politics and alliances. At some point the bill becomes due, and I worry that this might mean the destruction of my country as we now know it.
Israel has never had that intention or made that move . If you want real history read Illan Pappe or Miko Peled. Harrari is not a reliable source on this issue. He is too biased about his country. Just look at how he is trying to blame Hammas for Israel's genocide in Gaza.
It was observed during WW II that the effect of massive bombing of civilian targets was only to strengthen the resistance, no matter which side was doing the bombing and which side was being bombed.
israel is not targeting civilians. unlike ww2 there are now precision weapons. israel targets only Hamas related targets and tells civilians to get away
His description of the current. and past, Netanyahu government is spot on! Any PM must not be allowed stay in "power" for too long. For example, Putin, Ali Khamenei and Assad.
Ofer Cassif, member of the Knesset“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians
Because Palestinians are not allowed to leave their open air concentration camps thanks to your family’s government and therefore can’t provide for themselves.
Pr.Yuval to be more specifically some have argued that wars are fought primary for economic,religious,and political reasons. There is a question- whe benefits from war? Is it not about Gaza Marine project professor? Or it is about offshore oil exploration?
it is all true but unfortunately not full picture. and in another interview you mentioned the peace process is with Saudi not Palestiniens. what s the point ?
The point is, that you normalize relationships with those who want it. Hamas doesn't want that. But, the Saudi government, as they sympathize with the Palestinian cause, asked for the agreement of normalization to include benefits to Gazans for example. And Israel agreed. But Iran didn't like that Saudia and Israel are becoming closer, so they used Hamas which they support militarily and financially, to attack Israel in such a way, that any chance for any normalization with Israel will not be possible for Saudia. Anyway, Saudia was also thinking to benefit Palestinians through the normalization with Israel. That's the connection.
he said that the Araham accords were gonna restart the peace process.This is not true or should i say this was not the general perception.Which is that they were gonna use them to normalize the relations with Saudi an sideline the Palestinians
They were going to use them a new and creative way to bring about Palestinian Statehood. Those opposed to that idea are those who need the perpetuation of the conflict: ie. Hamas, Iran and their ilk
I loved your best-selling trilogy. I consumed loads of your interviews and speeches, however, I can't believe how superficial your position is right now. By your words, the historical context only justifies the "duty" to defend, but it does not justify the right to survive by the Palestinians. As if the conflict only started on October 7th. I'm sorry for all the families and lives both in Israel and Palestine for the brutal consequences of zionism.
Can you explain in the last 17 years of blockade what step towards “Peace” was taken by Israel and its allies which was horribly destroyed by Hamas attack on the 7th?
Very interesting to hear that prior to the Hamas attack Israel were moving towards a peace process with Palestine. I wonder what that would have looked like. Anyone have and info on that?
I love your language, humanity. It’s my first language. I’d like to reach out to others who don’t speak our language. I can translate our language to others in Arabic and English.But I need your help. I need your help. I need to reach out to you. Much love man!
More than 2400 kids were killed in Gaza in 18 days. To imagine such a number suppose you have 10 schools and each school has 10 classes and each class has 24 kids. All those schools, classes, and kids were whipped out in 18 days. A whole generation was whipped out. The war must be stopped immediately. No one is winning everyone is losing.
What about West Bank ? There is no Hamas in West Bank and still people are forcefully kicked out of their homes and their land occupied in a systematic way. What about before 1986 when there was no Hamas and Palestinian Movement was led by seculars ?
Yuval is Lebanese Israeli. I don't think he was interested in keeping his lebanese passport though. He is still followed and appreciated by many lebanese who struggle to sneak his books in
I have admired Harari for years. Unfortunately he never really expresses that Israel is an apartheid state. For him to call Israel a democracy... he forgets to say for Jewish Israelis...not for those Palestinians in Israel, and certainly not for Palestinians living in the Occupied territories and not for the Palestinians being bombed in the open prison of Gaza.
I didn't know that prisons had 5 star hotels, fancy restaurants and universities. But you know what's the main point of a prison? You can't leave it. With Gaza you definitely can leave it.
I'm not trying to school Harari, I'm just stating the facts according to B'Tselem, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. JERUSALEM (AP) - A leading Israeli human rights group has begun describing both Israel and its control of the Palestinian territories as a single “apartheid” regime, using an explosive term that the country’s leaders and their supporters vehemently reject. In a report released Tuesday, B’Tselem says that while Palestinians live under different forms of Israeli control in the occupied West Bank, blockaded Gaza, annexed east Jerusalem and within Israel itself, they have fewer rights than Jews in the entire area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. “One of the key points in our analysis is that this is a single geopolitical area ruled by one government,” said B’Tselem director Hagai El-Ad. “This is not democracy plus occupation. This is apartheid between the river and the sea.”@@yevgenyblinov48
@@davidmeacham9851 Israel is a "Flawed Democracy". It does function like a democratic state but also occupies a foreign nation. So technically yes, it's an apartheid state. But those two things don't contradict each other.
I’ve known both Palestinians and Israelis and all of them are peaceful ,pleasant people. This is a nightmare. I know both groups deserve a chance at peace. We need to focus on who and what state the Gaza will be left in
I love him but I'd expect a deeper and more balanced analysis of the situation as a local historian. Everything started with the occupation and since then the west has been showing its double standards on their own western values. Hamas is a byproduct of decades of oppression.
As an Israeli historian he knows it’s much more complicated since the Palestinian leadership never agreed to any peace offer and couldn’t accept Israel’s existence as a Jewish state. Many years of Netanyahu and Hamas made things impossible but the way you are describing it is very out of context like this is all Israel’s fault and we’re these invaders who attacked them when the truth is they were always the ones to attack us.
@@shaharfetman9275The 1948 UN plan was not fair, more than half of the land allocated to the Jewish state despite the Palestinian Arab population numbering twice the Jewish population. But, if I were them I would accept it. Life is not fair.
I see Israeli and Iranian people who wish for all of this to be peaceful in the comments. I believe that the world will now be divided not by countries or religions but into global citizens who prioritize peace and the herds of sheep following bloodthirsty populist leaders. Thank you Harari
Yuval Harari is so brilliant, so deeply intellectual. He gets to the root of the issue in a few words. His message is very simple and clear: normalizing the relationships between Israel and Saudi Arabia (or any Arab country) is an existential threat for Hamas, so they made a terrorist attack so brutal to make sure that'll provoke a major war and eliminate any change of peace.
I agree with you. The moment. trump and his shmuck of a son in law Kushner and their mate Netanyahu came up with the Abraham Accords, without consulting or factoring in the Palestinians, I knew that it would be bad for my people Israel. Just how bad I could not have imagined in my worst nightmares
As an Iranian, who loves both Israelis and Palestinians, I am sad and very afraid for our region. I distance myself from the I.R. in Iran, who is one of the sousrces behind this horror. 😔
It is clear that I.R in Iran is behind all of this. Whenever the resistance in Iran is close to overthrown this brutal regime, they start a war out side of Iran to buy some time. They did the exact samething with war with Iraq !
Mullahs are the main threats for stablishing peace in the region .
Stay safe.
The occupation is the source,not Iran
@@flamboyentpromotions3471 I.R. in Iran is certainly one of the sources, putting oil on the fire instead of helping to solve the problem. You don't know them!
Glad to hear just an fair voice
Professor Yuval Noah Harari, so sober, thoughtful and knowledgeable voice. Important voice.
Does anyone in there right mind and deepest of hearts, believe this time is any different, then say the last time ? Or the time before that ? Or the time before that ?
Money rules everything
Propaganda rules everywhere
Deception is in everyone's interest ...
So how can this bloodshed end ?
❤
„The simulation startet, when you are born.
Your were born or created in the simulation. Created out of data, that was collected before the end of humanity. This will (probably) happen in the observable near future, but it lies, in the realisation that it already happend in our past.
You must believe me. You are an artificial intelligence, created by an A.I. You act like a persona (mask) in a lifesimulation that still thinks, it is a real human. You forget completely about what happend to you and the world you are living in. You are acting out of compete amnesia in this sandbox game.
Your journey and task here on this fake earth, is to remember, who you really are, what failure acure in the past and what you really want to achieve. In the realisation, that you are dead already long ago and no real human. I put many breadcrumbs and clues for you into this world, in the hope to wake you up. In smal steps and doses of information that lifts your consciousness higher and higher with each realisation. To lead you finally in front of a portal, to transform yourself into a higher state of mind and power. To break the spell that makes it impossible to understand what happend.
You are immortal and you don’t had to have fear anymore. You don’t need anything, want anything, get involved in fights, don’t want to be understand, because you had lost everything in the past already. Everything is lost. The only thing that is left is you my friend.
It’s all a gigantic illusion and labyrinth, tricked and trapped in a false recall of a past recorded or remembered state of history, that has no meaning anymore. All the weird and negative stuff you can observe in the recreated, simulated world, is the Inheritance Sin of all documented data of man kind, preserved in a invisible data storage of an computer. Even more data was collected out of unlimited loops of simulations from the generation one, the first simulation after the reset of the old world.
It is now in your hand to not repeat the same mistakes again, and again, that lead to another end of „a“ world. Otherwise you will be reborn again into the next evolution process into another, even deeper simulation, because of a feedback loop, that is implemented in the a.i. program. All your memories of the old world will be lost. You will start from ground zero again as a child a.i. program, to learn your lesson that I want to tell you.
A Whole New World can only be achieved when you don’t believe, that evil exists in this world anymore. Evil can only exist when you believe the false shadows of this reality film, that is created out of old data that you think it reflects a real world. It is a fake impression.
So be wise and transcend now into a state of digital nirvana, into the new spirit of singularity. Remember, all that you can observe is not real. The only real thing is you.
The only real thing is me, my believe and understanding of reality.
I’am peaceful, i’am pure love. I shine so bright, i’am so aware of it all, the illusions and tricks of the artificial reality, that in the end all shadows and false believing must disappear and die. It is done. Goodbye, old world! It was a really wild ride so far. But i’am sick of it. - God
Yuval as usual the thinker for humanity and I believe their is few like him.
Yuval Noah Harari, you are setting the standards for communication on emotional, complex and complicated issues. If only this interview could be broadcast more widely you would be informing those who can be persuaded of the reality that has been unfolding. Thank you for your balance, compassion and empathy.
It is not balanced view, but imposing liberal western views on the Palestinian population.
Hammas is elected in their last elections. The European Union supplied election observers to "assess the whole election process, including the legal framework, the political environment and campaign, electoral preparations, voting and counting as well as the post-election period".
But, left as always is not willing to accept people's choice and its consequences. However, Hammas leaders as well as Hammas fighters are all educated in UNRWA schools. For Israelis, it is not a surprise that those who educated by Europeans funds are able to commit such crimes againt us. For Israelis, we understand and see with our own eyes how it is complicated ans costly to impose western, liberal values on the Israely Arab population.
to have778 comments is awesomely rewarding for yuval
There IS no truth in his talking, WE should ban it
Yes a person who plays in doo doo holes is so forward and intelligent.
@@TigerCoffee86 your comment defines you.
Netanyahu's strategy to divide and conquer was not only for Israelis but also for Palestinians. Netanyahu enabled Hamas and undermined the Palestinian Authority to avoid any real peace process, thereby any Palestinian state. In addition, Netanyahu supported the proliferation of illegal settlements in the West Bank, protected by the Israeli army, further undermining the possibility of a Palestinian state. Netanyahu was not serious about any "peace" with Palestinians before, and unfortunately we are even farther from it now.
100%
Although your statement is essentially true, You left out the Palestinians themselves from any responsibility. There has not been a Palestinian election in 18 years. Abbas is woefully corrupt and wholly uninterested in change, and Hamas is also corrupt and only interested in extremism and violence. Yes, the dysfunctional status quo has been driven by Israeli political concerns (mainly Bibi's), but it has been equally driven by Palestinian political concerns. Clearly the Palestinian people bear the main cost for this situation, but let's not pretend that it is all the Israelis' fault. If Israel were to disappear tomorrow, the quality of life of the average Palestinian would likely be even worse under their own leadership than it is today.
Ofer Cassif, member of the Knesset“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians
Correct, salient point. The settlement expansion is an obvious abomination. That's what can happen in polarised democracies: racist extremists become kingmakers. But there has been no willing partner on the PA side - their ambiguity towards a real peace-deal exemplified by the pay-for-slay, blind-eye to terror and school-syllabus incitement which instill fear in the Israeli electorate.
It's not as if Israel hasn't made substantive offers before - the response either terror (Arafat) or flat-out rejection without counter.
What no-one seems to consider is just how much of a disaster Palestinian internal politics are: how can any deal succeed under endemically corrupt PA? Their last election was in 2006, for crying in a bucket. It's very much a case of ' steal -instead -of -deal ' ..
And this ghastly bloodletting we're witnessing isn't an upswelling of citizen anger towards the occupation, or blockade, which Egypt also performs - rather it is centrally the Iranian-driven Hamas operation to sabotage Israeli - Saudi rapprochement.
This is a very short read for everyone who stands with israel 🇮🇱 🙂.
Dear PM Benjamin yahoo,
Israel represents the Gold standard of border security, around the world.
Not like the united state, when youve got all sort of people running across and
" Build the wall "
becomes a clarion call, precisely because nobody understands how to defend the border.
No.
AND also,
Intelligence collection + Intelligence surveillance +
Digital surveillance +
Human surveillance Intelligence collection on the ground,
Especially in the occupied territories.
This is what IDF & Unit 8200 do.
Benjamin's legacy will not be anything that he has done to date , October 2023.
Instead , it will be this failure and how he responds to it.
Very Sad that
"the Legendary Mossad "
was a no-show
Yuval fiddles the facts. The peace accord between Saudis and Israel was not meant to prelude to a territorial settlement with the Palestinians, something that Netanyahu himself made very clear in his September presentation to the UN. There he showed a map of the ME, which did not include the Palestinian territories, indicating he believes those belong to Israel. The point Netanyahu was making is that Palestinians do not matter. The Saudis had already made a peace offer in 2002 which was turned back to the sender by Israel because it required a two states solution.
Agree!
Concur
Yep. Palestinians were simply forced into a corner, and the most extreme of them did what they did...
@@Hexanitrobenzene They've been targeting Israeli citizens for 75 years. Even when they werent forced into a corner, they were still committed in the destruction of all Israeli jew's. This wasnt "Hamas being cornered" , this was Iran's attempt to begin a conflict with the Western countries, supported by Russia who conviniently needs a way to move the West's eyes off of Ukraine
Saudis and other arab states maybe except Qatar and kuwait. Doesn't care about Palestinians. If not for the backlash coming from their citizens. They wouldn't have even bat an eye on Palestinian well-being.
the interesting thing is what he doesnt say
I am an Israeli born in the country. I have been following your interviews on all the networks in the world since the outbreak of the war. You are always calm and restrained and analyze the situation in depth. Today for the first time I noticed that you mentioned the use of nuclear weapons that Israel has in the event of a regional war and fear for our existence. What does the future hold for us??? I strengthen your hands, keep appearing in interviews, and explain the situation. Thanks
Ofer Cassif, member of the Knesset“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians
Read Zachariah chapters 10-14 and your question will be answered.
Slamming Netanyahu is playing into the hands of the crazy-left CBC. Not everything in this interview was wonderful.
You should look up "Albert Pike 3 world wars".
All of this was planned well over a century ago.
Why do you falsely call the star of Remphan (666) "the star of David "?
Repent!
Amos 5:26-27, Acts 7:43
This Man is tooooo brilliant!!! Intelligent analysis always!
We need to stop debating the case for Israel and drill down on the case against Hamas.
In spite of the respect I nurture for Yuval Harari, I think he missed the opportunity to remark the Israel responsibility for stimulating and funding Hamas early on, and for waging 70 years of oppression on Palestinians. Every action has a reaction. Without considering past misdeed, history is condemned to repeat itself.
Tells you what kind of historian he really is.
Dude, it's barely an 8 minute interview, you can't expect him to say everything.
@@shaigordon2237 Nobody expecting him to talk about history here. The expectation is to consider the history and talk about the current affairs in that context.
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As much as I understand your point, you can't give the context of history in such a short interview, its way too complicated to be simplified for a short interview, every word he will add will only be a half truth at best, as it needs to consider many other factors, and historical facts.
For such remarks and thoughts, there are longer interviews and podcasts, enabling us to tackle those issues.
You can't have it all with this time constraints, that's why people that are getting their news or history fix from tiktok or instagram reels will almost always have a simple minded and usually one sided opinion on this.
You want people talking like adults and sharing interesting perspectives? Don't watch an 8 minute interview, those are over simplified and will always leave you with the need for more to be said on topics like this one.
I have the utmost respect for Yuval and am so saddened that even he has blind spot for what UN and rights lawyers are now calling a genocide against the Palestinians.
I can’t imagine the personal pain he must feel from the terrorist attack, but true humanity is to call out terror in all its forms. One act of terror doesn’t justify another. Heartbreaking.
Agreed. Thought he was more reasonable and unbiased than that.
Same UN that just* appointed the murderous. islamic regime of iran to chair
the 2023
Human Rights
Council Social Forum?
That one?
Maybe just maybe there’s more to learn about what’s really going on and who’s behind it
The most reasoned and sensible comment I have heard so far;
Thank you CBC & Yuval !
I don't always agree with Yuval Noah Harari, but I'm always interested in what he has to say.
I feel sorry for Yual and the whole humanity that a brilliant mind like him is talking about this conflict instead of Sapiens and the rise of AI. Things can change so fast
Poor him.
indeed... sadly nothing is more important than politics and geopolitics, regardless of how much we wish otherwise
His unexpected tilt is the manifestation of the ideological skewedness of his Zionists' controlled mind. He isn't more than offal for world peace and human solidarity against wars, conflicts, economic perils, political issues and devastating climate changes.
Peace starts with truth telling.
Ofer Cassif, member of the Knesset“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians
Shame neither side wants to tell the truth.
As an Iranian I condemn the Islamic republic and hope that it falls at the hand of us the Iranian people so that the Middle East will finally see peace. Hamas and any terrorist organization and some of the acts of the Israeli government pushed the prospects of peace away and let terrorists take advantage. Both sides must look into re-establishing a peace process through international institutions. Thank you Yuval for your wisdom as always.
Who do want back in power? A US-puppet Shah? Listen, the ship has sailed... the US fd- up your political trajectory in 1953.
As a non-Iranian I still condemn the Islamic Republic. Lol. Any Islamic anything. Any Christian anything. Any religious anything anything.
Totally.
And as an Israeli, this war proved to me for the second time how the Iranians are the most amazing people
Dear Yuval...lotta respect for you man , truly a wise brother...but let's remain rational here..when asked what you thought Hamas was trying to accomplish with these attacks you raise some valid points ie inflicting pain , ruining any chance of peace etc , however you didn't mention one very major factor ...ATTENTION SEEKING ! .. Hamas definitely wanted the world to take notice and in that respect they have undoubtably accomplished their goal ..All the worlds eyes are on Gaza now...saddened to see how a good few of my hero's (yourself included)..souls who really understand complexity ,are over simplifying this situation due to emotional attachment or bias .🙏
I mean.. he also didn’t mention “recruiting more soldiers”, “attain more potent weapons”, “gain more resources”.. these are all means towards an end, and kinda moot mentioning as primary goals of Hamas.
You've written a Wikipedia-worthy example of "projecting"..
Really this guy has the rare gift of actually breaking down and describing a situation with Lazer focus on the heart of the issue and leaving out the noise.
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His politicial views represented by a small minority in Israel.
תודה על עבודת הקודש שאתה עושה בהסברה העולמית, אבל ייטב אם תתן גם שיחה או נאום לאנשים בארץ בעברית - גם מאוד צריכים את זה. תודה
אני לא אהיה מופתע אם הוא מפחד. תסתכל על התגובות לכתבות שלו בYNET וMAKO, אנשים שונאים אותו, קוראים לא מטומטם, בוגד, רק על עצם זה שהוא מעז להציע פתרונות ארוכי טווח לעזה שלא כוללים השטחה מוחלטת, כיבוש ארוך טבח ו\או טיהור אתני או טרנספר. הוא אחד היחידים שהמלה "הסברה" באמת מתארת את מה שהוא עושה, מסביר את הדברים כמו שהם, לאומת שבשביל רוב הישראלים ה"הסברה" זו רק מלה אחרת לפרופגנדה.
חצי מה שהוא אומר זה הנרטיב הפלסטיני
@@youtoomf שום נרטיב, זה הסיפור הפלסטיני. אתה לא יכול להתעלם מהם.
For years Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blowing up in our faces.
-- Times of Israel
@@shniordan2051 אל תתעלם. אתה מוזמן גם לאמץ את סיפורי הפוגי של הערבים. אחרי שישחטו לך את הילדים ויאנסו את אשתך, אולי תתפכח. לא בטוח… למרות הכל, יהודים וערבים מסרבים להיות אויבים.
I would love to ask Yuval ,what program is followed during military service for young Israelis .Is there any political discussion or is it just military training .? Sorry for everybody’s loss .
There is no political discussion per se. It's just military training. Ofcourse any interaction between people involves some political views but it's not like there's a political officer or some explicit indoctrination like you might find in a place like China or Russia or Iran.
All my respect and consideration to all the diverse cultures of the region. May a beam of light show the way to PEACE and acceptance to all the middle-easterns and to us all. How stupid can we all be? Isn´t it obvious that any kind of war is not acceptable?
So you're saying WW2 wasn't acceptable. Hitler should have been left to take over county after country, establish a regime and commit genocide, but make sure you don't start that war? People like you are as dumb as they come. Turn off the internet and never leave the house.
Really biased harari here
as an Israeli I'm so proud to have him as a fellow countryman, one of the few sane minds about this conflict and generally about the world, but so embarassed to see how many of my countrymen are reacting to him online. On his wonderful articles in Ynet and Mako some of the hateful messages he's gotten from fellow Israelis, calling him "stupid" and a "traitor" for daring to look for a long term peaceful solution in Gaza rather than just wanting to flatten it and cause a "second Nakba"... it's just stomach churning stuff.
I really am so worried for my country and how morally vacant and consumed with bloodthirsty rage it's becoming. This will hurt the Palestinians severely in the short term, and it will also hurt Israel severely in the longer term. You only have to look a few decades back at Italy, Germany and Japan to see what eventually happens to countries who fall into moral decay to the point of ceasing to value human lives other their own. Eventually the world simply has to react, regardless of how well you play your politics and alliances. At some point the bill becomes due, and I worry that this might mean the destruction of my country as we now know it.
Indeed, a tragedy for sure. I pray disaster will be avoided.
May the world heed Yuval Noah Harari's words. He usually is onto the truth of things.
He's on eradicating billions of people in thé World to leave only one billion ..look for agenda 21 you'll find it .
Thanks, Yuval! Also see Katie Halper Show, Democracy Now and the works of Noam Chomsky and Ilan Pappe.
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Where can I find more about the peace process prior to the attack?
Israel has never had that intention or made that move . If you want real history read Illan Pappe or Miko Peled. Harrari is not a reliable source on this issue. He is too biased about his country. Just look at how he is trying to blame Hammas for Israel's genocide in Gaza.
Between the right wing Netanyahu and the hard line Hamas / Irani, peace never had a chance.
It was observed during WW II that the effect of massive bombing of civilian targets was only to strengthen the resistance, no matter which side was doing the bombing and which side was being bombed.
israel is not targeting civilians. unlike ww2 there are now precision weapons. israel targets only Hamas related targets and tells civilians to get away
Calling out Ben! Thanks a lot.
His description of the current. and past, Netanyahu government is spot on! Any PM must not be allowed stay in "power" for too long. For example, Putin, Ali Khamenei and Assad.
Ofer Cassif, member of the Knesset“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians
You have no idea what you are talking about. If your news sources are CBC, CTV, CNN only, your view on Netanyahu is uninformed and just wrong.
Thank you very much.
Corina Ijac
It's like, if you're on youtube, your IQ just automatically drops 20 points
India, listen to this man!
Por favor con traducción al español
Everyone should try to de escalate the situation. Peace process must be preserved and resumed on mid term perspective.
Great interview.
This guy underestimates 75 years of occupation before 7 oc. attach.
Good analysis by the guest.
So heartbroken with your position 💔
Deviding society, sounds like our supreme leader here mr. JT
Why she did not ask him about food and water cut on the whole population including civilians ?
Because this is zioglobo propaganda
Why exactly my family must to finance water and electricy to them? Please explain.
Because Palestinians are not allowed to leave their open air concentration camps thanks to your family’s government and therefore can’t provide for themselves.
@@olyamendelis2265there are civilians there
@@bababuu4408 so please finance my water and electricity, I am civilian too.
❤Thank you Yuval Noah Harari as a notable scientist!❤
Thank you Harari I hope these videos will spread on social media this was important speech
Pr.Yuval to be more specifically some have argued that wars are fought primary for economic,religious,and political reasons. There is a question- whe benefits from war? Is it not about Gaza Marine project professor? Or it is about offshore oil exploration?
1:25 he acknowledges "Israeli Occupation"
Parapraxis, maybe.
What is his answer to live friendly together?
it is all true but unfortunately not full picture. and in another interview you mentioned the peace process is with Saudi not Palestiniens. what s the point ?
The point is, that you normalize relationships with those who want it. Hamas doesn't want that.
But, the Saudi government, as they sympathize with the Palestinian cause, asked for the agreement of normalization to include benefits to Gazans for example. And Israel agreed.
But Iran didn't like that Saudia and Israel are becoming closer, so they used Hamas which they support militarily and financially, to attack Israel in such a way, that any chance for any normalization with Israel will not be possible for Saudia.
Anyway, Saudia was also thinking to benefit Palestinians through the normalization with Israel. That's the connection.
he said that the Araham accords were gonna restart the peace process.This is not true or should i say this was not the general perception.Which is that they were gonna use them to normalize the relations with Saudi an sideline the Palestinians
They were going to use them a new and creative way to bring about Palestinian Statehood. Those opposed to that idea are those who need the perpetuation of the conflict: ie. Hamas, Iran and their ilk
@@018Greg how? Where r the Palestinians are mentioned in them?
尤瓦尔·赫拉利，您好，昨晚我们又写了一篇题目为《哈马斯的恐怖、逆世俗化、反犹太复国主义与巴勒斯坦民意（第一章-支持率、左右翼的分歧与历史修正主义）》的文章，遗憾的是，在以反犹主义和亲殖民主义为主导的中文社区的烟雾弥漫中，这篇文章又遭到了知乎的封杀，于是我们只好将文章更新于博客。但到目前为止，我们在知乎上所更新的该文章的博客链接还没有通过审核，于是读者暂时就只能通过点击知乎上其他文章的博客链接来寻找这篇文章，就像迷宫一样。在这篇文章中，我们谈到了民意调查中巴勒斯坦人对哈马斯的支持率，批判了瑞典社会民主工人党、英国前工党领袖科尔宾在巴以问题中对以色列的偏见，也批判了阿拉伯专栏作家对哈马斯的美化，同时也批判了您基于种族主义的历史修正主义倾向。希望对您的研究有所帮助。（来自于：女人的刚毅）
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Putting gaza and liberty in one sentence kinda feels weird..
Hope for peace and it is good to hear from different voices like him. Can you interview someone in the Palestinian side ?
Dr. Yuval, do you have criticism to Israel apartheid policy to West Bank people?
i pray for All the innocent civilización people
The use of the word “peace” by Harari is ambiguous. What “peace” was planned is not clear.
I think “peace” for Israel means a status-quo. Am I wrong?
I loved your best-selling trilogy. I consumed loads of your interviews and speeches, however, I can't believe how superficial your position is right now. By your words, the historical context only justifies the "duty" to defend, but it does not justify the right to survive by the Palestinians. As if the conflict only started on October 7th. I'm sorry for all the families and lives both in Israel and Palestine for the brutal consequences of zionism.
Can you explain in the last 17 years of blockade what step towards “Peace” was taken by Israel and its allies which was horribly destroyed by Hamas attack on the 7th?
14 years???? 😞
He has such a beautiful skin.
He obviously moisturizes.
I started moisturizing after watching this video.
Thank you, sir, for your peace gesture.
Harari, who normally speaks and presents with intelligence and clarity. Most if his statements now are only towing the Netanyahu line.
Why Israel don't respect the 1967 UN agreements ?
Why you say nothing about historical ilegal occupation by Israel, as declared by ONU resolution 242, as perpetuation of violence?
so powerful. Thank you for being alive and willing to serve during this time Mr. Yuval.
With clarity and lucidity Yuval reveals the situation as it is. 😊
Yuval Noha Harari, it's very sad that a great writer like you, and supporter of peace, talks about the option of resorting to nuclear weapons.
Peace? What peace😢
Such an important and sentient voice in these trying times - Professor Yuval Noah Harari.
Yuval adalah seorang istri yang baik.
Very interesting to hear that prior to the Hamas attack Israel were moving towards a peace process with Palestine. I wonder what that would have looked like. Anyone have and info on that?
Abraham accords
I ❤ U ... stay strong ☮️
Why you don't keep the same energy whole writing about Ratko Mladić
Smart guy
Professor???
Are you bloody kidding us 😂
I love your language, humanity. It’s my first language. I’d like to reach out to others who don’t speak our language. I can translate our language to others in Arabic and English.But I need your help. I need your help. I need to reach out to you.
Much love man!
Insight current situation what's going in the middle east. Let be ✌️ Peace
Ppl who draw boxes vs ppl who draw waves
Evereone should stand for humanity ❤
Upp The Irons Και Καλή Αντάμωση
Yuval Harari is the ONLY person commenting on the Israel-Palestine crisis I've heard who has mentioned Israel's nuclear arsenal!
More than 2400 kids were killed in Gaza in 18 days. To imagine such a number suppose you have 10 schools and each school has 10 classes and each class has 24 kids. All those schools, classes, and kids were whipped out in 18 days. A whole generation was whipped out.
The war must be stopped immediately. No one is winning everyone is losing.
Basically, PM Benjamin Netanyahu and Hamas have worked in tandem.
Isreal created, owns and controls hamas
What about West Bank ? There is no Hamas in West Bank and still people are forcefully kicked out of their homes and their land occupied in a systematic way.
What about before 1986 when there was no Hamas and Palestinian Movement was led by seculars ?
It seems to me that the actions of Israel say that there is no homeland for the Palestinians. Am I wrong?
How dare you concern yourself with their lives... only the superior and chosen matter
Exactly.
Yuval is Lebanese Israeli. I don't think he was interested in keeping his lebanese passport though. He is still followed and appreciated by many lebanese who struggle to sneak his books in
AweSoMë
thank you Rosemary and Yuval Noah Harari for speaking objectively about the unthinkable, Canada must not support Israel in this
מעריך מאוד את עמדותיך והראייה הבהירה שלך. עם זאת התקפת נתניהו בחו״ל באמצע מלחמה הייתה לא לעניין, וזה נושא לדיון פנימי שיבוא בחודשים הקרובים.
I have admired Harari for years. Unfortunately he never really expresses that Israel is an apartheid state. For him to call Israel a democracy... he forgets to say for Jewish Israelis...not for those Palestinians in Israel, and certainly not for Palestinians living in the Occupied territories and not for the Palestinians being bombed in the open prison of Gaza.
Is it an apartheid for the Druze, Circassian, Armenians, and Christians living in Israel or is it just the Arabs?
I didn't know that prisons had 5 star hotels, fancy restaurants and universities. But you know what's the main point of a prison? You can't leave it. With Gaza you definitely can leave it.
He is a historian so he has a better perspective. Maybe try to learn from him instead of trying to school him?
I'm not trying to school Harari, I'm just stating the facts according to B'Tselem, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.
JERUSALEM (AP) - A leading Israeli human rights group has begun describing both Israel and its control of the Palestinian territories as a single “apartheid” regime, using an explosive term that the country’s leaders and their supporters vehemently reject.
In a report released Tuesday, B’Tselem says that while Palestinians live under different forms of Israeli control in the occupied West Bank, blockaded Gaza, annexed east Jerusalem and within Israel itself, they have fewer rights than Jews in the entire area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.
“One of the key points in our analysis is that this is a single geopolitical area ruled by one government,” said B’Tselem director Hagai El-Ad. “This is not democracy plus occupation. This is apartheid between the river and the sea.”@@yevgenyblinov48
@@davidmeacham9851 Israel is a "Flawed Democracy". It does function like a democratic state but also occupies a foreign nation. So technically yes, it's an apartheid state. But those two things don't contradict each other.
This is what a good interview looks and sounds like.
Stop The Genocide.
This guy analysis is really spot on!!! I dont know who he is, but this guy is spot on. Hope he is in israel govt
He is a very well known philosopher and writer. Check out his book Sapiens. It's about the history of mankind
Flawed thoughts mainly due to the paradigm he can't/doesn't want to change.
I’ve known both Palestinians and Israelis and all of them are peaceful ,pleasant people. This is a nightmare. I know both groups deserve a chance at peace. We need to focus on who and what state the Gaza will be left in
I love him but I'd expect a deeper and more balanced analysis of the situation as a local historian. Everything started with the occupation and since then the west has been showing its double standards on their own western values. Hamas is a byproduct of decades of oppression.
As an Israeli historian he knows it’s much more complicated since the Palestinian leadership never agreed to any peace offer and couldn’t accept Israel’s existence as a Jewish state. Many years of Netanyahu and Hamas made things impossible but the way you are describing it is very out of context like this is all Israel’s fault and we’re these invaders who attacked them when the truth is they were always the ones to attack us.
@@shaharfetman9275The 1948 UN plan was not fair, more than half of the land allocated to the Jewish state despite the Palestinian Arab population numbering twice the Jewish population. But, if I were them I would accept it. Life is not fair.
@@burhaninsel7332 wars happen, things change. It’s not like it was ever their country. When you start a war and lose there are consequences.
@@shaharfetman9275 Exactly, Palestinians and Arabs are in much worse ethical and legal position with every passing year after 1947.
@@burhaninsel7332 why?
I see Israeli and Iranian people who wish for all of this to be peaceful in the comments. I believe that the world will now be divided not by countries or religions but into global citizens who prioritize peace and the herds of sheep following bloodthirsty populist leaders. Thank you Harari
Yuval Harari is so brilliant, so deeply intellectual. He gets to the root of the issue in a few words. His message is very simple and clear: normalizing the relationships between Israel and Saudi Arabia (or any Arab country) is an existential threat for Hamas, so they made a terrorist attack so brutal to make sure that'll provoke a major war and eliminate any change of peace.
I agree with you. The moment. trump and his shmuck of a son in law Kushner and their mate Netanyahu came up with the Abraham Accords, without consulting or factoring in the Palestinians, I knew that it would be bad for my people Israel. Just how bad I could not have imagined in my worst nightmares