A "favor" is an act of goodwill or a kind act, i.e. holding the door open for someone, driving them to the airport. This is a major inconvenience and goes way beyond that.
There are bigger classes of favours. This one belong in the same category as "I need a new roof at home, can you do it for me?". Those are usually only extanged between family, business partners, and criminals.
I would not initially demand additional compensation, but I would tell her straight up that my existing duties would be put on hold, and that she'd need too find someone else to do them if she wants them completed by the deadline AND to have this new task performed. If she asked that I stay after normal hours to get both tasks done, then I'd demand time and a half.
Exactly what I thought. If I could train and get my shit done in working hours then no problem for me at all. Hey I made a new friend and also we have all been there. But I'd tell her that she has to be okay if my work is not done on time. If she suugests that I work over time then perfect oppertunity to ask for OVER TIME PAY.
Yep it's better to play this in reverse, if there is no time/project code for this training in your timesheet, i.e. If the training takes 20hrs/week, then spend the first 20hrs of your week on the dedicated training, then rest of the week for regular duties. When you have worked your total hours for the week (e.g. 35hrs or 40hrs depending on what counts as 'full-time' in your country), then either: 1) go home (even if work unfinished), or 2) work on overtime pay
True story, i asked for a raise the last time i was asked to train someone. When they tried telling me that its standard and part of my job.... i pulled out the companies job descriptions.... "No, not on here... you know, I did find what job description is responsible for training though. Wanna take a guess?" "There's no need to be rude, thats ok I'll find someone else." "It's rude to put your work on someone else, it's not rude to demand better of your superiors in the workplace."
I don't know where you live but at every job I've ever been at or heard of in the US there's a tiny little statement at the end of every job description that ruins everybody's life: "Other duties as assigned". And that part makes the rest of the job description a floor. Your job is whatever they say it is PLUS whatever is in your job description.
@@MrThatGuyYouForgotAnd, this is why so many workers are, "quiet quitting" by doing the minimum or by doing some of these "other duties as assigned" poorly on purpose. When companies use, "other duties as assigned" as the job description, but do not reward good performing workers with raises, perks, benefits or other fair compensation, while piling more and more work on the workers, and giving huge salary increases & bonuses to the CEOs instead, then they should expect that those "other duties as assigned" to not get done. VOTE for worker's rights. VOTE for the working class. VOTE HARRIS/WALZ STOP PROJECT 2025! VOTE BLUE!🌊 VOTE BLUE!
Exactly! Supervisors and managers are supposed to be training workers who are coming into the company who will be reporting to them. If you cannot train a new employee to do a job then how can you supervise them to do said job?
I have trained almost 6 people at my job. Our “team lead” got paid extra to train 4 of them, and now our “team float” is getting paid extra to train the other two… but who is always asking ME how to do things? That’s right, the float. The team lead never did, but guess who had to retrain people because the lead literally told them WRONG? That’s right. Someone else who did something similar with 2 people pointed out the hypocrisy and was given “points” in our company’s reward program that equalled about $3 for training 2 people over the course of 2-3 months. What’s even worse, I found out that the team lead got paid to train me when I started… even though I didn’t even meet her until I’d been working there for almost a year and done the work of 3 people completely solo for 3 months of that year starting 8 weeks after starting the job. 🙄 Yet they can’t figure out why very few people stay for very long.
As soon as you allow yourself to be the simp, the simp you will be. If you speak up for yourself, you will either get fired (which is a juicy unlawful termination lawsuit if you're smart and have a paper trail) or you will get respect.
I got fired and was never allowed to have a paper trail. Everything was never put in writing (email, teams message, etc) or I was told for confidentiality reasons, I was not allowed to see it. “As soon as you allow yourself to be the simp…” is a gross over simplification of life. Stop blaming people for being treated badly, and maybe go after the people treating people badly; although, from the looks of it, that would require you to change some of your own behaviours. I already have a solid wrongful termination claim as all of this was tied to my disclosure of a disability and HR didn’t know they were supposed to tell me a few things. Too bad, as an unemployed person, I can’t afford a lawyer. I can’t even afford my meds right now.
So much and those “favors” become a part of your job and when you say no, they’ll say you aren’t doing your job and you’ll be in the red for probation or firing.
I stand by this. I “trained” people for half a year. I’m not a manager. No increase pay. It affected me so badly explaining what “we” as a company do, over and over, I literally couldn’t even refer to myself individually. Literally started using the plural we for self and it confused everyone and frustrated me immensely. So yeah, speaking from a psychological experience, it does have an impact and you should be paid for it.
I had a manager call me on my day off at 7am (I worked 7pm til 3am) about a truly trifling matter. I told her 1) there was precedent for what I had done 2) it was my day off and the middle of the night for me and 3) would she just feck off please, and I hung up. She called me back about 5 minutes later and said that I wasn't blank Hotel material and I was fired. Totally worth it lol.
@TheParadiseParadox that's pretty bull. If you fit a niche critical role that's hard to replace then yes this holds true? Otherwise? You're only as valuable as the next cheapest person they can find to do your job. Being great gets you nowhere these days.
@@TheParadiseParadox been working for about 25+ years at this point in my life, lots of data points from others say the same. Unless you're in a niche, hard to replace critical position and moderately good at your job, you're 100% replaceable with cheaper labor should they ever want to do so. My father is a controller (1 step away from a CFO or chief financial officer which is a position comparable to a CEO just in the accounting side.) Damn good at what he does to, he gets passed over and replaced all the time. Auditors commend his work and he's stopped a few companies from going bankrupt. Doesn't save him though if they find someone who's willing to do more for less pay.
People used to not mind doing "favors" for their company but since they have taken pretty much everything good out of employment no one wants to do "favors" anymore but the company still thinks the employee enjoys working for them and can't understand why not.. Good to see really.
My last employer needed someone to write a new program for a specific thing in our call center. One of our customer service leads was a programmer and took on the assignment, It took a month, he got it done, then he was hosed by management for not meeting his monthly assigned goals for his position. Just goes to show the truth of that old adage, "No good deed goes unpunished."
In reality you wouldn't need to become sarcastic. Just discuss that there are two options: you go into overtime and they compensate you for that or they take work off your plate. You can't take on additional tasks while also being expected to reach the same targets. If their choice is neither, then your answer is no.
When you're being disrespected, you have no obligation to be respectful. A bully cannot cry "rude" when they're the instigator of rudeness. Learn your worth or be a doormat. These shitty jobs are everywhere.
@@ImNotaRussianBot You do have an obligation to yourself to not lower yourself to the same level as a "bully" and to remain professional in your communication. There is no need to become sarcastic in communicating your terms and boundaries in a concise and clear manner, other than not being in control of your emotions and feeling the need to exact revenge instead of simple communication. People who think they should lower their own communication style to that level think they have some higher ground, but they are mostly only revealing they are actually no better than the employer they claim is acting unprofessional. Choose to act in the same manner, but then you have no more claim on the high road anymore.
I worked for Beutler Heating and Air years ago and Rick Wiley the president and micromanaging master decided that your job was base level and he'd pile up random work like he'd say "cold call 30 people and get 10 customers". If it didn't happen or your actual job didn't get done yin had to explain in a huge meeting how you got caught in the "whirlwind" and failed at your tasks. Then everyone gets to chime in and tell you how to get 3x's the work done in the same amount of time... I walked out in a meeting where they told me I'd have to be project manager and a sales person while still being paid as a technician. I was super happy to quit that job.
Yeah, I tried that once. They pulled out my job description and pointed out the “other tasks as determined by manager” line, and a few months later they found a reason to fire me because I wasn’t a “team player”
Yeah, never sign a contract that has a line like that or "all connext tasks" or the like. Whenever I see that on a contract, I walk out without even the courtesy of a "thanks but this wont work out"
It's okay. You're better off leaving a company that can't even be bothered to write up specific job descriptions or hire the necessary people to fulfill them.
I always find that clause interesting. Won't the new employee have a supervisor when they arrive, why isn't the supervisor mandated to train said new person? That should be a critical part of the supervisor's job description, no?
I berate recruiters like this, no holds barred. Literally had to tell one recruiter "You called me in the middle of my workday to offer me less money than I currently make, at a worse place of employment further away. I should bill you for the time you wasted."
It's not really about being "brilliant", it's about not needing the job/not being afraid to lose the job. Most companies wouldn't fire you, but make you miserable to make you quit if you don't align to their "needs".
Where I'm from,that would be considered a 'constructive dismissal' (meaning the company engineered bad conditions for the employee in an effort to make them uncomfortable and even quit) and the company can be sued.
If your boss is insecure, yes. If they aren’t stuck in their own ego, they won’t be so hurt. It’s really not that deep. Some people are honestly TOO sensitive to ANY subordinate feedback.
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Why would you be expected to train a new employee that you will not be supervising? Isn't it the job of the supervisor or manager to train new employees since these new employees will be reporting to them and as such they should already be capable of doing the work that will be assigned to the new employee?
I would never take on additional work or be expected to train people without the proper compensation. These are the many things managers try to pull out of their bag of tricks to try to make you feel as if you're not a "team player" (I've always HATED that phrase). I'm a team player when I'm doing the job I was hired to do to the best of my ability and supporting my co-workers. THAT'S IT. If a manager wants more, then they either PAY or I WALK. It's really that simple.
No, she IS a brilliant employee. The manager/company always come to her to train others. That means she does her job well; has experience; is a good trainer; is willing to be a "team player" simply by considering being a trainer; and, meets company goals whether she is training someone or not. That IS a brilliant employee, who should be valued by the company, and should be compensated as such. And, there's a difference between your claim that "she's speaking for herself"; and what she is actually doing, which is "SPEAKING UP for herself". Companies & managers need to get over themselves & this idea that you being employed by them is a favor you are doing for the worker. It is not. The company needs a job to be done, and the employees they hire are providing the work & skills of that job for fair compensation. It is an exchange of value=fair wages & benefits for work done, not favors. If your customers or clients don't pay you in favors, then you shouldn't expect workers to do the same. VOTE for worker's rights! VOTE HARRIS/WALZ STOP PROJECT 2025! VOTE BLUE! 🌊VOTE BLUE!
Managers that say "go ahead and do this" like it was your idea and you now have permission are usually afraid to be assertive and often don't own their mistakes.
Training a new employee is a manager's duty, not a staff duty. Having the bills ready on hand is pure gold BTW, I must remember this stunt the next time shit go down the pipe.
It's very often staff duty. But the whole point is it should be recognised that less work will be achieved while training. That's why in software there's so much stress on TEAM performance over periods of time you can average, and not individual performance (if you have a good manager). Saying a job will take 1 day is worthless if it takes the new hire 3 days while learning, or 2 days with a senior member losing half a day to helping etc.
@@plukerpluck You sound like one of the incompetent supervisors or managers. There's no way on God's green earth that TRAINING new employees should be staff duty. New employees do not report to "staff" nor are they supervised or evaluated by "staff". Supervisors and managers MUST be able to do the work of new employees whom they will be supervising and evaluating and so they MUST train them; NOT line staff members! Don't be ridiculous!
@@tripleb1960 On the job training from senior staff is the situation in most non-minimum wage jobs... It's true of apprentices in trade jobs, it's true of many office jobs, it's true in technical IT roles. Basically training, sure, that's company (and this supervisor level). Passing on knowledge is a team thing in most jobs, and if you don't think that then it sounds like you've only ever worked retail.
@@plukerpluck Gaslighting could never work with me. "Training" and "passing on knowledge" are not the same and certainly the latter would not take on 6 weeks as is stated in this video. The manager CLEARLY says to TRAIN the new employee. So get tf out of here you useless manager/supervisor or aspirant thereof.
I was ready to go off on two of my managers this week due to similar situations. I don't mind helping snd even training but when doing that stops me from doing what i need to do and you the manager, who is expected to assist us when needed at this job, keep running off and not letting ke go on ky break in a reasonable time? Yeah you're gonna hear it from me. Doing double roles is your job manager. Don't play with me
They want you working like a busy bee so you don't waste time with things like nature breaks (which everyone needs), or having lunch. If we were machines they'd still complain because we needed an oil change once in a while. These people need boundaries
I have the same energy when I tell people: "Sure, I can do that for you. Which of the six critical projects I'm currently working on do you want me to drop?"
I think the title needs to be updated to 'Brilliant employees are a scummy manager's worst nightmare' because there's no other word that as well describes what this manager is being here.
Finally a series that puts everything I have ever thought and mostly everything I have said right out there for everyone. Great job and even better tactics to handle situation in a finality. Meaning that you only have to have each conversation once. Ms. Veronica does not work for free and you have to give to get when it is after 5. I hear her! ❤
The problem here is the time. In the US can a company really say "train this person AND do all your previous tasks"? It just wouldn't happen in the UK, and our employment laws are really weak.
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Yes. Watch this and learn from this. Then apply it in your lives and see yourself stay mediocre. Whereas I know CEOs and VPs mentoring kids who don't even work in their Organisations for free. I see them doing a lot of favours, in fact. And it always works out for them.
This is one way employers are guilty of WAGE THEFT! Most people aren’t”Veronica,” because they’re concerned they would lose their jobs, or not be considered for promotion. And employers take advantage of that fear, which is why working class people need UNIONS!
Correction: Brilliant employees are a BAD managers worst nightmare. There are a lot of bad managers out there, but I’m getting tired of us good managers getting lumped in with them all the time.
I've done a lot of stuff for free including training, bring it up at my performance appraisals, write it in my CV, get better offers elsewhere, and get pay raises. I've gone from earning monthly 11k in 2019 to 30k today, switching jobs twice.
I doubt it. Based on another video, Veronika probably has enough recordings of the manager going against company policies and later pretending it was someone else's (specifically blaming Veronika in that one) fault to cost the manager her job.
What if you see training as an opportunity to actually help someone else’s career and get them to grow? This is wisdom and an ethical approach to look at such things. I am a trainee and it’s always appreciated when someone takes the time to help and share their knowledge, and the moral aspect of this is way more important than a compensation. Because you get to grow and help others grow and open endless opportunities to learn and build relationships with trainees who will respect and appreciate you for the rest of their life. This is especially true if it doesn’t affect you reaching your goal targets and you could actually enjoy the experience
Here at my job, it's "do as you're told or you're fired." We haven't had a raise in 3 years. The workload is balanced poorly, but we're all paid the same...
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Why even ask her? You know what she's going to say 😂 In the real world, she wouldn't be asked and be working alone with no interactions with other staff because they are plotting how to get rid of her
Fine. People like her often "fail" upwards anyways. Who tf needs work "friends" who treat you like that? She has consistently been shown to get her work done efficiently and quickly. Someone else will take her on no sweat. 💅
Lol they’ve gotten ingenious about training now. They’ll tell a new person to shadow someone. Basically stand and sit around someone with the position, watch what they do and follow suit. That way the “trainer” isn’t technically teaching or having to handle their job while taking on new duties in helping rewatch and the new employee is being trained on the job.
Like an idiot, I've fallen for this scam multiple times at multiple places. What's weird is that the first time, I knew it was wrong but I guess I really just wanted to be helpful or something. Then I started thinking it was normal. Never again.
No, no, no. Extra work CAN work on a basis of favors. But...favors work in BOTH directions! It's literally a favor. As in, she does the manager this favor, and the manager OWES a compensated favor. Does the employee later make a serious error for which her employment could be terminated? Oh, look. Time to call in that favor. Yes. Seriously.
These clips remind me of the differences which used to be clearly stated when I was first employed as a lecturer. A lecturer was a ‘professional’ - their work was evaluated in terms of outcomes achieved, however they were achieved and whatever time they took. Professionals were paid more because they had to be innovative in achieving timely quality outcomes and training new or more junior colleagues was an obvious part of their responsibility. ‘Employees’ were people without the capacity or training to do this. Their output was measured in terms of hours worked, items on a list of duties completed etc. Creators/ vs operators. Management and employee in this series are talking from opposite sides of this divide.
Forgot to say - the University quite blatantly tried to exploit this difference when they wanted to reduce spending, by suggesting they could get rid of many of the ‘by the hour’ type staff and simply have the academics pick up their work as well, since academic contracts did not put any upper limit (or even mention) the amount of time that needed to be spent on the job
When I was serving my six-month sentence at Starbucks, Deb the food service manager said I'd be training the new person coming in. I said, "How much is the pay for training?" She chuckled like I was joking and said, "Well there's not, it's really easy to train another person." I said, "I'm not taking on another responsibility without the pay commensurate thereto." She had no response and walked away. I think that was why she didn't do ANYTHING for me when I left, much less the chocolate cake and PA announcement she had done for my (asshole male) coworker.
I feel like when the economy turns down they always let go of the people who push back too much or not at all and there is this third group who pushes back just enough to remain effective and valuable to the company (and there is a limit on how many employees can reside on this area) and I have always found it hard to stay in this middle ground The reason I say this is because I get the feeling that Veronica would fall into the group that is considered to push back too much… wts I think that if you can rack up enough savings then may be it’s okay to stay unemployed when the economy hits a rough patch … I don’t why I’m saying all this , guess these videos tend to trigger me…
No problem: I have five other tasks on the table. Kindly prioritise them for me, well you? Because some of them well be late by adding that sixth task. Oh, and once you did, please tell the one who gave me the task(s) that now fall down the table that you deamed them less important than the training of the new gal. Because only if they approve, I will start the training.
Its like being a photographer and being asked to do a session for free because it will be 'great exposure'. Oh really how does exposure pay my bills (including the lens I may have to buy for this amazing exposure).
Every time I hear “Hey Veronica you have a minute?” I know it’s about to go down!
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😂😂 Same!
And it is.😂😂😂 Veronika dont play with these folks
I be like I better take notes because this is too relatable!!! 😂
Obviously Veronica should be the Mgr.
"Hey, Veronica do you have a minute?" turned into "Hey, Veronica, do you have six weeks?" real fast.
I was kind of hoping you could do it in a week.
my life doesnt runs on favors....it runs on income.
A "favor" is an act of goodwill or a kind act, i.e. holding the door open for someone, driving them to the airport. This is a major inconvenience and goes way beyond that.
There are bigger classes of favours. This one belong in the same category as "I need a new roof at home, can you do it for me?". Those are usually only extanged between family, business partners, and criminals.
very true.
I would not initially demand additional compensation, but I would tell her straight up that my existing duties would be put on hold, and that she'd need too find someone else to do them if she wants them completed by the deadline AND to have this new task performed. If she asked that I stay after normal hours to get both tasks done, then I'd demand time and a half.
Exactly what I thought. If I could train and get my shit done in working hours then no problem for me at all. Hey I made a new friend and also we have all been there. But I'd tell her that she has to be okay if my work is not done on time. If she suugests that I work over time then perfect oppertunity to ask for OVER TIME PAY.
Yep it's better to play this in reverse, if there is no time/project code for this training in your timesheet, i.e.
If the training takes 20hrs/week, then spend the first 20hrs of your week on the dedicated training, then rest of the week for regular duties.
When you have worked your total hours for the week (e.g. 35hrs or 40hrs depending on what counts as 'full-time' in your country), then either:
1) go home (even if work unfinished), or
2) work on overtime pay
It's to find, not too.
@@barbarat5729 Ah, typos.
Heck of a negotiation. Well played
True story, i asked for a raise the last time i was asked to train someone.
When they tried telling me that its standard and part of my job.... i pulled out the companies job descriptions....
"No, not on here... you know, I did find what job description is responsible for training though. Wanna take a guess?"
"There's no need to be rude, thats ok I'll find someone else."
"It's rude to put your work on someone else, it's not rude to demand better of your superiors in the workplace."
I don't know where you live but at every job I've ever been at or heard of in the US there's a tiny little statement at the end of every job description that ruins everybody's life: "Other duties as assigned". And that part makes the rest of the job description a floor. Your job is whatever they say it is PLUS whatever is in your job description.
@@MrThatGuyYouForgotAnd, this is why so many workers are, "quiet quitting" by doing the minimum or by doing some of these "other duties as assigned" poorly on purpose.
When companies use, "other duties as assigned" as the job description, but do not reward good performing workers with raises, perks, benefits or other fair compensation, while piling more and more work on the workers, and giving huge salary increases & bonuses to the CEOs instead, then they should expect that those "other duties as assigned" to not get done.
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Exactly! Supervisors and managers are supposed to be training workers who are coming into the company who will be reporting to them.
If you cannot train a new employee to do a job then how can you supervise them to do said job?
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And then you find out that the worker that you've just trained either is your replacement or in two months becomes your new Supervisor.
I have trained almost 6 people at my job. Our “team lead” got paid extra to train 4 of them, and now our “team float” is getting paid extra to train the other two… but who is always asking ME how to do things? That’s right, the float. The team lead never did, but guess who had to retrain people because the lead literally told them WRONG? That’s right.
Someone else who did something similar with 2 people pointed out the hypocrisy and was given “points” in our company’s reward program that equalled about $3 for training 2 people over the course of 2-3 months.
What’s even worse, I found out that the team lead got paid to train me when I started… even though I didn’t even meet her until I’d been working there for almost a year and done the work of 3 people completely solo for 3 months of that year starting 8 weeks after starting the job. 🙄
Yet they can’t figure out why very few people stay for very long.
As soon as you allow yourself to be the simp, the simp you will be.
If you speak up for yourself, you will either get fired (which is a juicy unlawful termination lawsuit if you're smart and have a paper trail) or you will get respect.
I got fired and was never allowed to have a paper trail. Everything was never put in writing (email, teams message, etc) or I was told for confidentiality reasons, I was not allowed to see it. “As soon as you allow yourself to be the simp…” is a gross over simplification of life. Stop blaming people for being treated badly, and maybe go after the people treating people badly; although, from the looks of it, that would require you to change some of your own behaviours. I already have a solid wrongful termination claim as all of this was tied to my disclosure of a disability and HR didn’t know they were supposed to tell me a few things. Too bad, as an unemployed person, I can’t afford a lawyer. I can’t even afford my meds right now.
Those “favors” really do stack up over the years…
Yep, but the manager & company never seem to repay the favors you do for them.
@@kellykat8057 ya…
So much and those “favors” become a part of your job and when you say no, they’ll say you aren’t doing your job and you’ll be in the red for probation or firing.
I think at this point I'm more afraid of saying something stupid in front of Veronica than running into a xenomorph in a dark alley.
And then they subtly threaten you with a fake warning of not meeting performance expectations
My boss always said the best compliment from a company is green and fits in his wallet (other colors for other countries).
I stand by this. I “trained” people for half a year. I’m not a manager. No increase pay. It affected me so badly explaining what “we” as a company do, over and over, I literally couldn’t even refer to myself individually. Literally started using the plural we for self and it confused everyone and frustrated me immensely.
So yeah, speaking from a psychological experience, it does have an impact and you should be paid for it.
I don't know how I stumbled upon these but Lord knows I'm so grateful! These are AWESOME! Keep up the good work Veronica!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yessss Bree! (Snap-snap)..... These video's 📹 are just what I need.
I had a manager call me on my day off at 7am (I worked 7pm til 3am) about a truly trifling matter. I told her 1) there was precedent for what I had done 2) it was my day off and the middle of the night for me
and 3) would she just feck off please, and I hung up. She called me back about 5 minutes later and said that I wasn't blank Hotel material and I was fired. Totally worth it lol.
Good on you!
The truth of it is that if an employee did this, they would be fired. It goes to show that our work culture is in the sewer for employees.
You're right but depending on which state it might not work out well for the company
If you're excellent at your job, no they would not
@TheParadiseParadox that's pretty bull.
If you fit a niche critical role that's hard to replace then yes this holds true? Otherwise? You're only as valuable as the next cheapest person they can find to do your job.
Being great gets you nowhere these days.
@@Things_I_wish_I_knew if you say so
@@TheParadiseParadox been working for about 25+ years at this point in my life, lots of data points from others say the same.
Unless you're in a niche, hard to replace critical position and moderately good at your job, you're 100% replaceable with cheaper labor should they ever want to do so.
My father is a controller (1 step away from a CFO or chief financial officer which is a position comparable to a CEO just in the accounting side.) Damn good at what he does to, he gets passed over and replaced all the time.
Auditors commend his work and he's stopped a few companies from going bankrupt.
Doesn't save him though if they find someone who's willing to do more for less pay.
😂😂😂 Veronica don't play... all her videos let you know that she doesn't work for free.
People used to not mind doing "favors" for their company but since they have taken pretty much everything good out of employment no one wants to do "favors" anymore but the company still thinks the employee enjoys working for them and can't understand why not.. Good to see really.
My last employer needed someone to write a new program for a specific thing in our call center. One of our customer service leads was a programmer and took on the assignment, It took a month, he got it done, then he was hosed by management for not meeting his monthly assigned goals for his position. Just goes to show the truth of that old adage, "No good deed goes unpunished."
In reality you wouldn't need to become sarcastic. Just discuss that there are two options: you go into overtime and they compensate you for that or they take work off your plate. You can't take on additional tasks while also being expected to reach the same targets. If their choice is neither, then your answer is no.
When you're being disrespected, you have no obligation to be respectful.
A bully cannot cry "rude" when they're the instigator of rudeness.
Learn your worth or be a doormat. These shitty jobs are everywhere.
@@ImNotaRussianBot You do have an obligation to yourself to not lower yourself to the same level as a "bully" and to remain professional in your communication. There is no need to become sarcastic in communicating your terms and boundaries in a concise and clear manner, other than not being in control of your emotions and feeling the need to exact revenge instead of simple communication. People who think they should lower their own communication style to that level think they have some higher ground, but they are mostly only revealing they are actually no better than the employer they claim is acting unprofessional. Choose to act in the same manner, but then you have no more claim on the high road anymore.
Why would you think I would work for free?
She had her light and water bill on hand.
I worked for Beutler Heating and Air years ago and Rick Wiley the president and micromanaging master decided that your job was base level and he'd pile up random work like he'd say "cold call 30 people and get 10 customers". If it didn't happen or your actual job didn't get done yin had to explain in a huge meeting how you got caught in the "whirlwind" and failed at your tasks. Then everyone gets to chime in and tell you how to get 3x's the work done in the same amount of time... I walked out in a meeting where they told me I'd have to be project manager and a sales person while still being paid as a technician. I was super happy to quit that job.
I've told my boss sure but I won't be getting as much work done as usual due to training the person and my boss had no issue with that.
Then unlike far to many other bosses, yours is a good boss and a decent, reasonable human being. You're lucky.
Yeah, I tried that once.
They pulled out my job description and pointed out the “other tasks as determined by manager” line, and a few months later they found a reason to fire me because I wasn’t a “team player”
Yeah, never sign a contract that has a line like that or "all connext tasks" or the like. Whenever I see that on a contract, I walk out without even the courtesy of a "thanks but this wont work out"
It's okay. You're better off leaving a company that can't even be bothered to write up specific job descriptions or hire the necessary people to fulfill them.
I always find that clause interesting. Won't the new employee have a supervisor when they arrive, why isn't the supervisor mandated to train said new person? That should be a critical part of the supervisor's job description, no?
Veronica is a complete dawg and a savage 😬😬😬
I love when it's started with "Do you have a minute?" and the video is exactly on minute long.
I SWEAR VERONICA BE BULLYING THE HELL OUT F MANAGER.AND SHE STILL THERE😂😂😂😂😂
She's not bullying her, she's setting the record straight.
Also, every interaction gets a recap email, so manager knows what's up xD
Standing your ground is not bullying. If V intimidated her manager into doing it for her, that would be bullying
@@Callimo IM BEING SARCASTIC. 💯💯💪🏿💪🏿💅🏾💅🏾
@@brucelucasjr5856 @Callimo IM BEING SARCASTIC. 💯💯💪🏿💪🏿💅🏾💅🏾. Get off
@@BEAUTYFUL18Thanks for clarifying. I misinterpreted as well. Tone and inflection are nearly impossible to convey in text. 😊
A recruiter made a low ball offer last month and told me that she prefers candidates who want to work for passion instead of income.
😂😂😂 the audacity
I berate recruiters like this, no holds barred. Literally had to tell one recruiter "You called me in the middle of my workday to offer me less money than I currently make, at a worse place of employment further away. I should bill you for the time you wasted."
@@mattgeekman that's just being rude from you
say no and keep it pushin
you don’t do ANYTHING at WORK as a favor. these bosses are crazy
It's not really about being "brilliant", it's about not needing the job/not being afraid to lose the job. Most companies wouldn't fire you, but make you miserable to make you quit if you don't align to their "needs".
Where I'm from,that would be considered a 'constructive dismissal' (meaning the company engineered bad conditions for the employee in an effort to make them uncomfortable and even quit) and the company can be sued.
@@BlindfoldSniperWhere you from?
@@OGTK00 New Zealand.
I'm rolling in my bed laughing. Ohhh Veronica. 😂😂😂😂😂
Nah, this is a one way trip for getting fired. But I do tell my bosses that my work will be affected and won't get done.
Depends on the boss, depends on the job, depends on the job market.
If your boss is insecure, yes. If they aren’t stuck in their own ego, they won’t be so hurt. It’s really not that deep. Some people are honestly TOO sensitive to ANY subordinate feedback.
Exactly, rather than giving attitude, it's better to manage expectations
If more people would stand up for themselves in the workplace, and/or join a union to stand up for them, then companies would have to take notice and begin paying fairly and treating their workers right.
Stand up for yourself! VOTE for worker's rights!
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Why would you be expected to train a new employee that you will not be supervising? Isn't it the job of the supervisor or manager to train new employees since these new employees will be reporting to them and as such they should already be capable of doing the work that will be assigned to the new employee?
My response from now on in this kind of situation: how do I invoice that? Thanks 😂
My life runs on income! 👏🏻 Solid words.
I would never take on additional work or be expected to train people without the proper compensation. These are the many things managers try to pull out of their bag of tricks to try to make you feel as if you're not a "team player" (I've always HATED that phrase). I'm a team player when I'm doing the job I was hired to do to the best of my ability and supporting my co-workers. THAT'S IT. If a manager wants more, then they either PAY or I WALK. It's really that simple.
This is not a brilliant employee this is someone who speaks for themselves.
No, she IS a brilliant employee. The manager/company always come to her to train others. That means she does her job well; has experience; is a good trainer; is willing to be a "team player" simply by considering being a trainer; and, meets company goals whether she is training someone or not. That IS a brilliant employee, who should be valued by the company, and should be compensated as such.
And, there's a difference between your claim that "she's speaking for herself"; and what she is actually doing, which is "SPEAKING UP for herself".
Companies & managers need to get over themselves & this idea that you being employed by them is a favor you are doing for the worker. It is not.
The company needs a job to be done, and the employees they hire are providing the work & skills of that job for fair compensation. It is an exchange of value=fair wages & benefits for work done, not favors.
If your customers or clients don't pay you in favors, then you shouldn't expect workers to do the same.
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Managers that say "go ahead and do this" like it was your idea and you now have permission are usually afraid to be assertive and often don't own their mistakes.
Training a new employee is a manager's duty, not a staff duty. Having the bills ready on hand is pure gold BTW, I must remember this stunt the next time shit go down the pipe.
It's very often staff duty. But the whole point is it should be recognised that less work will be achieved while training. That's why in software there's so much stress on TEAM performance over periods of time you can average, and not individual performance (if you have a good manager).
Saying a job will take 1 day is worthless if it takes the new hire 3 days while learning, or 2 days with a senior member losing half a day to helping etc.
@@plukerpluck You sound like one of the incompetent supervisors or managers. There's no way on God's green earth that TRAINING new employees should be staff duty. New employees do not report to "staff" nor are they supervised or evaluated by "staff".
Supervisors and managers MUST be able to do the work of new employees whom they will be supervising and evaluating and so they MUST train them; NOT line staff members!
Don't be ridiculous!
@@tripleb1960 On the job training from senior staff is the situation in most non-minimum wage jobs... It's true of apprentices in trade jobs, it's true of many office jobs, it's true in technical IT roles. Basically training, sure, that's company (and this supervisor level). Passing on knowledge is a team thing in most jobs, and if you don't think that then it sounds like you've only ever worked retail.
@@plukerpluck Gaslighting could never work with me. "Training" and "passing on knowledge" are not the same and certainly the latter would not take on 6 weeks as is stated in this video.
The manager CLEARLY says to TRAIN the new employee. So get tf out of here you useless manager/supervisor or aspirant thereof.
I did the company a favor and they gave me a promotion and a raise... said no employee ever
I was ready to go off on two of my managers this week due to similar situations. I don't mind helping snd even training but when doing that stops me from doing what i need to do and you the manager, who is expected to assist us when needed at this job, keep running off and not letting ke go on ky break in a reasonable time? Yeah you're gonna hear it from me. Doing double roles is your job manager. Don't play with me
They want you working like a busy bee so you don't waste time with things like nature breaks (which everyone needs), or having lunch. If we were machines they'd still complain because we needed an oil change once in a while. These people need boundaries
"There's no need to be sarcastic." Oh but there is though.
You can have 100,000 Attaboys in the bank and the first time you refuse you're out the door. Companies are day to day crisis operations.
I have the same energy when I tell people: "Sure, I can do that for you. Which of the six critical projects I'm currently working on do you want me to drop?"
Damn!!! Haven't these people learned yet??? They continue to try her. Veronika is NOT the one.
I think the title needs to be updated to 'Brilliant employees are a scummy manager's worst nightmare' because there's no other word that as well describes what this manager is being here.
MY LIFE DOESNT RUN ON FAVOURS 👏
Finally a series that puts everything I have ever thought and mostly everything I have said right out there for everyone. Great job and even better tactics to handle situation in a finality. Meaning that you only have to have each conversation once. Ms. Veronica does not work for free and you have to give to get when it is after 5. I hear her! ❤
What would have Veromica said if the manager tried to gaslight her with, "you need to be a team player"
On any team there are bonuses given for efforts above and beyond the call of duty. You're asking me to be the MVP but you're not giving me the trophy
LOVE THIS!
"Hey, boss. Help me reprioritize everything else on my plate. Since there are only so many hours in a day, something has got to go."
I can only say this in a dream
Totally agree. Wish I had the guts to say this to my manager 😂
The problem here is the time. In the US can a company really say "train this person AND do all your previous tasks"? It just wouldn't happen in the UK, and our employment laws are really weak.
Unfortunately, yes that is how things are for worker's here in the USA.
That's why I'm VOTING BLUE, so Republicans & PROJECT 2025 don't make things worse for workers.
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❤😂❤Gotta just Love Veronica's attitude ❤
Reminder to start carrying a copy of my electricity and water bill around.
Yes. Watch this and learn from this. Then apply it in your lives and see yourself stay mediocre.
Whereas I know CEOs and VPs mentoring kids who don't even work in their Organisations for free. I see them doing a lot of favours, in fact. And it always works out for them.
Literally for everything in life “WWVD” what would Veronica do?
This is one way employers are guilty of WAGE THEFT!
Most people aren’t”Veronica,” because they’re concerned they would lose their jobs, or not be considered for promotion. And employers take advantage of that fear, which is why working class people need UNIONS!
Exactly.
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Correction: Brilliant employees are a BAD managers worst nightmare.
There are a lot of bad managers out there, but I’m getting tired of us good managers getting lumped in with them all the time.
dnt expect me to go above and beyond
Super funny. Unionize girl to get those results in those negotiations!
It is all so so so true. Lived it. My former employer called it "MINISTRY".
I have seen a lot of these but this is the first time the boss lady was drawn from behind. Something about it.... 😳
They are stick figures. Please go outside.
We get asked quite a lot to train but it goes without saying that our tasks for the training time will be decreased.
Corporate America has done this to itself.
I've done a lot of stuff for free including training, bring it up at my performance appraisals, write it in my CV, get better offers elsewhere, and get pay raises. I've gone from earning monthly 11k in 2019 to 30k today, switching jobs twice.
Veronika is going to get fired
I doubt it. Based on another video, Veronika probably has enough recordings of the manager going against company policies and later pretending it was someone else's (specifically blaming Veronika in that one) fault to cost the manager her job.
😂😂😂 hey, Veronica, can I be your friend?
Choice/reality hits home
What if you see training as an opportunity to actually help someone else’s career and get them to grow? This is wisdom and an ethical approach to look at such things. I am a trainee and it’s always appreciated when someone takes the time to help and share their knowledge, and the moral aspect of this is way more important than a compensation. Because you get to grow and help others grow and open endless opportunities to learn and build relationships with trainees who will respect and appreciate you for the rest of their life.
This is especially true if it doesn’t affect you reaching your goal targets and you could actually enjoy the experience
I am not a trainer. I will onboard someone but will not train someone. You get a pdf file for onboarding.
What do you mean by "onboard" someone?
Here at my job, it's "do as you're told or you're fired."
We haven't had a raise in 3 years. The workload is balanced poorly, but we're all paid the same...
Time to find a better place to work. You have value & should be compensated fairly for it. Good luck!
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My company pays extra for people that qualify as "on the job trainers." It's a pittance, but it's something.
Oh man I would vote for her in an instant for congress.
Most big companies employ staff who are there to train new employees
There has to be some sort compensation, time off, leaving early, they dont want to pay, good for you.
"Other duties as assigned".
Why even ask her? You know what she's going to say 😂
In the real world, she wouldn't be asked and be working alone with no interactions with other staff because they are plotting how to get rid of her
Because the other staff are corporate slaves without a spine
Fine. People like her often "fail" upwards anyways. Who tf needs work "friends" who treat you like that? She has consistently been shown to get her work done efficiently and quickly. Someone else will take her on no sweat. 💅
In reality if you speak up for yourself like she did, you would be immediately replaced by someone else.
Lol they’ve gotten ingenious about training now. They’ll tell a new person to shadow someone. Basically stand and sit around someone with the position, watch what they do and follow suit. That way the “trainer” isn’t technically teaching or having to handle their job while taking on new duties in helping rewatch and the new employee is being trained on the job.
I couldn't dare do that to my boss lol😅
Add a line in the job description at hire that includes training of other employees.
Look the only kind of profession when favours can be requested is the world's oldest profession 😂😂😂😂😂 no I'm not doing you any freaking favours!
What's the world's oldest profession?
If only shit like this worked in the real world
Absolutely love these
Like an idiot, I've fallen for this scam multiple times at multiple places. What's weird is that the first time, I knew it was wrong but I guess I really just wanted to be helpful or something. Then I started thinking it was normal. Never again.
Or ... "You'll push back my deadlines for 45 days, right?"
No, no, no. Extra work CAN work on a basis of favors. But...favors work in BOTH directions! It's literally a favor. As in, she does the manager this favor, and the manager OWES a compensated favor. Does the employee later make a serious error for which her employment could be terminated? Oh, look. Time to call in that favor. Yes. Seriously.
Veronica is right.
These series beginning to look more and more like some sort of revenge porn.
It all depends on the contract, folks
These clips remind me of the differences which used to be clearly stated when I was first employed as a lecturer. A lecturer was a ‘professional’ - their work was evaluated in terms of outcomes achieved, however they were achieved and whatever time they took. Professionals were paid more because they had to be innovative in achieving timely quality outcomes and training new or more junior colleagues was an obvious part of their responsibility. ‘Employees’ were people without the capacity or training to do this. Their output was measured in terms of hours worked, items on a list of duties completed etc. Creators/ vs operators. Management and employee in this series are talking from opposite sides of this divide.
Forgot to say - the University quite blatantly tried to exploit this difference when they wanted to reduce spending, by suggesting they could get rid of many of the ‘by the hour’ type staff and simply have the academics pick up their work as well, since academic contracts did not put any upper limit (or even mention) the amount of time that needed to be spent on the job
POV: nothing was brilliant
What we have here is an employee who specifically also has emotional/interpersonal intelligence, not only general intelligence.
When I was serving my six-month sentence at Starbucks, Deb the food service manager said I'd be training the new person coming in. I said, "How much is the pay for training?" She chuckled like I was joking and said, "Well there's not, it's really easy to train another person." I said, "I'm not taking on another responsibility without the pay commensurate thereto." She had no response and walked away.
I think that was why she didn't do ANYTHING for me when I left, much less the chocolate cake and PA announcement she had done for my (asshole male) coworker.
And that's why you remain a minimum wage worker.
I feel like when the economy turns down they always let go of the people who push back too much or not at all and there is this third group who pushes back just enough to remain effective and valuable to the company (and there is a limit on how many employees can reside on this area) and I have always found it hard to stay in this middle ground
The reason I say this is because I get the feeling that Veronica would fall into the group that is considered to push back too much… wts I think that if you can rack up enough savings then may be it’s okay to stay unemployed when the economy hits a rough patch …
I don’t why I’m saying all this , guess these videos tend to trigger me…
No problem: I have five other tasks on the table. Kindly prioritise them for me, well you? Because some of them well be late by adding that sixth task.
Oh, and once you did, please tell the one who gave me the task(s) that now fall down the table that you deamed them less important than the training of the new gal. Because only if they approve, I will start the training.
Unfortunately, standing up for yourself in a situation like this is likely to get you fired or sidelined.
Its like being a photographer and being asked to do a session for free because it will be 'great exposure'. Oh really how does exposure pay my bills (including the lens I may have to buy for this amazing exposure).