Relatedly, when they say "we’re a family here!" Dude, my dad beat me with jumper cables and my mom put out lit cigarettes on me, saying we’re family here doesn’t mean to me what it means to you.
Now THAT'S the way to handle managers who think they own your life 24/7/365. Or, as I always say, "You rent my time and expertise for eight hours a day. You do not OWN me."
@@nataliesaadsgiftsandcraftswork life balance is a fringe benefit that not all companies understand. Fortunately, my employer does understand that and because I work in defense, I am obligated to charge ALL my time spent working or discussing job related matters. Winning.
@@nataliesaadsgiftsandcrafts and that's fine. If they don't want to renew the contract they still won't, even if you kill yourself for the job. And who said anybody takes pleasure in continuing with unserious manager like that?
My current contract states 9-5 M-F. We can discuss a new contract with new hours and compensation if you like. I'll be available to discuss this between the hours of 9-5 M-F.
@@HaloHighlightz If someone is supposed to be available 24/7 and gets a 5 minute call a few times a week, it isn't fair to pay them ONLY the time on the phone. That also means they need to keep track of the phone and also be fit for duty. That shouldn't be free.
"No personal phones at your desk." "Now, in order to log into your computer, you'll need 2FA enabled which will send confirmation to an app you're required to install on your personal device."
Right! I was pissed when we had to install *_Authenticator app_* on my “personal phone” to log into my computer to do _”work duties!”_ …but I found a way around it so now I don’t have to have the app anymore.😌
I once had a manager call me at 4am about money that came up missing on a shift I wasn't even on. I asked her if she was on meth, as a joke, but she left the company a week later to check into rehab. Turns out she was. TF. 😂
I may even choose to go out of my way to work more than that if you give me some warning and there's a solid reason for me to stay after or come early, but not just when you decide you need me outside those hours. Poor planning on your end does not create an emergency on my end.
Yea at least veronica admits that after 5, she doesnt value her job enough to care what could be wrong an have the care or drive to simply answer a phone an possibly solve a problem an show value to the manager an company. I mean, how entitled do you have to be to think you are “working” and need “paid” just to answer a phone call smh. Answering what is likely a brief call is not “working after hours” smh, its being a decent person and being someone responsible enough to make sure they have a job to come back to. It shows dedication an reliability. You know who gets promoted? Not the pompous entitled one that sits there tellin me they will continue to ignore calls. Its the one who demonstrates reliability an drive. The one i can count on in a pinch or when an issue presents.
@@abyssabyss7203 . I mean, how entitled do you have to be to think you are “working” and need “paid” just to answer a phone call smh. If you cant figure out what the reason is to be paid for work then you wont understand the answer. It shows dedication an reliability. It shows you are willing to be exploited for free work. The one i can count on in a pinch or when an issue presents. "Be a team player"? That old schtick? I am on my time off, I am not working you are not paying me hence I wont work for free. Work= pay no hence no pay= no work.
@@abyssabyss7203 Oh please! Skip apologizing for thoughtless employers who think they own your time 24/7. I had a part time job with management in a different state. They called me at home 9:30 PM and wanted me to drop by the office on my day off to fax them something they should have known they needed on any of the days I was in the office. We had 3 part time employees. We provided our work schedules for them when they took over management of our office. They just assumed we would drop what we were doing to give them what could have had with a little planning ahead.
Im an ERP administrator and bosses do that very often. They used to do this until i added it on my bill every month. No discussion or whatsoever, there are remarks down on the form to give reason. No need to call
IT, 30+ yrs here. On-call about 50% here as well, but not in past decade plus. I was very well compensated when I was, but NEVER again. Funny thing was, at one job, on-call paid so well, people used to clamor to get MORE, taking over other people's shifts. Best case scenario, it could boost your pay for the week by 40+%, making your sad State government wages actually look decent.
IT as well. I always hated being on call and at one point had one of those fitness trackers that also tracked your sleep. Turns out while on-call I was never getting down into the deeper layers of sleep. No wonder I always felt like crap afterwards. I stopped after that and have refused it since.
The question to ask is this: "Are you requesting that I perform work after hours for no compensation? If so, can you please put that request in witting as it is a modification of my employment agreement?"
@@drozcompany4132Don't talk to HR about it, they'll just find ways to screw you over together with your boss. Instead keep it in writing and do some research, and threaten legal action if they cross a line.
In California: can you please put that request in writing so I can file an official complaint with the state? I mean, technically, I think it's a national OSHA violation, but only some states really enforce it aggressively.
My manager and supervisors: "absolutely no cellphones" Also my manager and supervisors: constantly checking their cellphones answering clearly non work related phone calls, looking at their phones and texting as you are talking to them ...
Double standards burn me up. As a manager i never took personal calls. Especially because as an operations manager i had to have multiple cell’s and i did not want to give the impression to my employees that the rules only applied to them. I always checked/answered an returned calls an such during lunch (i never took breaks either an barely took lunches). I would work through unpaid. Doing work because its the rite thing to do and good for the customer an good for the company that pays your salary is a concept an level of work that seems more an more lost on society especially reading some of these ither comments
@@abyssabyss7203 u sound like the sort of manager I would want to work for. Wouldnt want u taking work related calls off of the clock though u deserve to be payed for that. Work related calls go through our business phone so it just doesnt even seem like they need their phones on them.
@@abyssabyss7203I had a previous job where the boss didn’t want us using our phones while we worked. She even had an issue one day when my phone was in my desk and vibrating because someone was calling me. She asked me about it and I was like “yea, but I didn’t answer it”. Like wtf. And this lady would have all types of personal calls about her kid or dog while she had you sit to speak with her
These 'skits' actually sound like real recordings of real conversations with the same awkwardness and hesitation in the voice of the managers when they are about to say something dumb that even they are aware of is unreasonable XD
I’m Gen X. I think that Gen Z kicks ass. You don’t let yourself get taken advantage of, and you realize that you work to live, not live to work. I’m really proud of all of you.
Depends on the work co tract and salary position. But all that should be clearly laid out in the contract. Also when they say I need you to be a team player throw it in their face. "Sure, and I expect my team to understand and support my ability to spend my down ti.e freely, or compensate me for the extra work not covered in my contract."
@@chiefgully9353 Of course! I have worked a few salaried positions and ended up working 40-60 hours weekly in order to accomplish all of the work. Work that I actually enjoyed fortunately. It’s all about what is agreed upon initially and both sides being reasonable and respectful.
@@xandercrew6088and if we all learned from her. No one would get fired. If we all stood up to the BS. Micro managing would dissolve and management would think twice before approaching employees with mundane garbage and REALLY do thier job like managing the company and quit trying to act like Betty or Barney bad @$$ and control everyone.
I like her and everything she says is correct. It’s sad that acting like this will get you fired however. This simply doesn’t work in real life as much as we all wish it did.
My dad said it was because everything went corporate stockholders and most jobs are no longer Union. But there will be the debate and argumentos about the pros and cons of Union.
Not if you are a salaried employee… In most states if you are pay the salary, they expect you to work whatever hours they tell you to essentially…. You can obviously remind them that your agreement was 9 to 5 with a 40 hours a week as max work hours… So if you work more than 40 hours a week, you were literally giving yourself a pay cut because you could be working another job making hourly or more salaried money. It kind of sucks …. There needs to be work reform. People who are paid the salary should have to be paid some kind of overtime pay past 40 hours so companies stop making people work more for less money and with no promotion and no and no pay increase in sight. Hourly people get paid overtime as time and a half and double time on holidays … If we did the same thing for salaried employees, may be companies would start thinking about hiring more people instead of working other people to death all the while the corporate heads make millions of dollars in bonuses a year while they flaunt it in front of us
@sickofcrap8992 lol no the exempt status applies to A salaried working making ove x in compensation And a few other specific use cases. Being salaried alone does not exempt you. Likewise their are still laws governing work hours for those employees though usually these are contractually based.
You could have a set rate for phone calls. Say $25 a minute for phone calls after 5pm. That would force the company to decide if they really needed to talk to you on your time off.
It's a thing, for sure. At my work, a call outside of work hours (from a manager asking someone to do work tasks, I mean, not one team member texting another about car pooling or whatever) is treated as the equivalent of coming in for a 3-hour shift, even if the problem is resolved remotely in a few minutes. It's amazing how many problems can wait until the next day.
I don't think it's funny because I have had all of these same conversations and been harassed, gaslighted, and layed off with no warning every single time. Right now I am still going through this crap except now I have a union job which just makes the whole back and forth even more petty. Veronica is serious. It's her managers that are the joke.
❤❤❤ I was salaried only twice and both worked out well considering ❤ was on call 24/7 but they were great ppl to work for. Today I couldn’t see myself doing it again unless the benefits were out of this world.
Best I ever had at this one place (IT) was that if you had a call after hours, on-call or not, it was an automatic 1 hour of OT on your timesheet as soon as you answer. There was also a, legally-required, on-call premium if you were on-call. If you were not on-call then it was 'best effort' which meant I will call you back when and if I want to. And if I do, that's 1 hour OT on my timesheet. Loved the pay, hated being on-call.
I had a boss like this once. I told them they own me for 8 hrs a day, I am not obligated to respond beyond that. I don't care what is going on after my shift. So I agree. Pay extra if you want extra. Or expect the bare minimum for paying minimum.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 If they got a union, Veronika need to be head of it and teach classes, because if I could’ve spoken with such grace, I would still have my little job.
As an IT guy I had to agree to be on call 24/7 at every job I had and almost all of them expected to utilize my personal cell phone. 0ver 30 years they screwed me out of hundreds of hours of late night work fixing the current crisis. Then they call you in one day and apologeticly lay you off with no notice and no comp time or compensation for the OT keeping their company website and IT functions open for business...
Veronica is my inspiration- unapologetically direct! She knows what she wants. She clearly articulates without becoming aggressive or using foul language. She casually outsmarts management with their own employee requests and policies each and every time! Veronica you are my shero!❤
I'd like her to say " I have an agreement at work, that we don't have cell phones out due to the nature of what we do. I have an agreement with my family members I don't have my cell phone out at home due to what we do. "
You mean the generations before gen Z that put up with all the shit they put up with so they could earn a decent living? One that allowed little gen Z'ers to participate in extracurricular sports.. clubs.. etc? One that put food on the table so baby gen Z had something to eat 3 times a day? Previous generations did what was necessary to provide for their family. Stop making this a generational thing and see it for what it is. A rich vs poor.. boss vs employee thing. I don't know anyone in my 55 years on this planet who consciously chose to spend time at work rather than with their family without that choice providing a tangible benefit for their family. Myself... personally... I spent 20 years working myself to exhaustion for employers and family. It took a near death accident to make me realize that NO ONE in my life at the time valued ME for anything more than what they could get from me... so I quit them all.... and started working for myself. I was not put on this earth "for the benefit of others".
This motivated me to remove my work email address from my phone. I was the Queen if quick email responses. Now they have to wait until the next day for a response. My boss never had the work email account on her phone. I followed her lead!
I wish I was more like Veronica with the capability of showing HR the attitude they show us. That professionalism in smiley faces while saying exactly the worker's rights.
😅 yes! I made them get me a phone, I don’t answer when I’m driving and I don’t answer after 5pm . Period end of story. I’m salaried, so it’s a fine line before you making less than you would hourly if you let them take advantage of you. Loving this channel! Update: boss tried to by pass my work phone not answering while driving by having a co worker call me on my personal cell. Same answer, I’m driving home, can’t this wait till tomorrow morning??! It did wait 😝
That’s right!!! And until we have some reform in the workplace with how salaried employees are paid for time beyond 40 hours a week, Weekends, and holidays… we have to be the Frontline for our own sanity
Honestly I think answering the phone or responding to messages is how it starts when salaried begin giving up their life for the job. I sent my Area Manager a Chat, with Zero urgency, that started with 'Just wondering ' and ended with 'Get back to me whenever, no rush'. It was a minor question about something weeks away. Some Pavlovian response had him call me immediately, the mad lad was driving when he got the message and decided that it was necessary to call while on the road. He even responds while on vacation! Honestly, I can be forgiven for sending a chat or email because I don't know he's on vacation but he should be setting up auto responses and statuses, silencing notifications. Not responding then an hour later say he can't do more because he's on vacay, he is not going to get that hour back.
I was a manager that didnt get a company phone. So...yeah..i never answered my phone after work hours either. Then the VP told me to answer my phone beacuse this job pays for it. I said..No sir my wife bought this phone and its on her plan. The look on His face was priceless. I got written up alot after that for dumb stuff 😂😅
I've worked in some offices where this exact conversation led to that employee being fired either immediately or within a few hours. I'm all for knowing your worth but if you don't have a backup plan then lie through your teeth till you're ready to walk out that door.
Knowing your worth is exactly it. If they're willing to fire you over this, sorry to say, but you weren't worth that much to them. Anybody willing to play this card, should be able to gauge the risks..... However, on a bigger picture, this video is not a bad message to send societally. Always gotta try and set higher standards.
They could've sued and been compensated. They could've secured themselves with a documentation of their discussion. Discrimination is the hardest thing for a corporation to protect themselves from
@@quoteme.goddess6957 What illegal discrimination do you see here? Most states are at-will employment, meaning that you are free to quit & they are free to fire you for any legal reason, or for no reason. The only limit is that they can't fire you for an illegal reason.
@@kanderson-oo7us so, just think about what you are saying for a moment. At-Will work states still have rules when it comes to what is or is not a legal reason for firing; discrimination isn't the exclusive territory of that. Ask yourself, do you think firing someone for being unwilling to do unpaid labor for a company would be a legal, or illegal reason for firing someone? Bearing in mind that companies still have to document and catalog specifically why someone is being fired(ex: for unemployment insurance purposes) and if in the course of an investigation it's found that they likely lied about that reason, do you think that has stuff penalties, or doesn't have any at all? 🙃
@@kanderson-oo7us I don't think there are any states where you can be fired for insisting on working according to your employment contract? This is why everybody needs to join a union.
I got accused of not being a team player at work because I didn't want to take kart in a fitness challenge at work and do the following: give up chocolate and junk food for an entire month, spend my lunch break walking and trying to walk 10,000 steps per day etc. To put this in perspective - my husband and I have been trying to get a small farm started. In the process of doing that we have been reclaiming and clearing family land that used to be farmland 50 plus years ago. We have laying hens, fruit trees, berries, and crops we plant. Everyone at work knew this and knew that when I got done in the office I went home , changed into farm clothes and worked for several more hours. The last thing I wanted to do was add even MORE physical activity to my day. Best part - it was VOLUNTARY to take kart in the fitness challenge but I was made to feel like crap and told to my face I wasn't a team player because I did not wish to participate. Even after explaining why. One of my CO workers even said she couldn't imagine how farming was a better workout than going to a gym.😂 Yeah
What make employers think because they hire you for 9-5, that you should be available to work for them after hours? When I leave work, I don’t know you until I clock back in!
I love these, it shows a change in the employees mindset that the company doesn’t own you and absolutely doesn’t care about you. Unfortunately it’s too late for me to enjoy the changes taking place, I’m retired fully disabled due to the years of constant 24x7 work related stress. Stress is the killer, 3 men on my floor had heart attacks and died within weeks of each other, see how fast your employer off loads your work on your co-workers when you’re gone adding to their stress. Your work “family” never contacts you again unless they have questions that you can help with. Corporate America built on the blood and bones of its employees all for shareholders value and executive bonuses.
We got almost the EXACT talks at work. But then they decided for THEIR benefit, everyone had to get a cellphone at our own expense. So we could be "on call" 24/7. But not be paid for being on call. And don't ever shut it off either. Ummmmm NO!
I'm one HELL of a team player. I've stayed over 3 hours late to fix cars and bail stranded motorists out of jams. I've crawled under cars in standing water in the parking lot. I ain't doing it for free.
I've had the same very solid stand on this for the past 7 years. No on call, and when i was hourly, I stated any call would be billed at a minimum of 1 hour of time. Now that I'm salary, I've just ignored it. Also glad I work on a team now that all feels the same way and never bothers me.
Veronica is me. I am her. I’ve legit done this before. Being at a company over 2 years, then 1 day the company that pays me and the client both blowing up my personal phone after hours because there was an issue on a project that was not mine. I provided them both a piece of my mind in a most no nonsense and professional manner. I was told I should be a team player. I said this has nothing to do with being a team player. First of all they were calling me about a project that wasn’t mine and I had already told them during working hours wasn’t mine and I didn’t have any visibility into it. I further told the company that pays me have you ever been contacted by the client about work that is mine because something is out of order. No, ok then don’t dial my personal phone number after hours. Because this is notice I won’t answer. I keep my work tight and clean. No more issues. My track record speaks for itself. I won’t tolerate nonsense when I’m off the clock. Calling people when they are off the clock or on PTO is a hard NO. I don’t believe in it and I don’t do it for any reason.
The "team player" line gets on my last nerve every single time. It literally means "sacrifice hours of your life that you can never recover, for no additional compensation or benefits, because we don't give enough of a shit about you to be fair with you."
I once went to an interview for a job that wanted entire control of our phone. Training was a month and during the 1st week of training they asked us for our phones because they were going to install a monitor app (It was basically malware that let the company control your phone) pretty much half of the people training noped out right there, and I was part of the other half which stayed only to get paid for the full 4 weeks of training. All of us were outside of HR handing in notices on the day after the last class of training. I still heard an HR intern say "omg, I do not understand why we have 98% turnover rate and people do not last more than 4 months here". After that I just deleted everything from my phone and reinstalled the other apps.
Employer trying to pretend an hourly employee is on call 24/7... good for Veronika standing up to that. "How can we fix this?" 1. Wait until I'm at work. 2. Pay me to be on call.
The "being a teamplayer" bs always annoys me. We're not a "team". I'm your scapegoat when shit hits the fan and once I've become replaceable you will do so. There's no team here.
On- Call pay is a thing. If a company needs access to employees after hours, then they're "on- Call" and there's an expected pay for that availability. Usually not full hourly pay for that, but you should be also paid if you're actually contacted and required to do any work related things.
Any employer that uses the phase "team player" or " we are a family" is a red flag and will be told "Not my circus, not my monkeys" . I only work the hours that I get paid for its the entire purpose of my continued employment. I definitely wouldn't work if I was independently rich. Dont know a single person that would.
And you work 480 minutes straight at work? Most f-off for 1-2 hours a day. Answering a text or call for 2 minutes, after normal work hours, once a week is sooooo terrible?
@@Eaglejake In order to take that 2 minute call, I have to be aware of my phone during all of the hours I'm not at work, and should be paid accordingly. Also, you're the manager, you manage your resources, if you can't find someone to fill in for a shift, hire more people, or pay me to be on call. I am paid to sit in a chair and do X for 8 hours, I will do that to the best of my ability, if I'm not paid to sit there with my phone accessible, then I'm not doing it. If you want to pay me to be on call that's a different story, I might take you up on it, but I'm not going to work without being paid. Do you go into a store and expect to pay 80% of the price of an item because your employees only give 80% of the effort they should during the day?
It's simple repression or maybe resentment. They didn't do the math when it came to hours vs. pay or figured they could somehow put in less hours when they agreed to be salaried. Or worse they believed the interviewer who said 'with bonus and incentives you could make as much as $$$' My workplace is always trying this with commissions to justify miniscule raises and it just does not work on hourly employees. Our thoughts and minds are not ruled by work and we don't get commission off the clock. If you need me outside posted work hours you failed somewhere.
I worked for a company where the manager would always call me a couple hours before I had to be in or on my day off with stupid questions that easily could have waited till I was in. It's obnoxious
Ex-freaking-actly.. Worked for a place that was just like this. No phones in the shop floor but they sure got pissy when you didn’t answer at 1 A.M. when they wanted you to come in to work on some B.S. “emergency” job. I had my number changed and when pestered about what the new number was, told them it was 200-5000. No, that’s not my phone number, that’s how much I expect to be added to my check every week for the privilege of them having it.
I solved that problem by having 2 cell phones. One for personal and one that I labeled as my work phone. The work phone number was the one listed on all my company employee information forms. However, that phone was also turned off at the end of the workday, on my days off, and on weekends. It was never answered off hours and went straight to voice mail.
Hello!!! I WISH I was more like Veronica in the beginning of my job. I was MORE VOCAL, standing up for me, and didn't take as much shit from NOBODY no more in the later part. Working past my scheduled hours, no OT pay but would get comp time, calls after hours, had to take my work phone with me on vacation, UNTIL I DIDN'T (I complained, WHY TAKE A VACATION IF YOU NEED TO HAVE THE PHONE?!?), LOL, just crazy!!! They loved to play that, "Other duties assigned." card all the time. Cleaning up after OTHER GROWN FOLKS was NOT my job, but we had to do it anyway.😒 I am now HAPPILY RETIRED!!!
"How do we fix this?" I really expected her to say something about being more organized from 9-5 so that time sensitive problems don't come up after 5 in the first place.
"Being a team player" God I hate this term. I worked for a resort where the night auditor would constantly call out .I was trained in this and the first couple of times they asked me to cover, I would. Until they started wanting me to come in later or leave early to make up for the hours instead of paying me the additional nine hours. When I pointed this out the next time I was asked and said no, the manager threw a fit. And when I say fit, I am talking terrible twos worthy fit, because I pointed out I didn't want to stay nine hours past my shift, where I had already come in early to help with checkouts to not get paid the overtime for it. She was screaming so loud the employees at the desk heard her. She had nobody else and when I mentioned she was salary and technically she could do it, she cried stating she couldn't miss her dungeons and dragons game that night. I held my ground and didn't cover. She ended up roping someone else into doing it that wasn't trained and then yelled at them when the reports were messed up the next day and the rooms weren't assigned.
The company I worked for did the same exact thing to me but with a cell phone and a laptop. I told them I did not need the cell phone or laptop at home. They threatened to fire me if I did not take them. So I did. When I got home after working 10 hours I just turned them off. I ended up leaving the company a year later.
Don't want her to steal company time by being on her phone.... but have no problem trying to steal her free time without pay... The nerve of her.. I had a manager I'd send an invoice to anytime she called me after 6. .. I do not work for free. You will be paying me for my time. PeriodT
I had middle management ask me to stay behind after quit time. I did that person's job after the Sun went down, and they went home and left me to do their job. The next day I made sure that her gig never arose again.
I feel like everything changes when you start seeing things like this as an OFFER which you are free to kindly refuse to take, just like Veronica does. „No thanks.“
"As the manager, it is your job to ensure that the team is able to complete the work assigned to them with the resources available and/or to ensure that the team is not assigned so much work that they cannot do so. So the person not being the team player in this scenario would be you. Your or the company's poor resource management is not my problem."
*Them:* Team player, blah blah blah, if that makes sense. *Me:* "I'm sure it makes sense to someone who is into gaslighting and manipulation. And that's not me."
@@jackseve pedantic of, relating to, or being a pedant a pedantic teacher 2 : narrowly, stodgily, and often ostentatiously learned a pedantic insistence that we follow the rules exactly Far worse, he was pedantic, pernickety, letting nothing inaccurate or of uncertain meaning go by-not an aphrodisiac quality. -Kingsley Amis 3 : UNIMAGINATIVE, DULL Pedantic song choices don't help any. Only 2 out of 10 songs stray from the most common classic-rock fodder. since we offering definitions willy-nilly to people who didn't ask for them.
@@1ofakindgirl444 usually, when i've seen people challenge management like this , they either are now ineligible for promotion and/or one day they are just no longer with the company. Could be a week, could be a few months.
I've had a couple of jobs like this. I told them, my cellphone is none of their business. I have it in case someone needs to contact me, and their opinions and policies are not more important than my family. And I NEVER answered the company's calls outside of work hours, so they started calling me from private numbers. Which I explained does not change that, unless I'm being paid, they are not entitled to my time.
“I’m sure it makes sense to someone”
that’s deadly
That’s my favorite response out of the whole skit 😂
I about hollered
Vile retort
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No one.
I am so SICK of employers saying you’re not being a team player. That’s a form of gaslighting
Yup
"I'm not a team player, this is not a game, I am contracted and this is not the discord group of one of my HOBBIES. "
Relatedly, when they say "we’re a family here!"
Dude, my dad beat me with jumper cables and my mom put out lit cigarettes on me, saying we’re family here doesn’t mean to me what it means to you.
It's gaslighting and an insult to our intelligence.
Any job I ever worked as a team player, it was the employers who were out of step with the team.
@ScienceReasonLove
I've worked jobs for actual families. They were all a dysfunctional family business.
Now THAT'S the way to handle managers who think they own your life 24/7/365. Or, as I always say, "You rent my time and expertise for eight hours a day. You do not OWN me."
@@nataliesaadsgiftsandcraftswork life balance is a fringe benefit that not all companies understand.
Fortunately, my employer does understand that and because I work in defense, I am obligated to charge ALL my time spent working or discussing job related matters.
Winning.
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Absolutely 💯🔥
@@nataliesaadsgiftsandcrafts and that's fine.
If they don't want to renew the contract they still won't, even if you kill yourself for the job. And who said anybody takes pleasure in continuing with unserious manager like that?
@@nataliesaadsgiftsandcrafts and if you are skilled, they still cant afford to let you go. You clearly dont understand the reality of the situation.
Her manager voice is so spot on that it actually makes me a little angry when I hear it.
Ugh, doesn’t it just give off the boss b*tch vibes? My skin started to crawl when she started to talk
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I am so triggered!! Lol
So quickly just to be clear I just wanted to check in with you about that and see what ...😅😅😅😅
She actually triggers my PTSD 😵💫
"How do we fix this?"
"I already fixed it. I told you I'm not available."
My current contract states 9-5 M-F. We can discuss a new contract with new hours and compensation if you like. I'll be available to discuss this between the hours of 9-5 M-F.
@@PrototypeNumber5x'D 9-5 motha (fill in blank)
Another work around could be that they can pay for the amount of time on the phone 😇
@@HaloHighlightz If someone is supposed to be available 24/7 and gets a 5 minute call a few times a week, it isn't fair to pay them ONLY the time on the phone. That also means they need to keep track of the phone and also be fit for duty. That shouldn't be free.
@@Moosetick2002 just count half an hour per out of office call.
In some European countries, managers would be in big trouble if caught contacting employees in their free time. I hope this becomes universal someday.
In Germany the company would get fined into oblivion
America is not that advanced.
I have been contacted by my boss at night
@@Pamela_Lopezstell him that is disturbing your sleep & you have to work in the morning 😂😭
I hope it becomes universal right away.
"No personal phones at your desk."
"Now, in order to log into your computer, you'll need 2FA enabled which will send confirmation to an app you're required to install on your personal device."
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Olaaay❤😂
Yesss! I had that at a job once. People balked at it but I didn’t see the big deal but now I do. It’s an invasion of my personal space!
I absolutely hate this!
Right! I was pissed when we had to install *_Authenticator app_* on my “personal phone” to log into my computer to do _”work duties!”_ …but I found a way around it so now I don’t have to have the app anymore.😌
I once had a manager call me at 4am about money that came up missing on a shift I wasn't even on. I asked her if she was on meth, as a joke, but she left the company a week later to check into rehab. Turns out she was. TF. 😂
That's awesome as you really touched that nerve.🤣🤣🤣🤣
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YOU GOT ME GIRL...HILARIOUS
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I'm a team player at the office during business hours. At home, on my time, my team is my family and I'm a player on _that_ team. Period.
This!
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I’ve said this for decades. I am a team player. We just don’t have t the same definition of team.
I may even choose to go out of my way to work more than that if you give me some warning and there's a solid reason for me to stay after or come early, but not just when you decide you need me outside those hours. Poor planning on your end does not create an emergency on my end.
"We need you to be a team player" = we want you to work unpaid after hours = NO
Lol, Veronica´s response: I AM a team player... from 9 to 5.
Yea at least veronica admits that after 5, she doesnt value her job enough to care what could be wrong an have the care or drive to simply answer a phone an possibly solve a problem an show value to the manager an company. I mean, how entitled do you have to be to think you are “working” and need “paid” just to answer a phone call smh. Answering what is likely a brief call is not “working after hours” smh, its being a decent person and being someone responsible enough to make sure they have a job to come back to. It shows dedication an reliability. You know who gets promoted? Not the pompous entitled one that sits there tellin me they will continue to ignore calls. Its the one who demonstrates reliability an drive. The one i can count on in a pinch or when an issue presents.
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. I mean, how entitled do you have to be to think you are “working” and need “paid” just to answer a phone call smh.
If you cant figure out what the reason is to be paid for work then you wont understand the answer.
It shows dedication an reliability.
It shows you are willing to be exploited for free work.
The one i can count on in a pinch or when an issue presents.
"Be a team player"? That old schtick? I am on my time off, I am not working you are not paying me hence I wont work for free.
Work= pay no hence no pay= no work.
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Oh please! Skip apologizing for thoughtless employers who think they own your time 24/7. I had a part time job with management in a different state. They called me at home 9:30 PM and wanted me to drop by the office on my day off to fax them something they should have known they needed on any of the days I was in the office. We had 3 part time employees. We provided our work schedules for them when they took over management of our office. They just assumed we would drop what we were doing to give them what could have had with a little planning ahead.
@@abyssabyss7203 CEO of Dewey, Screum, and Howe hs entered the comments.
You nailed this exactly. I worked in IT and on call half the time for 20 years. Employers are exactly this manipulative and intellectually dishonest.
Yes, they are.
Im an ERP administrator and bosses do that very often. They used to do this until i added it on my bill every month. No discussion or whatsoever, there are remarks down on the form to give reason. No need to call
🎉Now, once back at her desk, Veronika sends her an email recap of this convo😏 VERBATIM! MY SHERO.😂
IT, 30+ yrs here. On-call about 50% here as well, but not in past decade plus. I was very well compensated when I was, but NEVER again.
Funny thing was, at one job, on-call paid so well, people used to clamor to get MORE, taking over other people's shifts. Best case scenario, it could boost your pay for the week by 40+%, making your sad State government wages actually look decent.
IT as well. I always hated being on call and at one point had one of those fitness trackers that also tracked your sleep.
Turns out while on-call I was never getting down into the deeper layers of sleep. No wonder I always felt like crap afterwards.
I stopped after that and have refused it since.
The question to ask is this: "Are you requesting that I perform work after hours for no compensation? If so, can you please put that request in witting as it is a modification of my employment agreement?"
Yah, let's go talk to HR and see how they feel about working for slave wages. Unless this is Wal-Mart then they don't care.
They get around it by saying, "Occasional nights and weekends"
@@drozcompany4132Don't talk to HR about it, they'll just find ways to screw you over together with your boss. Instead keep it in writing and do some research, and threaten legal action if they cross a line.
@@drozcompany4132pointless. HR DOES NOT exist to protect YOU from the company. HR exists to protect the company from YOU... HR is NOT your friend.
In California: can you please put that request in writing so I can file an official complaint with the state? I mean, technically, I think it's a national OSHA violation, but only some states really enforce it aggressively.
"I am a team player from 9-5 Monday to Friday"...
And that's the end of that...😅😂😅😂😅😂
I literally laughed out loud at that one 😂
My manager and supervisors: "absolutely no cellphones"
Also my manager and supervisors: constantly checking their cellphones answering clearly non work related phone calls, looking at their phones and texting as you are talking to them ...
Double standards burn me up. As a manager i never took personal calls. Especially because as an operations manager i had to have multiple cell’s and i did not want to give the impression to my employees that the rules only applied to them. I always checked/answered an returned calls an such during lunch (i never took breaks either an barely took lunches). I would work through unpaid. Doing work because its the rite thing to do and good for the customer an good for the company that pays your salary is a concept an level of work that seems more an more lost on society especially reading some of these ither comments
@@abyssabyss7203 u sound like the sort of manager I would want to work for. Wouldnt want u taking work related calls off of the clock though u deserve to be payed for that. Work related calls go through our business phone so it just doesnt even seem like they need their phones on them.
@@abyssabyss7203I had a previous job where the boss didn’t want us using our phones while we worked. She even had an issue one day when my phone was in my desk and vibrating because someone was calling me. She asked me about it and I was like “yea, but I didn’t answer it”. Like wtf. And this lady would have all types of personal calls about her kid or dog while she had you sit to speak with her
@@abyssabyss7203 Do your employees get to call you at home to solve home related problems for free?
#Hypocrites
These 'skits' actually sound like real recordings of real conversations with the same awkwardness and hesitation in the voice of the managers when they are about to say something dumb that even they are aware of is unreasonable XD
Managers at this level are toady's to the managers above them.
The only difference is the manager not losing their shit at the brutal honesty 😂
I’m Gen X. I think that Gen Z kicks ass. You don’t let yourself get taken advantage of, and you realize that you work to live, not live to work. I’m really proud of all of you.
“I’m sure it makes sense to someone!” 😂 Again…Veronica makes another valid point. You are hired to work X hours daily. Not X + Y. 😘
Exactly!!
Depends on the work co tract and salary position.
But all that should be clearly laid out in the contract.
Also when they say I need you to be a team player throw it in their face.
"Sure, and I expect my team to understand and support my ability to spend my down ti.e freely, or compensate me for the extra work not covered in my contract."
Yes❤
@@chiefgully9353 Of course! I have worked a few salaried positions and ended up working 40-60 hours weekly in order to accomplish all of the work. Work that I actually enjoyed fortunately. It’s all about what is agreed upon initially and both sides being reasonable and respectful.
Exactly,Exactly!!!!!!😂
I wanna thank the person who invented Veronika. These skits have helped me so much at my job
California is passing a law like this soon ish. 😆 if I am off the clock, don’t contact me unless you pay me. 💰
I needed a Veronica at my job.
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Be veronica.
She got fired lol -- they all get fired. Veronica’s don’t last more than a few sassy lip moments IF that
We need a Veronica workshop or in service.
@@xandercrew6088and if we all learned from her. No one would get fired. If we all stood up to the BS. Micro managing would dissolve and management would think twice before approaching employees with mundane garbage and REALLY do thier job like managing the company and quit trying to act like Betty or Barney bad @$$ and control everyone.
I like her and everything she says is correct. It’s sad that acting like this will get you fired however. This simply doesn’t work in real life as much as we all wish it did.
My dad said it was because everything went corporate stockholders and most jobs are no longer Union.
But there will be the debate and argumentos about the pros and cons of Union.
Just got to be good at what you do
Solution : union
@@samdumaquis2033 💕
@tunisiancrochetchannel you're right
Veronica said it best. Anything after work hours and they still call you the company has to pay you. I do believe it’s wage theft if they don’t.
Not if you are a salaried employee…
In most states if you are pay the salary, they expect you to work whatever hours they tell you to essentially….
You can obviously remind them that your agreement was 9 to 5 with a 40 hours a week as max work hours…
So if you work more than 40 hours a week, you were literally giving yourself a pay cut because you could be working another job making hourly or more salaried money.
It kind of sucks …. There needs to be work reform.
People who are paid the salary should have to be paid some kind of overtime pay past 40 hours so companies stop making people work more for less money and with no promotion and no and no pay increase in sight.
Hourly people get paid overtime as time and a half and double time on holidays …
If we did the same thing for salaried employees, may be companies would start thinking about hiring more people instead of working other people to death all the while the corporate heads make millions of dollars in bonuses a year while they flaunt it in front of us
Only if you are salary AND overtime-exempt.
If you are just salary, you are still entitled to overtime pay.
@@Entertainment-is6exNot according to the NLRB.
@sickofcrap8992 lol no the exempt status applies to
A salaried working making ove x in compensation
And a few other specific use cases.
Being salaried alone does not exempt you. Likewise their are still laws governing work hours for those employees though usually these are contractually based.
They have to provide the phone and pay the bill if they expect you to be on call.
You could have a set rate for phone calls. Say $25 a minute for phone calls after 5pm. That would force the company to decide if they really needed to talk to you on your time off.
It's a thing, for sure. At my work, a call outside of work hours (from a manager asking someone to do work tasks, I mean, not one team member texting another about car pooling or whatever) is treated as the equivalent of coming in for a 3-hour shift, even if the problem is resolved remotely in a few minutes. It's amazing how many problems can wait until the next day.
😂😂😂 I am dying EVERY TIME I watch these! 😅🤣
I don't think it's funny because I have had all of these same conversations and been harassed, gaslighted, and layed off with no warning every single time.
Right now I am still going through this crap except now I have a union job which just makes the whole back and forth even more petty.
Veronica is serious. It's her managers that are the joke.
2:19 I'm sure it makes sense to someone
Really grateful to be hourly instead of salaried, for this exact reason. If I stay even one minute past closing, I get paid for that minute.
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I was salaried only twice and both worked out well considering ❤ was on call 24/7 but they were great ppl to work for.
Today I couldn’t see myself doing it again unless the benefits were out of this world.
Depends on the salaried position
Same here, brotha. Once their money is on the line their quick to get you the fuck outta their after your hours are finished.
I'm salaried, and I get OT. It's the law. My salary contract is for 40 hours. Anything over 40 hours is OT. Ijs
Best I ever had at this one place (IT) was that if you had a call after hours, on-call or not, it was an automatic 1 hour of OT on your timesheet as soon as you answer.
There was also a, legally-required, on-call premium if you were on-call.
If you were not on-call then it was 'best effort' which meant I will call you back when and if I want to. And if I do, that's 1 hour OT on my timesheet.
Loved the pay, hated being on-call.
Unacceptable! It creeps in slowly with just one call
01:32 Did you wanna see the contact??
I had a boss like this once. I told them they own me for 8 hrs a day, I am not obligated to respond beyond that. I don't care what is going on after my shift. So I agree. Pay extra if you want extra. Or expect the bare minimum for paying minimum.
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If they got a union, Veronika need to be head of it and teach classes, because if I could’ve spoken with such grace, I would still have my little job.
unions suck. Its cronyism
Most of us have been there.😢😢
If you have to do conversations like this at a job its not worth keeping. Just find a new one.
You give an inch, they take a mile
As an IT guy I had to agree to be on call 24/7 at every job I had and almost all of them expected to utilize my personal cell phone. 0ver 30 years they screwed me out of hundreds of hours of late night work fixing the current crisis. Then they call you in one day and apologeticly lay you off with no notice and no comp time or compensation for the OT keeping their company website and IT functions open for business...
That’s right, Veronica! Know the laws, policies, and maintain healthy boundaries. 🙌🏾
Veronica is my inspiration- unapologetically direct! She knows what she wants. She clearly articulates without becoming aggressive or using foul language. She casually outsmarts management with their own employee requests and policies each and every time! Veronica you are my shero!❤
Do you need to see the contract?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They don't like it when you talk down to them the way they talk down to you.
I'd like her to say " I have an agreement at work, that we don't have cell phones out due to the nature of what we do. I have an agreement with my family members I don't have my cell phone out at home due to what we do. "
This gives me hope that Gen Z is not going to lie down and be run over like the generations before.
You mean the generations before gen Z that put up with all the shit they put up with so they could earn a decent living? One that allowed little gen Z'ers to participate in extracurricular sports.. clubs.. etc? One that put food on the table so baby gen Z had something to eat 3 times a day?
Previous generations did what was necessary to provide for their family.
Stop making this a generational thing and see it for what it is. A rich vs poor.. boss vs employee thing.
I don't know anyone in my 55 years on this planet who consciously chose to spend time at work rather than with their family without that choice providing a tangible benefit for their family.
Myself... personally... I spent 20 years working myself to exhaustion for employers and family. It took a near death accident to make me realize that NO ONE in my life at the time valued ME for anything more than what they could get from me... so I quit them all.... and started working for myself.
I was not put on this earth "for the benefit of others".
This motivated me to remove my work email address from my phone. I was the Queen if quick email responses. Now they have to wait until the next day for a response. My boss never had the work email account on her phone. I followed her lead!
You know people died protesting working more than 8 hours a day? You give that up to be a "team player," you're spitting on their graves.
We think my great grandfather was killed for labor activism in early 20th century Boston.
who gives a shit lol
@@Woobieeee don't get in other people's way if they choose their own life and happiness then lol
@@trevorfranks69 watch out. We got serious guy over here.
@@Woobieeee Are you like nine years old?
Being an employee is always a one way street. Companies take as much as possible without giving anything.
Where has this been all my work life?
I wish I was more like Veronica with the capability of showing HR the attitude they show us. That professionalism in smiley faces while saying exactly the worker's rights.
😅 yes! I made them get me a phone, I don’t answer when I’m driving and I don’t answer after 5pm . Period end of story. I’m salaried, so it’s a fine line before you making less than you would hourly if you let them take advantage of you. Loving this channel!
Update: boss tried to by pass my work phone not answering while driving by having a co worker call me on my personal cell. Same answer, I’m driving home, can’t this wait till tomorrow morning??!
It did wait 😝
That’s right!!!
And until we have some reform in the workplace with how salaried employees are paid for time beyond 40 hours a week, Weekends, and holidays… we have to be the Frontline for our own sanity
Honestly I think answering the phone or responding to messages is how it starts when salaried begin giving up their life for the job.
I sent my Area Manager a Chat, with Zero urgency, that started with 'Just wondering ' and ended with 'Get back to me whenever, no rush'. It was a minor question about something weeks away.
Some Pavlovian response had him call me immediately, the mad lad was driving when he got the message and decided that it was necessary to call while on the road.
He even responds while on vacation! Honestly, I can be forgiven for sending a chat or email because I don't know he's on vacation but he should be setting up auto responses and statuses, silencing notifications. Not responding then an hour later say he can't do more because he's on vacay, he is not going to get that hour back.
I was a manager that didnt get a company phone. So...yeah..i never answered my phone after work hours either. Then the VP told me to answer my phone beacuse this job pays for it. I said..No sir my wife bought this phone and its on her plan. The look on His face was priceless. I got written up alot after that for dumb stuff 😂😅
I've worked in some offices where this exact conversation led to that employee being fired either immediately or within a few hours. I'm all for knowing your worth but if you don't have a backup plan then lie through your teeth till you're ready to walk out that door.
Knowing your worth is exactly it. If they're willing to fire you over this, sorry to say, but you weren't worth that much to them. Anybody willing to play this card, should be able to gauge the risks..... However, on a bigger picture, this video is not a bad message to send societally. Always gotta try and set higher standards.
They could've sued and been compensated. They could've secured themselves with a documentation of their discussion. Discrimination is the hardest thing for a corporation to protect themselves from
@@quoteme.goddess6957 What illegal discrimination do you see here? Most states are at-will employment, meaning that you are free to quit & they are free to fire you for any legal reason, or for no reason. The only limit is that they can't fire you for an illegal reason.
@@kanderson-oo7us so, just think about what you are saying for a moment. At-Will work states still have rules when it comes to what is or is not a legal reason for firing; discrimination isn't the exclusive territory of that.
Ask yourself, do you think firing someone for being unwilling to do unpaid labor for a company would be a legal, or illegal reason for firing someone?
Bearing in mind that companies still have to document and catalog specifically why someone is being fired(ex: for unemployment insurance purposes) and if in the course of an investigation it's found that they likely lied about that reason, do you think that has stuff penalties, or doesn't have any at all? 🙃
@@kanderson-oo7us I don't think there are any states where you can be fired for insisting on working according to your employment contract? This is why everybody needs to join a union.
I’ve had this conversation multiple times and refuse to answer at home. And work life balance is what I cited.
I got accused of not being a team player at work because I didn't want to take kart in a fitness challenge at work and do the following: give up chocolate and junk food for an entire month, spend my lunch break walking and trying to walk 10,000 steps per day etc.
To put this in perspective - my husband and I have been trying to get a small farm started. In the process of doing that we have been reclaiming and clearing family land that used to be farmland 50 plus years ago. We have laying hens, fruit trees, berries, and crops we plant.
Everyone at work knew this and knew that when I got done in the office I went home , changed into farm clothes and worked for several more hours.
The last thing I wanted to do was add even MORE physical activity to my day.
Best part - it was VOLUNTARY to take kart in the fitness challenge but I was made to feel like crap and told to my face I wasn't a team player because I did not wish to participate. Even after explaining why.
One of my CO workers even said she couldn't imagine how farming was a better workout than going to a gym.😂
Yeah
Where have you been in my life teaching me how to set some boundaries!??❤
What make employers think because they hire you for 9-5, that you should be available to work for them after hours? When I leave work, I don’t know you until I clock back in!
I love these, it shows a change in the employees mindset that the company doesn’t own you and absolutely doesn’t care about you. Unfortunately it’s too late for me to enjoy the changes taking place, I’m retired fully disabled due to the years of constant 24x7 work related stress. Stress is the killer, 3 men on my floor had heart attacks and died within weeks of each other, see how fast your employer off loads your work on your co-workers when you’re gone adding to their stress. Your work “family” never contacts you again unless they have questions that you can help with. Corporate America built on the blood and bones of its employees all for shareholders value and executive bonuses.
We got almost the EXACT talks at work. But then they decided for THEIR benefit, everyone had to get a cellphone at our own expense. So we could be "on call" 24/7. But not be paid for being on call. And don't ever shut it off either. Ummmmm NO!
I'm one HELL of a team player. I've stayed over 3 hours late to fix cars and bail stranded motorists out of jams. I've crawled under cars in standing water in the parking lot.
I ain't doing it for free.
I've had the same very solid stand on this for the past 7 years. No on call, and when i was hourly, I stated any call would be billed at a minimum of 1 hour of time. Now that I'm salary, I've just ignored it.
Also glad I work on a team now that all feels the same way and never bothers me.
Slavery was also "being a team player" i dont work for free whats your point 😂 LOVE these animations
Veronica is me. I am her. I’ve legit done this before. Being at a company over 2 years, then 1 day the company that pays me and the client both blowing up my personal phone after hours because there was an issue on a project that was not mine. I provided them both a piece of my mind in a most no nonsense and professional manner. I was told I should be a team player. I said this has nothing to do with being a team player. First of all they were calling me about a project that wasn’t mine and I had already told them during working hours wasn’t mine and I didn’t have any visibility into it. I further told the company that pays me have you ever been contacted by the client about work that is mine because something is out of order. No, ok then don’t dial my personal phone number after hours. Because this is notice I won’t answer. I keep my work tight and clean. No more issues. My track record speaks for itself. I won’t tolerate nonsense when I’m off the clock. Calling people when they are off the clock or on PTO is a hard NO. I don’t believe in it and I don’t do it for any reason.
I stumbled across this a few days ago and I'm already hooked. 😂.
Veronica, my soul mate 😅 Veronica Veronica Veronica 😅
😂😂😂😂. Veronica sets them straight ALL the time.
The "team player" line gets on my last nerve every single time. It literally means "sacrifice hours of your life that you can never recover, for no additional compensation or benefits, because we don't give enough of a shit about you to be fair with you."
I once went to an interview for a job that wanted entire control of our phone. Training was a month and during the 1st week of training they asked us for our phones because they were going to install a monitor app (It was basically malware that let the company control your phone) pretty much half of the people training noped out right there, and I was part of the other half which stayed only to get paid for the full 4 weeks of training. All of us were outside of HR handing in notices on the day after the last class of training. I still heard an HR intern say "omg, I do not understand why we have 98% turnover rate and people do not last more than 4 months here". After that I just deleted everything from my phone and reinstalled the other apps.
Is that even legal?
At that point just give you all a work phone it be cheaper lol
These are the BEST Human Resources/Public Relations / Labor Law lessons on the internet! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Employer trying to pretend an hourly employee is on call 24/7... good for Veronika standing up to that.
"How can we fix this?"
1. Wait until I'm at work.
2. Pay me to be on call.
The "being a teamplayer" bs always annoys me. We're not a "team". I'm your scapegoat when shit hits the fan and once I've become replaceable you will do so. There's no team here.
On- Call pay is a thing. If a company needs access to employees after hours, then they're "on- Call" and there's an expected pay for that availability. Usually not full hourly pay for that, but you should be also paid if you're actually contacted and required to do any work related things.
Any employer that uses the phase "team player" or " we are a family" is a red flag and will be told "Not my circus, not my monkeys" . I only work the hours that I get paid for its the entire purpose of my continued employment.
I definitely wouldn't work if I was independently rich. Dont know a single person that would.
It’s like salaried managers always conveniently forget they’re talking to hourly employees 😂
And you work 480 minutes straight at work? Most f-off for 1-2 hours a day. Answering a text or call for 2 minutes, after normal work hours, once a week is sooooo terrible?
@@Eaglejake In order to take that 2 minute call, I have to be aware of my phone during all of the hours I'm not at work, and should be paid accordingly.
Also, you're the manager, you manage your resources, if you can't find someone to fill in for a shift, hire more people, or pay me to be on call. I am paid to sit in a chair and do X for 8 hours, I will do that to the best of my ability, if I'm not paid to sit there with my phone accessible, then I'm not doing it.
If you want to pay me to be on call that's a different story, I might take you up on it, but I'm not going to work without being paid.
Do you go into a store and expect to pay 80% of the price of an item because your employees only give 80% of the effort they should during the day?
It's simple repression or maybe resentment.
They didn't do the math when it came to hours vs. pay or figured they could somehow put in less hours when they agreed to be salaried. Or worse they believed the interviewer who said 'with bonus and incentives you could make as much as $$$'
My workplace is always trying this with commissions to justify miniscule raises and it just does not work on hourly employees. Our thoughts and minds are not ruled by work and we don't get commission off the clock. If you need me outside posted work hours you failed somewhere.
@@Eaglejake
It is free time that is not paid so even 1 minute is not ok.
In Germany it is prohibited by law to contact employees outside work hours. Simple as that.
I worked for a company where the manager would always call me a couple hours before I had to be in or on my day off with stupid questions that easily could have waited till I was in. It's obnoxious
I agree my after hours are my time the best thing that came up is that you can block the call or choose not to answer ,
The audacity of these companies that really believe this is ok
Ex-freaking-actly.. Worked for a place that was just like this. No phones in the shop floor but they sure got pissy when you didn’t answer at 1 A.M. when they wanted you to come in to work on some B.S. “emergency” job. I had my number changed and when pestered about what the new number was, told them it was 200-5000. No, that’s not my phone number, that’s how much I expect to be added to my check every week for the privilege of them having it.
I always say the same thing. I don't work for free. They can say whatever they want. I just repeat it. Work ends when I leave.
I solved that problem by having 2 cell phones. One for personal and one that I labeled as my work phone. The work phone number was the one listed on all my company employee information forms. However, that phone was also turned off at the end of the workday, on my days off, and on weekends. It was never answered off hours and went straight to voice mail.
People need to keep fighting back. They need you as much as you need them
Absolutely!!! I love Veronica!!!
Hello!!! I WISH I was more like Veronica in the beginning of my job. I was MORE VOCAL, standing up for me, and didn't take as much shit from NOBODY no more in the later part.
Working past my scheduled hours, no OT pay but would get comp time, calls after hours, had to take my work phone with me on vacation, UNTIL I DIDN'T (I complained, WHY TAKE A VACATION IF YOU NEED TO HAVE THE PHONE?!?), LOL, just crazy!!! They loved to play that, "Other duties assigned." card all the time. Cleaning up after OTHER GROWN FOLKS was NOT my job, but we had to do it anyway.😒
I am now HAPPILY RETIRED!!!
"How do we fix this?" I really expected her to say something about being more organized from 9-5 so that time sensitive problems don't come up after 5 in the first place.
"Being a team player" God I hate this term. I worked for a resort where the night auditor would constantly call out .I was trained in this and the first couple of times they asked me to cover, I would. Until they started wanting me to come in later or leave early to make up for the hours instead of paying me the additional nine hours. When I pointed this out the next time I was asked and said no, the manager threw a fit. And when I say fit, I am talking terrible twos worthy fit, because I pointed out I didn't want to stay nine hours past my shift, where I had already come in early to help with checkouts to not get paid the overtime for it. She was screaming so loud the employees at the desk heard her. She had nobody else and when I mentioned she was salary and technically she could do it, she cried stating she couldn't miss her dungeons and dragons game that night. I held my ground and didn't cover. She ended up roping someone else into doing it that wasn't trained and then yelled at them when the reports were messed up the next day and the rooms weren't assigned.
The company I worked for did the same exact thing to me but with a cell phone and a laptop. I told them I did not need the cell phone or laptop at home. They threatened to fire me if I did not take them. So I did. When I got home after working 10 hours I just turned them off. I ended up leaving the company a year later.
I love it ❤when Veronica stand up for herself she is giving her family the same amount of curtesy that she is giving her boss.
@1:38 “how do we fix this” oh that’s easy don’t call me outside of my working hours unless you intend to pay for it. It’s that simple.
Don't want her to steal company time by being on her phone.... but have no problem trying to steal her free time without pay... The nerve of her.. I had a manager I'd send an invoice to anytime she called me after 6. .. I do not work for free. You will be paying me for my time. PeriodT
Mannnnn, I want to be Veronica when I grow up! 😂
Being a Veronica gets you unemployment benefits.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr ok. I could use the break! 🤣
@@carlyofearth I am not the entrepreneurial kind.
Veronica is my hero. I wish I had that much strength and could stand up for myself.
I had middle management ask me to stay behind after quit time. I did that person's job after the Sun went down, and they went home and left me to do their job. The next day I made sure that her gig never arose again.
Way to go Veronica!
I have never heard of a single person, on their death bed, wished they had worked longer hours.
I feel like everything changes when you start seeing things like this as an OFFER which you are free to kindly refuse to take, just like Veronica does. „No thanks.“
Veronika's videos are HILARIOUS!! 😂🤣😅🤣😂🤣😅😂
"As the manager, it is your job to ensure that the team is able to complete the work assigned to them with the resources available and/or to ensure that the team is not assigned so much work that they cannot do so. So the person not being the team player in this scenario would be you. Your or the company's poor resource management is not my problem."
*Them:* Team player, blah blah blah, if that makes sense.
*Me:* "I'm sure it makes sense to someone who is into gaslighting and manipulation. And that's not me."
Sorry to hear people going through this. I've never had this problem.
File a lawsuit if it gets worse 😂
Tell them they’ll here from your lawyer 😂
Here- physical location, and hear- an audible utterance or noise.
@@jackseve pedantic of, relating to, or being a pedant
a pedantic teacher
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: narrowly, stodgily, and often ostentatiously learned
a pedantic insistence that we follow the rules exactly
Far worse, he was pedantic, pernickety, letting nothing inaccurate or of uncertain meaning go by-not an aphrodisiac quality.
-Kingsley Amis
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: UNIMAGINATIVE, DULL
Pedantic song choices don't help any. Only 2 out of 10 songs stray from the most common classic-rock fodder.
since we offering definitions willy-nilly to people who didn't ask for them.
@@deedrole5296*persnickety 😂
She has no grounds for a lawsuit, though. And unless this is a union job, they're free to fire her.
The calmness gets me EVERYTIME😂😂
And we all know where this goes next. And it won’t take long either.
meaning........?
@@1ofakindgirl444 usually, when i've seen people challenge management like this
, they either are now ineligible for promotion and/or one day they are just no longer with the company. Could be a week, could be a few months.
Whatever they need to contact Veronica for needs to be done on company time. THAT is the point.
I love how being a team player doesn’t extend to management ever
She's my spirit animal!!! I love her!
"How do we fix this!"
"Ask your question during working hours."
I've had a couple of jobs like this.
I told them, my cellphone is none of their business. I have it in case someone needs to contact me, and their opinions and policies are not more important than my family.
And I NEVER answered the company's calls outside of work hours, so they started calling me from private numbers. Which I explained does not change that, unless I'm being paid, they are not entitled to my time.
I remember a supervisor telling me "there is no "I" in TEAM. My response went over like a lead balloon: "There's a ME in team" 😂😂😂
My response to that is usually there is a U in a word that starts with C and ends with unt.
@@tonycrayford3893 🤣🤣🤣