EVO:meaner,more engaging,fun factor(Manual),more durable,less likely to run into error,greater legend(rally),street racing king,best 4 cylinder,more space, better off-road capability,Big Wing and vents Golf: Cozier
This was the funniest and most relevant ending to a MCM I've seen in a long time team cannot froth harder for future vids. Every time I see a vid I think when is the magic going to change but holy jesus it just keeps shape shifting into better and more relevant vids each time.
The track section of the video felt like you guys were not normal mightycarmods. Moog seemed moody...off i guess. Marty was a bit robotic. Then the end put a massive smile on my face. THAT is classice McM shenanigans.
With everything equal, the car in front can ALWAYS pull away. Here's why: The driver in front waits until the following car is close (thus they're both going exactly the same speed). The driver in front then randomly goes full throttle anywhere that it would be unexpected. The driver behind reacts, but probably a half-second reaction time. So there's a one-half second gap. As the speed builds, the one-half second gap remains constant measured in TIME (because we're assuming that the two cars are equal). But the half-second gap measured in DISTANCE grows with their increasing speed. So it appears that the car in front is pulling away (well. it is), but the entire explanation can be found in the reaction time. Too many people don't know this.
Still amazed that they cannot seem to make an AWD car that can handle corners better then the evo did back in the 90s-early 00s. You would think with all the modern innovations that someone would be able to. That car is still a BEAST on any short track.
Even when just cruising around on the streets. He's honestly terrible at changing gears. He needs an auto unfortunately - just look at what he did to 2sexy...
That EVO is a work of art. I can't imagine what other cars it can win against as well. I'm assuming it can probably stand against cars with a very big price/age difference and win.
Absolutely hilarious ending you guys, still smashing it! So glad to see Marty's supergramps deep love coming out 😊 (I do love that Evo though - truly fab car and will always have a more legendary status and hold it's value, than that Golf)
The EVO9 AWC system is actually far more sophisticated than the Golf. The EVO7-X have active centre diff and active torque vectoring rear diff with full ECU yaw control, 3 axis accelerometer, wheel speed sensors, steering angle and brake sensor.
A car that drives for you and a car that you have to drive.... 38 years difference in technology, development and refinement. Gotta love the Evo's, even after all these years and no longer made, new cars still want to compare themselves. Flattering really.
A highway pull is not the same comparison. Marty is referring to always keeping the car in the 4k+ rev range. After a pull you put it back into overdrive and cruise again. On a racetrack you're in 2nd/3rd a lot and usually not shifting past 4th unless you're on a really long straight away.
@@connergoldberg the latter just sounds like me delivering pizzas XD also, if there's any sort of medium traffic, i can't really go to third haha, remap doesn't like 3rd at 30mph
You guys gave me hours of car modding entertainment back in the day, nice to see you are still making videos together And EVO everyday for me... And yes we drive like that ALWAYS
evo 9 technology being compared to 2019 tceh? Ones analogue ones digital. considering the tech gap the evo still gives the newer car a fright even with the handicap of a stickshift and a guy who cant do a slingshot launch.
I thought it was faster, personally. The Golf R guy got butthurt and tried to make it sound like he won. Even on the first run, the EVO was right on his tail the entire time. The EVO definitely(surprisingly) won the standup because it was able to create such a big gap in front of the Golf R.
As an big time Evo fan now I feel like this is the disrespected Evo episode. All's well that ends well I guess. Keep up the great work boys love all your content
let's see how's the golf and its dsg gearbox in 10 years time if it's used hard. You want reliable 280kw at the wheels? you buy an ls7. If you wanna play, you gotta pay. Otherwise buy an Honda Fit for going to the shops, and it'll last you a million miles
Marty does keep hinting about supergramps upgrades this past 12 month's there was a ej36 sat in the workshop for a while that got mentioned if I remember it right, hopefully it's some maad internal upgrades with more power!
I really enjoyed watching you two go at it!! I know there have been some haters commenting on your track performances, but watching you two analyze each other's car behavior definitely shows me that you two can drive way better than most of the commenters here! Thanks for the awesome content! Also when Moog was talking about he did not know what Marty was doing behind him that really reminded me of Initial D and how Rye always says you start from behind to see what the other driver can do haha.
@@trayner Yet I'll still be sticking to Dunlop RT Sport Maxx 2's and if I want anything better I'd go to Continental tyres. Bridgestone was more slippery in the wet from my experience.
My dream car is an evo, if I had to choose I would buy an evo, not solely because it's my dream car, but more so because the re-sell value is pretty decent. My first car was a golf though, its hard choice...but still evo
EVO. For the reason it's more enjoyable to drive vs the Golf. A more visceral driving experience. Also, the EVO comes from the time when Japanese cars were made so well.
Honestly watching this makes me want the evo. Manual transmission and it still stayed on his ass just handled so much better and clearly made less crank HP. I like the golf but didn't expect any other result.
@@utubeisCensorred They already just said that the evo is faster lol..? The only way to truly test the two is lap times. Obviously they don't want to crash into each other and neither car could pass with the other in front. The Golf R "lost" the race.
The Evo9 is and will always be my favourite car. It’s just such a beautiful motor, with a great race pedigree. Will forever be my dream car and I hope one day I will afford it. (24 and no where near lol)
AWD system in the Evo is far superior to the Golf R. Golf R uses Haldex which is an on demand system which only engages when there is slip. It doesnt provide drive all the time. The Evo is the faster and more engaging car on the track, no question. Golf R is the better daily.
You guys make some great content. Even stuff I think I may not initially be into turns out to be very enjoyable and I'm glad I'm exposed to different things. Just 2 genuinely great dudes making great content. Thanks for that.
You forgot a very important factor Torque. I'm wondering why you didn't mention torque figures. I think it's because that gap between the 2 cars figures would be vast.
My personal preference would be the evo. The manual may be slower for track driving but at that power level rowing your own gears is just so much more fun to me.
All my honda buddies had hondas and bagged them. I bought a honda and did not follow the trend and had nothing but trouble. So i started beating the poor little shitbox senseless and it fixed itself. Idk what it is man
@@Marc1996L OK lol you do have a point with the dsg tho but that is kinda because it's way newer. That's also a point he's comparing cars with way different times. That's kinda unfair, but you can see the evo holding its own
Excepticus yeah mate I’ve driven an R and the dsg box makes life a whole lot easier, I like them but I still prefer banging up the gears with a foot clutch much more fun
I reckon if the golf was a manual like the evo, then the evo would have won by a very big gap. Gd way to put manual and dsg against each other with same power & tyres tho.
I just commented on this above but you are right, it was interesting. I cannot see the downside of DSG. No matter how good you are, your gear changes will always be slow in a manual.
@@joshuarosen6242 If you're a pleb and don't know how to change gears properly sure. A gated shifter won't be as quick obviously, but you can get pretty close.
@@janemba42 but you do not have tp beat the piss out of a dsg to shift it so incredibly fast. It is designed to do so. However that said honda makes the best manual transmission ever.
janemba42 Even modern torque converter autos are quicker than a manual these days. Comparing a DSG to a manual is about 0.1 seconds vs at least 0.5 seconds and you still run the risk of missing a gear change. The DSG is easy to use, quick and reliable and works well in full auto and manual mode and you cannot damage it with a dodgy shift. I cannot see any benefits to a gated manual.
Enjoyment is the benefit. At the end of the day having a fast car is about fun. You’re not actually getting anywhere faster, there’s no actual practical element to having a faster car in the real world. And even if you do track days you’re not racing anyone, no street car is turning up to the grid at a real racing event you’re just driving for driving’s sake. You buy a manual because it’s more fun, the engagement of shifting for yourself adds to the experience. Arguably there’s a legal benefit as well. Modern cars are fast, and getting faster as speed limits largely stay the same and enforcement gets stricter. Speed is becoming both more accessible and more punishable. The sensation of speed however is free game, so it’s not without reason to prioritize cars that emphasize feeling and sensation over empirical performance. Manuals tend to help with that.
Evo 9 all day. Analogue and proper mechanical engineering. I've had an Evo 9 and they're off the charts. Plus so much better looking. The golf will be worth a fraction of the Evo 9 in years to come also. Golf's are for people who can't drive... really... my wife would love one 😂
i see mcm i click. end of the story. 15 minutes later, wait.. there was never any...? what? was it... the clutch as marty quickly said..? 7:28.. oh no.... LET OTHER PROJECTS BEGIN!! :D epic content as always.
Martin needs more seat time, and yes, keep it above 4k, it's like expecting a honda civic to have low end torque like a Subaru. If you want a torquie evo you'll have to tune it that way.
It's above 4k wherever practical, the power band isn't linear cause it's turbo and it's a tight track that doesn't let you ring out 3rd and 4th gear very often
Shows the pace of progress that a golf with a few good mods can keep up with an absolute weapon from the previous generation, also shows where Subaru and Mitsubishi have missed the boat in recent years
The Evo has been my dream car since I was a kid, so I'd take that no question. But it's not beating a Golf R with the DSG automatic gearbox on the streets. It's always been a track weapon.
I thought the VW was Haldex. That's not an AWD. It has a transverse engine with no centre diff and only a viscous rear coupling. It is a FWD car essentially as far as handling and steering feel goes.
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Best episode to date gents... loveling your work! I do have one question: does Rake still love it?
You boys should come down to The Bend really give those two a run on the straight
Marty: "Who drives above 4k when he isn't on a track?"
Me: Holding 5k rpm on 1st gear just to make it up a steep hill in my 1.3L shitbox.
True AsF
Kombi on freeway
@@wh909 Agreed! My 1,192cc beetle does that
bro actually, whipping a 993cc chevy metro and it gets worked by any incline!
I've got a standard lancer wagon 2.0 above 4K it absolutely pulls!
q:"Who drives like that unless you're on a track?"
a: at least 3.14M subscribers
🤣🤣🤣🤣 true
3.15
I don't know what you're talking about officer. Has your radar gun got its daily calibration certificate 😏
Yes the race we didn't know we've been waiting for
BamZmayBam no we need focus RS VS GOLF R
🤣🤣🤣
Super Gramps vs Motocompo
Race? What race?
It was a borring race lol
I especially loved the water glass that turned into a bucket...
"Who drives like this unless it's on a track ?"
*Me late for work for the third time this month*
Me late for the fourth Time beating my record Time to get to work by two Minutes
And it’s only the 10th...
Stop.
I've been late for work 3 times this week and it's only Wednesday.
me for the third time late for work today
True car UA-cam OG’s 🇦🇺🤜🏻🤛🏻🔥
ayy 420th like
Billy Lynx 🤜🏻🤛🏻 fuck yeah my dude
The end of this episode is the very reason I love this show! You guys make MCM what it is, keep up the excellent work!
"I hate driving cars like this"
Me: cant relate
Yeah that was the weirdest part of the video
Wtf Marty
Well he was dreaming... nah still can't justify it. I just call it an Italian tune-up
@@spearhrower I'm Italian and I keep my 90hp 1.9 turbo diesel always "italian-lly" tuned up. I love it!
I was suprised that RACING ON TRACK he don`t want to drive it like he should
EVO:meaner,more engaging,fun factor(Manual),more durable,less likely to run into error,greater legend(rally),street racing king,best 4 cylinder,more space, better off-road capability,Big Wing and vents
Golf: Cozier
Marty looks like he's pouring heart and soul into driving and enjoying every moment. Moog looks like he's driving Miss Daisy.
"Who drives like that unless you're on a track?" Me: "Miata drivers....."
Hanging between 5-7k is where the fun is though
@@DwNecrid yee my 99 nb is aggressive higher revs, slow af lower.
me in my V10 M6...
And they are good cars to drive around town also.
i thrash my '99
"Have you been $hitting in a bucket?!"
Better then in the fuel canister
@@hyper7ryzen when?
How moog made bog when repairing a dent on the blue turd...
Subaru Life.
:fills glass of water:
/cut/
:dumps bucket of water:
Classic. Still makes me laugh my ass off every time.
Good stuff.
+
I'll admit I didn't see it coming.
@@brian_sipe I nearly peed. I laughed so hard my girl came to check on me.
that was so awesome! lol at the same time i would've been so pissed if i was marty
wasn't a cut, he lent down to pick up the bucket (and looks away presumably to leave the glass in the sink or on the bench)
This was the funniest and most relevant ending to a MCM I've seen in a long time team cannot froth harder for future vids. Every time I see a vid I think when is the magic going to change but holy jesus it just keeps shape shifting into better and more relevant vids each time.
The track section of the video felt like you guys were not normal mightycarmods. Moog seemed moody...off i guess. Marty was a bit robotic. Then the end put a massive smile on my face. THAT is classice McM shenanigans.
Marty: "Who drives above 4k who isn't on a track?"
Me: "aww erm, not me?"
Every rotary owner they don't move below 4k
My integra type R sits at 3500rpm in 5th at 100kph, so uhh... Yeah. Me.
All just to listen that beautiful vtec kicking in!
I change gear at 4500 rpm, but then again, iam driving a Octavia RS Diesel so it's just before rev limit.
I drive an N46 E90 320i and I rarely change gears below the 3,5-4k RPM
So much rubbing on that Evo
plastic guard liners, no biggy
@@mightycarmods Very specific for a dreamt up car
@@mightycarmods wrong offset choice more like it.
You tell 'em boys
@@Mrx1080 stance nation
Evo has a cool factor that more than makes up for any of the down sides.
Never have I heard somebody say Golfs are cool.
@@tren1hdt408 golfs ARE cool, ever heard an r32?
yes cool factor makes up for the
@@tren1hdt408 MK1 Gti, the GODFATHER of the whole Hot Hatch brigade.The MK2 GTI 16V the cool kid on the block.
With everything equal, the car in front can ALWAYS pull away. Here's why: The driver in front waits until the following car is close (thus they're both going exactly the same speed). The driver in front then randomly goes full throttle anywhere that it would be unexpected. The driver behind reacts, but probably a half-second reaction time. So there's a one-half second gap. As the speed builds, the one-half second gap remains constant measured in TIME (because we're assuming that the two cars are equal). But the half-second gap measured in DISTANCE grows with their increasing speed. So it appears that the car in front is pulling away (well. it is), but the entire explanation can be found in the reaction time. Too many people don't know this.
But then there is slipstream
Still amazed that they cannot seem to make an AWD car that can handle corners better then the evo did back in the 90s-early 00s. You would think with all the modern innovations that someone would be able to. That car is still a BEAST on any short track.
Oh man, for a millisecond I was like "Yes, Electric Space Wizzard! Part II" when trying to wake up Marty!
Great vid, as usual!
same
When moog throws the nachos and laughs , that killed me !🤣🤣
how to basic mods XD
Yes!
i love it how he just knows moogs gonna throw it!
#Disrespectednachos 🤣
Should make a meme for every time Marty missed a gear 🤣🤣🤣
Include older videos and you'd have an encyclopedia full of those. He misses a gear in evert race he's done lol
Even when just cruising around on the streets. He's honestly terrible at changing gears. He needs an auto unfortunately - just look at what he did to 2sexy...
Evo 6 speeds are terrible for 3rd gear being hard to shift into.
Rhys Silver nightmare but the corners make up for it for sure
It shoud be a .gif, but it would be a long ass .gif.
That EVO is a work of art. I can't imagine what other cars it can win against as well. I'm assuming it can probably stand against cars with a very big price/age difference and win.
Greatest plot twist I’ve ever seen on UA-cam. You guys got me, I thought he really had an evo for months. Well done!
Ending was classic MCM. Love you guys!
Absolutely hilarious ending you guys, still smashing it! So glad to see Marty's supergramps deep love coming out 😊
(I do love that Evo though - truly fab car and will always have a more legendary status and hold it's value, than that Golf)
The EVO9 AWC system is actually far more sophisticated than the Golf. The EVO7-X have active centre diff and active torque vectoring rear diff with full ECU yaw control, 3 axis accelerometer, wheel speed sensors, steering angle and brake sensor.
A car that drives for you and a car that you have to drive.... 38 years difference in technology, development and refinement. Gotta love the Evo's, even after all these years and no longer made, new cars still want to compare themselves. Flattering really.
Marty: "ahhh I hate driving cars like this"
Me, downshifting to 3rd to do highway pulls: "huh?"
Would like your comment but it's currently at 69 and I can't bring my self to do it
"I hate driving like this"
Me: doing 90mph rolling burnouts "huh?"
A highway pull is not the same comparison. Marty is referring to always keeping the car in the 4k+ rev range. After a pull you put it back into overdrive and cruise again.
On a racetrack you're in 2nd/3rd a lot and usually not shifting past 4th unless you're on a really long straight away.
Me: driving to work at 5k Rpm doing 60-70mph around 20mph corners.......wait WOT!!!!!
@@connergoldberg the latter just sounds like me delivering pizzas XD also, if there's any sort of medium traffic, i can't really go to third haha, remap doesn't like 3rd at 30mph
Marty: I dreamed I owned an Evo.
Moog’s Flashback: I used to own a Honda.
Damn, Moog was going for the kill with that throw! I thought it was going to be a lob when he straight lasered it at the door. lol
You guys gave me hours of car modding entertainment back in the day, nice to see you are still making videos together
And EVO everyday for me...
And yes we drive like that ALWAYS
For all of us in Canada and the USA the Potenza RE003 is the same as the Firestone Indy 500.
Just gonna put it out there
*evo* Vs *sti* Vs *golf r* Vs *focus rs*
Awesome battle.
Question: what STi?
Also only one car is about 10 yrs old.
Type R also. I know it's FWD, but it belongs in that pack.
Golf R would take it lol it's the only automatic in the fleet
@@reversegiraffe3976 all gti tracks records were done with a manual including nurburgring. Being an auto doesn't make it faster at the track.
Supergramps is back😍😍😍
evo 9 technology being compared to 2019 tceh? Ones analogue ones digital. considering the tech gap the evo still gives the newer car a fright even with the handicap of a stickshift and a guy who cant do a slingshot launch.
I thought it was faster, personally. The Golf R guy got butthurt and tried to make it sound like he won. Even on the first run, the EVO was right on his tail the entire time. The EVO definitely(surprisingly) won the standup because it was able to create such a big gap in front of the Golf R.
@@stevenc8717 it's VW 🤐
The golf is 2013 tech.
looks like the evo fanboys got butthurt that it didnt win :(
I saw TOO3VO drive past me on the highway the other day, guessed it was you guys and now I feel validated.
You guys are awesome! I love that ending thinking that having an EVO 9 was all a dream. Great race between the EVO and the Golf R.
As an big time Evo fan now I feel like this is the disrespected Evo episode. All's well that ends well I guess. Keep up the great work boys love all your content
"And this time, the evo is not broken...." *(YET)*
what evo? seen any burnt evo clutches? oh shit... 7:28
Someone was making a clunk.
third gear is dead
let's see how's the golf and its dsg gearbox in 10 years time if it's used hard. You want reliable 280kw at the wheels? you buy an ls7. If you wanna play, you gotta pay. Otherwise buy an Honda Fit for going to the shops, and it'll last you a million miles
WatchMeWrench...have U driven a 10yr old 335i!?? Fast a phooc and reliable as a German speed train. E92 6spd, CSi version...pure German ‘EVi’L’💥🔥💪
The ending tho!Lmaooo 😂 I wonder what’s gonna come up next , sounds like a banger !
Still myself hope for some custom 3.6 forged pistons
@@robm805 it's not the pistons that are an issue it's the rods
Marty does keep hinting about supergramps upgrades this past 12 month's there was a ej36 sat in the workshop for a while that got mentioned if I remember it right, hopefully it's some maad internal upgrades with more power!
Walter Sobchak idk? But all I know is that I HOPE THE NEXT EPISODE US BANGER
LemartesTV maybe the ej36 is for the Yaris ... 😂
I really enjoyed watching you two go at it!! I know there have been some haters commenting on your track performances, but watching you two analyze each other's car behavior definitely shows me that you two can drive way better than most of the commenters here! Thanks for the awesome content! Also when Moog was talking about he did not know what Marty was doing behind him that really reminded me of Initial D and how Rye always says you start from behind to see what the other driver can do haha.
THE ENDING WAS GREAT! Thank you for the smile boys I needed it !
Bro... I waited a long time for an upload from you all. Thanks mates!
Enjoyed!
You could have had one yesterday if you checked mcmtv2
Leon Kernan, thank you for the info!
@@leonkernan still too long lol :) best on YT
that ending was so funny, i love it ! great end to an epic battle series. can’t wait to see what’s next !!!! (hopefully the mini vs daihatsu) 🤞🏽
That was a proper laugh.
Not a fair battle ... You guys must be new on the channel, to say that.
Take a shot everytime they say RE003's.......
Smashed in 15 mins.
Got to get that sponsor money
got over 70000km on last pair
same challenge but you watch every mcm episode from 2013 to now
@@trayner Yet I'll still be sticking to Dunlop RT Sport Maxx 2's and if I want anything better I'd go to Continental tyres. Bridgestone was more slippery in the wet from my experience.
trayner I’m very happy with the RE003s on my MPS. They handle really well, no complaints from me.
My dream car is an evo, if I had to choose I would buy an evo, not solely because it's my dream car, but more so because the re-sell value is pretty decent. My first car was a golf though, its hard choice...but still evo
EVO. For the reason it's more enjoyable to drive vs the Golf. A more visceral driving experience.
Also, the EVO comes from the time when Japanese cars were made so well.
Honestly watching this makes me want the evo.
Manual transmission and it still stayed on his ass just handled so much better and clearly made less crank HP.
I like the golf but didn't expect any other result.
I mean the evo lost the race. So whateves
@@utubeisCensorred They already just said that the evo is faster lol..? The only way to truly test the two is lap times. Obviously they don't want to crash into each other and neither car could pass with the other in front. The Golf R "lost" the race.
What makes you say it made less crank HP? I'd imagine it'd be pretty similar based on the fact that they're making similar WHP and both 4wd.
This went 100% how I expected. If I wanted a track car: Evo. If I wanted a daily? GolfR.
Which I buy? BOTH!
That'd be the ideal yeah.
Which can I afford? none
MCM: only this time the evo is not broken
Me: its a evo something is always broken whether you know it or not
@LAN Evo Because you wrecked it?I mean when its gone,it can't get worse right?
So true 😂 my brother has an Evo 4 Tommy Mac. He laughs and says it costs him £1k every time he drives it. Literally breaks every time 🤦🏻♂️
The golf r isn't 4wd. It's a haldex setup, its 4wd when its required. The evo is 4wd
For any USA viewers, yes, you can get these same exact tires here in the US. We just call them Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 tires here.
Highlight of the video..."well you had an Evo X, but thats not a real Evo" 😂👍
An Evo X would still dominate a Golf R.
Carlos Hipolito Yes really. Stock vs. stock the X is faster in a straight line and especially corners.
@@Kevhoe 😪
'We've got the best from Germany' (points at Golf)
As a German, I have to protest this statement!
Why?
The Golf R is no way the best from Germany! And Moog knows that! It's just Moog's sense of humour. He is very sarcastic.
The best from Germany for me would be the Porsche 911
I completely agree, there are better cars even from VW corporation at the same price point... (Looking at Audi)
@@ivot1761 gt RS all day
The Evo9 is and will always be my favourite car. It’s just such a beautiful motor, with a great race pedigree. Will forever be my dream car and I hope one day I will afford it. (24 and no where near lol)
Brandon Cook you’ll get there my guy
Matt H haha if I don’t get one by 30, I’ve failed myself 😂 my ST will do for now lol
AWD system in the Evo is far superior to the Golf R. Golf R uses Haldex which is an on demand system which only engages when there is slip. It doesnt provide drive all the time. The Evo is the faster and more engaging car on the track, no question. Golf R is the better daily.
You guys make some great content. Even stuff I think I may not initially be into turns out to be very enjoyable and I'm glad I'm exposed to different things. Just 2 genuinely great dudes making great content. Thanks for that.
Matched Cars, but not matched driving skills.
A straight would of helped
Absolutely brilliant ending!!! Love what you’ve done here haha
Two beautiful, excellent cars!
Golf looks mean, but Evo just stays legend 😍😍
You forgot a very important factor Torque. I'm wondering why you didn't mention torque figures. I think it's because that gap between the 2 cars figures would be vast.
My personal preference would be the evo. The manual may be slower for track driving but at that power level rowing your own gears is just so much more fun to me.
"4k rpms, Who drives like that, except on a track?" My V-Tech kicks in at 4K...so I do all the time. #hondalife
Real G K24 VTEC* noob
Real G K24 Vtec hits about as hard as a bunch of flowers.
5k and a half here.
All my honda buddies had hondas and bagged them. I bought a honda and did not follow the trend and had nothing but trouble. So i started beating the poor little shitbox senseless and it fixed itself. Idk what it is man
A Mazda 3 changes into 2nd at about 6400, you yeah, not sure what he was on about. Daily and often, I would have thought...
If only there was a ‘Stig’ professional driver to do laps with each car and see which one is actually faster
Wish they did a straight
Golf will be faster because of it’s 4 wheel drive and dsg box
Excepticus yeah a just realised haha I was half asleep when I typed this, sorry man 😂😂
@@Marc1996L OK lol you do have a point with the dsg tho but that is kinda because it's way newer.
That's also a point he's comparing cars with way different times. That's kinda unfair, but you can see the evo holding its own
Excepticus yeah mate I’ve driven an R and the dsg box makes life a whole lot easier, I like them but I still prefer banging up the gears with a foot clutch much more fun
I reckon if the golf was a manual like the evo, then the evo would have won by a very big gap. Gd way to put manual and dsg against each other with same power & tyres tho.
I just commented on this above but you are right, it was interesting. I cannot see the downside of DSG. No matter how good you are, your gear changes will always be slow in a manual.
@@joshuarosen6242 If you're a pleb and don't know how to change gears properly sure. A gated shifter won't be as quick obviously, but you can get pretty close.
@@janemba42 but you do not have tp beat the piss out of a dsg to shift it so incredibly fast. It is designed to do so. However that said honda makes the best manual transmission ever.
janemba42 Even modern torque converter autos are quicker than a manual these days. Comparing a DSG to a manual is about 0.1 seconds vs at least 0.5 seconds and you still run the risk of missing a gear change. The DSG is easy to use, quick and reliable and works well in full auto and manual mode and you cannot damage it with a dodgy shift. I cannot see any benefits to a gated manual.
Enjoyment is the benefit. At the end of the day having a fast car is about fun. You’re not actually getting anywhere faster, there’s no actual practical element to having a faster car in the real world. And even if you do track days you’re not racing anyone, no street car is turning up to the grid at a real racing event you’re just driving for driving’s sake.
You buy a manual because it’s more fun, the engagement of shifting for yourself adds to the experience.
Arguably there’s a legal benefit as well. Modern cars are fast, and getting faster as speed limits largely stay the same and enforcement gets stricter.
Speed is becoming both more accessible and more punishable. The sensation of speed however is free game, so it’s not without reason to prioritize cars that emphasize feeling and sensation over empirical performance. Manuals tend to help with that.
Evo 9 all day. Analogue and proper mechanical engineering. I've had an Evo 9 and they're off the charts. Plus so much better looking. The golf will be worth a fraction of the Evo 9 in years to come also. Golf's are for people who can't drive... really... my wife would love one 😂
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Kurt Seyffert mad!
Best you tubers. Love watching these videos every time!
i see mcm i click. end of the story.
15 minutes later, wait.. there was never any...? what? was it... the clutch as marty quickly said..? 7:28.. oh no.... LET OTHER PROJECTS BEGIN!! :D
epic content as always.
Couldn't care if the golf lapped the evo, still an EVO.
RRAlex yeah you’re right, that’s why they still make evo’s ohhh wait nevermind.... hahahaha
B Cas Are you trying to say that an EVO should be cast out as a cool car all because they don’t make them anymore??
What a legend the evo is
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@raiden z money pits but they handle amazing and the steering too
Definitely one the best I've seen in a while. #TeamSuperGrams
I want to see so much more of supergramps. He's hands down my favourite mcm car!
My birthday today and damn, the blessed feeling keeps rolling on. Lunch break, open up UA-cam to see this. Big yes!!!
Actually the best racing you've actually done. *Still no real overtakes but so good! Id still go Evo over GTI any day 🤘
Can we have a massive MCM car shoot out?, would be cool to see them all compete in various different things
PeteM hell yeah!!!
They don't own most of the cars that have been on the show anymore
Man that end was absolutely brilliant! 🥲
Damn man i love this EVO 9 with this nice blue color!
The one better geared for the track will win. If they are somewhat even in regards to skill.
The power under the curve...
Martin needs more seat time, and yes, keep it above 4k, it's like expecting a honda civic to have low end torque like a Subaru. If you want a torquie evo you'll have to tune it that way.
It's above 4k wherever practical, the power band isn't linear cause it's turbo and it's a tight track that doesn't let you ring out 3rd and 4th gear very often
Omg, this Evo looks so damn good!!!!
At the end, with those nice cars and that wonderful blue sky... Looks pretty perfect to me
Who else saw the reflection of the green fan in the front wheel and thought that look pretty sweet? Haha
I cringed when Marty sat on the aluminum hood... it just shows how he really cared about the evo.
The fenders are aluminum too
The last bit was so good lmao
Love you guys! Cheers from MInnesota USA!!
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Shows the pace of progress that a golf with a few good mods can keep up with an absolute weapon from the previous generation, also shows where Subaru and Mitsubishi have missed the boat in recent years
Nice work guys. Don't own a car (dont need one) but watch every one of your videos. Great content.
When does they wanna to do another Riced build?
like the legendary TRDLZR with it song
“Ahhh... I got chili in my eye.” Lmao 🤣😂🤣😂
I'm super impressed.
You guys were so relatable and professional at the same time. This was fantastic.
Well done boys!
LOL You guys are hilarious.
The Evo has been my dream car since I was a kid, so I'd take that no question. But it's not beating a Golf R with the DSG automatic gearbox on the streets. It's always been a track weapon.
This is what i love about MCM, they're still just a couple of mates doing dope stuff on the internet
"Up the skidle of my cheetos" -Moog 2019
don't let this distract you from the fact that they haven't made a video on the yaris hilton build yet.
I thought the VW was Haldex. That's not an AWD. It has a transverse engine with no centre diff and only a viscous rear coupling. It is a FWD car essentially as far as handling and steering feel goes.
An legend will always be a legend that’s been proven by the evo
EVO is a heaps better drivers car and more special. No comparison. The Golf is a dime in a dozen.