Possibly the Worst Game Ever Played Ever by Anybody Ever
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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Ben Finegold analyzes a recent game between Ian Nepomniachtchi and Alireza Firouzja during Paris Rapid & Blitz. Clipped from Ben's Monday Euro Friendly Stream [06-21-2021]
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i can listen to Finegolds commentary on another tab, not knowing exactly where the pieces are. The entertainment is still there
lmao I could listen to it lebowski style
@@sergiobarros_ that is such a good reference, now I understand why he listened to bowling
@@sergiobarros_ I've often wanted to record an over the board game and listen to it like in that movie
I can put it on a tab with the sound off and I still get a smile just knowing it's him.
Alireza and Also Nepo are Great players they can Also make big blounders Caruana Also they are famous for blounders
This is the most scorched earth, nuked from orbit, takedown of a chess game commentary I’ve ever seen. Absolutely savage.
inexplicably he made the best move
But it's fair. Seriously, if you see a game like that on ELO guesser, I doubt you'd guess anything above 1500. Probably less. Opening with a free knight, then hanging a rook for no good reason, and then a bishop for nothing. What the hell is going on here?
Man that looks like one of my games. Cheers to Nepo and Alireza for making me feel a lot better
I wish my blitz games were half as good as this
Someone should hack this into Gothamchess's computer for his next guess the elo episode
LMAO I think Levy is smart enough to remember this game
I would laugh my ass off holy shit
Oh my god that would be so good
In the latest Guess the Elo he had a game where he guessed the players were ~1200. They were both over 2000. Oof.
The craziest part of this is Nepo's chesscom account is 3151 and Alireza's is 3141. If played online, it would be one of the highest rated games ever played with the average rating of 3146 lol Someone should definitely do this
I paid for the entire evaluation bar, im gonna use the entire evaluation bar
So magnus will retain his title again, is what I got out of this
yeah, unless he gets crazy
They are going to be playing classical chess, not blitz or rapid. So this does not tell you much.
@@sesanti I get that but rapid/blitz is a reflection of your intuition IMO.
I argue magnus’ intuition is simply more consistent and that in the long run will be the determining factor.
Well, this is a blitz game, so we don't really know.
I mean, that was decided the moment Candidates was over.
"The more blunders the more exciting it is"
Heartwarming to hear that Ben Finegold thinks my games are really exciting.
"the Worst Game Ever Played Ever by Anybody Ever" ?
There are so many contenders for that title.
But not in the 2700s
I literally watched a game with 23 blunders, where white was at one point +23 and ended up throwing it away, endgame was king + 2 rooks + 2 pawns (white) vs king + 2 rooks + 5 pawns (black). How'd the game end? Black took white's two pawns, white blunders BOTH rooks and has just a king left, black promotes TWO QUEENS and then accidentally stalemates the game after trying 4 moves to checkmate with TWO QUEENS AND TWO ROOKS.
I swear to god, I wanted to claw my fuggen eyes out.
@@danlorett2184 -- Sounds familiar: In one game, my opponent had only his king, but I had my king, a rook, and a freshly promoted queen. I was low on time so I rushed and .. stalemate. Argh. That's why some people say "Never give up" -- even in a completely lost position, your opponent may blunder or run out of time.
I just saw this on eloguessr and I figured these two were around 950.
Yeah, this looks like a game I would make fun of 2 1700s for playing not a game between the best prodigy of the current century and the world championship challenger
Wow, that’s an incredibly weak game for GM standards. Its hard to believe this, knowing how strong these guys are. They both just blundered multiple pieces, insane… Maybe they were trolling or something.
drunk?
That is the classic autistic reaction to almost everything....
"Maybe they were trolling"...
Blitz
wow this is suspiciously similar to my games
sus
The Soviet chess teams were the scariest thing in the world until the U.S. released Bobby Fischer from his embryonic chamber. The Soviets were like wow rude that's not fair you literally bioengineered a chess super soldier, that's not in the spirit of the game. And Fischer was like screw you guys, you don't know how hard it is to be born this way, with no purpose in life but to crush the Soviets. Eventually a software virus caused Fischer to target Jewish people, so he was decommissioned. Today there are many different bioengineered super soldiers around the world such as Yao Ming, Vassily Komatsky and Tosin Abasi. We all have to learn to live with the inexorable march of technology.
your storytelling is amazing
"He's not me, he's him."
Never change, Ben.
Kasparov agrees with Ben, there is a recap somewhere on youtube. Make this mistake 10 to 100 years ago & you are down the bin
I'm looking for this, where'd you find that??
Kasparov is insane. He's probably one of the idiots who would argue that rating inflation is real without any basic mathematical understanding of how currency or inflation works
Kasparov is honestly hard to watch for me, you can just feel the ego
@@sahirde classic Russian attitude
Where can I watch thi
9:05 i have a possible explanation. All the players have been so used to play on the internet that 2D vision is now at their pick whereas at the same time their 3D vision of the board decreased for not playing at all IRL. Don’t you agree Ben ?
I agree to a point where I've played online for a while, then it takes me a few games to be comfortable otb, but at their level it's no excuse. they dont go in blind, they prepare. this seems like 2 players have a bad game vs eachother.
@Sly Lataupe right perhaps being stuck in 2D vision otb it's like playing Fog of War chess but they can only see their own back rank?
@@tuddgrimley8532 maybe lol
Hikaru and magnus dont have this problem
@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 They probably visualise their choice of board regardless of what is on front of them all they have to do is remember the pgn as it happens.
I agree with Ben, I've seen many supergm games and that one was literally the worst...
I had to click when I read the title just to see if Ben found one of my games to analyze.
Maybe their board vision has taken a hit over the last year.
I agree with you, maybe using the computer too much made some damage on their board vision
Ian won the candidates lol
@@Ben-xj2rf yeah, but in those games they had a couple hours on clock. On blitz games it's way different and they haven't much time to calculate, that's why the board vision is important to avoid blunders
Firouzja was really playing poorly in this tournament. Nepo is a strong player but I guess he put a bunch of spaghetti in his pockets and it all started falling out in the middle of this blitz game.
Ben forgot Lev Polugaevsky of Soviets that never had a chance of making the Olympiad but would be board 1 for almost any other country.
I'm confused. Polugaevsky represented the USSR olympiad time seven times
This is something I do not understand about gm games. In the 17 wc game between Fischer and Spassky I run a game report and there are 40 key moments. Loads of mistakes and blunders but they get 97% 98% ratings.
Yes for classical games, I'm sure it was the same for Carlsen vs Fabiano in their matchup. This is Blitz with a lot of these moves played being down to seconds. And after playing so much online chess it can be tricky to get back to over the board fast format as moving pieces with a mouse is a lot faster. Low quality game regardless, of course.
Then one day when Fermi was playing tennis, he realised where the other chess elite grandmasters were going wrong.
Are you refering to the physicist Enrico Fermi?
i guess magnus is going to have to lose his title to dementia
Pragguuuuuuuu
I miss daily dose of Ben Finegold :(
Interpol arrested him
Ben is hilarious, needs to be a top chess UA-camr asap.
Already is
If he plays more than he is storytelling then he will be!
@@TheHeavyassaulter I think most of us are here for the stories not game.
Dude kinda invented top chess youtuber
almost as bad as my games.
Ben this was great. We need more of this of you calling people out regardless of their status. Spare no room and spare no one regardless of their title. Fair game. Everyone gets called out. Beast mode.
you should make the lichess engine analyze the game, that engine is ruthless
This is why Nez said "he who analyzes blitz is stupid." It's just a race to the bottom. Let them race!
It's 3/0 - it's not 30 second chess. You can still play and not walk into this...
@@benjaminsmythe8967 It's 5+2 tho
@@GoldenPierre25 Even MORE reason not to play so poorly.
Wait this was 5+2? Honestly yeah, not really a fair game to analyze. I thought they were talking about old school blitz as in 30+2 or 45+0 etc
@@fink7968 there's no reason a game of chess should last longer than 2 minutes
I think reason why they're playing below par is that they got used to playing online. OTB habits aren't coming back to them ( rapid and blitz). It will come soon.
Btw. Soviet Team in Chess Olympiad 1960 was Tal, Botvinnik, Keres, Korchnoi, Smyslov, Petrosian, two (in that time future) world champions as a reserve, Botvinnik was the best 2nd board of the tournament. In Chess Olympiad 1962 Tal was barely 2nd reserve. That's how Soviets were dominant.
gothamchess and hikaru should review these games on a guess the elo video without knowing it was nepo and firouzja
Levy would probably recognise it considering how recent and memorable it is
People are better at chess now than they were a hundred years ago btw.
still theory
Morphy > you and me, so you are mistaken.
@@MV-ch3mm logical
Only due to theory and memorization. Morphy would eat Magnus if Magnus didn't have modern theory. And if Morphy had modern theory, Morphy would actually innovate.
"better at Chess" is a meaningless sentence
better at what? calculation, theory, tactics, positional understanding, time management, strategy? All of them combined?
no, today's GMs are not necessarily better than GMs of the past at all of these things combined
Sees title,
Oh my god, he saw my game
ben finegold looks and acts like he was born in the slug dimension
I enjoyed Ben's analysis but it's a bit unfair to think Firouzja or Nepo cheat in online games only because they played a single terrible game in blitz. Both of them have played tons of superb games (close to engine moves) in person.
Nobody is cheating
Korchnoi was so good that when he played for Switzerland he won gold at the olympiad. When he played for Soviet Union he couldn't make the team many years.(I dont know that for a fact as I cant find team details)
Soviets won the 10-21st Olympiads with the most medals. Then the 24-29th. Then Russia won 30-35th.
Just think 1950-1970 any of
Botvinnik, Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, Spassky.
Bronstein, Korchnoi, Keres, Geller, Kotov.
Stein (I hadnt even heard of him till Ben said his name) was in candidates tournaments and won soviet titles when Spassky was playing in them.
3:30 BEST part lmaoo
I imagine if India put up a team now, it would be like the Soviet team. My prediction is, Indian world champion within a decade.
Gukesh is already the challenger and arjun is world number 5
“The more blunders the more exciting it is” and that’s why Pogchamps was so exciting
My games are the most exciting thing ever
Unironically agree. Watching chess newbies that you know from somewhere else play is a very different kind of entertainment from sweaty 2700 tournaments
When you don’t give God a gun
They're just not used to playing OTB cuz most of their games are online these days.
C'mon. You can't use a blitz game as evidence that today's players aren't as good as players from the past.
This game is horrific even for a blitz game
Me seeing the title of this video, me imagining myself at the end of the video, "frankly, terrible"
i feel like otb blitz is harder than online blitz to be fair
I think they were using ALPHA ZERO....
At least Firouzja lost in the opening faster than i usually do
So bad even I can see the mistakes.
3:48 was the idea queen c5 check?
I came to see my game reviewed
Saul's brother is Rev Green in Clue
Tim Curry is the star
Surprisingly funny movie
most of these moves were less than 5 seconds on the clock lol, without context lol
is this true or how has his last 2 years of results been?
GM Ben Roast Finegold
Short time control games really does make for imperfect chess.
On a side note I have seen other games where Faruja walks the knife edge where he could hang mate any minute in the opening. Maybe his prep is about drawing his oponents towards the weakness the trapping them when they attack imperfectly.
Wow, this isn't actually a clickbait title..
Maybe the reason ELO is higher now, is because you are able to play against way more rated opponents.
No, Elo ratings just drift upwards over time. Elo ratings are only valid for comparing players in the same timeframe. If, today, A is rated 2700 and B is rated 2710, you can conclude that B is a slightly better player. But if A was rated 2700 in 1980 and B is rated 2710 today, you really can't conclude anything.
Wow horrible horrible chess😭😭all hope I had in Nepo beating Carlsen is down the drain
Well just remember Nepo won the Candidates just a couple months ago. And he obviously played well to do that
Why would you hope for that? May the better player win.
why didn't you post the PGN in the description?
Blundering the rook instead of mate in 2, this really looks like one of these 100 rated baka mitai videos
TWIST: it was max deutsch wearing a mask of nepos face
Bring back the great tactics of chess! Morphy/Fischer style
Blitz Chess is a mistake. we need FischerRandom tournaments, not blitz
+1
watching this video after the great players of the present video about Alireza gives whiplash
Nope, one of my games is. I'm terrible
Were you or your opponent over 2700?
@@oisinoc8533 maybe combined?
@@colincunningham5820 mayyyyyyyybe
@@oisinoc8533 if you multiply the elo it gets there
Video Title:
Me: Yeah that's my kind of games all right
Features Two Super GM's 😶
they aint used to the wood no more
This Game will give me Nightmares. 😭
Uri Geller was a very strong and powerful mentalist/psychic/telekinetic dude. It's just that during that fateful Tonight Show visit, the "vibes" were "bad," and he wasn't feeling "strong." But his powers are amazing, far beyond science.
In my land we call those scammers
@@Amoeba_Podre That's what I mean. That appearance did not tank Geller's obvious nonsense scam career. Like I said, he's strong and powerful, beyond science, and apparently beyond common sense.
Chat with a good Uri Gellar joke? Suspicious!
I must be like dumb but how is queen c5 not a mate in 2 in 3:36? I don't see any escape squares for the king and only queen can block, and after taking it would be mate?
Nvm figured it out
I thought that too, but then I realized black can also block with Qc6
supergm playing like a fellow 900
very cool
but what was the time control?
They’re not used to using real pieces maybe?
every move has a color.."
I’m shocked too, this is so bad
I'm really happy that this guy didn't watched absolute nightmares that I play 🤣🤣
indian chess olympiad in 2030 will be real scary too .it could be one of the greatest modern day chess olympiad teams. pragg,nihal sarin,gukesh,arjun erigaisi,raunak sadhwani and leon mendonca
Oh, Blitz, so not Chess. 😆
Magnus would have punished all of this and made quick work of sloppy play. That's what was missing from this. Real competition that does not waver, that being Magnus.
If it was bullet maybe was still a nice game 😂😂😂
I guess everyone who has watched Alireza`s matches will easily disagree with you! Forgetting about the opening where it seems he did not know this line, rest of the mistakes all happened under huge time pressure for both opponents. Why shouldn`t we watch other matches where he brilliantly beat Vlad, Levon, and others in Paris. Let`s also think how ended up 2nd in the Norway Chess and how he made such a fantastic result in the Wijk ann Zee. These matches were not online man ! So let`s don`t even think of cheating about someone who has constantly proved himself as aa star.
Anybody else getting a Dr. Finkelstein and Sally vibe?
The truth hurts
Nah nah nah, you guys don't get it. Nepo lost because Firouzja pressed the clock too hard
So you can take any chess engine of your liking, screen capture and place as permanent window over the top of your current window. Since you may be a good player, you play at your best, when in a questionable or as someone says dubious position you reference the the engine. You however try and not look at the engine because you think you still have a sliver of pride, because you are in fact a decent player. When playing the game is not fun anymore, winning is all you have, and you desperately look at the engine just for the momentary sensation that you are not as bad as your dropping confidence makes you feel. Who knows, I am probably way off. Epic props Ben and Karen for the Welcome back, Kotter reference!
Great video go Ben make some more quick analysis
3:39 CALLED IT LMAO
Please do So v. Nepo! Finest game I've seen in a while
He won't do So.
@@michalrehacek3462 Ha!
This game looks suspicious
Alireza did actually won over magnus couple days after thia game,
6:14 someone do something with this
Let’s see ben against alireza lol
If Alireza plays like this, hanging a knight on move 11, Ben would crush him. Ben's not the best player around, but he is very technically sound and he is consistent. Give Ben that position against Firouzja, and I'd bet the house that Ben wins at least 9 times out of 10.
Ben's specialty is not blundering. He doesn't necessarily play the best move, but he makes fewer mistakes than the other guy.
Fun video, thanks
AlIrEza NeXt WoRlD ChAmPiOn
I felt the same way watching these high rated players for a while... I think the best thing that our high rated players of today have done is popularized opening theory to the masses. I thank them for that but I am also not saying that I am prepared to beat their ass either lol
I tried to guess the elo of the players and I failed but hikaru literally doesn't care
Shallow and pedantic.
Both paid to loose?
i thought this was H3H3
Ben jelly of Alireza lol