You Won't Believe What The Zion Society Cult Made Its Members Do
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Detective Mike King (@ProfilingEvil) takes us into the Zion Society Cult that he helped to uncover and expose. It revolved around the cult leader Arvin Shreeve, who made members do unspeakable things. Mike was featured on Dr. Phil, shedding tears after being reunited with the surviving memebers of the cult. He has worked on programs for the FBI and helped police departments across the US in dealing with true crime cases. In his decades on the job, he has uncovered some truly harrowing crimes, and today he’s talking about how he helped expose and break up the Zion Society Cult.
#cults #survivors #zionsociety
Did you know about the Zion Society cult? Madness. Thoughts below!
They are new to me. Looking forward to this!!!
I love me some cult tea! 😳
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I have (only because I’ve spent years diving into cults… oh and I used to live in Utah & live in Texas now 😜 but I’m originally from western New York near Palmyra, NY where LDS was born 🥳). There are a few podcasts about it.
Really enjoyed this interview. Had not heard of this one. Would love to hear an episode of the Lev Tahor cult which was another I hadn't heard about until recently. When he mentioned generational cults made me think of it. I believe there's a young guy on YT who escaped, literally, as its surrounded with guards and prison like deterrence and makes some videos and short films and stuff. He'd probably do an interview is my guess.
I finally got to see this in its entirety. I can only say it is total madness.
Patricia Krenwinkel, the Charles Manson follower that participated in killing Sharon Tate and others had her parole blocked by California's governor. So she's not going anywhere.
Mike King is awesome ! Love Profiling Evil
Poor believer of LDS cult. He's describing exactly what Joseph Smith did and what the "church" continues to do this day. Watch MORMON STORIES, folks. Sigh...
The main problem with Polygamy is, you never see a woman marring several men. It's always a man wanting to marry many women...
In Tibet there are
How successful is any breeder with 4 guys and 1 women?
The main problem with polygamy is that it’s wrong.
No we do. But it's more like a man forcing his wife into sex work and the wife finally telling the truth after 5 years
There are very few societies that do, or at least did. The modern world may have influenced them by now. Btw, a woman marrying more than one man is called polyandry.
I'm so sick of these psychopaths running around destroying people. UGG.
I'm glad they got the chance to tell him how they dropped the ball. And I'm even more glad that he listened and did something about it.
Great interview Andrew! Warms my heart to see Mikes compassion for people.
He's amazing. I'm so happy that he was able to do so much for these people 🤍.
A Mormon busting cults? That's rich. Joseph Smith was as much of a con-man as any other. Well, I guess someone halfway down the rabbit hole busting someone three-quarters of the way down is a sort of progress.
I was watching this shocked he’s still LdS but understandable as I’ve been interested in cults my whole life only to realize 38 years later I was raised in one
The problem I have w it is that the writings of Joseph Smith completely conflict with the Bible. The Bible says that by grace we've been saved if we believe. Mormonism seems to be about working their way to heaven.
Bible says nothing shall be added or taken away from it. These added scriptures aren't ok.
As far as polygamy, it definitely is not healthy as far as relationships.
I went to university here in Britain, won’t say where, and a good friend there belonged to a group that seemed like a cult for sure, Called the Plymouth brethren. I only saw his family once when they came to collect him once and I just recall his mom walked out behind his dad, along with so many siblings that I needed to count. Turns out he was eldest of 9
I've heard of the Plymouth Brethren--another destructive cult.
Amazing how do you travel with 13 people? They must have had a mini bus. How far did they have to travel to fetch him ? Many cults don’t send they older children to University,rather have them work for the cult.
Actually the Plymouth Brethren are part of a larger religious group simply called the Brethren. Not a cult but quite strick in some ways - mainly about not being in church, they do home church. There is at least one group of schools here in Hong Kong that were started by the Brethren. They are strict about some things, but certainly not a cult.
🤣😂 I used to belong to that church! No, it’s not a cult, it’s a denomination. They’re strict, but definitely not a cult.
@@angelirohival6270 Good, I'm glad! The less cults the better!
I just have a hard time listening to someone of the LDS church talk about any other religion as a cult.....
Dude speaks out against child abusing cults but is a proud member of one... HA!
Really good as usual. He was super interesting and engaging.
Thanks !
I don't think God promoted polygamy in the Old Testament Bible where it was obviously practiced rather God was somewhat quiet about it. If God was in favor of polygamy, why not give Adam a few other women when he created Eve for him?
It is not supported by Christianity. It is acknowledged in the text because it was a reality at the time. So of course it is mentioned in the stories.
You should ask him why so many extreme cults come out of the Mormon religion. There are literally hundreds of extreme offshoots off it.
Dig into Mormon history and highest belief... one hell of a batshit rabbit hole.
No disrespect at all to Mike, I have a lot of respect for this man! I was raised LDS 38 years & only this last month realized LDS is the same as the rest sadly! Maybe even worse in some cases!
@@vibratinggoddess1111intriguing
Wow, a Morman who doesn't recognize he's in a cult. Usually, when you investigate another cult a cultist wakes up. He really needs to watch some Jonathan Streeter videos.
Lori and Chad were are LDS aren't they?
I love Mike and also watch his channel! Great interview! Buttttt….
I didn’t know he was Mormon….how weird is it to interview a guy about a cult that is in a cult tho?
He investigated a cult yet is a LDS church member, which many people would equate with being in a cult.
It meets the criteria of a cult. There is a channel on here called Exmo Lex by an ex Mormon and she talks about how it is a cult.
False prophet "finds" ancient egyptian writing in America, reads it with a magic stone. Magic temple underwear, some chosen men get to be god and father of their own new planet with a harem where a new humanity is born. Oh and let's not forget the Dannite assassins from years back. Yup, it qualifies. 😆
An excellent interview..what happened to the lady who reported this?
The irony that a Mormon man identifies other cults but doesn’t see that he is in one himself. 🧐
My thoughts exactly...undermines Andrew's purpose
It's incredibly difficult to see what is in our mental/emotional blind spots. Faith is one. Things that challenge our egos and cause defense mechanisms to take over, of which there tend to be many. It's good he's on his journey, which he's working through by studying all faiths. Hopefully he (and all people) can find the real truths in life before it's too late. Plus, this seems to have fallen into his lap as an officer, I don't know that this is something that he chose to go into, so I think he's going in a good direction.
Whatever I agree they're odd but I've known awesome Mormons it's a thing they appear squeeky clean. But I had a trainer I knew well enough she criticized their Faith but she was so kind. She was interested in True Crime preinternet. I have been into it since Helter Skelter. She wasn't allowed to read it by religion..So she'd ask ime what I was reading and I'd tell her in an great in detail. She loved it. Lol. She was either pregnant or had a newborn. 5 I'm 4 years yuck
Right! Man in a cult formed by Joseph Smith who married and had sex with 14 year old girls, thinks that is a legitimate religion.
If we seek perfection in people then we are as bad as the zealous religious folk. People have faith and magical beliefs. We all do to different extents. And blind spots. For some people it’s religion. I don’t like religion. But I do very much like Mike. And by exposing a sex cult and saving the lives of those children, he did more good in the world than I’ve ever done. I’m an atheist but I can still love people caught up in other beliefs and cults.
Man ! We have some fu..ed up people out there . 🤛🇦🇺Fight the good fight guys .
What a great interview!!! But it's incomprehensible that the state would allow those parents to retain custody of those poor children!!! I'm so glad they got what they were supposed to get, even if it was years late!!! Mike is such a great guy!!! Now I have to go over to his channel and watch the episode about the FLDS!! I'm so glad you guys touched that particularly evil example of polygamy!!! Thank you!!!
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Hey Mike! So happy to see two of my favourite UA-camrs together! I’ve learnt a lot from Mike and I’m also signed up for his Profiling Academy classes. He’s very brave and kind. As are you Andrew, I watched your Exorcist video. Mikes video with Jessop is worth watching. Mike is where I got my last bit of info on the FLDS with Jeffs that I put in my comment. More cult videos for you two please? Thank you, that made my day! ❤️
We will for sure !!
Ya it is KINDA WEIRD to see those TWO. ~ LOVE IT
'Legitimate charges of CSA'... as if there aren't against J Smith and B Young
What a lovely guest Andrew. You are ALWAYS my number one though! Hands down!!! But this man has a nature similar to yours. Empathetic. Soft. Kind. Humble. Friendly. I have subscribed to his channel.
Wow, thank you!
Your channel is so good
Thank you!!
"hourly waged jobs?" that is like 55% of American workers...
Having known Charlie and escaping him, having done Acid with LRH . ( Who was tripper than the Acid we we're taking, and starting life out in a religious cult... nothing a cult does surprises me. Excellent interview Andrew and another good guest.
Namaste Andrew, it's been a long strange trip. Yet I knew early on that I was a survivor ✌️
Some say the LDS religion is a cult. 💁♀️ Some say Bethel is a cult. 🤷♀️
They are.
The ladder day saint is a big cult as well 😂💀
He's a credit to society what a wonderful man. I know LDS are called a cult. But I've known 5 Mormons and they were all lovely people. And 1 was my trainer for several years so I got to know her well lovely Beth a wonderful woman. Lol did have 4 kids in 4 years though. But I read humans like I read books. She is lovely!
Hi Margy. I’m a big fan of Mike Kings. He has had an exemplary career helping people through law enforcement. I’m trying to understand why being a regular Mormon (without the polygamy) is deemed a cult? I thought I’d ask you because you have a balanced comment and know mormons as well. I’m just not sure how it’s different from being of another faith? 🤔
As an ex-Mormon, this guy is triggering based on his various untruths. D & C 132 remains scripture and is an eternal principle. If a couple divorces, he can marry and remain sealed to his ex wife and remarry, giving him 2 eternal wives. Hearing what appears to be a good man, lying (unless he’s ignorant about actual church history) made this too much for me. Joseph Smith did precisely what he claims other men in The Zion Society did. In fact, without Joseph Smith, there wouldn’t have been a Zion Society as one spawned the other.
Without Joseph Smith, there wouldn’t be the FLDS. The AUB, or even the incestuous Kingston’s “The Order” which Utah largely ignores because $$$$.
Being in a cult does not make it where a person cannot be a wonderful person!! Studies have shown that a lot of people who join cults are very intelligent and idealistic. And I agree--Mormonism is a cult.
@@atlramona I've never been Mormon, but I've studied their history and Mike's explanations of it are inaccurate, but I'm pretty sure, that since he trusts his church, he is repeating with complete confidence what he has been taught at his church. If you believe your church 100%, why would you go outside of your church to learn the truth of it.
@@lesliewells1062 I’m fine with his beliefs as I have family that is still Mormon. As for me, knowing what I know, I can’t support. Joseph smith “married” children. He also married the wives of other men, including those he sent on missions so as to steal them. You can’t point a finger at another without 3 fingers pointing back. The fraud that the church is, made me atheist as I can’t look at any other religion without the same investigation.
It's so beautiful that he answered the call, after all of those years, to enrich the lives of the people who suffered abuse as children.
What a wonderful man...an inspiration to us all. Thanks for all you do to bring these matters to our attention.Love your channel.
OMG! This is so terrible! I can see why you are an atheist!
Not God doing this. It's people. And this type of abuse pretty much ruins a person's vision of a Loving Father. They get very warped by cult leaders like this.
Fascinating interview, great guy. ( Tea and crumpets tonight )Thanks Andrew. 💗
I know what a kind person
Love crumpets!
Hi! Thanks for doing this show about this cult! Turns out I have Mike's book on my kindle and I haven't read it. S now I will. I feel like I have to say something about polygamy. All over the world, in places where polygamy is legal and places where it is illegal, when polygamy is practiced, the status of women and children sinks down to about that of a cow, a possession. Young girls are forced into marriages they don't want to be in, often to much older men. And when you are raised and indoctrinated into the belief that this is your destiny, you do not have choice. If a man has 40 or 50 kids, is he really going to be a good dad? And for a woman to share her bed with her husband once a week or once a month, knowing that on the other nights he is with his other wives? . I've read a lot of books on this subject, it's evil, and very destructive for women and children. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think you are not thinking about those situations, but something like if a guy has a girlfriend and her best friend is over all the time and the three of them deco they want to all be married or a lady is with her boyfriend and his best friend was all always around and the three of them decided to all be married. I don't agree with that, but it's a totally different situation than these systems that exploit women and children. Another thing is that sexual abuse is rampant in these huge families where there is too many children to look after and protect them properly. As you can see, I feel very strongly about polygamy. I would love to hear your thoughts in response to this comment!! Thanks!!
Thank you Andrew!!
I’m so glad they finally got the kind of informed counseling they deserved, even if late. Thank you for this.
He seems like a decent guy but like most Mormons he's got no idea of the real history
But many kudos to him for leading the charge on this cult
WTFs the deal with that? I'm not very knowledgeable about Mormonism, but just watched a fairly fascinating 3 part interview series with Heather Daybell, Chad's sil. She explains researching and finding out the true history, and it sounds like much of it is available in actual church doctrine. (Which I assume they're "allowed" to read.)
But she describes being shocked to learn the real origin story, that it is completely different from what she believed her entire life, and that she instantly knew the whole thing is BS and she'll never believe any of it again.
I wonder what those details are, besides learning that Joseph Smith was a polygamist? But even moreso, WHY most Mormons don't understand the beginnings of their supposed religion? Can you shed a little light for me please?
@@rnrpeg1 i think it's to do with cult mind control
No Scientology member can seriously believe the Xenu stuff unless they're conditioned, to take another example.
I'm not as well versed as people like David Fitzgerald, if you can find his stuff on UA-cam it's worth a watch - and very entertaining
@@rnrpeg1 Religions like Mormonism make sure their people would have to work very hard and do some things they are told not to do to find out the truth about the early days of their religion. Most groups like that, including cults have lots of secrets and are very invested in their members not learning those secrets!
Mike King definitely seems like a really good guy but let's be honest, at the end of the day ALL religions are a cult. The difference is some are much, much worse than others.
@@shadelings I don't agree that all religions are cults. And even cults exist on a continuum of how much they hurt their members. Cult expert Steve Hassan developed the BITE model. If a group controls its members Behavior, the Information they can access, their Thoughts and their Emotions--it is a cult. I was in a cult for 28 years and I've also been in healthy churches and I'm a Christian. I know first hand that all religions are not cults.
Grandiose narcissists I think, not schzophrenics
Question did he investigate the Kingston's? They still practice polygamy they are not' again not' being punished by the law. How about the brotherhood? Have you done anything about them?
Polygamy was put on the ballet less than a decade ago in Utah and they're thinking of putting it on again. The problem religion ruling a specific area is the product that you see today in Utah.. Yes the mormon mecca. And yes children are still being sold off into marriage by the hierarchy's of their individual religious cults which includes the mormons. Hes obviously skating his own culpability into that of child sexual predators within the mormon faith. To person rule.
He keeps noting societal demands. Which societal demands? that of the United States law? Or that of the mormon law that he is obliged by his own religion to take above Caesar's law (aka any other governmental laws)?
I'm not attacking him I want clarification for his judgment calls. If you use the bias Of his own religion to dictate how all other religions should relate to his societal rules against the rules of mormonism then there is a problem. I'm not saying it's a cop didn't do the right thing. What I'm saying is would he in turn Have a judgment call on his own religion And by doing so he acknowledges that he can be punished by his Religion.
The problem here is he justified his judgment calls based on his religion. Cause he should not have brought in religion into this construct of a case Unless he was going to utilize it in analysis of said case.
I'm not picking on moronism the same thing is held by Jw's and others. And in all cases is antithetical to American Judicpudence (sp?)
Add a note he stated a well known University Weber state university. Sorry not well known. And to the professor's I spoke into they have never heard of such a University.
I am loving Mike King, he is like a breath of fresh air. Another goodun Andrew
I saw Mike speak at CrimeCon in Nashville in 2024 and I'm super into cults but had never heard of this one. He was so charismatic and interesting to listen to. Mad respect for him for doing what he did in the massive fast timeline he worked in. Also respect that he listened to the victim that came in and said something is not right and not just dismissing her.
If more Law Enforcement officers could be as fantastic as this man
When being read your rights - Everything you say can and will be used against you and Nothing you say can be used in your own defense : The Sam words that can be used to convict you are considered hearsay if you try to use them in your own defense . Think about that for a minute . That alone says …. Keep your mouth shut tight and don’t ever assume because you’re innocent that you won’t end up imprisoned due to an overzealous cop or. Ops who twist your words .
Don't talk to a cop under most any circumstance!! The mantra if many a lawyer....
it's funny that this guy being LDS doesn't see the parallel between cult leaders and Joseph Smith.
Sabrina Broadbent vs FLDS Warren Jeffs🚩
So I don’t want to comment on the sex part but I always wonder what you asked too Andrew “ do these cult leaders genuinely believe their bull “
I remember mike and his pile on with Barry morphew.
Talk about getting it wrong and then doubling down. The guy is a clown.
Love your show but can’t watch this bloke
My problem with polygamy is that it is sexist. If women can also have more than one husband I am all on board with it. As long as both genders are equal I have no moral objection to it. Also of course all marriages must be with individuals over the age of 18 and fully consensual. Unfortunately, in most religions and countries it is very sexist. Men can have as many wives as they like but women are essentially property. Women cannot date or marry other men and that is not fair.
You do multiple videos on cults, but while you have this guy here you can't question this cult member in an interview about the cult he is in (LDS) and their record of defending child abuse perpetrators? I understand not wanting to upset your guests off the bat but surely at some point you could have raised the issue and he could have set the record straight and shared his stance on the whole thing. How can you just interview a guy like that when he openly admits to being in a cult that has been known for covering up abuse? Did he make you sign something beforehand?
The Daybell case is fascinating but tragic. Those poor kids. I worked with special needs kids for over a decade. My heart broke.
Oh the irony of a person who belongs to a religion based on a man who claimed to find golden plates in his back yard but could never show them to anyone, talking about the insanity of other cults… 🙄🙄🙄
So sure, show me a religion where women are encouraged to have multiple husbands, and, yeah, I’ll go along with polygamy. The problem with polygamous societies is the daughters born into them always become chattel.
Exactly!! Polygamy is a general term for a spouse having more than one spouse. What we are talking about here is actually called polygyny--a husband having more than one wife. For a wife to have more than one husband is called polyandry. That is extremely rare. I read a book by a lady that was raised in a culture like that, I think it was in Mongolia. And that way of life is dying out. Also, I'm pretty sure some Native American cultures practiced polyandry. The book is called Leaving Mother Lake by Yang Erche Namu. And it is in the Himalayas, not Mongolia. When I looked it up on Amazon, I saw that it is only 1.99$ on Kindle. I would highly recommend this book. It's probably an account of the last polyandrous society to exist.
I do not understand why I keep on watching things about cults...why am I so fascinated by the possibility of brainwash people?
My episode with professor Paul bloom might explain it. I think it’s on UA-cam but if not it’s Spotify and apple. Why we like suffering !!
I know why I'm fascinated with cults. I was in one for 28 years. And I was not born into it like most cult members. I'm very glad that part of my life is over!!!
on polygamy - when only men are allowed to have multiple wives it's really bad for society. you end up with a surplus of lonely, sexually frustrated young men who then go out and engage in destructive, violent behaviour. that's one example
Depence, you have surplus of women in Philippines, who makes men there abusive, lazy, and taking andvatange of women t.ex.
Let me stop you right there - women are not resources to be redistributed to either powerful psychopaths that acquire entire harems nor are they toys to placate single sexually frustrated men. Lots of people have no relationship, there is never any excuse to turn violent. Fucks sake. Women get to choose who they associate with, when will society get to a state where this is not in debate?
Criminals esp.. Pedophiles hide behind religion. In the name of jesus , offer healing and greatness . And jews be a Sephardic or etc is much a victim but much more than any other religions like Muslims or run of the mill cults
Part of Polygamy is that multiple families on Welfare.
Polygamy was legal in India till the 1950s....many Hindu men as well as Rajas and Maharajas had more than 1 wife..
Around 10 min on......while listening to his talk about faith, I was reminded of an out of print book that sheds light on this theme. It's called The Power Tactics Of Jesus Christ and Other Essays....by Jay Haley....it is a series of sardonic essays, mostly about psychotherapy and group phenomena. But the lead essay, describes Jesus as a power manipulator, who developed a number of "tactics" to influence large groups of vulnerable people...
Haley also once studied in the seminary, so he describes his particular tactics and how this contradicts with actual scriptures...I'm Jewish but it wasnt the least bit off putting....there are also equally sarcastically written essays such as "How to be a failure as a private practitioner ( a pitch for brief solution focused therapy) or "The Art of Psychoanalysis" ( a spoof on the subject, boiling it down to power games)...."The Amicable Hippy" ( a commentary on parenting) and the like....Haley was a pioneer in the family therapy field and a communications researcher. "Try it you'll like it!" ....lol
Nice video 🙂
I'm late, but I'm catching up now. Hi y'all 🤠
Why are defendants who are mentally ill considered not guilty and given a pass when they committed the crime?
I love when two of my favorite YT creators collide!! I’m not surprised in the least that after Mike met with the victims on Dr Phil years after he rescued them that he did what he could to remedy where others dropped the ball. He cares….a lot and you can tell.
Okay Andrew, this is so much better than the Harry and Meghan stuff. So much speculation on that topic....enough. This is real. Thank you!
I think you'll like this playlist of mine: studio.ua-cam.com/users/playlistPLwU7HOfuSL5KD5s9hGoPuyVzN_VwG4Yi_/edit
What a caring person. I’ll definitely follow his channel.
great interview! see the only thing about schizophrenia that i think adds a layer which is really hard to detect the truth or not, but you can both believe what you are being told AND know how to operate within the society. still believe what you are doing is for the greater good etc, but against laws but are destined to do it or chosen for whatever reason. anyway super interesting.
In Lori's beliefs, zombies have no souls, they are overtaken by evil! And she also believed she was given god powers, that she was a goddess!
Mike is amazing!
How sick must these.parents be, to throw their kids to the wolf's????
I was on Dr Phil with him sharing my story as a kid there...
Wow thank you Amber!
Yay, Mike King! Another great person to interview. Thanks!
Thanks Aun!!
Where's your black turtle neck 🤩.
I didn’t have it yet when we did this episode. Rest assured, it will be back
Hi Andrew I've been listening to you for a while now and I must say I thank you for what you bringing to the surface we would never know what goes on behind closed doors. I'm shocked.
Thank you so very much.🤗🤗👌👌
Thanks Sharon
That Dr Phil clip just got a whole lot of traffic I'm betting. I went straight there :)
Evangelical PREACHERS enabled tragedy of Palestine
Great work tonight guys, educating us but also both leading by example. You are both empathetic, kind, humble, well balanced and utterly decent human beings. I follow Mike on Profiling Evil. He is extremely intelligent and I am always so sad that he doesn't know that he too was indoctrinated from birth. He does good every day of his life and is a wonderful role model. We can only be grateful for him and be glad that religious indoctrination didn't pervert him as it can do for many.
I felt sad too, when he talked about his Mormon beliefs. But like you said, he is a very good person!
Just as I thought I had seen "no new thing under the sun" - WAIT! THERE''S MORE!! 😒Okay - what's these people's SCHTICK?!?
Defective Mike needs to seek the truth. We can help him. Scientology has all the answers. Mike. Come to Clearwater Florida. You need to be audited. We have a position open for you in The Office of Special Affairs. Your skills are highly valuable. When you come, be sure to bring all of your financial information.
How do you get out the cult?
You should talk about and write about the seedy side of RITUAL CRIME:
That ALL THESE CHILDREN WENT THROUGH.
That's the only way society will know and be vigilant to: SOCIETY CANNOT IMAGINE THIS:
BECAUSE PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW DEMONIC THESE PERPETRATORS ARE::: TO BABIES: TODDLERS, LITTLE CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS: God help us:
Hey Andrew, how did it feel when Detective Mike read you your rights?! Lol (Hopefully that was your 1st & last time!!)
Lol you brought a guy from one cult to talk about another cult? Bahaha.
What I don't understand is that the Bible clearly states that if someone claims to prophesy, and the prophesy isn't true, then he's a fraud. Do they cut this part out of the Bible? There are major churches built on a false foundation. Otherwise, I'd guess people believe whatever they want to believe, leaving God out of it.
God supported polygamy?? Mmmkkkk 😵💫😵💫😵💫
I find Mike King a likeable man, and appreciate his work. I wonder if he believes the Mormon tenets in a literal sense. Garden of Eden in Missouri? Baptism of dead people? Polygamy on distant planets in the afterlife?
I love your style but when a guest makes spurious remarks via promoting stereotypes and generalizations, I hope you’ll challenge the guest to support their arguments as a good interviewer will do. Just giving a platform to those who want to promote their divisive agenda isn’t journalism. It’s giving cover and helping them spread lies. And she took you both to the cleaners, leaving your audience holding the bag. I believe you are much much better than that. ❤
I think your opinion here would be the exception rather than the rule.
@@JoSpring Fine. Prove me wrong. What’s your evidence? Can you make an argument to support your opinion? Or do you merely wish to presume to speak for others?
@@TrueClearMedia No I'm not interested in talking to you.
@@JoSpring LOL. Then I think I understand the nature of your disagreement.
@@TrueClearMedia That would be accurate. You think you do. Which is the same as knowing nothing at all.
It’s one thing if grown adults choose to enter into a polygamist relationship, do I agree with it, no but the issue is when they force children into marriages or sexual relationships with men 3-4 times their age!!
I guess the point of why polygamy is illegal is because power always corrupts. When there's two people the balance is more simple to observe and notice abuse.
I’m glad that these kids got the help and education they should have been given in the first place. Now can we discuss the fact that this lack of help and education occurs all throughout the foster care system.
Even though the guest is in a very destructive cult, he's doing good work taking down predators in another destructive cult.
Thank you Andrew for having Mike on. What great detective!
Big deal, they paid for counciling,..how bout some cash,get them a life,
Imagine trying to expose a cult and then saykng you belong to one. You lost all credibility when you said you a mormon
I have questions about Later Day Saints. They, too, have a founder who has a suspiciousness about him. He was ALSO a fiction writer.
Such nice people though.
Hagee??? Where's accountability
❤️ Just to help the algorithm. You SO deserve 1 billion subscribers!!!
You're the best!
Only the ego can seek admiration. You were born perfect. Eff the cults.
I've always like Mike King and found him to be so balanced, gentle and fair. This interview is a home run. I am sitting here wondering if I'll ever hear a better interview on ritual abuse. I just ran across this channel and I am wondering if there are examples of cults that forcefully make young men have sex with minors, or minors (older ones) to groom younger children in preparation for assault by adults? How would the legal system deal with these situations ? Would the older kids be accountable if there was threats and force applied? I've read about this in another country. Not asking because I am curious but because I think we may be seeing a court case where this happened.
I really love Andrew Gold thanks for having him on 😊
I am a ex jw and I love Jesus Christ so very much
One of the reasons I don't like watching this kind of show is the host constantly interrupting or insisting their beliefs are right. You don't do that. I've recently stumbled onto your channel and am playing catchup. I did laugh to myself when he mentioned his religion but was very impressed by end of interview. Only vaguely aware of story and have already gone to his channel for follow up. I'm still sorting out thoughts on interview I watched bf this one but will comment soon. Thank you for your unique style and look forward to many more shows.
ah thank you so much for the kind words- hope you keep enjoying :D
I don't agree with the LDS Mormon or any religion, but Mike is a great person. This was a great interview. There is so much cruelty in the world. Why people don't ever learn - every religion distorts and limits your view of the world.