Majora's Mask On Switch Is Phenomenal | N64 vs Switch Comparison
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- I was incredibly scared of Ocarina of Time's graphical problems to translate on Majora but...THAT ALL HAS CHANGED! It's simply phenomenal, and right now the best way to play Majora. Here's why.
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The 'save states' are one of my favorite features of the Switch ports for classic games. I mean turning the Switch off while playing and coming back hours later just to unpause where you left off is good in itself but ugh--some games like MMs' QoL is improved with the save state feature
My same sentiments. I do like having that option cuz man those long stretches of not saving really makes me paranoid. I appreciate the save states because of it
*flashbacks of falling down the entire snowhead temple*
Yeah save states make this game so much less infuriating. Still my favorite zelda regardless.
I actually had to replay the entire Great Bay temple because I ran out of time and didn't get the stupid stray fairies :') save states would have helped if I played on swinchy
Majors mask is ruined by save states
Then don't use the save states.
I love having all these games on my switch.. my only complaint is the controls. I wish I could remap some buttons but it’s not a huge deal.
It still drives me bonkers that it has to be changed I hate it. Like every timeeeeeee
@@Kelphelp yeah, it is super annoying why don't just come out with a n64 controller for the switch lol
Uh....they did actually. And its sold out atm.
You can remap buttons on the Switch's controller options. I put N64 A and B on Joycon B and Y for Banjo.
But you have to do it.
Every.
Time.
And it messes with the home system. I know for sure it's a fix and it's true but man it does get annoying to repeatedly do so
They should make a complete remake of Majora mask like Capcom did with resident evil 2. Making it even darker with some remastered music too. This was 1 of the best Zelda games in the franchise it deserves it
Give it some time. Fans are fixing up the PC port of ocarina so majors might not be long
Unironically one of the worst ideas I have heard, these 'complete' remakes are completely different games and in many ways botch the original vision, RE2R for instance as you mention is *nothing* like the actual RE2, that's not even mentioning how devoid of creativity the entire concept of a remake is
stop modernizing everything and just enjoy things for what they are. always wanting more, look @ u all big n greedy. smfh
@@satanael5 it's just a idea. The original will still be loved and available just like other remasters. Ive played n beat Majora's mask 64 hella times while i've beaten its "remaster" on 3ds only once. The remakes are for kids These days who did not know these games existed back then and for those like me who just want a different or more detailed perspective of the game with a touch of nostalgia . These nerds are sumn else these days
Have you seen the mod Project Restoration for MM3D? In my opinion it is the best way to play Majora's Mask hands down, it reimplements everything from the original but keeps the quality of life changes from the 3DS version, and adds a few extra qol additions of its own too! I'd say it's worth checking out for anyone that loves Majora's Mask
I prefer the n64 version to the 3ds version even with the restoration patch
Interesting so is this a mod using Citra or how does it work? I am curious on the PC port that will eventually come out so only a matter of time in that factor.
@@Kelphelp What SKmaric said! If you google "project restoration" it's the first link with "zora" in the URL, and that will give you a breakdown of all the features and changes the mod has as well as installation instructions.
Oh yeah, another thing to point out would be Nerrel's HD texture pack for the N64 version where every texture is hand painted to look faithful. He's also planning on porting it to the 3DS version, which would truely make it the best version ever!
Yes and I played this mod recently and it was my first experience with vanilla Majora since I was a kid (I play the randomizer). It fixes all the problems with MM3D and keeps a few good changes that were made. I can’t recommend it highly enough and it can be played on an actual 3DS if it’s hacked which is so easy to do
MM is intended to be a time management hustle, so idk about that with the 3DS version talking about fidelity. Sure is the best way if you grew up in 2005 and save states and check points are mandatory.
Also there is a n64 MM romhack that let's you have some of the QoL changes to the d-pad.
Just played through Majoras mask for the first time since my childhood and wow this game was amazing and it looked so good!
That's exactly what I love to hear. I still feel it holds up very well and still one of Zelda's best
Definitely! The dialogue at some points had me in tears, the creators made such an amazing world in the limited time they had it’s amazing.
And then actually having us in tears through the wmotion. The Anju quest is honestly one of the best ones inho. Game still is so memorable in so many srctions
@@Kelphelp seriously! I heard that that quest was inspired by one of the developers going to a wedding while North Korea was testing missiles over Japan and there was this sense of panic at the wedding that they could all be dead any second. Game has no right being this good.
I’m so glad they fixed OoT and MM looks great, but holy hell I would love if they let us remove those annoying screen borders. Kills immersion for me
As cool as that would be, it might cause alot more time modifying the game well beyond the scope of simply emulating it.
I say either play the 3D REmake or wait for the eventuality of a PC port for Majora
Change the screen ratio on your tv settings to all direction.
Bruh that stretches the game to horrible proportions that weren't intended. It's gonna look terrible with bad pixel imperfectiob
@@Kelphelp it’s only a tiny bit overstretched vertically but it’s perfect horizontally to where it looks 1080p. It doesn’t make the pixels worse to me, have you tried it?
Def not. Not s fan of stretched pixels personally. Either pixel perfect or interfere scaling at nearest neighbor is my preference.
UltraHDMI is set to Interger+, no Vi-Blur at 1080p
Cam I just say that who ever at Nintendo that went into the game coding to fix is much have felt like he was going to space trying to fix something and making sure everything else is okay. Massive respect a such an honor that person must have felt.
That’s actually really nice to hear they fixed the games graphics I’m seriously considering getting switch online to play Ocarina of time and Majoras mask because I’ve never played them. I’ve only played botw and skyward sword but really loved them
With all the fixes and everything I can happily recommend them as a great method to play. The fog is fixed, suspend features and everything. My only complaint is controller layout but hey you should be having an amazing time man
If you have a 3DS, get those versions instead. They are MUCH better.
Do it. Best game series ever. Cant wait until they put WW and TP on switch too
The day they put it on Switch is the day I cry. I really...really hope they port it over
DO IT
I'll probably continue playing on original hardware but I'm seriously considering getting the nso expansion to show appreciation for their efforts to go back and fix the emulator issues
At the beginning I thought the NSO was a big joke especially with the bad emulation, but active fixes makes it worth it. I'm playing Majora on official hardware but can't deny the great convinience of having it on the Switch
Appreciation for their efforts?! They did the bare fucking minimum, like six months after release. Modern nintendo is still cunty as ever, they're just covering their asses so people will keep paying for barebones emulation of 20 year old games.
I really wouldn't support it, especially if you don't need it.
Plus now you can play on the toilet
@@DeltaBlazin yeah bro I would t support it either. Nintendo takes too long on everything
currently playing mm for the very first time in my entire life thanks to the switch. i’ve been wanting to play it for more than an entire decade at this point but never had this specific game growing up for the n64
i think i might’ve had it for the 3ds at one point? but that might’ve been oot (which i plan to play next on the switch)
The way I enjoy my Majora's Mask nowadays is by playing M'sM randomizers on my N64 with an Everdrive.
The ultimate way for a veteran player!
Bruh that sounds fantastic. I truly do wish I had an Everdrive at this point and regret it. Definitely would help with video production too
Yeah buddy i love my ultra hdmi n64
Same. Got it in 2016 and never looked back
I think the lighting difference is just due to the difference of outputs between the consoles. The N64 used the now ancient composite cables, and the output being as old as it is saturated the picture more then was actually programmed, especially on modern displays. The emulator doesn’t have to register any output, so the lighting is perfectly faithful to what was coded. Really a non issue to me.
How do you know what the person who recorded the N64 was using? They could've used S-Video, RGB mod, HDMI mod..
It's an UltraHDMi I used. I am the person who recorded this in that quality. No composite cables.
@@Kelphelp I had one of those a few years ago but I returned it in favor of using CRT instead
Trust I feel ya hard on that, I just got a PVM so cannot wait to go deeply into that world snd see how thr CRT life is. And I do use it to some degree on Win95.
Glad to see it's been good for ya man, can't wait to go deeper
Now this is how you do some videos keep this up man don't ever change this kind of style if you're talking about comparisons of games
This is honestly how I been really loving doing these videos. Short, sweet and concise.
The bigger Port vs Port videos I'll make sure to take more time but these are nice little tidbits to do, and much easier to edit and produce.
I have been playing the N64 version as of late and as these old games are prone to do, my game randomly crashed right after I beat a boss before I had an opportunity to save. Not only did I have to beat the boss over again, but even though I had made sure to save the game right before getting to said boss, I lost all my temple progress too! Because on the N64, if you reset the game without saving, the game does not take you back to your last save, but you instead start back at day 1! ahhhhhhh! All I could think was, man, the people playing the Switch version are SMART! Though I can’t help but wonder for first-time players how much the Switch version takes away from the challenge of the time clock mechanic of the game. It’s almost meaningless when you can create infinite save points.
I'm in the same boat as you. Those save states are huge pluses and I lost my saves so many times while playing 64 majora. Annoys the hell outta me
Just dont use them. That becomes a non issue but the urge literally would be there because going all the way back when i first played it was annoying as crud and it made me put it down and never finish(then again I was like... 6. )
Just got the expansion and even though I already have an N64 with Everdrive and even an Eon Hdmi adapter, I'm gonna finish Majora's Mask on my Switch since save states and it being portable will motivate me to actually finish the game this time lol
Sometimes those covninences are all we need
3:52 I can really appreciate this because I remember playing the Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie XBLA remasters, which both had significant framerate boosts especially on newer consoles like the Xbox One and Series X which have them run at 60fps, and this caused the cutscenes to play out of sync with the music because the cutscenes weren't meant to run that fast.
I havent played majoras mask in years and i still have PTSD from that fish boss
8:17 “How are you going to be playing Majora’s mask? Are you’re taking it portable on switch or experiencing those raw weird ass pixels on the 64?”
Me who plays it on 3ds: *I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you.*
Wait till the 3DS assets make it to the PC port. We gonna be dimensions and light years ahead.
The best way to play is on PC, by far. Nerrel's 4K texture pack, ambient occlusion, additional button mapping, and mods to fix bugs from the original game.
Oooooooo definitely curious on this! PC port might wanna have a word when that comes.
I've been playing and noticed a few framerate problems, with the snowhead área, with some of those white balls attacks you and you're rolling there may be a Little bit of lag, but well, getting lag on that super spesific stuff isn't that bad, and with the price looks like Nintendo is making it worth, i really hope we get constant uptdates like, just look at Mario kart 8, the ones with the expansion pack would have the dlc for free (also i think that if when the expansion pass was originaly announced Nintendo dropped that, maybe it wouldnt get that much hate)
The frame drops are in the original game as well, but they're not that bad
@@Pizboyfrog18 i played the original and the 3ds versión, it's like when a SNES game lags a little, it's the game's itself limit that's design
Framerate is just from the game itself, original had that
It does feel more steady than the original from that degree.
Technically the lag there means it's actually being emulated properly, so it's almost a good thing in a way. The more accurate the emulation the less likelyhood of random crashes like with Gamecube and WiiVC. I haven't heard of anyone having them on either OoT or MM on NSO yet which is a good sign
Fun fact, Nintendo actually using roms which we used to download from the internet. Which means someone who uploaded the first rom could have modded a sort of easter egg in the middle of the game and Nintendo would put it in the software without knowing it.
You have a source supporting that claim? I never heard that before
@@Kelphelp it was proven for Super Mario Bros for Wii VC but I don’t know why they shouldn’t did it with the rest of the games. I know it feels wrong
No like do you have an article or something that deep dives into that claim of actually using internet roms? It's just that its a bold claim and I wanna see support for that
3:23 let's face it, we all still do this even if we've played this game a million times.
He drops down on me....every fucking time and I genuinely hate it. Like please...why
Hey man, great video!
One thing though: you can't really use the word 'verbatim' that way. It only works for when you're trying to say that two sets of words are the same, it can't apply to anything else (like graphics). Not important though!
You can Def tell this ain't scripted just with my word choice :3 hehehe all on my brainnnn. Well kinda for better or worse.
I'm gonna play straight without suspend first, as originally intended, then once I complete it I'll use suspend saves to play around with glitches
That's a good idea too actually. Suspend features really help with exploring certain features of thr game
I own the version on the Zelda Collector's Edition disc for the GameCube, which is closer to the original N64 version more than anything. But this video got me curious as to how that version handled its emulating differently than the Switch port.
I definitely want to cover that in a full Port vs Port video, but that will for sure take months to make.
I do need an everdrive 64 as well and that's also hampering production.
that version crashes a bit in ways the original didnt iirc
iirc it mostly crashed when you have rumble ON. I remember crashing a few times and then reading somewhere that with rumble OFF should be fine. Turns out was true.
@@mewalex3450 That's a myth actually, I played that version a lot in my teens and had about the same amount of crashes. This is just something that spread around internet forums a lot back in the day. To avoid that issue for the most part I'd just save at owl statues somewhat often and copy over to file 2. But many playthroughs I'd go without crashing.
Nah it's pretty far off emulation of the N64, it lags way harder and has horrible load times. They basically didn't optimize the emulator for Majora's Mask at all and it's as if it were running without the expansion pack. But it was just a quickly thrown together promotional disc so what can you expect.
That said, it's still graphically the best version out of all ports to this day. Great color saturation and the red and green HUD buttons look so nice all shiny. Wii VC has ugly explosions/torch flames and switch has ugly explosions and some iffy fog here and there.
The only bad thing is that explosions look weird on the Switch version
Glad you mentioned that, I noticed fire and explosions both look different and have different colorings too. Thr N64 version is much more vibrant and nicely colored compared to NSO
I personally think that 3ds version with the 4k textures and project restoration mod is so much better
If it works for ya that's all good. This is pretty much another beast entirely since it's a source port so features will only get better as time goes on
@@Kelphelp yeah that's true oh and if mi english is not so good is because i am preuvian
Si te hace más confortable habla en español. A mi me da igual.
@@Kelphelp ok muchas gracias aunque me parece mejor hablar en inglés porque quiero aprender a hablar bien en ese idioma
That's perfectly fine by me man. I'll respond in English to help ya a bit but don't be afraid to respond in Spanish. Very much do live streams in Spanish as well so don't feel like it takes away from anything.
MM3D on a new 3DS XL is definitely still the best way to play the game. I know people don't like a lot of the changes but no one who doesn't have fond memories of the original will think they're such a big deal as to forego the improvement in texture and model quality, and QoL improvements.
I actually really loved the 3DS REmake and the unique and great changes to the game. It was vastly improved and I loved every moment of it.
I'm just sad since I lent my copy to a friend and we parted ways, and never got it back 😔
MM3d is absolutely the best version, and this is coming from a die hard Majoras Mask fan
@UCaCSF30MYsrhYhNJPuEPscQ None of this is objective. In the original Great Bay, you do indeed swim quickly through nothing, a boring case of getting from A to B. In 3D enemies and objects drop magic to incentivise engaging with the environment and thinking about your route. The changes to the bosses put them in line with the rest of the Zelda games by making them, you know, bosses instead of glorified enemies. The Twinmold fight especially introduces a unique mechanic instead of "fight when small, now fight when big".
At least you admit to having a clear bias to the original at least?
@@Kelphelp I have it on my jailbroken 3DS because it’s difficult to get the 3DS Version of Majoras Mask as a original Cartridge or they just being really expensive.
Yea they are starting to shoot up in price which really sucks these days too. I hate that I used to have a copy and lent it to a friend we lost touch, so I know I'll never get it back 😔
About the game looking brighter, I think that's necessary because the Switch can be played outdoors whereas the N64 is usually played indoors. If you want to restore the darkness you can always turn down the brightness on your TV anyway
That's a good point that could be why. Still weird that they did regardless
I mean this was captured on an UltraHDMI through an El Gato 60. Whatever the HDMi spits out is what the 64 outputs. I could see the 60 possibly being a problem but seems to have exported fine.
Thanks for explaining frame rates to me. I always hear about people complaining about frame rate dips and I don't know what they're talking about. Heck, even with an idea of what they are I doubt I will notice them. I've never played a game and had a moment where they game broke or graphics changed and I noticed something out of whack. I guess the frame-rate dip is a subtle thing that only highly observant people with robot eyes notice, cuz I never do.
My pleasure man! Framerate sensitivity can depend from person to person eith some people observing more than others. Tbh if you don't notice much even better cuz once you do...kinda sucks in the way where some titles can be harder to enjoy.
@@Kelphelp my eyes shall continue their blissful ignorance, but my mind is now informed. Take care mate!
Lol you missed the option of gamecube port with the collectors edition. One thing I hated playing that emulated 64 game was the saving/freezing issues. When I had to collect all the eggs, and was constantly going to new areas, it had a tendency to freeze on the loading screens. I remember having to attempt it over a dozen times to get through the whole thing so I could then finish the quest and save it. It's still well worth it when comparing it to all the issues the 3DS mods had.
Well first I didn't have that in hand to record so I couldn't do that and 2nd, it's literally just both games in one disc. There isn't any difference
@@Kelphelp Lol no, I wouldn't expect you to have every iteration. I just meant in general it's another way you can play it. Some people forget about it buts it's actually great alternative if you dont want to find multiple consoles and a copy of all 4 games that it has on it.
That will be for another video entirely. I might cover it later at some point, but will take alot of time. Maybe one day
Glad they fixed it. I wonder if the Skultulla house is fixed too.
So after the update I personally went back and checked. It looks exactly like the original! Lighting has been fixed!!
Other UA-camrs like Modern Vintage Gamer have also confirmed this so they are actively fixing the NSO!
I can appreciate they got it working in terms of visuals, but coming from the N64 version the input lag makes it unplayable for me. Hopefully people will still enjoy it because it's the only version of MM on Nintendo's supported hardware now after the 3DS eShop closes
I didn't feel it but I know it can be susceptible for sure other people. It genuinely sucks they aren't fixing it though.
@@Kelphelp they are, the input lag has been reduced in both the banjo kazooie release and the majoras release for like half a frame each
That's a large amount and surprising nintendo is actively fixing it. With tomorrow's update it's possible the gap will get smaller.
@@Kelphelp I'll add an update, I gave it another shot and it's definitely not unplayable after the update. I'm hoping more updates come soon, that's sort of the good part of it being a live service, although I'm skeptical they'll keep it in 5 years when the switch eShop shuts down
I love the fact that you can play these old games through their subscription, makes it worth it, but my only complaints of those retro console apps are that there isn’t wide screen mode, which is a bit fine, but the fact you can’t map controls is a bit annoying. I’m a newer fan to Zelda, and it took me a bit to transfer control muscle memory from BOTW to OOT. None the less, I’ve had fun playing both OOT and MM, and I can’t wait to see what more of the franchise I’ll be able to play
Wide-screen is a tough option because that would definitely stretch the image to where it distorts the original intention. Scaling options would be nice to properly scale it but yea there aren't many options for it. Button mapping....ugh don't get me started, but glad you love the franchise wne welcome to a whole new world here!
Do note that this version is NOT perfect. Here are some notable issues and differences:
- Supposedly switch pro controllers do not walk straight (I have not verified this myself, but I've seen both speedrunners and casual players talk about this)
- The newer style of explosion that Majora's mask uses over ocarina of time does not display correctly.
- There is notable input delay, which although not as bad as OOT on the launch of the expansion pack, is still pretty noticeable (may cause problems with the postman's timing minigame)
- The sky texture does not display correctly and may appear to shake
- The game has a graphical delay that causes a timing discrepancy between controller vibration and visuals on the screen
- The pictobox takes a substantially longer amount of time to take pictures
- Certain particle effects do not display, including certain projectiles as well as the deku flower particles that appear when you bury yourself
- The texture created by sword strikes often displays incorrectly, being a muted white instead of a vibrant flash
- The flash created when shooting the balloons at Romani ranch does not display correctly, often appearing completely invisible
- Not a huge deal necessarily but there are many timing and lag discrepancies that make some areas lag less but also make certain speedrunning tricks significantly harder, such as pause buffering
- Some particle effects display as the wrong color, such as Goht's lightning displaying as white rather than blue (this may be a related problem to the sword strike issue)
- The flash created by shooting the ghosts at Romani ranch displays significantly brighter, causing other lighting issues to appear across the whole ranch for a couple of frames (including black circles that appear around the ghosts themselves. I believe it also displays for a frame longer than normal but nothing too extreme)
- The lasers created by the final boss do not display correctly, including both the laser itself and the fire particles it creates (the particles being the same issue as the explosions)
OVERALL:
Obviously most of these things barely matter. It remains that the best way of playing the game is either on an original N64 or through a 3rd party emulator, but the biggest issues are the same as what they've been across all NSO n64 games (save for the input delay, which is pretty terrible)
The things to keep in mind are that the controller options for NSO aren't very good at the moment, the expansion pack itself is 50 dollars for very few features (at least for now,) and if you wanted to try any speedrunning tricks, many will remain mostly inaccessible or inconsistent due to the other issues. If you are dead set on playing this version, I'd advise picking up either a third party gamecube controller adapter designed for NSO or an official bluetooth N64 controller, unless you REALLY don't notice when controls are off.
Alot of great input here, thanks so much for taking the time to write them out!
I wholeheartedly agree with alot of this. Input delay is terrible and I can't imagine the nightmare speedrunners must face when playing. As for the controller...I really think the official N64 controller would work beautifully. I just hope that Nintendo will release more of em.
@@Kelphelp Honestly this kind of response is a pleasant surprise lol
I think it's fair to say Nintendo hasn't given their online service a lot of care, but at the very least it does seem to be getting slightly better (except for the actual online, which has remained mostly the same)
Exactly, and reason I love to be critical when possible is not necessarily to be contrarian but also to point out flaws that can be fixed.
Nintendo has shown they want to do the bare minimum, and maybe beyond. For titles like Majora it actually works well! Others like F-Zero...not so much :x
Good thing they fixed it
That's what I'm saying!
i’m just confused about why they didn’t make it 3D considering that there’s a 3D version on the 3Ds
If we getting technical the game is in 3D but you mean the 3D assets for 3D remake. That would cause them to have to port that version, not 64. So that's why
Project Restoration on the 3DS for Majora's Mask is the best way to play the game.
Give it time, Ship of Harkinian gonna work on this after they finish Ocarina!
Here's my problem with Nintendo, you see I bought Half Life 2 back in 2004 and until this day I'm able to play it without a problem and even with plenty of enhancements made by the community. In the case of Majora's Mask I bought back in 2000 for a staggering $70 😱, then I bought again for the Wii for 12 bucks and finally $40 for the God awful remake, now they expect me to pay more money for a version which I bought twice before? GTFOH, next time I play MsM will be the PC port with Nerrel's texture pack. I'm sick of Nintendo and their greedy tactics, the switch can run the Wii emulators and all the games easily if they want.
I ain't disagreeing in the slightest. I always felt these days Microsoft is the shining example of digital and physical rollback that take pride in your older downloads. I really...really wish other companies Nintendo included took example from this. It's a shame too cuz people would love to pay one fee just to have these games playable.
I'm a big MM randomizer guy. Genuinely feel it can offer a better experience as you can tailor the game to skip cutscenes, fix rng, raise damage taken, and cause the moon crash on player death. Optimization for old players type stuff.
I've been told by many they prefer Randomizers solely due to QoL features and if that's the case I think it's a great way to experience a classic without being hampered by archaic design choices. If I had an everdrive I would love to test em out
How did Nintendo Switch Online go from the worst version of Ocarina to the best version of Majora?
Nintendo did their homework
@@Kelphelp For once
I really like playing Nerrel's version on pc. Even if you're anti-piracy if you have the wii U version you can dump the rom onto your pc and play it fine.
Haven't heard of Nerrel's version but I'll check it out. I'm Def curious
using owl statues for fast travel points only is great
Agreed. That's the only use they get but ad a quick save function...ugh its annoying
So, this is a direct emulation of the N64 version. I figure that means that the modifications Nintendo made to the 3DS port are not present in this version, is that correct?
That is correct sir. This is pretty much thr N64 version as it comes. 3DS version is a Remaster of sorts.
Good to know, thank you.
In my opinion, one of the best ways to play the game is by using an emulator(even if it is legally dubious).
This is because of supposedly better emulation and because of all of the fan content produced for these old games. There so much crazy stuff you can do with an emulator.
nothing legally dubious about it. downloading/sharing the rom is the illegal part. emulation is considered transformative
^agreed.
Speaking of which, if I intended to emulate Majora's Mask on my computer, what would be the best way of emulating it?
@@WretchedRedoran citra... im playing it right now
looks and plays wonderful
@@PlanetM1975 Thank you :)
I'd love HD upscales of OOT 3D and MM 3D on the switch, blending the best features from the original and the remakes to make "definitive editions" of them (see Nerrel's reviews/retrospectives on the 3D versions)
It's possible actually. OOT has a PC PORT you can play in switch and it was confirmed for having a texture pack so we can for sure see that
MM 3D with the Project Restoration mod is still the best.
Not anymore, I'm working on another video to talk about the Ship of Harkinian PC Port. Absolutely stellar
@@Kelphelp mmeh. I like playing the game on my 3ds
Choice is yours. That's why they exist
Your channel is great it deserves to get huge! 💪
Wow look how swole dat arm is!! Thanks so much for the words and glad you enjoyed the vid!
Nerral's Majora's Mask texture pack is far better than any of this.
I mean that goes beyond anything Vanilla in general which kind of isn't the scope of the NSO
@@Kelphelp
Truth.
I'm glad you touched on the owl statue mechanic. I couldn't finish this game on 1st release because of those damn owls
It's for some and not for others. For my paranoia knowing you have to "quick save" is extremely annoying. For sure ain't my cup of tea
@Paraone Ngatai I feel like it was a decision made just to make the game more stressful. It's like, not only are you on a 72-minute timer, but now that you have to stop playing, you have to find an owl statue. Then, you better hope you can figure out where you left off the last time you played
Its definitely supposed to inspire confusion and desperation through time crunching. As a design choice it's ohenominal but I personally think it hasn't aged as well
Love this video since I was hunting Zelda MM again and get the console N64 again with expansion pak. My parent still had my N64 so somehow my dad wanted to keep it. I loved my father and he is 72 years old that who loves Donkey Kong 64 and Goldeneye 007. We played alot together in the 90s which it was our best moment together. Fast forward to now, I am 35... sooo still love play video games but somehow N64 desire us all with their Cartridge and not needed to be an disc which made their value worth more. Lol, which I love about N64 and sucks that they have 364 games titles by comparing another consoles which has over 1k games list or more than N64 has. Mclassic upscale to 4k did help alot if playing on 4k tv, worth getting it if want to feel like OG again which its nothing wrong with that if you got the money.
Also for Nintendo Switch, I played them both and compare them both as well by using Mclassic 4k upscale plug-in as well to HDMI converse cable. I noticed switch has better experience on N64 expansion Pak online,. They fixed frame rate into solid gameplay and pictures do looks a lot sharper and colors damn looks amazing on my OLED TV.
Also I am Deaf player and loved their close caption and soundtracks. Both do still feel the same but Switch has louder audio for me than N64 does.
I wish they released The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D with some minor changes. :(
You mean port over the 3DS version?
@@Kelphelp With some slight changes, yes.
I Def wouldn't mind it either. Just sucks those stayed on the 3DS as they are great remakes
@@Kelphelp I completely agree. The graphics are so nice and attention to detail is locked away on the 3ds :(
Don't worry though. It's possible le a PC Port of Majora's Mask might happen as Ship of Harkinian is actively working on Ocarina first. So might be possible
100% agree man! Based off of the video I made it seemed like I was the only one who liked this version the most!
I was just surprised how solid this one is as I'm sure you are. It's definitely a great way to play Majora
Dude nice video, but what’s the deal with Majora’s being 30fps, it’s 20 and everything
It's much closer to 30 on Switch than 64 and alot more steady even with dips
@@Kelphelp the game has a framerate of 20fps, both Ocarina of time and Majora's run at 20 on n64 as well, it might not lag as much but thats the dips in framerate below 20fps, running at 30 would make the game completely out of sync...
Is it worth getting majora's mask on 3ds as it cost £35 for it
It's going up in price so if it's good condition might be worth snatching
Its not lighter its less contrast. Because of the old compression there was a lower dynamic range than the switch version. Thats why we see more details at the shadows in the switch version. I also think that they used majoras mask 3d graphics because there are details which are not present in the n64 version so upscaling wont add new textures.
Ah I see that does make I didn't even see that. Thanks for mentioning it man
This game is probably the only reason I would buy the expansion pack, too bad they didn’t make a virtual console type system. If they made a virtual console instead of having to literally pay an absurd amount of money for over a dozen games you don’t want, just to get a few games that you want to play.
It really would have been nice to buy the games singularly rather than the expansion pack. Not a big fan of the format.
I'm sticking with the 3DS versions of OOT and MM
GameCube Legend of Zelda Collector’s Edition on Dolphin. It’s perfect :)
Nice to heard than N64 emulator on NSO are fixe and happy to see than Majora's Mask run good on Switch.
Sad than eShop for WiiU and 3DS are going to close, MM's for 9.99 on Wii U is still a very good price for very good port IMO.
Just think we need to mod our old system to embrace there legacy and it's more true for Connected Hardware with online shop.
Big agree. That's the only way going forward to preserve these games. Honestly piracy is an extension of GAme preservation at the end of the day
Nice info! I will continue playing Majora’s Mask on my Wii :) I bought the game like 10 years ago on the Nintendo Wii Shop. The game plays incredible!
If you bought it then, you deserve to own it. Truly wish rollback features where enabled for older digital purchases
honestly i'd say the best way to play is still on an emulator. the switch version doesn't seem to have anything over emu besides handheld mode, meanwhile on emu you still have save states + improved visuals, plus can remap buttons however you want and use cheats/mods and you're not renting the game for $50 a year. i wonder if this is why nintendo is taking down the e-shops, because the wii u e-shop is the only way for most people to legally own a rom of many n64 games
Oh yea the "maintenance" angle but may never come back up. Feels bad man. Nintendo legit doesn't want their customers to own anything anymore
Well because I’ve been playing this game on the wii I’m probably gonna play this game on my wii, but if my wii gets broken down I will play it on the switch
It's no bad either way and I really appreciate the little optimizations that make it worth getting
@@Kelphelp well thank you sir, yes as I’ve played this game loads of times and I love the game, haven’t completed the n64 version but did complete the 3ds version. But personally I wanna play the original version.
I dont like the resolution cause my 4K tv is upscaling it and it looks terrible
Yea that's where the problem ensues. That's mostly on the 1080p bottleneck on the Switch.
I hope they fix Mario Kart 64 frame rate on the credits xD I played it some days ago and noticed the sound was not sync
Bruh wtf?@ its been out since released ate snd still not fixed?!
@@Kelphelp not at all! I’ve played it with a friend and we noticed it, it was so sad, I haven’t played it again with the Pokémon Snap update
Gimme Till Friday and I'll give ya the scoop
@@Kelphelp thanks! :D
I'm always gonna be *that guy* who prefers original console and the pixelated way it looks, it's primarily a nostalgia thing but also a purism thing I guess. There's still some mild input delay in MM but most people wouldn't notice it, and it's nothing like how atrocious it was in OoT before the latest updates.
Welcome to my world where I am that guy man. I never have a problem usually how people play (maybe if the game is 4:3 stretched incorrectly) but I almost always love retro consoles and playing it on original hardware. It's still my schtick despite making these comparisons
I think i have to disagree with the lighting part, but everything else i agree with!
I think its just a little less contrast. in the comparison, it seems almost too dark imo. I felt like NSO still had the dark vibe and atmosphere though. It's not any different than how i really remember it, but it has been two decades since ive played the n64 version :)
After playing them side by side I definitely feel a slight difference between the two but enough to change the atmosphere. That's my interpretation but Def might not be others and that's fine as well
@@Kelphelp i can understand that. i may have to bust out the n64 again soon and check it out. the sewer area heading towards the observatory did kind of stick out to me in your video though.
I highly recommend doing so so you can see for yourself. Course the footage is direct lossless capture but feel free to compare and see what you think!
bro why is nintendo shutting down the eshop's someone reply I need answers
They never gave an answer just that it is. Most likely to save money when closing the servers
they just gotta remake oot and mm again on like an actual console instead of a hand-held since the two were back on the n64 id like to see how great they could be on the switch or even the next console nintendo would come up with in years to come
Check out the Ship of Harkinian PC port, that definitely seems up the alley of what is coming up for ports and might be what you like.
Playing through the switch and the 3ds version. Doing a comparison.
Nice nice! I hope you find those little differences there!
save states has me sold, ive been playing it on switch and loving it
Say no to owl statues.
Say yes to save states 😎
man, having them side by side like that makes me realize how much better the N64 looks in terms of color and values (not resolution). Makes me realize just how washed out and de saturated all of the ports look. Even that shot at the end of the video with the moons tear falling, the sky looks so much more colorful and moody
Kinda wish there was a way to restore the saturation and pure blacks
You and me both. It always surprises me to see how beautiful and vivid colors are in the 64. It holds up so nicely and even some effects have such a lovely tint to them.
Wait till you add scanlines it's a thing of beauty
cool video dude. Also I love how nintendo listens to it's fans
In some ways yes, some ways no, but I do appreciate they are going back to fixing this NSO
Majora's mask on the 3DS would hands down still be the best way to play. Same goes with ocarina of time
I still enjoy playing those on 3DS. Nintendo did a great job on those remasters
So is using the song of time the same as it is in the 3DS version when you can just jump to whenever time, or is it like the N64 version.
Naw very different. On the Ocarina you can only warp to the Temple of Time and travel through the master sword. Majors let's you travel back 3 days after you use it.
@@Kelphelp I was actually referring to the majora's mask for the 3DS, the remake. Its actually the song of double time, my bad, but in the original you can use it to jump to 6am or 6pm of a certain day, but in the 3ds version, you can jump to an hour of the 3 days.
Ah now I see what you mean. Yea it definitely doesn't do that since it only warps from dusk to dawn. So a tad tedious there
@@Kelphelp Its all right not a game breaker or anything, just thanks for responding so much, I love when creator is in touch with their community.
Naw pleasure is all mine! Appreciate ya taking the time to chime in and have a small chat. Hella appreciate it man
Well this is good news. Idk if this is worth the online subscription by itself or not
Personal choice is up to you but would never hold it against ya if you don't want to. NSO has some positives but Def not for everyone
I don't think that ocarina of time or majora's mask saves your game when you beat it so you can't keep the fierce deity mask. Even when I let it run through the credits to when it says the end it still will not let me keep the mask.. Unless I'm missing something.
HELP!!
It's been a long while since I got the spirit diety but I do remember you able tkeep the mask? It's been so long I'm sorry don't have much info 😔
What about input lag? I heard it was improved, but still needs work.
Ah I did forget to mention that my apologies. But it seems to be significantly better than the other two updates. I haven't tested to what degree but not as noticeable as before
Yeah, this seems like an important factor to think about before declaring the switch version the 2nd best way to play.
Honestly you have every right to feel like you do and if anything comes from a place of trust right? We all want thr best from Nintendo, and NSO sucked during release. These updates are a big step in the right direction but doesn't take the chance that nintendo constantly regresses.
It's still unplayable in terms of input lag, feels like it takes half a second or more before link even reacts to the inputs sadly
Nintendo putting out more updates for 25 year old games than steam games been in bets for 10 years
Yeah games of that era in the N-64 era if you up the frame rate you're more likely just upping the speed of the game everything runs faster it's not necessarily frames I found that out myself
Right? Was pretty shocked when I saw that. I'm no dev but I love learning about some intricacies about certain games in this manner
Great video, I want to play it on Switch but the subscription price is too high to make it worth it.
Absolutely. Its a pretty damn high price to ask for something that shouldn't be hard to access. Big shame on that.
I hate this switch online bullshit. Just let me buy the damn game for like 10 bucks that's all I want😐
I feel it man. Individual sales would have been muuuchhhhhhhh bettwr
I really liked the 3DS remake, honestly they gotta do an HD version that fans have been clamoring for for years
Give it some time, Ship of Harkinian isn't too far away from that.
I just want to clarify; the fixes are only present on Nintendo's game-as-a-service...service and
not any previously purchased copies, right?
Correct. This is only for the NSO version that's it.
I'll stay playing it on my original N64 using the super 64 and an M cable.
Not a bad combo tbh. Love just sticking with the original.
Also shouts to the name Rico 😎
I love this Nintendo Online stuff but one of my few compliants is please Nintendo in many games choose whether or not to invert up and down. OOT, MM, Starfox64 specifically make my up be up and my down be down, it confuses me so much when I press up and my aiming goes off or when playing SF64 my Arwing does down when I push up my brain just doesn't work like that when so many other games the inversion is an option or something you can change in a controls/ options menu.
Big yes in this. Button remapping, full inversion control. These are modern and necessary inclusions that we ask for in modern ports. Nintendo was able to do this for Mario 64 3D all Stars, they can do so here.
I still play it on the n64, but would try the switch port.
It's a convenient way to play so I don't see why not.
Idk why everyone hates on the 3ds version- in my opinion it’s the best version.
It's definitely a solid version, only reason I didn't include it here was because it uses different assets entirely that deviate from the 64 version. So I didn't wanna include that
*laughs in collector’s edition*
Seriously though, the Zelda Collector’s Edition did such a good job on the port I haven’t bothered with any versions aside from the GC version. Despite this, I’m amazed by how good the switch port looks
That's why I'm so shocked how good of a job Nintendo did with some sections of lag and catering to the port that's pretty huge. It makes me want to see if they did the same thing with the other versions.
Which I'm down to do in another video ngl
Your voice is fantastic for narration
You are very kind! Thank you so much for thr watch!
Fuck yes, they did the bare minimum half a year after launching the emulator despite the games all running perfectly 14 years ago on Wii. Why can't I pay MORE for barebones emulation the fans have had nailed down for a decade?
Have my babies Miyamoto-chan!!
I mean....
Are you wrong?
I played Majorca’s mask on the GameCube on the Zelda collection and the frame rates really bad in clock town is that a GameCube emulation issue, or was it that way in N64. Is that issue fixed in the NSO version?
It's a bit more stable on thr NSO but keep in mind Majora was never known for its framerate or Zelda 64 titles for that matter. They can really dip as it was taxing on the hardware
i think they also fixed Oot on the switch too. the input lag atleast
Definitely was fixed with thr lighting. I'm glad they went back and did so
@@Kelphelp me too i got it yesterday (the 3rd) and downloaded it before work, i think that the expansion pack is now kinda worth it, add some gamecube games and then it will be worth it.
Sure, but did they restore the original zora swimming controls? The updated swimming mechanics in the 3ds version was a deal breaker for me. Literally hated that one single thing in what is one of my favorite games of all time. I'll continue to play my 64 version if it has not been reverted to original controls.
I mean this is based off the 64 version so no Zora swimming in sight
Good on them for fixing it, I mean they had to, millions of people are paying for the service. I still don't like this games as a service model and I don't think I ever will get into it.
You right to feel like that, you pay money for this service which doesn't operate properly till well over a year. It can detur anyone off.
Gonna get expansion pack soon. But i just started earthbound so gonna finish that first
Ugh I never get tired of Earthbound. Always meta as hell and and making me laugh daily
We need Cartridge copys for the old zelda games. Like mario 3d Allstars.
If nintendo can bring em all at once I'd be down for it
Game seems fine but they should really give you the option to disable the NSO hud and borders
Absolutely. I would love different options or to just have a black border. We do need more options
If i could buy it in the shop without the online, it would be better
Agreed, it REALLY would be nice if it was able to be playable via eShop download but alas, it isn't the case
Seriously...the biggest complaint about the game is how it looks?? The 64 version looked great for it's time, but is easily the worst version of MM. If the Switch has done nothing different but smooth the graphics some, then it's easily the 2nd wrost version and not worth the $50 sub to play. The best version of MM to play is the 3DS verion. The graphics look amazing and the major problem the 64 version had, you HAD to have a guide in order to be able to do all the sidequests, is fixed with the Bomber's Notebook recording the time sensitive sidequests. So if you stumbled across part of one, you at least had a chance to try and figure it's sequence out without outside help. That is the 1 major issue MM had that made it bad, and the 3DS Remake fixed it. If the Switch is just an upscaled port of the 64, then it's also garbage, go get the 3DS one.
Eh, the 3DS version ruined Zora swimming and ice arrows.
I prefer the N64 version on a gameplay basis.