The unhinged energy of the ninja expert saying "the spartan may win face to face, but the ninja would just run away and come back at night when the spartan is sleeping" has stuck with me for like 15 years
"Ah yeah but spartans were used to pain" My brother in christ, glass shards to the eye won't just hurt, they'll blind you too. It isn't just a big ouchie, it's an Omega Ouchie with a status debuff.
I love how they treat glass shards in your eye as something that can be shrugged off in 3 seconds when it would permanently ruin your vision as well as cause immense pain.
Yeah I have been sprayed with pepper spray just to see what it was like same with a taser, let me tell you if you ever get sprayed with pepper spray and you are in a life or death situation you are gonna lose that fight.
the sheer disrespect, you know he contemplated swinging on him lol seriously though the spartan "experts" were massive dicks in this episode, idk how anyone put up with them, the "ninjas" were kinda immature and goofy but the spartan douchbags were just straight up high school bullies and is no-one gonna mention how the one dude claims to have learned to use a sword in his special forces training? because....yeah, that's totally something they teach in the modern military how to swing a fucking xiphos sword.... i call bullshit lol
@user-mm5mm3ol7f Definitely bull shit. Combat Knife maybe, but a sword? Lol. Also most spec op guys I met were very mature. These guys act like dumb jocks
I truly love the Spartan side talking about how tough the Spartans are, that they'd just kind of shake off getting powdered glass in their eyes and then they put that in the simulation. These people are so deep in their fantasies that they believe their team are a bunch of super heroes. I got a tiny cut on my eye when I was a kid, and I could barely open that eye and had to wear an eye patch. But yeah, glass and pepper? Just walk it off.
@@absolutez3r019 would 100% kill you if you are a warrior on a battlefield. Imagine walking into one of your dead ally's spear, or getting home and being killed because you are a burden to the Sparta! Not to mention infection so close to the brain, imagine if someone put poison or venom powder in that. You dead. It might not be immediate, but you going to die.
I remember this being the episode that made me stop watching this show. I don’t care how absolutely monstrous you are physically. Glass in your eye’s would just be the end.
Of only there was some way of preventing stuff getting in your eyes. I'm sitting here blinking in confusion trying to think of a method to prevent glass in eyes. Seriously I have been squinting so hard staring at these books trying to find a historical method to not get pocketsand in eyes.
Yeah but like most of the ninjas tools it was designed to buy time to run away as historically ninjas avoided direct combat as they nearly always lost.
@@therealshino4607 I know the feeling I had a 3mm sliver of metal from walking by a pipe threader. I got lucky it was steel, and it got taken out with a magnet, still hurt like hell.
@@rjohnson2813 they didn’t ‘avoid’ combat it simply wasn’t their job, they were spies, saboteurs, and assasins, they literally would rarely if ever be near a battlefield
Spears are very hard to throw. Typically, Spartans would carry one to throw, and their slave would carry extras. The Spartans would throw thm from a few meters away as they charged, and would get another when they were cycled out to rest.
Most Greek army’s at the time consisted of Hoplites and fought in phalanxes. Skirmishers we’re thought to first have been used my the city states of Thrace where their Javelins were used to break up the cohesion of an enemy phalanx allowing their own to gain the advantage and route them. Javelins aren’t “hard” to throw at all, they are however hard to throw effectively at long range, similar to how the English longbow man had to train to be effective, the Thracians did too.
and the spear would kill either, death is much more effective than blinding and spears are much easier to hit, honestly if this happened both would bring spears, and the spartan would likely win cause of armor
@@jestawellwhat I don’t get is how can we justify who would win because ninja weren’t fight in the front line that kind of defeats the whole purpose of a ninja and what year because ninja had explosive and smoke depending on the year since ninja were also during the gunpowder era where as spartan era ended way back than so putting a first gen ninja vs prime Sparta …
My favorite episode of this was “Pirate vs Knight.” None of the pirate’s weapons were effective against the Knight’s armor, but the pirate still won because, “the pirate has gun and gunpowder means knight is outdated.”
My friend and I watched that episode together. My friend said the pirate would win if he shot the knight through the opening in the helmet which he called the 'facehole'.. we found that phrase so funny. 'Right in the ole face hole"
@@Thor-Orion yeah I think our scenario was he would have to engage in melee combat then draw his pistol at the right moment and pow! Right in the face hole! The pirate would probably have to Jack Sparrow lucky with serious Zorro like skill. But if he was fighting my man "The Lion Heart" the knight wins every time
@@captaincaterpie The blunderbuss did, but it misfired twice if I recall. So the flintlock lacked accuracy and couldn't penetrate, and the blunderbuss could penetrate the armor, but only when it _actually_ fired, and it still had accuracy issues. Yeah, I loved Deadliest Warrior as a kid, but that battle definitely made me question the team's logic.
Also, I haven’t stopped laughing about the “Barry honed his sword skills during his 8 years as a green beret...” line! I mean really? As a veteran myself, I am extremely confused. I must have missed “sword training” when I was at Ft. Benning?.??
People who don’t base their historical knowledge on movies absolutely do talk about them. Even with the back up they still nearly broke the monstrously huge Persian advance which is a major achievement with only a few thousand troops.
The "computer simulation" always makes me laugh. They show you this intense scene of people fighting, but you know the simulation is just a bunch of text on a screen.
@Alf Gwahigain It actually ran a bunch of scenarios that were basically a match in a Combat Mission title, then spit the data out. Which I always thought was cool. I recall the actual data for what was essentially a modified version of the games engine was floating around, but since it wasn't compatible with much of anything, it all just ended up being lost to time.
Another imbalance would be that ninjas were still a thing well into the 1600's while Sparta's decline started long before they were conquered by Rome around 200BC. Ninjas were had explosives and were occasionally using guns. A ninja would do whatever for the upper hand and that sure af includes bringing a gun & explosives to a sword fight. Like you pointed out, they had completely different styles. Spartans were strong head-on warriors, while ninjas used stealth for spywork and assassinations for their clan or some feudal lord.
Well master of hit and run until they pissed off the wrong Samurai Clan, got locked in their own hideout and set on fire from outside. Besides not like the Ninjas did not occasionally have stand up fights and it's not like the Spartans did not practice A-Semtric Warfare at one point or another. What actually happened to the Ninjas vs. Spartan complacency and decline aside, I do agree the Ninja definitely has an advantage being that they from centuries in the future and would probably win due to such.
Ninjas are also trained to be deadly with hand to hand. They are just like trained assassins I would say possess any close range skill a spartan would have. Spartans mostly trained in formation fighting which makes them better in battles than one on one a ninja is trained efficiently in 1v1 and they don’t mention ninja schools lol I guess they forgot they are taken as kids and trained too
I just love that they got everything wrong about ninja. Just everything. The clothes, the weapons, everything. It makes me laugh every time. Clearly these guys went to the Ashida Kim school of being a ninja. A master of subterfuge, espionage, and assassination would MOST CERTAINLY run around with a very distinct sword that translates to … “ninja’s sword”. Pull the other one
"Hey what would happen if we pitted pure testosterone wrapped in bronze against an expert in subterfuge, infiltration, and assassination but didn't let them do any of that" The stereotypes were strong in this episode
Always what i though when watching this episode! Like when they slam the weapon against the bronze armor and I’m just saying in my head “um i think a ninja would just go for the exposed neck rather than slam it into they’re bronze chest armor”
The part where he somehow recovered from both his eyes being shredded by glass powder was also a really cheap way to hand-wave something that should've set him up for the kill
The ninja tried to be stealthy and got caught. And the last thing a ninja wants is to be seen, because up against a real Soldier such as a samurai or Spartan they can't hope to win once they have their eyes on them.
@@liamulrich5274 - I'll tell you to your face weenie! I'm in the U.S. and where there's a will, there's a way. Let me know but I don't expect a Oscar Meyer like yourself to man up. 😆
The "his entire training was to make him hard" was partially true. The amount of sexual dominance done in the Spartan and tbh all Greek militaries was crazy.
@@chosengod5943 And during slave transport they were raping women and children and sodomizing the men. So again those BackDoorian activities came from Europe.
I love how in the simulation the Spartan just basically walked off having a Huge amount of glass thrown in his eyes, So you're telling me that glass is just going to go in your eyes cut Your eyes to Kingdom Come possibly causing permanent blindness and you just walk that s*** off
I know you said this is the last video... but you should REALLY cover the mafia vs yakuza episode because the experts in that episode bicker so much that one of the experts LITERALLY THREATENS one of the other experts with one of the weapons. Like. It was pure childlike bickering. Please cover that one. Otherwise great episode like always Chris lol
literally one of the most biased comparisons I've ever seen. In the end they somehow had the mafia baseball bat beat a Yakuza katana. Even though it lost the head to head weapon test it still somehow won in the end. A bat beat a sword, chew on that for a minute lol.
One thing that always bothered me about this episode is that if the ninja nails you with that egg and you have shattered glass in your eyes, it's over. It's not a killshot itself, but would lead to a kill almost every time. They really understated its potential.
I hated this episode the most back in the day, mostly because I remember watching their behind the scenes/discussion episode covering this and they admitted to not factoring in stealth because of unfair advantages. Like, that's the ninja's whole thing you can't just not factor it in!
Honestly, they're two completely opposite combat styles. One is designed for side-by-side large scale battles while the other guy is a glorified spy. It's like Rambo vs James Bond.
@@GuerrillaGorilla023 Rambo vs James Bond is still more on par than this. The biggest travesty was Jesse James v. Al Capone. Sure they both had guns, but the gap in technology is astonishing.
If they were accurate then this wouldn't of been an episode. Shinobi generally weren't warriors or assassins. They were scouts and spies. They blended in and gave intel or were used for sabotage.
@@raimarulightningtbf, there is a reason Great Britain had an easy time against the Zulu’s and in India, but had to get a coalition of 4 European powers to defeat France just once, but yeah that green beret was acting like ninjas are cavemen
Came looking for this comment. The Yakuza guy almost coming to blows with the Italian dude over some hypothetical death battle was one of the most uncomfortable scenes in the show for me
The big problem with this episode is the fact that Spartan would fight in broad daylight just like a samurai, they face their opponent at midday in the middle of a battlefield. The ninja come at you in the middle of the night while their opponent is sleeping. They both have two different methods of attack. Which is ironic because the green beret would fight more like a ninja than a spartan. He would use night vision and a suppressor to come at his enemy/target in the middle of the night. Eliminating an enemy before they realized what was happening.
Also one of the most famous ninja was known for essentially sniping people from the tops of trees with a huge musket and had iron "karuta" or "kusari" armor
But they have to keep the fight fair for both sides and that’s why although they were in broad daylight they added some things in the environment like the tall grass that would favor the ninja
Reminder that majority of ninjas were mere scouts with no special skills or training, literally peasants. Ones that did carry out these missions were samurais themselves or their retinue. Besides ninjatos did not exist, its a novel came with romantisizing ninjas. Show is hilariously silly with many unchecked media myths
I remember watching this as a kid and basically being like. It’s not really a fair comparison. You have what is essentially an infantryman and a spy going head to head. If a Ninja was actually doing his job properly, ideally he would kill the spartan before he even knew he was there.
The show isn't "Deadliest Assassin" it's "Deadliest Warrior." The entire point of the show is for two warriors to fight head to head. If you want to have a separate discussion that's more than all right. But it was never the point of this show.
@snangoboman2111 Europeans were tall and muscular, Japanese re small and thin, sure there were some, more muscular and slightly taller But in hand to hand the tall muscular guy wins Unless you play unfair, and blind him with dust glass or pepper, Cut his achilles tendons, so he doesn't walk The ninja were stealth Also ninjas were still used in the 1600, wich means if they brought a gun and explosives, they would won. Other then that Spartan are the true warriors.
With the over saturation of commentary channels, it's nice to get deadpan instead of exaggerated animated shouting. Plus, he seems like a genuinely cool dude, and much like when I see my friends' projects, whether music, videography, photography, whatever, thrive; to think it wasn't long ago he had that yellow background profile pic w/o the check.
I just remember the Pirate vs. Knight episode that was already an incredibly stupid matchup. It basically boiled down to "Pirates have guns so they win".
That's pretty accurate, as far as I know. What frustrated me was why they'd bother pitting someone with firearms against someone without them. I believe they divided the categories along those lines the following season.
@@raimarulightningwhat movie was it where they brought a blunderbuss for backup and some medieval breastplate for protection? Probably what inspired it.
This episode is seared into my mind. I will never forget how my family would make predictions at the beginning of the episode, and I was filled with such pride calling the spartan victory.
@@HoxMouse It was definitely a pairing that didn’t fit, like “Today’s matchup features 5 expertly trained and heavily armed Navy Seals, going up against 3 literal toddlers! Let’s see how it pans out!”
The spartans are some of the most over hyped warriors in human history. They were a couple strokes better than par at their height; and then their hegemony was completely and utterly broke by the invention of basic fucking battle tactics. I don’t mean to diminish the brilliance of Epaminondas but the fact that all it took to break the power of the Sparta forever was “What if we staggered are troops diagonally and concentrated our cavalry and best soldiers on the left flank so our best soldiers are fighting Sparta’s best soldiers and our cavalry can more easily flank the enemy line.” That’s it that’s all it took to reduce Sparta to a backwater province that wasn’t even worth the effort it would take to conquer it. Like y’all have heard the famous story where Philip II said “If I invade Laconia, I shall turn you out” and the Spartans simply responded “If.” Well that story ended with Philip II kicking their fucking asses. Edit: Also that Spartan guy is just straight up racist.
Wait, you’re telling me THE Slytherin Studios made the Deadliest Warrior computer program? I take it all back! Everything in this show is completely accurate!
The biggest injustice in the show was done to the knight in season 1. Knight fought pirate and lost because pirate has guns, the pirate was even listed as a “modern warrior” in the finale.
The knight would have never lost so they had to get him out of there. There was no other ancient warrior who could have beaten him, because he had the best armor and armor penetrating weapons
This episode really showed that cracks in the show for a younger me. Especially with the black eggs. Like, it's supposed to incapacitate a person, but since it doesn't penetrate, bleed or whatever, there's no model in the spreadsheet.
Not true, you can admit and recognize when somebody is superior to you. But that accountability can be an advantage if I don’t know what my weaknesses are I won’t know to lean towards my strengths. As he said in the video “the spartan may win right now but the ninja will just run away and come back at night when he’s sleep”. Ninja recognizes this guy is bigger stronger and has on armor I can’t win head to head combat but I can use strategy to avoid as much conflict as possible
Crazy Fact: Part of the training required to become a Spartan was they had to sneak out and kill a slave without getting caught. It would've been more fascinating if we saw the simulation done from a stealth perspective. A Spartan and a Ninja trying to outwit each other in the shadows.
Tbh yeah , that could be an awsome comic idea : a spartan with his breast plate and spear trying to suss out a ninja coming for him ... It would be pretty awsome ... Honestly this show and death battle made me realize a thing : ofthen times the more intresting part of a fight is the two caracters in it , So really it would be intresting to have a comic remake that tries to have a more caracter focused go at the match ups , Like what would each of them be thinking during that confrontation ? Why would they be in that situation ? Like i am honestly getting some ideas about this : The ira and talibans are just placed there in a suicide squad gladiatorial match up type of thing by the joined governament of the UK and the US for entratainment purposes , like how the romans had gladiatorial matches with guys from defeated armies ... The pirate fled from his sunken ship , managing to save his treasure , only to pass out on a french beach , There a small local knight that takes defending his land holding from britons invadors , tries to take him out as he tries to use his limited knowledge on how to make gunpowder and survival to outrun his problem , while the knight is faced with the problem that his serfs don't trust him at all ... A samurai is facing against the mercenaries the koreans have hired in the high seas , the vikings are tired from rowing all the way from iceland but they know how to fight on a shaking boat ... The pakistan civil war actually broke out , the nuclear exchange between the US and the USSR has wiped a sizable chunk of humanity , but armies aren't stopping , no less special forces : a group of green berres and speznaz are tasked to secure the same bunker in yugoslavia , how much are these soldiers different ? How much are they willing to do to get what they want ? Do they even know what they are fighting for at this point ? And so on
yeah even as a greek i call bullshit on that i mean the best he can is use his opponents footsteps to at least locate him and protect himself but i also call bullshit on the ninja managing to blow the glass bomb on the spartans face because the spartan wouldn't let the ninja get the chance he would had already slash at the ninja either landing a hit or at least keep him at a distance also even if he somehow get the glass bomb thrown at his face without his shield stopping it he can still move his head or use the side of the helmet to deflect the shards not to mention the spartan wouldn't just mindlessly chase the ninja he would keep a optimal striking distance where he can both attack and defend/counter any attempt to get his defense bypassed
@petrospago3515 ninjas were trained to move silently and stealthily its highly unlikely for anyone to hear a ninja approaching cuz they worn specialized clothing and outfit and also their shoes are like as quiet as can be
Does the Spartan guy not know what a Samurai is? The ninja weren’t fighting "naked savages," they were fighting warriors even more armored than the spartans, and WON.
They didn't actively fight samurai in most cases, they were spies and assassins they rarely fought against samurai this is a western perception of them, if you are in a castle trying to assassinate someone and a samurai or bushi sees you first thing he is going to do is sound the alarm so your best odds are to get the hell out before you are swarmed you aren't gonna try and fight a fully armored and some of the most well trained warriors the world has known he has the ninja on so many levels armor, superior weapons and better reach and is likely more proficient at martial prowess he has been practicing with that sword, spear and bow since he was like six years old this is not someone you want to mess with hence why the ninja used stealth not direct conflict.
And i love the outdated knowledge of the ninja they have probably previous to the translation of the bansenshukai became a more common book It's essentially a 90's movie ninja fighting a half decent spartan
The king Henry episode vs Shaka Zulu made me really uncomfortable when the Shaka Zulu expert started throwing a fit when king Henry started winning. And he said his war cry was num num, num num. and he acted like it was the most terrifying battle cry ever it was fucking embarrassing 😂
The reason i felt these guys were so edgy towards each other is they have some lineage tied to the warrior they're representing. I always got a sense of underlying prejudice on this show.
More likely, they either think or want to have some lineage tied to the warrior they're representing. I seriously doubt they have any real lineage to any of it.
@@raimarulightningFeudal Japan wasn't known for their globalist inclusive approach to outsiders either. Acting like every civilization on the planet were borderless hippies and the Spartans were the only civilization that strongly valued nationalism and isolation.
This is what your FACE would look like if you had the never endings of a BLOODHOUND *Green human with a nose the size of a building stumbles on screen*
I love in the simulation that it starts with the ninja, in a tree and behind the spartan. Why wasn't the whole battle a poison dart then him searching the ancient worlds equivalent of Yelp to figure out dinner plans?
That and at the beginning when the ninja jumps out of the tree and sneaks up on the spartan the ninja literally yells announcing his presence lol. Like fuck off a ninja would never yell before his attack especially when sneaking up on an enemy he clearly had no idea he was behind him.
The only thing that really bugged me about this match up was they gave the ninja a handicap with the Shurikens (which weren't even use or meant to kill), blow darts and black eggs. That's not even adding in the factor that ninjas used explosives and guns but that obviously would have made the match completely one sided
I sneezed when he threw the sand, love how interactive your videos are! Also the sound you made when describing the dummies is now living in my head forever, many thanks
The program they used from slitherin studios is the video game form of a table top strategy game. They might as well have made d&d character sheets based on the combatants
This episode is buried in my mind. Both because the ninja experts were crazy, but also the black egg. The doctor was like "oh he'd be blind" then saw the "simulation", the egg did nothing and got no kills.
Nah the Spartan 'experts' were crazy, Ninja experts just tried to emphasize what a ninja is. That bit about ninja running away and killing someone in their sleep is 100 percent accurate. They were basically peasant spies improvising ambushes the majority of the time.
@@Nefariousbig Most ninja were samurai, not that ashigaru couldn't become shinobi, but to my understanding the majority of the time a shinobi was a samurai with unique duties more related to espionage. You say the bit about the ninja running away and killing somebody in their sleep is 100% accurate, the problem with that statement is that there's no evidence shinobi were ever involved with assassination. You can't really prove or disprove that ninja ever performed assassinations, but what is for certain is that it wasn't a focus nor anywhere near their main duties.
@@jacobdonnely2608 it's less about their proclivity to assasinate and more about the nature of the confrontations they would be involved in. They were not head-on shielded warriors like the Spartans, they chose to strike at the opportune moment to take down a more heavily armed opponent. Maybe they wouldn't literally always come back and kill people in their sleep, but evade and try and catch them unawares? Absolutely.
@@jacobdonnely2608 weren't ninjas mostly just farmers that fought back any way they could? And the ninja we came to know is mostly myth and fairy tales. Or I misremember and ninjas were, more professional and hiding among peasants. Anyway, the reason why a lot of stereotypical ninja weapons look like farm tools, is because they 100% were. The reason being that peasants weren't allowed weapons so they had to improvise. The Kama is a scythe, the Kunai is a trowel, etc. Their signature look is also just farm clothes.
I always thought a "real" ninja was more "get a job at the castle in the kitchen and slip in mushrooms in your bento that cause you to poop yourself to death" more than "sneak in stab, get caught, solo the castle to have a battle with Lord Karasumaru where you win with smoke bombs, then stealth out."
I think the funniest thing about this episode is that, iirc, the ninja did not exist as was shown in this episode, hell, the ninjato sword's earliest confirmed appearance was 1956! The Spartan was effectively fighting a fictional character
And that stupid outfit that'd most likely only have been worn as part of a night-infiltration, so the fact it's not a 'night invasion fight' instead was baffling to me. Ninja using that natural camoflage-style dressup against the Spartan and thus also making that egg a lot more useful since it'd be even harder to see it.
Put this fight in the dark and see what the spartan can do when the ninja is attacking out of no where during the dark. Ninja has thousands of options to easily kill their opponents. Explosives, poison, stabbings, etc. The ninja didn't need to work extra hard on a confrontation
@@koreancowboy42 You realize the vast majority of historical ninjas were neither killers nor even fighters right? most were simply spies who hid in plain sight in roles such as servants or travelling monks, their goal was to observe and report.
@@kinagrill Historically they didn't even were black, they wore dark blue as before modern light pollution that was the color best suited for blending in with the night sky.
It's always funny when the guy reacts to his warrior being attacked with, for instance, broken glass in the eyes... "Yeah, I mean broken glass on the cornea....that COULD slow him down, A LITTLE" Just shrugging off whatever it was , no matter what it was.
I love your videos on this show. Only so much you can do w/ a fixed number of episodes but so few creators actually make content about DW. It’s a crime. Please make more lol
I watched this episode when it originally aired. And it is, for me, the most iconic episode. And not in a good way. Shit will be burnt into my memory forever. Its like every major issue with the series boiled down into one episode. And its so funny that they seemed to think it was their best work, considering it was a major part of the advertising as well as the hoplite helmet inside a shuriken being their literal logo.
It kinda reminds of D&D ...they have some real objects, they have titles, they have costumes some of them want to wear, but when it comes to the actual game play or action - they just sit there describing their moves, then the opponent describes how he would get out of it, and then they decide who wins. It's awkward.
While I wasn’t in a SOF group I was with the 10th Mountain who deployed twice and don’t recall ever being issued a short sword so I guess I’m confused on how he honed his skills with a sword as a green beret for 10 years…
I was thinking that same thing. Like i know some military knives are pretty big for knives but like, what does being a green beret have to do with knowing how to use a sword designed over 2000 years ago
Barry is also a military historian which is why he was there mostly. He has a thing for the Spartans. If you watch the aftershow for the episode they talked about it.
It looks in some scenes like they just found a deserted barn in the middle of no where and some friends got together and decided to LARP around. (Especially the scene where the guy gets all the Roman costume on , where you said "you know he just willingly put all that on.") I feel like they had a lot of breaks and there's this one guy who kept trying to wear all the costume (cuz that would be me ). They couldn't get him to take it off until they promised to video it for him.
It always confuses me when this kind of show puts a class of fighter known for face-to-face combat against one known for ambush or guerilla tactics against each other, because, like, whoever wins in that is honestly going to depend more on the context of the situation. Hell, the concept of the show is pretty flawed for the sheer fact that individual skill is probably going to matter more in a fight than outright fighting style and weapon loadout.
Yeah, and he did use ambush tactics...but a ninja/shinobi wouldn't have attacked him in broad daylight...for sure. More than likely would've just shot him in the eye with a bow from 50 yards away in a tree lol.
Most people are saying that Ninjas specialize in assassination and subterfuge etc but it really depends on the setting. The reason Sparta was so isolated and difficult to invade was because they were surrounded by treacherous mountains, if Ninjas had tried doing anything in Sparta they’d have trouble getting in let alone getting out. However? If you flip the script and put the ninjas in a guerilla war against Spartans in Japan I still think the Spartans win since well ninjas lost to the samurai for the same reason. I don’t think there’s a single setting you can put these two factions in and have ninjas coming out on top, they were just peasants given basic cheap weapons and some training to rebel against the government.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow right plus you're protected enough at the head anyways so turning your head to look wouldn't be that much a of deal, especially for a Spartan
Humorous as the "experts" are, I do agree with the results here. In an open fight, the Spartan probably does win, though not easily. But the Ninja expert has a point too, any "Ninja" worth their salt is going to avoid such a fight, and go with the nighttime ambush. Its one of the show's weaknesses imo. For all their "research", they still always have a basic issue with taking the warriors out their preferred fighting context.
Spike TV doctors tend to be extremely unnecessary, but I like them in the "thank you Doctor Obvious" sense. Sure, they aren't truly needed but it's always got a chuckle out of me seeing their reactions.
I remember watching this as a kid and even thinking back then that the pairing and the fight itself was so strangely one sided. A ninja wouldn't fight head on like they did in the "simulation" , like they didn't even factor in that they were stealth fighters, a ninja certainly wouldn't pick a fight with a heavily armored opponent in midday like that. Like I swear Barry threatened to have his Green Beret buddies raid their houses if the Spartan didn't win so they completely removed the Ninja's most vital weapons.
Not to mention that glass in the eyes really does effect your ability to use them, so even going off of what happened in the fight, the spartan would've lost, because y'know, blind
"Barry honed his sword skills from 8 years in the Green Berets" I didn't realize that special forces trained with swords, talk about unconventional warfare.
I love the "you can't cut through this" example with the armor but there's the whole gap under the arm right to the heart 😂 same with the dart and the armor whole arms exposed so the poison dart would cause problems
@@kinagrill they also may have forgotten to mention that a ninja wouldn't take on an enemy like this head on they should have said that "the ninja would've run away and come back to kill him in his sleep"
The random guy looking at the trauma was fucking hilarious!!! This was one of my favorite shows growing up like top 3 and you have definitely brought the memories flooding back and yea I'm drowning in this goofy ass nostalgia!
I remember even way younger this episode was the worst. The way they calculated who would win is simulating battles with only one weapon each and seeing who won. And since the black egg was never meant to KILL it lost hard to the shield and that basically lost the ninja the battle alone
My buddies and I used to laugh our asses off watching this. Hell, we'd get in fits of laughter just remembering it and quoting it. This episode was the pinnacle. Everything about it.
The amount of historical inaccuracies in this episode is wild. They claimed ninja and samurai were mortal enemies which couldn't possibly be any further from the truth.
Genuinely one of my favorite videos you've done so far; made me laugh out loud several times! And idk man, I think Deadliest Warrior is a goldmine of content... The William Wallace Vs. Shaka Zulu episode, for instance, is another great one ⚔
@@gloomykasumi8580 right. For chris to even say the words "i should do every episode in order" is a Great sign tbh. Idk if u ever saw moonshiners but i would love to see him do a few episodes of that. Tbh no matter what it is i would watch it
"Hey Ninja, get a look at this!" "My name is Jeremy."
As i flash my jellybean
My name....is also....Jeremy. 😂😂😂😂
Another Jeremy here
@@jeremyspierling5268 hello fellow Jeremy. Let us put together an assembly of Jeremy's to rival all others.
@@JThaDon910 Thus my name is Isaac... may I still join the Jeremy brotherhood?
The unhinged energy of the ninja expert saying "the spartan may win face to face, but the ninja would just run away and come back at night when the spartan is sleeping" has stuck with me for like 15 years
Same here.
I will always strike at night if I need to strike what's unhinged about that
If it's day time face to face I'd say hey look what's that then I'd kick them in the balls while I punch em with my left hand works half the time 😉
same. this is the episode that pissed me off more than any other lol. the spartan would never even SEE the ninja if the ninja wanted to kill him. js.
Maximum level cope.
"Ah yeah but spartans were used to pain" My brother in christ, glass shards to the eye won't just hurt, they'll blind you too. It isn't just a big ouchie, it's an Omega Ouchie with a status debuff.
So that’s a plus 6 damage into the high tech computer?
@@amiwrongaboutsports very likely, give or take 1 point, factoring in weather conditions affecting the throwing of the egg.
@@EpicWinNoob 😂😂😂
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I'd still put money on a spartan soldier to win against a ninja. That being said, yeah, glass in eyes would definitely be a pain unlike no other.
I love how they treat glass shards in your eye as something that can be shrugged off in 3 seconds when it would permanently ruin your vision as well as cause immense pain.
"Permanently" is to be read here as "for the rest of your life, which is about six seconds"
Yeah I have been sprayed with pepper spray just to see what it was like same with a taser, let me tell you if you ever get sprayed with pepper spray and you are in a life or death situation you are gonna lose that fight.
Fun fact, the narrator for deadliest warrior is David Wenham, who is also the narrator and eye patch guy in the movie 300
Also Faramier
Faramir from Lotr series.
I always knew he sounded familiar.
Friar Carl
@@omgnumbers9944 "well actually I'm just a friar.... damnit"
The look of pure hate in the ninjas eyes when that guy put his hands on his shoulders was worth the whole episode lol
the sheer disrespect, you know he contemplated swinging on him lol
seriously though the spartan "experts" were massive dicks in this episode, idk how anyone put up with them, the "ninjas" were kinda immature and goofy but the spartan douchbags were just straight up high school bullies
and is no-one gonna mention how the one dude claims to have learned to use a sword in his special forces training? because....yeah, that's totally something they teach in the modern military how to swing a fucking xiphos sword.... i call bullshit lol
I wouldn't condescend to a guy with a sword in his hands.... Personally.
He looked ready to kill a spartan
I KNOW RIGHT LMFAO
I cannot stop laughing
@user-mm5mm3ol7f Definitely bull shit. Combat Knife maybe, but a sword? Lol. Also most spec op guys I met were very mature. These guys act like dumb jocks
spartans being a bully is actually historically accurate. it has to have been on purpose as a little nod.
What I love is how the ER doctor HAS to have his lab coat on to show he's a real Dr
Unnecessary as hell.. We can just look him up to know he's the real deal..
And the software guy HAS to have the professional trenchcoat on. You know...so we know he's the techie guy.
And Doctor Beverly Crusher “had” to have her lab coat on so that we would know she was the doctor.
always on court drama shows if a doctor is testifying, they always are wearing a stethoscope
😂😂
I truly love the Spartan side talking about how tough the Spartans are, that they'd just kind of shake off getting powdered glass in their eyes and then they put that in the simulation. These people are so deep in their fantasies that they believe their team are a bunch of super heroes. I got a tiny cut on my eye when I was a kid, and I could barely open that eye and had to wear an eye patch. But yeah, glass and pepper? Just walk it off.
3 second rule apparently lol
I got my nose broke and I couldn’t see. Didn’t even touch my eyes.
A stray balloon string cut my mother's eye and she needed surgery to see out it again...
Just the power glass would cause blindness and crazy amounts of pain. It might not kill you, but you're not a threat anymore
@@absolutez3r019 would 100% kill you if you are a warrior on a battlefield. Imagine walking into one of your dead ally's spear, or getting home and being killed because you are a burden to the Sparta! Not to mention infection so close to the brain, imagine if someone put poison or venom powder in that. You dead. It might not be immediate, but you going to die.
I remember this being the episode that made me stop watching this show. I don’t care how absolutely monstrous you are physically. Glass in your eye’s would just be the end.
Right like oh let me shake my head around for three seconds and suddenly I can see again. Lol
The reenactment isn’t a representation of the computer battle 🤣 shield vs egg…think about it
Of only there was some way of preventing stuff getting in your eyes.
I'm sitting here blinking in confusion trying to think of a method to prevent glass in eyes.
Seriously I have been squinting so hard staring at these books trying to find a historical method to not get pocketsand in eyes.
@@richardharding7767 bro thinks squinting and blinking would protect micro pieces of glass from getting into his eyes💀 ur like beyond stupid
Wasnt this like the 3rd episode or something 😅
Tbh that broken glass egg thing is a pretty terrifying weapon
Yeah but like most of the ninjas tools it was designed to buy time to run away as historically ninjas avoided direct combat as they nearly always lost.
I had fiberglass shards go in my eyes. It was one of the most painful traumatizing experiences.
@@therealshino4607 I know the feeling I had a 3mm sliver of metal from walking by a pipe threader. I got lucky it was steel, and it got taken out with a magnet, still hurt like hell.
@@p_campbell ouch. The black egg would make me flee strstegically
@@rjohnson2813 they didn’t ‘avoid’ combat it simply wasn’t their job, they were spies, saboteurs, and assasins, they literally would rarely if ever be near a battlefield
I like how the javelin was intended to be the long range weapon, yet he threw it at the dummy from about 5 feet away
Because Barry sucks
Spears are very hard to throw. Typically, Spartans would carry one to throw, and their slave would carry extras. The Spartans would throw thm from a few meters away as they charged, and would get another when they were cycled out to rest.
@@coolbeans3390 so in a weird way, Spartans were golfers back in the day. And their slaves were their caddies?
@@bizlatttingz that's hilarious Ive never thought about it that way, but that's literally exactly what's happening.
Most Greek army’s at the time consisted of Hoplites and fought in phalanxes. Skirmishers we’re thought to first have been used my the city states of Thrace where their Javelins were used to break up the cohesion of an enemy phalanx allowing their own to gain the advantage and route them.
Javelins aren’t “hard” to throw at all, they are however hard to throw effectively at long range, similar to how the English longbow man had to train to be effective, the Thracians did too.
Those eggs filled with ground glass are not just going to cause the immobile Spartan pain, they are going to blind him.
and the spear would kill either, death is much more effective than blinding and spears are much easier to hit, honestly if this happened both would bring spears, and the spartan would likely win cause of armor
@@jestawellwhat I don’t get is how can we justify who would win because ninja weren’t fight in the front line that kind of defeats the whole purpose of a ninja and what year because ninja had explosive and smoke depending on the year since ninja were also during the gunpowder era where as spartan era ended way back than so putting a first gen ninja vs prime Sparta …
Yup. The only real question is if the ninja could blind the Spartan before being hit by their spear. You can’t fight if you can’t fucking see
@@k-master973 so a spear would be a grenade …
The only time the egg trick is going to work is in a sneak attack, and you better hope it's not a windy day 😂
My favorite episode of this was “Pirate vs Knight.” None of the pirate’s weapons were effective against the Knight’s armor, but the pirate still won because, “the pirate has gun and gunpowder means knight is outdated.”
My friend and I watched that episode together. My friend said the pirate would win if he shot the knight through the opening in the helmet which he called the 'facehole'.. we found that phrase so funny. 'Right in the ole face hole"
@@sunofpeter2 he'd have to be fucking point blank. Flintlocks weren't renowned for their accuracy.
@@Thor-Orion yeah I think our scenario was he would have to engage in melee combat then draw his pistol at the right moment and pow! Right in the face hole! The pirate would probably have to Jack Sparrow lucky with serious Zorro like skill. But if he was fighting my man "The Lion Heart" the knight wins every time
im pretty sure one of the pirates guns did in fact penetrate the knights armor.
@@captaincaterpie The blunderbuss did, but it misfired twice if I recall. So the flintlock lacked accuracy and couldn't penetrate, and the blunderbuss could penetrate the armor, but only when it _actually_ fired, and it still had accuracy issues. Yeah, I loved Deadliest Warrior as a kid, but that battle definitely made me question the team's logic.
Also, I haven’t stopped laughing about the “Barry honed his sword skills during his 8 years as a green beret...” line! I mean really? As a veteran myself, I am extremely confused. I must have missed “sword training” when I was at Ft. Benning?.??
Yeah you probably just missed it, everyone else went
lol day 1 stuff on sand hill buddy where were you? what a pogue
They did, is just that they never invited you because you're no Spartan enough
Damnit… I got fucked over then huh? Seeing as swords are the most advanced weapon platform available today, I feel terribly antiquated.
While you were wasting time learning warrior tasks and battle drills, I studied the blade
Ah yes the battle of Thermopylae, and it's 300 Spartans... and 700 Thespains, 900 Helots and 400 Thebans, but we don't talk about them.
Well……it is still a battle which is impossible to win.
Yeah, but the Thespian, and Thebans and helots are lame bitches, so history doesn’t remember them.
And the Athenian navy as well.
People who don’t base their historical knowledge on movies absolutely do talk about them. Even with the back up they still nearly broke the monstrously huge Persian advance which is a major achievement with only a few thousand troops.
That’s still 2300 v 500K
The "computer simulation" always makes me laugh. They show you this intense scene of people fighting, but you know the simulation is just a bunch of text on a screen.
The simulation is just what they decided to film 😭😭
Yes, the program that took 5 years to develop looks like a spreadsheet.
@Alf Gwahigain It actually ran a bunch of scenarios that were basically a match in a Combat Mission title, then spit the data out. Which I always thought was cool. I recall the actual data for what was essentially a modified version of the games engine was floating around, but since it wasn't compatible with much of anything, it all just ended up being lost to time.
The computer simulation was a fuckin' RTS
The computer simulation is just some dude entering numbers onto an excel sheet. I bet it doesn’t even calculate one single thing
Spartan vs ninja would be so unbalanced. The master of confrontational combat vs the master of hit and run.
Another imbalance would be that ninjas were still a thing well into the 1600's while Sparta's decline started long before they were conquered by Rome around 200BC.
Ninjas were had explosives and were occasionally using guns. A ninja would do whatever for the upper hand and that sure af includes bringing a gun & explosives to a sword fight.
Like you pointed out, they had completely different styles. Spartans were strong head-on warriors, while ninjas used stealth for spywork and assassinations for their clan or some feudal lord.
Well master of hit and run until they pissed off the wrong Samurai Clan, got locked in their own hideout and set on fire from outside. Besides not like the Ninjas did not occasionally have stand up fights and it's not like the Spartans did not practice A-Semtric Warfare at one point or another.
What actually happened to the Ninjas vs. Spartan complacency and decline aside, I do agree the Ninja definitely has an advantage being that they from centuries in the future and would probably win due to such.
@@nillabeany they used a lot of guns and explosives
Ninjas are also trained to be deadly with hand to hand. They are just like trained assassins I would say possess any close range skill a spartan would have.
Spartans mostly trained in formation fighting which makes them better in battles than one on one a ninja is trained efficiently in 1v1 and they don’t mention ninja schools lol I guess they forgot they are taken as kids and trained too
@@alnu8355 asymetrical
I just love that they got everything wrong about ninja. Just everything. The clothes, the weapons, everything. It makes me laugh every time. Clearly these guys went to the Ashida Kim school of being a ninja.
A master of subterfuge, espionage, and assassination would MOST CERTAINLY run around with a very distinct sword that translates to … “ninja’s sword”. Pull the other one
"Hey what would happen if we pitted pure testosterone wrapped in bronze against an expert in subterfuge, infiltration, and assassination but didn't let them do any of that"
The stereotypes were strong in this episode
Always what i though when watching this episode! Like when they slam the weapon against the bronze armor and I’m just saying in my head “um i think a ninja would just go for the exposed neck rather than slam it into they’re bronze chest armor”
Seriously. This episode seemed weighted to the spartan side
Bronze armor vs steel sword, jesus christ, what were they thinking?
The part where he somehow recovered from both his eyes being shredded by glass powder was also a really cheap way to hand-wave something that should've set him up for the kill
The ninja tried to be stealthy and got caught. And the last thing a ninja wants is to be seen, because up against a real Soldier such as a samurai or Spartan they can't hope to win once they have their eyes on them.
Dude spends 8 years as a green beret, and THAT'S where he learned sword fighting. Right...
@@AIopekis yeah, I've heard they spend more time sword fighting than shooting on a range
@@AIopekis pure unadulterated sword lmao
Laser swords
People do have hobbies Gen Z weenie! You do know that they have off time especially if they're not overseas. Dum8 dum8!
@@liamulrich5274 - I'll tell you to your face weenie! I'm in the U.S. and where there's a will, there's a way. Let me know but I don't expect a Oscar Meyer like yourself to man up. 😆
The "his entire training was to make him hard" was partially true. The amount of sexual dominance done in the Spartan and tbh all Greek militaries was crazy.
Yea that cheek smashing came from them no doubt
Africans are openly gay and into incest
Africans are openly gay and into incest
@@chosengod5943 And during slave transport they were raping women and children and sodomizing the men. So again those BackDoorian activities came from Europe.
@@chosengod5943 You go ahead to Africa on that bullshit and see how "Open" they are, go check out Pastor Sempa lmao
I love how in the simulation the Spartan just basically walked off having a Huge amount of glass thrown in his eyes, So you're telling me that glass is just going to go in your eyes cut Your eyes to Kingdom Come possibly causing permanent blindness and you just walk that s*** off
You dont understand... spartans were used to pain.
@@gronkydonkey4735 and to blindness aswell
Sky net.
@@velazquezarmouries echolocation is a basic skill all Spartans have
@@VegaSlides LOL
I know you said this is the last video... but you should REALLY cover the mafia vs yakuza episode because the experts in that episode bicker so much that one of the experts LITERALLY THREATENS one of the other experts with one of the weapons. Like. It was pure childlike bickering. Please cover that one. Otherwise great episode like always Chris lol
Yes. I still remember that after like 14 years.
Yes! When the guy like, pushes the yakuza guy out of the way and goes to town on the dummy he was cutting up, it's so fucking funny
thisd would be content, gorilla approved
And the zombie episode where the guy got so defensive 😵💫😵💫😵💫
literally one of the most biased comparisons I've ever seen. In the end they somehow had the mafia baseball bat beat a Yakuza katana. Even though it lost the head to head weapon test it still somehow won in the end. A bat beat a sword, chew on that for a minute lol.
One thing that always bothered me about this episode is that if the ninja nails you with that egg and you have shattered glass in your eyes, it's over. It's not a killshot itself, but would lead to a kill almost every time. They really understated its potential.
Yeah detah or surrender
But the numbers on their high tech program said no.
The Spartan shield is just too OP. The Spartan could just put it in front of his face to block the glass.
@@Abcdefg-tf7cu He wouldn't have expected it to put his shield up in time...
I hated this episode the most back in the day, mostly because I remember watching their behind the scenes/discussion episode covering this and they admitted to not factoring in stealth because of unfair advantages. Like, that's the ninja's whole thing you can't just not factor it in!
Honestly, they're two completely opposite combat styles. One is designed for side-by-side large scale battles while the other guy is a glorified spy. It's like Rambo vs James Bond.
@@GuerrillaGorilla023 Rambo vs James Bond is still more on par than this. The biggest travesty was Jesse James v. Al Capone.
Sure they both had guns, but the gap in technology is astonishing.
the viking losr to a samurai by technicality
If they were accurate then this wouldn't of been an episode. Shinobi generally weren't warriors or assassins. They were scouts and spies. They blended in and gave intel or were used for sabotage.
the spartans were trained in stealth to
Thats amazing that the whole "other people are naked savages" mentality found its way through history into this guys noggin
Yup. Just quirky little colonizer stuff
@@raimarulightningtbf, there is a reason Great Britain had an easy time against the Zulu’s and in India, but had to get a coalition of 4 European powers to defeat France just once, but yeah that green beret was acting like ninjas are cavemen
The irony, of a bronze age greej warrior, referring to a late medievel ninja or samurai as a "naked savage" is astounding.
The one I remember being the most antagonistic was the yakuza guy who straight up threatened the other guys.
In his defense, that episode was bs. No way yakuza loses to mob
Came looking for this comment.
The Yakuza guy almost coming to blows with the Italian dude over some hypothetical death battle was one of the most uncomfortable scenes in the show for me
@@imperiex4 and funny thing is, what if they did fight and Yakuza guy got laid out 😂😂😂
My 12 year old self refused to believe a yakuza with two sai would lose to some Italian with an ice pick just cause 'they were more epic'
@@Jay_Tsunami_ how so?
The big problem with this episode is the fact that Spartan would fight in broad daylight just like a samurai, they face their opponent at midday in the middle of a battlefield. The ninja come at you in the middle of the night while their opponent is sleeping. They both have two different methods of attack. Which is ironic because the green beret would fight more like a ninja than a spartan. He would use night vision and a suppressor to come at his enemy/target in the middle of the night. Eliminating an enemy before they realized what was happening.
Also one of the most famous ninja was known for essentially sniping people from the tops of trees with a huge musket and had iron "karuta" or "kusari" armor
But they have to keep the fight fair for both sides and that’s why although they were in broad daylight they added some things in the environment like the tall grass that would favor the ninja
@@TheMan-je5xq ninjas have gunpowder….. end of story
Like there’s no more talk. They have……gunpowder
Reminder that majority of ninjas were mere scouts with no special skills or training, literally peasants.
Ones that did carry out these missions were samurais themselves or their retinue.
Besides ninjatos did not exist, its a novel came with romantisizing ninjas. Show is hilariously silly with many unchecked media myths
Yeah, because ninja aren't skirmish warriors like spartans. They're spies and assassins. A more fair test would be samurai vs spartans.
I remember watching this as a kid and basically being like. It’s not really a fair comparison. You have what is essentially an infantryman and a spy going head to head. If a Ninja was actually doing his job properly, ideally he would kill the spartan before he even knew he was there.
Yeah like posioning his food and the spartan dies on the shitter before the fight
The show isn't "Deadliest Assassin" it's "Deadliest Warrior." The entire point of the show is for two warriors to fight head to head.
If you want to have a separate discussion that's more than all right. But it was never the point of this show.
A ninja isn't really a warrior, is the point.
@@erinehlerding3132 Whatever they are, they would lose to a Spartan in a fight.
@snangoboman2111
Europeans were tall and muscular, Japanese re small and thin, sure there were some, more muscular and slightly taller
But in hand to hand the tall muscular guy wins
Unless you play unfair, and blind him with dust glass or pepper,
Cut his achilles tendons, so he doesn't walk
The ninja were stealth
Also ninjas were still used in the 1600, wich means if they brought a gun and explosives, they would won.
Other then that Spartan are the true warriors.
Will never get enough of your deadpan humor in the face of nostalgic gimmicky silliness, keep it up
I've described his humor style as "low key." So "deadpan" works well, too. And no gimmicky silliness! (Check out the Babe Station)
Serving cunt perhaps 😂😂😂 I lost it
With the over saturation of commentary channels, it's nice to get deadpan instead of exaggerated animated shouting. Plus, he seems like a genuinely cool dude, and much like when I see my friends' projects, whether music, videography, photography, whatever, thrive; to think it wasn't long ago he had that yellow background profile pic w/o the check.
Can you make a video on why my dad doesn't love me
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I agree 😂😂😂😂
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@@complimentbot7015 lol lame
@@KingLee8977 how
@@complimentbot7015 dumb
I love the ninja answer to everything is "oh well we would just teleport away and never get hit by anything"
I just remember the Pirate vs. Knight episode that was already an incredibly stupid matchup. It basically boiled down to "Pirates have guns so they win".
Also the actual reason knight got phased out…
@@ASoberBearyep guns are also easy to train in compared to crossbows
That's pretty accurate, as far as I know.
What frustrated me was why they'd bother pitting someone with firearms against someone without them.
I believe they divided the categories along those lines the following season.
shoulda been pirates vs ninjas
@@raimarulightningwhat movie was it where they brought a blunderbuss for backup and some medieval breastplate for protection? Probably what inspired it.
This episode is seared into my mind. I will never forget how my family would make predictions at the beginning of the episode, and I was filled with such pride calling the spartan victory.
Relatable
Mine would do the same. It was a weekly ritual on like, Thursday night or something after we DVR'ed the episode
Idk why anyone would pick ninja over spartan, this episode pissed me off as a kid because it was such a strange unbalanced matchup lol
@@HoxMouse It was definitely a pairing that didn’t fit, like “Today’s matchup features 5 expertly trained and heavily armed Navy Seals, going up against 3 literal toddlers! Let’s see how it pans out!”
@@HoxMouse to put it simply, ninjas were not warriors, they were assassins and spies. Masters of espionage, not combat.
The spartans are some of the most over hyped warriors in human history. They were a couple strokes better than par at their height; and then their hegemony was completely and utterly broke by the invention of basic fucking battle tactics.
I don’t mean to diminish the brilliance of Epaminondas but the fact that all it took to break the power of the Sparta forever was “What if we staggered are troops diagonally and concentrated our cavalry and best soldiers on the left flank so our best soldiers are fighting Sparta’s best soldiers and our cavalry can more easily flank the enemy line.”
That’s it that’s all it took to reduce Sparta to a backwater province that wasn’t even worth the effort it would take to conquer it.
Like y’all have heard the famous story where Philip II said “If I invade Laconia, I shall turn you out” and the Spartans simply responded “If.” Well that story ended with Philip II kicking their fucking asses.
Edit: Also that Spartan guy is just straight up racist.
Wait, you’re telling me THE Slytherin Studios made the Deadliest Warrior computer program? I take it all back! Everything in this show is completely accurate!
The biggest injustice in the show was done to the knight in season 1. Knight fought pirate and lost because pirate has guns, the pirate was even listed as a “modern warrior” in the finale.
I thought they always pitted warriors with gunpowder with other warriors with gunpowder, in other words opponents were evenly matched.
Ninja vs pirate and samurai vs spartan would've been better
@@awol8065 They would do Samurai vs Spartan when they came back for season two.
@@justThisFoolsamurai wins on another show called warrior showdown
The knight would have never lost so they had to get him out of there. There was no other ancient warrior who could have beaten him, because he had the best armor and armor penetrating weapons
This episode really showed that cracks in the show for a younger me. Especially with the black eggs. Like, it's supposed to incapacitate a person, but since it doesn't penetrate, bleed or whatever, there's no model in the spreadsheet.
“Fighting better men than himself” - if you can take out someone better than you, they aren’t better than you.
fighting people who are better than you is how you get better, by learning from them
I think he meant social status though not fighting ability, lots of underlying prejudice lol
You can beat someone better than you if you cheat lol
@@TheChocolateChamp or you use the electoral college
Not true, you can admit and recognize when somebody is superior to you. But that accountability can be an advantage if I don’t know what my weaknesses are I won’t know to lean towards my strengths. As he said in the video “the spartan may win right now but the ninja will just run away and come back at night when he’s sleep”. Ninja recognizes this guy is bigger stronger and has on armor I can’t win head to head combat but I can use strategy to avoid as much conflict as possible
Crazy Fact: Part of the training required to become a Spartan was they had to sneak out and kill a slave without getting caught.
It would've been more fascinating if we saw the simulation done from a stealth perspective. A Spartan and a Ninja trying to outwit each other in the shadows.
Tbh yeah , that could be an awsome comic idea : a spartan with his breast plate and spear trying to suss out a ninja coming for him ...
It would be pretty awsome ...
Honestly this show and death battle made me realize a thing : ofthen times the more intresting part of a fight is the two caracters in it ,
So really it would be intresting to have a comic remake that tries to have a more caracter focused go at the match ups ,
Like what would each of them be thinking during that confrontation ?
Why would they be in that situation ?
Like i am honestly getting some ideas about this :
The ira and talibans are just placed there in a suicide squad gladiatorial match up type of thing by the joined governament of the UK and the US for entratainment purposes , like how the romans had gladiatorial matches with guys from defeated armies ...
The pirate fled from his sunken ship , managing to save his treasure , only to pass out on a french beach ,
There a small local knight that takes defending his land holding from britons invadors , tries to take him out as he tries to use his limited knowledge on how to make gunpowder and survival to outrun his problem , while the knight is faced with the problem that his serfs don't trust him at all ...
A samurai is facing against the mercenaries the koreans have hired in the high seas , the vikings are tired from rowing all the way from iceland but they know how to fight on a shaking boat ...
The pakistan civil war actually broke out , the nuclear exchange between the US and the USSR has wiped a sizable chunk of humanity , but armies aren't stopping , no less special forces : a group of green berres and speznaz are tasked to secure the same bunker in yugoslavia , how much are these soldiers different ? How much are they willing to do to get what they want ?
Do they even know what they are fighting for at this point ?
And so on
If they were never caught, how would anyone know they passed the test?
@@davidegaruti2582pen and paper
@@CheezMonsterCrazyprobably from the dead slave they find
@@CheezMonsterCrazy is there a dead slave?
“Barry honed his sword skills during his 8 years as a green beret.” Wut? lol. So is that why the Taliban is back in power?
As a vet of Afghan wars, the Taliban taking over, erasing my military legacy hurts, but this comment made me laugh. Hilarious
I remember that episode. It’s stupid how we’re supposed to believe a spartan is so tough that he could shrug off glass in his eyes😐.
yeah even as a greek i call bullshit on that i mean the best he can is use his opponents footsteps to at least locate him and protect himself but i also call bullshit on the ninja managing to blow the glass bomb on the spartans face because the spartan wouldn't let the ninja get the chance he would had already slash at the ninja either landing a hit or at least keep him at a distance also even if he somehow get the glass bomb thrown at his face without his shield stopping it he can still move his head or use the side of the helmet to deflect the shards not to mention the spartan wouldn't just mindlessly chase the ninja he would keep a optimal striking distance where he can both attack and defend/counter any attempt to get his defense bypassed
@@petrospago3515 -_-
@petrospago3515 ninjas were trained to move silently and stealthily its highly unlikely for anyone to hear a ninja approaching cuz they worn specialized clothing and outfit and also their shoes are like as quiet as can be
You forgot the best part. When ninja tries to ambush spartan by jumping out of a tree and yelling to give away his position
Does the Spartan guy not know what a Samurai is? The ninja weren’t fighting "naked savages," they were fighting warriors even more armored than the spartans, and WON.
They didn't actively fight samurai in most cases, they were spies and assassins they rarely fought against samurai this is a western perception of them, if you are in a castle trying to assassinate someone and a samurai or bushi sees you first thing he is going to do is sound the alarm so your best odds are to get the hell out before you are swarmed you aren't gonna try and fight a fully armored and some of the most well trained warriors the world has known he has the ninja on so many levels armor, superior weapons and better reach and is likely more proficient at martial prowess he has been practicing with that sword, spear and bow since he was like six years old this is not someone you want to mess with hence why the ninja used stealth not direct conflict.
They didn't really win against said warriors funny enough. At least not as often as you'd assume
@@Squeam9750Pop history and it's consequences...
Also reddit...
the thing I always found funny was them taking two vastly different ways of fighting for the contestants so it is almost always a one sided fight.
And i love the outdated knowledge of the ninja they have probably previous to the translation of the bansenshukai became a more common book
It's essentially a 90's movie ninja fighting a half decent spartan
Racially motivated
That’s why when I was younger I just enjoyed it for what it was🤣💯
That Spartan guy was taking this so seriously. It was genuinely funny as fuck
The king Henry episode vs Shaka Zulu made me really uncomfortable when the Shaka Zulu expert started throwing a fit when king Henry started winning. And he said his war cry was num num, num num. and he acted like it was the most terrifying battle cry ever it was fucking embarrassing 😂
It was William Wallace but yeah
The reason i felt these guys were so edgy towards each other is they have some lineage tied to the warrior they're representing. I always got a sense of underlying prejudice on this show.
More likely, they either think or want to have some lineage tied to the warrior they're representing. I seriously doubt they have any real lineage to any of it.
They lack the discipline! Ohhh! 🤣
Orrrrrrrr they were just being entertaining?? Lol
"Spartan Mentality" is basically ingrained in so many militaries around the world. It's so weird.
@@Thor-Orion very weird.
The Spartan expert being a bully is in character for the historically awful Spartans.
The Spartans were definitely massive pricks to basically everyone else
Yuuuup, lol. I don't think it's a coincidence that the Venn Diagram of Spartan weebs and Trump supporters is a circle lol
@@raimarulightningFeudal Japan wasn't known for their globalist inclusive approach to outsiders either. Acting like every civilization on the planet were borderless hippies and the Spartans were the only civilization that strongly valued nationalism and isolation.
Nationalism?? They were a city state
The "would dodge that and teleport away" is the answer to every weapon
You gotta do Animal Planet's The Most Extreme. Nobody ever talks about the horrors that show consistently pumped out.
Yesss
Mane I loved that show, a lil over dramatic but it was entertaining forsure💯
That and the Puppy Bowl are 2 true Chad's of Animal Planet, but Nothing beat waking up to the Crocodile Hunter before school tho
that show is a masterpiece
This is what your FACE would look like if you had the never endings of a BLOODHOUND
*Green human with a nose the size of a building stumbles on screen*
I love in the simulation that it starts with the ninja, in a tree and behind the spartan. Why wasn't the whole battle a poison dart then him searching the ancient worlds equivalent of Yelp to figure out dinner plans?
That and at the beginning when the ninja jumps out of the tree and sneaks up on the spartan the ninja literally yells announcing his presence lol. Like fuck off a ninja would never yell before his attack especially when sneaking up on an enemy he clearly had no idea he was behind him.
The only thing that really bugged me about this match up was they gave the ninja a handicap with the Shurikens (which weren't even use or meant to kill), blow darts and black eggs. That's not even adding in the factor that ninjas used explosives and guns but that obviously would have made the match completely one sided
I remember watching this thinking "man I can't wait for those two guys to fight after the show in the parking lot" lol
Gotta give the edge to the green beret. Dude has dropped bodies.
@@crazy4orlando2 You really think that lol
@@81rbutleryeah I think so
I sneezed when he threw the sand, love how interactive your videos are!
Also the sound you made when describing the dummies is now living in my head forever, many thanks
The program they used from slitherin studios is the video game form of a table top strategy game. They might as well have made d&d character sheets based on the combatants
"The deceivingly simple pocket sand" kills me every time I watch this.. I've watched it 5 times now
This episode is buried in my mind. Both because the ninja experts were crazy, but also the black egg. The doctor was like "oh he'd be blind" then saw the "simulation", the egg did nothing and got no kills.
Nah the Spartan 'experts' were crazy, Ninja experts just tried to emphasize what a ninja is. That bit about ninja running away and killing someone in their sleep is 100 percent accurate. They were basically peasant spies improvising ambushes the majority of the time.
@@Nefariousbig Most ninja were samurai, not that ashigaru couldn't become shinobi, but to my understanding the majority of the time a shinobi was a samurai with unique duties more related to espionage. You say the bit about the ninja running away and killing somebody in their sleep is 100% accurate, the problem with that statement is that there's no evidence shinobi were ever involved with assassination. You can't really prove or disprove that ninja ever performed assassinations, but what is for certain is that it wasn't a focus nor anywhere near their main duties.
@@jacobdonnely2608 it's less about their proclivity to assasinate and more about the nature of the confrontations they would be involved in. They were not head-on shielded warriors like the Spartans, they chose to strike at the opportune moment to take down a more heavily armed opponent. Maybe they wouldn't literally always come back and kill people in their sleep, but evade and try and catch them unawares? Absolutely.
@@Nefariousbig It is very apparent you have little to no understanding of the actual role shinobi played in japanese society during the sengoku period
@@jacobdonnely2608 weren't ninjas mostly just farmers that fought back any way they could? And the ninja we came to know is mostly myth and fairy tales.
Or I misremember and ninjas were, more professional and hiding among peasants.
Anyway, the reason why a lot of stereotypical ninja weapons look like farm tools, is because they 100% were. The reason being that peasants weren't allowed weapons so they had to improvise. The Kama is a scythe, the Kunai is a trowel, etc. Their signature look is also just farm clothes.
I always thought a "real" ninja was more "get a job at the castle in the kitchen and slip in mushrooms in your bento that cause you to poop yourself to death" more than "sneak in stab, get caught, solo the castle to have a battle with Lord Karasumaru where you win with smoke bombs, then stealth out."
Also the castle is on fire while you battle Karasumaru
18:59 POV: you’re eavesdropping on a conversation that a bunch of washed up 40 year olds are having at a bar
I went to the comments during that moment because it was so cringe and found this lmao
I love that they use a ninjato sword despite the fact that there is no actual evidence that ninja used those in the Feudal era.
This show is classic entertainment. May not have aged the best but this show was interesting.
I love how "karate black belt" made you sound invincible in the mid 2000's...
I think the funniest thing about this episode is that, iirc, the ninja did not exist as was shown in this episode, hell, the ninjato sword's earliest confirmed appearance was 1956! The Spartan was effectively fighting a fictional character
And that stupid outfit that'd most likely only have been worn as part of a night-infiltration, so the fact it's not a 'night invasion fight' instead was baffling to me. Ninja using that natural camoflage-style dressup against the Spartan and thus also making that egg a lot more useful since it'd be even harder to see it.
Put this fight in the dark and see what the spartan can do when the ninja is attacking out of no where during the dark.
Ninja has thousands of options to easily kill their opponents.
Explosives, poison, stabbings, etc.
The ninja didn't need to work extra hard on a confrontation
@@koreancowboy42 You realize the vast majority of historical ninjas were neither killers nor even fighters right? most were simply spies who hid in plain sight in roles such as servants or travelling monks, their goal was to observe and report.
@@kinagrill Historically they didn't even were black, they wore dark blue as before modern light pollution that was the color best suited for blending in with the night sky.
It's always funny when the guy reacts to his warrior being attacked with, for instance, broken glass in the eyes...
"Yeah, I mean broken glass on the cornea....that COULD slow him down, A LITTLE"
Just shrugging off whatever it was , no matter what it was.
I love your videos on this show. Only so much you can do w/ a fixed number of episodes but so few creators actually make content about DW. It’s a crime. Please make more lol
I watched this episode when it originally aired. And it is, for me, the most iconic episode. And not in a good way. Shit will be burnt into my memory forever. Its like every major issue with the series boiled down into one episode. And its so funny that they seemed to think it was their best work, considering it was a major part of the advertising as well as the hoplite helmet inside a shuriken being their literal logo.
It kinda reminds of D&D ...they have some real objects, they have titles, they have costumes some of them want to wear, but when it comes to the actual game play or action - they just sit there describing their moves, then the opponent describes how he would get out of it, and then they decide who wins.
It's awkward.
While I wasn’t in a SOF group I was with the 10th Mountain who deployed twice and don’t recall ever being issued a short sword so I guess I’m confused on how he honed his skills with a sword as a green beret for 10 years…
Alot of down time in the barracks I guess lol
Backyard sword practice with bottles like a nerd I'm guessing lol
Literally just saw that part while reading your comment 😂😂
I was thinking that same thing. Like i know some military knives are pretty big for knives but like, what does being a green beret have to do with knowing how to use a sword designed over 2000 years ago
Barry is also a military historian which is why he was there mostly. He has a thing for the Spartans. If you watch the aftershow for the episode they talked about it.
I’m so happy you did so many deadliest warrior episodes! My sister and I used to watch when we were kids
It looks in some scenes like they just found a deserted barn in the middle of no where and some friends got together and decided to LARP around. (Especially the scene where the guy gets all the Roman costume on , where you said "you know he just willingly put all that on.") I feel like they had a lot of breaks and there's this one guy who kept trying to wear all the costume (cuz that would be me ). They couldn't get him to take it off until they promised to video it for him.
It always confuses me when this kind of show puts a class of fighter known for face-to-face combat against one known for ambush or guerilla tactics against each other, because, like, whoever wins in that is honestly going to depend more on the context of the situation. Hell, the concept of the show is pretty flawed for the sheer fact that individual skill is probably going to matter more in a fight than outright fighting style and weapon loadout.
Yeah, and he did use ambush tactics...but a ninja/shinobi wouldn't have attacked him in broad daylight...for sure. More than likely would've just shot him in the eye with a bow from 50 yards away in a tree lol.
Nah, even more likely he would have disguised himself as the quartermaster, poisoned the Spartan army's rations or water, and left without a word
This show basically inspired Ubisoft to make their so called "iconic" game, "For Honor."
Tf that game is a good game
Most people are saying that Ninjas specialize in assassination and subterfuge etc but it really depends on the setting. The reason Sparta was so isolated and difficult to invade was because they were surrounded by treacherous mountains, if Ninjas had tried doing anything in Sparta they’d have trouble getting in let alone getting out. However? If you flip the script and put the ninjas in a guerilla war against Spartans in Japan I still think the Spartans win since well ninjas lost to the samurai for the same reason. I don’t think there’s a single setting you can put these two factions in and have ninjas coming out on top, they were just peasants given basic cheap weapons and some training to rebel against the government.
Oh man this show was such a guilty pleasure growing up 😭 I feel like my life is a lie seeing how dumb it is now
You are amazing! Im glad you are blowing up! Keep up the strong work!
I second that.
The ninja hits him directly in the eyes with a bunch of broken glass and instead of attacking while the Spartan is blinded he just runs away lol.
You’ve been cranking out the videos lately! Thank you for al the awesome content
I always assumed the poor visibility of the helmet and the ninjas movement would make this battle last a lot longer than it did
The visibility of those helmets actually isn't terrible. If it's properly fitted, it is fairly close to the skin, and doesn't get in the way much.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow right plus you're protected enough at the head anyways so turning your head to look wouldn't be that much a of deal, especially for a Spartan
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow300 told me otherwise
What I thought was really peculiar was that in the episode Mafia vs Yakuza, they actually considered the baseball bat to be a “weapon”.
and then later they did the Capone Vs. Jesse James and of course the cowboy would win.
@@kinagrilleven tho al had a semi automatic gun
Mafia wins they had guns yaks didn't
I can't tell you how excited I was to see you uploaded another deadliest warrior video, what does that say about my life?
It says you get it 😂
You're the deadliest warrior
Love how they do all that “extensive research” and show all these weapons just to merk the ninja almost instantly
Humorous as the "experts" are, I do agree with the results here. In an open fight, the Spartan probably does win, though not easily.
But the Ninja expert has a point too, any "Ninja" worth their salt is going to avoid such a fight, and go with the nighttime ambush.
Its one of the show's weaknesses imo. For all their "research", they still always have a basic issue with taking the warriors out their preferred fighting context.
Spike TV doctors tend to be extremely unnecessary, but I like them in the "thank you Doctor Obvious" sense. Sure, they aren't truly needed but it's always got a chuckle out of me seeing their reactions.
you kidding? I'm a medic. of they told me od get paid to talk out my ass for 30 minutes on spike TV I'd be the most dramatic expert you ever saw lol
@@thac0twenty377 I said they are unnecessary, not that they can't be fun.
if it was to check if an injury would be lethal, debilitating or just scary-looking for essentially superficial, etc. that'd have been useful.
I remember watching this as a kid and even thinking back then that the pairing and the fight itself was so strangely one sided.
A ninja wouldn't fight head on like they did in the "simulation" , like they didn't even factor in that they were stealth fighters, a ninja certainly wouldn't pick a fight with a heavily armored opponent in midday like that.
Like I swear Barry threatened to have his Green Beret buddies raid their houses if the Spartan didn't win so they completely removed the Ninja's most vital weapons.
Not to mention that glass in the eyes really does effect your ability to use them, so even going off of what happened in the fight, the spartan would've lost, because y'know, blind
*Ninja breaks egg containing glass shard by slapping his hands together*
"Ahhhhh, my fucking hands!!!"
Underrated comment. Ahhahahaha . Laughed too hard at this.
I think you should check out “Animal Face-Off”. It was Animal Planets “Deadliest Warrior” for all of one season
I second this
Omg yes i totally forgot about that show wasn't there one with dinosaurs too
@@tlbryant4697 I forgot about that! Jurassic Fight Club!
@@kherron1991 yea I thought so that one cracked me up like we would know how dinosaurs would fight lol
Yes! It be been saying this. If Chris thinks the way they’re testing is absurd he needs to watch Animal Face Off
"Barry honed his sword skills from 8 years in the Green Berets" I didn't realize that special forces trained with swords, talk about unconventional warfare.
I love the "you can't cut through this" example with the armor but there's the whole gap under the arm right to the heart 😂 same with the dart and the armor whole arms exposed so the poison dart would cause problems
I guess they forgot to show and mention there's also that massive fuck-off shield.
@@kinagrill they also may have forgotten to mention that a ninja wouldn't take on an enemy like this head on they should have said that "the ninja would've run away and come back to kill him in his sleep"
The random guy looking at the trauma was fucking hilarious!!! This was one of my favorite shows growing up like top 3 and you have definitely brought the memories flooding back and yea I'm drowning in this goofy ass nostalgia!
I'm loving all the content you're pumping out
I remember even way younger this episode was the worst. The way they calculated who would win is simulating battles with only one weapon each and seeing who won. And since the black egg was never meant to KILL it lost hard to the shield and that basically lost the ninja the battle alone
FYI :
Actor David Wenham, the narrator from 300, did the narration for this, as well as 8 other episodes of Deadliest Warrior. 😉
My buddies and I used to laugh our asses off watching this. Hell, we'd get in fits of laughter just remembering it and quoting it. This episode was the pinnacle. Everything about it.
The amount of historical inaccuracies in this episode is wild.
They claimed ninja and samurai were mortal enemies which couldn't possibly be any further from the truth.
Genuinely one of my favorite videos you've done so far; made me laugh out loud several times! And idk man, I think Deadliest Warrior is a goldmine of content... The William Wallace Vs. Shaka Zulu episode, for instance, is another great one ⚔
Ah yeah the one where spitting is a weapon.
The commentator's voice is flat out PERFECT for this show too...
David Whenham narrating about 300 Spartans is pretty cool, fitting, and ironic. You have to admit that man.
Please dont end this. I wanna see more deadliest warrior episodes /:
Just dropped a new one today
@@abrahamwashington8579 I saw it. I need more
@@gloomykasumi8580 right. For chris to even say the words "i should do every episode in order" is a Great sign tbh. Idk if u ever saw moonshiners but i would love to see him do a few episodes of that. Tbh no matter what it is i would watch it
@@abrahamwashington8579 Unfortunately he since stopped.