UPDATE: i did change out my rear sight but used a heat gun on the area after removing the stock. Was still very tight but the screw popped loose. All good.
It is really good that you had that issue with the located screw. You were able to provide a solution that anyone with some patience could also be successful with. Thank you.
I had a torx bit break off in mine too. Thankfully, I was able to get the broken part out, then I applied brake cleaning fluid to the screw to soften the loctite. After a couple of hours for the brake cleaner to soak around the threads, and with a new torx bit, it came right out. Lesson learned. If loctite is suspected, soak it in CNC brakleen, and NOT the non-chlorinated version.
The easy solution is to take a hand held blow dryer , set on highest heat setting, blow on and around the screw for 8 mins or more, use the hex screw in the package of the new rear site, take a small box end wrench over the long end of the hex for leverage and apply very firm pressure to loosen the screw . Works every time. I have changed many rear sites using this method on Mini 14 rear sites. Much easier than grinding and drilling on the rifle.
You Da Man Timboyd, New Stock 585 series.Tried before heating with milwaukee torx bit with mini rachete ,would not budge. Heated with black and decker heat gun for 10 min, loosened right up. Easy Peezey. Thanks Again
Never use the red color locktite. That's why your torex wrench broke. Use the blue locktite only as it is made to hold the screw but allow you remove the screw if you want. Red is permanent.
I had the same problem. I used my drill in reverse with different size bits to move the screw but I found that beating lightly on the ears of the sight, one side then the other over and over it finally started to move just a fraction and then taking out the screw was easy. Crude yes but successful 😁.
I was considering the tech sights. Wanted to see if i could get the rear sight off before i bought them. Snapped 4 torx wrenches. Luckily no damage to the original sight, the tips fell right out. Decided that the juice wasnt worth the squeeze and just used blue loctite on the set screws when i zeroed my factory sights. Ive been quite pleased with the accuracy of them since zeroing.
I think I would have used blue (removable strength) thread locking compound instead of red ( permanent strength), so that I'd be less likely to face the same issue if I ever decided to change, or had to replace the rear sight.
Thanks. Great ideas to solve same rear sight screw problem I'm currently dealing with. Appreciate the close up start to finish vid. Now to finish Tech sight install. Joel.. Issaquah wa
When encountering a stubborn small machine screw, with thread locker, apply concentrated heat to the screw. I use a small butane torch. Most thread locking adhesives will break their bond with heat applied. In the future use, Loctite 222 purple on small machine screws.
If you don't care if you are butchering the factory sight then go ahead and use a 3 lb. hammer and a large chisel. I just got done replacing mine with the Tec Sight and wanted to keep the factory original. The factory screw would not budge. I heated the factory screw for quite a while with a large soldering iron with a 1/4 tip. Didn't help. Still stripped out the screw head. I got a drill bit slightly smaller than the diameter of the screw so I wouldn't damage the female threads and drilled down the center of the screw shaft half the length of the screw, then changed to a smaller diameter drill bit to drill down almost to the bottom. Then I used the correct size of easy out bit to easily extract the factory screw. I don't know why anyone would use red instead of blue Loctite here, but to each his own. The Tec Sights are an improvement. I got the kit with the alternate rear post and 3 different sized aperture inserts. I put a little machine gunner's lube on the rear post elevation adjustment washer and it rotates much easier now.
When I first got my mini, we were out plinking old beer cans in a field. I squeezed off a few rounds, and my rear sight flew off into who knows where. I never did find it. ( And it was a new rifle too )
Having the same problem right now with my mini 14 sight removal Trying the Grab It bit. No luck. This is from the factory install I never added loctite. Really frustrating
I just ordered a Mini Thirty. I wouldn't mount that sight simply because it covers the engravement on the top of the receiver. I have been watching youtube videos looking for tips and improvements. I have come to the conclusion that the best mods to do with a Mini is no mods at all.
@ranchodeluxe1every video I've seen installing the tech sight on a new mini. Like mine shows the engraving being partially covered. They even mentioned it as the downside of installing it.
Don't use a torx with the center hole. They will break. Use a solid torx, you should have no issues. Keep the torx head seated as you remove, to avoid rolling it out and stripper the head.
Perseverance pays in painful times. Nothing quite like the feeling of improving your $1200 investment and scarring it from your own ignorance…been there done that.
I thought everyone knew to heat the loctite a bit then remove the screw. But then again he said the included screw with the new sight had loctite on it already but he was going to add more anyway. Dude you only need a little loctite.
Way easier method is to disassemble the rifle, removing the bolt from the receiver, use a soldering iron to melt whatever factory adhesive they put on, then use a dremel with a cutting wheel to make an improvised blade screwdriver cut. Gonna mess up the factory sight but having to chisel and chisel in a circle is gonna damage your rifle!
All he had to do was apply a little a heat to the head of the screw with a $7 mini hand torch. That way he could have saved the original factory sight. No wonder he couldn't remove the original sight with the torx wrench! he is using red locktite. The blue loctite would have been enough.
Never EVER use red locktite on screws that you would ever plan on removing. And NEVER use red locktite on screws that small. And a Torque wrench should always be used.
I guess you know, and evidently, you wanted to put RED Loctite on the mounting screw of the new Tech Sight⁉🤔I hope you never need to remove the new sight.
After watching this demonstration I have decided I will NOT be changing out my Ruger rear site. Thank you.
UPDATE: i did change out my rear sight but used a heat gun on the area after removing the stock. Was still very tight but the screw popped loose. All good.
I think guys at Ruger would do the same.
I had the same problem. If I did it again, I’d use a soldering iron on the torx screw to melt the loctite.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who broke my torx bit off in the rear sight.
I use heat from a propane torch to heat the screw, which liquifies the lockTite.
Thanks for the tip.
It is really good that you had that issue with the located screw. You were able to provide a solution that anyone with some patience could also be successful with. Thank you.
Similar things have happened to me, and I admire your coolness in solving the problem.
I had a torx bit break off in mine too. Thankfully, I was able to get the broken part out, then I applied brake cleaning fluid to the screw to soften the loctite. After a couple of hours for the brake cleaner to soak around the threads, and with a new torx bit, it came right out. Lesson learned. If loctite is suspected, soak it in CNC brakleen, and NOT the non-chlorinated version.
The easy solution is to take a hand held blow dryer , set on highest heat setting, blow on and around the screw for 8 mins or more, use the hex screw in the package of the new rear site, take a small box end wrench over the long end of the hex for leverage and apply very firm pressure to loosen the screw . Works every time. I have changed many rear sites using this method on Mini 14 rear sites. Much easier than grinding and drilling on the rifle.
Does the blow dryer soften the locTite or expand the steel?
You Da Man Timboyd, New Stock 585 series.Tried before heating with milwaukee torx bit with mini rachete ,would not budge. Heated with black and decker heat gun for 10 min, loosened right up. Easy Peezey. Thanks Again
And just think, I hired this guy to work on my Maserati.
😂😂😂😳
Never use the red color locktite. That's why your torex wrench broke. Use the blue locktite only as it is made to hold the screw but allow you remove the screw if you want. Red is permanent.
Even Blue is for 1/4 inch and larger fasteners. Purple is really the ticket here. Red releases with heat or impact.
I had the same problem. I used my drill in reverse with different size bits to move the screw but I found that beating lightly on the ears of the sight, one side then the other over and over it finally started to move just a fraction and then taking out the screw was easy. Crude yes but successful 😁.
I was considering the tech sights. Wanted to see if i could get the rear sight off before i bought them. Snapped 4 torx wrenches. Luckily no damage to the original sight, the tips fell right out. Decided that the juice wasnt worth the squeeze and just used blue loctite on the set screws when i zeroed my factory sights. Ive been quite pleased with the accuracy of them since zeroing.
I think I would have used blue (removable strength) thread locking compound instead of red ( permanent strength), so that I'd be less likely to face the same issue if I ever decided to change, or had to replace the rear sight.
What a real winner he is…
Wow, just Wow!
Thanks. Great ideas to solve same rear sight screw problem I'm currently dealing with. Appreciate the close up start to finish vid. Now to finish Tech sight install.
Joel.. Issaquah wa
why didn't you use an allen wrench???
When encountering a stubborn small machine screw, with thread locker, apply concentrated heat to the screw. I use a small butane torch. Most thread locking adhesives will break their bond with heat applied. In the future use, Loctite 222 purple on small machine screws.
Cut a slot in the screw within a DREMEL..
Nice recovery/removal of a stubborn screw. Loctite can be a real bear
I just wanted to let viewers know not to give up. It’s just a hiccup in the road.
i’ve got a 182 model and just put on what i think was called a mini 200rr. like it so far
If you don't care if you are butchering the factory sight then go ahead and use a 3 lb. hammer and a large chisel. I just got done replacing mine with the Tec Sight and wanted to keep the factory original. The factory screw would not budge. I heated the factory screw for quite a while with a large soldering iron with a 1/4 tip. Didn't help. Still stripped out the screw head. I got a drill bit slightly smaller than the diameter of the screw so I wouldn't damage the female threads and drilled down the center of the screw shaft half the length of the screw, then changed to a smaller diameter drill bit to drill down almost to the bottom. Then I used the correct size of easy out bit to easily extract the factory screw. I don't know why anyone would use red instead of blue Loctite here, but to each his own. The Tec Sights are an improvement. I got the kit with the alternate rear post and 3 different sized aperture inserts. I put a little machine gunner's lube on the rear post elevation adjustment washer and it rotates much easier now.
Put on the sights on both my Mini 14 and 30, they both had the flip-up rear sights before and they are crap, the Tech Sights are great.
Why wouldn’t you clamp the barrel? I wouldn’t want my stock under those pressures
"self-reliance is king" ...... amen
When I first got my mini, we were out plinking old beer cans in a field. I squeezed off a few rounds, and my rear sight flew off into who knows where. I never did find it. ( And it was a new rifle too )
Been there done that, but is is definitely worth the hassle.
When I was removing my stock sight screw I stripped it horribly.
I ended up using a screw extractor and that worked for me
I can't bear to watch anymore.......
Broke my torx bit too. That 5-40 screw would not budge.
I had to drill out my screw and it’s a new one. Tech sights work great for me.
Are they made in USA?
Might try placing a torx bit in the screw and heating with a torch
Having the same problem right now with my mini 14 sight removal
Trying the Grab It bit. No luck. This is from the factory install I never added loctite. Really frustrating
Actually the shadow helped to partially cover that abortion of a rear sight removal.
These sights are notoriously difficult to remove.
I just ordered a Mini Thirty. I wouldn't mount that sight simply because it covers the engravement on the top of the receiver.
I have been watching youtube videos looking for tips and improvements. I have come to the conclusion that the best mods to do with a Mini is no mods at all.
Tech Sight is the best $75 you can spend on a Mini. It does not cover the engraving on late model Minis.
@ranchodeluxe1every video I've seen installing the tech sight on a new mini. Like mine shows the engraving being partially covered. They even mentioned it as the downside of installing it.
@@tomsreviews238 Except I'm looking at mine and the script is totally visible. Although I feel it's a very vain point.
Don't use a torx with the center hole. They will break. Use a solid torx, you should have no issues. Keep the torx head seated as you remove, to avoid rolling it out and stripper the head.
It's possible to instal T105E1 rear sight (M1 Garand) in the mini-14?
Is the new tech site that you installed plastic or metal
using red loctite is the reason you had the issues, so you decided to use red again? why not just switch to BLUE
Drill hole. Use ez-out bit
Perseverance pays in painful times. Nothing quite like the feeling of improving your $1200 investment and scarring it from your own ignorance…been there done that.
I thought everyone knew to heat the loctite a bit then remove the screw. But then again he said the included screw with the new sight had loctite on it already but he was going to add more anyway. Dude you only need a little loctite.
Way easier method is to disassemble the rifle, removing the bolt from the receiver, use a soldering iron to melt whatever factory adhesive they put on, then use a dremel with a cutting wheel to make an improvised blade screwdriver cut. Gonna mess up the factory sight but having to chisel and chisel in a circle is gonna damage your rifle!
Dude too painful to watch
RED loctite NO WAY! Blue locktite ONLY!
Caveman gunsmithing at its best
All he had to do was apply a little a heat to the head of the screw with a $7 mini hand torch. That way he could have saved the original factory sight. No wonder he couldn't remove the original sight with the torx wrench! he is using red locktite. The blue loctite would have been enough.
Never EVER use red locktite on screws that you would ever plan on removing. And NEVER use red locktite on screws that small. And a Torque wrench should always be used.
I believe I would look for a different gunsmith.
Don't use Red Loctite! Always use blue on sights
I guess you know, and evidently, you wanted to put RED Loctite on the mounting screw of the new Tech Sight⁉🤔I hope you never need to remove the new sight.
holy shit, still used red loctite !!
Red loctite ,I’m laughing my ass off.. I can’t stop laughing. Funniest shit I’ve seen in a while.😂😂😂😂
Can not hear you,you need to turn up the volume !!!
Blue.Loctite.Only.
You broke your bit and ruined the old sight because you used red locktite and tried to remove it without heat.
Oh chit ,
Penetrating oil is your friend.
BUBBA is your name.
Your audio is c***