Gender-nonconforming woman here. I LOVE being a woman, love being the female that I am, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I do not want to be a man.
100% correct. I grew up in the late 70s and 80s and gender nonconformity was the fashion. What they’re doing to gender nonconforming children is horrendous.
Whether or not gender non-conformity was a fashion depended on where you lived back then. I grew up in a small, Rust Belt town and gender non-conformity was anything BUT rewarded. The reaction was harsh. Transition seemed like the only way out. I know what you mean, though. In popular upper-class culture, long hair was in as a response to the Vietnam draft, glam rockers were a thing through the 1970s and 1980s, and Annie Lennox was the bomb. Even in the late 1980s, there were still cultures here and there who were throwing fits over Lennox. Actual acceptance of gender non-conformity was uneven.
@@BillPhlorgian Transition s a lie perpetuated by the American medical business model, social media and AGP men. The number of people with actual gender dysphoria is tiny.
@@lizadeeza yes, modern life in the west is very different. Most gender non-conformity is tolerated. I suspect, however, that it is more tolerated in natal females than natal males.
Isn’t it ironic that all of this brutality and “gender affirming care” undoes all of the progress we’ve made to expand gender roles and freedom? It’s anything but progressive.
@@someonesomeone25 Progressive as in mutilate children’s bodies? Compromise women’s spaces? Prevent people from stating biological reality? Just a start.
@@ixlnxsI've still meet plenty of butch lesbians in lgbtq+ circles. I've never seen any progressive lgbtq+ person fismiss or correct someone's identification as a butch lesbian.
@@mmmeowIf the medical establishment decides its an evidence based way of treating something that requires treatment, sure. I dont base political choices on personal disgust reactions or Incredulity, just on evidence based expert opinion on what is medically useful.
As an old school feminist, I weep at what is being done to women’s bodies for the sake of making them conform to the binary, which this movement ironically claims it’s trying to do away with.
@@someonesomeone25 this is when the idea of choice becomes abused. One should not see removal of healthy tissue and medicalising themselves as a viable, rational choice. It’s self harm. It’s self denial. I feel the same way about people who indulge in cosmetic surgery. It just seems to me the winners in all this are the ones making money off of people insecurities and confusion.
As a gender non confirming woman, I found conforming to feminine ideals boring! The excitement and enjoyment of life came from surfing (only woman out). I thought lying on the beach sunning was superbly boring while the guys were having all the fun. I have two black belts, yet I've been married to the same man for years, and we have two children. I never liked macho men, and actually I liked men who were rather androgynous and I think I would have liked you if I had met you when I was a teenager or in my twenties. Throughout, my non conforming years (my whole life), I considered myself too smart to fall into other people's categories and social labels. So let's give gender non conforming kids their due. Some of them are just super intelligent. My analytical questioning mind drove some people crazy but a BA, MA, and PhD later i see how academics was the right place for me. Parents need to channel their kids non conforming proclivities into the right channels. Alas some parents aren't too bright and that's where we run into problems...
This is what I have been trying to explain to so many people. Trans ideology is so restrictive and sexist. teaching people that if you dont fit squarely into certain gender roles or stereotypes then you belong to the opposite gender. It's insane. When I was a young boy I played with barbie dolls and wore a tutu sometimes, If it was up to these loons they would have conditioned me into identifying as trans and perhaps even led me down the path of full transition.
I agree that trans propaganda is dangerous and st"pid, I'm just sad to see a lot of people comparing propaganda to transition. I am a trans girl and I am right-wing and gender critical, and I hate the trans propaganda. And I hate how some people relate me to something I'm not.
Do you have research to back up this claim that simply playing with a doll will end up with you identifying as trans? And regarding sexism, isn't the very term GNC sexist itself? What, after all, is gender conformity? Can you give some example of gender non-conformity?
@@someonesomeone25 you're asking for research, meanwhile your comments up and down this page are all based on anecdotes of people you've seen or guesses you have... goose meet gander. don't be a hypocrite.
@@jeblmknctmabtaldlrI'm not a hypocrite. If you think I've made a claim that requires research backing, just ask, like I do. It's not hypocritical to ask for research or evidence to back claims.
You're always spot on Ray. I wish you had more followers as more people need to hear what you have to say. As a woman who grew up in the 90s, it was all about being our unique selves and not letting our gender dictate what we can and can't do or look like. The whole point was that gender should come with no limitations or rules. That was real progress... but these so called 'progessive' gender ideologues are trying to take us right back to square one while pretending to be fighting against gender stereotypes. It's honestly so bizarre.
These generalizations when it comes to any kind of social non conformity are so dangerous. As someone who is probably autistic this rhetoric had me question my own gender identity. It is just a way of trying to press different people who don't fit the prevailing societal norms (homosexual people, neurodivergent people, etc.) in a new societal mold they have to fit. Regressive shit dressed up as open-mindedness and inclusiveness.
Social expectations are trash, I agree. I made it easier on myself, and improved how people interacted with me, by identifying as genderqueer and neuroqueer. I just opt out of their 'normal' and their categories.
@@sessaly7197 True, many people, whether supporters of mainstream ideas about transfolk, or believers in Blanchards theories, or something else, are quite dogmatic.
Basically they don’t conform to their culture’s standards of what is considered feminine. There are different ways a person can be GNC, it’s kind of a spectrum. I consider myself to be on the more extreme end of gender non conformity. I think there are varying degrees of GNC that people are willing to tolerate some aspects of it. One big difference between GNC males and females is that gender non conformity is tolerated more in girls than in boys. Girls are expected to eventually “grow out of it.” From personal experience, it was a lot easier for me to growing up as a GNC girl than as a GNC adult.
I mean... I tried conforming quite heavily to my assigned stuff to begin with and it left me with a deep seeded dissatisfaction. I tried just living as a more feminine guy, dissatisfaction remained. I'm being treated as a woman now? I feel a lot better... it's really that simple honestly. I haven't the slightest desire to go back to how I was. I'm not gay I'm bi-sexual and I simply don't have anything in common with the male identity conforming or not. I've experienced every side of masculinity and I hated it all to it's core.
Absolutely correct. I think we also have to add that this medicalisation is very possible. Check out Jennifer Bilek on 'who's behind the trans cult' (or similar title)
Gender is the new soul, TWAW is the new dogma, detransitioners the new apostates, TERFs the new heretics, gender clinics the new cathedrals, drag queens at libraries the new missionaries, JK Rowling the new Shaitan, Brett Ghey the new martyr, and women's toilets, changing rooms and prisons are subjected to the new iconoclasm....
@@someonesomeone25 not "religion". This "kind of religion". It's deeply psychological, about a minority, about culture and generical. Even if a person interested answer there is not a point.
@@ixlnxs That's an interesting way of seeing it. I guess many ideological conflicts can be stylised that way: freethinkers vs the religionists; feminists vs misogynists; civili rights vs racism; gays vs homophobia, and so on. Which side would you be on in this narrative? Satan's or Righteousness?
Love the title. What chance do gay youth (and youth in generial) have to grow up and express non conformitity without this trans narrative being projected on to them constantly? Since i am much older and have it projected on to me, they have barely any, and i guess we are just saying lets hope a child has the amazing descernment and self awarness to DECLINE what is projected on them and grow into themselves... while they are already going through a complex difficult time.... The trans movement is absolutely a danger to non conforming people. People dont even know what to make of gender non conforming and androgynous people cause they see everything through the trans lense.
I disagree. That doesn't reflect my experience at all. I'm seeing far more GNC behaviour, and of course the development of NBi as a social category. Transfolk are also increasing in number. As are lgbtq+ folk of all stripes.
@@someonesomeone25 creating NB as a social category is the kind of conformist behavior we are talking about, and we've seen many people identify as NB then later "discover they are trans" and take hormones. I'm speaking from the experience of a very androgynous lesbian who has speaking to many gay non conforming people who have the same experience. Are you really saying the trans narrative is not projected on to them? Because I think that is dishonest.
@@PRINCESS-zz3wqHow is the creation of a new gender, itself something alien to Western society, conformist? Surely it's far more conformist to accept the status quo? Many NBi folk do identify as trans later. I'm not sure that's relevant, since one can be trans and NBi or NBi and take hormones, or any combination (you can be cis and take hormones if you want). And no, I'm not saying there isn't a trans narrative in society. Many will ask prople who crossdress if they're trans. People can respond however they wish.
@@someonesomeone25 The creation of a new "gender" is conformist because it surrenders to binary stereotypes. It essentially says if you are a woman, but have interests/traits/etc that are stereotypically male, well you must not really be a woman; or if you are a man who has interests/traits/etc that are stereotypically seen as those of a woman in society, you must not fully be a man. Thus abandoning non-conformity to flee to a new invented category, and leaving the man/woman "genders" to the stereotypes only. I've been calling NB "gender surrender" for a decade now.
@@jeblmknctmabtaldlrBut isn't that what GNC does, saying that certain traits are gender conforming and some not? And yet you say that those who believe the whole concept of the binary is wrong, are the ones buying into the sexist system? Seems confusing to me, especially since it's the cis GC people who don't accept or want GNC in their gender. What in your view would be the best system to be rid of all sexist stereotypes and norms?
I sometimes doubt my own dysphoria (mtf) for the very same reason so many women become convinced they are men or nonbinary. We have an internalized misogyny problem. In reality I want to be female but sometimes feel embarassed to be seen as one, like so many women. I'm also trying to stop shying away from things I secretly like but run far away from because they're deemed "feminine". When I was younger I thought it would be nice to have a girl's body but still be a boy. I was pretty smart back then, but even I didn't figure out that gender ≠ stereotypes until I was almost an adult.
I dont think I'm much older then you we will be figuring ourselves even as elderly people so any in the moment fantasies only last so long if you ever over do it
But ironically Mulan was an older Disney movie that was pushing the idea that girls could be men and men could be girls. It had to laughs in it, but ultimately when you play something up for laughs it allows you to break down social pressure around a topic to bring it into the conversation later on.
If you ever want to interview someone with DSDs that's lived the ugly truth of the end result of what they are doing willy nilly now to innocent children im definitely game as a survivor of childhood trauma i can spot predators and thats what a lot of these deranged people are Im not stopping until im speaking to crowds about how were on a course leading us to a cliff This shit is downright frightening
That is an AI generated photo, which is telling because AI works based on statistical patterns. It reveals a truth which is that teenage nonconformity is often just another form of conformity. Break free from the "gender binary" by becoming a walking stereotype!
@@RayAlexWilliams I know far more ciswomen who colour their hair than NBi folk. Not that plenty of NBi folk don't colour their hair, many do. Can you give me an example of teenage non-conformity that isn't just another type of conformity? True contrarianism is rare, especially amongst the young.
I’m hoping that transitioning helps me live as my gender non conforming autistic self. I don’t actually see myself as a man, I’m just trying to escape the discrimination and homophobia. Also, I’m heterosexual which makes my gender non conformity more unacceptable for people. They can’t comprehend that a person can be gnc and straight.
I wish society had made space for you as a GNC straight female. But I understand the decision making from a pragmatic perspective. At least you have a degree of self-awareness and don't buy into the fantasies of gender identity metaphysics.
so your a tomboy? who cant comprehend a GNC hetro? the trans cult? asking as a 57yr old hetro tomboy with ADHD and higher functioning Asperger's, who's never owned a skirt/dress/long hair and no-ones ever given a shit till now, till this cult fked it all up. no-one cared, girls could have shaven heads and boys/men could have long hair and nail polish and do ballet for the last 60yrs - until now. if your hetro how are you escaping homophobia? this cult has shut down a space that was Wide open. set women's rights back years, less than a 100yrs ago in many western countries women were banned from wearing pants. it wasn't until the second world war we were allowed. just don't mutilate yourself, please, being a tomboy is not abnormal as they would make you believe.
Awww, that is so sad to hear that your social world can't handle that scenario. Sincere question - doesn't turning into a man who is attracted to men still make you deal with homophobia and dating complexity since only gay men like men, but you're a biological woman? And as a straight woman, I can't imagine dating a gay man. (Well, I have but that's a long story lol)
@@ElizabethDohertyThomasI understand that not everyone will be sexually attracted to me. I’m not sexually attracted to every guy I meet either. Men were not sexually attracted to me before my transition (or at least they didn’t express it). Im also asexual, so I rarely experience sexual attraction and I don’t participate in dating or hookup culture. For me, the thought of a man not wanting to date me because I don’t have a penis is a lot easier of pill to swallow than a man not wanted to date me because I’m “not a real woman” despite being born female.
I think a lot of the female bodied people who make the sleeping beauty kinds of videos are actually autoandrophiles, like myself. We definitely exist haha.
GNC is gender-non-conforming. As a society, people who are born female or male will be pressured into acting out certain stereotype that are attached to our sex. For some people this works out fine, but for others, society always tries to push against us not fulfilling our sex role the way deemed appropriate. Gender stereotypes come from something. They come from sex. They are first and foremost sex-based stereotypes. So just saying you are another gender will never fix being judged based on your biology which is immutable. Even in trans circles, people get judged on being AFAB or AMAB all the time. As a GNC person I know the only way to fix the lack of acceptance for people like myself, is to embrace GNC people. NOT to attempt to transition them/erase them. That fixes nothing. I refuse to be collateral damage for trans lunatics that believe women cannot be tomboys or that men cannot be feminine and still be men.
I'm not sure that describing it as a cult helps dialogue. Additionally, I'm not seeing GNC becoming less common in recent times - Drag is more popular than ever, cishet men and gay cismen celebrities cross dress routinely (Harry Styles and many others) and plenty of non-celebrities do also, and NBi has become a very large modern category (and whether that counts as GNC is an ongoing debate). Also, what's the end aim here? If gender is abolished, so would GNC be abolished. If gender stereotypes are abolished, so would GNC be abolished. If GC cisfolk refuse to accept GNC as cis then NBi and trans will grow.
Describing it as a cult is helpful because it's an accurate description of how the ideology spreads and how people get indoctrinated, as I have explained many times on my channel.
@@RayAlexWilliams The trouble with the word cult, aside from it being a difficult to define and aside from it being tricky to apply to non-religious ideologies and political movements, is that it comes loaded with such obvious negative connotation that it poisons the well before any discussion. Use of the term effectively signals that you are not really interested in debate or discussion on equal footing, same as if I described Islam or Catholicism as a cult. Of course, if that is exactly the message you want to convey then it's your choice.
@@RayAlexWilliams Ah, gotcha. So you're the equivalent of an anti-theist aiming to eliminate the harmful ideologies of religion. That's fine. You are using this channel as a proselytising tool, not to encourage open discussion. That's fine, just wanting to be clear.
Unlike radical woke trans activists, I don't censor or delete comments or try to shut down people's free speech. People are more than welcome to have open discussion in my comments section. If any censorship happens blame it on the wokeness of UA-cam.
i don’t get why you’re saying trans people are erasing gender nonconformity when 1) gender nonconforming expressing is more common than ever and 2) trans people are themselves gender nonconforming and less likely to present stereotypically
because it's a well-known thing in the butch lesbian community that trans ideology is causing more and more butches to transition rather than live as GNC women. Trans people are walking embodiments of gender stereotypes. "I like dresses and makeup so therefore I must be a woman." or "I like to play with trucks and hated dresses so therefore I must be a man." That's regressive. See this video: ua-cam.com/video/JmkYzt-0JNA/v-deo.htmlsi=PCMJ9nd9tJnika_B
@@RayAlexWilliams i promise you the butch lesbian community is still doing just fine. their community is probably larger than it’s been in the past, even with a minority transitioning. and again, trans people are more likely to be gender nonconforming. there’s a lot of trans tom boys and femme bois out there. and trans people don’t conflate expression and identity the way you claim they do. that’s bad faith
@@RayAlexWilliamsWhat research shows that butch lesbians are reducing in number? Lesbians are the most trans accepting of the lgbtq+ sub-communities in the UK (according to survey data). Also, if those FtM transmen (who in a previous generation may have identified as a butch lesbian) are happier with their transition, what's the problem?
When a concept such as "your body doesn't match your gender, so you should transition" has no accountability at all, it's bound to become a fad/ideology/cult. Take your pick. It's still ideologically charged. Whatever is real about it is certainly not centered in the conversation because if it was, a lot of people would have to accept that their idea about themselves was always psychosomatic.
Gender-nonconforming woman here. I LOVE being a woman, love being the female that I am, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I do not want to be a man.
Me too!
then you are AGP too
In what way are you gender non-conforming?
It's not okay for men to wear dresses.
@@morganm4768 Why not?
100% correct. I grew up in the late 70s and 80s and gender nonconformity was the fashion. What they’re doing to gender nonconforming children is horrendous.
Still seems plenty of GNC behaviours to me.
Whether or not gender non-conformity was a fashion depended on where you lived back then. I grew up in a small, Rust Belt town and gender non-conformity was anything BUT rewarded. The reaction was harsh. Transition seemed like the only way out.
I know what you mean, though. In popular upper-class culture, long hair was in as a response to the Vietnam draft, glam rockers were a thing through the 1970s and 1980s, and Annie Lennox was the bomb. Even in the late 1980s, there were still cultures here and there who were throwing fits over Lennox. Actual acceptance of gender non-conformity was uneven.
@@BillPhlorgian Transition s a lie perpetuated by the American medical business model, social media and AGP men. The number of people with actual gender dysphoria is tiny.
@@BillPhlorgianBut NOW GNC is totally fine with most people outside Super Conservative areas and the Gender Cult.
@@lizadeeza yes, modern life in the west is very different. Most gender non-conformity is tolerated. I suspect, however, that it is more tolerated in natal females than natal males.
Isn’t it ironic that all of this brutality and “gender affirming care” undoes all of the progress we’ve made to expand gender roles and freedom? It’s anything but progressive.
But it doesn't undo anything? We are more progressive now than ever before. You can live more as whatever you want than ever before.
@@someonesomeone25 No you can't. Forty years ago you could be a butch lesbian without people assuming you were 'born in the wrong body'
@@someonesomeone25 Progressive as in mutilate children’s bodies? Compromise women’s spaces? Prevent people from stating biological reality? Just a start.
@@ixlnxsI've still meet plenty of butch lesbians in lgbtq+ circles. I've never seen any progressive lgbtq+ person fismiss or correct someone's identification as a butch lesbian.
@@mmmeowI would frame things differently, but sure, we are making the world as we desire it to be. It's proving quite popular.
I'm currently on the waitlist for a taxpayer-funded Tentacleplasty because Ursula the Sea Witch is my spirit animal. 🐙💜
I dont think taxpayer funded tentacle prosthetics are a thing.
@@someonesomeone25 yet
@@someonesomeone25Don’t be pessimistic. Think what the current government funds already.
@@someonesomeone25 hasn't the Canadian gov paid for a person to undergo a penis preserving vaginaplasty in Brazil?
@@mmmeowIf the medical establishment decides its an evidence based way of treating something that requires treatment, sure. I dont base political choices on personal disgust reactions or Incredulity, just on evidence based expert opinion on what is medically useful.
As an old school feminist, I weep at what is being done to women’s bodies for the sake of making them conform to the binary, which this movement ironically claims it’s trying to do away with.
But isn't a woman choosing to do what they want with their body and identity a feminist cause?
@@someonesomeone25 this is when the idea of choice becomes abused. One should not see removal of healthy tissue and medicalising themselves as a viable, rational choice. It’s self harm. It’s self denial. I feel the same way about people who indulge in cosmetic surgery. It just seems to me the winners in all this are the ones making money off of people insecurities and confusion.
@@Reet64So women shouldn't have the power to make choices about their own bodies that others consider are harmful?
@@someonesomeone25 You just called out a massive hypocrisy of these 'gender critical' people. lol
As a gender non confirming woman, I found conforming to feminine ideals boring! The excitement and enjoyment of life came from surfing (only woman out). I thought lying on the beach sunning was superbly boring while the guys were having all the fun. I have two black belts, yet I've been married to the same man for years, and we have two children. I never liked macho men, and actually I liked men who were rather androgynous and I think I would have liked you if I had met you when I was a teenager or in my twenties. Throughout, my non conforming years (my whole life), I considered myself too smart to fall into other people's categories and social labels. So let's give gender non conforming kids their due. Some of them are just super intelligent. My analytical questioning mind drove some people crazy but a BA, MA, and PhD later i see how academics was the right place for me. Parents need to channel their kids non conforming proclivities into the right channels. Alas some parents aren't too bright and that's where we run into problems...
So surfing is gender non-conforming behaviour for women?
Men should not be feminine. It's vanity and unnatural.
This is what I have been trying to explain to so many people. Trans ideology is so restrictive and sexist. teaching people that if you dont fit squarely into certain gender roles or stereotypes then you belong to the opposite gender. It's insane.
When I was a young boy I played with barbie dolls and wore a tutu sometimes, If it was up to these loons they would have conditioned me into identifying as trans and perhaps even led me down the path of full transition.
I agree that trans propaganda is dangerous and st"pid, I'm just sad to see a lot of people comparing propaganda to transition. I am a trans girl and I am right-wing and gender critical, and I hate the trans propaganda. And I hate how some people relate me to something I'm not.
Do you have research to back up this claim that simply playing with a doll will end up with you identifying as trans?
And regarding sexism, isn't the very term GNC sexist itself? What, after all, is gender conformity? Can you give some example of gender non-conformity?
@Penelope-hg4dz Keep speaking up and using your voice ❤. Blaire White is doing some heavy lifting for trans women at the moment.
@@someonesomeone25 you're asking for research, meanwhile your comments up and down this page are all based on anecdotes of people you've seen or guesses you have... goose meet gander. don't be a hypocrite.
@@jeblmknctmabtaldlrI'm not a hypocrite. If you think I've made a claim that requires research backing, just ask, like I do. It's not hypocritical to ask for research or evidence to back claims.
You're always spot on Ray. I wish you had more followers as more people need to hear what you have to say.
As a woman who grew up in the 90s, it was all about being our unique selves and not letting our gender dictate what we can and can't do or look like. The whole point was that gender should come with no limitations or rules. That was real progress... but these so called 'progessive' gender ideologues are trying to take us right back to square one while pretending to be fighting against gender stereotypes. It's honestly so bizarre.
It's not okay for men to be feminine.
I have one question please. WHY is it ok or cool to be a trans woman . . . But not ok to be a real biological woman?
Who has told you it is not OK to be a ciswoman?
These generalizations when it comes to any kind of social non conformity are so dangerous. As someone who is probably autistic this rhetoric had me question my own gender identity. It is just a way of trying to press different people who don't fit the prevailing societal norms (homosexual people, neurodivergent people, etc.) in a new societal mold they have to fit. Regressive shit dressed up as open-mindedness and inclusiveness.
Social expectations are trash, I agree. I made it easier on myself, and improved how people interacted with me, by identifying as genderqueer and neuroqueer. I just opt out of their 'normal' and their categories.
Social expectations are reality. “Genderqueer” and “neuroqueer” don’t exist. They’re your fantasies.
In what way do social expectations exist in a way that neuroqueer doesnt?
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That, opening is like saying, “If Sleeping Beauty, was your favorite Disney movie, ... How's your narcolepsy, going? WHAT IN THE AF??!!??
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@@JenniferMcMahonhawaii78 I think it’s called “saying something humorously confrontational at the top of your video to keep people watching.” 🤣
It has indeed become a religion.
Define religion?
@@someonesomeone25 Requires belief in something unprovable, ie faith. There is no more evidence of an innate “gender” than there is of a “soul”.
@@mmmeowBelief in something unprovable? So believing the past really existed or that other people aren't p-zombies is a religion?
@@sessaly7197 True, many people, whether supporters of mainstream ideas about transfolk, or believers in Blanchards theories, or something else, are quite dogmatic.
@@someonesomeone25 Your definition of "gender" is just another definition of "soul" which you are free to embrace but not free to demand of others.
What would a gender conforming woman look and act like?
Basically they don’t conform to their culture’s standards of what is considered feminine. There are different ways a person can be GNC, it’s kind of a spectrum. I consider myself to be on the more extreme end of gender non conformity. I think there are varying degrees of GNC that people are willing to tolerate some aspects of it. One big difference between GNC males and females is that gender non conformity is tolerated more in girls than in boys. Girls are expected to eventually “grow out of it.” From personal experience, it was a lot easier for me to growing up as a GNC girl than as a GNC adult.
@@UnconditionalSurrenderG Gender conforming, not non-comforming.
@@someonesomeone25my bad, sorry
@@UnconditionalSurrenderG No problem
Your channel is going to save lives! I can honestly say u helped me out with some things I didn't want to admit
I mean... I tried conforming quite heavily to my assigned stuff to begin with and it left me with a deep seeded dissatisfaction. I tried just living as a more feminine guy, dissatisfaction remained. I'm being treated as a woman now? I feel a lot better... it's really that simple honestly. I haven't the slightest desire to go back to how I was. I'm not gay I'm bi-sexual and I simply don't have anything in common with the male identity conforming or not. I've experienced every side of masculinity and I hated it all to it's core.
Absolutely correct. I think we also have to add that this medicalisation is very possible. Check out Jennifer Bilek on 'who's behind the trans cult' (or similar title)
I'm sorry, internet is not good for this kind of religious topic. Yes, religion. Not politics, not medicine.
You think religion doesn't belong on YT?
Gender is the new soul, TWAW is the new dogma, detransitioners the new apostates, TERFs the new heretics, gender clinics the new cathedrals, drag queens at libraries the new missionaries, JK Rowling the new Shaitan, Brett Ghey the new martyr, and women's toilets, changing rooms and prisons are subjected to the new iconoclasm....
@@someonesomeone25 not "religion". This "kind of religion". It's deeply psychological, about a minority, about culture and generical. Even if a person interested answer there is not a point.
@@ixlnxs That's an interesting way of seeing it. I guess many ideological conflicts can be stylised that way: freethinkers vs the religionists; feminists vs misogynists; civili rights vs racism; gays vs homophobia, and so on.
Which side would you be on in this narrative? Satan's or Righteousness?
@@someonesomeone25 I would offer gladly a hot broth, but here is hot enough. I hate who do not speak but speak. I like silence.
Glad i found your channel
Love the title. What chance do gay youth (and youth in generial) have to grow up and express non conformitity without this trans narrative being projected on to them constantly?
Since i am much older and have it projected on to me, they have barely any, and i guess we are just saying lets hope a child has the amazing descernment and self awarness to DECLINE what is projected on them and grow into themselves... while they are already going through a complex difficult time....
The trans movement is absolutely a danger to non conforming people. People dont even know what to make of gender non conforming and androgynous people cause they see everything through the trans lense.
I disagree. That doesn't reflect my experience at all. I'm seeing far more GNC behaviour, and of course the development of NBi as a social category. Transfolk are also increasing in number. As are lgbtq+ folk of all stripes.
@@someonesomeone25 creating NB as a social category is the kind of conformist behavior we are talking about, and we've seen many people identify as NB then later "discover they are trans" and take hormones. I'm speaking from the experience of a very androgynous lesbian who has speaking to many gay non conforming people who have the same experience. Are you really saying the trans narrative is not projected on to them? Because I think that is dishonest.
@@PRINCESS-zz3wqHow is the creation of a new gender, itself something alien to Western society, conformist? Surely it's far more conformist to accept the status quo?
Many NBi folk do identify as trans later. I'm not sure that's relevant, since one can be trans and NBi or NBi and take hormones, or any combination (you can be cis and take hormones if you want).
And no, I'm not saying there isn't a trans narrative in society. Many will ask prople who crossdress if they're trans. People can respond however they wish.
@@someonesomeone25 The creation of a new "gender" is conformist because it surrenders to binary stereotypes.
It essentially says if you are a woman, but have interests/traits/etc that are stereotypically male, well you must not really be a woman; or if you are a man who has interests/traits/etc that are stereotypically seen as those of a woman in society, you must not fully be a man.
Thus abandoning non-conformity to flee to a new invented category, and leaving the man/woman "genders" to the stereotypes only.
I've been calling NB "gender surrender" for a decade now.
@@jeblmknctmabtaldlrBut isn't that what GNC does, saying that certain traits are gender conforming and some not?
And yet you say that those who believe the whole concept of the binary is wrong, are the ones buying into the sexist system?
Seems confusing to me, especially since it's the cis GC people who don't accept or want GNC in their gender.
What in your view would be the best system to be rid of all sexist stereotypes and norms?
I sometimes doubt my own dysphoria (mtf) for the very same reason so many women become convinced they are men or nonbinary. We have an internalized misogyny problem. In reality I want to be female but sometimes feel embarassed to be seen as one, like so many women. I'm also trying to stop shying away from things I secretly like but run far away from because they're deemed "feminine".
When I was younger I thought it would be nice to have a girl's body but still be a boy. I was pretty smart back then, but even I didn't figure out that gender ≠ stereotypes until I was almost an adult.
I dont think I'm much older then you we will be figuring ourselves even as elderly people so any in the moment fantasies only last so long if you ever over do it
But ironically Mulan was an older Disney movie that was pushing the idea that girls could be men and men could be girls. It had to laughs in it, but ultimately when you play something up for laughs it allows you to break down social pressure around a topic to bring it into the conversation later on.
If you ever want to interview someone with DSDs that's lived the ugly truth of the end result of what they are doing willy nilly now to innocent children im definitely game as a survivor of childhood trauma i can spot predators and thats what a lot of these deranged people are
Im not stopping until im speaking to crowds about how were on a course leading us to a cliff This shit is downright frightening
DM me/email me and let’s discuss
Hi I didn’t quite catch the name of the person you recommended? Esticks lancet?
Exulansic
exulansic.substack.com/
I assure you the cult I'm in is very non conforming 😭😭😭
Why do they always have colored hair
That is an AI generated photo, which is telling because AI works based on statistical patterns. It reveals a truth which is that teenage nonconformity is often just another form of conformity. Break free from the "gender binary" by becoming a walking stereotype!
@@RayAlexWilliams I know far more ciswomen who colour their hair than NBi folk. Not that plenty of NBi folk don't colour their hair, many do.
Can you give me an example of teenage non-conformity that isn't just another type of conformity? True contrarianism is rare, especially amongst the young.
I’m hoping that transitioning helps me live as my gender non conforming autistic self. I don’t actually see myself as a man, I’m just trying to escape the discrimination and homophobia. Also, I’m heterosexual which makes my gender non conformity more unacceptable for people. They can’t comprehend that a person can be gnc and straight.
I wish society had made space for you as a GNC straight female. But I understand the decision making from a pragmatic perspective. At least you have a degree of self-awareness and don't buy into the fantasies of gender identity metaphysics.
so your a tomboy? who cant comprehend a GNC hetro? the trans cult? asking as a 57yr old hetro tomboy with ADHD and higher functioning Asperger's, who's never owned a skirt/dress/long hair and no-ones ever given a shit till now, till this cult fked it all up. no-one cared, girls could have shaven heads and boys/men could have long hair and nail polish and do ballet for the last 60yrs - until now. if your hetro how are you escaping homophobia? this cult has shut down a space that was Wide open. set women's rights back years, less than a 100yrs ago in many western countries women were banned from wearing pants. it wasn't until the second world war we were allowed. just don't mutilate yourself, please, being a tomboy is not abnormal as they would make you believe.
Awww, that is so sad to hear that your social world can't handle that scenario. Sincere question - doesn't turning into a man who is attracted to men still make you deal with homophobia and dating complexity since only gay men like men, but you're a biological woman? And as a straight woman, I can't imagine dating a gay man. (Well, I have but that's a long story lol)
Please don't do it. You will end up like me, hating your new body with no way to go back. I didn't have a choice, use yours wisely.
@@ElizabethDohertyThomasI understand that not everyone will be sexually attracted to me. I’m not sexually attracted to every guy I meet either. Men were not sexually attracted to me before my transition (or at least they didn’t express it). Im also asexual, so I rarely experience sexual attraction and I don’t participate in dating or hookup culture. For me, the thought of a man not wanting to date me because I don’t have a penis is a lot easier of pill to swallow than a man not wanted to date me because I’m “not a real woman” despite being born female.
I think a lot of the female bodied people who make the sleeping beauty kinds of videos are actually autoandrophiles, like myself. We definitely exist haha.
Are these the so-called ‘wankers’ Renton predicted in Trainspotting?
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What is GNC exactly?
try asking google
@@RayAlexWilliams No, I mean to you and to those who accept a Blanchardian viewpoint. What is GNC to you? It seems a pretty vague term.
deviating from statistically normal patterns of behavior associated with either males or females.
@@RayAlexWilliams Statistically normal? I'm not sure what that means. You mean most common?
And isn't this very culture and generation dependent?
GNC is gender-non-conforming.
As a society, people who are born female or male will be pressured into acting out certain stereotype that are attached to our sex. For some people this works out fine, but for others, society always tries to push against us not fulfilling our sex role the way deemed appropriate.
Gender stereotypes come from something. They come from sex. They are first and foremost sex-based stereotypes. So just saying you are another gender will never fix being judged based on your biology which is immutable. Even in trans circles, people get judged on being AFAB or AMAB all the time.
As a GNC person I know the only way to fix the lack of acceptance for people like myself, is to embrace GNC people. NOT to attempt to transition them/erase them. That fixes nothing. I refuse to be collateral damage for trans lunatics that believe women cannot be tomboys or that men cannot be feminine and still be men.
I have an unlikeable insight that might help you see the bigger picture of things. The reality is much darker than you realize.
What is the insight?
@@someonesomeone25 universe 25
I'm not sure that describing it as a cult helps dialogue. Additionally, I'm not seeing GNC becoming less common in recent times - Drag is more popular than ever, cishet men and gay cismen celebrities cross dress routinely (Harry Styles and many others) and plenty of non-celebrities do also, and NBi has become a very large modern category (and whether that counts as GNC is an ongoing debate).
Also, what's the end aim here? If gender is abolished, so would GNC be abolished. If gender stereotypes are abolished, so would GNC be abolished. If GC cisfolk refuse to accept GNC as cis then NBi and trans will grow.
Describing it as a cult is helpful because it's an accurate description of how the ideology spreads and how people get indoctrinated, as I have explained many times on my channel.
@@RayAlexWilliams The trouble with the word cult, aside from it being a difficult to define and aside from it being tricky to apply to non-religious ideologies and political movements, is that it comes loaded with such obvious negative connotation that it poisons the well before any discussion. Use of the term effectively signals that you are not really interested in debate or discussion on equal footing, same as if I described Islam or Catholicism as a cult.
Of course, if that is exactly the message you want to convey then it's your choice.
Good! It should have a negative connotation, because this ideological movement is actively harming young people.
@@RayAlexWilliams Ah, gotcha. So you're the equivalent of an anti-theist aiming to eliminate the harmful ideologies of religion. That's fine. You are using this channel as a proselytising tool, not to encourage open discussion. That's fine, just wanting to be clear.
Unlike radical woke trans activists, I don't censor or delete comments or try to shut down people's free speech. People are more than welcome to have open discussion in my comments section. If any censorship happens blame it on the wokeness of UA-cam.
i don’t get why you’re saying trans people are erasing gender nonconformity when 1) gender nonconforming expressing is more common than ever and 2) trans people are themselves gender nonconforming and less likely to present stereotypically
Very good points.
because it's a well-known thing in the butch lesbian community that trans ideology is causing more and more butches to transition rather than live as GNC women.
Trans people are walking embodiments of gender stereotypes. "I like dresses and makeup so therefore I must be a woman." or "I like to play with trucks and hated dresses so therefore I must be a man." That's regressive.
See this video:
ua-cam.com/video/JmkYzt-0JNA/v-deo.htmlsi=PCMJ9nd9tJnika_B
Trans people are only gender nonconforming if you admit trans women are men and trans men are women.
@@RayAlexWilliams i promise you the butch lesbian community is still doing just fine. their community is probably larger than it’s been in the past, even with a minority transitioning.
and again, trans people are more likely to be gender nonconforming. there’s a lot of trans tom boys and femme bois out there. and trans people don’t conflate expression and identity the way you claim they do. that’s bad faith
@@RayAlexWilliamsWhat research shows that butch lesbians are reducing in number? Lesbians are the most trans accepting of the lgbtq+ sub-communities in the UK (according to survey data).
Also, if those FtM transmen (who in a previous generation may have identified as a butch lesbian) are happier with their transition, what's the problem?
Today in “everything I don’t like is a cult” 😂
Turns out the things I don't like are cultish social fads like gender identity ideology and nonbinaryism.
@@RayAlexWilliamsHow are you defining cult?
Read Amanda Montell's book Cultish.
@@RayAlexWilliamsCan you precis the defition you're using of a problematic term rather than sending me to hunt go fetch?
When a concept such as "your body doesn't match your gender, so you should transition" has no accountability at all, it's bound to become a fad/ideology/cult. Take your pick. It's still ideologically charged. Whatever is real about it is certainly not centered in the conversation because if it was, a lot of people would have to accept that their idea about themselves was always psychosomatic.