Really appreciate how you let the speaker to openly complete his statements. Excellent trait to have. I hope the Youth of pakistan understands the importance of such dialogues and dissent even if they disagree with the speaker. Best Wishes from a listener from India.
This interview answered so many questions which were lurking in my mind about the situation in Balochistan. No mainstream media interview is interested in bringing clear picture of the province. Kudos to Pakistanomy and to Rafi Sb. for such clear headedness.
Difference between a good and great interviewer is the amount of interviewer’s input; the lesser the better. Good job otherwise and thank you for channeling such sane voices.
Uzair this is not one of the best interviews i have watched but the best one. Please make sure you record your videos in urdu so as to reach to wider audience.
Most independent analysts would tend to agree with Kakar's analysis. But those whose flawed and failed strategies have historically pushed Baluchistan to the brink of insurgency have their own axe to grind. Vested interests will not allow grassroots democratic institutions to prosper and promote inclusivity of Baloch people, nor will they initiate rapid economic development that benefits the Baloch. They do not believe in autonomy of decision-making by the Baloch, for the Baloch, who are not the least bit less patriotic Pakistanis than those who label them as traitors.
Pakistan is a agricultural country, while Balochistan is a nomadic culture . Pakistan is a south asian society while Balochistan is a middle eastern/ tribal society.
Very clear depiction of the balochistan and must listen this podcast if anyone want to understand about insurgency in balochistan and challenges which important for pakistani
Aoa Uzair bhai plz is pay bhi thora discussion karen k humare mulk main gold mine coal salt mine aur bhi bohat sari cheezain hongi jinhain hum nahi nikal paty koi bhi foreign firm say agreement karty khas kr ky in haalat main iski kya wajah hai?
Systemic representation in institutions including civil society. Majoritarian federal Design: Balochistan is not attractive in terms of electoral politics - because whole Balochistan can yield a maximum of 7 seats on the other hand Multan can yield more than it
Bhai cost of connecting Gwadar with national grid is huge. The reason they are planning for coal power plant with in Gwadar district is to provide electricity to makran region from Gwadar.
South insurgency has legitimate grievances - deprivation, political engineering (artificial political class by establishment), enforced disappearance, militaru-led authoritarian, even in democratic phases: military defines, their policy is binary or black and mind, they say nationalist as conniver and proxy, legitimacy of political leader; there is no sardari nizam in northern and makran region, but in kallat parts, 42-50% is not tribal, a coterie of 30-40 electables they have survived because of state patronage; 2nd systemic driver centralised federal system, majoritarian system
Hello. I watched your podcast till the end. It was amazing. I’ve a request: can you please talk about how seats are won, how working in Balochistan offers no incentives? Thank you.
The Wrechted of the Earth by Frantz fanon. Justice: What's the Right Thing to Do? By Michael sandel Islamic Expactionalism: How the Struggle Over Islam Is Reshaping the world by shadi hamid Remotely Colonial: History and politics in Balochistan by Nina Swidler
CPEC is not about Baluchistan or any road infrastructure. Gwadar can't developed by the govt investment. It is hundred of km from any major population area, city which has no link to permanent fresh water source which is dependent on rain fed water reservoirs. Govt of Pakistan starting from Musharraf era invested billion of dollars on infrastructure including development of Turbat which now is second largest city of Baluchistan. Problem is Turbat can't survive without water in Mirani dam. Add climate change crisis and see Turbat and Gawadar. Balochistan is suitable for human settlement.
The province has received de jure power after 18 amendment but de facto players remained the same. Thus devolution has yielded little result because the coterie of artificial parliamentarians or electable staffed by political engineering by military.
Rafiullah has to be one of the most ignorant man I've ever come across in my life. What majoritarian federal structure is he talking about? Every democratic country in the world operates on the basis of one man/woman one vote. In Pakistan all the provinces have equal representation in the Senate, 12 million balochistan has equal representation to 120 million Punjab. Just look at next door, in India, both upper and lower houses have representation according to population, that's how it is in most countries around the world. But Pakistan already has a structure that favours the smaller provinces. I Don't think he has read a single thing about governance. He has just memorise few fancy words so he can sound clever, but he doesn't have a single original thought in his head.
This is an extremely poor discussion, his arguments are purely childish. 1. They both admit that it is impossible to differentiate between good and bad taliban, but continue to criticise without saying why. If it's impossible to differentiate then recognising a difference between the offensive and non offensive, good or bad is a workable policy. No policy is complete but it provides a workable solution. 2. You can't pretend that the sardars are powerful because of the state, that's ridiculous, they have control and influence over their territories, over their people, the state must deal with them, they cannot be ignored, it's for the locals to speak up and not keep crying about the state. 3. Regarding majority system. Again he's living in a fantasy world. Every country on earth has regions with large population and small population and their representation is based on that. But in Pakistan there's more equality because there's equal representation in the senate. Punjab with 120 million has same seats as Balochistan with 12 million. He needs to stop crying and presenting childish arguments, and provide balanced arguments. But, I do agree that we need to make a bigger effort in the development of Balochistan, but Pakistan is a developing nation, there's a limit how much it can do at the same time, it takes time, but the Baloch must also help themselves as well.
Really appreciate how you let the speaker to openly complete his statements. Excellent trait to have. I hope the Youth of pakistan understands the importance of such dialogues and dissent even if they disagree with the speaker. Best Wishes from a listener from India.
I agree. Best wishes to Pakistonomy from India
This interview answered so many questions which were lurking in my mind about the situation in Balochistan. No mainstream media interview is interested in bringing clear picture of the province. Kudos to Pakistanomy and to Rafi Sb. for such clear headedness.
Difference between a good and great interviewer is the amount of interviewer’s input; the lesser the better.
Good job otherwise and thank you for channeling such sane voices.
Excellent discussion
Watching this channel 1 st time
Good job guys
Very well edited and discussion meaningful
Very informative and honest. Both of you specifically rafiullah stay safe and keep speaking the truth.
Uzair this is not one of the best interviews i have watched but the best one. Please make sure you record your videos in urdu so as to reach to wider audience.
Well thought out analysis
Rafiullah sb is always my favourite because of his clear explanations and beautiful suggestions. Wish to meet him someday, Inshallah. ❤️
What a beautiful approach!!!!
Hats Off To Rafiullah Kakar💯💯💯💯💯
Most independent analysts would tend to agree with Kakar's analysis. But those whose flawed and failed strategies have historically pushed Baluchistan to the brink of insurgency have their own axe to grind. Vested interests will not allow grassroots democratic institutions to prosper and promote inclusivity of Baloch people, nor will they initiate rapid economic development that benefits the Baloch. They do not believe in autonomy of decision-making by the Baloch, for the Baloch, who are not the least bit less patriotic Pakistanis than those who label them as traitors.
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The tool of conflict management in provinces is devolution but military dominance has undermined the autonomy.
Wow Kakar Sahib Very impressed with the depth and clarity of your understanding of the Balochistan story and your valuable insights.
A very markable analysis from Rafiulla kakar Great job uzair be blessed both of you
This guy is so smart, thanks for giving an analytical understanding of the issues of Pakistan
Excellent analysis.
Jazakallah.
Pakistan is a agricultural country, while Balochistan is a nomadic culture .
Pakistan is a south asian society while Balochistan is a middle eastern/ tribal society.
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Not only that but various other reasons too.
Very clear depiction of the balochistan and must listen this podcast if anyone want to understand about insurgency in balochistan and challenges which important for pakistani
excellent podcast brother
Aoa Uzair bhai plz is pay bhi thora discussion karen k humare mulk main gold mine coal salt mine aur bhi bohat sari cheezain hongi jinhain hum nahi nikal paty koi bhi foreign firm say agreement karty khas kr ky in haalat main iski kya wajah hai?
Really good
100 percent true ànalysis and solution of Balochistan issues.
Systemic representation in institutions including civil society.
Majoritarian federal Design: Balochistan is not attractive in terms of electoral politics - because whole Balochistan can yield a maximum of 7 seats on the other hand Multan can yield more than it
Seaford Export Processing zone give them modern and vocational training because most of their lifestyle is marine
Drastic course corrections are newded
Wonderful man
40 per cent Balochistan is not integrated with mainstream or national electrical grid.
Rafiullah kakar is a great human being & well informed person 🙈😍
Simply brilliant
I'm an Hindi and English speaker, I'm not able to follow a few things, would request some subtitles if possible
Increased militarisation to tackle Insurgents betrayed having not received CPEC's dividends.
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The political parties have no incentive in investment as they are not politically attractive
Bhai cost of connecting Gwadar with national grid is huge. The reason they are planning for coal power plant with in Gwadar district is to provide electricity to makran region from Gwadar.
South insurgency has legitimate grievances - deprivation, political engineering (artificial political class by establishment), enforced disappearance, militaru-led authoritarian, even in democratic phases: military defines, their policy is binary or black and mind, they say nationalist as conniver and proxy, legitimacy of political leader; there is no sardari nizam in northern and makran region, but in kallat parts, 42-50% is not tribal, a coterie of 30-40 electables they have survived because of state patronage; 2nd systemic driver centralised federal system, majoritarian system
Hello. I watched your podcast till the end. It was amazing. I’ve a request: can you please talk about how seats are won, how working in Balochistan offers no incentives?
Thank you.
The great kakar
Ttp becomes proxy of the Taliban
There was/is no good or bad taliban policy.
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The Wrechted of the Earth by Frantz fanon.
Justice: What's the Right Thing to Do? By Michael sandel
Islamic Expactionalism: How the Struggle Over Islam Is Reshaping the world by shadi hamid
Remotely Colonial: History and politics in Balochistan by Nina Swidler
CPEC is not about Baluchistan or any road infrastructure. Gwadar can't developed by the govt investment. It is hundred of km from any major population area, city which has no link to permanent fresh water source which is dependent on rain fed water reservoirs. Govt of Pakistan starting from Musharraf era invested billion of dollars on infrastructure including development of Turbat which now is second largest city of Baluchistan. Problem is Turbat can't survive without water in Mirani dam. Add climate change crisis and see Turbat and Gawadar. Balochistan is suitable for human settlement.
The province has received de jure power after 18 amendment but de facto players remained the same. Thus devolution has yielded little result because the coterie of artificial parliamentarians or electable staffed by political engineering by military.
Mashallah
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Speak against quota system in sindh
Amazing Conversation. UA-cam, please fix this video it has a dislike button.
he rightly accuses the equality principle, that's why Aristotle always hated democracy; majority can be of stupid people.
No audio?
Sound is there on our end.
@@Pakistonomy lol I hear now maybe a glitch
There is systemic inclusion
Rafiullah has to be one of the most ignorant man I've ever come across in my life.
What majoritarian federal structure is he talking about?
Every democratic country in the world operates on the basis of one man/woman one vote.
In Pakistan all the provinces have equal representation in the Senate, 12 million balochistan has equal representation to 120 million Punjab.
Just look at next door, in India, both upper and lower houses have representation according to population, that's how it is in most countries around the world.
But Pakistan already has a structure that favours the smaller provinces.
I Don't think he has read a single thing about governance. He has just memorise few fancy words so he can sound clever, but he doesn't have a single original thought in his head.
Bla zindabad
This is an extremely poor discussion, his arguments are purely childish.
1. They both admit that it is impossible to differentiate between good and bad taliban, but continue to criticise without saying why.
If it's impossible to differentiate then recognising a difference between the offensive and non offensive, good or bad is a workable policy. No policy is complete but it provides a workable solution.
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You can't pretend that the sardars are powerful because of the state, that's ridiculous, they have control and influence over their territories, over their people, the state must deal with them, they cannot be ignored, it's for the locals to speak up and not keep crying about the state.
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Regarding majority system. Again he's living in a fantasy world. Every country on earth has regions with large population and small population and their representation is based on that. But in Pakistan there's more equality because there's equal representation in the senate. Punjab with 120 million has same seats as Balochistan with 12 million.
He needs to stop crying and presenting childish arguments, and provide balanced arguments.
But, I do agree that we need to make a bigger effort in the development of Balochistan, but Pakistan is a developing nation, there's a limit how much it can do at the same time, it takes time, but the Baloch must also help themselves as well.