Why Would You Use AC When Stick Welding (Arc Welding)? - Kevin Caron

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  • From www.kevincaron.com - Artist Kevin Caron compares stick welding in AC and DC ....
    Based on a fan's question, Caron explains why you would use AC (alternating current) when arc welding, or stick welding, rather than DC (direct current).
    The biggest reason, of courrse, is to weld aluminum. But other than that, Caron had to go out and do a little research. The biggest consensus is that it's the best choice for magnetized steel because the AC isn't affected by the steel's magnetic field.
    Caron also said that arc welding rod like 7018 AC, which is specifically made to use when AC welding, welds "like butter." It also creates a really pretty looking weld. For what he is doing -making art - it's all about the way it looks.
    To test if AC really does work better when welding magnetized steel, Caron decides to set up a piece of scrap steel with welding magnets on both sides and weld with some 7018 DC and then some 7018 AC and see if it makes any difference if you weld with 7018 AC or DC.
    He welds with DC first, then the AC. You can even hear the difference between the two.
    Then Caron shows the welds. The slag is coming up off the welds nearly all in one piece - that's one of the reasons he really loves welding with 7018 welding rod. He removes the slag and brushes away a little soot and you can see the two welds clearly.
    The DC weld is a little misformed, while the AC weld is nice and straight and smooth and pretty looking.
    So for magnetized steel and welding aluminum, you'll want to use AC when stick welding. Otherwise, stick with DC.
    Why use DC otherwise? Caron says it's theory, but because you're running a positive and a negative in DC, the positive is going to get attracted to the negative. So when you're actually welding and the rod is burning away, it's going to want to attract to the ground, pulling the weld in. With AC, the current is going back and forth, back and forth, so Caron believes you don't get quite as good penetration as you do with DC.
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  • @CarlosMorales-jd5hb
    @CarlosMorales-jd5hb 2 роки тому +11

    I encountered magnetized steel on a dune buggy with a broken steering spindle arm. I couldn't figure out why I was getting arc blow on this repair job but now I understand. Great video.

  • @jvazquez53
    @jvazquez53 3 роки тому +6

    I was about to sell my 40 year old AC welder, but after seeing this video, I think I'll keep it... Thanks for the video.

  • @wmichaels362
    @wmichaels362 8 років тому +4

    Thanks for the video. I'm teaching myself to stick weld and you explained the difference between the AC and DC settings both piratically and the theory behind the differences.

  • @robertmackenzie3722
    @robertmackenzie3722 5 років тому +34

    Great video! But when you use DC reverse polarity you have less penetration, because the current goes from the base metal to the electrode, so you get less penetration. But you get a more stable weld. When you use DC straight polarity, the arc blows and is harder to control, but you get deeper penetration. This is used for cutting medal. DC power is also what you need for stick welding Aluminum. AC with High Frequency is used to T.I.G.weld Aluminum, or Heliarc. 7018 was always DC reverse polarity stick rods, unless they came out with some new. AC welding is nice looking, and you don't get Arc-blow. AC gives you equal penetration. DC is still better for welding. It will burn auy rod! It also helps on vertical and over head welding! Hope this helps someone!

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  5 років тому +4

      Great info here!! Thank you very much for posting!

    • @bobmorehead3971
      @bobmorehead3971 2 роки тому +5

      Reverse polarity (DCEP) will actually give you slightly MORE penetration when used on processes with a consumable electrode. (SMAW, GMAW, FCAW, ETC.) When TIG welding the opposite is true. This is why most stick welding is done DCEP and TIG is done DCEN.(excluding aluminum, magnesium, etc.)

    • @MrSinbad78
      @MrSinbad78 2 роки тому +5

      Due to the flow of electrons to be specific. The dc electrode negative the workpiece end is the positive and the stinger(rod holder) is the negative. This makes the flow of electrons flow to the work end making the workpiece melt with more energy and the rod burn with less. Dc electrode positive or reverse polarity the majority of electrons flow to the rod making it burn hotter and resulting in shallower penetration from the workpiece being the negative. The only reason magnetism affects this is because of the larger molten weld puddle which pulls towards the magntization. Ac gives you a more balanced weld arc because of the alternization of electrons

    • @dirtyaznstyle4156
      @dirtyaznstyle4156 2 роки тому +2

      @@MrSinbad78 but the weld puddle cannot be magnetic until it cools, the heat prevents that. For the most part if it’s a liquid, metal isn’t attracted to a magnet until well below melting temp. And if it was magnetic before being welded that portion of the workpiece isn’t going to be afterwards unless subjected to a magnetic field strong enough once the metal is below curie temp.

    • @sewasewa6585
      @sewasewa6585 2 роки тому +4

      @@dirtyaznstyle4156 In my opinion it's not the magnetization of the puddle but the flow of the current in the magnetic field which diverts the material. Like the Hall effect in semiconductor.

  • @yarrariver09
    @yarrariver09 6 років тому +3

    Good point of the difference between AC & DC in welding. Thank you for sharing your video.

  • @donogoobo9992
    @donogoobo9992 5 років тому +4

    It is very useful when welding rusted, painted or corroded metal. The constantly changing arc direction allows impurities to flow out of the weld better.

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  5 років тому

      I did not know that Don!

    • @donogoobo9992
      @donogoobo9992 5 років тому +2

      @@KevincaronSculpture Dad was a farmer. Everything was rusty. E6010 rod and an old AC machine.

    • @Peter-V_00
      @Peter-V_00 5 років тому

      @@donogoobo9992 Yep, 6010 or 6011 and turn up the volume it will let you weld the nastiest steel you can find, not always pretty but functional.

  • @obfuscated3090
    @obfuscated3090 6 років тому +7

    When AC transformer machines were the main industrial welders (to get DC you needed a motor-generator like the old Lincoln "bullet" design or a gas engine powered machine like the famous SA-200) their open circuit voltage was higher than consumer "farm" welders so Bubba wouldn't electrocute himself lying in a puddle welding his tractor (yes, it's happened!). If you encounter an old single phase beast don't pass it by! I bought a 400 amp AC Hobart T-400 for the welding leads that came with it, but of course I plugged it in to test and the AC arc is so nice I kept it instead of scrapping. It theoretically requires a 100A breaker but runs fine (not maxed out) burning 3/32 and 1/8" rod off a 50A breaker. Also worth noting is many old AC welders are both single and three phase, selected by simple jumpers inside the case. Hobart, Miller (and many Airco which were rebadged Millers), and Lincoln manuals are available on their websites.

  • @joecraft4409
    @joecraft4409 5 років тому +22

    I did notice a difference in sound between AC and DC welding.

  • @Fireship1
    @Fireship1 8 років тому +2

    Interesting video. I have both kinds of welders in my shop and never really thought about this question much. Now I know.

  • @MrUbiquitousTech
    @MrUbiquitousTech 8 років тому +3

    That's a good test, thanks for sharing!

  • @jojomama4787
    @jojomama4787 7 років тому +37

    I'm a retired welder(50+yrs. experience) & have to say that AC buzz boxes are common and cheap...all this stuff about magnetism is something most folks really won't deal with

    • @jfeal
      @jfeal 4 роки тому

      And it eats electricity like mad

    • @freedom_aint_free
      @freedom_aint_free 3 роки тому +4

      Hello! I'm from the future. 4 years after you made this comment, I'm writing to tell you that nowadays 2021, DC stick welds owing to the marvels of modern semiconductor industry (more specifically to the IGBT...) are really small, cheap, efficient and good! For little more than $100 one can buy a cheap chinese DC welder and you are in business!
      Have you tried those? Thanks for your comment and stay safe!

  • @josephwhite9992
    @josephwhite9992 4 роки тому +5

    Very interesting. I love using my inverter everlast welder but good to know why someone might want to use an AC welder.

  • @thomasjefferson1457
    @thomasjefferson1457 5 років тому +15

    I welded with 7018 AC for years and use it both on DC or AC. (It's rated for both, check the writing on the box) It has excellent restrike capabilities too. There's a conductive material in the flux that makes it restrike nice. 7018AC costs a little more but it's worth it for the flexibility of going either way with it.

    • @robertmencl9169
      @robertmencl9169 Рік тому

      Thank you! Have been using 80TAC, will try the acdc rod.

    • @autodidacticartisan
      @autodidacticartisan 11 місяців тому

      The hardware store where I live regularly mis prices welding electrodes. A 1lb box of 4043 stick electrodes is labeled as $4 when it should be $25-30 and a 5lb box of 7018AC is actually cheaper than the regular 7018, only $14!! Whereas regular 7018 is $24. None of the other welders in my town have noticed or like me they just don't want to correct them lol

    • @Chevy4Life350
      @Chevy4Life350 5 місяців тому

      where do you get 7018 ac

  • @Apocalypticable
    @Apocalypticable 3 роки тому +14

    It has less to do with DC having superior attraction and more to do with the fact that an AC arc extinguishes itself between 120 and 200,000 times per second. That is precisely what makes it good for aluminum (fragile) and magnetized steel (ion-deflective).

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      @Moe-xg6bu 10 місяців тому

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      @Moe-xg6bu 10 місяців тому

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  • @CharlesStruble
    @CharlesStruble 8 років тому +9

    Thanks guys! And, as ever, The Voice asks the right questions for us, the silent majority...

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 3 роки тому

      I'm baffled by the answer too ! I've never had a problem wi penetration using AC - just poke the rod in deeper.

  • @matthewjenkins1161
    @matthewjenkins1161 4 роки тому +7

    Because I love the simplistic reliability of my old Oxford oil cooled arc welder.
    Nothing but a big proper copper transformer soaked in oil and plugged into the mains.
    Sure I'll get myself a little DC inverter box one day, but I'll always be wondering if it will work when really needed.

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  4 роки тому +2

      Whatever works for you is the best there is! Thanks for watching and posting.

  • @edwardfoehring8827
    @edwardfoehring8827 6 років тому +4

    I use a.c. when stick welding cast iron, I use it with ni rod 99 and 55 . I found out I get better results against cracking during the cooling process. Preheeting 350 Deg to 500 Deg. Post cooling Barry it in room temp sand for 8 hrs depending on acting size.

  • @SquirrelsForAll
    @SquirrelsForAll 5 років тому +3

    Thank you, Kevin, this was very helpful!

  • @d.h.2857
    @d.h.2857 6 років тому +2

    That was a very interesting question that prompted this video. The info given is definitely most useful. Also got alot from the comments. Thanks for sharing.

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  6 років тому

      You are welcome. If you get the chance please click on an ad or two. Helps to pay for the videos.

  • @thecordlesscarpenter7956
    @thecordlesscarpenter7956 7 років тому +2

    nice demo...

  • @YeCannyDaeThat
    @YeCannyDaeThat 8 років тому +1

    Fascinating stuff! I had no idea!

  • @GoatBoy_45-70
    @GoatBoy_45-70 7 років тому +20

    People need to keep in mind where you place the ground clap can have a big effect on arc blow (magnetic effect), you should also be welding toward the clamp if possible.

    • @hagergrinkenschmied8019
      @hagergrinkenschmied8019 6 років тому +2

      GoatBoy 45/70 towards the clamp is very important for DC welding with coated electrodes. DC Welding in ground clamp direction let the arc blow drag the slag on the welding. That's what we want. Set several tack weldings before helps too. The arc blow effect at AC is low.

    • @brotherricksafety
      @brotherricksafety 6 років тому +1

      So how does that work on a horizontal pipe weld , welding in a circle ?

    • @brucemorris6319
      @brucemorris6319 5 років тому

      All you need to do is rap the ground cable around the pipe then weld it works like a champ.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 5 років тому

      You know with all the welding I have done over the years and understanding of electricity I have never really given that a whole lot of thought. I just may have to experiment with that concept.

    • @dubez3784
      @dubez3784 4 роки тому

      im not a professional welder but this is something I did not know . great info , I'm going to start doing this

  • @JasonVladimir
    @JasonVladimir 5 років тому +1

    Good show, thanks for sharing!

  • @metaxa715
    @metaxa715 7 років тому +2

    Awesome! Good video Kevin!

  • @Hekrov
    @Hekrov 7 років тому +2

    i'm really glad i've found your channel... really an awesome video and explanation

  • @ReviewLife380
    @ReviewLife380 5 років тому +1

    Awesome nice description stay blessed always with your lovedones.

  • @kuhrd
    @kuhrd 7 років тому +18

    The biggest reason to use DC is that a DC arc is much harder to quench than an AC one. This is why when you build contacters for DC current they have to be oversized and move farther apart to quench the arc and generally have a circuit to snub the arc, whereas AC current is going to zero volts 120 times a second if 60Hz or 100 times a second if on 50Hz AC. You get better penetration with DC simply because that arc is at full power all the time whereas an AC welder is delivering full current at a reduced duty cycle due to the sinewave.
    I have used modified welders that put out squarewave AC and offer a higher striking voltage and they seem to offer nearly the same penetration as DC but you get the added benefit of not haveing the weld be affected by the magnetic field.

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 років тому

      Thanks for posting.. Interesting to learn from someones else s experience.

    • @jez215
      @jez215 7 років тому

      kuhrd

    • @GoatBoy_45-70
      @GoatBoy_45-70 7 років тому +1

      Excellent description i can really understand that. In your experience which rod do you prefer for DC, 6011 or 6010?

    • @dannyherrera1598
      @dannyherrera1598 7 років тому +1

      kuhrd interesting!
      everything you wrote is electrical engineering!
      I started with welding but now I'm studying electricity (4 weeks of electrical theory) and I sorta understand what you're talking about!
      excellent comment though for whoever understands electricity!

    • @dannyherrera1598
      @dannyherrera1598 7 років тому +1

      GoatBoy 45/70 in my experience they're both the same (sorry I know you asked the other guy but he hasn't answered so this is my reply lol)
      6010 is designed for DC and 6011 for AC. But they are both deep penetrating, fast freezing, filler rods!
      6010 is cellulose sodium and 6011 is composed of cellulose potassium...
      6010 burns a bit hotter cus it has sodium but that's all.... otherwise, when welding, they both seem the same in DC welding.... I've never tried either of them on AC welding....

  • @loadnlock357
    @loadnlock357 7 років тому +30

    ON DC electrode positive the current is actually going from the ground to the electrode.

    • @Big_Chungus935
      @Big_Chungus935 3 роки тому

      seriously? for real?

    • @Anticept
      @Anticept 3 роки тому +7

      @@Big_Chungus935 Yes. Conventional current theory is the original (positive to negative flow), but when it was created, they didn't understand what electricity is fully. There still needed to be a way to differentiate the terminals, so they took a guess at which way it flows... and got it wrong. Once the electron was discovered and studied, the correct direction was found, called Electron Flow Theory, and it's negative to positive (because by then, it was too late to just go back and change all the conventions).

    • @astoltzfus4
      @astoltzfus4 3 роки тому +2

      @@Anticept Correct! Electrons have a negative charge.

    • @ritchieblackmon8601
      @ritchieblackmon8601 3 роки тому

      I'll

    • @robertcromwell9736
      @robertcromwell9736 2 роки тому +1

      Yep and why flux core welding works better with DC Negative on the wire. DCEN. Also DCEN works better for welding overhead and such with stick.

  • @grahamhughes2025
    @grahamhughes2025 Рік тому +1

    thanks Kevin, well explained. Appreciated.

  • @Justinicus24
    @Justinicus24 3 роки тому +3

    Great vid well explained. I have an AC buzzbox and 7018ac welds great but ive been using 7014 a lot and find it looks amazing, underrated rod. Thanks for the tips

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  3 роки тому +1

      Glad it helped

    • @hellwithit
      @hellwithit 3 роки тому

      Use 6011. It’s easier

    • @Justinicus24
      @Justinicus24 3 роки тому

      @@hellwithit i have and i do. Thanks buddy

    • @hellwithit
      @hellwithit 3 роки тому

      @@Justinicus24 somewhere in your life you are going to run into a cast iron fix. If you can still find it. It’s called ferrow weld.
      Beats the heck out of ni-cad or layered welding. Don’t crack when it cool and limited preheat and fast cooling

    • @Justinicus24
      @Justinicus24 3 роки тому

      @@hellwithit wow thanks for the insight big guy

  • @frankmarti8984
    @frankmarti8984 Рік тому +1

    Great information thank you

  • @mycatumz640
    @mycatumz640 6 років тому +6

    AC is a very good current for what is called a jet rod 7024. I've used this rod quite a bit and it seems to work best in an AC configuration.

    • @blakebreckenridge
      @blakebreckenridge 6 років тому +1

      Rhett Butler, also for 7014 and 6013, iron powder flux likes to run AC, less risk of slag inclusions, especially for lower skilled operators.

    • @outwhitu08
      @outwhitu08 5 років тому +1

      7014 can be used all position, 7024 is flat and horizontal only if anybody cares lol

  • @Airborne-tb9hz
    @Airborne-tb9hz 6 років тому +3

    the sound says it all

  • @garymathews9534
    @garymathews9534 7 років тому +1

    great video ! great info .got some alum .125 stick electrodes ,it says to use DCEP .are there alum electrode rods for AC welding ? I know you tig with AC .

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 років тому

      I am sure there are. Just check with your local welding supply.

  • @specialized41
    @specialized41 7 років тому

    Nice video!!!
    What stick you recommend for 1 inch square tubing and 90' degree angular? I want to make a outdoor one burner stove. People use this stove for boil shrimp on a big kettle or to fried big Turkey. The top 17" x 17" angular iron with 17" height legs on square tubing.

  • @mikef-gi2dg
    @mikef-gi2dg 4 роки тому +1

    Another good explanation of AC stick. I got a Lincoln AC buzz box, haven't used it since Adult ED beginners welding class. Wondering what else I can use it for...Aluminum stick?

  • @leek7412
    @leek7412 7 років тому +2

    Well i had a problem in on the job for a hospital being built and the whole room was metal 1/8 inch walls.i asked and the guys said it was where the MRI machine was going.. All the pipe was tig welded and there was a pipe i had to weld going through the wall seemed like a no brainer till i had arc blow with dc + 6011 root with a 7018 cover pass so i tried wraping the ground around the pipe a few times and still had trouble so i did the root on ac and the the cover with dc+ .i wish i would of brought the tig..this was in the 80`s. Try a weld with the magnets with a beveled gap with 2 sepreat plates just for the heck of it.

  • @RCWeldingsgarage
    @RCWeldingsgarage 4 роки тому +1

    I really like this channel. Good job sir!

  • @agentbertram4769
    @agentbertram4769 3 роки тому +2

    Interesting video, thanks.

  • @BMRStudio
    @BMRStudio 5 років тому +12

    I just like the cleaning action of the AC welding. Especially on construction fields with rusty rutil.....

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  5 років тому

      It is fun to watch it work! I like the molten puddle and how it can be directed. Want to get a solid block of steel and try carving it.

  • @aw4hawz4zjuw35ki3w5w
    @aw4hawz4zjuw35ki3w5w 7 років тому +4

    Hi kevin you mention ac arc with aluminium but what rods do you use as all the one s I find are dc only. Might be nice to see a video some day too. Thanks

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 років тому

      Sorry, have never done ac aluminum with stick.. Just know it's possible.

  • @TrojanHorse1959
    @TrojanHorse1959 7 років тому

    I had an old fabricator tell me once that DC helps "pull" impurities out of weld beads while AC would "push" them into the weld bead. I never could verify that one way or the other though. Do you know?

  • @philipgibson9566
    @philipgibson9566 5 років тому +1

    used 6013 rods AC to build a yacht fitted AC welder with a real heavy capacitor on input realy sorted out the flow and strike with good penetration

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  5 років тому

      It's all about the parts on the inside that make things run great.

  • @tomherd4179
    @tomherd4179 8 років тому +2

    Thats a new one for me! Thanks for the information. Now I have a question - I noticed how the 7018 slag just came off. It never seems to do that for me! Whats the trick! My weld under it seems good enough for me, but I usually have to really work at getting the slag off.

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  8 років тому

      +Tom Herd Turn up the amps just a tad.. should do it for ya....

    • @christianworthinton8000
      @christianworthinton8000 Рік тому

      Yep. A hotter weld followed by fast cooling is what causes the easy slag release.

  • @daveb9370
    @daveb9370 4 місяці тому +1

    It sounded to my ears like the A/C rod was burning at a higher frequency. This is not the case, but it sounds like it. The A/C is reversing polarity 60 x a second, where D/C is not. Also, as one other poster noted, DCEP has the electrons flowing from from the base metal (ground side) to the electrode.

  • @bsalightning69
    @bsalightning69 5 років тому +2

    I have a old welder that runs on AC only, have had it given to me years ago. Took me a bit to realize not all rod worked with it. It is a U.S. Electric Welder Company unit made in Toldeo, Ohio. Can't find any info on it. Very accurate settings. They will have to pry it out of my cold dead hands.

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  5 років тому

      Al long as it works for you then it's the best thing to have! Thanks for watching and posting.

  • @TWLML420
    @TWLML420 4 роки тому +1

    I used to run a lot a 7018 AC back in the day when all I had was a Lincoln electric tombstone 225 AC. and all I could run was AC rods.I always had good luck with them.

  • @1NRG24Seven
    @1NRG24Seven 7 років тому +1

    what was your amperage set at and what thickness plate 1/4"? Reason I ask I have a like new miller AC welder and was told that most welders like AC/DC machines and this one was given to me along with a huge Oxy/cet outfit but mainly mig weld everything and have tried stick in the past on other machines but Im the butcher man with stickwelding just can't seem to get it like a mig. But now you got my attention talking AC stick as I really need to get it down now that I have what looks like a much better welder to work with. Thanx for the vid.

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 років тому

      If I remember right it was set in the 120 range.. Maybe just a little less, like 112 or 115. Just have to practice and get "your" machine dialed in....

  • @Mikemaladar
    @Mikemaladar 8 років тому +5

    Wow video production quality is great! Huge improvement
    Also, what was he using to write on the steel? I've been using black markers ... I'd prefer that. Just a regular color pencil?

    • @chriswest5360
      @chriswest5360 3 роки тому

      Most likely soapstone, which you can get at any welding shop, even seen it at Walmart before.. the sell it in a metal pin that you have to get refills for, or the most common (and cheapest) is little rectangular pieces that’s about 1/2” wide, and 3” (+/-) long I’m honestly not sure if it’s called soapstone on the product labeling, (been a couple years since I’ve bought any) but if you go to the welding supply shop and tell them you need soapstone, they’ll know what you’re talking about

    • @robertmintz63
      @robertmintz63 3 роки тому +3

      Chris West Sorry Chris what he was using was a pencil, called silver streak

  • @isellcatlitter
    @isellcatlitter 6 років тому +1

    retired U.S.Navy... they only use DC for underwater wet(actually in the water) welding, in a coffer box (a dry box) they can use any type of welding

  • @VivaElMole
    @VivaElMole 3 роки тому +1

    Hello Kevin, amazing video thank you, I am starting to do art welding, What would be a good rod to weld railroad spikes, they are a bit rusty and are made of medium carbon. Thank You

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  3 роки тому

      I really like 7018 but I am not that up on all the different rods. I mostly tig weld.

    • @VivaElMole
      @VivaElMole 3 роки тому

      @@KevincaronSculpture Thank You

  • @nailedit.
    @nailedit. 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Kevin, nice vid.

  • @tjf1531
    @tjf1531 7 років тому +1

    well done

  • @johncrea9395
    @johncrea9395 4 роки тому +1

    Kevin
    There are other rods that are rated for AC as well, such as regular 7018, 7014, 6013, 6011 and even 316l stainless
    John

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  4 роки тому

      I am still blown away by how many different types of stick rod there are. So much to learn and so little time.

  • @redpost2380
    @redpost2380 3 місяці тому +1

    One important advantage of AC welding is that there is no ARC BLOW as the alternating current flow cancels the magnetic field which affects the arc made by a DC welder.

  • @jasongray1369
    @jasongray1369 8 років тому

    cool video keep up the good work.

  • @waynekitchen7134
    @waynekitchen7134 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for the info brother 😎✌️... Very positive and informative...5⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐s...

  • @jlyon228
    @jlyon228 Рік тому +1

    You have 7018 AC rod. That runs very well. I love AC welding 7018 if you can find that rod. Most places don't carry it around here as no one uses AC. They will give you a will work rod like H4R. It sucks. I will AC weld stick every chance I get if I can find the AC 7018 rod

  • @whitedirewulfblackdeathblood13

    For years of welding magnetized metal I learned lots of tricks an everything on that metal an it’s tricky an a lot of people won’t lay a hand on it

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  Рік тому

      There are so many things to learn in this life! Thank you for watching and posting.

  • @ozzyj94
    @ozzyj94 6 років тому +1

    Often times inspectors use magnetic particle (MT) inspection methods to examine welds. So that's one way your metal or weld could get magnetized (if the inspectors are using DC, although they are suppose to demagnetize the material). AC automatically demagnetizes for you.

  • @westtexasconstruction
    @westtexasconstruction 4 роки тому +1

    Wow I learned something today, thanks

  • @rdaugherty52
    @rdaugherty52 5 років тому +1

    If you use a small buzz box like I have a Lincoln 225 AC the AC- DC rods will work but because of the low opening voltage there hard to strike and if you try to teach a beginer you may as well give up. The 7018 AC rods strike so much easyer. The old welders
    were mostly low opening voltage
    the newer welders are variable they may open or strike the arc a lot higher then drop down anyway the AC rods are a lot easyer to strike and restrike with a AC only welder.

  • @stephk5255
    @stephk5255 2 роки тому +6

    This is simplistic, but if all you have is a lincoln tombstone, you weld with ac. No other option. 😄

  • @isellcatlitter
    @isellcatlitter 7 років тому +26

    i use AC cause my buzz box doesnt switch to DC, and the welds are very nice, penetrate well, and arc welding (stick) is a very robust weld.

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 років тому +8

      Use what you have and it works for you Awesome!

    • @joeabbott4945
      @joeabbott4945 7 років тому

      You broke or switch? You can get it fixed.

    • @julianbrody6392
      @julianbrody6392 7 років тому +2

      Good video Kevin. I don't stick weld with my everlast welder much but I found this video informative anyway.

    • @jacquespoirier9071
      @jacquespoirier9071 6 років тому +2

      on any equipment, the operator makes the half and the machinemakes the other half. you develop the skill for the equipment you have in your hands

    • @shanefarnsworth9592
      @shanefarnsworth9592 5 років тому +6

      the ac 225 buzz box is the shit

  • @agassizbeekeeper
    @agassizbeekeeper 7 років тому +1

    Interesting. I learned to weld on AC stick because it's all we had on the farm. Dad had an old Forney buzz box. I found an old welding text book that showed wrapping the ground cable around the work because it was suppose to act as an electro-magnet. Have you ever heard of this?

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 років тому +1

      Have not heard that one but I have seen the lines created on the floor in the grinder dust around the welding cable.
      It comes from the current in the cable has you are welding, so I can believe that it might work..

    • @peetky8645
      @peetky8645 2 роки тому

      wrapping the lead changes the inductance of the weld current

  • @azhauling4109
    @azhauling4109 Рік тому +1

    Great explanation! Appreciate it.
    What’s the difference when purchasing rods with the size and weight? 7018 3/32 10lbs?

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  Рік тому

      What is the difference in what? Sorry, not following.

    • @azhauling4109
      @azhauling4109 Рік тому

      @@KevincaronSculpture the rod sizes? Is each size for the thickness of metal ur working with? Or for the size of gap ur welding? When I orders rods, why should I order a 1/8 vs a 3/32?

  • @robertcaccavalla6469
    @robertcaccavalla6469 9 місяців тому +1

    Glad I watched this, I learned something

  • @6lr6ak6
    @6lr6ak6 4 роки тому +6

    For most welding work, AC is fine, worse thing about DC is arc blow, where ya have to grind out and weld again.

  • @marioserra4383
    @marioserra4383 5 років тому +1

    Hice, I have a loncinl 225 modelo, muy question ISO can I use 7018 stick with this equipment? Thankd anda regards from Venenezuels

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  5 років тому

      Sorry, but I have never seen that make and model. I am not sure.

  • @KEOHO1965
    @KEOHO1965 5 місяців тому +1

    Can cast iron (the ear off of a vise) be welded. Using a A/C 225 Home Depot buzz box?

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  5 місяців тому

      With preheat and the proper rod, anything is possible. I have never welded cast iron but I know it can be done.

  • @duanehoover1979
    @duanehoover1979 3 роки тому +1

    i have an older lincoln 225 ac welder my fan is broke not sure what way it turns cw or ccw is it suppose to blow air down on the transformer or out the louvers on side and back thank you Duey

  • @Kalkaekie
    @Kalkaekie 7 років тому +4

    Interesting !!

  • @robertcromwell9736
    @robertcromwell9736 2 роки тому +2

    AC is impacted by magnetism as well. I am a retired electronics tech. But yes 7018 AC rods are great.

  • @iainportalupi
    @iainportalupi 8 років тому +2

    I remember that discussion on welding web! Good times, good times.

  • @sylvanenergy
    @sylvanenergy 8 років тому +11

    that ending was hilarious

  • @mds19238
    @mds19238 8 років тому +1

    AC or DC ...... Prior to WWII my grandparents (long deceased) were share-croppers. In 1942 they went to a federally funded welding school and subsequently ended up in the Washington ship yards helping with the war effort: my granddad being a "finish welder" and my grandmother a "filler welder" (she said they would have to deal with gaps up to three inches...seems like a lot?) Does anyone know what type of welding current they would have used, AC or DC (probably 3 phase I'm guessing)? Color me curious.

  • @christianworthinton8000
    @christianworthinton8000 Рік тому +1

    Welding with the right rod and current source is the difference between welding with a sticky magnet stick vs a butter knife.
    Amazing when it all comes together. Turns a newbie into a pro.

  • @keithparady2594
    @keithparady2594 6 років тому +1

    So for practice so I can get back into welding what do u suggest

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  6 років тому

      A small stick welder is nice to get back in the groove. Check out the Everlast PowerArc 160 STH. Stick welder and a tig welder for less than $500.00

  • @peterbaynes5804
    @peterbaynes5804 8 років тому +2

    Good explanation Kevin... and the ending, priceless :)

  • @vortec9311
    @vortec9311 6 років тому +3

    Ac is great for magnetized. Drill pipe and casing is the only magnetized I've welded.

  • @davidmarquardt2445
    @davidmarquardt2445 7 років тому

    To mds 19238. During the war and even after, they probably did'ent have high voltage hookups out in the yards. Back then they used mostly moter/generators. It was probably in the 50's when Silicon rectifiers became more common.

  • @irish-simon
    @irish-simon 7 років тому +1

    Here in Ireland I have never seen a AC arc welder only ac tig
    can you use any rod or does it have to be ac rated

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 років тому

      Should be A/C rated to work right.

    • @iguanapete3809
      @iguanapete3809 6 років тому

      All rod I have ever seen in a hardware store says AC or DC on the box.

  • @andrewnoblett9510
    @andrewnoblett9510 Рік тому +1

    Hello Kevin
    I have a question for you . I live in uk got a 240v supply to my workshop. Question is will a 3 phase welder work on a trans wave

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  Рік тому

      From what little bit I know about Transwave I would have to say yes, a welder should be able to run.

    • @andrewnoblett9510
      @andrewnoblett9510 Рік тому

      @@KevincaronSculpture
      Thank you Kevin

  • @kesselrunheroj8497
    @kesselrunheroj8497 2 роки тому +1

    I am wanting to get started in welding, i was thinking of getting a Lincoln tombstone to learn on because they are cheap and seem to be readily available and well made. From a practical standpoint. why would I want to spend the extra money to get an ac/dc model over just getting a cheaper AC-225? I am primarily interested in welding mild steel between 1/8" - 1/4" for art projects, shop tables, gates, yard trailer etc...

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  2 роки тому +1

      To start out the AC-225 will serve you very well. You will want to upgrade someday when you get tired of chipping slag and grinding your work smooth again. But for now, go for it!

    • @kesselrunheroj8497
      @kesselrunheroj8497 2 роки тому

      @@KevincaronSculpture Thank you for the input!

  • @bobmorehead3971
    @bobmorehead3971 2 роки тому +3

    Although aluminum is TIG welded on AC, most aluminum stick rods are run DCEP

  • @princebirabi6118
    @princebirabi6118 4 роки тому +1

    What are basic question,in last year an this year on arc welding on 7018 eletron in Port,harcount

  • @stevenmchenry9276
    @stevenmchenry9276 5 років тому +1

    Didn't know that, awsome.

  • @johnmazza9432
    @johnmazza9432 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Kevin, Could you offer an opinion ? Can a person reasonably weld aluminum with stick ? Or is it just much easier with a mig welder ?

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  4 роки тому +1

      People weld aluminum with stick all the time. It's just messy and harder then a spool gun or tig welding. Have to pick up some aluminum rod and give it a go sometime.

  • @Justin-bb2hj
    @Justin-bb2hj 8 років тому

    There is a very old (1930s ect) video on UA-cam on this topic. If you're looking for more information check it out, it shouldn't be too hard to find.

  • @V1N1V
    @V1N1V 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, thanks for your video... I believe the metal will get to curie temperature so ther will be no magnetism. Beside that thank you I was thinking on a solar dc welder just solar panels right to the electrode.

  • @mannuel9165
    @mannuel9165 7 років тому +1

    hi mic fron mexico i have a question im using miller dialarc 250 stic with my wire feeder as mig welder
    but the problem is when i turn it on the wire is hot all the time .could i put him electric coil to control it with the switch on the gun and where to put it anyone have any idea how to do it or if there is a better solution please help thank you

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 років тому +1

      I think it's time for the new welder.. Not sure how to do what you are looking for. Sorry.

    • @reymijares4527
      @reymijares4527 6 років тому

      You mean the ground wire and holder? Something wrong with your wire, current is restricted, see if there is any broken area.. replace it perhaps with a bigger gauge...

    • @safetyfirstintexas
      @safetyfirstintexas 6 років тому

      put a 18 wheeler battery disconnect on the ground clamp. truck battery disconnects rate for 12 v 500 amps.

  • @CrustyBiker
    @CrustyBiker 5 років тому +1

    So well answered, but I'm still left with one question unanswered !! What kinda pencil is that and where d'ya get one? :)

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  5 років тому

      Don't know the name but it is a wax pencil used for sign making. Friend gave me a half dozen boxes while back.

  • @matiasrivero1964
    @matiasrivero1964 Рік тому +2

    I just bought a Lincoln bulldog 5500 and i can’t seem to weld with 7018…i went by manufacturing specs ….i thought it has a problem but the service guy told me it was the rod ….any advice/help
    Thanks !

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  Рік тому +1

      Sorry to hear that, what is happening or not when you try to weld with the 7018? I really don't know anything about that particular welder so can't offer any advice as to settings.

    • @matiasrivero1964
      @matiasrivero1964 Рік тому

      @@KevincaronSculpture i welded with 7018 for years on construction and mostly ac/dc capable engine driven generators >>but this small bulldog its only ac as far as i know ..could be the rod ??the way it burn its like cables are in oposite terminals

  • @Elnyne
    @Elnyne 7 років тому +3

    I dont understand the mechanism behind the magnetic field pulling the weld. Steel/Iron loses its magnetism above the curie point. (1410F) so it should not be affected in liquid state, and only after it cools down below 1410F would it regain it's magnetism but it is by then a dull red color and while technically still in "solution" it is a solid. What am I missing?

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 років тому +2

      It's not pulling the metal, it is pulling the electrical arc from the torch.

    • @MadMetalShop
      @MadMetalShop 6 років тому

      Makes sense. When you have an arc of electricity you are creating a magnetic field which can be effected by welding into places where it has no where to disperse.

  • @butchmcintyre5196
    @butchmcintyre5196 5 років тому +1

    thanks kevin it was a nice video im a welder and don't think much of the welding video

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  5 років тому

      Thanks for watching anyways!

    • @peetky8645
      @peetky8645 2 роки тому

      if you were welding .125 =.25 hollow tube with 7018, would ac make that easier due to lower penetration?

  • @kylehartwig9398
    @kylehartwig9398 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank You

  • @RobHarrison
    @RobHarrison 7 місяців тому +1

    If you look at big DC switches they often have to use magnets to extinguish the arc. AC switches don’t have that problem due to them being off for part of their cycle. Suggests easier to hold consistent and longer arc for DC. Don’t know if it’s true but logical.

    • @KevincaronSculpture
      @KevincaronSculpture  7 місяців тому

      I hear what you are saying. Thanks for watching and posting.

  • @liamjenkins82
    @liamjenkins82 6 років тому +1

    If there's small electronic devices around I think Ac has a lower chance of scrambling them than dc. Im not sure if this is myth or I heard it while I was am apprentice

  • @marioserra4383
    @marioserra4383 5 років тому +1

    Hi Kevin, why I must not use 6010 rods with AC?

  • @mjhandfomjhandfo392
    @mjhandfomjhandfo392 6 років тому +2

    Hey Kevin, I really enjoyed your video, I never knew the reason for using AC for mild steel, etc. However, I just wanted to clarify something for you. Electrons flow from your negative (cathode) lead to your positive (anode) lead, and thus current flows from negative to positive, and not the other way around. When you switch from DC- to DC+ all that is changing is which lead (work clamp and electrode holder) is the anode and which is the cathode.