How to stick weld 👨🏻🏭: Intro to Arc welding for beginners, (Series Part 1)
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2022
- In this episode I cover the first part of learning how to stick weld. Rod angle, how to start the arc, how to properly stop a weld, and a lot of other theory is covered. In future videos I will cover more about machine selection and advanced features some stick welders have.
Viewer o.t112 mentioned the hand held weld calculator I have in this video can be found on millers site and on a app for your phone. Check it out for a bit of help 👍.
www.millerwelds.com/resources...
I like that you don't promote having the latest and greatest equipment, run what we can afford. No "clickbait" BS titles! Keep it real, you're doing great, and I for one appreciate YOU!
I am editing a video where I test out the Chicago electric 99$ flux core welder with a friend to see how it stacks up to other welders. If anything the video proves it’s more about the person doing the welding than the machine. A higher end machine makes things easier for a skilled welder, but unskilled it won’t make a huge difference.
80 years young. Just discovered your channel. Subscribed. I have a square body truck I need to repair using a mig welder. [I have never welded before] I saw this video and I have been inspired by your presentations to want to also to learn stick welding. You are an excellent teacher.Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words and it’s awesome to hear your tackling projects. You have the right idea, watch some videos to get the knowledge and then practice. The start of learning stick is about 99% frustration (due to everything going wrong lol) but after than things get much easier. When you put down your first few good beads it will make it 100% worth the effort 😀
@@makingmistakeswithgreg Thanks I just bought a stick welder, a new helmet for welding, and a couple books [the books and helmet will be here in a couple weeks.] I have decided not to rush but to get everything ready for a great adventure. I bought a steel welding table plus a 1/4 inch 2 ft by 2 ft steel plate. to place welding material for practicing on top of it.I have been buying welding stuff over the years gloves, aprons, clamps, etc. Last week I decided to clean up my little shop. I found an Eastwood welding table and another welding top for the table. It is like Christmas time. Anyway, this new welding experience will teach me patience and a lot of prayer.I am a 7DayAdventist and I believe everything has its proper timing My time is so close to learning welding, bodywork, and painting. I have decided to slow down, finish straightening out my shop,weedwhack my yard put things in their proper place I like being organized and learning to do things the right way. Thanks for being such a wonderful inspiration.[I was thinking about so many homeless people living on the streets with drug and alcohol problems and I felt sad that often their talents or what could be talents are being robbed. Without a vision the people will perish] You must be a busy man You don't need to reply again. Thanks1
Hello Greg , I have watched 12 videos so far and will watch all your videos, wanted to thank you sir for helping me learn a new trade without having to go to school. I am 53 yld and worked on the electrical field for half my life and you sir will help me make a living and built amazing things . I can't thank you enough Greg really , you are great at teaching please keep helping us all. God bless you sir and take care of you.
Thanks for your kind comment 😀. I want to share what I know to help people out, and help people develop their skills. When you can build stuff the whole world opens up.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg Greg you are Godsent and with an email and pics soon it will be there for you to see. All thanks to you my family will be drinking filtered water here in Nicaragua,but it will only be possible by the restoration of a 2200 liters that has been sitting there for 2 decades without maintaining it. Take care and pics will be sent to you soon right now I'm just sanding with a grinder the inside and it is a nightmare that nobody wants to do the work, 3 guys came and ran away like little girls. God bless you and keep up your great work.
@@RomeMarch. Awesome project you're taking on, man! Post a video of the progress if you can! I'd love to see your ambitions come to light! God bless!
The best arc welding video I ever watched.
Thanks for the very kind comment 😮. I am glad I could help you out, and that you liked the video 😀. If you ever have a question feel free to ask 😀.
How old do you have to be to stick weld
Best video for beginners I've ever seen, easily explained
Good job
As i am new to welding (also very excited to learn this art) your channel has become my ivy league.."The Weld Pool School" Carry on Professor!
Thanks for the kind words and welcome. Since your new I will say it’s important to understand you will get frustrated a lot during the learning process. Focus on being as consistent as possible and being smooth. After every weld ask yourself what’s not consistent, what do I have to do to make it more consistent, and then do that. With a bunch of practice hours things will steadily improve 😀.
Instructions so clear, I welded my house up into the ducking SKY!!!
THANK YOU, SO, SO MUCH sir, I took a lot of notes, everything was so good explained couldn't find a romanian person to explain everything that well like you did.
You’re welcome, I am glad they helped you out 😀
A true teacher! God bless you!
I took a welding class years ago, this was a great refresher. Thanks man
No problem, glad to have you back welding 😀
You great you’re ways of explaining great
A few minutes into this video I stopped and subscribed. You are a great teacher and the many comments speak to that fact. Like so many others, I have watched several "New to stick welding" vids to build my knowledge base. Your presentation is very complete and I'll be sharing your channel with others. The fun begins!
Glad to hear you are starting a journey to learn welding. You’re doing the right thing, learn as much as you can and then practice. You definitely can learn to weld, just expect to be frustrated a lot at the start 😀. Once you can reliably start a rod everything becomes much easier. Definitely worth while learning, welding is one of the most useful skills a person can have 😃
Appreciate your sharing your thoughts, knowledge and experience. I'm 72 yrs old and retired. I have been wanting to learn about and begin welding. Have watched several videos and Really enjoy your tutorial. 👍🎯
Thanks and it’s never too late to learn welding. Just have patience and understand it’s like learning cursive writing. At first you make scribbles, and after a bunch of practice it starts taking shape. Stick welding in specific is all about consistency. After every practice weld ask yourself “how can I be smoother moving forward, more consistent in how I feed the rod, and how can I run a straighter line. Once you can be consistent it becomes easy, you just have to train your hands to move correctly. 😀
At 72 do you ever wish you could learn how to weld when ever your were in your mid 20s??
Excellent video, looking forward to watching the rest. Thank you for making these.
No problem, happy to help 😀
Just found your channel and appreciate the well--organized, thought out and information packed episodes. There is quite a few channels that cover your content but honestly I found yours to be the easiest to follow. It deserves much higher viewership. I just got the Titanium 225 stick welder and want to up my game on it for a few projects such as two side gates and basement door. I do need to look into getting a 220 V outlet but need more research on it since my place is over 100 years old. Saving up for that and doing my own due diligence. Look forward to your content and will be working on my starts and running short beads. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind comment and i appreciate you taking the time to write it. My channel will grow I am sure, I haven’t been on UA-cam long and I am honestly way ahead of subscribers and watch hours than I could have ever expected. I will continue to produce simple, relatable, and quality content because it’s fun for me to do so. I have debated on doing a video showing how to wire up a 220 outlet, I am still on the fence about it. On one hand I can safely wire one up and understand all aspects of the process. On the other hand I can’t account for situations in everyone’s houses. My shop is wired properly and to modern code, someone else’s house may have some funny business going on in the panel which could lead to someone getting shocked because they overlooked something. I very well might tackle that rabbit hole in the future though.
Obviously on 110 you’re only limited to around 70amps, which is doable for welding thinner stuff, but nowhere near enough to weld thicker material. Your best bet is to stick to 3/32 rods with 6013/6011 or 5/64 7018/6013. I know the 5/64 rod size is obscure but they are commonly available and will do a ton of solid work on 3/16th and under steel.
Sir Greg, started a welding apprenticeship in my village, they don’t do more than stick welds and with very little theoretical explanations. Thank you very much for providing this opportunity. I pray you keep dropping these gems.
No problem, and I am glad it has helped you. Since you’re starting out I will give you this advice: Expect to fail a lot, but don’t give up. Practice the basics until it’s hard to make a bad weld. You probably need to move slower than you are for travel speed. Try to be as smooth and consistent with your hand movements as possible. If you get frustrated take a break. And lastly if I can do it you can do it 😀
Thank you for your effort in teaching us to weld I watch all your videos iv learned so much from your tutorials ,rookie in a shed in Australia ,nobody in Aust makes videos like this don’t know why
Welcome to my channel and thanks for watching my videos 😀. I have put the effort into them because I genuinely want to help you (and other people) better themselves anyway I can.
Speaking of Australia, you guys are some of the most resourceful people I have ever met. 😀 I am surprised more people aren’t doing welding videos over there.
I am really enjoying you welding vids. They’re great! Currently binge watching!!! Thanks!
You’re welcome. There is a ton of info so don’t expect to retain all of it in a short time 😀. I am
Sure your skill will go through the roof with the info I provided and some practice 😀
I have never enjoyed listening to a video more, I’m subbed and can’t wait to go back and watch this series
Glad you enjoyed it, I will be going back into some stick welding in the near future when I cover cast iron welding 😀
Greg you seem like a really nice genuine guy and I bet you’d be really cool to hangout with. Keep up the great content. I’ve learned a lot from you so far
Thanks for the kind words. I am pretty fortunate to be in a position to be able to help out people. The fact I get to enjoy my hobby, and help other people out learning new skills, is a major win for me. In the long run once I can locate a suitable commercial building to buy, I will likely be offering hands on classes and programs to teach skills. The hardest part is I do everything on my own, so it’s a lot of work while working a full time job and a half. I enjoy it though, so it’s worth it 😀
Thanks Greg! You explain things very well and the video camera captures it well!
Glad I could help you out 😀
I just want to say I love the video thank you so much I look forward to the rest of the videos. May God bless you for your time. ❤️🙏
No problem, I am glad they helped you 😀
I am very thankful for your kindness in sharing your wisdom.
No problem, I share what I can to help people out 😀
Great video, recall helping my dad weld when i was young and this gives context to the mess we made :P
Glad you liked it 😀
Excellent video. Best delivery of the basics, I have seen. Keeping it nice and humble. Thank you.
Glad it helped you out 😀
Hi, there. I just wanted to say thank you for putting together such an amazing series. I look forward to watching them all and taking notes.
No problem, glad your learning 😀
This channel deserves so much more subs!
Thanks for the kind comment 😀. Things are growing at a solid pace. My main goals are to get people working on projects and having more skills/ confidence to tackle what they want. At the end of the day as long as I am helping some people I am not worried about how many 😀.
Thanks a lot for this very clear beginners guide, highly appreciated.
No problem, glad it helped you out. 😀
Great class I’m definitely all eyes and ears.
Greetings!!
I’ve enjoyed every one of your videos.
I’m glad to see the channel numbers rising.
Putting content out is key, I’m glad you aren’t keeping us waiting.
Thanks.
Joe.
Thanks for the kind words and I am glad you have enjoyed what I have put out. I am pretty fortunate because my content is fairly easy to produce because I don’t have to spend a ton of time on the research end (that was done over my whole life lol), and the whole point of things is to show realistic challenges and solutions (mistakes included). I also work 4 on 4 off so it gives me a ton of time to actually make videos.
Welding is only one aspect of stuff I am involved in (and since it’s winter it’s easy to focus on that due to weather) so I should always have useful content. Ultimately I hope to motivate/inspire people to pickup a tool of some sort and go build/fix something. It’s great when you can actually fix stuff/solve problems/save money instead of throwing everything away lol.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg
I’m glad you have the time to show up your talents
I also love the format, enjoyable commentary and no annoying music.
Thanks again.
@@papaloongie I put music on a few videos (it was quiet, and only during the fast forwarded sections) and then got a few videos pulled for copyrighted music (on 100% free to use music) so I think I will avoid that in the future lol. Thanks again 👍. I will have another set of videos out by Friday this week along with a weekend video.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg can’t wait!!
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Merry Christmas Greg 🎄You have a way of making the steps build one upon another to make the process simple enough for a beginner, like myself, to grasp.
Just found your channel randomly today after watching form carpentry vids! The algorithm might be working in your favor.
Welcome 😀. That’s a interesting way to find the channel lol. A lot of new people have been rolling through lately, which is good. As long as I can be part of helping people learn some skills I am all for it 😀
On all my rods, especially 7018, I just flick the hollow flux off before I strike an arc. Plus, at my stinger I bend a 45° on my rod. That way as I'm welding on a radius I can maintain contact and desired angle without braking arc. Also, an "overhead" is an "upside-down flat", is how I set my heat. Plus, "reverse polarity" is for deeper penetration as its current flow is from yo ur base metal to your filler metal.. "Straight polarity" current flow is in the opposite direction from your filler metal to your base metal. is shallow penetration and allowed only with certain rods and "innershield fluxcore" (needs no external shielding gas).
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I'm trying to learn a bit just so I can do little home projects, keep it up, you do a great job explaining and demostrating what you are talking about, much appreciate it
Thanks for the kind comment and thanks for putting in the effort to better your skills 😀. With some practice and the right information you will be able to build/fix all sorts of stuff. Expect to fail a lot at first but it gets easier as you get more experience, thats just the nature of it 😀
Well explained thanks for sharing👍👍
Hi Greg. I just find your channel (subscribed). This is super helpful for me as a new welder. Thanks a lot. Cheers.
Superb, exactly what a beginner video should be like 👍
What a lesson on welding. It is such a good video. Thanks buddy will be trying al lthese tips. Im just starting out and have been strugeling with starting the strike. 👍🏻
Glad it helped you out. Once you master starting the arc and running short beads the rest will become much easier. The key is to do enough of the stuff you can’t do well so the worst you do is better than your current best. It might take a few days of practicing rod starts to get that down. It won’t be much fun but what you can build once you can weld will be fun 😀
Fantastic, very well explained and gives me confidence to have a go 👍thank you.
No problem 😀. Just expect to fail for a bit before it makes sense. Learning stick is frustrating for a while, and can still be frustrating at times even after your good lol. Luckily if you have a decent idea of what you’re doing and practice a bunch it will slowly get better. The coolest part is when you look back on where you started and you can have a laugh at what your first welds looked like vs where you wound up.
Thanks for making such informative videos. I will admit I watch each video4 or 5 times to get everything I can out of them due to my retired old brain. I'm really enjoying my new hobby and after getting a cheater lens and padding beads on plate on 3 coupons my welds have improved dramatically. Your a good instructor!
Glad to hear things are improving nicely. With a bunch of practice and a fair amount of “mistakes” you will get it dialed in.
This is just what I needed, you do a fantastic job explaining things. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words, glad the video helped out 😀. I probably didn’t mention it much in the video, but when learning stick prepare for a bit of frustration, that’s totally normal. Keep with it and the stuck rods, rough starts, and difficultly making consistent welds will fade away pretty quickly. 😀
Hey Greg, Thank you for making this series! I recently took up welding and really liked stick welding! I came across your videos and really appreciate your in depth instructions! I recently purchased an old Lincoln AC-180-S tombstone and plan on restoring it and using it to learn on. I am also a fellow Milwaukeen!
Nice to see a fellow Milwaukeeian 😀. The ac180 is a pretty uncommon welder, I see one of those for every 150 normal tombstones lol. It came in two versions, one with multiple output taps and one with adjustable amperage. I have never welded with one but always liked the way they looked. You can definitely learn to stick weld with that machine. A lot of people overthink stick welding. If you can master running beads with a ac machine it will instantly transfer to dc output machines. The key is to be smooth in movement, consistent, and keep the arc gap to a minimum. With a bit of practice you’ll be doing good 😀
Damn your stick welds are solid looking....hat off. Thanx for your video, very helpful.
Glad it helped 😃.
Thank you so much for creating this video. I’ll be watching the ones to come. As a newbie I’ve been debating on arc vs. wire welding but your video is helping a lot.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 great job👊🏻
You’re welcome 😀. Stick vs wire is a hard debate. If you want to weld thicker steel or have limited power, stick is the way to go. If you need to weld thinner stuff wire welding is the way to go. The great news is, no matter what process you choose if you get really good at it the skill will transfer to another process, so you will learn faster.
I have both stick and wire welders, I'm not good at either, but I love welding. It's just something about joining to pieces of steel together that captivates me! lol 😂 one of my favorite hobbies!
It is a awesome hobby. The days everything goes well and the welds go down smooth are the highlights and make it the best. The days nothing goes right and you’re frustrated are the parts you have to get though lol. It wouldn’t be half as fun if it wasn’t a challenge though. It’s just you trying to tell a electric arc and some Liquid Metal who’s boss lol.
best intro I have ever seen. you're an awesome dude instant subscriber and thank you for the info
Thanks for the kind words, I am glad the video helped you out. It’s my goal to get people up to speed and building stuff 😀.
The best stick welding video for beginners I have watched and I have watched lots. The first one that explains what the numbered on the rods mean. I am going to watch the full series.
I've been in construction for years and find it difficult to get special jobs done to my desired standard and specifications. I have a project to do at my own home that needs welding and I'm going to do it myself as any welder I approached wants to do it differently , the easy way and not the quality way.
If you have an attention to detail it is definitely hard to find people to do quality work. That’s the main reason I got good at everything I have done, because relying on others to do things right is really tough. I always thought it was bizarre how someone could go to a supposed expert (someone who is offering a service in a particular skill) and get sub par work. It pays to have skills in today’s world.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and time.
You’re welcome, I am glad I can help 😀
Thanks man, this is the most informative video i have yet watched about stick welding. And i watch alottttttt about stick welding
Welcome and thanks for the kind comment 😀. It’s good to watch a ton of videos, you will get to a higher skill faster by doing so. Whatever you do don’t let the frustration at the start get you down. Every good stick welder went though the same issues with poor welds, stick rods, melting holes, and flat out failures. After a while of practice those become few & far between and that is when it really becomes fun. That’s when you can build awesome stuff 😀.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg thanks for your kind motivation 🙏
I feel super confident after watching that, you teach like a dad would teach his child, that he loves and wants the best for, i feel like i can learn alot from you about welding, thanks for this vid
Thanks for the kind words. I want to see everyone doing the best they can. Welding isn’t easy and it’s frustrating as hell. If you’re trying to teach yourself it will be a struggle for a while, but with practice and a decent idea of what you’re doing, you will progress fast. The key is practice and not giving up.
@makingmistakeswithgreg been practising this whole week, I even experimented with flux core wire using the rod welded handle as practice, was curious if it was even possible, I seem to be getting the hang of it, your tutorial was like the missing link for me, thanks greg
G’day Greg and greetings from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺, I’ve only just happened to stumble across your channel and I am a beginner, I found this first video really helpful. I have subscribed and I am aware that you filmed this a year ago it’s still helping people like me, Thank you for the channel your very easy to follow and at my age 67 that’s a bonus, will follow the videos from now on. Kind regards John
Glad the video helped you 😀. Surprisingly enough stick hasn’t changed a lot so everything will stay relevant for a very long time. As I say to everyone learning to weld, the key is to be smooth, consistent, and relaxed. If you can do those things you will progress fast 😀
Thank you very much I've been looking for this all the videos don't really tell u much great video
No problem, glad to help out 👍
Thank you for your time and service
No problem 😀
Love your video, so much great instruction, thank you!
You’re welcome, I am happy to be able to help people out. Being able to weld is a very valuable/useful skill 😀
Just the video and information i needed to get started. Thanks Greg. You earned a new sub!😊
Welcome 😀. If you’re struggling with something don’t hesitate to post a question on a video😀
You’re a great teatcher! Thanks!
Thanks for the kind comment 😀
Thank you sir for this video..I've been a fitter half of my life, i want to add it with welding.. thank you sir for your simplicity your method of teaching... i feel i can weld anything now... God bless you sir....
Welding is definitely worth learning. It’s all about being smooth and consistent. Expect a lot of frustration at first but it will get easier as you get better 😀
Best course I have seen so far, hope you cover welding body position as well, great content, helps a lot!
I shot a video on that specifically since a bunch of people requested it 😃. It will be out in under 2 weeks 😀
@@makingmistakeswithgreg Thats great, also I am sick to the teeth with slag inclusion-mainly when I try and fill gaps, there is not a single video out there I can see that explains the nature of slag, what causes it to collect. Also can you weld directly over a fresh weld without cooling then chipping away the slag first?, how do you do with uneven surfaces? all the videos online seem to be on fresh clean flat plates , but DIY stuff is often welding over irregular surfaces and you havent got time to be cutting material to fit into a irregular gaps. Thanks again!.
Really well done, thank you.
No problem, glad it helped you out 😀
This is the best tutorial I've seen, thank you so much. I've started stick welding about 8 months ago and having trouble with my fillet welds, the weld won't fuse to both pieces (like in your video 'how to fix bad welds'), very frustrating. Anyways, looking forward to watching more of your tutorials, keep up the good work!!
Thanks for the kind words. Within the next two weeks I will have a ton of content out that should help you a lot. I will have a whole video that will cover just fillet welds in all positions. By the end of the series my goal is for the average person to understand how to figure out what went wrong with their weld and make changes to fix it. That’s why I make mistakes in my videos and show how to change things to get a different result and show the before and after. I know I didn’t learn much from people who were perfect, because perfection doesn’t teach you how to fix mistakes, it just shows you what no mistakes can look like. Making mistakes is 99% of welding in general lol.
Just as a heads up I uploaded a video this week just for fillet welds specifically, it should help you solve your issues 😀
@@makingmistakeswithgreg Awesome, thanks!!! You've uploaded lots of content, I need to catch up.
Great job. U are an excellent teacher. U need to be infront of a wider audience.
Thanks for the kind words 😀. I am a pretty new channel at just over a year old. More people will join as time goes on. I am just happy to be a part of helping people to learn skills and believe in themselves 😀.
Excellent, subscribed, thank you , im total new and simply want to do basic wire feed welding and make small cool stuff, your videos are awesome
Welcome and thanks for the kind words 😀. The great thing with you being new is you will be able to progress rapidly and (provided you spend the time to practice) will be able to build a lot of cool stuff. Wire welding (MiG and flux core) is a great place to start, and is very capable. I am still doing gas shielded MiG videos so I have a few more of those coming out. If you have any questions/ don’t understand anything feel free to ask and I will help you out 😀
Thank you for the valuable info.
You're welcome 😀, I am glad I could offer some help.
I’m just starting out learning to weld (I’m 65!) so I don’t have to keep waiting for people to have time to do my stuff and so I don’t have to ask for favours…Thanks for these videos.
Being able to do stuff yourself is a awesome thing. Much of welding with normal material is fairly easy and straight forward. With a bunch of practice you will be able to do stuff others would charge a lot of money to do. That’s mostly why I got into welding. To many things constantly required me to stop what I was doing and find someone to do the welding for me.
Good info. I'm going to start practicing running beads while things get slow. We're doing structural steel
The better you can run a simple bead the easier everything else is. When you can run a straight bead that’s consistent, and layer them, then you are on the right path 😀
This is some great stuff
Just found these great video so far
Glad they are helping you out 😀
Thanks for your coaching.
You’re welcome 😀
Thank you for sharing your knowledge sir
You’re welcome 😀. I am happy to offer some useful info to make learning things less frustrating. Once you get past the frustrating things is when the fun stuff can happen, like building projects and stuff 😀
Great video. Learned alot.
Glad to hear that 😀
This is really helpful at 75 .
Thanks for the content mate
No problem, glad you liked it 😀
Thanks for this lesson sir !
You’re welcome 😀
Excellent video
Thanks guy for the lesson I've been Welding a couple years.time And what I seen you do Hey help me out Thank you for the lessons hurry helpful any explain everything perfectly.
No problem 😀, glad it helped you.
Good teaching skills
You have a new subscriber, your explanations and knowledge with great demos make this easy for someone wanting to learn to do well at this. Thank you for the sharing of knowledge.
Welcome and thanks for subscribing 😀.
Sir, you are such a great instructor. Love your channel and I just subscribed 👍💥
Thanks for the kind words and welcome 😀.
Great video!
Thanks 😃
Am I the only one that wants to see a snap shot of his Tool Box?
Yes
No. Me 2
Definitely not , Greg’s mistakes have paid for all your sins. Let’s see the haul.
Don't be disgusting 😒
I dont, it's gonna make my pocket bleeding money 😂
I have to dissagree with you here as any other pipeliner would agree with me, down hill welding is still in use today. None of my welds in 42 years of welding failed the bend test on the iron horse. Now there are factors involved in what i just stated as there is in anything being claimed here...I must add I never said I never failed a test, I just never failed a bend test. Hang in there this is good for first timers
I don’t recall saying downhill isn’t done or shouldn’t be done in any circumstance. There are certain reasons why it’s not done and probably shouldn’t be done, and they far outweigh the reasons why it can be done. Let me explain:
On pipe it’s common to use 60/7010 rods which are not commonly used with structural steel or things requiring higher strength. Not only do they impart hydrogen into the base material (which can cause hydrogen embrittlement) but they also do not perform as good as say 7018 rods on many factors (such as cold temp performance). 6010 can be run vertically down, per manufacture. 7018 (per manufacture) is universally all position except vertical down. If you weld with 7018 vertical down you are going against the manufactures specifications which puts 100% of the liability on the company/person doing the welding. A failed weld run vertical down with a rod not specified for it will not be the issue of the manufacturer. Besides issues with specifications, running vertical down has many other issues. 1) with rods like 6013, 7014,7018 it limits penetration. 2) the probability of slag entrapment or weld defects due to the dripping flux is a issue. 3) it’s significantly weaker with most rods (besides 6010) because of the penetration issue.
When the downhill issue becomes an argument it always goes back to pipe, and that is a very small part of welding in general. Pipe is beveled commonly at a total of 70 to 80 degree, and open root. Open root presents 0 issues with penetration. The wide open bevel presents zero issues with penetration because it’s like padding beads. The fact 6010 is commonly used also presents 0 issues with penetration, combined with the fact it’s slag doesn’t slump infront of the puddle like most other rods. The problem with the argument “it’s done on pipe therefore it’s acceptable for other things” is for the common person and many fabrication jobs a) don’t allow 60/7010 to be used, b) aren’t commonly done open root, c) don’t have the benefit of the wide open bevels that reduce the weld throat thickness which helps to eliminate penetration issues. Run 7018 downhill (or any rod other than a 60/7010) on a closed root fillet weld at a 45 degree angle and tell me it’s as strong as an uphill, it’s not. The root fusion is worse therefore it’s weaker.
If someone chooses to run downhill with a rod not designed or specified for it, that’s on them. If they choose to do it in circumstances that don’t involve open roots and wide open bevels, they will lose penetration. That loss in penetration can lead to weaker welds due to poor penetration. There are specific reasons things are done and pipelining is a bad example to follow. 6010 is far weaker than 7018 in actual testing, it’s very uncommon for people to weld open root wide open bevel, and running vertical down limits penetration. All reasons why it should generally be avoided except for circumstances where those flaws don’t exist or matter, like pipe welding. This is the same case with saying “NASA uses tig for anything, therefore tig is the only proper way to weld steel and aluminum”. Tig is not the only proper way to weld steel and aluminum, it’s the way they chose to weld it, based on their criteria. For the exact same reason pipeliners aren’t out tig welding everything they touch. The process and rod used meets the requirements. The danger is not understanding why something is specifically done and applying that logic to everything in general.
Edit: I don’t believe 6010/7010 is wrong to use for pipe or anything that it meets the requirements for. I use 6010 a lot myself and think it’s a great rod. I think that it works great for running on pipe in any direction. However it’s specified for that use and it works correctly. It’s not smart to go against a manufactures specifications and run other rods not suitable for downhill (like 7018), downhill. It’s also not smart to weld common joints downhill that don’t have wide bevels.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg I made a living welding as a down hill pipeliner for 42 years in very extreme conditions and the only one time it was in question was when we went to work in the upper 48 and so called" experts" said we should*nt be welding down hill because of what you claimed in your previous statement. The welding codes set up by AWS is what to follow not someones opinion, including my own...have a nice day
@@aquasaltyfishing4933 you should have read and understood what you're replying to. You make a fool out of yourself.
Don't try to argue without even understanding what you are arguing against. He said that you are correct(!), but only for that very limited use case using very specific material.
@@brag0001 So how long have YOU been welding??? LOL LOL LOL
Thank you so much!
No problem
Nice video, thank you
You’re welcome 😀
Yesterday, I watched your video. Me today; "I can now progress"
- Thank you for a great video, Greg. You're a wonderful teacher!
Edit: *goes to watch part 2*
Thanks much for the kind words 😁. The cool thing is with a bit of practice and the knowledge gained from the videos, you will surprise yourself with what you can actually do. Just expect failure for a while before things click and you can do it. It’s like learning to ride a bike, it sucks and first but it’s totally worth it in the long run 😀
@@makingmistakeswithgreg exactly that. thanks again!
(I fell asleep the other day watching your playlist. My roommate told me he thought it was the sweetest thing, me in my happy place, with welding noises as a lullaby.. )
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@@philosophicaltool5469 haha I do that all the time except I am editing the videos 😅. I always fully watch the stuff I upload before uploading them, it’s pretty common to find stuff that wasn’t edited because I fell asleep at the wheel lol.
How on earth do you have so few subscribers!? Great content, keep at it!
I am a pretty young channel. Subscribers have been pouring in lately, everything takes time :0. I am just glad that I can help people 😀
Greetings from Canadia 🖖
I have never been to Canada, but you guys do a lot of things right up there 😀.
I’ve learned a bit, and own the PPE … finally bought a welding unit, and I made the decision to save some money, and get one that can *only* do DC stick welding. Good enough! 😊👍 Wow, these little guys are cheap, in 2023! They’re almost paying us to take them. 😅
yeah, looking forward to just getting some hours of practice … but in between, I’ll try to watch the rest of your series? this is fun, thanks for the tips. 💜
No problem and welcome to the fun world of learning to weld. Practice and patience is key, and don’t give up. Expect to be terrible at first but you will get better. Before you realize it you will have the skill to make things 😀
The ONLY reason that you've got this new subscriber is because you've created an excellent video.
I appreciate it. I know I am pretty bad about subscribing to channels myself. Realistically I am unsure as to how much subscribers help a channel get pushed out to to other UA-camrs (the algorithm) but my main concern is to help out people better themselves and their skills. Every little bit helps me towards that goal so like I said I appreciate it 😀
@@makingmistakeswithgreg It is my pleasure to learn from a master teacher. I am grateful for your time and effort in producing these very clear and thorough videos, with great audio, camerawork and script. And, you get a PLUS for your humor.
@@usernamemykel you are entirely too kind 😀. Thank you 😎
@@makingmistakeswithgreg You're quite welcome, Sensei 😀
Just found your channel and Subscribed. Very nice
Thanks for subscribing, and thanks for being invested in learning/building your skills 😀
I like the twist stinger handle
I am not exhausting sure why, but the twist style is virtually non existent here in the states. I have one somewhere I will have to break out 😀
Have wondered about getting a “stinger” with a slightly smaller diameter of handle, but not sure where to find one - or wonder if they even exist?
Thank you.
You’re welcome 😀
Thank you
Really great class im just looking into weilding to get an idea of whats going on but if I am able to get a weilder I would love to learn more.
If you pickup a welder plan on being frustrated for a while as you learn. You have the right idea, learn a bunch about it so you don’t go in blind. The time you spend struggling will be very small in comparison to a lifetime of having the skill. It pays to get good 😀.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg thank you and hopfully ill get one soon a skill like that can be very valuble. Even though i'm learning at a laiter age (36) I should still have plenty of time to make use of it.
👍👍👍.Thank you
No problem, glad I could help you out 😀
Im gone subscribe ta this. I hope you know more about stick weldin than you do abou "Youchubing" I do notice you done something pretty good. You put up another list for mig. Great
Great Tutorial ! Just Need get a lenses for the camera. Appreciate your expertise! Thank You so Much!
I have since upgraded to a high end camera with arc lens so more recent and future videos are all much better 😀
thank you
No problem
Thank you Sir.
You’re welcome 😀
@makingmistakeswithgreg I am vet and 41 years old at that about to go to a Community College to learn how to weld. It's something I have always wanted to learn.
@@othonielcruzrondon3099 good for you 👍. Expect to struggle a lot at first but stick with it. It won’t be long before you get a hang of it and can start building cool stuff. Once you get good at one type of welding the others become easier. 😀
If you put a filter on your lens it would allow us to see what's actually happening. Otherwise the heat burns out the lens and we can't see a thing.
nice
Greg....the stinger 5 seems to hold the rod in a different way to the crocodile and twist grip.These latter 2 allow for the stick to "wander" a bit in its grip.How would you rate it??
So I have not actually used the stinger 5 before. I wanted to buy one a while back and during corona they were out of stock so I gave up. I like the idea of them though
I have really enjoyed your video , i will be watching all you have to offer. , Where is your ground connected ?
I connect it to the steel table top in the video. The electricity completes the circuit through the table 😀
Lovely presentation of facts on this subject. Im not good friends with welding but know i could do better. Im reasonable with the startups. Most of material i do is thin walled and naturally i often get burned holes😂😊. What i woukd like to to know is if the steel we get, the quality thereof affect the weld or is there ways to get around it. Id like to improve on the thin walled stuff
I won’t sugar coat it, welding thin material is no fun with stick. There becomes a point where it’s just too thin to be effectively stick welded. The smallest stick rod that’s common is 1/16th diameter, which is far bigger than .023 or .030 MiG wire or .030 flux core. 1/16th stick rods make it possible to weld material down to about 1/16th or a bit thinner. It isn’t easy, but it’s possible. 10 out of 10 times I rather flux core weld material thinner than about 1/8th thick.
Thank you for your content It is very helpful also do you think that learning welding skills is good as a side job like just for extra income thanks again.
Once I got good at welding it worked great for me as a side hustle. I will be doing a whole video series soon on this to help people out. It’s a great way to make extra income with not a whole lot of money to start.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg thanks for sharing with us man, you're really helping people out here the hardest part of doing something is start doing it and I was already on my grandma's backyard before went to work