Shamokin Fire Bureau - 7th St. - Massive Fire With Collapses
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- Опубліковано 28 січ 2022
- SFB - Onscene - 1/29/22 - READ Further For More Details .. View In "HD"
You are On Scene with the Shamokin Fire Bureau who responded to a Working Structure fire at 7th. & Pine St's.
Units arrived to heavy fire and the 2nd and third divisions and thru the roof of 205. The fire spread to three other exposures. All total 4 houses involved, and 2 minor collapses, and 2 major collapses occurred.
Firefighters were hampered by weather as it snowed overnight, and the temps were hovering around 15 degrees Fahrenheit. Fire hydrants were frozen and a stiff north wind helped the fire spread faster.
To my knowledge there were no injuries reported.
GREAT job by the sfb to control this VERY tough fire.
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After 14 years on UA-cam I finally became the 1000 thumb up. Congratulations and Thank You to Me. What a great video to remember it by. Thanks man.
Wow, thanks! Congrats!
Now that is some good old building construction. You will never see a newer structure hold up that long with a fire load like that.
I agree
Great Job. Way to go Independence and everyone. Good job dodging that collapse. Thank You for all you do guys. I volunteered at Inde.
Amen Thanks
Moral of the story... the collapse zone is ALWAYS a lot bigger than you think it will be. Plan accordingly to avoid crew injuries and equipment damage!
Amen
Yikes! A WHOLE row of homes on fire. Good job FD
Thank You for the comments!
Wow great job guys .. Hello from Ontario Canada ❤️❤️
Thank you so much 🤗
Damn, that house is _Shamokin!_
And a burnin ... And then faw down go BOOM!
Wow my friends live or lived in the town lost track over the years but remember that the volunteers were very good
And they are ...
Nothing like a good wind to push the fire throughout the structure!!
Yeppers
The wind moved the smoke perfectly to catch that collapse! Firemen. A different breed
Absolutely ... Thanks for the comments!
Fantastic job guys under near impossible conditions. Great video of this incident! 👍👍👍
Thanks for the comments!
I didn’t know Shamokin had a fire dept…that’s pretty cool to know. 👍
Now you know ....
Wow, Nice attract of knocking down the fire, Good Job FireFighters,I hope no one was injured.
Thank You ... To my knowledge there were no injuries ...
Wow nice catch on the 2 collapses the whole front came off 1 building then the whole 2nd floor & roof went on the main fire building.
Thanks Samantha
VERY WELL DONE BROTHER ! DIGGING THE DRONE SHOTS ,WITH COMMs ! BLESS YOU AND YOURS ! HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU AND YOURS ! 🇺🇲
Happy holidays! Thanks!
If you’re told to leave a building on fire and not come back, it’s for your own good. Don’t be an idiot.
Sounds like good practice
@@FDNY8231 I’ve seen way too many bad houses fires. You wouldn’t have to tell me twice.
Great job everyone involved putting fire out stay safe
Thank You James
@@FDNY8231 ur welcome
If this is Shamokin pa great work guys this used to be a nice little town but time has taken its toll in the area
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Yes it is! Thanks!
Our old homestead gone. Sadly, all those houses, save one, was in good condition when we all left.
That they were but time goes one way ... I lived at 149 for a while
That aerial water gun truck was really cool. I never saw anything like it.
Thanks
Boy that wind is fanning that fire.At least thev'e got the ladder truck in the right place.
Thanks
Sadly it used to be a tree lined block with flower beds and kids playing red rover. Block picnics. We lived in the green house until my parents moved in the 80’s. My moms beauty shop was in the first floor. What happened to the deplorable conditions the were in?
Yes it is sad how things are. My uncle lived on Diamond St. too
It must be sad to remember how neighborhoods go through a deterioration as people are able (or forced) to move. Then what is left behind nobody wants to spend money to renovate, tear down & recycle, or reuse the land. Just waiting to burn down, then somebody is forced to clear the debris. Glad no one was injured. Is there a way to thaw a frozen hydrant? (I'm from San Diego ... only have ice cream and yogurt freezes here ;-)
Water company will normally handle frozen hydrants and my guess is steam ...
@@donalddodson7365 It is a shame to see a community go downhill like this in just a few years, people buy houses at a low cost because of the market value and location then just do nothing. Make big plans when they do the purchase then find out the cost to renovate is more than expected, so they let it sit like this until it collapses on its own or like now burns to the ground, then collect the payout from insurance. As a volunteer FF I have seen it all too often in my area here in the Adirondack Mountain region, people from out of state or Canada buy property or homes and then do nothing with it only pay the taxes. Just sad to see possible futures going up in flames because owners failed to do proper planning prior to purchase, or owners not putting the home on the market while it was in good condition.
So how long were those houses abandoned for? On google maps it looks like a long neglected street.
Don't know
Part of a city's job is to make regular checks of all fire hydrants, on a set schedule,
to make sure they work. Arriving at a fire, only to find that most of the hydrants are frozen
or inoperable, is just not acceptable. This is how containable fires can easily get out of control.
To its credit, the SFB managed to get some of those hydrants up and running, but in other circumstances, the delay in getting water on the fire, could have been a disaster. For instance,
if there had been tightly packed row housing just uphill from the fully involved structure on the right, the fire would have spread into those buildings too, and they could have ended up with
a dangerous, wind-driven multi-alarm fire. Given the bitter weather, and the lack of water, this department did a good job of containing this fire. Rolling tankers, as a backup, was a smart move. They also did a good job of protecting adjacent structures on the downhill side.
When that truck-mounted water cannon let loose on the front of the uphill structure, it was the
end for that wall, and it let go. I'm glad nobody was hurt in this fire.
Thanks for the comments ... I don't think the city has control over the hydrants ... That would be Aqua Pa's responsibilities ...Considering what they faced on arrival I'd say they did a great job ...
Hi, I'm just starting to explore this world of firefighting. You mentioned the frozen hydrants. How would whatever agency is responsible for maintaining them, keep them from freezing? Covers, or some special coating? Sincere question btw.
@@catbertz nothing. If its cold enough to freeze a hydrant only thing you can do is try and thaw it out later and find one that'll work in the interim
danke
YW
Damn abandoned buildings !
They are a pain
Damn. That ladder truck was lucky.
Yeah and that building burned again today ... Check my videos!
@@FDNY8231
Arson?
Cannot believe what I saw ff smoking.. while on duty unreal
Geeesh you don't get around much do you.
This appears to be a classic case of either urban renewal or a freak lightning strike. Take your pick.
Mice with matches!
Someone didn't kick their vig up to the big guy
Neither.
Or the more likely a bum burning something to stay warm and it went sideways in them
I'm just glad they finally figured out how to operate the squirt.
They did a great job
I know it keeps going up down up down side to side lol
What a great town this was up until the late 50's
yes absolutely
Because you haven't come to Reading...
Too much minorities or them getting too much to say in town’s affairs?
can someone help me with a question, would it be better to protect the exposures with graduated water or a fire Curtin rather than a huge deluge of water on the fire building given that the plugs are frozen you have tenders en route but not yet effective and the winds are what they are. let the fire building burn to the ground and protect exposures?
If there were space BETWEEN the buildings then a water curtain MAY be effective .... There wasn't in this case, so surround and drown was the only option. The fire was already in exposure 4 on arrival.
If you put the fire out there are no exposures. Thats the best bet so long as you have the ability to knockdown the fire with the flow available.
These row homes are very difficult to water curtain. I'm surprised that the vegetation didn't catch fire. That had to be really hot and toxic.
This was just a controlled burn of the whole block.
Somethins smokin in Shamokin.. Scott Jaymes Binsack
Yeppers
I use to drive up 901 to Pottsville to the Wegmans facility is that up in that area
About 15 miles from where Wegman's is located
I read about frozen hydrants in the comments. That's why most european fire brigades always have a tanker truck as first line of attack. Therefore fighting the fire can start always immediately without having to look for a hydrant. The tanker truck is then connected to a hydrant or water source to back it up and refill it. I advise USA fire fighters to consider the use of tankers.
While that works for you we normally have a real good supply of water to start the fire fight with. It just so happens that the cold weather can affect that system. In your case with tankers the water is trucked to the scene. What happens if there is a delay? The rig crashes, or is delayed by weather, or traffic. In our case 99% of the time our hydrants work just fine, and depending on location we call for tankers as a backup. Setting up for tanker operation takes time as well. If you watch the video I posted after this one you see exactly what I mean.
All engines in the US carry water for initial attack, typically 500-1000 gallons
'Smokin' PA'. Hydrants frozen and entire town covered in smoke.
It was!
Where is Shamokin located?
About 70 miles north of Harrisburg. Approximately
Correct
From Philly, it is about 100 miles to the northwest... and 40 years in the past.
It should be a crime to subject fire to such horrible conditions. What a shit hole.
Yeah those places were bad
Frozen hydrants!!!!!.........a big no no no in the on-going process of fire fighting. Don,t see many snorkel trucks on the structural end of things
.What is the boom reach fully extended???....Impressive machine never seen one used before other than aircraft penetration
While true it's a quite uncontrolled problem due to weather ...
@@FDNY8231 I got yeah frustrating as hell though eh?
Hats off to all fire people esp. working in the cold
Thank You!
Great job on the videoing! Was great to watch. Got a couple questions if you don't mind. Are you a Firefighter as well/part of the actual fire department? or are you a seperate entity?
Sencondly, That fire truck below you to the left with the boom arm, do the control the squirter with a remote control, or do they have to use controls on the truck? is there a camera on it as well or no?
Thanks! Hope you have a good one!
I am a FF of almost 50 years in a nearby department, and I believe they control the snorkel from the controls on the truck.
i forget did station 6 of Mount Carmel get dispatched to assist 37
Yes they did
Where is this ?
Shamokin, Pennsylvania
Is this town part of the "Rust Belt" where factories, and businesses closed, or moved?
I would say yes, but more the coal belt .... When coal was king
By that definition most of the United States has become the Rust Belt.
Common Sense Committee here….quick question… who is NOT in the collapse zone??? After the first building buckled then collapsed feet from that front rig…. Everything should’ve been repositioned and the hand line guys definitely should’ve been pushed back.
Thanks for the comments!
We are in dire trouble if you....are the self-appointed Common Sense Committee. You did not use Common Sense whatsoever appointing yourself as the Common Sense Committee.
Saved another basement
It was already from the first fire ....
Those ffs did well under the circumstances, good to know there were no injuries ✌
That You for the comments ...
People comment about materiel use to build houses. The massive amount of people wanting homes meant quick structures. Above ground hydrants. Well that means water supply to every neighborhood. That most countries do not have. The real issue is cities and towns go after fire department budgets first causing minimal manning levels. Anyways we have never worried about wars on our soil like most countries have
Amen brother
Yes , the first budget cuts are safety, police and fire departments ! Schools cut bussing!! Threatening the public's safety ,and getting kids to and from school!! If cities don't get their tax increases, there the first to go yet, they should be the last!!! Fire departments where around and paid for long before 90% of other government officials and agencies !! That's should tell you about your leaders!!
@@stevehamman4465 thanks Steve and I actually looked into my city's fire departments history. My city was the shoe capital of the world 1900s decades before and after. Neighborhood blocks of high brick structures with wood floors. I can imagine what those early firefighters went through. In 1981 or 82 my city had a major fire. Many 5 plus story high factory buildings burned in the Great Lynn Fire. It was my chance in life to witness what the bombings in ww2 did to cities. For years after that firefighters jobs were cut or not filled.
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So many questions........and as much as I try to not critique, I spent this entire video looking for a sense of urgency from anyone.
There really didn't need to be .... There were water issues, and the homes were vacant rundown structures which were collapse hazards to begin with. No need to rush ... Protect lives, and keep the FF out of harms way which they did. Great job SFB!
A common novice observation. Take the week off.
@@RLTtizME hey it could be worse... I could have commented on the boneheaded Telesquirt placement....and the 15 mins of attempts to maneuver the boom out from under the tree. But I'm sure those are common Fire God tactics....🙄
DBaggery has no limits. Well done Fireboy.
ONE hose on the ladder with bugger-all presure, flat hose on the ground, what gives?
The flat hose on the ground was due to a frozen fire hydrant going to the engine I was standing in front of ... They did eventually get water in those lines ....
You have a blind person running the second tower should get up higher and spray water on the Fire
They did eventually go up above ....
Just as well they were in the best place for a collapse.
Amen
They should have let that house burn. Why put water on it just to leave a smoking shell that will have to be torn down anyway.
Sometimes we'd like to do what you're suggesting, but unfortunately we can not do that. The fires have to be put out.
Why, don't fire Dept's fight fires from both sides to contain the fires instead of burning down the complete structure by only combating from only one side, great way to get fireman killed by not even watching the complete situation and reacting with offense instead of defense, just curious.
You speak with out knowing the entire story .... I was standing right next to an engine that came from the direction you said about. They operated their tank water, but was unable to continue due to a frozen fire hydrant. Later they did get water and operated from their position.
They also let vacant buildings that are condemned burn. This keeps drugs and transient people out of them. Then this causes the city to be forced to remove the burnt out structure.
Also they had great steak dinner
And they do
This was a fire that they gave up on.
This fire had a MASSIVE head start on them and then weather and water issues didn't help. Add on to that they were vacant rundowns ... They did the best they could in my opinion.
Build structures with wood without a sprinkler system and this is what happens. Governments could put a stop to this, as has Florida, but most refuse to do it.
When these were built I don't think sprinklers were part of any code ...
Florida doesn't have fires...? 😂🤣😅
What’s with the female firefighter with the long hair halfway down her fire jacket. Looks pretty unsafe to me
I believe these FF are not interior FF and as such can wear their hair in that fashion since not being close to the fire.
Sounds like close encounters of the fifth kind! 😅
Hehehe yeah
Were they making drugs in this house when it caught on fire?
It is unknown what the cause was/is yet
its all boarded up...let it burn
Too bad that couldn't be done ....
Real shame complete loss, just let it burn
I agree but unfortunately we can't just do that
F5
F&S ?????
I think I would be let that green house go up in a controlled burn instead of risk another collapse.
I would've collapsed eventually whether water was put on it or not as it was burned out from floor one up.
Why does a town of 7,000 people need SIX poorly-trained volunteer fire stations? One properly-trained and equipped professional fire station would be more than enough.
How can you say poorly trained? Do you KNOW these guys that you can say that? Also even a professional fire station as you say would not have done much better with conditions these guys faced on arrival ... Good day sir!
Please keep building from wood guys. Makes awesome fires. The wall around is more solid that the house, but who cares. We get great video's everytime from the USA. Love the above ground hydrants that freeze up too. Not to mention the overhead powerlines that block deployement of ladders.
That's how they were built back then.
Clearly you are unaware of how long those homes actually stood and how long power lines have been there. Any real reason for the sarcasm?
@@sueyost2046 Europeans do things better. Cough.
TJ: The USA has plenty of forests with wood for building nice houses. How much better is a fire in a brick or stone house? Masonry houses cost 2-3 times more expense. How does that help our housing shortage? Freezing hydrants are seldom a problem. What difference would it have made in this fire? None. Finally, buried power lines are much more expensive, and have half the service life of overhead lines. It's very easy to move a ladder truck a few yards/meters for clearance.
@@KB4QAA wieso wird in den USA noch immer alles mit Gas betrieben ..wenn da mal nen Leck ist brennt sofort alles ab 🙄 außerdem wieso wird nur mit Holz gebaut..das brennt doch wie Zunder...Hauptsache billig bauen 🙄🧐
Спасибо, что все сгорело??? Почему только один тушит, а десять пожарных ходят, круги мотают???
Пожаров было больше, чем вы можете увидеть на видео
@@FDNY8231 вот именно, а тушили когда уже все сгорело.