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"PRE-ARRIVAL" - Shamokin Fire Bureau - Car Fire - Weis Parking Lot
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2019
- SFB - Onscene - 10/13/19 - READ Further For More Details .. View In "HD"
One of my fire co. members called to say he had a vehicle on fire in the Weis Markets parking lot.
He was advised to call 911
I got him away from the burning vehicle as there was little to be done till the proper dispatched units arrived.
SFB Engine 11 Arrived and attacked the fire.
No injuries were reported ...
A valiant job was done by the police, and bystanders to attempt to extinguish the fire with portable extinguishers.
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I thought by the title of the video that the fire was "Shamokin" like smoking but with some flare not the actual name of the town... LMAO!!!!
Ha ... Nope name of the town :)
@@FDNY8231 They slowed it down a little.
what a smart comment made at 4:34. People wanna complain when vollys are so far behind but they dont wanna join and help out.
Amen
Come on Chief. Give the firemen the nozzle. We learn from experience on this job.
Yeah what's up with that
Absolutely.... Let the other two guys work the line & nozzle and stand back so you can have situational awareness and proper command. Also the voice in the video about the extinguisher is so correct. I was saying that to myself, stop wasting them. Its burning and those are not going to help it at that point.
LOL at the dude unlocking the door with keys.....
Bro, its gone.......
Hehe ... Yeah
If you can't get access to the source of the fire, in this case is under the hood, then don't waste your extinguishers.
True
Went to Weis's for groceries and ended up getting a new car.
It's AMAZING the things you can get at Weis's ... : O) Just kidding ;)
Pound for pound good quality dry chemical is the most powerful agent in portable extinguishers, but as it only inhibits combustion you still have fuel, oxygen and a lot of heat meaning you can get flash back or re-ignition. Also it's difficult to penetrate enclosed spaces, unlike Halon, which was useful as being a vapourising liquid could 'flood' an enclosed space but the semi-liquid nature of discharge meant it wasn't as effected by wind/draughts as CO2. This doesn't make the extinguishing attempts pointless though - even if you can't put it out if you can slow down the spread until a fire engine arrives you reduce the overall fire loss.
Well said brother
Dry powder extinguishers are good but they don't remove the heat which is why this kept on re-ignighting
Absolutely ... Water needed = Cooling :)
Amazing how many times people try to put out a vehicle fire with a class A-B-C dry chemical extinguisher just spraying it on the outside of the car or into the grille when the fire is under the hood and they can’t get a direct shot at it. I’ve seen it myself.
Absolutely
This is why smoking is bad for you.
Yes it is :)
I had a car on fire and fire department had a chop saw and made an 8 inch V notch in the hood and cut around the latch and hood was open in seconds. This FD doesn't have a chop saw? Sad when they don't have the tools to do the job, but work with what you got.
They have a saw, but the engine got out, and the ladder co. with the saw failed.
That car sure was Shamokin before the FDNY got there
Hehe yeah I'll say
If you can, always try and pop the engine hood and then use the extinguishers. There's too much structure around the engine to get it from the outside.
Brilliant. Except for the fact that the owner of the car didn't come out until the car was fully involved and AFTER the good Samaritan and Cop tried to put it out.
Since you obviously didn't notice that.
They rarely do
Get those guy's a saw! Lol nice catch man! Love the video's and still think FDNY shoulda hired you! 😉💪🚒
I totally agree on the FDNY part, but time goes ONE way ... Thanks for the comments! : o)
at lease there was someone trying to put the fire out instead of just standing there filming it and commenting on something you have no clue what to do
I agree they were trying! As for me not trying to and filming and commenting? I am an experienced firefighter with 43 years of service to my community, and we were not due on this call or I wouldn't have been filming, and you wouldn't have had the opportunity to even comment on this.
@@FDNY8231 Oh ok I was firefighter to and i could not stand around filming if i can try and help. Just my opinion.
@@FDNY8231 volunteers??
Nice guys, they even topped off the radiator water level before they left.
Service with a smile
If a 20 pound C02 extinguisher had been available you may have got it out going through the grill. But good attempts with dry chem
Yes that's possible
Did you ever actually see a firefighter reach in the drivers door and pull the hood latch open? There's no fire near the drivers door. Watching these fire videos convinces me NOBODY knows how to use a fire extinguisher.
I have and in the video there were two of the FF that tried by opening the drivers door (once they got a key) and pulling the handle. The problem is not in the passenger compartment, BUT the ENGINE compartment which is where the latch is actually located at. That cable coming FROM the passenger compartment has a rod in it and that is covered in a plastic coating and connected in the engine compartment to the latch. When the fire in the EC gets hot enough it will result in that plastic melting away from the latch and then the rod is USELESS and will no longer work in most cases. Trying as they did will let you know right away. They could've done this WAY sooner by taking the window BEFORE the fire was too hot then opening the hood and killing the fire. Like you said and I agree that none of them knew how to use the extinguishers properly.
@@FDNY8231 The windows was exactly what I was going to say. Considering the EC is already pouring so much smoke, it likely is a total loss at least as far as engine is concerned. Smashing the window with the extinguisher and then opening would of been what I'd of done, and would of not been much to the damage cost in grand scheme of things.
And agreed about the hood cable. It is just like a hand brake wire on a bicycle. Spiral steel wire inside a spiral wrapped steel core, which is then encased in a plastic tube. Once the tube is gone, the spiral outer core collapses when you try to apply tension on the cable.
@@r3tr0nic Agree a LOT cheaper to replace a window than the whole vehicle if they could've got the fire in early stages.
Name of the city is "Shamokin" that city was definitely Shamokin that day.
That it was!
Can the camera be shaken and waved around a bit more. I feel like the recording is too stable.
Yeah I'm sure ...
wheres the first due coming from, PHILLY , lmao
Hehe ... Maybe
Excellent video!
Thanks
B/C extinguishers are useless for fires that hot already.
Exactly
Why is the videographer standing downwind of the smoke? All that toxic smoke in your face is very dangerous. All you had to do was walk around to the otherside of the car.
Not the first time I've gotten smoke in the face ... Sometimes angle is important as if I had switched sides I would've had the sun IN the camera .... Worth the risk.
Why doesn’t anyone open the hood, before the fire starts gaining traction.
I believe the doors were locked at that point
SFB Engine 11 is a 1993 KME Falcon.
Still going
@@FDNY8231 Sweet, Dave! An old rig still going strong despite being 27 years old! Shamokin most likely has no plans to replace the old girl yet.
I prefer my cars cooked between medium rare to medium, this car is clearly medium well.
You know it
Bad job with the extinguisher!!!
How so?
Well they at least tried ...
When the fire brigade first arrive they aint exactly keen to put the fire out, they spend more time messing about with the hose. Our brigade in Britain starts putting out fires as soon as they arrive.
I don't know they seemed to be trying to with the extinguishers. Once the engine arrives they have to stretch and get water and that may take a few. This vehicle was not savable from the get go so rolling in spraying water (if they could've done that) would NOT have changed the outcome.
I have yet to see any ABC fire extinguisher put out any vehicle fire.
It will normally not work due to access to the fire and if the burning material is too hot (metal, etc) it will just re-ignite due to heat.
@@FDNY8231 I agree. I have had better luck using CO2 extinguishers on a vehicle motor fire myself and you don't have the irritating agent.
Nice!!
Thanks Brother : o)
I am watching from Elmira NY quick response from a volunteer fire department
Thanks for watching!
Word on the street is they called in a wizzard to open the hood
Yes after the latch melted and burned away :o)
you got me at 5:01 though I got a fire call and pagar was about to go off first second was my departments tone rest of it is diffents
Hehe ... It's a trip home without being there ... :o)
And that is why I carry 5 gallons of foam extinguishers
Don't think that would've worked here as you needed access to the engine compartment to get at the fire.
@@FDNY8231 I have a tool that I use to pierce the hood which allows me to insert the nozzle of the extinguisher. It works quite well and knocks it down easily then.
I'm really surprised Fire Departments don't invest in Airport type Fire Truck Technology with a piercing boom to go through the hood of the car without placing firefighters in direct harm's way of a possible explosion
My company (not due on this) has one we use for car fires ... They work!
@@FDNY8231 I think all Departments should use this especially with car fires on the highway be much safer for the crews
Amen to that brother
@@JakeW26 thanks man
KIA - Kill in Accident.
Hehe Yeah
Lol, that's a good one, although sadly, it's kind of true.
I don’t know why the guy with the camera doesn’t get out of the smoke so we can see it. The guy standing right in the smoke why doesn’t he simply move 10 feet the other way. I don’t get it.
How can the cameraman get rid of the smoke? If you mean me then you have to understand that I can not get in the way of the first responders who are operating the scene.
Its called a spreader bro that will get it open. Trust me radiator lights etc wont be a prob. 😎😂
Open says me tool :)
Funny how the smoke/steam follows the videographer all around. Annoying.
Hazards of the job :)
Try before you pry.
Owner was right there
nice great work
Wow - perhaps the firemen could learn something from this video. This is how it should be done. @
Thank You for your comments, but I don't think they did any better (in the linked video) except that the fire brigade was there as the video started, and were able to get water on quickly.
@@FDNY8231 Hi my friend. The guy you could see in video was the fire chief. He is alone and is arrives normally just before the trucks arrives. Often he is called out from home. You can see the first truck arrive and just check the time stamp. Anyway my point is that i don't understand why US fire trucks don't have these 2 X 100m high presure hoses and onboard water. It saves a lot of minutes.
@@rp31688 More often than not, they have a 1 3/4" trash line in the bumper that's just as good if not better. In this particular engine, they pulled a pre connect crosslay.
Cops and their fire extinguishers...
You know it!
Need foam extinguishers. Dry powder has no cooling ability.
Yup ...
Car fire evacuate the area a small spot fire try to fight it
can you hear all the people coughing a car is not worth your life
Unless it’s a Kia Sportage.
That's why we have the FD
What causes a car 🔥 like this? I take good care of my car but it's a healthy 21 year-old 99 Camry. Those minivans can go a long time
Pretty much anything from faulty wires, to any moving part, and there are quite a few ... Your Camry is built tough, and should go for quite a few more years with regular maintenance.
The most likely thing is that the covering over the wires wore away, starting an electrical fire. Could have also been an oil or coolant line dripping on an electrical wire.
Why didn't they just pull the hood release? If that didn't work, then cut the hinges with the jaws of life.
Plastic around the hood release cable was melted rendering that unusable, and the engines in this department don't carry jaws, and the rescue while dispatched failed due to lack of manpower.
Forget how to pop a hood, as a 16 year old
That one couldn't be opened due to the cable burning away
People are so dumb these days open the damn hood
If you read a few of these comments maybe you'll understand why the could NOT open the hood.
@@FDNY8231 yeah before the fire started spreading they could of open the hood
@@trandizzle5 That I totally agree with, but it was locked and owner not there. By the time they got the key it the hood cable was already burnt thru.
More powder on himself than the fire!
True
Who who who whoooo got the hood up?
One of the ff managed to open it but i had stopped filming briefly to move my car so i missed it.