Sebagai penabuh gamelan, saya tidak melihat mereka memainkan gamelan seperti orang jawa, tapi mereka punya bakat sendiri. Kreatifitas yang mereka racik ke dalam instrumen gamelan patut mendapatkan apresiasi. Salam Budaya
Itu ketukan ala Sunda mas .. tp di aransemen ulang .. judul lagunya mojang Priangan . Tp banyak kesamaan antara ketukan Jawa dan Sunda .. SPT tembang Kinanti gambuh pelog dandang gula dll .. dari keduanya tembang itu ada ..
Thank you for your interest in Gamelan, Space City guys. At least, by now we (Indonesian and especially Javanese people) knew that we still have Gamelan set somewhere in the different part of earth. So, when there is no more gamelan here we can SEE you guys playing Gamelan for us. (sing komen negatif kudune mikir, iki carane mas-mas mbak-mbak kuwi ngapresiasi senine dhewe. Malah dinyinyiri. mbok yen pinter ojo nemen-nemen, keminter kaya yak-yak o)
I like it!! Cause I'm Gigi Pingky Prasetyo Javanese people from Lumajang, Jawa Timur. Gamelan is beautiful and Unix music! Thank very much for playing on the TEDx, you're smart people!!!
That is gamelan from Central Java Indonesia, but that gamelan is not the complete set. But I do appreciate people who play the gamelan and off course the composer. I am Javanese and in my family my mom is one of percussion called 'kendang' in Javanese and Indonesian language. Thank you for posting.
thank you, every arrangement, or composer, have their own sense of art, please go on, you can mix, sundanese rhytm, java, bali, west rythm, together, up to u
Physically this is gamelan, but not the original one. The original one using unique pentatonic scales such as pelog, salendro, and madenda. The gamelan shown here is using standard diatonic scale. It sounds like gamelan, but doesn't feel like gamelan.
Hmmm .. I am sorry Ade I have to say that your statement is 100% wrong!! you are talking about pentatonic scale also it's not only pelog, salendro, madenda but there is mataraman, pelog degung, etc ( you knew it aren't you ), so please do not mixed between pelog as a tone scale with the term of gamelan pelog.. it totally different, this gamelan is Pelog in Degung range, you know that "javanese gamelan pelog" has 7 tones ! if you scale from hi to low its gone be like 5+(Leu), 1(Da), 2(Mi), 3-(Ni), 3 (Na), 4 (Ti), 5 (La) Sunda, 1(Ji), 2(Ro), 3(Lu), 4(Pat), 5(Mo), 6(Nem), 7(Pi) Jawa ( Tengah & Timur) (mohon maaf tuk seniman Jawa apabila ada kesalahan ejaan), so please be careful to gave a statement, please visit my you tube page " gatot winandar" to have more chatting with me. peace!!
Hello Gatot, thank you for the correction! Something I want to explain here: - I'm a sundanese, and I'm not an artist nor musician, just love to play music. That's why I don't have so much knowledge about javenese gamelan, that's just what I learned in my Sundanese culture. So I accept the correction and it will be better if you're not judging me "100% wrong" :) - Those guys in this video plays "Mojang Priangan" in the beginning, which makes me automatically assume that they are trying to plays sundanese gamelan. - This kind of gamelan is also popular nowadays in sundanese (which has full 7 notes per octave, do re mi lah ya), but It's more like "contemporary" or "modernized" gamelan, giving more freedom to the composer and players to be more creative. Because the original traditional one is really strict with much rules.. (as far as I know, again, I'm not an artist or a professional musician, so I'm sorry for any mistakes here :)
Patrick McLoughlin lmao no it doesn't, it just sounds diatonic. malaysian schools use diatonic gamelan and never have i ever thought of it as "white" :/ if anything, it sounds like foreigners are appreciating nusantaran music more than nusantaran themselves. grow up
kamu sehat?????? apa cuma karna mereka memainkan musik gamelan lantas kau sebut maling? harusnya kita bangga karna ada bangsa lain yg begitu menghargai budaya kita. Bahkan divideo mereka menyebut gamelan berasal dari Indonesia.
Amazing, the Sundanese Gamelan always can be adapted in Diatonic Scale and Modern touch. It's the reason why Sundanese Music loved by everybody and foreigners. I am sure they can play the classic Numbers in slow beat as they presented on This Video. Bravo for all of you.
hi, i'm indonesian, thanks for Space City Gamelan for sharing our beautifull GAMELAN to the world. we appreciated of you. WONDERFULL INDONESIA, WONDERFULL WORLD.
when between traditional one and modern one meet, here's one of the result; I know traditional one must be keep for eternity, but how can you not made a branch from the root? and create a new genre out of there? I'm more ashamed as Javanese, if they alone will create a new style to play Gamelan before us as native Javanese or even Indonesian; because, even in a certain country has also traditional modern one without neglecting the traditional one; Proud of you guys!!
@@Nikotile I think Brainanda is expressing frustration at the lack of innovation in Java pushing the genre forward. Sometimes gamelan is treated as something to do only in the traditional way.
Wow.,..wow.... ..gamelan iki nggo nyedake awak nang sing kuoso nggawe urip iku sing diajarne sunan kalijogo....ono ning uni nong luwih dicedake neh malah disampekne iku ajarane syeh siti jenar....dadi nek mulai ning mulai zikiran sampai ketujuan nong....makane wong sak ndonyo iki akeh sing seneng soale ancen langitan gamelan kuwi....
Love this ! You guys are great, really like your style, and the compositions. . . I lived for 10 yrs in Indo and am really familiar with all the trad music. . . So lovely to hear some new tasty tunes played by an enthusiastic orchestra. . . Mantap !!!
saya sedih banget, saya sebagai pemuda indonesia tidak bisa memainkan gamelan, saya bisa memainkan gamelan hanya pada waktu saya masih duduk dibangku SD.. malah orang luar yang memainkan dan mengembangkan gamelan, saya malu.. saya tidak mau kalah dari orang orang yang ada di video, dan saya juga suatu saat akan bisa lebih dari orang orang yang ada di video.. i love nusantara..
Azzis Arswendo Podo mas,,, Aku yo isin... T_T" Buapak ku tiap malem senin dan rabu selalu rutin main gamelan sama kelompoknya, tp kenapa cuma buapak-buapak yg minat? Ada apa dengan ku? wong jowo ra mudheng jawane...
I think this gamelan lost it roots. The sets of the gamelan is Javanese, but played as Sundanese. I don't know what scale that used in the performance, but I think it was standardized nearly to western scale, not both of Sundanese or Javanese.
No problem. Gini mas, kaya musik2 barat (kaya lagu pop, metal, reggae dll) itupun sebenernya musik tradisionalnya orang barat, tapi seluruh dunia memainkan dengan caranya masing2. Namanya inovasi, bukan berarti meninggalkan akar.
This seems more like my toddler playing on his xylophone than the complex harmonics involved in traditional gamelan music, the sort of which had a massive influence on composers such as Debussy, Satie, and Ravel. Also, the tuning of the instruments is too precise, which robs the music of an important part of its ethereal quality.
I think that's an overly critical comment. The performance is too good to go comparing it to a toddler on a xylophone. That's mean spirited. The tuning does seem closer to diatonic though, I think you're right about that, I wonder what the origin of this set is. Really, gamelan didn't have a massive influence on Debussy, Satie, or Ravel. It had very little influence, which gets very overstated. They saw one Javanese gamelan performance and thought it was great, but their music before and after was pretty much the same. That story gets told a million times whenever someone prints a program to a gamelan concert... McPhee and Glass are better examples of gamelan influencing Western music, they studied it very consciously and applied lessons to their own music
@@esterhammerfic Even taking away the microtonality that is central to Balinese and Javanese gamelan music, this is nowhere near the level of something like American Gamelan by Lou Harrison. But as mentioned, you're better off listening to McPhee, who spent years living in Bali with his anthropologist wife. It's well-documented, though, that Ravel and other members of "Les Apaches" frequently discussed and explored gamelan music. Ma Mère L'oye shows the influence quite explicitly, particularly on Laideronnette, Empress of the Pagodas, but you could also hear it in places like the pizzicato of his String Quartet in F Major. When you put this performance in the context of this history of "Orientalism," it simply sounds childish. And when you compare it to actual gamelan performances, it doesn't even dilute the sense of appropriation and exoticism of the Impressionists with at least the same seriousness of purpose.
@@pmfnr I think there's issues that are valid that you mention but I also think you're being overly critical of this particular performance. Gamelan players from Java and Bali don't have this kind of protectionism, they're almost always happy when their music is shared abroad. It's never going to have the same nuances because the American performers didn't grow up in that intensive culture. As for the performance in the video, it seems to take American and Latin influences. Nothing wrong with that. That leads to less shifting tempos but a stronger backbeat, a little like Sundanese gamelan. As for Les Apaches, they met from about 1903 until 1910 as far as I've read. I don't think there were any recordings available in the west until about ten years after that, so if the idea is that they just kept analysing from memory a single performance in 1889, I don't know if that's very realistic. Regarding Ravel's String Quartet, when Ravel saw the Paris Exposition performance, he was only 14. And he didn't write that string quartet until 13 years later... so maybe it had an influence, or maybe he was being influenced by the hemiolas of gregorian chant and the plucked guitars of spanish music. No way to tell, and I haven't seen any account of him mentioning gamelan as an influence himself.
sumpah merinding gue liat n dnger.ny......ampek netesin aer mata. profesional bgt mski wrga negara asing main.ny........ salut skaligus bangga gue jd org indonesia n mski yg gue bisa cm maen kendang n kenong kempul ajh.
secara karakter memang beda banget dengan musik gamelan yang dimainkan org Jawa. ga usah jauh2x org bule, afrika, arab, atua latin mislanya. org Batak main musik gamelan pun pasti ada terasa beda dibandingkan kalo dimainkan oleh org Jawa. lain juga rasanya didengar kalo dimainkan orang Dayak, org Papua, org Maluku. ga beda seperti misalnya kita org asia main musik metal, jazz, blues, orkestra. tentu ada karakter yg terasa beda. disinilah indahnya perbedaan, karena disitulah yg memperkaya budaya dunia. mari saling menghargai pertukaran budaya seperti ini. saya orang Jawa bangga dgn adanya penampilan seperti ini
Ingin lebih? Buka youtube saya (dwija laras SMPN 6 Kediri). Lebih dari 70 video berisi gending-gending mulai dari yang sederhana semacam lancaran dan langgam hingga yang sulit sperti palaran, ladrang, ketawang dan jineman lengkap dengan vokal dari para sinden, dimainkan langsung oleh anak-anak seusia SMP. Beberapa merupakan proses penggarapan iringan tari (tari Gladen, tari Karonsih, dsb) dan wayang kulit. Semua merupakan permainan gamelan secara langsung/live, baik di sanggar ataupun ditempat-tampat lain saat tampil/lomba. Selamat menikmati.
i think a culture needs to be appropriated for the sake of its own longevity. However, Malaysian has gamelan too. It's more appropriate to call it a Nusantara music. Good work, guys.
There are different varieties of Gamelan. It's better to identify them to be specific, because each of them is different. Balinese gamelan, Javanese gamelan, Sundanese gamelan, Surakartan gamelan, etc. I'm sure Malaysia also has unique varieties. Calling them all Nusantara is too broad.
Kita harus berterima kasih kepada mereka di barat yang berminat dalam seni musik Gamelan. Memang benar ia jauh dari yang aslinya, tetapi mereka bukan orang Jawa atau Bali. Juga harus di terima saja komen yang negatif dari mereka yang mungkin buta huruf musik timur atau sudah pasti dengan sifat prejudis.
This is the keywords for anybody who want to search in internet to listen some javanesse musics: langgam jawa, gendhing jawa, campursari, gamelan, karawitan, keroncong, pagelaran wayang kulit, dangdut, or may be anybody want to add more?
I'm sorry to say this. Even though I'm malaysian this gamelan doesn't sound like either java or bali and absolutely didn't sound like pahang or Terengganu gamelan. I love indonesian gamelan and this make me feel sad for indonesia.
why did you feel sad for us? they played sunda 'style'. in the second song you could hear the flute with sunda rythm. sunda style and bali have fast beat and central java (jogja-solo) famous for slow beat. the second and the rest i'm guessing not a traditional song...but that's okay for us..here in indonesia, in jogja or solo or other place, some local artists do the same..
bimo sukresno They play it not with the way we play it. It feels sooo western. I cant believe the speaker said that they play "the ancient style". Same instruments dont make you play the same music. Guitar can be used to play rock, jazz, reggae etc. So as these instruments.
I feel proud when people from other countries appreciate our culture, but I feel sad at the same time when they didn't do it in traditional way, this is not original gamelan, this version is modernized, I didn't feel "the gamelan feel" at all, which for me the original they always sound magical and sacred. but I only familiar with Sundanese gamelan, I didn't know much about Javanese gamelan though, but I thank them nonetheless for appreciating our culture.
Kl generasi muda kita sdh gak peduli dg budaya kita jangan salahkan suatu saat mereka bisa menciptakan lagu /tembang Jawa & aransemennya lalu dipatenkan....mestinya pemerintah memberi fasilitas yg lebih banyak utk latihan gending dibanyak tempat misalnya di tiap sekolah tingkat dasar atau lanjutan atau tiap kelurahan...
Urang ge urang sunda ..te bisa nakol gong2 acan....suling ker letik di ajar...sekarang poho dei....👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤TERBAIK👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Orang Indonesia khususnya Jawa sudah banyak yang tidak suka dengan Gamelan, apa lagi generasi muda yang sudah mulai trend dengan lagu-lagu barat ditengah orang-orang barat yang belajar gamelan.
Tasimun Padma ,justru menurutku sekarang lebih maju,perkebangan karawita...di tempat saya sragen anak sd saja sudah fasih main gamelan dan di tiap sekolahan sd sudah punya gamelan lengkap
Don't especially like this, though I applaud these guys for experimenting. Original gamelan music, or Western adaptations that stay closer to the original (e.g. by Colin McPhee) are, for me, much more satisfying to listen to (and nostalgic).
Sebagai penabuh gamelan, saya tidak melihat mereka memainkan gamelan seperti orang jawa, tapi mereka punya bakat sendiri. Kreatifitas yang mereka racik ke dalam instrumen gamelan patut mendapatkan apresiasi. Salam Budaya
Gamelan sunda... Musik mojang priangan.... Parahyangan... Rahayu...
Itu ketukan ala Sunda mas .. tp di aransemen ulang .. judul lagunya mojang Priangan . Tp banyak kesamaan antara ketukan Jawa dan Sunda .. SPT tembang Kinanti gambuh pelog dandang gula dll .. dari keduanya tembang itu ada ..
Anggap ae campursari bosss
Entahlah , yg saya tangkap seperti irama (?) Bali , tapi dimainkan pakai gamelan Jawa.
@@Julis9526 itu lagunya lagu sunda, dan di bali sering memutar gamelan sunda, klau ada yg nanya, orang bali pasti bilang itu gamelan bali.
Thank you for loving and playing such a beautiful sound and composition of gamelan...Respect and love from West Java...
Respect and love from east java too
Request despocito,"❤from indonesia,"❤
wow as an indonesian i am so proud, the song is called Mojang Priangan.
O yes 👍
Thank you for your interest in Gamelan, Space City guys. At least, by now we (Indonesian and especially Javanese people) knew that we still have Gamelan set somewhere in the different part of earth. So, when there is no more gamelan here we can SEE you guys playing Gamelan for us.
(sing komen negatif kudune mikir, iki carane mas-mas mbak-mbak kuwi ngapresiasi senine dhewe. Malah dinyinyiri. mbok yen pinter ojo nemen-nemen, keminter kaya yak-yak o)
Wow, this is crazy, this is the first time I've seen our country's instruments being played by players from other countries. I thank this channel
There is a group here in Buffalo, NY that has 16,000 pounds of instruments! Gamelan is taking over the world 😊
@@JDSabre amazing I'm still learning in the role of playing the gamelan
Yes, there are many gamelan groups now all over the world. . . Many people love gamelan. . .
I like it!! Cause I'm Gigi Pingky Prasetyo Javanese people from Lumajang, Jawa Timur. Gamelan is beautiful and Unix music! Thank very much for playing on the TEDx, you're smart people!!!
That is gamelan from Central Java Indonesia, but that gamelan is not the complete set. But I do appreciate people who play the gamelan and off course the composer. I am Javanese and in my family my mom is one of percussion called 'kendang' in Javanese and Indonesian language. Thank you for posting.
No, this piece is not from Central Java but from West Java, the song is mojang priangan, a Sundanese song.
thank you, every arrangement, or composer, have their own sense of art, please go on, you can mix, sundanese rhytm, java, bali, west rythm, together, up to u
I love indonesia 💛💜💓❤💙👍👍
Ha ha 😂...
Physically this is gamelan, but not the original one. The original one using unique pentatonic scales such as pelog, salendro, and madenda. The gamelan shown here is using standard diatonic scale. It sounds like gamelan, but doesn't feel like gamelan.
Hmmm .. I am sorry Ade I have to say that your statement is 100% wrong!! you are talking about pentatonic scale also it's not only pelog, salendro, madenda but there is mataraman, pelog degung, etc ( you knew it aren't you ), so please do not mixed between pelog as a tone scale with the term of gamelan pelog.. it totally different, this gamelan is Pelog in Degung range, you know that "javanese gamelan pelog" has 7 tones ! if you scale from hi to low its gone be like 5+(Leu), 1(Da), 2(Mi), 3-(Ni), 3 (Na), 4 (Ti), 5 (La) Sunda, 1(Ji), 2(Ro), 3(Lu), 4(Pat), 5(Mo), 6(Nem), 7(Pi) Jawa ( Tengah & Timur) (mohon maaf tuk seniman Jawa apabila ada kesalahan ejaan), so please be careful to gave a statement, please visit my you tube page " gatot winandar" to have more chatting with me. peace!!
Hello Gatot, thank you for the correction! Something I want to explain here:
- I'm a sundanese, and I'm not an artist nor musician, just love to play music. That's why I don't have so much knowledge about javenese gamelan, that's just what I learned in my Sundanese culture. So I accept the correction and it will be better if you're not judging me "100% wrong" :)
- Those guys in this video plays "Mojang Priangan" in the beginning, which makes me automatically assume that they are trying to plays sundanese gamelan.
- This kind of gamelan is also popular nowadays in sundanese (which has full 7 notes per octave, do re mi lah ya), but It's more like "contemporary" or "modernized" gamelan, giving more freedom to the composer and players to be more creative. Because the original traditional one is really strict with much rules.. (as far as I know, again, I'm not an artist or a professional musician, so I'm sorry for any mistakes here :)
+gatot winandar wih hebat gamelan jawa mendunis
Patrick McLoughlin lmao no it doesn't, it just sounds diatonic. malaysian schools use diatonic gamelan and never have i ever thought of it as "white" :/ if anything, it sounds like foreigners are appreciating nusantaran music more than nusantaran themselves. grow up
Gamelan Sunda apa sama dgn Gamelan Jawa ?
as a javanese, i appreciate your effort a lot... love and respect from me to all of you.. a good gamelan guru will make you guys play it better tho :)
Kagum dan salut ama mereka yg mau lebih. membudayakan alat traditional gamelan, sedangkan org kita sndiri blm mau yach.....
Great work
As a gamelan player , I'm proud of u guys :D
Fujiwara Misaki mengapa harus bangga...mereka maling nih...enak enaknya mencuri budaya kita..harus di laporan sama kedutaan nih
kamu sehat?????? apa cuma karna mereka memainkan musik gamelan lantas kau sebut maling? harusnya kita bangga karna ada bangsa lain yg begitu menghargai budaya kita. Bahkan divideo mereka menyebut gamelan berasal dari Indonesia.
+hang tuah GOBLOK... KEBANGETAN
hang tuah typical indonesian
hang tuah yall stole our culture a lot
I recommend listening to actual gamelan music.
Amazing, the Sundanese Gamelan always can be adapted in Diatonic Scale and Modern touch. It's the reason why Sundanese Music loved by everybody and foreigners. I am sure they can play the classic Numbers in slow beat as they presented on This Video. Bravo for all of you.
hi, i'm indonesian, thanks for Space City Gamelan for sharing our beautifull GAMELAN to the world. we appreciated of you. WONDERFULL INDONESIA, WONDERFULL WORLD.
her hand is screaming "IM NERVOUS, GET ME OUTTA HERE"
but her face is like "i can do this, im awesome"
when between traditional one and modern one meet, here's one of the result;
I know traditional one must be keep for eternity, but how can you not made a branch from the root? and create a new genre out of there?
I'm more ashamed as Javanese, if they alone will create a new style to play Gamelan before us as native Javanese or even Indonesian; because,
even in a certain country has also traditional modern one without neglecting the traditional one;
Proud of you guys!!
Actually, a lot of people in Java still listen to and play gamelan.
@@Nikotile I think Brainanda is expressing frustration at the lack of innovation in Java pushing the genre forward. Sometimes gamelan is treated as something to do only in the traditional way.
@@esterhammerfic I see. It was my bad. If it's regarding the lack of innovation, I have to agree as well
Wow.,..wow....
..gamelan iki nggo nyedake awak nang sing kuoso nggawe urip iku sing diajarne sunan kalijogo....ono ning uni nong luwih dicedake neh malah disampekne iku ajarane syeh siti jenar....dadi nek mulai ning mulai zikiran sampai ketujuan nong....makane wong sak ndonyo iki akeh sing seneng soale ancen langitan gamelan kuwi....
Love this ! You guys are great, really like your style, and the compositions. . . I lived for 10 yrs in Indo and am really familiar with all the trad music. . . So lovely to hear some new tasty tunes played by an enthusiastic orchestra. . . Mantap !!!
Amazing...always love Gamelan..
saya sedih banget, saya sebagai pemuda indonesia tidak bisa memainkan gamelan, saya bisa memainkan gamelan hanya pada waktu saya masih duduk dibangku SD.. malah orang luar yang memainkan dan mengembangkan gamelan, saya malu..
saya tidak mau kalah dari orang orang yang ada di video, dan saya juga suatu saat akan bisa lebih dari orang orang yang ada di video..
i love nusantara..
Mantabsss!! that what i am talking about .. the spirit of Indonesian youth..!
Podo mas... aku yo sedih
Azzis Arswendo Podo mas,,, Aku yo isin... T_T"
Buapak ku tiap malem senin dan rabu selalu rutin main gamelan sama kelompoknya, tp kenapa cuma buapak-buapak yg minat?
Ada apa dengan ku? wong jowo ra mudheng jawane...
Eventhough not complete, this is fascinating
I love this music so it sounds so good I love it it sounds amazing
Very nice comment
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very nice, their musicality r great.. thank u
Alunan sayu nuansa mistik terasa indah,"❤merasuk jiwa sungguh gamelan menakjubkan uniknya,"❤sajian ilusi exotic tiada tara,"❤nice gamelan beautifull,"❤
I think this gamelan lost it roots. The sets of the gamelan is Javanese, but played as Sundanese. I don't know what scale that used in the performance, but I think it was standardized nearly to western scale, not both of Sundanese or Javanese.
That because is not a classic gamelan but a evolution of it. And in my opinion it doesn't sounds bad. It is pretty awesome.
No problem.
Gini mas, kaya musik2 barat (kaya lagu pop, metal, reggae dll) itupun sebenernya musik tradisionalnya orang barat, tapi seluruh dunia memainkan dengan caranya masing2.
Namanya inovasi, bukan berarti meninggalkan akar.
@@etunyunyu Mereka juga punya musik tradisional. Sementara pop, metal, dan sebagainya juga merupakan hal yang baru.
This seems more like my toddler playing on his xylophone than the complex harmonics involved in traditional gamelan music, the sort of which had a massive influence on composers such as Debussy, Satie, and Ravel. Also, the tuning of the instruments is too precise, which robs the music of an important part of its ethereal quality.
+pmfnr this x1000000000000000.....
Not to mention Colin McPhee (Canadian) and Benjamin Britten.
I think that's an overly critical comment. The performance is too good to go comparing it to a toddler on a xylophone. That's mean spirited. The tuning does seem closer to diatonic though, I think you're right about that, I wonder what the origin of this set is.
Really, gamelan didn't have a massive influence on Debussy, Satie, or Ravel. It had very little influence, which gets very overstated. They saw one Javanese gamelan performance and thought it was great, but their music before and after was pretty much the same. That story gets told a million times whenever someone prints a program to a gamelan concert... McPhee and Glass are better examples of gamelan influencing Western music, they studied it very consciously and applied lessons to their own music
@@esterhammerfic Even taking away the microtonality that is central to Balinese and Javanese gamelan music, this is nowhere near the level of something like American Gamelan by Lou Harrison. But as mentioned, you're better off listening to McPhee, who spent years living in Bali with his anthropologist wife.
It's well-documented, though, that Ravel and other members of "Les Apaches" frequently discussed and explored gamelan music. Ma Mère L'oye shows the influence quite explicitly, particularly on Laideronnette, Empress of the Pagodas, but you could also hear it in places like the pizzicato of his String Quartet in F Major.
When you put this performance in the context of this history of "Orientalism," it simply sounds childish. And when you compare it to actual gamelan performances, it doesn't even dilute the sense of appropriation and exoticism of the Impressionists with at least the same seriousness of purpose.
@@pmfnr I think there's issues that are valid that you mention but I also think you're being overly critical of this particular performance. Gamelan players from Java and Bali don't have this kind of protectionism, they're almost always happy when their music is shared abroad. It's never going to have the same nuances because the American performers didn't grow up in that intensive culture.
As for the performance in the video, it seems to take American and Latin influences. Nothing wrong with that. That leads to less shifting tempos but a stronger backbeat, a little like Sundanese gamelan.
As for Les Apaches, they met from about 1903 until 1910 as far as I've read. I don't think there were any recordings available in the west until about ten years after that, so if the idea is that they just kept analysing from memory a single performance in 1889, I don't know if that's very realistic.
Regarding Ravel's String Quartet, when Ravel saw the Paris Exposition performance, he was only 14. And he didn't write that string quartet until 13 years later... so maybe it had an influence, or maybe he was being influenced by the hemiolas of gregorian chant and the plucked guitars of spanish music. No way to tell, and I haven't seen any account of him mentioning gamelan as an influence himself.
Great gamelan sound... Was that a cajon drum and other western percussion in the rhythm section as well? What great complimentry sounds.
I saw a djembe, and definitely hear cajon. It’s interesting to hear a mix of east meets west in this.
thanks for enjoying playing gamelan, from Jogja, Indonesia :')
sumpah merinding gue liat n dnger.ny......ampek netesin aer mata.
profesional bgt mski wrga negara asing main.ny........
salut skaligus bangga gue jd org indonesia n mski yg gue bisa cm maen kendang n kenong kempul ajh.
I love it...
Terima kasih banyak untuk dedikasinya ^^
Love from Indonesia!
secara karakter memang beda banget dengan musik gamelan yang dimainkan org Jawa. ga usah jauh2x org bule, afrika, arab, atua latin mislanya. org Batak main musik gamelan pun pasti ada terasa beda dibandingkan kalo dimainkan oleh org Jawa. lain juga rasanya didengar kalo dimainkan orang Dayak, org Papua, org Maluku. ga beda seperti misalnya kita org asia main musik metal, jazz, blues, orkestra. tentu ada karakter yg terasa beda. disinilah indahnya perbedaan, karena disitulah yg memperkaya budaya dunia. mari saling menghargai pertukaran budaya seperti ini. saya orang Jawa bangga dgn adanya penampilan seperti ini
Ingin lebih? Buka youtube saya (dwija laras SMPN 6 Kediri). Lebih dari 70 video berisi gending-gending mulai dari yang sederhana semacam lancaran dan langgam hingga yang sulit sperti palaran, ladrang, ketawang dan jineman lengkap dengan vokal dari para sinden, dimainkan langsung oleh anak-anak seusia SMP. Beberapa merupakan proses penggarapan iringan tari (tari Gladen, tari Karonsih, dsb) dan wayang kulit. Semua merupakan permainan gamelan secara langsung/live, baik di sanggar ataupun ditempat-tampat lain saat tampil/lomba. Selamat menikmati.
Moh. Tohir luar biasa
Siap mas .. ini ketukan gamelan versi Sunda dengan judul mojang Priangan ..
Ko cakap bahasa indo, orang bulek tak faham la haha
Nuwun sewu..nderek mirsani nggeh pak..
i think a culture needs to be appropriated for the sake of its own longevity. However, Malaysian has gamelan too. It's more appropriate to call it a Nusantara music. Good work, guys.
There are different varieties of Gamelan. It's better to identify them to be specific, because each of them is different. Balinese gamelan, Javanese gamelan, Sundanese gamelan, Surakartan gamelan, etc. I'm sure Malaysia also has unique varieties. Calling them all Nusantara is too broad.
Definitely agree 🙏
Kita harus berterima kasih kepada mereka di barat yang berminat dalam seni musik Gamelan. Memang benar ia jauh dari yang aslinya, tetapi mereka bukan orang Jawa atau Bali. Juga harus di terima saja komen yang negatif dari mereka yang mungkin buta huruf musik timur atau sudah pasti dengan sifat prejudis.
the 1st song is: Mojang Priangan (Priangan girl).. nice and attractive performance.. beautiful
Mendengarkan musik tradisional sepwrti gamelan ini seperti terkena sihir. Manakjibkan seakan dibawa kealam bawah sadar
Psychotropic jungle lullaby 🥹😂😍 I love Gamelan music! Thank you for sharing more info about the art form after your performance.
Iki alate gamelan. Ning nganggo tanda nada dan cara main variasine dewe. Lumayan,, apik..
WOW amazing beautiful piece of art im goosebum.. thank you for playing gamelan :)
Saya bangga banget jadi orang Jawa.... I LOVE JAWA
Thank you, I love this video.. ❤
I like the way they enjoy the music of the gamelan .
Thanks so much ...
based on the other comments i can't tell whether or not this is sarcasm
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Saya selaku wong jowo asli Jawa timur, sangat terharu 😢😢.
terbaikkkk ah...korang buat aku suka dengan alat musik ni..
original heavy metal..love it
More like progressive rock
Amazing.. !!
Good job my friend.. weldone ..!!! Nice video my friend 👍👍
Iya , .betul budaya gameullan kita di ibaratkan seperti pohon tercabut dari akarnya,.sallam seni budaya sunda..
very good, with etnic sunda-jawa-bali, ....something interesting for me..
This so beautyful
kita harus bangga jadi bangsa indonesia. terutama Jawa... kondang to
I'm sorry to say this. Even though I'm malaysian this gamelan doesn't sound like either java or bali and absolutely didn't sound like pahang or Terengganu gamelan. I love indonesian gamelan and this make me feel sad for indonesia.
1st they play sundanese song (one of tribe in Java), its called "mojang priangan"
why did you feel sad for us? they played sunda 'style'. in the second song you could hear the flute with sunda rythm. sunda style and bali have fast beat and central java (jogja-solo) famous for slow beat. the second and the rest i'm guessing not a traditional song...but that's okay for us..here in indonesia, in jogja or solo or other place, some local artists do the same..
bimo sukresno They play it not with the way we play it. It feels sooo western. I cant believe the speaker said that they play "the ancient style". Same instruments dont make you play the same music. Guitar can be used to play rock, jazz, reggae etc. So as these instruments.
Can I use the material from your video for documentary that I made for assignment purpose? This is a non commercial project.
This is awesome! Tank you for sharing!!
Chuck is a star!
this is gamelan as music instrument, good
Sangat bagus sekali , terimakasih banyak
mas bro, mba sist! kalian keren bangett 👍👍👍
really ....so ..amazing...
Keren ya.. thanks to all player 👍👍👍
the first song is Mojang Priangan (West Java Girl). AFAIK, Gamelan played by men.
Thanks ....my world family
Woow,,,amazing,,,,
Mojang priangan
Nice, New compotition of gamelan💪,
I feel proud when people from other countries appreciate our culture, but I feel sad at the same time when they didn't do it in traditional way, this is not original gamelan, this version is modernized, I didn't feel "the gamelan feel" at all, which for me the original they always sound magical and sacred. but I only familiar with Sundanese gamelan, I didn't know much about Javanese gamelan though, but I thank them nonetheless for appreciating our culture.
The bells are tuned to the East, but the players have Western musical habits.
Title: Mojang Priangan (Sundanese)
From: Sundanese, West java Indonesia
Kl generasi muda kita sdh gak peduli dg budaya kita jangan salahkan suatu saat mereka bisa menciptakan lagu /tembang Jawa & aransemennya lalu dipatenkan....mestinya pemerintah memberi fasilitas yg lebih banyak utk latihan gending dibanyak tempat misalnya di tiap sekolah tingkat dasar atau lanjutan atau tiap kelurahan...
gila keren bangeeeeeetttt...
2019, Nice performance,
Wonderful Indonesia
Wow....amazing..👍👍👍
Urang ge urang sunda ..te bisa nakol gong2 acan....suling ker letik di ajar...sekarang poho dei....👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤TERBAIK👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Wow... great...!!!
Thnk you i love to music gambelan west java is beatuful..👌👍👍👍💖
Mojang priangan, ingt dlu wktu jdi marching band suka bawain lgu ini
Istimewa...
amazing..
traditional vs modern composer.. why not.. good luck brader
Saya sangat apresiasi
Orang Indonesia khususnya Jawa sudah banyak yang tidak suka dengan Gamelan, apa lagi generasi muda yang sudah mulai trend dengan lagu-lagu barat ditengah orang-orang barat yang belajar gamelan.
Tasimun Padma kata siapa,buktinya smpai sekrng kolekai lgu2ku dan hiburan di daerahku masih pkek budya smpk saat ini
Sekarang banyak kok sekolah-2 SD, SMP dan SMA yang punya gamelan, bahkan ada lomba antar sekolah dan bagus-bagus
Di ekskul banyak kok kaya gini😑
Tasimun Padma ,justru menurutku sekarang lebih maju,perkebangan karawita...di tempat saya sragen anak sd saja sudah fasih main gamelan dan di tiap sekolahan sd sudah punya gamelan lengkap
Kata siapa? Sini main ke jogja
good job! nice..
taiwan hadir. keren pa le mbak le trs semangat trima kasih.😍😍😍
it is very wonderfull, like 100%
Woooow...amazing....❤
bagus sekali kekompakanya.... ship lanjutkan, agar lebih fasih dalambermain gamelan..he,he.
terimaksihhh
konfigurasi multi sound ..
nan elok Indonesia tanah air pusaka tercinta ....
Bravo...
Very nice
LUAR BIASA....
BULE KEREN EUY !!
POV: ur teacher asked u to listen to this for work
wow i'm Indonesian and these is one of the best gamelan. played by white people I'm impress
that's very kind of you to say
kamu sebagai warga indonesia..gak patut membiarkan mereka mencuri budaya kita...maling
you guys did it well!!!
nissa nisrina the music was great
maling...mereka maling...mencuri budaya indonesia!!!dasar maling
very nice instrumental..
Its West Java Gamelan,
and song Mojang Priangan
amazing
ooh...flute with jazzzzzzz....okay..okay..!
Don't especially like this, though I applaud these guys for experimenting. Original gamelan music, or Western adaptations that stay closer to the original (e.g. by Colin McPhee) are, for me, much more satisfying to listen to (and nostalgic).
ohh great tenan......................................
Yoi bro