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SW-Motech EVO LED Fog Lights TESTED on CB1000R
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2024
- SW-Motech EVO LED Fog Lights, tested on the Honda CB1000R.
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Exactly what I need on my R NINET! Even the 2021 factory LED is “style over substance”-the beam pattern shoots way too far but I want to see the road immediate ahead too. Planning on installing Evo fog lights as soon as I fit crash bars on it, thanks for the demo!
Excellent review, lights are one of the important things we need as motorcyclists, you would of thought new bikes would have decent ones fitted, it’s nice to see where you are going....I’m gonna look for brighter bulbs for my old zx6 I like to increase how I Stand out when riding...I’ve fitted updated ones already, but will still look, cheers Andy....
I foolishly made that assumption when i bought it. How very wrong i was!! Good luck with the upgrades mate.
i cant believe how bright they are wow. Good way to been seen and stay safe out there Andy
Neither can I! Shameful speccing from Honda on this bike.
@@AndyManCam and it's only been 10 years! What the hell, Honda? 😅
I’m looking to put some lights On my XR they seem the right mix of light and distance nice one my son keep up the awesome job with the video’s 👍👍
Thanks Dale 👍 Happy to help out mate. Will do my very best!
Holly sht! I've sw motech bars but now i need those lights! It shine like crazy
Yep, they’re bright!!
Looks great. Anything to give you more light & to be seen is a win win 👍🏻
Totally agree!
@@AndyManCam There’s not a lot more you can do to be seen. Apart from riding looking like a Christmas tree all the time.
Haha! Very true!
I am scared to ride my CB1000R at night because I live in the country and it's pitch black were I live and one night I almost hit a deer because I couldn't see it until it was right infront of me. Thankfully it ran back into the woods and not infront of me but the headlight is dangerously under powered. I absolutely must get these lights. That is a game changer. Thank you so much for this demonstration my friend 👍🏼👍🏼. I hope your rides are plentiful, safe and the road clear.
I can completely understand that! They’re borderline dangerous at night!!
Impressive !!
Thanks for the video !
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
I have two sets in my Tiger, small ones low down around the engine casing which I have on permanently and a bigger pair (ooh err mrs) either side of the headlight which are as strong as your Motech ones . I use the lower ones to break up my look to the oncoming drivers and the Muppets in side roads. The bigger ones I use for those dark urban side roads at 5am in the mornings if you know what I mean, everyone's asleep and driving . Yours look the part and I guess on a par with the Denali lights I have. Nice easy fit.👍
I bet they can all see you coming! The more light, the better if you ask me!
Living in western Colorado, there is no way I could ride the CB1000R at night with the stock lights (deer, elk, sheep, etc.). Full disclosure: at 65 yo, I only ride at night or in rain if I'm "caught" in it. I really like the brightness of these lights without the blinding other drivers aspect of various "baja" lights. Another great review.
Thanks Jeff. I thankfully don’t have to ride too much at night. But when i do, the roads in Germany are very dark and the Markings practically disappear when it rains. At least this way I’ll have a better chance of not ending up in a ditch!
The lights on my gen 1 1290 are absolutely shocking at night, so this looks like a great idea. Thanks.
My pleasure! Interesting, as I've just switched to a 1090 adventure and compared to the CB1000R headlights, I think they're great! 😂
A lit switch to tell the rider the lights are on? for 300 Euros? Loved the video mate. Great presentation as usual. Cheers buddy.
Cheers Kent! It’s a legal requirement of fog lights over here.
Wow, that's a huge improvement 👍👍
A night and day difference, almost! 😉
Hope it helps, they are really impressive Andy!
Certainly seems like they will! Cheers David!
i still can not believe honda would sell a bike with a tea candle in a jam jar for a front light,shame on you honda...now andies bike has a collapsed star going nova on the front of it,epic!!
You and me both mate. I remember, in retrospect, thinking that the headlight was a bit dim as I went through a tunnel on the test ride. Just thought that perhaps it was that strange phenomenon with LEDs that they seem dim in the daytime, and then suddenly you can see everything at night. Sadly NOT!! 😂 Luckily it's so bright that people can see me coming from the future now!
It's amazing that it's even legal to sell a road going anything with headlights so under powered.
Amazing difference! 😎👍
I know right! I was stunned!
I’m going to buy them fog lights and crash bars for my CB1000R neo sports cafa thanks Andy
Saw your session on Bru time with teapot.. have to say, a Brock set of cans with a Dan Guhl flash of the ecu will sort you right out.
Cheers mate. Sadly a reflash is a legal and financial no-go here in germany!
You're the only one on UA-cam mentioning EU fog light E rating. I need the rating to pass MOT, as my old auxiliary lights that came with the second hand bike are not rated. Unfortunately, I can't afford the price of the lights... But thanks for the video anyway.
I think that's because the vast majority on youtube either don't know or don't care about the fog light ruling. For me in Germany, it's important to know the rules because breaking them can be expensive!
Nice video Andy, could you have put the pos and neg to the T/box rather than the battery?
Thanks Marcus. Absolutely yes. I just decided to go straight to the battery for the sake of (mostly) showing how a 'normal' installation would have gone.
I installed the same on my CB1000R 2021 Black Edition and it's great. Where did you find the tank side guards ?
Great your videos! Keep on going.
Did you have any luck finding tank pads?
@@mr.shenanigans597 I had them custom made by whoever upholstered my saddle. ;)
E.U. Regulations: Nuts. Impressive lights. I'm sold.
I totally agree! 👍🏻
Impressive. You should try a Honda Blackbird to sample a truly dismal headlight, must be a Honda thing. Nice to see you continuing the theme of only riding when it’s raining.
Ha! I was hoping that Honda quality would stretch to the headlight. Seems they don't care that much about it though!
Definitely a Honda thing, my 2017 Crossrunner has "state of the art high intensity LED lighting", yeah what a joke, the beam pattern makes riding on unlit roads dangerous.
So disappointing. You would think that these things could ONLY get better! But no, the bean counters are always there to suppress the enjoyment in favor of the budget! It should be illegal to put these lights on big road going machines. There’s a max brightness allowed for bikes, so why not a minimum safe brightness!!?
Nice one Andy, I have a 2015 Tiger 800 which has a handlebar fog light/heated grip switch. The fog light loom is currently just "hanging around" waiting for Triumph fog lights to be attached. Presumably I can just adapt the end plug on my switch and connect to the SW Motech loom, can you foresee any issue with that ? (NB. I also have the Healtech Thunderbox - which is a brilliant device - and bought it following your review of it) Thank you for all the great content you put out.
Cheers Mark! I can’t imagine there’d be any problem with that. I have a similar Connector on the CB1000R, but used the Thunderbox out of laziness!!
These look very good. I have read on some forums that the lenses can fog up or water can get in are you finding any of those problems?
Enlightening. I would be interested about how many drivers flash you when there on.
Badoom-tish! So far none, thankfully. Obviously i tend to turn them off unless really necessary.
My Versys 650 has the stock Kawasaki fogs which are brilliant. Always switched on but get used to people flashing you (oooh err!)
Haha! Better to be flashed than bashed! 😉
I hear you about the headlight. My 2021 Yamaha Tracer 9GT is an LED/Projector light & it is awful. My old Suzuki from the 90s had better illumination...so much for progress! I'm hoping to add Givis because SW Motech lights are very expensive over here in the US.
I don't understand how the manufacturers have managed to use 'improved' technology, yet still provide less than adequate lighting on modern machines. Car headlights have gone from strength to strength and are lightyears ahead of the sealed glass units of old! Why do we continue to put up with this nonsensical speccing of substandard components on bikes. It drives me mad!
Thank you for posting. Well, now that the amenities are done, I just have one thing to say. Your username is driving me nuts. There I said it. Each time I see it, it reminds me of Sammy Davis Jr's song title "The Candy Man Can". Which means, each time I see your username, the song pops into my head (not my favorite song by a long shot) and won't go away. Could you please change your u/n to something a bit more sensible like, for example, "Andy, The Man with a Camera Thingie"? Pleeeaaaaassssseeee I beeeeegggg Youuuuuu!!! I feel much better. We now return to our regularly scheduled programming. :)
Wow! Thats super catchy! I’ll get right on with the changover!
What a difference 👍
how big of an improvement are this for cornering? Or because they need to be set low they basically cut off when leaning for the corner ?
They look really good, I'd be tempted to wire them into the main beam switch so they're only on when you have a clear road ahead.
You would hardly ever get to use them in that case which kind of defeats the purpose of having them.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff really? Use my main beam all the time.... that’s why there’s a handlebar switch, so they can go on/off as needed
@@BiglumpADV I like to use my main beam as much as possible of course but having a pile of extra visibilty, as Andy just demonstrated, whilst on your low beam is a grea result. In many areas, not just cities, it is very hard to get to use your main beam for any decent amount of time.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff agreed, but dazzling other road users isn’t the answer either. As Andy said there is legality issues with those lights, so I wouldn’t be running them all the time either.
@@BiglumpADV Know what you are saying. If you get auxilliary lights they are legal (in places, I'm sure regs are different all over) as long as they don't dazzle other traffic. They do tend to have a wider spread than fogs though which does defeat the purpose a little.
I actually exclaimed out loud "F'ing hell" when you turned them on. They are awesome. Are they not 'auxiliary' lights? getting around the fog light legislation?
I know right! I was just as stunned! I’m not entirely sure about the auxiliary/foglight thing. I may have to press SW-Motech for more info. Though they are sold specifically as ‚fog lights‘. TBH the fine in Germany for incorrect use is 35€. Vs riding into a tree that you didn’t see!! 😂
@@AndyManCam Yes but who should fine you for having Fog Beams on at Nighttime. As long as you don't distract the other road users with that bright light. Nobody will blame you. I see a lot of BMWs an Audis an so on who drive with they're Foglights on. Looks cool I guess.
-Guy from Germany
I've retrofitted quad bi-xenon projectors in my car, so I've been absolutely spoiled with good headlights. The lights on my CB500F has to be even worse than yours. I'm planning on buying some Hella projectors, they are driving light legal with proper stepped cut off, can't wait to test them out
I had bi-xenon lights on my 1999 FZS600! I know that they were (and likely still would be) illegal, but it’s a amazing that lighting technology seems to be moving backwards as we get more advanced! So much of our product using enjoyment, scuppered by the ongoing search for that extra penny of profit!
@@AndyManCam Motorcycle LED headlights are complete garbage for some reasons, my mom's Lexus has LEDs and I swear they rival my quad bi-xenons. I mean Honda car's LED headlights are pretty good, Acura's are amazing, yet their motorcycle LEDs aren't even better than regular incandescent light bulbs. and you can't even retrofit anything into LED headlights!
It’s bull$#!¥ isnt it! They’ve always had a maximum brightness that headlights are allowed to emit. I think it’s about time that they had a minimum!
I can sympathise. My bike has has a halogen headlight and while it’s not terrible, it’s not great either. Tried several sets of led bulbs but didn’t find any that were any good. Fitted a set of spot lights and the difference was amazing. Trouble was they were cheap rubbish from China and failed very quickly. Now looking at a set of Denali spots that I can use the fog lenses on. Not worried about extra lighting distance as the high beam on the bike is reasonable, but something to flood the road in the same distance the low beam covers would be great, especially because the hours I work mean that at least 60-70% of my riding is in the dark. Problem is that the SW motech and Denali spots are so expensive!
They certainly are pricey. But as you've seen already, buy cheap, buy twice! I've gradually come round to the idea that the quality expensive stuff pays for itself in the long run.
@@AndyManCam yeah I learned that lesson. Thought I’d take a punt on the Chinese spots as they were silly cheap but obviously that was for a reason. As per your comment on the rear shock, maybe Santa will be nice this year 🤣
Fingers are firmly crossed! I’m not feeling very optimistic though! 😂
This is the way !!!
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Hi Andy, they don't half make the differents to the standard head light . Honda really need to do some thing about the head light they put on
It's massive isn't it! Honda have some explaining to do!
Some difference is an uderstatement. I had the same issue on my Caponord. Dipped lights were ok but main beam was horrible. Fitted spots on to it and the light from in now is awesome.. Pity we need to do this on new bikes...Surely this has to be a safety issue or do they think we dont ride in the dark???
I totally agree Mick. There is an upper limit to how much light the headlight can throw out, but why isn't there a lower limit, for safety's sake?!
I knew you said the headlight was bad but that was an understatement, it is nearly unusable and very dangerous, but those fog lights are amazing but a bit pricey, but for the safety well worth it in your case.
I didn't fully realise JUST how bad it was until I made this test! I've somehow managed to always be home before it gets REALLY dark. This just shows me how vital some kind of upgrade is on this bike. Bad show from Honda.
@@AndyManCam yes it's unbelievable they got away with delivering this headlight on such a high quality bike, it's not very Honda is it. You'll be ok now with your football stadium quality lighting 🤣🤣👍
Ha! Very true! I would quite like to hear what Honda officially have to say on the matter.
Andy I own a 2019 z1000sx. A great tourer and very comfortable with bags of power. However I have always loved the CB1000r. I’m seriously thinking about trading in my sx to get one. But my biggest worry is how the CB would be for touring especially on the motorway. So I’m watching all your touring vids to get an idea of how it is with wind, and luggage etc. I would love to hear your opinion on it. Would you have chosen a different bike knowing what you know now ?Is it worth all the adaptions you have made for touring etc? Cheers mate. 🏍
On the motorway, it's not so amazing. No great surprise there though as it has almost zero wind protection. But for me it's still perfect as I try not to spend tpp long on the motorway anyway! I've been really impressed with the Luggage from SW-Motech and the comfort overall (off the motorway) is no problem (now that I've changed the bars). I would 100% still buy the same bike again. I might try and haggle something off the price for that rubbish headlight though!!
Impressive, the lights are perfect for night rides
Absolutely. The difference is day and night! Pardon the pun.
Mate genuinely awesome how great they are. Same the switch is not even dimly back-lit for finding switch. What was causing heated grip cut out?
Dimly lit would be a real plus. Strange that they didn’t think of that. Then again, the normal buttons arent lit either. No idea with the grips, but they packed up completely after this. Currently waiting on replacements. I bet they’ll arrive just as it Starts to get warm again! 😂
@@AndyManCam Aye that would be typical.
The light when on does seem a bit over kill mind you.
I notice you had 3 cables, so still had to plug into battery... Bit of a pain in that respect given you have Thunderbox installed to avoid a tower of terminal connections.
I guess ultimately i could have just plugged the power cable into the thunderbox too. I just thought that going straight to the battery was a bit of belt and braces. 😬
@@AndyManCam Ah OK, wasn't sure if it was necessity to plug straight to battery too due to power demands. Can you tell I'm excited about seeing if Santa delivers a Thunderbox in a couple of weeks. 😂
A big blamage for that Honda-LED light 🤦🏼♂️
What a Lichtblick for you with the Laser-sw/motech 😎👍🏻
Agreed. Finally i can see where I’m going i can also see that Honda need a good talking to!
I like your stuff. Great vids and a great amount of humor 👍🏻
If you driving near Plauen/vogtland, it would be a pleasure for me to show you the best curvy streets here and Erzgebirge/Tschechien. Cheers and stay healthy 😎👍🏻
I had exactly same problem last year on honda vfr800 bright on front wheel then darkness the a line of light again I sorted it sold bike😂
Haha! That’ll do it! The shame is that otherwise i love the bike! I might consider one day swapping out the whole headlight unit. Gets expensive quickly though.
The more light the better mate 👍
Always! Seeing is always good! 😄
They looks brilliant(heh, luminescence joke) I might have to get a set!!
Badoomtish! They're a Lux-ury uprade, but they are exactly Watt I needed!
@@AndyManCam nice pun with the ‘watt’ in your comment lol
@@AndyManCam 😂😂😂😂😂
Hi Andy. Can't one buy normal auxillaries, and maybe just check the LED headlight wattage. Happy riding. EBC
That wattage of the stock headlight? TBH i will be mentioning it at the next service, because i find it hard to believe that the headlight in a modern bike can be SO bad. Not sure about the auxiliaries. I’m sure there are options out there, though i think that on motorbikes at least, the technicalities of the laws still somewhat restrict their use.
@@AndyManCam After a bit of research, it's the lumens produced by the bulb , maybe not enougn on low beam or could be the reflector design.
Or both. Tbh the whole unit isn’t very bright at all. Disgusting show from Honda.
WOW!! That's very impressive. Expensive, though, but probably worth it, as your headlight is abysmal.
Definitely. The difference is astonishing. Shame on you Honda!
They are impressive fog lights.
Still cannot believe how bad that CB1000's headlight is though, especially for a factory LED unit.
I'm glad my CBF1000F's headlight is brilliant, it's as good as my cars. Although that does mean on any ride out I'm put at the front to lead the way 🤣
Very much agree with you there John. It's a travesty that they've done this to me! Possible that something is wrong with it, but I doubt that very much. Maybe I should swing by the Honda dealer.
I need this for my xr1000
It’ll change your life!
That’s a fantastic mod shame on you Honda I have crash bars on my Honda adventure bikes, have had the bikes for 12 months and shamefully have never rode in the dark! I promise I give it a go and confirm if my led headlights are as bad as the litre bike you have very good video you are very funny. Malcolm and Diana from oz
Totally agree Malcolm. I have to admit that I too had my bike for a good 4 months before I really rode it in the dark!!
They sure do light up the road
Big time! Exactly what I needed!
The Tiger 800 has TWIN LED HEADLIGHTS as standard - and they are good 😂.
Colour me jealous!
hi are these the fog light model or the headlight model? Thank!
Hi Marco. The main clue is in the title dear fellow. Fog lights 👍🏻
I'd go for additional ordinary lighting rather than fog lights. SW Motech do seem to produce well made and well thought out products.
I think fog lights in anything other than fog are too bright for other road users, especially in rain which refracts the light in all directions. 🤷
With old fog lights, i would agree. But these have a very tight beam and with them also being mounted very low, i don’t imagine them being any more dazzling than the plonkers out there with illegal HID bulbs! Strange that SW only have these or Spots. I think they’re assuming that folks will just use these as additional low beams. They’re covered legally, so users can do what they want and accept the consequences.
@@AndyManCam Fair enough. 👍
@andymancam i see that you are in Germany. I have one question , in Germany you have to use winter tires how is the situation with using your motorcycle in the winter? As far as I know there are no motorcycle tires with a snowflake rating.
Oddly enough, there are no rules, as far as I know, regarding motorcycle tyres in Winter. I think the fact that generally Motorcycle tyres are softer and more grippy than car tyres certainly plays a part. I'm not sure if perhaps that would be different in the event of an accident.
Two-wheeled vehicles are exempt, but you're not allowed to drive around for fun, and if you must use the vehicle, there is a 50 kph speed limit. (See motorcycles.news/neuregelung-winterreifenpflicht-20172018-in-deutschland-gesetzesaenderungen/ )
@@AndyManCam thanks and keep the videos coming
@@padde thanks padde
No worries, will do! Plus I learned something new today!
Thats absolutely fantastic the difference of light. I can't believe Honda actually let those bikes out of the factory with those standard headlights, shameful.
It’s disgraceful mate. I wish there was some way to get an answer out of Honda, as to what the hell they were actually thinking!
So, It wasn't just a mater of adjustment of the headlight?
No. No matter where it was adjusted, it was still utterly crap!
My CB500X has LED low and high beam, and, yep, they're shite! Will be getting some of these now...
It's disgusting that Honda have done this to so many of their models! Darkness isn'T a new concept!! :D
Are these legal in the UK? Cheers
Yes they are. Fully E-marked. But they‘re officially foglights, so their useage comes with some caveats.
7:46 clearly you still don't see anything inside of the corner no matter how bright the lights are... I wish adaptive cornering lights were just as easily available.
That is true. I’ve seen a bunch of replacement LED main headlights from JW Speaker and Highsider that have cornering lights built in. Might be an option for an all in one upgrade in the future. Though it would bring with it mounting problems for the dash, as that is screwed directly to the headlight housing. 🤨. www.polo-motorrad.com/de-de/jwspeaker-led-scheinwerfereinsatz-5.75--8690a2-mit-kurvenlicht-60291200070.html?awc=11475_1607254851_ee2dcfcc625802ebaae10617b7bf6915
They're pretty bad on my CBR500R as well. Biggest problem for me is the high-beam is way too narrow, so you can't signal other vehicles unless they're directly ahead of you, and you can't see into corners at all.
It’s a real shame that Honda have just opted for style and low cost instead of actually putting a useable light on these allegedly premium bikes. I’m very disappointed with their attitude!
@@AndyManCam Yeah it's strange from them. I do like how visible the bike is to oncoming vehicles (except the high beam) with the amber lights always on, and that it's all LED. But not being able to see at all into corners is brutal and they're a bit dim. Figure I should look into additional lights... I've already put a 46L top box on a "sport" bike so aesthetics are already gone anyways!
Haha! Do it then! Stick yourself a nice big LED bar for offroading on the front! But yeah, it's disgusting that apparently headlights are seen as a non essential item. Doesn't matter whether or not people can see, as long as the can sync their phone with the bike! :O
Talk about Night and Day..Hughes diffrent.. worth every penny..expensiv yes but a crasch is more expensiv..and could be diffrens between life o death..
Absolutely. Hard to believe that the 750€ factory headlight is less than 25% as bright as a 300€ upgrade. Disgusting.
I tend to think of the “rule” situation like this, if you can get away with it in Germany then it will probably be ok in most other countries. As the British comedian Al Murray said “ You’ve got to have rules or where would you be? FRANCE!.... & if you had too many rules where you you be? GERMANY!”😁👍🏻
Totally true. Sadly it seems we can’t really get away with anything here! 🤣
Yep the stock headlight is proper.........Do they look good on the bike, hmmmmm dunno but I'd have them because they enable you to see at night. WINNER!!
Yeah, it's a bit of a catch 22. Not the most stylish for this machine, but then what price for being able to see!
I recently bought a XADV and the lights are pretty much horrible....
I do think that Honda does that on purpose, just to sell the acessory fog lights after;
I am in the market for a similar purchase;
I don’t understand why massive companies keep putting awful lights on these bikes! It’s not like the tech is now so expensive and complicated that it’s infeasible! There really is no excuse any more!
Missed a pun alert! Side mounted, top mounted, bottom mounted your slipping!
I must be getting old!
Ok 👍👌
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Massive difference. Shame all bikes don't come with similar lights. It's even worse this time of year, as the crap off the road covers the lights aswell.
I had rather expected that the brand new modern tech in the factory headlight would be that good. Sadly i expected too much. Thank goodness for SW-Motech!!
I have the 2nd gen Hayabusa and the head light is so bad. I can travel faster than the distance of the hight beam. Braking distance
Haha! That’s not good! But at least you can say that your bike is literally faster than the speed of (head)light!
Clearly night and day. Did the same with à Moto Guzzi and the increase in visibility could be a crash saver or worse.
Pity SW motech products are generally a bit.........well............GS style. But they are Brilliant! (See what i did there. Lights, brilliant.)
Ho ho ho! I guess it kind of happens when their biggest customers are the GS crowd!
Blimey you could light a stadium now, I put fog lights on my bike earlier this year ... ask me if I’ve been out in the dark since fitting them 🤦🏻♂️
I could light a stadium, from the other side of the country! Have you been out in the dark then? 😜
Pretty sure if I look carefully i could see you from Weston Super Mare 😂. Nope, I’m an absolute shower of shit!!!
Haha! Nothing wrong with not going out in the dark on purpose. But next time you get caught out... oh then you’ll feel smug!
I put them on as I was due to go to the Isle of Man this year and which involved some night riding obviously that was cancelled due to some selfish prick of a virus!!!! Hopefully 2021 they’ll get used, it’s odd though I’m alway back well before darkness on that bike yet on the other which has crap headlights (triumph) I always get caught out 😂😂
Sods bleedin law! It always rains when I’ve got no waterproofs too! 😉
Did you change your rear shock without telling anyone you sneaky bugger? :P
Ha! No. What makes you think so?
@@AndyManCam you mentioned that the original wasn't great. And I was doubting it was red from factory. I was wrong
Ah i see! Oddly they changed the shock from red to Black in the newer 2020 color scheme. No idea why, because red looks much better. But no, sadly it’s the same rubbish stock shock. Maybe I’ll Manage to change it next year.
I can't believe Honda let the bike go to market with shit like that on it. It's the kind of thing that knackers a brand's reputation....
Those SW Motech lights on the other hand are bloody brilliant!
Sadly it won’t damage their reputation. It really ought to, but oddly enough none of the large magazine or media reviews ever mention this kind of MASSIVE flaw.
@@AndyManCam knowing the Germans, you would probably be fined for the state of the light emitted by the headlight in the dark! Does that make sense?!
It makes total sense and is just messed up enough to actually happen!! 😆
my cbr650r is the same, beyond shocking!!!!
How can it be possible?! I’m disgusted by Honda‘s poor effort!
@@AndyManCam mate its a proper let down. considering the ''honda build quality'' lol i never thought such a thing would be so crap. hmmm wonder how the faired version would look with the accessory lights haha.........
😯🤓😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦 wow what a difference. They always be on 😎
I totally agree! My eyes have been opened! And in the daytime, I’m going to be far more visible!!
I take it ,you gone back to Honda
Gone back to? I never left! Mind you, I’ve only had the bike since August!
@@AndyManCam i ment to say, did you go back to Honda and sy fuck me ive a candle brighter than your head lights take a look ✨ 😉
Ah i see!! I’ll definitely be mentioning it at the next service. It’s pathetic that it’s so bad!
Buying any product from SW-Motech is money well spent.
I totally agree. I really like using their stuff.
@@AndyManCamSince I imagine you follow SWMotech closely, I think this is a fair question: are you aware if they ever have a sale -- or is ever an option to get a discount or promo code?
Champagne tastes on a beer budget here…
Extreamly expensive for 1000 lumen. when you could get 3 times more light for the same price.
You say SW motech aren’t paying you for the review but they are . They are paying you 292.44 euro to review the fog lights . I’m sure I would like everything they made if I was given it for free. You can’t give an un-biased review on a product unless you have paid for it yourself. The few sw motech bits of kit I own are very good, but they were pre owned because brand new they are ridiculously expensive.
Its quite difficult to review a product without having it, and if I had to pay full price for everything on the channel there simply wouldn’t be any reviews! Don‘t worry, i have to pay 16% VAT and 20% income tax out of my own pocket and then dedicate at least 3 days to making the video. No idea what I’m going to do with the equivalent 60€ a day that SW-Motech are ‚paying‘ me (that i can’t spend). Drugs or hookers is always such a tough choice... Maybe I’ll just stick to making honest reviews of the stuff.
@@AndyManCam I think your missing the point . You have basically said if they didn’t give it to you couldnt afford it ? It’s a great bit of kit but it is too expensive for you to purchase. No denying the motech stuff is well built gear but is it worth the crazy high price tag ? No chance . You can’t review stuff unless you have it , true . You start giving bad reviews on stuff you receive for free , saying they are over priced for example, these companies stop giving you free stuff , no reviews and less content for your channel. This is why you can’t give an honest review. Nearly all the motovloggers are guilty of it . MCN are the same , they rarely slate a bike because they know if they do they won’t get invited to the canaries for a jolly to review the next one .
If i don’t like a product, i say so. The difference is that i don’t tend to accept products that i don’t like. They just get sent back. I don’t appreciate the questioning of my integrity. I don’t care if i upset any brands or manufacturers. If the products are good, they get a place. I care that viewers to my channel can trust it.
The lights are fantastic! ...When he starts talking about rules and regulations in EU regarding the use of fog lights, I am so glad to have emigrated out of EU. They really don't have any other problems over there, but to decide if they can take some ransom over a set of lights mounted on a motorcycle. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. People: WAKE UP!
Tis true sadly. I don’t understand how there are so many rules about foglights, but not a basic MINIMUM of brightness for the OEM headlights! I’ve had too many bikes with terrible lights. Years ago, technology was the limiting factor, now they’re just skimping.
@@AndyManCam do you think it's possible to mount these in a way that if you do go down they won't get crushed? I have the same bike, going to do about 20% on gravel roads I have the crash bars, I just don't want to sacrifice the fog lights unnecessarily...
I got stopped for having my fog lights on.
Sorry to hear it MB. I guess it has to happen to someone! I imagine the chances would be relatively slim with these as the beam is very tight. I'm always amazed though by the amount of people bombing about with horrible dazzly cheap chinese LED's that never seem to get stopped!
Testing foglamps without fog? 🤣
The most important ingredient was the darkness. For the rest, you can use your imagination!
Vstrom dl 1000 heap of shite stock lights. Have eaxct ones you have and Im getting flashed left right and center. At least they see me now.😂
Is it impossible for you to adjust them so they don't blind anyone oncoming?
M8 that's impressive! Your headlight is bloody awful🤦♂️
Awful would be an upgrade from what my headlight is!!
Headlight is worse than an FZS 600 headlight
And thats really saying something! 😂
Ill never be rich!
None of us will, as long as these toys keep coming out!
@@AndyManCam ordered and sung your praises to sw motech as an advertiser... its got to do a bit of good right?
Many thanks Glyn! Absolutely must help! Enjoy the new dazzlers mate!
what a horrible switch design, why would you throw light back at the rider?
No idea! It is pretty bright! But then I’ve always found the main beam indicator too bright for riding in the dark too.
Nothing a bit of paint or plastidip can't fix! Well, except that on my bikes there probably isn't anywhere to mount them :/
Edit: actually thinking hat on - I could probably find a way to mount them in place of the indicators and then get mirrors with intergrated indicators instead. Do they even come with a mount that allows for that?
There are a bunch of different mount brackets for various bikes. I’m sure a bit of research would yield something that would do the job.
@@AndyManCam I mean I'm not too sure they would do one for a bike so rare there isn't even a Haynes manual for it. Triumph Speed Four such a pain to find accessories for it.
I mean find a bracket for a different bike, that more or less has the screw holes in the right place.
Who can afford it? They are bloody expensive
They are expensive, but this is one of those cases where the price reflects the quality. Sure you could get some cheap Chinese LED lights, but over the years of buying and using gear on bikes in all weather I’ve Learned that if you buy cheap, you inevitably end up buying twice. But it all comes down to how much being able to see abs being able to rely on the product is worth to you. If it doesn’t add up, don’t buy!
The Honda lights are certainly rubbish, shame you have spend to correct there problem!
I totally agree Robert. A working headlight really should be a minimum!