honestly i think it'd be really funny if lictors in the game had a very early (combat wise) execute prompt... but its just a trap from the sneaky lil bug and if you go for it you take some damage, that'd 1. funny 2. lore friendly as lictors are the smart sneaky bugs
@@JackDuripper If this was Commoragh theyd have made a big fancy arena and released a thousand slaves telling them to survive against the battle between the bug and psycho coffin.
To be entombed in a Dreadnought is an honor, to be entombed in a Helbrute is a punishment. Usually the way the T sons make theirs is by tricking other sorcerers into using a spell that will make them vulnerable to being turned into a Helbrute without realizing it.
No, a Helbrute is 1000x worse than a Dreadnought, because while Space Marines view the Dreadnought as an honor, Chaos marines view the Helbrute as a prison.
My favourite thing about the Helbrute in this game is that it shows that boxnoughts aren't the slow, unwieldly robots some people view them as. They're described in the lore as agile despite their awkward proportions, and the game captures that perfectly with how quickly they can swing their melee weapons around and charge at you.
@@TheStargateNerd and this is only reasonable - they are controlled by a person who's neural system merged with controls of the vehicle so this is like controlling their own body. And if they wouldn't be agile then they would be just a waste of metal, because tanks are just better mechs, with lower profile and more robust method of movement, so mechs always must have some advantage to be viable alongside conventional tanks and IFVs being directly controlled through nerve-machine connections is reasonable variant of such advantage because human brain is already used to control 2 arms and 2 legs so its just so easier to adapt than to vehicle of non-humanoid shape
0:43 the way the Lictor jumps out of the way of the Helbrute's hammer and then starts circling as it charges the hammer, that feels like something out of The Predator
According to the lore of Helbrutes, especially the ones of Thousand Sons - they use the kidnapped or tricked members of other legions and war bands since most of 1k sons are made of sand. I mention this because the screaming of this helbrute in the very beginning sounds like “For GuillimAAAAAn!” This guy was an Ultramarine who was captured by Thousand Sons and put into a Helbrute, his chapter’s colors were taken away from him, his flesh mutilated, he was condemned to incredible pain, torture & becoming mad, in the end, being unleashed against his own brothers. The only good thing is that at the very least, his own brothers were able to grant him the Emperor’s Mercy. Rest in peace brother, knowing that the Emperor forgives you and that your tormentors have been slain!
@@tm5123 earliest hellbrutes were the traitor dreads that became extremely warp mutated. Their current lore states them as being made from hellforges, unlike the usual ‘slap that barely alive corpse into a coffin and lock him up until slaughter time’ shenanigans with csm.
@@daliberista4344 First sentence in the 10th edition chaos space marine codex entry for Helbrute reads as follows "Helbrutes are walking engines of destruction and psychosis, their OCCUPANTS kept alive in a state of agony and insanity." I don't care about your special case helbrutes. The average helbrute is the one with sarcofagus with a maimed person, usually a chaos space marine. Whatever you're describing is not the codex entry. End of story.
That would be interesting, for me I would love to know do the tanks realy make damage? Like the baneblade? Cause most of the time they just shoot into the background without any impact where we the players are, and of course the old question how many guardsman do you need to bring down which enemy
@@LeVeLs404 A Baneblade should flatten anything in the game short of the Bio-Titan and maybe that souped up Lord of Change. I doubt it actually has stats though, it's probably just an animation without anything in it to interact with enemies.
I know this is probably a lictor alpha, but I would still expect the hellbrute to pancake it with a few good swipes, the lictor got brought to it's last health bar first, thats when It really began dodging everything like crazy.
Kinda freaky that the space marine portion of the helbrute is still intact. It feels like a reverse fish tongue parasite situation where instead of the parasite replacing the fish's tongue, a parasite grew around the astartes and used it as the new tongue.
Those dodges were slick, with it skirting around the hammer then rushing back in. Cloaking away from the slam a few times just before it hit. The Lictor AI, I swear, is really smart on higher difficulties. I once was fighting one in Operations, on Substantial, and missed a parry. Lost most of my health. My Bulwark wanders over and puts the banner down so we can dust the Lictor together and gain full health from the banner's rally. Only, for the next 20 seconds or so before the banner faded, the Lictor cloaked, hid, and waited. It outright stopped attacking while we had the banner as an advantage and only reappeared after. I don't know if it was just a very well timed pause in its attack that it was always going to do, or if it was caused by a special being used. But it was both cool and aggravating.
the game is very well done when you open the sarcophagus after being defeated you can see the operator's body hanging almost falling from the hellbrute 3:34
Tbh movements and mechanics were made to accommodate a game in reality I think its even match. Helbrutes are described as raving mad, chained on the ceiling of a ship until they are unleashed upon the enemy. Secondly he didnt use his plasma cannon at all, couple of hits would have slowed the lictor down exponentially.
as a huge 40k fan this game has just been a wet dream start to finish lmao. i genuinely dont think your a true fan if you dislike this game. the art design, music, sound design just a visual feast. i have been waiting for so long to see these characters and creatures animated and voiced. even the custode is badass imo. i hated the idea at first but they sid a great job.
40k fans are the dumbest fans to ever exist in the history of mankind. If emperor was actually real and alive, he would just banish all of you. Art, Music, etc is good but there has to be some balance, meaningful gameplay. Spamming grenade launcher and parry and dodges is not power fantasy. It's called being stupid.
I like to put kitbash spikey dreadnoughts and call them "helbrutes" for datasheet and weapons purposes but lore wise they're just dreadnoughts who joined chaos or a chaos marine who salvaged a dreadnought.
It's a numbers game in simulations, that's all. In reality that hammer would come down on that Lictor and absolutely destroy it, possibly in one single blow.
wouldn't a dreadnought (hellbrute here) have all kinds of lenses, vision modes, trackers to just basically see the lictor all the time? I think a dreads cogitator would be able to follow the footsteps on the ground or hear on some audio level where the lictor is? Thoughts?
The Lictor used was the boss lictor from the story mode. Normal Lictors are very weak.
Now i understand why he won because damn the normal one would be surprising if he had so much health 😅
would also be really broken to have the lictor bouncing off of walls.
honestly i think it'd be really funny if lictors in the game had a very early (combat wise) execute prompt... but its just a trap from the sneaky lil bug and if you go for it you take some damage, that'd 1. funny 2. lore friendly as lictors are the smart sneaky bugs
I was about to say, this Lictor should've died after the first two hits.
@@matsumototatsuo I was wondering why it has so much health. That early boss fight was tough tough.
Looks like Trazyn is bored again.
Most boring Commoragh arena match
@@JackDuripper If this was Commoragh theyd have made a big fancy arena and released a thousand slaves telling them to survive against the battle between the bug and psycho coffin.
Yyyeep
I like to imagine a Dreadnought seeing a Helbrute and thinking “Hmm. Maybe I don’t have it so bad after all.”
A dreadnaught seeing a Hellbrute would be like
*_"FINALLY, A WORTHY OPPONENT!"_*
@@northernalpine4350 more like: A MOCKERY OF MY HOLY VESSEL WALKS THE BATTLEFIELD!
To be entombed in a Dreadnought is an honor, to be entombed in a Helbrute is a punishment. Usually the way the T sons make theirs is by tricking other sorcerers into using a spell that will make them vulnerable to being turned into a Helbrute without realizing it.
No, a Helbrute is 1000x worse than a Dreadnought, because while Space Marines view the Dreadnought as an honor, Chaos marines view the Helbrute as a prison.
You see a Redemptord absolutely mutilate a Hellbrute in the campaign and it's glorious. You also see a helldrake get violated by a statue lol
Considering all the power-hits from the hellbrute, boss or not, that lictor should've been dead twice over.
@@Dreez76 during a tyranid invasion, doesnt matter if theres millions of other ones to claim its place
@@orang7789Ok? This was a one on one
The Helbrute's player did not make the appropriate sacrifices to the Dice Gods, and the Prime Lictor's player is passing all of his ward saves, lol
@@hallowedbeyourdays The lictor player is cheating then and using Fantasy battle rules 😅
@@orang7789 lictors hunt solo.
My favourite thing about the Helbrute in this game is that it shows that boxnoughts aren't the slow, unwieldly robots some people view them as. They're described in the lore as agile despite their awkward proportions, and the game captures that perfectly with how quickly they can swing their melee weapons around and charge at you.
@@TheStargateNerd and this is only reasonable - they are controlled by a person who's neural system merged with controls of the vehicle so this is like controlling their own body. And if they wouldn't be agile then they would be just a waste of metal, because tanks are just better mechs, with lower profile and more robust method of movement, so mechs always must have some advantage to be viable alongside conventional tanks and IFVs
being directly controlled through nerve-machine connections is reasonable variant of such advantage because human brain is already used to control 2 arms and 2 legs so its just so easier to adapt than to vehicle of non-humanoid shape
0:43 the way the Lictor jumps out of the way of the Helbrute's hammer and then starts circling as it charges the hammer, that feels like something out of The Predator
Kinda feel bad for helbrutes. Once proud Astartes, now mutilated and tortured into an animalistic state by their own dreadnought. The price of heresy
The price of being a sucker, helbrutes are tricked into becoming
For thousands sons.
For other Warbands it's a punishment for failure.
the Thousand Son who put "free candy" on a dreadnought chassis 💀
@@ALunny For some Chaos groups, its a Dreadnought leading them. Not all have it as a punishment.
@@ZHBraden13 hellbrutes aint dreadnought
According to the lore of Helbrutes, especially the ones of Thousand Sons - they use the kidnapped or tricked members of other legions and war bands since most of 1k sons are made of sand.
I mention this because the screaming of this helbrute in the very beginning sounds like “For GuillimAAAAAn!”
This guy was an Ultramarine who was captured by Thousand Sons and put into a Helbrute, his chapter’s colors were taken away from him, his flesh mutilated, he was condemned to incredible pain, torture & becoming mad, in the end, being unleashed against his own brothers.
The only good thing is that at the very least, his own brothers were able to grant him the Emperor’s Mercy.
Rest in peace brother, knowing that the Emperor forgives you and that your tormentors have been slain!
I had that thought when I was fighting one the other day, was wondering why he didnt turn to dust. Glad to see it explained.
@@cardyceps7728 That is dark. Really dark.
40K has amazing lore but that is especially grim.
Love it.
Wow, incredible spot! Thanks for sharing ❤
They primarily use other chaos astartes they trick
I think at the start its yelling “Sons of Guilliman” addressing the ultramarines
The lictor was very fortunate to have found that God Mode cheat code pickup right before this battle.
This feels like the Total War Warhammer vids of the units fighting I love it, so glad to see the tabletop finally come to life
Is the lictor not taking damage from some of the attacks? I feel like something isn't working propperly, ain't no way the lictor can tank all that.
@@Neves7561 he probably dodged it
It's a boss version of lictor.
Seems to be the boss lictor from the campaign
@@Neves7561 it says in the top right this is the boss lichtor, otherwise yeah a normal lichtor you run into would be long dead
@@98765zach lickthor*
When you're wounding on 2s but all you get are 1s.
this goes hard
The Hellbrute Hammer has a strength of x2 -> 12 for the Hellbrute. Lictor has got a toughness of 5, so you are very much correct sir
@@fabianrichter5408 In older editions the instant death rule would have killed the Lictor pretty quickly
Pokemon looks different today.
It is funny because a lictor vs a helbrute on the tabletop is basically the complete opposite
Not gonna lie I am surprised that the lictor won 🤣. But I am curious who wins who is going to be the best tank carnifex or the chaos dreadnought
Yeas please that is very fair and comprehensive fight.
Well it is a boss lictor from story mode the normal lictors would have died within a min.
So you usually _do_ lie?
I really like that the Lictor is dodging the attacks. Thats is a tyranid witth tactic.
Honestly, helbrutes are some of the coolest, yet scary things i would wver imagine running into in the 40k universe
3:35 you can see the bodily remains of an astartes. That is *not* a hellforged hellbrute which are basically daemon engines.
Is it claimed somewhere that it's a hellforged helbrute? Normal helbrute has a CSM inside it.
@@tm5123 earliest hellbrutes were the traitor dreads that became extremely warp mutated. Their current lore states them as being made from hellforges, unlike the usual ‘slap that barely alive corpse into a coffin and lock him up until slaughter time’ shenanigans with csm.
@@daliberista4344 First sentence in the 10th edition chaos space marine codex entry for Helbrute reads as follows "Helbrutes are walking engines of destruction and psychosis, their OCCUPANTS kept alive in a state of agony and insanity."
I don't care about your special case helbrutes. The average helbrute is the one with sarcofagus with a maimed person, usually a chaos space marine. Whatever you're describing is not the codex entry. End of story.
@@tm5123 We need to remember that the Codex was written 10 Milenia ago... so some information might have changed a little bit.
@@ReginDeRivia uuh, the csm codex is a rules book with background lore, not the codex astares written by guilliman…
Strength and power vs speed and agility
invisibility is also a big factor when he can drop aggro from helbrute and strike him unexpectedly.
To be fair, Lictors are pretty bloody strong in their own right.
@@matsumototatsuo Also helps that he has like 5x the health of a normal lictor, amiright? 🤪
@@thenethuns5271 guessing they used the boss lichtor from campaign
The lictor animation is soo slick.
the helbrute for sure looked like it won the hit possession game yet it surprised me at the end
This is so entertaining, can you also use the astra militarum? Would be cool to see if a group of cadians can take down a mini boss
That would be interesting, for me I would love to know do the tanks realy make damage? Like the baneblade? Cause most of the time they just shoot into the background without any impact where we the players are, and of course the old question how many guardsman do you need to bring down which enemy
@@LeVeLs404 A Baneblade should flatten anything in the game short of the Bio-Titan and maybe that souped up Lord of Change. I doubt it actually has stats though, it's probably just an animation without anything in it to interact with enemies.
At 2:37 The Boss Lictor pulls off some smooth doges there!
I expected lictor to avoid most of these attacks but he face tanked like 70% 😅
I really love that meaty overhead slam by the brute. They did a smashing job animating it!
I know this is probably a lictor alpha, but I would still expect the hellbrute to pancake it with a few good swipes, the lictor got brought to it's last health bar first, thats when It really began dodging everything like crazy.
I feel like one solid hit from the Helbrute’s hammer should’ve turned the Lictor into a crab cake
@@MichaelZesty If it werent the story mode boss Lichtor it would be atomized
0:03 sounded like bro said “F**K, DAMNITTTTTTTTT!” which is very understandable, dudes going through agony😂
Kinda freaky that the space marine portion of the helbrute is still intact. It feels like a reverse fish tongue parasite situation where instead of the parasite replacing the fish's tongue, a parasite grew around the astartes and used it as the new tongue.
I really love the detail of the hellbrute movements, Reflecting that he is in a constant pain and fury at the chaos gods service.
That close up on Lictor at 3:40 makes it look like it's ready to go after the Protoss and the Zerg
Those dodges were slick, with it skirting around the hammer then rushing back in. Cloaking away from the slam a few times just before it hit.
The Lictor AI, I swear, is really smart on higher difficulties. I once was fighting one in Operations, on Substantial, and missed a parry. Lost most of my health. My Bulwark wanders over and puts the banner down so we can dust the Lictor together and gain full health from the banner's rally. Only, for the next 20 seconds or so before the banner faded, the Lictor cloaked, hid, and waited. It outright stopped attacking while we had the banner as an advantage and only reappeared after. I don't know if it was just a very well timed pause in its attack that it was always going to do, or if it was caused by a special being used. But it was both cool and aggravating.
wow lictor looks very proud at the end with the close-up
im impressed they made bosses able to interact like that when you probably wont ever see it in game, it even dodging attacks etc
Literal el "Si bro pásate al caos, mírame sirvo al dios verdadero y soy libre" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
i like how the lictor folds his scythes like a chicken
ваууу это эпичный бой. Ликтор во время и классно уворачивается
That poor Thousand Sons player rolled like shit.
That Lictor is surely built differently
It feels like the lictor and hellbrutes attacks are perfectly lined up
I'm so happy they made the Tyranids look so gnarly.
It’s amazing how smooth animation is, it doesn’t feel jarring or Jenkee at all
Lictor got turn one, and the hell brute kept rolling 1s to wound. Brutal
that lictor really pulled off some insane dodges...
the game is very well done when you open the sarcophagus after being defeated you can see the operator's body hanging almost falling from the hellbrute 3:34
That Lictor is tougher than Nurgle himself....
so when ever i take my lictors for a spin ... then i WILL remember this
Put tanks against each other
Carnifex VS Helbrute 1v1
Hellbrute win most of time
@@NekrindeNekrinius maybe.... but it's still would be nice to see
wow the way they portrayed lictor in the game i must say was a very well done job, tbh i was really surprised he also won the fight.
Man, Space Marines Mob Battle
Could you do the Ultramarine Dreadnought vs. Magnus? That's what he would have wanted.
A smash like that would annihilate that bug at the first or most with the second hit
I seem to remember instant death being a thing.
"Tanky lil buggar ain't he?"
"Lictor deez nutz!"
-Lictor
can you do a boss Lictor vs a normal Lictor to see the difference
me vs my roommate for the oreos
I honestly didn't expect the lictor to win lol
That bug really ate the hits. Odd considering the size difference and the fact that the giant cyborg is possessed by a god
Australlia's least dangerous creature v. s. Boston Dynamics' Sanest Bot
I really wish we could have seen the Boss Lictor's health bar in order to know how close the Helbrute got.
Let’s be honest, that first hammer smash would have turned that lictor into goo
Ain’t no way that Lictor survives this. That’s absurd.
one hit from a Chaos Dreadnought would obliterate a Lictor.
Imagine landing a tone of hit roles with a thunder hammer and not a single 1 does a wound
I did not expect that victory.
How to open and play around in this editor?
Wish we had both health bars to see how close or not it was
Sneaky Kathulu
Im cheering on for this hellbrute. It deserves our support after it was violated by that one Redemptor Dreadnought 🤣
if it wasn't a boss Lictor, every hammer hit would be lethal to him😂
I want to see a "How many guardsmen does it take to kill x" series
Man with obesity caused by Mcdonalds vs Silent kid in the class with chronic meth addiction
Tbh movements and mechanics were made to accommodate a game in reality I think its even match. Helbrutes are described as raving mad, chained on the ceiling of a ship until they are unleashed upon the enemy. Secondly he didnt use his plasma cannon at all, couple of hits would have slowed the lictor down exponentially.
We should see both hp bars
Game is hard coded to not allow 2 bosses to spawn and show their health.
I'm kind of amazed that the Lictor won.
This is so cool, can you spawn Cadians? How many of those to take down a Hellbrute?
as a huge 40k fan this game has just been a wet dream start to finish lmao. i genuinely dont think your a true fan if you dislike this game. the art design, music, sound design just a visual feast. i have been waiting for so long to see these characters and creatures animated and voiced. even the custode is badass imo. i hated the idea at first but they sid a great job.
40k fans are the dumbest fans to ever exist in the history of mankind. If emperor was actually real and alive, he would just banish all of you. Art, Music, etc is good but there has to be some balance, meaningful gameplay. Spamming grenade launcher and parry and dodges is not power fantasy. It's called being stupid.
I love the Thousand Sons Helbrute design.
I guess Lictors are just that cracked
I just gotta say, that Hellbrute probably had some shitty dice rolls.
i feel like the different units would fight each other diff then they would in the game setup a space marine, but still very cool nonetheless
I like to put kitbash spikey dreadnoughts and call them "helbrutes" for datasheet and weapons purposes but lore wise they're just dreadnoughts who joined chaos or a chaos marine who salvaged a dreadnought.
The fact the lictor cant do the grab attacks it uses on the player really messes it up in a fight like this
Proof that the Tyrannids are way more terrifying than Games Workshop let's us see.
I really hope you're able to use the Imp Guard to fight some of these bosses, since it would be so cool to see how many guard it takes to kill them!
WH40K Dawn of War 3 should have looked like this
It's a numbers game in simulations, that's all. In reality that hammer would come down on that Lictor and absolutely destroy it, possibly in one single blow.
A little surprised the Lichtor won when the Hellbrute was immune to its pin attack.
wouldn't a dreadnought (hellbrute here) have all kinds of lenses, vision modes, trackers to just basically see the lictor all the time? I think a dreads cogitator would be able to follow the footsteps on the ground or hear on some audio level where the lictor is? Thoughts?
Interesting Video but the Range Weapon would need more use.
You could to Show the HP in the END and close the Unit Window.
Damn. They did an amazing job on that game.
The boss Lictor was way easier to fight than the boss Hellbrute in the campaign...
I love that lictor
*Lictor Alpha* vs Hellbrute
Fixed that for you
I kept saying “just dodge” and they actually listened to me lol 2:48
55 points well spent.
Somehow this fight feels dynamic. Realistic even. Not as scripted as in other games.
was it just me or did that lictor learn the helbrutes attack patterns near the end?
This is the reason why space marime change their dreadnought to redemptor from castraferrum 😂
Hate when I can't make a wound roll to save my life