Sweet teardown! Thanks for showing us the inside! Very clean! I'm glad they have their parallel battery connection just hooked into the main bus bar. Hard to believe a lot of these other inverters set up for split phase don't have a way to synchronize the batteries together.
This was a very good walk through and it’s not put together with glue and totally reparable this is the best thing I’ve seen. As a total plugin user friendly. Thumbs up 👍
I have to say I’m more impressed with this unit after seeing the insides. Heavy, yes, expensive, definitely yes, but if you’ve ever been stuck in your home over 3 weeks during summer in TX without any air conditioning or power after a hurricane, you’d call this a bargain! Throw some PV panels out in the yard, plug in the fridge and a small window unit and it could honestly be a lifesaver. ⚡️☀️👍🤠
Good for the technology restricted folks.. as a DIY ER I get bored with the battery boxes but occasionally watch the videos to be able to help direct the people that won't diy for whatever reason.
I was interested in getting the Hysolis Apollo 5K Generator, however, I want to wait to see a good review by you or other independent content providers on the Echo Flow Delta Pro Ultra. I would like to better understand how these two Solar Generators stack up against each other and which one you think is Better for Home use as a backup system.
I really like the usage of prismatic cells and the overall design. BUT, if we were to compare this large and expensive Solar Station with a 5-10kWh DIY battery or 1-2 server rack batteries on some cart with wheels and an All-In-One inverter attached to them, with about the same dimensions we get either the same power and functionality for very significantly less money, or much more power and much more battery capacity for similar money with exactly the same possibility to increase battery capacity and power in parallel by adding another battery or another All-In-One inverter, plus full monitoring with history in Solar Assistant, so from that perspective and performance/price considerations this unit ultimately doesn't make sense, although it looks very nice, but I'm sorry to say, BUT... :(
Their previous 3k model used a toridial low frequency inverter but now I see they went with a "cheaper" high frequency inverter. Am I correct in my understanding?
Have you looked into the UNV Uniview Power Stations? Would love to see a Teardown video about them. (I am looking to start to sell them in my store) But Kinda Thinking mixed reviews about them , as kinda new,, The older models did not seem to be very good.,
i am not tech savy and I just starting my journey into EMP protecting my house,office, shop, barn etc. I have surge protection at my main panel as well as my sub panels in all the buildings. Also, I am grid tying some solar panels and not one, but two, back up generators (1 NG and 1 diesel) for redundancy and because I don't trust that diesel will be available in the future. I raise Bison and have walk in/ chest freezers that need to keep running. I like these Hysolis Apollo's as a backup for the house and office, but my question is, will an in line surge protector of some sort protect them from an EMP or lightning strike? They do seem fragile.
It is feasible to protect against most lightning related problems and any electrician can advise - you will use lightening conductors and surge diverters (Over Voltage Arresters). EMP is harder to manage - you will need to be much clearer about which of all the risks you are trying to protect against. Bing off grid and having a big gap between you and any conductors like pipes. electrical grid wiring, hard wired phone lines will mitigate a lot of the risk. A powerful EMP that is generated near you us very difficult to mitigate and expensive.
@@Anchor2012 thank you for your advice. you have addressed a few areas in which my electrician hadn't thought of including reducing proximity to other conductive surfaces ie: water pipes etc. I have accepted that this will be/ is an expensive endeavour, but building in redundancy gives me a fighting chance at least. I am now considering a seperate building all together. I am looking into an old retired grain bin (galvanized corrugated metal), that would ground directly. Everything inside will be "floating" on non conductive material in an attempt to simulate a Faraday cage.
thank you as always for your content - one question pls - you mentioned the balance leads had heat shrink on them - is that some type of heat shrink paste? sorry if it's obvious i'm a noob - i like the idea of having a paste that will solidify into a rubbery cover though - is there one you like to use that's like that? amazon link maybe? thank you again!
Heat shrink is rubber tube that you put the wire through then heat it with a heat gun (big hair dryer) and it shrinks snuggly around the wire. Just search for "heat shrink" on Amazon to see some examples.
thanks for that - i'm getting more experienced now and can better word my questions - i've seen a white solid paste like substance that's used to secure wires to batteries - it honestly looks like some kind of caulk - is there a proper name for the material that manufacturers use to secure balance wires to the external body of the battery so they don't move around?@@LithiumSolar
Excellent! I got mine up and running this week. Let me know if you figure a way to add another cheaper battery than the expansion battery they offer..... The inverter and panels are priced about right but those batteries... damn! if you need 4 or 5 of those $$$$$ A 20K battery bank should not cost that much. It reminds me of a printer... sell the printer cheap then charge out the arse for ink lol.
@@russingersoll5761I could do these basic repairs when I was 12. Even my grandma knows how to solder. If you're an American and you can't figure things out, I don't consider you American. It's called using common sense and figuring stuff out. What we need these days is more self-reliance. I'm tired of all this dependency on others
i'm a TOTAL noob and i'm telling you this setup is EXTREMELY user maintainable and modular unlike others - look at others - this one is built well with end user maintenance in mind - you can tell from this vid
Not one of those RJ45 (Ethernet) cables are crimped correctly. The data may work, but there is zero strain relief on those delicate conductors. Looks very amateur in that regard.
If you're referring to the two short gray cables - they're shielded so the insulation+shield doesn't fit under the modular plug. Sure, they could have used a plug designed for shielded cable; however, I'm fine with how they are vs paying more for something I don't deem necessary. They are internal to the unit - you should never touch or even see them, not subject to damage.
I was disappointed to see that this unit uses a low cost, low surge, high frequency, transformerless inverter. I was hoping to see a more reliable, higher surge, low frequency, transformer based inverter.
Exactly, good point, for that high price it would be possible to buy a full Victron solar system with a low frequency inverter and make it portable wouldn't be much bigger either. The first version of the Apollo 5K didn't work well, or only partially and most importantly it was dangerous, now they have come up with a fix that works with several reviews showing that they fixed the failure from the first version - kind of a WAW effect, but when thinking about the Apollo 5K and especially when getting down to paying for the this Power Station, you kind of don't know why it's so expensive...
@@LithiumSolarthe cable outer layer should be under the grimped part that takes physical force when pulled and keeps individual wires without forces. If the cable is not pushed in when grimped, it wont stay under the cable clamp and wires are visible like in video. We used to have a collague who always failed to do so.
@@tujuprojects While I don't disagree with you, this is an application-specific cable that should never be touched. It is not an ethernet cable or station cable that would see movement or connection/disconnection. I don't particularly take issue with it.
@ and yet there is no reason not to do it correctly, unless you want to somehow signal that you’re sloppy. People who work at the trade, take pride what they do and their skills and especially set themselves apart from business like this. There is likely something else what is not visible by naked eye.
i disagree - this is critical to know if you're looking for a whole house solution - this video shows what the heck you're getting into by essentially partnering with this manufacturer - it's literally a what's inside the box vid
Hysolis Apollo 5K... hysolis.com/discount/lithiumsolar?ref=lithiumsolar (Discount Code "LithiumSolar")
Review Video... ua-cam.com/video/njnvwov3-y4/v-deo.html
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Sweet teardown! Thanks for showing us the inside! Very clean!
I'm glad they have their parallel battery connection just hooked into the main bus bar. Hard to believe a lot of these other inverters set up for split phase don't have a way to synchronize the batteries together.
This was a very good walk through and it’s not put together with glue and totally reparable this is the best thing I’ve seen. As a total plugin user friendly. Thumbs up 👍
I have to say I’m more impressed with this unit after seeing the insides. Heavy, yes, expensive, definitely yes, but if you’ve ever been stuck in your home over 3 weeks during summer in TX without any air conditioning or power after a hurricane, you’d call this a bargain! Throw some PV panels out in the yard, plug in the fridge and a small window unit and it could honestly be a lifesaver. ⚡️☀️👍🤠
Good for the technology restricted folks.. as a DIY ER I get bored with the battery boxes but occasionally watch the videos to be able to help direct the people that won't diy for whatever reason.
I love the tears down and testing of budget Amazon batteries. Please keep it up
Fantastic teardown, Thanks for the detailed look inside this unit.
Awesome breakdown! 🤙
Awesome! Thanks for the teardown!
I was interested in getting the Hysolis Apollo 5K Generator, however, I want to wait to see a good review by you or other independent content providers on the Echo Flow Delta Pro Ultra. I would like to better understand how these two Solar Generators stack up against each other and which one you think is Better for Home use as a backup system.
Very clean build and a thorough review!
Thank you for your time and effort in making this video
Wow very complex power station and nicely assembled. I always wonder how many times you had to watch your own video to get it back together lol.
I like the saefty shielding! Very clean innards.
Excellent work and review, thank you.
What's the idle power draw from the battery with the inverter on?
Good question - I will find out.
voltronic inverters for this size about 40-60W idle power.
I really like the usage of prismatic cells and the overall design.
BUT, if we were to compare this large and expensive Solar Station with a 5-10kWh DIY battery or 1-2 server rack batteries on some cart with wheels and an All-In-One inverter attached to them, with about the same dimensions we get either the same power and functionality for very significantly less money, or much more power and much more battery capacity for similar money with exactly the same possibility to increase battery capacity and power in parallel by adding another battery or another All-In-One inverter, plus full monitoring with history in Solar Assistant, so from that perspective and performance/price considerations this unit ultimately doesn't make sense, although it looks very nice, but I'm sorry to say, BUT... :(
Their previous 3k model used a toridial low frequency inverter but now I see they went with a "cheaper" high frequency inverter. Am I correct in my understanding?
Great review and teardown. BTW, I do not know what is going on but i do not get the notification of your new video release.
Thank you.
Have you looked into the UNV Uniview Power Stations? Would love to see a Teardown video about them.
(I am looking to start to sell them in my store)
But Kinda Thinking mixed reviews about them , as kinda new,, The older models did not seem to be very good.,
i am not tech savy and I just starting my journey into EMP protecting my house,office, shop, barn etc. I have surge protection at my main panel as well as my sub panels in all the buildings. Also, I am grid tying some solar panels and not one, but two, back up generators (1 NG and 1 diesel) for redundancy and because I don't trust that diesel will be available in the future. I raise Bison and have walk in/ chest freezers that need to keep running. I like these Hysolis Apollo's as a backup for the house and office, but my question is, will an in line surge protector of some sort protect them from an EMP or lightning strike? They do seem fragile.
It is feasible to protect against most lightning related problems and any electrician can advise - you will use lightening conductors and surge diverters (Over Voltage Arresters). EMP is harder to manage - you will need to be much clearer about which of all the risks you are trying to protect against. Bing off grid and having a big gap between you and any conductors like pipes. electrical grid wiring, hard wired phone lines will mitigate a lot of the risk. A powerful EMP that is generated near you us very difficult to mitigate and expensive.
@@Anchor2012 thank you for your advice. you have addressed a few areas in which my electrician hadn't thought of including reducing proximity to other conductive surfaces ie: water pipes etc. I have accepted that this will be/ is an expensive endeavour, but building in redundancy gives me a fighting chance at least. I am now considering a seperate building all together. I am looking into an old retired grain bin (galvanized corrugated metal), that would ground directly. Everything inside will be "floating" on non conductive material in an attempt to simulate a Faraday cage.
What if you made a big galvanized corrugated metal Box to put your Apollo 15 in to protect it from EMP’s
thank you as always for your content - one question pls - you mentioned the balance leads had heat shrink on them - is that some type of heat shrink paste? sorry if it's obvious i'm a noob - i like the idea of having a paste that will solidify into a rubbery cover though - is there one you like to use that's like that? amazon link maybe? thank you again!
Heat shrink is rubber tube that you put the wire through then heat it with a heat gun (big hair dryer) and it shrinks snuggly around the wire. Just search for "heat shrink" on Amazon to see some examples.
thanks for that - i'm getting more experienced now and can better word my questions - i've seen a white solid paste like substance that's used to secure wires to batteries - it honestly looks like some kind of caulk - is there a proper name for the material that manufacturers use to secure balance wires to the external body of the battery so they don't move around?@@LithiumSolar
The type and brand of fans in the unit would be interesting to know. Hopefully not sleeve style rather ball bearing or fluid dynamic.
Excellent! I got mine up and running this week. Let me know if you figure a way to add another cheaper battery than the expansion battery they offer..... The inverter and panels are priced about right but those batteries... damn! if you need 4 or 5 of those $$$$$ A 20K battery bank should not cost that much. It reminds me of a printer... sell the printer cheap then charge out the arse for ink lol.
Hello! I have a bluetti ac50s powerstation. Can I charge it with a laptop charger?
I don't have a Bluetti AC50S, so I'm not sure - sorry.
Where is this made?
I have no idea and don't see any indication on their website if it's assembled in the US, China, or somewhere else.
If any of a thousand components fail, you're screwed. Complexity is the enemy of reliability.
This is not a complex unit at all lol you can swap out and repair any of those boards with off the shelf components. It's very easy 😂
@@WillProwseFor what percentage of Americans?
@@russingersoll5761I could do these basic repairs when I was 12. Even my grandma knows how to solder. If you're an American and you can't figure things out, I don't consider you American. It's called using common sense and figuring stuff out. What we need these days is more self-reliance. I'm tired of all this dependency on others
@@WillProwse You're going to have the opportunity to prove just how "American" you are sooner than you can imagine.
i'm a TOTAL noob and i'm telling you this setup is EXTREMELY user maintainable and modular unlike others - look at others - this one is built well with end user maintenance in mind - you can tell from this vid
You’re amazing
Great video, cant believe you that down
Best product
Not one of those RJ45 (Ethernet) cables are crimped correctly. The data may work, but there is zero strain relief on those delicate conductors. Looks very amateur in that regard.
If you're referring to the two short gray cables - they're shielded so the insulation+shield doesn't fit under the modular plug. Sure, they could have used a plug designed for shielded cable; however, I'm fine with how they are vs paying more for something I don't deem necessary. They are internal to the unit - you should never touch or even see them, not subject to damage.
I was disappointed to see that this unit uses a low cost, low surge, high frequency, transformerless inverter. I was hoping to see a more reliable, higher surge, low frequency, transformer based inverter.
Exactly, good point, for that high price it would be possible to buy a full Victron solar system with a low frequency inverter and make it portable wouldn't be much bigger either. The first version of the Apollo 5K didn't work well, or only partially and most importantly it was dangerous, now they have come up with a fix that works with several reviews showing that they fixed the failure from the first version - kind of a WAW effect, but when thinking about the Apollo 5K and especially when getting down to paying for the this Power Station, you kind of don't know why it's so expensive...
I am curious. How many of your viewers can afford a $5000 backup system or a camping source of energy?
Right!!!!
I don't have any statistical information regarding the financials of my viewers.
And how many can repair a system that delicate and complex when a component fails in a grid-down, supply chain disrupted, SHTF situation?
EcoFlow sells millions of units, so quite a lot haha
@@russingersoll5761delicate and complex?? 😂 those boards can be swapped and serviced by a teenager. Is your comment a joke? That one cracked me up
Those RJ45 are wrongly grimped, no need to talk about quality.
What do you mean they're wrongly crimped? What's wrong with them?
@@LithiumSolarthe cable outer layer should be under the grimped part that takes physical force when pulled and keeps individual wires without forces. If the cable is not pushed in when grimped, it wont stay under the cable clamp and wires are visible like in video. We used to have a collague who always failed to do so.
@@tujuprojects While I don't disagree with you, this is an application-specific cable that should never be touched. It is not an ethernet cable or station cable that would see movement or connection/disconnection. I don't particularly take issue with it.
1:12 you should not be able to see individual wires here.
@ and yet there is no reason not to do it correctly, unless you want to somehow signal that you’re sloppy. People who work at the trade, take pride what they do and their skills and especially set themselves apart from business like this. There is likely something else what is not visible by naked eye.
Turning into pure product commercials
I don't understand your comment. Which part of this is a commercial?
i disagree - this is critical to know if you're looking for a whole house solution - this video shows what the heck you're getting into by essentially partnering with this manufacturer - it's literally a what's inside the box vid
I disagree and even if it was this is still what I want to see before I spend my money .