Hysolis Apollo 5K... hysolis.com/discount/lithiumsolar?ref=lithiumsolar (Discount Code "LithiumSolar") Teardown Video... ua-cam.com/video/ilIGE8d1uDE/v-deo.html Please let me know what you guys think of this massive power station and if there's any additional testing you would like to see! :)
@@WillProwse It seemed like it was about to shut down then the air compressor reached full and as soon as the air compressor shut off, it returned to a normal state. I wasn't able to replicate that a second time so I concluded that it was giving a warning before throwing an alert/fault code.
@@LithiumSolar looking at the video again closely you can see on the 2nd run it did amber alert before the red alert shut down, but it only left 1 code in your menu. Also on most systems like this if the load is very very large it will pull the battery voltage down as if the voltage in the battery is just above the yellow anyway, then the heavy load in most cases pull the battery just below so in this case it went yellow as in charge me soon if you continue to pull this many amps / volts at this rate, once the load has gone the voltage climbs back to the green as it went back over half full battery, aka amber is just battery getting low. Just my observations of course I could be wrong, but thanks again for the video. 👍
and "E07" instead of a meaningful message on a screen with so much real estate and microprocessors with megabytes of dirt cheap memory! C'mon Hysolis, put a bit of effort into the coding!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown on the feature-set of the Apollo. It really is promising when a company listens to the needs of their consumers (as well as those testing these units out).
Excellent content! Cant wait for your updated video on this. I ordered one and should be here tomorrow. So far it has taken about 3 weeks for delivery.
@@LithiumSolar Its the shipping company not Hysolis.... my package has sat in Tyler Tx about 1.5 hours away for a week and they finally called to set up a delivery time for today. They said they have certain routes they do so my drop is a part of their delivery route for a particular day they are in this area. Hysolis got the shipment "out" within two days of ordering. Also; I cant complain with free shipping lol. And those fancy cable wraps..... are handle guards for the inverter.
Very good and interesting review. I would have expected at least a 5000W inverter to go with the very large size and very high price. I don't like that the cables for the parallel connection are not 90 degrees, where unnecessarily take up a lot of extra space in the back. For such a large device I miss a monitoring system with history and the possibility to connect, monitoring and setting the unit from anywhere with internet - this should be the common standard nowadays for all Power stations, something like Solar Assistant or VRM portal, and I would like the possibility of monitoring for online and offline mode, where in offline mode the data would be stored in internal memory and in the next online mode the offline data with usage would be automatically transferred to the monitoring system itself. Hopefully some Portable Solar Station will have this functionality someday. Or at least have the possibility to connect to a Solar Assistant like the All-In-One inverters have. But otherwise, it's a very good Power Station even though it's very expensive and if it works it will be at the top of the market and competitors will have to think to have something competitive to this Power Station Hopefully there will be a 230V version for Europe soon.
agreed. the unit seems extremely well built, but you can make a diy with a larger inverter and same capacity for less than half the price. i understand companies exist to make profit, but it shouldn't be over double the cost of buying the components yourself and doing the assembly (which is really not that hard...)
Everything looks good, but will wait a year or 2 before purchasing. Hoping by then if any upgrades and or corrections are needed, will be done. My Blueitti 200 Max so far is reliable.
I need one that is about half of everything this one does. I recently installed a DC assist mini-split heat-pump. At this time of year I don't need heating or cooling. There is four solar panels connected directly to my mini-split. 1,320 watts 180 VOC going no where because I'm not using it at this time of year. We still use hot water though. I have a 10 gallon electric water heater in series with my gas fired tank-less water heater as back up. The 10 gallon tank is in by-pass mode right now. I would like to put a unit like you show here into my 10 gallon tank to preheat water before it goes into my on demand. The problem I see here though is that this unit has way to many features that I don't need. Do they make a unit that does half of what this one does?
I bought and run a split phase setup. 10.7 kwh is less capacity than I thought. I need 2 expansion batteries to give me another 10.7 kwh. Total kwh of 21.5kwh which is the beginning of enough capacity for me…..but that will cost me another $7400. Im thinking I should have bought a EG4 system with a 30,000 kwh server battery rack for close to or less than my 21 kwh apollo system. Do yourself a favor and look at the EG4 diy system. You will want more capacity. Apollos great but really expensive! I would not buy them again.
Too many new power stations offer up huge battery capacity possibilities. My point: at 4.5 kw input and 114kw battery 0 to 100% soc is 25.3 hours plus and extra hour or 2 floating. I know the full 100 is extreme but 114kw needs 11k charge if this power station was using no more than 30kw battery then yes , nice unit. Maybe I am spoiled with a 11kw max charge, currently 9k working and 11k by next month. Not trying to be negative just factual and informative.
I’ve added this comment to all that are getting into some heavy lifting. Get an engine lift. You can get the battery 🪫 between the legs, it’s got wheels, easy to do a one person lift. And lifting up to a wall for mounting. They can be rented, and not so expensive to buy. And saving your back 😂
I wonder if you can help me I need a powerful power station for my mobile tire service I'm running an air compressor a tire machine a wheel balancer do you have any recommendations
Yes, that is the unattended mode. You would set it to battery first, select unattended, then select your desired restart percentage. Once the solar charges up the battery to the set percentage state of charge, the inverter will automatically turn back on.
🎉best ive seen How much n will u take payments n if so how much n for how long. Can i power my 110 volt frodge n 110 deep freeze n could i power my 110 v ac n maybe for a 3 hours ⁰while n id unplug either or fridge or deep freeze
Finally a proper, useful, well designed unit sadly its overpriced. The amount of garbage units available out there that don't stand a chance to this product.
No mention of power use on "standby". Assume that this will come in "future"? Nice to see PV input voltage up to 500v. Assume all UL listings are there? Pricey INDEED! And the expansion batteries are at twice and equivalent server rack battery! Trying to recoup development costs up front? Or trying to cash in on US income tax incentives? Neither are good business models. There are much less expensive UPS options out there. Maybe RV people? But doubtful with the 25A recepticle, price, and late to the game. PASS
Video idea: I feel like there are a lot of people out there who live on a well setup and would love to know how best to size a battery backup for their pump. And, for that matter, what sort of battery backup would be best as far a voltage? A solar tie-in? Would a DC pump be a good idea? If so, what to look for in a good one? Etc., etc. Just an idea. I think a lot of us on wells would greatly benefit from that kind of content. When my power goes, not having water is really the only thing that keeps me from waiting it out here at the house. I'd love to change that and I would imagine there are quite a few of us in that situation.
I'm impressed, but unless they do a 230v/240v version I would need 2 of there just to get started as English power we use 220v to 250v here, also our hot water pump and shower pulls 280v @ 60amps making it 9.1kw, so its looking like it might become expensive really quick for my location in the world if I was to adopt this portable power station. 😔 Good video and thank you for taking the time to share, I'll be looking forward to the next video. Cheers from England. 👍
It's important to remember that this was designed for use in the US. I'm not even sure if you can switch it to 50Hz. I didn't see any settings anywhere for this. Also, you must have one of those instant water heaters? The problem with those is they don't work well off-grid because of the instantaneous demand, as you noted :) My heat pump water heater takes hours to heat up a full tank but it only pulls around 400W.
Yeah its expensive but if your using English £ then its 2x mate, as England requires 240V so you will need 2 system just to get one lot of 240V as each unit is only 120v and in England you would only get your shaver and travel tooth brush to work on that.
I would like to be able to connect this Portable Solar Station to the popular Home Assistant where it could be used for automation and monitoring with history from anywhere I can connect to the internet. In Home Assistant there is a ready-made solar monitoring environment where all it needs is data from any solar system to be delivered to it. This and similar features should be the natural standard for all Portable Solar Stations and systems nowadays, even for small, medium and these large ones.
This thing pushes the limit of "portable", but is otherwise the most capable unit we've seen. Personally, I would never spend that much money on something with all of the components combined into a single device. If any one thing goes wrong (and there is a lot in there to possibly fail!) you would have to ship it somewhere for service or wind up with a very expensive paper weight. For smaller, truly portable power stations, all-in-ones are great, but when you start talking about whole-house solutions, a component-based system is the way to go. You get more capability in exchange for less portability, but avoid having a single point of failure. The only way I see the Hysolis Apollo making sense is if you split time, living in an off-grid cabin part of the year and in a larger RV the rest of the year. Moving something this big more than once or twice a year would be more trouble than it's worth. For any permanent off-grid solutions...a component-based system would be far more cost-effective.
@@LithiumSolar It's arraived to the big one ch (my comment gets automatically deleted if I write the name). I'm considering getting them, but not before a review
dunno, just don't trust that many components that can fail and drop the whole system. I'm going to continue to build my own generators, where I can replace individual components that I installed, and know how to source, and replace. I learned this from watching your initial solar generator video!
@@josephbrabenderiii2049 The receptacle is a NEMA TT-30R (30A). The maximum continuous output of the power station is 25A even though it's using a 30A receptacle. I hope that clears up the confusion.
Hysolis Apollo 5K... hysolis.com/discount/lithiumsolar?ref=lithiumsolar (Discount Code "LithiumSolar")
Teardown Video... ua-cam.com/video/ilIGE8d1uDE/v-deo.html
Please let me know what you guys think of this massive power station and if there's any additional testing you would like to see! :)
Glad you got the same efficiency figure that I got for capacity test. Was wondering what you would get
Oh weird, I've never seen the blinking battery symbol under load before
@@WillProwse It seemed like it was about to shut down then the air compressor reached full and as soon as the air compressor shut off, it returned to a normal state. I wasn't able to replicate that a second time so I concluded that it was giving a warning before throwing an alert/fault code.
@@LithiumSolar looking at the video again closely you can see on the 2nd run it did amber alert before the red alert shut down, but it only left 1 code in your menu.
Also on most systems like this if the load is very very large it will pull the battery voltage down as if the voltage in the battery is just above the yellow anyway, then the heavy load in most cases pull the battery just below so in this case it went yellow as in charge me soon if you continue to pull this many amps / volts at this rate, once the load has gone the voltage climbs back to the green as it went back over half full battery, aka amber is just battery getting low.
Just my observations of course I could be wrong, but thanks again for the video. 👍
and "E07" instead of a meaningful message on a screen with so much real estate and microprocessors with megabytes of dirt cheap memory!
C'mon Hysolis, put a bit of effort into the coding!
Are you planning to pst any new videos on the Apollo?
Thanks for the detailed breakdown on the feature-set of the Apollo. It really is promising when a company listens to the needs of their consumers (as well as those testing these units out).
Excellent content! Cant wait for your updated video on this. I ordered one and should be here tomorrow. So far it has taken about 3 weeks for delivery.
Wow 3 weeks? Has it been in transit that whole time? They ship freight so I'd expect it to take a bit longer but 3 weeks sounds a bit excessive...?
@@LithiumSolar Its the shipping company not Hysolis.... my package has sat in Tyler Tx about 1.5 hours away for a week and they finally called to set up a delivery time for today. They said they have certain routes they do so my drop is a part of their delivery route for a particular day they are in this area. Hysolis got the shipment "out" within two days of ordering. Also; I cant complain with free shipping lol. And those fancy cable wraps..... are handle guards for the inverter.
That is a beast! Very nice unit, Thank you for the review
You have TWO of them! Sweet!
That would be perfect for a tiny home or vanlife type power, really well thought through unit for sure.
What a beast of a PPS, great review!
You are a very good UA-camr, I love your videos.❤
Very good and interesting review.
I would have expected at least a 5000W inverter to go with the very large size and very high price.
I don't like that the cables for the parallel connection are not 90 degrees, where unnecessarily take up a lot of extra space in the back.
For such a large device I miss a monitoring system with history and the possibility to connect, monitoring and setting the unit from anywhere with internet - this should be the common standard nowadays for all Power stations, something like Solar Assistant or VRM portal, and I would like the possibility of monitoring for online and offline mode, where in offline mode the data would be stored in internal memory and in the next online mode the offline data with usage would be automatically transferred to the monitoring system itself. Hopefully some Portable Solar Station will have this functionality someday.
Or at least have the possibility to connect to a Solar Assistant like the All-In-One inverters have.
But otherwise, it's a very good Power Station even though it's very expensive and if it works it will be at the top of the market and competitors will have to think to have something competitive to this Power Station
Hopefully there will be a 230V version for Europe soon.
agreed. the unit seems extremely well built, but you can make a diy with a larger inverter and same capacity for less than half the price. i understand companies exist to make profit, but it shouldn't be over double the cost of buying the components yourself and doing the assembly (which is really not that hard...)
@@jayjonah2762 I agree too, and it will always be DIY possible to further easily upgradable and if one DIY component fails, it will just replace it.
Hi… great presentation!
Have you heard of solid state lithium from Yoshino? Any quick comments? Something to watch?
Everything looks good, but will wait a year or 2 before purchasing. Hoping by then if any upgrades and or corrections are needed, will be done. My Blueitti 200 Max so far is reliable.
Just to clarify, a single unit cannot provide 240 volts out?.
Excellent review, thank you.
That is correct. Two units are required for 240V.
Nice system but the clunky work around for the 240 volt is a deal breaker in this day they should have the 240 in one unit.
100% agree, makes it very expensive to get this to work in the England as you need 2 just to start.
Nice review Mike!
What do you think of the Newti Power 12v 300amp battery?
That's a great unit. As far as I know it is the first that will restart the AC after a low battery shutdown. Ecoflow does not do this.
I need one that is about half of everything this one does. I recently installed a DC assist mini-split heat-pump. At this time of year I don't need heating or cooling. There is four solar panels connected directly to my mini-split. 1,320 watts 180 VOC going no where because I'm not using it at this time of year. We still use hot water though. I have a 10 gallon electric water heater in series with my gas fired tank-less water heater as back up. The 10 gallon tank is in by-pass mode right now. I would like to put a unit like you show here into my 10 gallon tank to preheat water before it goes into my on demand. The problem I see here though is that this unit has way to many features that I don't need. Do they make a unit that does half of what this one does?
I bought and run a split phase setup. 10.7 kwh is less capacity than I thought. I need 2 expansion batteries to give me another 10.7 kwh. Total kwh of 21.5kwh which is the beginning of enough capacity for me…..but that will cost me another $7400. Im thinking I should have bought a EG4 system with a 30,000 kwh server battery rack for close to or less than my 21 kwh apollo system. Do yourself a favor and look at the EG4 diy system. You will want more capacity. Apollos great but really expensive! I would not buy them again.
Too many new power stations offer up huge battery capacity possibilities. My point: at 4.5 kw input and 114kw battery 0 to 100% soc is 25.3 hours plus and extra hour or 2 floating. I know the full 100 is extreme but 114kw needs 11k charge if this power station was using no more than 30kw battery then yes , nice unit. Maybe I am spoiled with a 11kw max charge, currently 9k working and 11k by next month. Not trying to be negative just factual and informative.
I’ve added this comment to all that are getting into some heavy lifting. Get an engine lift. You can get the battery 🪫 between the legs, it’s got wheels, easy to do a one person lift. And lifting up to a wall for mounting. They can be rented, and not so expensive to buy. And saving your back 😂
I do need an engine lift... It's on my future "to buy" list for actual engine-lifting purposes lol but great idea finding other uses!
Great review and brilliant unit, would love to see a video comparison of this vs. the Ecoflow Delta Pro, do you think this unit is a better buy?
I have not used the Ecoflow Delta Pro (yet) but that price does look rather attractive!
Nice Review
I wonder if you can help me I need a powerful power station for my mobile tire service I'm running an air compressor a tire machine a wheel balancer do you have any recommendations
what about the new force 15k?!
I do not have any experience with that particular product.
oh okay - heard great things !
Can it automatically turn on the AC outlets after a loss of power once power is available?
When completely off grid,
and only using solar panels.
Yes, that is the unattended mode. You would set it to battery first, select unattended, then select your desired restart percentage. Once the solar charges up the battery to the set percentage state of charge, the inverter will automatically turn back on.
🎉best ive seen How much n will u take payments n if so how much n for how long. Can i power my 110 volt frodge n 110 deep freeze n could i power my 110 v ac n maybe for a 3 hours ⁰while n id unplug either or fridge or deep freeze
Finally a proper, useful, well designed unit sadly its overpriced. The amount of garbage units available out there that don't stand a chance to this product.
No mention of power use on "standby". Assume that this will come in "future"?
Nice to see PV input voltage up to 500v.
Assume all UL listings are there?
Pricey INDEED! And the expansion batteries are at twice and equivalent server rack battery! Trying to recoup development costs up front? Or trying to cash in on US income tax incentives? Neither are good business models.
There are much less expensive UPS options out there.
Maybe RV people? But doubtful with the 25A recepticle, price, and late to the game.
PASS
arrgghh its good but another useless for most of the world(and where i live) 120v.
This seems like the best of all units so far.
Video idea: I feel like there are a lot of people out there who live on a well setup and would love to know how best to size a battery backup for their pump. And, for that matter, what sort of battery backup would be best as far a voltage? A solar tie-in? Would a DC pump be a good idea? If so, what to look for in a good one? Etc., etc. Just an idea. I think a lot of us on wells would greatly benefit from that kind of content. When my power goes, not having water is really the only thing that keeps me from waiting it out here at the house. I'd love to change that and I would imagine there are quite a few of us in that situation.
I'm impressed, but unless they do a 230v/240v version I would need 2 of there just to get started as English power we use 220v to 250v here, also our hot water pump and shower pulls 280v @ 60amps making it 9.1kw, so its looking like it might become expensive really quick for my location in the world if I was to adopt this portable power station. 😔
Good video and thank you for taking the time to share, I'll be looking forward to the next video.
Cheers from England. 👍
It's important to remember that this was designed for use in the US. I'm not even sure if you can switch it to 50Hz. I didn't see any settings anywhere for this. Also, you must have one of those instant water heaters? The problem with those is they don't work well off-grid because of the instantaneous demand, as you noted :) My heat pump water heater takes hours to heat up a full tank but it only pulls around 400W.
£4,157.00 😆
Yeah its expensive but if your using English £ then its 2x mate, as England requires 240V so you will need 2 system just to get one lot of 240V as each unit is only 120v and in England you would only get your shaver and travel tooth brush to work on that.
I would like to be able to connect this Portable Solar Station to the popular Home Assistant where it could be used for automation and monitoring with history from anywhere I can connect to the internet.
In Home Assistant there is a ready-made solar monitoring environment where all it needs is data from any solar system to be delivered to it.
This and similar features should be the natural standard for all Portable Solar Stations and systems nowadays, even for small, medium and these large ones.
How do I get 220V output to charge EV? Does this qualify for 30% tax credit?
You would need two of these units to get 240V for charging an EV. I don't know regarding the tax credit, I'd suggest talking with a tax expert.
This thing pushes the limit of "portable", but is otherwise the most capable unit we've seen. Personally, I would never spend that much money on something with all of the components combined into a single device. If any one thing goes wrong (and there is a lot in there to possibly fail!) you would have to ship it somewhere for service or wind up with a very expensive paper weight. For smaller, truly portable power stations, all-in-ones are great, but when you start talking about whole-house solutions, a component-based system is the way to go. You get more capability in exchange for less portability, but avoid having a single point of failure. The only way I see the Hysolis Apollo making sense is if you split time, living in an off-grid cabin part of the year and in a larger RV the rest of the year. Moving something this big more than once or twice a year would be more trouble than it's worth. For any permanent off-grid solutions...a component-based system would be far more cost-effective.
Great stuff man.
The fine details you show are very helpful. Thanks again for a great detailed review.
Are you going to review the new EVE LF560k?
Once they trickle down to some of the distributors, sure.
@@LithiumSolar It's arraived to the big one ch (my comment gets automatically deleted if I write the name). I'm considering getting them, but not before a review
I've never needed the tool to disconnect mc4's. always been able to do with my fingers.
Really? You must have some small fingers. There's a few I could probably pinch out but 90% of them there's no way lol.
Love the transitions, hehe.
dunno, just don't trust that many components that can fail and drop the whole system. I'm going to continue to build my own generators, where I can replace individual components that I installed, and know how to source, and replace. I learned this from watching your initial solar generator video!
12v @10a DC charging blows gale force wind....
Yeah, definitely not the preferred charging method... LOL
Are lithium batteries really better? 🤔 💬 Really? No!
What are you comparing them to that gave you the "no" answer? I'm not aware of any battery that's better than LFP for this application.
Its a rural dwellers dream machine, two would equal just one power pole setup price. 120/240v perfect.
Not sure but I think the black leather-type wraps are for the handles of the unit, not for holding wire bundles together?
What a beast of a power house. Lots of needed connections. Awesome.
Price ??
What about it?
@@tompsheridantsheridant7354 You can look at the website and see the price for yourself. Why do I need to do that for you? Such silliness...
What a shame the RV plug is only 25 amps instead of 30 amps.
Agreed. Although he said 30A at one point, the Hysolis site confirms 25A. Strange choice.
@@josephbrabenderiii2049 The receptacle is a NEMA TT-30R (30A). The maximum continuous output of the power station is 25A even though it's using a 30A receptacle. I hope that clears up the confusion.