Tesla Model 3 Beat Almost Every Electric Car In A Race Across The Country! I-90 Surge Team Recap

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  • @anthonyc8499
    @anthonyc8499 Місяць тому +44

    Jordan is the absolute hero of this series! Definitely deserves a podcast episode of his own to talk about what went into filming and editing.

  • @andyzegerman
    @andyzegerman Місяць тому +39

    All I can say is respect to Team M3, you guys optimized it as best as one could do. Also, Joran Shiefer for the hard work editing all the videos.

  • @FitzieJJ
    @FitzieJJ Місяць тому +18

    This gang ran a perfect race. Thanks to Jordan for being the guy to frequently update the viewing audience on the positions of each car during the race.

  • @dennisschlieckau8723
    @dennisschlieckau8723 Місяць тому +23

    The lack of V3 charging in the Plains cost the M3 about 1 hour of trip time.

  • @craigcritelli6327
    @craigcritelli6327 Місяць тому +13

    An I-95 challenge from Maine to Florida would be cool with having to deal with more traffic and cities

    • @jerrymildredpetersen3177
      @jerrymildredpetersen3177 Місяць тому +2

      Same with I-75. We drive it a couple times a year between Tampa and Ohio. We typically spend about 2-3 hours in traffic jams and 2 hours charging over our 1,100 mile route. I keep telling people that the charging infrastructure isn’t the problem. The problem is the highway infrastructure.
      And props to Jordan for a Herculean editing job. I’d love to see a video about that aspect of the adventure. You can have great footage, but it won’t do you any good without great editing.

  • @ABrider-f1c
    @ABrider-f1c Місяць тому +13

    Jordan is amazing, love listening to this guy.

    • @MountainManGuy
      @MountainManGuy Місяць тому

      He's awesome. I wanna be friends with the guy

    • @heyfrancie
      @heyfrancie Місяць тому +4

      Jordan is the best ❤

    • @tomm5936
      @tomm5936 Місяць тому

      @@heyfrancie agree Jordan is great and hey Francie, we miss you, hope you’re doing well.

  • @Longsnowsm
    @Longsnowsm Місяць тому +12

    This team optimiezed the best out of all the teams. They didn't have the battles at the chargers like the CCS teams did. They managed to get through that mess of V2 chargers without losing too much time. Close proximity to the highways gives the Tesla's a leg up in these races. However I have seen the same craziness with the Tesla route planner so I always pad the SOC now after having it pull the rug on me. This team managed everything the best. I do think if Lucid and Ioniq would have managed their races better they would have been all right together in that race for second. I think the Tesla M3 legitimately was a 4th place car neck and neck with the Plaid. CCS problems really did impact the results.

  • @TheIoniqGuy
    @TheIoniqGuy Місяць тому +32

    Spot on Kyle. I looked over some footage last night and we lost about 23 minutes due to handshake issues at chargers, getting pulled over and our Starbucks bathroom detour. We would have likely gotten second otherwise.

    • @tomm5936
      @tomm5936 Місяць тому +4

      I was rooting for you. It was great you came third and I think better than many of us predicted. I had expected both the Lucid and the Mercedes to do better.

    • @georgepelton5645
      @georgepelton5645 Місяць тому +1

      why did the cop pull you over?

    • @Jordan_Schiefer
      @Jordan_Schiefer Місяць тому +4

      BUT with that logic, if we had not lost our handshake time challenges with a couple superchargers, our 5 minute delay with EA stop, and our Dunkin Donuts stop… would’ve still stayed ahead. 😎 Plus all our V2 superchargers holding us back…

    • @tomm5936
      @tomm5936 Місяць тому

      @@Jordan_Schiefer now you’re sounding like Kyle when he tried to convince us the cybertruck was first in the coast to coast truck race if he adjusted for various things 😀

    • @fleecystheking
      @fleecystheking Місяць тому +7

      @@Jordan_SchieferThis is not a healthy debate, frankly. IONIQ 6 and Model 3 did the same time to cross the country, that 15 minute delta was not enough to truly call a winner over 2 days. Too many variables could have impacted the result. Traffic can cause a 15 minute delay on a commute home! To my eye, the Supercharger network didn’t make a massive difference to push Teslas ahead for this race. The CCS networks are catching up. Race again with IONNA in the picture and Supercharger V4 sites in a year or two, we’ll see.

  • @888dvdbkr
    @888dvdbkr Місяць тому +7

    good job on editing Jordan! it's crazy how well this car did and the ioniq as well compared to the price tag of the other cars.

  • @thumper1747
    @thumper1747 Місяць тому +3

    Always love a multi hour out of spec video, settled down in front of the TV for the last stint and loved it

  • @GueramSoukiasian
    @GueramSoukiasian Місяць тому +8

    Thanks Kyle for your excellent video
    Thanks to the team !
    Don’t hesitate if you need a team for EV testing in cold winter of Quebec:)

  • @junehanzawa5165
    @junehanzawa5165 Місяць тому +4

    The Lucid's mistake was not charging deeper into the pack. Even at only 134kW after 50%, which then goes up over 160kW around 60% SoC to around 73%, the Lucid could have definitely had a chance to take the Model 3. All the extra time spent getting off the highway and back all the way to CCS stations cost them way more time than staying there longer and skipping a charging location on every stretch.
    The Taycan made only 1 mistake that I remember, which was stopping charging a little over 60% SoC where it was still getting 297kW. That caused them to have their only pull back on their speed section to be able get to the next charger.
    Great, great work by the Model 3 team, though. Congratulations to all 3 of you. And extra props to Jordan for all the work he did on all these videos. That was a massive undertaking on your part.

  • @joelm077
    @joelm077 Місяць тому +13

    would love the total cost of all the cars fuel. You could do a short vid on "total nerd stats" from the trip with other stuff.

  • @anton_grahn
    @anton_grahn Місяць тому +7

    Model 3 RWD Long Range is the GOAT 🐐🤩

  • @jordanjohnson9820
    @jordanjohnson9820 Місяць тому +3

    Honestly, this has been my favorite video series to come out on UA-cam in a long time. Incredibly relatable for someone like me trying to better understand the EV industry, options, differences, and tips/tricks to make road trips more efficient.
    Rhetorically, I’m baffled as to why Tesla hasn’t improved their charging curve over the past 3-4 years. Is the Taycan thermal management system really that far superior to Tesla’s? Or, Is Tesla just sand bagging to preserve battery longevity? (Anecdotally not what I’m seeing with the used Tesla I recently purchased.
    All in all, absolutely LOVED the series and appreciate the time and effort put in! Would love to participate in one of these if you ever need a driver down in Florida! 🙌🏼

  • @rosmarin2438
    @rosmarin2438 Місяць тому +21

    Imagine a 800V Model 3

    • @dennisschlieckau8723
      @dennisschlieckau8723 Місяць тому +14

      Imagine if the Entire Tesla Supercharger network actually supported 800V. Maybe by 2030.

    • @Lynyrd_Evnyrd
      @Lynyrd_Evnyrd Місяць тому +4

      @@dennisschlieckau8723 Ha! The original Supercharger came out in 2012 as well as the V2 in 2013 and we still have lots of those kicking around across the US 12 years later. 800V will be far from universal 5 years from now in 2030.

    • @walidoutaleb7121
      @walidoutaleb7121 Місяць тому

      ​@@dennisschlieckau8723 they have finished developping the v4 stalls. It supports vehicule 400-1000v charges up to 500kw in fact the CT can peak at 500kw at them. They have managed to make supercharger simpler and more cost effective. The first is comming online jan 2025. And my guess is that the supercharger network will grow exponentionally.

    • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
      @0ooTheMAXXoo0 Місяць тому +1

      @@Lynyrd_Evnyrd Yeah, not every session needs that fast a speed, so they stay in use rather than being replaced. Maybe one could say that every location will have the 1000v chargers by 2030, even if there are still older chargers as well.

    • @dennisschlieckau8723
      @dennisschlieckau8723 Місяць тому

      @@Lynyrd_Evnyrd There are currently around 2500 SuC locations in the USA. At any given time throughout the year there are an average of 150 under construction around the country. There are also 680 publicly documented in Planning and Permit phases in US. Tesla just announced they are in the Permitting process to start rolling out the True V4 installations Mid-2025. I’m sure at some point they will start updating some of the Older locations where possible. Most of the Early location leases (10 years) typically are coming to an end. Which means New lease agreements need to be established or the site is shut down and replaced with an updated site Nearby.

  • @BradC44
    @BradC44 Місяць тому +4

    What was the total cost of charging? I wanted to compare the Tycan, M3, and Acura charging/fuel costs for the total trip.

  • @tomm5936
    @tomm5936 Місяць тому +9

    46:27 I’m waiting for the directors cut extended version 😀

  • @777Outrigger
    @777Outrigger Місяць тому +16

    I was almost a never-Tesla person. Boy, was I stupid. ..... Long story short, my wife and I now have 2 Model Ys and they've been perfect, not even any creeks or rattles. Now I'm an only-Tesla person.

  • @YeOldeTraveller
    @YeOldeTraveller Місяць тому +2

    I really think the key message is that any of these cars will road trip well. Some will be more comfortable than others.
    Infrastructure still needs work, but it was good enough to allow this to happen.
    One thing I actually agree with Kyle on, the placement of the chargers is significant. This is one of the things I hope to see improve as CPOs like Pilot, Loves, and TA deploy more chargers.

  • @hutchrt0596
    @hutchrt0596 Місяць тому +3

    I think you guys missed a very valuable piece of information that a lot of people would have loved to have heard of!!!!! How much did you spend for charging, and even more so gas, to get there?? I would have loved to known how much gas that Acura took and how much you saved on that Tesla Model. 3?

  • @anthonyc8499
    @anthonyc8499 Місяць тому +4

    Hey Kyle! Any chance you can do a podcast on what went into the idea of doing this race, the planning, preparations, logistics, coordinating with manufacturers, selecting the cars and teams, etc? I don't think this route could have even been done in a non-Tesla before last year (2023)!

  • @darinbrazil5496
    @darinbrazil5496 Місяць тому +2

    This car/team proves that efficiency and charging slightly more than you need is king, not trying to get in at 0 or below using buffer to have the highest charge rates and risking having to slow down to extend range to make it to a charger. This team had an average SOC arrival at a charger of 4%+. This is the way to do it by not having to waste time slowing down and having plenty of energy always.

  • @bavariancarenthusiast2722
    @bavariancarenthusiast2722 Місяць тому +2

    Great awesome eye opening race guys. Thank you so much ! Nothing else has been done compared. What for me comes as a surprise - CCS is not a a problem at all if you drive through America today. Super chargers are not the holy grail. There are 2 clear winners - M3 and the Taycan which is so much in its own league almost legendary. biggest letdown is the Lucid for me, really disappointing

  • @ojlise
    @ojlise Місяць тому +2

    I watched all 10 hrs of this race, great fun. Will you share the data shown in this video. Would love to do some analysis.

  • @Tstarke97
    @Tstarke97 Місяць тому +1

    Jordan is the real champ! How hard would it be in editing to add a map overlay the whole time so we don’t have to wait for Ryan or Jordan’s update clips?

  • @Cyrribrae
    @Cyrribrae 27 днів тому

    Aww. Nice to hear Francie in the ad reads still. Well done Jordan with editing!

  • @timoliver8940
    @timoliver8940 Місяць тому +2

    OOS rescued my Saturday evenings from some of the most awful TV on the UK networks and made it fun again - thank goodness too for HDMI connectors for TV’s and tablet computers so I could view it on a big screen TV.
    Please can we have an even longer run next? How about Norway’s North Cape to Spain’s Tarifa which can be done all by road without ferries - 3424 miles and 53 hours driving not including charging time……….. ABRP reckons 66.5hrs including 26 charging stops in my 2024 Mini Countryman S E. The oldie car maybe should be an old Kona (aka the wind knife for its great efficiency) or a Renault Zoe ZE50 with CCS charging?

  • @derylhunt4494
    @derylhunt4494 Місяць тому +2

    Great video guys!

  • @COSolar6419
    @COSolar6419 Місяць тому +6

    So if the Ioniq 6 had access to Superchargers on this trip would they have beaten the Model 3? Or was the Supercharger advantage worth less than 15 minutes over a 3,000 mile trip?

    • @Lewis_Standing
      @Lewis_Standing Місяць тому +1

      The 800v cars don't charge well with the superchargers. V2 and 3 are only 400v compatible. The ioniqs use their motor inverter to step it up but only manage 80KW in them. Vs their native 230KW charging on 800V

    • @COSolar6419
      @COSolar6419 Місяць тому +4

      @ I know but did the Supercharger network only provide a 15 minute advantage over the course of 3,000 miles? Assuming the Model 3 and Ioniq 6 are roughly comparable cars.

    • @badbasic
      @badbasic Місяць тому +1

      Tesla network actually screwed them on this one, one third of the trip was V2 superchargers which cost them quite a bit of time, probably around an hour.

    • @badbasic
      @badbasic Місяць тому

      ​@@COSolar6419If you are asking this to justify purchasing one car over the other, don't, just get the one you like more.
      I would ask you to consider that Ioniq 6 is quite a bit longer with a smaller trunk. That was a big deal for me with a family of 4, living in Europe. It might not matter to you at all if you're a single guy from the US, we parallel park a lot into tight spaces here.😅

    • @COSolar6419
      @COSolar6419 Місяць тому

      @ I am asking whether the Tesla DC fast charging network is actually as superior as many have claimed. In the US it is often cited as the reason to buy a Tesla.

  • @ianbeanie
    @ianbeanie 26 днів тому +4

    Just wait until the new juniper long range rwd comes out… it will be a beast!

  • @nthused
    @nthused Місяць тому

    My partner and I just returned from a 3-week trip in our 23 Model 3 from Dallas to Providence - then to Philly, Fort Meade and back home. Used FSD quite a bit (as we got the 30 trial). PHENOMENAL road trip car. Didn’t feel beat down at the end of each day as many cars have done in the past. We’re both over 60 years old - so we didn’t drive over 11 hours each day.

  • @johankarlsson6
    @johankarlsson6 28 днів тому +1

    Mind you I’m a Tesla Model 3 owner. I’m not trying to take away anything from the success of Team Tesla Model 3. 🎉

  • @mcrkon
    @mcrkon Місяць тому +3

    Can't wait for the 2025 Reverse I-90 Surge!
    And BTW the town in Eastern WA was Ritzville.

    • @zachlafond2652
      @zachlafond2652 Місяць тому +5

      They need to do a long distance COLD weather race.

  • @shannonwoodcock1035
    @shannonwoodcock1035 Місяць тому +1

    Boston to Key West. But leaving Beantown in January or February to test how the EVs handle cold temps on a long road trip. Same car group if possible.

  • @bigtenpochet
    @bigtenpochet Місяць тому +6

    This team being able to arrive with single digit SOC at every charger probably also has much to do with the higher availability of Tesla chargers as compared to CCS. When you have options to keep going and the next charger is never more than 20-30 miles down the road, you can really optimize your trip.

  • @mockingbird187
    @mockingbird187 Місяць тому +1

    Will be interesting to retry this test once all these cars (and any new competitors in the field) come native with NACS.

  • @GraysonA
    @GraysonA Місяць тому +2

    I'd sacrifice some road trip speed for ride comfort, but it's amazing that a cheap car like this can do that.

  • @turg77
    @turg77 Місяць тому +2

    Would love a video on the cost analysis of all the charging, as well... Nothing was probably close to the M3.

  • @yannickdekeyzer4575
    @yannickdekeyzer4575 Місяць тому

    Hi @OutofSpecPodcast, old S85 owner here, that would love to also get a debrief with you and the old model S team. Thanks a million to include old Model S in your I-90 Surge. It was interesting to see the result, quite similar to what I estimate for our vacation road trips. In the end, we don't travel so far. Summer is between 1200km to 1600km (so 1000 miles max), which we always do in two days anyway. Winter is around 900km (550 miles) to the mountain. This distance is done in one day. I estimate it takes us about 2 more hours than a newer Tesla would do. That extra time is mostly spent eating, having a coffee or some shopping. So in the end, yes, the travel time is longer, but it's not crazy longer and turned into something nice and relaxing. And come to think of it, you only notice the slower SuC charging speed during those two vacations journeys. For the rest of the year, on AC charging, it's not an issue. So factoring that, and elements like great UI, planner, charging experience (consistent, not derating...), amazing car space and looks... I'd argue the old Model S is still very much a great value proposition. But I'm biased indeed. So I'd be very happy to hear your thoughts as well.

  • @larry4fire
    @larry4fire Місяць тому +3

    Can we get a list of the web channels all the people in the race are involved with?

    • @henry17403
      @henry17403 Місяць тому

      I think that info is in the credits at the end of the final episode of the Surge.

  • @stever656
    @stever656 Місяць тому +2

    What a car and team

  • @pauljuntunen3451
    @pauljuntunen3451 Місяць тому +1

    I think the Lucid Air Pure would've performed more like the Ioniq 6 & (maybe) the Model 3.

  • @The_Nitten
    @The_Nitten 24 дні тому

    I've noticed you guys talk about calibrating/breaking in new Teslas when they're fresh. Could you maybe make a video going over how to properly do this on a new Model 3? Should I just drive carefully the first couple of days? Any tips on breaking in the sound system? I'm getting a Model 3 LR AWD in a few weeks and I want to do everything I can to make it the best car it can be.

  • @MatthewBayard
    @MatthewBayard Місяць тому +1

    Come roadtrip from Perth to Cairns its only 53 hours / 4800kms.

  • @joshuakayla9790
    @joshuakayla9790 Місяць тому +1

    Love the good old cracked out man when dropping Tesla off. As a Washingtonian, "Welcome to Seattle" 🤣

    • @tazeat
      @tazeat Місяць тому

      Yep, f that place, we don't go there. Sad what they've done to Seattle. Pretty standard night behavior anymore.

  • @CraigMatsuura
    @CraigMatsuura Місяць тому +1

    I think you should have a scavanger hunt style road trip. You have to get off the highway drive to a location take a photo of the team with SOC and GPS location. Maybe this could also be a camp, cook and run to the next location and see who can do it the quickest. This way you are charging for what you need when taking a detour where there is no charging infrastructure. This would simulate visiting national parks. And see who returns home the quickest. Maybe like the race to vegas but it is the race to national parks. Using different EVs. Your early videos you would visit places in the M3 that you might think you could not. Like dragging on the salt flats.

  • @EhabAboud
    @EhabAboud Місяць тому +1

    Curious to see how you can pull this off in an equivalent route in Europe. Oslo to Bucharest or Porto to Berlin would be interesting

  • @Billyhime
    @Billyhime Місяць тому

    Do we have a link to the spreadsheet with all the data for charging stops?

  • @RobertDWF
    @RobertDWF 27 днів тому

    I saw a Pulsar on the road the other day and though, "Huh, should have been in the I-90 Surge."

  • @carolinebray82
    @carolinebray82 Місяць тому +2

    Yay team Tesla m3! Almost team food. 😂

  • @dsuresh10
    @dsuresh10 Місяць тому

    Great video! Curious how Model S Long Range would have fared instead of plaid!

  • @justinschultz4325
    @justinschultz4325 Місяць тому

    I hope the fellas enjoyed Culver's! It's a Wisconsin treasure.

  • @bretflinn2386
    @bretflinn2386 Місяць тому

    "The genesis of this trip...." Great pun Kyle.

  • @tazeat
    @tazeat Місяць тому +2

    How about Lucid not having to turn back at the earlier stop and not running out of juice... I think a perfectly executed lucid could have done it. They just didn't. And part of that certainly has to be the software just not giving good arrival %s.

  • @oscaritcorner
    @oscaritcorner Місяць тому +1

    Link to the spreadsheet

  • @BitJam
    @BitJam Місяць тому

    Thanks! I love getting all this backstory. BTW: take a look at Bio-Captain Kalle from Star Realms. Look familiar?

  • @danielpark9126
    @danielpark9126 Місяць тому

    Really great performance by the model 3 team. They are right the lucid should have been very close - especially as the lucid was both intentionally feathered and unintentionally slowed (missed speed limit signs). Also wonder if occupant weight made a difference (understandably putting taller folks in the larger car and smaller folks in the smaller cars). Regardless, commendable performance at these very different price points.

  • @tazeat
    @tazeat Місяць тому +2

    Nobody had bottles or portable urinals to at least get a decent piss at superchargers with no good bathrooms? I got kids, having those in the car is a must xD

    • @AndrewStilin
      @AndrewStilin Місяць тому

      I do have a pee bottle but have yet to use it! 😄

  • @gregstowell4732
    @gregstowell4732 Місяць тому

    Really, really wanted to see the Model S long range on this trip!

  • @henry17403
    @henry17403 Місяць тому

    Plans to share the spreadsheet at some point?

  • @Lorwildrose
    @Lorwildrose Місяць тому +1

    Hi from Canada,
    Montana is a bitch for charging off the route you took just like here in Alberta.
    Thanks for the videos!
    Here’s a laugh for you.
    Next time put a Ford MachE in the race too.
    Mine has gotten better at charging and seems a little better on energy use too.
    Ive been seeing as good as some of the middle of your pack cars for energy use and charging now.
    Ford is trying hard to make it better, it seems.

  • @ellichka08
    @ellichka08 Місяць тому

    Can we find the results anywhere?

  • @georgepelton5645
    @georgepelton5645 Місяць тому +1

    Efficiency is key to fast road trips. The Model 3 proved it here. If would be so cool if Mercedes would make their next generation EQS as efficient as their EQXX concept car, and match the Taycan's charging curve. 😎

    • @tobias7252
      @tobias7252 Місяць тому +2

      Mercedes CLA is coming. 2025

    • @georgepelton5645
      @georgepelton5645 Місяць тому +2

      @@tobias7252 Looking forward to the CLA, for sure! 😎

  • @barrd
    @barrd Місяць тому

    It feels so satisfying purchasing a new 2024 M3 RWD LR ….. I made the right choice 😊

  • @scottz45
    @scottz45 Місяць тому

    the only team that matters!

  • @philipmoriau599
    @philipmoriau599 Місяць тому +1

    LOl never watched the full lord of the rings but I did watch all these including this one......

  • @craigcritelli6327
    @craigcritelli6327 Місяць тому

    Schenectady and Verona, New York are out of order in your spreadsheet

  • @kevinmcneill1074
    @kevinmcneill1074 Місяць тому +2

    The totals were 759 kWh delivered costing $329 or $0.43/kWhr. That didn't include the initial 100% charge. Adding that 82 Kwhr in would add $35. So $364 to go 3100 miles. Assuming $3 gal for gas you would pay the same for a gas car that gets about 26 mpg. I am sure the Model 3 was the lowest cost by a lot considering the supercharger use and its higher efficiency.

    • @shou635
      @shou635 Місяць тому +1

      And typically most people would charge at home for the initial charge.

  • @zachlafond2652
    @zachlafond2652 Місяць тому +1

    Sounds like Tesla needs to start investing in more high speed charging stations along these interstate stretches.

  • @mikea.2348
    @mikea.2348 Місяць тому +1

    The Lucid team was mismanaged from the beginning.

  • @johankarlsson6
    @johankarlsson6 28 днів тому

    Next time I want Model Y with Blade battery. Or similar if it’s not sold in US.

  • @radgeh5924
    @radgeh5924 Місяць тому +1

    OK ok, now I see some low charging speeds and a team on their A game! Put this team in the Lucid and they get 2nd?

  • @johnlabernik4599
    @johnlabernik4599 Місяць тому

    Next race idea: the 2 best selling EV sedans, suvs, and trucks against the best selling gas and hybrid sedan, suv, and truck. 12 total vehicles. Test the cars people are actually buying.

  • @lemongavine
    @lemongavine Місяць тому

    I was probably one of the “weird comments” Kyle is talking about. I said the gas car could have lost its lead because it might have needed to get an oil change en route, lol

  • @dandaigle4546
    @dandaigle4546 Місяць тому +1

    low charge curve equates to battery longevity equals to keeping your vehicle for a long long time, absolutely loved these 4 podcats, thank you

  • @Selene_M3
    @Selene_M3 26 днів тому

    Bought the RWD LFP 3 and then they come out with the RWD LR 3 with 363 😮

  • @JosephHawkins
    @JosephHawkins Місяць тому +2

    What happened to Francie ?? I miss her

    • @KP-xi4bj
      @KP-xi4bj Місяць тому

      She's still at the charging station with her VinFast VF8.

  • @canyonk652
    @canyonk652 Місяць тому

    Next time start the gas car hours behind the ev cars, would be exciting to see it catch up to the rest instead of just pulling away from them. Would keep them in race mode as well.

  • @rcmiller510
    @rcmiller510 Місяць тому

    I propose a S&M race across the country in Chevy Bolts.

  • @johankarlsson6
    @johankarlsson6 28 днів тому

    In Europe all cars would compete on the same ccs network. Not every car can do Tesla SuC. But Tesla and all the others can race on Ionity 350 kW chargers.
    Or some similar. With the sparcity of high powered chargers in the Plains the Taycan got too much of an advantage whereas the rest of the ccs pack had to share poorer or derated chargers from EA.

  • @CrIMeFiBeR
    @CrIMeFiBeR Місяць тому +1

    I only missed the model3 lfp standard range

  • @nicholaskolnik6458
    @nicholaskolnik6458 Місяць тому

    Awesome job Jordan on the editing! I loved the drone shot at the end!
    Kyle said in the wrap up of the race that he wasn't convinced with the 800V charging. Just imagine the Model 3 efficiency and range with the Porsche or Ioniq 5 charging speeds! It probably would have beaten the Porsche.

  • @QILE-p2s
    @QILE-p2s Місяць тому

    I sounds like Tesla needs to do a better job on the availability status of their supercharging network.

  • @rashad123us
    @rashad123us Місяць тому +1

    *I'm surprised that Model S did so poorly.*

  • @rp9674
    @rp9674 Місяць тому +7

    The stench of musk

    • @shou635
      @shou635 Місяць тому +1

      Only weak simpletons think like that.

    • @KP-xi4bj
      @KP-xi4bj Місяць тому +1

      Keep coping.

  • @derylhunt4494
    @derylhunt4494 Місяць тому

    Where is Matt?

  • @lahipster3172
    @lahipster3172 Місяць тому

    Out of spec Nerds

    • @shou635
      @shou635 Місяць тому

      Nerds make your life better. And rule the world.

  • @johankarlsson6
    @johankarlsson6 28 днів тому

    If Superchargers were open to all car makes than I think Lucid and Ioniq 6 would have beaten all Teslas. Lucid had the best range before the mountain pass but went too fast over the elevation and lost efficiency.

  • @ErvinKortsLaur
    @ErvinKortsLaur Місяць тому +1

    ✌️

  • @joecushman6030
    @joecushman6030 Місяць тому

    So my take away from this whole thing is not range, not charging speed but how good is the buffet. If you are enjoying life a few minutes is nothing.

  •  Місяць тому

    love the new model 3 over the previous version..I want one..

  • @MatthewBayard
    @MatthewBayard Місяць тому

    I have a 2022 Model 3 SR RWD and it still rips on a long road tip. 2 stops to get from Melbourne to Adelaide here in Australia. Not much slower than a Model 3 LR tbh.

    • @KP-xi4bj
      @KP-xi4bj Місяць тому

      It would be slower if you get snow. Slower charging in the cold, slower traction in the snow, etc.

    • @MatthewBayard
      @MatthewBayard Місяць тому

      @KP-xi4bj not much snow in Adelaide, Australia 🦘

    • @KP-xi4bj
      @KP-xi4bj Місяць тому

      @@MatthewBayard Snow in the winter in Canada. That's where the AWD (Long Range) Model 3 shines.

  • @epcalderhead
    @epcalderhead Місяць тому

    Still could understand the name of the app. 🤣

    • @kng128
      @kng128 Місяць тому

      The tracking app? Life360.

  • @scottandersen9969
    @scottandersen9969 20 днів тому

    Which had the lowest cost of charging

  • @Lewis_Standing
    @Lewis_Standing Місяць тому +2

    No one volunteered in a leaf?

    • @weyrleaderkev
      @weyrleaderkev Місяць тому +1

      Could a Leaf beat the Old Tesla Model S?

    • @l10industries
      @l10industries Місяць тому +2

      Not going to lie I would totally watch another one of these with the worst charging cars. Leaf, Bolt, Mach-e... All the ones you don't want to be behind at the charging station.

    • @Billyhime
      @Billyhime Місяць тому +1

      @@weyrleaderkev lol unfortunately not. Especially if its one of the 2014 models of Leaf

  • @trpblr
    @trpblr Місяць тому

    One key takeaway I have from this that hasn't been mentioned yet, is that the fact that there were 3-4 CCS cars coming into the same charging stations, and in a few instances, they were for sure affecting the charging performance for each other. I can recall at least 2-3 times that someone was charging, the other car pulled in and all the sudden the first car was derated. So, I think it is important to note that you don't have nearly as much of this issue at Tesla stations, yes you need to pay attention at V2 stations, but if I recall correctly derating at V3 stations is way less of an issue.

  • @teitpoulsen7183
    @teitpoulsen7183 Місяць тому

    Agree the model 3 is the best car value in the world. Have the new 2024 model 3 for my fiancée and a model S Plaid for myself. The new 3 is so well built, driving dynamics and comfort superb and its extremely efficient. Plaid now is just for the performance experience. For everyday use the base model 3 is actually the better choice. Amazing value!

  • @StuartFriedman8888
    @StuartFriedman8888 Місяць тому

    Great project, unfortunately spoiled by the Tesla excusing commentary; at every tunr when the Tesla showed with understandable issues (route planning, cameras disabled, V2 availabilty) it is dismissed while the Ioniq's (this nav is atrocious) are amplified. Too bad as the site and its sister's have been invaluable to me as I wade into the EV market but enough is enough, I'll miss you!

  • @Banmuyuan
    @Banmuyuan Місяць тому

    No Chinese EVs😂