Had a friend make a venom character. He's just pretty much straight hexblade, but rather than a weapon we have it be tattoos. His patron is the soul of a dead ancient shadow dragon that lives on him in the form of the tattoo. He gains powers and levels by absorbing treasure into his tattoos, joining them to his body, thus replenishing his patron's hoard.
@@Kugrox All his invocations are the tattoo growing to do stuff. Mage armor is the suit, eldritch sight makes a mask and his eyes glow as they detect magic etc. I was just kinda explicating about the dragon hoard thing.
@@Kugrox "A symbiotic entity gives a character special abilities by bonding themselves to their body." Who am I talking about, Kugrox? Am I talking about Ray Kane's friend's PC, or am I talking about Venom? You're focusing a little too hard on the "consumes treasures" aspect of the character. It could just as easily have been a possessing ghost that eats the souls of the things you kill to grow stronger, or even a Symbiotic entity evolving to combat new threats.
@@statikksheev4390 He uses the stats for glaive for his attacks with melee. The best part is having the patron live on him. The patron wants to try to find a better host as well, so he needs to prove to the patron not to leave him. The patron can also cast high lvl spells at the cost of years off his host's life. Such a fun patron. Sorry to ramble
I agree, but i assume that that is outside of the restriction for those videos. edit: As i watched more of his videos id say yep, super out of scope. He aims for basically adventurer league legal
Funnily enough, reading over the Blackrazor sentient weapon, it's basically Venom. It's a +3 greatsword, usually CN, brutish, domineering, needs to be fed souls regularly, and can potentially take control of the wielder. Though it does throw you some pretty sweet benefits. Honestly, I'd totally be the Venom of the party wielding the Blackrazor, teaching it to only eat the souls of bad people XD *WE* are Blackrazor.
a easier build to make for this would have just been to make a full Circle of the Spore druid, maybe dipping into warlock a bit if you really wanted to make it something more alien, but spore druids make a way better Venom then this build. for those who dont know, Spore Druids have a Symbiotic relationship with their spores, and they can exchange their wild shape for a form where their spores can create a protective barrier that gives them a ton of temp hp, you could flavor that to be the venom 'suit'. Druids also get the cantrip "Primal Savagery" which is a Bite or Claw attack that does a ton of acid damage at later levels, seeing as venom's attacks are mostly strong bites and claw attacks, that seems perfect. If you wanted to go fully with the spiderweb root, then get the Cloak of the Arachnid or whatever its called. If you want to play as Venom, just go with a spore druid, pretty sure that the creators of the subclass had things like Venom in mind when making it from how close it actualy gets to just being venom.
To take it even further... Simic Hybrid. You can climb walls right off the bat and at lvl five you get a pair of tentacles for melee attacks. (Fun fact. It doesn't say they can't be used to climb leaving your arms free to attack)
Dude. With Venom being my favorite comic book character of all time. I adore this build. I love it so much im going to use it in my upcoming D&D campaign ^_^ im gonna twist it from great old one to a dragon patron that focuses on elemental magic. Mage armor being a symbiotic scale mail that envelopes the character and so on. I can't wait, and thank you for amazing content as always :)
How about the Undying patron, as by level 6, you automatically heal up to 13 hit points with a single death saving throw success, meaning, you no longer need 3 successes to not die, you instead, only need 1, and are immediately back in the fight. Which is perfect for a symbiote since he can keep the host alive through pretty much anything. Ill be building my Venom to be more of an immortal tank type character, more focus on pressure and survivability
Trade out Great Old One for The Formless One; it literally says, verbatim, “You form a symbiotic relationship with your patron, by integrating a portion of your patron's slimy body within you, which in turn grants you supernatural power that you now wield”
Another, though less optimal, race to play as venom is the Dhampir lineage. The book mentions something like a parasite giving you your abilities, the lineage also basically gains spider climb for free, dark vision, and 3+ to your stats. You don’t get that feat though- is a nice way to dodge needing the spider climb spell so you don’t have to drain your precious spell slots, Dhampirs are also generally speedier at 35ft to start so that’s a nice little touch
I find the principle of this style build quite fascinating, where all the spells and abilities learned are extensions of one core "superpower." I wish more players would plan their characters out like that.
I took the Mystic class and flavored everything to be Psionic Butterflies (Based on Psylocke from the X-Men) I also made an Artificer Warforged, and flavored all the spells and tech based abilities as ki attacks and built my character to be an Android from Dragonball Z. Basically the stats reflect that of a warforged and the abilities reflect that of an artificer, but he APPEARS to just be a normal teenage dude, because he's a highly sophisticated android. I know some people will say how can an android exist in a world without future tech and the answer is permanent polymorph like any dragon would have, or magic, or who cares its for fun. Basically just flavor everything you do, don't change statistics, just describe everything how you want. For example he doesn't have a cudgel but I gave him one for weapon damage purposes, flavoring that his normal hand attack deals the damage of a cudgel, this works because it doesnt change any game mechanics, and it makes him sound even more terrifying since he just looks like a normal kid, who happens to hit like a truck. The only downside is, if someone disarms your "Cudgel", they are actually cutting off your hand. Luckily, you're an android, and it just reattaches. And then finally I created a Death Knight by making a wizard from the necromancy school, and stocking him up on Strength to wear platemail, he does less spell damage in favor of hard hitting melee attacks, lacks hit poitns because he's a wizard so high constitution was required to balance him out, and of course his army of the undead makes him a death knight. 16d6 at level 4, you can't go wrong.
I’ve done something similar where I took a shadow monk and, well, I took the name literally. The whole character’s gimick was that he could control shadows (as well as his own body, as he himself was a shadow golem/construct of sorts). So I reflavored all the monk abilities into him just manipulating shadows in some way. That just covered class though-the actual power is supposed to come from the race, I’m just having trouble balancing said homebrewed race.
I did that with a character once. He was a sorcerer, but his only power was a slow build up of electric charge that he would utilize for his spells. Every spell he had could be justified through the use of discharged electricity.
For cantrips, I would probably go for a reflavored Lightning Lure. Switch it to bludgeoning instead of lightning damage, and its suddenly gooey tendrils grabbing and pulling a target in for a squeeze.
I know you're super busy, Tulok, and I greatly appreciate all the hard work you do! Since some things on this video are outdated (looking at you, Brute subclass), and with Carnage now out, I'd love to see you revamp this build, or maybe do a Carnage one. Thank you again for everything you do!
Damn.. that list .. it's hard to pick your favourite man hahahh. Congrats on this build btw, you're like a Guru now.. i check this videos whenever i wanna do something similar to a character!
My Venom is 6 level Beast Barbarian and 14 Level Spores Druid. It gave you power like a Venom who attack with a claw, it can climbing, jumping, and absorb a lot of attacks while using rage and spores symbiote. The downfall is that it can't cast spells while raging. Although you can alternate all the vines or whip spell into more gooey things rather than a plant, like a thorn whip, just like a web. Also, primal savagery works well on the basic attacks.
Although Evard’s Black Tentacles feels very much like a Warlock Spell (and I would personally allow it) it’s unfortunately a Wizard only spell (since a Wizard, Evard, made it up, unlike Hadar which is a cosmic entity).
I feel like the Dhampir race could work really well. Quote the Dhampir racial traits: “Dhampir Origins: 1. You are the reincarnation of an ancestor who was a vampiric tyrant. 2. Your pact with a predatory deity, fiend, fey, or spirit causes you to share their hunger. 3. You survived being attacked by a vampire but were forever changed. 4. **A parasite lives inside you. You indulge its hunger.** “ “Darkvision. You can see in dim light within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light and in darkness as if it were dim light. You discern colors in that darkness as shades of gray.” “Spider Climb. You have a climbing speed equal to your walking speed. In addition, at 3rd level, you can move up, down, and across vertical surfaces and upside down along ceilings, while leaving your hands free.” “Vampiric Bite. Your fanged bite is a natural weapon, which counts as a simple melee weapon with which you are proficient. You add your Constitution modifier, instead of your Strength modifier, to the attack and damage rolls when you attack with this bite. It deals 1d4 piercing damage on a hit. While you are missing half or more of your hit points, you have advantage on attack rolls you make with this bite.”
Other good invocations: One with the Shadows (invisibility in dim light / darkness), devil’s sight (Darkvision), cloak of flies (you literally surround yourself with an aura of ‘flies’ read: goo that gives you advantage to intimidation and enemies in the aura take poison damage. Lasts until you dismiss it
Should check out the Mystic class, it has enough versatility options to pretty much make any character. Especially the immortal verson which can give you base armor up to 20 if you're unarmored, start at a higher level for some free magic items and we'll take some that boost our AC for up to 23 unarmored AC. (bracers of protection, cloak of protection, there was another i forget what its called.)
another interesting take on venom could be barbarian wouldn't be able to do as much goo with magic but if you want to focus on brutal melee combat it could be interesting, your "rage" could be the symbiote transformation. could also still multiclass into warlock for some of those cool abilities including summoning a weapon.
Tulok, did you say that warlocks only have two spell slots per day? They recharge on a short rest, so that two should be a six. Now that is out of the way, I can continue feeding the algorithm by saying how much I like this build. I like it a lot. "G.O.O. Warlock" made me chuckle and I didn't stop until the video ended. All those puns were fun. Reflavoring the Armor of Shadows as the "Venom" form and the Eldritch Blast as tendrils is model flavoring; great editing and scripting there.
I always thought the easiest way to play a Venom Symbiote user is by having a Warlock that summons an Eidolon which can be any shape of the Summoner's choosing, which I suppose could include Goo. And at 14th level you can assume the form of your Eidolon granting you the all the same abilities.
Alternative build proposal, Take Simic Hybrid as your race of choice, taking the Nimble Climber feature, then at 5th level get the grappling appendage build Venom as a berserker barbarian, treating the exhaustion as venom exhausting Eddie's energy you get unarmored defense, reckless attack, danger sense (spidey sense) eventually you'll get persistent rage, which could be interpreted as Eddie training his body to handle stress Maybe multiclass into warlock for arms of hadar if you really want AOE pros- less M.A.D, extra strong, versatile climbing, extra durable, mobility options cons- exhaustion is a bitch, no aoe, no spells
Episode 59 of the Fire Emblem stats: Eddie Brock. Venom's weapon skills are very similar to Spidey's. He's a great brawler and archer (as the best equivalent to webs). Unlike Peter, he has a strength in heavy armor since the symbiote suit is surprisingly durable. He's bad at authority because he works solo most of the time. Venom is fast and strong but he has weak resistance and he's not a charming guy to be around.
I went with Hexblade for more of the codependent. And why would he need to telepathically communicate with the party? And Magical Initiate (druid) for certain spells that warlocks can't get (Primal Savagery). And some levels of sorcerer (shadow) for other spells (Web and Alter Self) and the early features seem to fit (reflavored descriptions)
I'll admit that I don't know too much about Venom (not one of my favorite characters) but the symbiote seems to aggravate people's anger issues so maybe Barbarian instead of Fighter?
My own take on the character uses the Simic Hybrid for wall crawling an a pair of grappling appendages. Started monk for two levels and then went three levels of spore druid. Funnily enough, the jump spell works along with the Monk's step of the wind ability multiplying your jump distance by six. My Venom has twelve strength at level five so that's a seventy foot plus horizontal jump. Vine Whip allows Venom to pull enemies to him and if he up on a wall you can yank them ten feet in the air before letting them fall on their butts. Primal Savagery fits the aesthetic as well though most of your attacks will be coming from the grappling appendages. From there you can take druid to four for an ASI and then keep bumping that monk till you get extra attacks.
Well I really think that the Order of the Lycan Blood Hunter can be a better combo, just for the possibility to transform and getting big claw also with the flaw of : Bloodlust (Special) If you begin your turn with 14 or fewer hit points, you must make a DC 8 WIS saving throw or else move directly towards the nearest creature to you and use the Attack action against that creature, determining targets randomly if there is more than one possible target. If you are unable to concentrate, you automatically fail this saving throw. You can become out-of-control and attack allies without thinking of that, good for role-play. With the : Blood Curse of the Eyeless When a creature you can see within 30 feet of you makes an attack roll, you can use your reaction to roll one hemocraft die and subtract the number rolled from the creature’s attack roll. You can choose to use this feature after the creature’s roll, but before the DM determines whether the attack roll succeeds. The creature is immune if it is immune to blindness. You can ''blind'' target with eye-webbing so it's more likely to be in the style of the spider side that Venom learn how to act and battle. also that just level 3, others level give speed, jumping, (not swimming sadly), and of course more attack and buff of the stats... And create Fear effect.
If you're reading this now, a path of the beast barbarian fits so much better. Transformation? check. Natural weapons? check. Climbing on walls and ceilings? check. Super angry? check. Alien strength? check. Unarmored defense? check.
Wouldn't Barbarian make more sense than fighter for Venom? Or is it the lack of a good Totemic Tradition? I figure given you're already going for a Spider adaption it might be better to go Totem Barbarian. Yes you can't cast spells, but when he gets up close and personal Venom rarely uses his webs. Taking the Bear totem first also mitigates your AC issues.
I was thinking about making this kind of character but change venom into a shadow-shadow demon, and change Eddie into a kid, trade weakness to fire/sound into weakness to radiant damage and you have what I call Shadow Boy
Could start off as fighter then multiclass into warlock, then flavor the platemail as just being part of your symbiotic body, IE, your symbiote created this armor for you. And finally, keep in mind this build is of course, just a draft. If you, for example, chose to roll stats, its very likely you'd have your low dump stats the same, but even higher physical stats. Meaning you wouldn't necessarily need to take ability score improvements, and instead, could take feats to either super power your symbiote, or, use them to boost your armor proficiencies if you didnt start as a fighter. Heres the question i've been debating with. I know I want to make a symbiote type character. But do I want to make a SYMBIOTE or a man WITH a symbiote...Meaning do I want to have to jump from host to host when one dies. Could be some very interesting game play there.
I would probably go barbarian and try to get as many of the other abilities as non magically as I could. Definitely love the grasp of hadar for eldritch blast though and so many spells are good at mimicking Venom’s tendrils
*Venom* A variant human fighter-warlock infamously in the moral grey area, rumored to be an otherwise-normal human bonded with a sentient suit of alien ooze.
A simic hybrid would work better for this. You get two mutations on your body at 1st and at 5th lvl. Nimble climber and Grappling appendages would work for Venom
Use Pact of the Host from Morgrave Miscellany instead, works much better and has Invocations to improve the experiance. Pact of the Host pretty much IS a Symbiote.
Now you could do this as a hexblade, focus more on charasma and a little less strength. I think that would also make it feel more like it's the symbiote's strength and not the host's
I'm joining a campaign that allows homebrew stuff, so I also chose a Venom inspired character but used the Soul Binder class, bonded to an Aberration companion. Gave me tentacles and basically merged with my body like a Symbiote. You can get it here: www.gmbinder.com/share/-LY7agXq01TYt_qG2nUb
Have ypu heard of the jublexian race, basically a race of slimes, i feel like this should be remade with jublexians. Fits more with playing as venom and not just a venom host.
I think it would be better as a druid, different animals for different thing, a mess of black tenticles and liquid as dark as ink in the shape of a dire wolf would scare some bandits, or be a Goopy werewolf
Or just play the Synthesist Summoner from Pathfinder. Preferably the chained version because unlike other cases the unchained version is a nerf because one particularly salty creator of Pathfinder has a personal vendetta against this class and wants to prevent as many as he can from having fun with it. (Which is odd because it's not really 'op' in that ninth level casters like wizards, witches, arcanists, clerics, druids, etc. are still stronger.)
I dont have a set list, I'm thinking of doing a homebrew series and I think that might work better as a monster, so I'll add that to my potential list.
they are virtually the same character, except with more Barbarian Rage for carnage, and more focus on gooey weapons, carnage cares less about mobility and more about immortality as he can regenerate better than venom.
Unarmored defense, high movement speed, astral arms represents tendrils... yeah, I'd say that class has the "meat" of the build down. Keep a couple levels of warlock for the essential spider-climb, cosmetic shapeshifting and maybe some more slime spells and you'd have a pretty solid Venom build.
Not every campaign allows short rests, so take this video as just a rough draft, when you build your final venom character, it will inevitably be different. For example I wont be focusing on Charisma, instead taking Dexterity for armor, and if you roll stats, which, for a character thats supposed to be overly powerful like Venom, you might as well, you're pretty much guaranteed to get a host of powerful attributes that matter, and can then forego future ability score improvments in favor of of feats.
Correct me if im wrong, but doesn't the ability score improvement relates to the level of the character and not the level of the class? I saw that you added Ability Score every two levels at some point. Im not pissing on your build I just wanna understand the rule better
Checking on it, some classes appear to gain Ability Scores more often, notably the Fighter. I think it's sort of a generic buff for classes that are less complicated or don't get as technical.
“Have you heard of Eldritch Blast?” That about killed me.
It's so good though... everytime I use it I'm like "oof, I'm using eldritch blast again" but invocations just make it whatever I need it to be.
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 I've been playing D&D for a little under a year, and I've played a total of 4 warlocks.
You should make doctor faciliac as a D&D character that would be sick
Had a friend make a venom character. He's just pretty much straight hexblade, but rather than a weapon we have it be tattoos. His patron is the soul of a dead ancient shadow dragon that lives on him in the form of the tattoo. He gains powers and levels by absorbing treasure into his tattoos, joining them to his body, thus replenishing his patron's hoard.
In what way is that anything Venom? Venom doesn't eat chairs to gain power lol.
@@Kugrox All his invocations are the tattoo growing to do stuff. Mage armor is the suit, eldritch sight makes a mask and his eyes glow as they detect magic etc.
I was just kinda explicating about the dragon hoard thing.
@@Kugrox "A symbiotic entity gives a character special abilities by bonding themselves to their body."
Who am I talking about, Kugrox? Am I talking about Ray Kane's friend's PC, or am I talking about Venom?
You're focusing a little too hard on the "consumes treasures" aspect of the character. It could just as easily have been a possessing ghost that eats the souls of the things you kill to grow stronger, or even a Symbiotic entity evolving to combat new threats.
How did he attack? Did he do anything melee at all? This is a really cool idea
@@statikksheev4390 He uses the stats for glaive for his attacks with melee. The best part is having the patron live on him. The patron wants to try to find a better host as well, so he needs to prove to the patron not to leave him. The patron can also cast high lvl spells at the cost of years off his host's life. Such a fun patron. Sorry to ramble
how to play venom in 5e D&D... cast charm monster on a mimmic and wear it as a suit of armor...
Me, a writer: *scribbling furiously*
Damn that’s true imma be talking to my DM
God help you if it Nat 20s the Wis check while you wear it.
The mimic doesn't enhance a person its attached to....
“So don’t burn all your bridges unless you want that kind of carnage”
...boi, did you just-
I think he did
Yes... he went there. 😂
TBH I feel a symbiote works better as a sentient magic item.
I agree, but i assume that that is outside of the restriction for those videos.
edit: As i watched more of his videos id say yep, super out of scope. He aims for basically adventurer league legal
It's a clothing mimic with a symbiotic relationship.
ebberon has symbiotes
Funnily enough, reading over the Blackrazor sentient weapon, it's basically Venom. It's a +3 greatsword, usually CN, brutish, domineering, needs to be fed souls regularly, and can potentially take control of the wielder. Though it does throw you some pretty sweet benefits. Honestly, I'd totally be the Venom of the party wielding the Blackrazor, teaching it to only eat the souls of bad people XD
*WE* are Blackrazor.
Sentient kyrzin's ooze
a easier build to make for this would have just been to make a full Circle of the Spore druid, maybe dipping into warlock a bit if you really wanted to make it something more alien, but spore druids make a way better Venom then this build. for those who dont know, Spore Druids have a Symbiotic relationship with their spores, and they can exchange their wild shape for a form where their spores can create a protective barrier that gives them a ton of temp hp, you could flavor that to be the venom 'suit'. Druids also get the cantrip "Primal Savagery" which is a Bite or Claw attack that does a ton of acid damage at later levels, seeing as venom's attacks are mostly strong bites and claw attacks, that seems perfect. If you wanted to go fully with the spiderweb root, then get the Cloak of the Arachnid or whatever its called.
If you want to play as Venom, just go with a spore druid, pretty sure that the creators of the subclass had things like Venom in mind when making it from how close it actualy gets to just being venom.
Glad someone posted this! Spore Druids can ever raise those freaky zombie things like Venom's occasional "children"
Sadly you don’t get that extra 1d6 to primal savagery
To take it even further... Simic Hybrid. You can climb walls right off the bat and at lvl five you get a pair of tentacles for melee attacks. (Fun fact. It doesn't say they can't be used to climb leaving your arms free to attack)
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I feel we’ve all been very patient with you…
“So don’t burn your bridges, unless you want that kind of Carnage.” I see what you did there.
Whoa, what's this Eldritch blast stuff? Is that new???
I think its part of DLC pact 2. That's a bad joke.
Dude. With Venom being my favorite comic book character of all time. I adore this build. I love it so much im going to use it in my upcoming D&D campaign ^_^ im gonna twist it from great old one to a dragon patron that focuses on elemental magic. Mage armor being a symbiotic scale mail that envelopes the character and so on. I can't wait, and thank you for amazing content as always :)
That sounds amazing, love the dragon twist!
How about the Undying patron, as by level 6, you automatically heal up to 13 hit points with a single death saving throw success, meaning, you no longer need 3 successes to not die, you instead, only need 1, and are immediately back in the fight. Which is perfect for a symbiote since he can keep the host alive through pretty much anything. Ill be building my Venom to be more of an immortal tank type character, more focus on pressure and survivability
So how did the build go? I know it's 2 years removed from when you said you were going to do this but I'm curious if it worked out for you.
Trade out Great Old One for The Formless One; it literally says, verbatim, “You form a symbiotic relationship with your patron, by integrating a portion of your patron's slimy body within you, which in turn grants you supernatural power that you now wield”
Is that UA
@@snazzyfeathers D&D Wiki
@@snazzyfeathers officially it now exist in Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything, but at the time of the video it wasn’t around yet I believe.
Another, though less optimal, race to play as venom is the Dhampir lineage. The book mentions something like a parasite giving you your abilities, the lineage also basically gains spider climb for free, dark vision, and 3+ to your stats. You don’t get that feat though- is a nice way to dodge needing the spider climb spell so you don’t have to drain your precious spell slots, Dhampirs are also generally speedier at 35ft to start so that’s a nice little touch
I find the principle of this style build quite fascinating, where all the spells and abilities learned are extensions of one core "superpower." I wish more players would plan their characters out like that.
I took the Mystic class and flavored everything to be Psionic Butterflies (Based on Psylocke from the X-Men)
I also made an Artificer Warforged, and flavored all the spells and tech based abilities as ki attacks and built my character to be an Android from Dragonball Z. Basically the stats reflect that of a warforged and the abilities reflect that of an artificer, but he APPEARS to just be a normal teenage dude, because he's a highly sophisticated android. I know some people will say how can an android exist in a world without future tech and the answer is permanent polymorph like any dragon would have, or magic, or who cares its for fun. Basically just flavor everything you do, don't change statistics, just describe everything how you want. For example he doesn't have a cudgel but I gave him one for weapon damage purposes, flavoring that his normal hand attack deals the damage of a cudgel, this works because it doesnt change any game mechanics, and it makes him sound even more terrifying since he just looks like a normal kid, who happens to hit like a truck. The only downside is, if someone disarms your "Cudgel", they are actually cutting off your hand. Luckily, you're an android, and it just reattaches.
And then finally I created a Death Knight by making a wizard from the necromancy school, and stocking him up on Strength to wear platemail, he does less spell damage in favor of hard hitting melee attacks, lacks hit poitns because he's a wizard so high constitution was required to balance him out, and of course his army of the undead makes him a death knight. 16d6 at level 4, you can't go wrong.
I’ve done something similar where I took a shadow monk and, well, I took the name literally. The whole character’s gimick was that he could control shadows (as well as his own body, as he himself was a shadow golem/construct of sorts). So I reflavored all the monk abilities into him just manipulating shadows in some way. That just covered class though-the actual power is supposed to come from the race, I’m just having trouble balancing said homebrewed race.
I did that with a character once. He was a sorcerer, but his only power was a slow build up of electric charge that he would utilize for his spells. Every spell he had could be justified through the use of discharged electricity.
Between you making characters into dnd and brawl fan making characters into smash, yall are really helping my creativity
Keep it up, tulok!
"You can grab two cantrips" as Venom just takes two flak-armored gunmen into orbit.
Richard Gustafson they were the cantrips grabbed. Probably True Strike.
Does this mean having one of these for Alex Mercer from '[Prototype]' would be redundant?
The blood hunters order of the lycan works well if you flavor the transformation as a symbiote
That Carnage joke was under appreciated.
For cantrips, I would probably go for a reflavored Lightning Lure. Switch it to bludgeoning instead of lightning damage, and its suddenly gooey tendrils grabbing and pulling a target in for a squeeze.
7:23 but warlocks recover spell slots with a short rest
True, but oftentimes short rests are glossed over.
A nice plus to dungeon delving but on campaign not the best thing to rely on
He tends to skip over short rests all the time.
Being honest I don’t know if he’s aware that short rests are a thing. I can’t remember him bringing them up once.
I know you're super busy, Tulok, and I greatly appreciate all the hard work you do! Since some things on this video are outdated (looking at you, Brute subclass), and with Carnage now out, I'd love to see you revamp this build, or maybe do a Carnage one. Thank you again for everything you do!
The new astral soul monk fits this concept like a glove...
I'm surprised you skimped on Arms of Hadar at 1st level. That's one of the most Venomy spells.
Wait until tulok figures out natural weapons can be conjured by Pact of the Blade because they are technically weapons so you can summon claws.
Damn.. that list .. it's hard to pick your favourite man hahahh. Congrats on this build btw, you're like a Guru now.. i check this videos whenever i wanna do something similar to a character!
Oh these last 5 have all been bangers. Generally I can pick one, but I abstained. It's like picking a favorite child.
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 and there's no dumb one to lie they have potential(? .. they all have it hahaha
My Venom is 6 level Beast Barbarian and 14 Level Spores Druid. It gave you power like a Venom who attack with a claw, it can climbing, jumping, and absorb a lot of attacks while using rage and spores symbiote. The downfall is that it can't cast spells while raging. Although you can alternate all the vines or whip spell into more gooey things rather than a plant, like a thorn whip, just like a web. Also, primal savagery works well on the basic attacks.
Although Evard’s Black Tentacles feels very much like a Warlock Spell (and I would personally allow it) it’s unfortunately a Wizard only spell (since a Wizard, Evard, made it up, unlike Hadar which is a cosmic entity).
You get it from the GOO! It's on their list I believe.
Tulok the Barbrarian Ah! Makes perfect sense, forgot to check there. Apologies!
I feel like the Dhampir race could work really well. Quote the Dhampir racial traits:
“Dhampir Origins:
1. You are the reincarnation of an ancestor who was a vampiric tyrant.
2. Your pact with a predatory deity, fiend, fey, or spirit causes you to share their hunger.
3. You survived being attacked by a vampire but were forever changed.
4. **A parasite lives inside you. You indulge its hunger.** “
“Darkvision. You can see in dim light within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light and in darkness as if it were dim light. You discern colors in that darkness as shades of gray.”
“Spider Climb. You have a climbing speed equal to your walking speed. In addition, at 3rd level, you can move up, down, and across vertical surfaces and upside down along ceilings, while leaving your hands free.”
“Vampiric Bite. Your fanged bite is a natural weapon, which counts as a simple melee weapon with which you are proficient. You add your Constitution modifier, instead of your Strength modifier, to the attack and damage rolls when you attack with this bite. It deals 1d4 piercing damage on a hit. While you are missing half or more of your hit points, you have advantage on attack rolls you make with this bite.”
I think this my favorite musical intro so far.
Other good invocations: One with the Shadows (invisibility in dim light / darkness), devil’s sight (Darkvision), cloak of flies (you literally surround yourself with an aura of ‘flies’ read: goo that gives you advantage to intimidation and enemies in the aura take poison damage. Lasts until you dismiss it
Should check out the Mystic class, it has enough versatility options to pretty much make any character. Especially the immortal verson which can give you base armor up to 20 if you're unarmored, start at a higher level for some free magic items and we'll take some that boost our AC for up to 23 unarmored AC. (bracers of protection, cloak of protection, there was another i forget what its called.)
Kugrox mystic is UA, it’d be disallowed in the majority of games
another interesting take on venom could be barbarian
wouldn't be able to do as much goo with magic but if you want to focus on brutal melee combat it could be interesting, your "rage" could be the symbiote transformation. could also still multiclass into warlock for some of those cool abilities including summoning a weapon.
Tulok, did you say that warlocks only have two spell slots per day? They recharge on a short rest, so that two should be a six.
Now that is out of the way, I can continue feeding the algorithm by saying how much I like this build.
I like it a lot. "G.O.O. Warlock" made me chuckle and I didn't stop until the video ended. All those puns were fun. Reflavoring the Armor of Shadows as the "Venom" form and the Eldritch Blast as tendrils is model flavoring; great editing and scripting there.
Amazing build like always
Mixing Warlock and Fighter is just like a customization buffet. You can do pretty much whatever you want with feats and invocations.
I always thought the easiest way to play a Venom Symbiote user is by having a Warlock that summons an Eidolon which can be any shape of the Summoner's choosing, which I suppose could include Goo. And at 14th level you can assume the form of your Eidolon granting you the all the same abilities.
Considering there is a God of Symbiotes now, having Venom be a warlock makes so much sense.
Alternative build proposal, Take Simic Hybrid as your race of choice, taking the Nimble Climber feature, then at 5th level get the grappling appendage
build Venom as a berserker barbarian, treating the exhaustion as venom exhausting Eddie's energy
you get unarmored defense, reckless attack, danger sense (spidey sense)
eventually you'll get persistent rage, which could be interpreted as Eddie training his body to handle stress
Maybe multiclass into warlock for arms of hadar if you really want AOE
pros- less M.A.D, extra strong, versatile climbing, extra durable, mobility options
cons- exhaustion is a bitch, no aoe, no spells
Episode 59 of the Fire Emblem stats: Eddie Brock.
Venom's weapon skills are very similar to Spidey's. He's a great brawler and archer (as the best equivalent to webs). Unlike Peter, he has a strength in heavy armor since the symbiote suit is surprisingly durable. He's bad at authority because he works solo most of the time.
Venom is fast and strong but he has weak resistance and he's not a charming guy to be around.
i'm glad that we're just operating on acknowledging how bi venom last year was.
Warlocks regain their spells after a short rest so they do have a chance to recharge.
With the new plasmoid race, we had the idea that you could play as the symbiote wrapped around an npc.
You can wear a medium armor that doesnt do penalty on dex and say it is "The Goo"
I went with Hexblade for more of the codependent. And why would he need to telepathically communicate with the party?
And Magical Initiate (druid) for certain spells that warlocks can't get (Primal Savagery). And some levels of sorcerer (shadow) for other spells (Web and Alter Self) and the early features seem to fit (reflavored descriptions)
I'll admit that I don't know too much about Venom (not one of my favorite characters) but the symbiote seems to aggravate people's anger issues so maybe Barbarian instead of Fighter?
My own take on the character uses the Simic Hybrid for wall crawling an a pair of grappling appendages. Started monk for two levels and then went three levels of spore druid. Funnily enough, the jump spell works along with the Monk's step of the wind ability multiplying your jump distance by six. My Venom has twelve strength at level five so that's a seventy foot plus horizontal jump. Vine Whip allows Venom to pull enemies to him and if he up on a wall you can yank them ten feet in the air before letting them fall on their butts. Primal Savagery fits the aesthetic as well though most of your attacks will be coming from the grappling appendages. From there you can take druid to four for an ASI and then keep bumping that monk till you get extra attacks.
Awesome video like always
Hey thanks, I work pretty hard on them. :)
Well I really think that the Order of the Lycan
Blood Hunter can be a better combo, just for the possibility to transform and getting big claw also with the flaw of :
Bloodlust (Special)
If you begin your turn with 14 or fewer hit points, you must make a DC 8 WIS saving throw or else move directly towards the nearest creature to you and use the Attack action against that creature, determining targets randomly if there is more than one possible target.
If you are unable to concentrate, you automatically fail this saving throw.
You can become out-of-control and attack allies without thinking of that, good for role-play.
With the :
Blood Curse of the Eyeless
When a creature you can see within 30 feet of you makes an attack roll, you can use your reaction to roll one hemocraft die and subtract the number rolled from the creature’s attack roll. You can choose to use this feature after the creature’s roll, but before the DM determines whether the attack roll succeeds. The creature is immune if it is immune to blindness.
You can ''blind'' target with eye-webbing so it's more likely to be in the style of the spider side that Venom learn how to act and battle.
also that just level 3, others level give speed, jumping, (not swimming sadly), and of course more attack and buff of the stats... And create Fear effect.
You should totally make a video about the green goblin.
That last pun hurt
If you're reading this now, a path of the beast barbarian fits so much better.
Transformation? check.
Natural weapons? check.
Climbing on walls and ceilings? check.
Super angry? check.
Alien strength? check.
Unarmored defense? check.
There was another pun at the end. The Carnage one.
"you have to be hot enough to be an alien's rebound". :((
In Pathfinder I played a character that was like Venom. It's a sorcerer class called the summoner synthesis. Its basically Venom.
The perfect character for a light hearted romance campaign.
wait a minute, in the goals, sticky fingers?
*parte 5 flashbacks*
The symbiotes actually have a old good Knull
Wouldn't Barbarian make more sense than fighter for Venom? Or is it the lack of a good Totemic Tradition? I figure given you're already going for a Spider adaption it might be better to go Totem Barbarian. Yes you can't cast spells, but when he gets up close and personal Venom rarely uses his webs. Taking the Bear totem first also mitigates your AC issues.
I was thinking about making this kind of character but change venom into a shadow-shadow demon, and change Eddie into a kid, trade weakness to fire/sound into weakness to radiant damage and you have what I call Shadow Boy
Their is a fairly well made homebrew which basically is a Symbiote class.Its called Keeper I think its amazing found it on the DM Guild
Excellent build. Could we get a doomguy build in the future?
Yes! On the schedule a little after the release of Doom Eternal so I can have some time to play it and figure out what to do!
Tulok the Barbrarian sweet. Can't wait
It is time...
You don't have Prof in Heavy Armor since you multiclassed into Fighter. So no Platemail for you.
Could start off as fighter then multiclass into warlock, then flavor the platemail as just being part of your symbiotic body, IE, your symbiote created this armor for you. And finally, keep in mind this build is of course, just a draft. If you, for example, chose to roll stats, its very likely you'd have your low dump stats the same, but even higher physical stats. Meaning you wouldn't necessarily need to take ability score improvements, and instead, could take feats to either super power your symbiote, or, use them to boost your armor proficiencies if you didnt start as a fighter.
Heres the question i've been debating with. I know I want to make a symbiote type character. But do I want to make a SYMBIOTE or a man WITH a symbiote...Meaning do I want to have to jump from host to host when one dies. Could be some very interesting game play there.
Tulok's favorite race is Human Variant
I would probably go barbarian and try to get as many of the other abilities as non magically as I could.
Definitely love the grasp of hadar for eldritch blast though and so many spells are good at mimicking Venom’s tendrils
*Venom*
A variant human fighter-warlock infamously in the moral grey area, rumored to be an otherwise-normal human bonded with a sentient suit of alien ooze.
If the latest Monk UA goes through you can just use Astral monk.
Just a question, do you think the arms of Hadar could work as a first level spell?
It's evil tendrils, kind of like venom
Considering the symbiotic relationship with a “suit” of sorts, does put Venom in the same category as Magical Girls? #DecemberTulokRewatch
A few levels in Barbarian and you've got an easy reflavor for Carnage
Might be time to update this with the Ravenloft source book
I wonder if a Carnage Build would technically also count as an Alex Mercer build.
Here's my carnage idea.
Rogue or monk to level 8
Pact of the blade Warlock to 10.
2 levels of fighter.
What about a green lantern build?
It's a little further down the schedule, but it's there! Will be out before the end of the year.
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 ok
I'd probably go barbarian rather than fighter, since the symbiote feeds on its host's resentment
I think the hexblade thing is more carnage like. looking at the concept now, I'd say venom might just be lvl 20 beast barb.
I made a Venom as a Kalashtar a bit back since they're basically humans with symbiotes.
A simic hybrid would work better for this. You get two mutations on your body at 1st and at 5th lvl. Nimble climber and Grappling appendages would work for Venom
Use Pact of the Host from Morgrave Miscellany instead, works much better and has Invocations to improve the experiance.
Pact of the Host pretty much IS a Symbiote.
Now you could do this as a hexblade, focus more on charasma and a little less strength. I think that would also make it feel more like it's the symbiote's strength and not the host's
Way of the Astral Self Monk makes a great Venom
When the guy who built Spiderman kills your previous character.
LMAO
I'm joining a campaign that allows homebrew stuff, so I also chose a Venom inspired character but used the Soul Binder class, bonded to an Aberration companion. Gave me tentacles and basically merged with my body like a Symbiote. You can get it here: www.gmbinder.com/share/-LY7agXq01TYt_qG2nUb
That sounds super cool! I've thought about doing some homebrew stuff on here in a new series, I'll have to check it out!
This build makes me miss Brute Fighters...
How would one build an Alex Merser from prototype
Awesome what did you think of the movie
It's fun bad. Not a travesty, but definitely not a masterpiece.
Wait does that mean no build on Thursday
There will be a build Thursday! I just had them both recorded before I realized I had my dates mixed up.
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 I agree. I love it, but it's a guilty pleasure type of thing, lol
I want to try making this character with Beast barbarian and Dao genie warlock
"Have you heard of Eldritch Blast" shit, I'm not caught up on the UA's
Hehe, "Carnage."
If your dm doesn't allow unearthed arcana, what fighter archetype should be used instead?
Have ypu heard of the jublexian race, basically a race of slimes, i feel like this should be remade with jublexians. Fits more with playing as venom and not just a venom host.
I think it would be better as a druid, different animals for different thing, a mess of black tenticles and liquid as dark as ink in the shape of a dire wolf would scare some bandits, or be a Goopy werewolf
Or just play the Synthesist Summoner from Pathfinder. Preferably the chained version because unlike other cases the unchained version is a nerf because one particularly salty creator of Pathfinder has a personal vendetta against this class and wants to prevent as many as he can from having fun with it. (Which is odd because it's not really 'op' in that ninth level casters like wizards, witches, arcanists, clerics, druids, etc. are still stronger.)
Ever think of doing the creeper from Jeepers Creepers? Or do you have a set list of characters?
I dont have a set list, I'm thinking of doing a homebrew series and I think that might work better as a monster, so I'll add that to my potential list.
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 thanks for all your hard work keep it up 🔥👌
Warlock spell slots and action surge and fighter healing come back after a short rest not long rest.
Speaking of carnage, would you be able to do a variation of this one for carnage?
they are virtually the same character, except with more Barbarian Rage for carnage, and more focus on gooey weapons, carnage cares less about mobility and more about immortality as he can regenerate better than venom.
watching this build reminds me of SPAWN. Any chance we can see that?
You should do a building character on Rimauru Tempest from That time I got reincarnated as a slime
I’d go simic thingy instead of human
now that way of the astral soul Exists I feel that that would fit venom a lot more then this(with a bit of flavoring)
Unarmored defense, high movement speed, astral arms represents tendrils... yeah, I'd say that class has the "meat" of the build down. Keep a couple levels of warlock for the essential spider-climb, cosmetic shapeshifting and maybe some more slime spells and you'd have a pretty solid Venom build.
This remind me of a class named onimusha from a brazilian RPG that has a symbiont as a class feature
I would have actually used changeling. Kind of like switching in and out of venom form
I have one issue with this video. You said two slots per day, but warlock slots refresh on a short rest
Not every campaign allows short rests, so take this video as just a rough draft, when you build your final venom character, it will inevitably be different. For example I wont be focusing on Charisma, instead taking Dexterity for armor, and if you roll stats, which, for a character thats supposed to be overly powerful like Venom, you might as well, you're pretty much guaranteed to get a host of powerful attributes that matter, and can then forego future ability score improvments in favor of of feats.
Correct me if im wrong, but doesn't the ability score improvement relates to the level of the character and not the level of the class? I saw that you added Ability Score every two levels at some point. Im not pissing on your build I just wanna understand the rule better
Checking on it, some classes appear to gain Ability Scores more often, notably the Fighter. I think it's sort of a generic buff for classes that are less complicated or don't get as technical.
I wish there was a vid for carnage