Looking for 700hp in Audi TT RS // Nürburgring
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations.
00:00 intro/specs
02:50 Lap
11:21 Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
![625HP AUDI TT RS | REVIEW on AUTOBAHN [NO SPEED LIMIT] by AutoTopNL](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fLDdJmSofGU/mqdefault.jpg)
Just to clarify a few things about the missing power because of all the hate in the comments...
The owner of the car is a good friend of ours and so we know the background story of what happened. A week prior of our Germany trip he was in a very aggressive and extensive police control back at home and they accused him of having an illegal flap control and forced him to remove some cables in his trunk wich actually control the WMI and so when he tried to run the big power map with Misha the ECU did limit the power by a lot because the WMI was not properly connected and the car went into a kind of safe mode and yeah the owner did not know that at the time of the recording because he does not use the big map on the streets... The car was upgraded by a well known tuner in Austria and actually put down it's power so no he doesn't believe in ghosts... but it was unfortunate timing - we will be back with everything fixed dont worry...
Back then at Carfreitag it was actually agreed upon that the video won't be posted due to the issues.
It’s Mischa’s channel and his content if he wants to post it then I’m afraid it’s going up, shit happens and if that’s the story then nowt to worry about anyway.. hope to see it back running the big map and wmi.. Iv been in a 700bhp tt rs and they are absolute weapons.. feel for the guy and Mischa Aswel cos it’s only after filming you figure it out. He needs to put content out there mate still, wether it’s positive or not 🫡💯
you call it hate? hmm so you think we hate - this is not a proper package from the tuner.
Good content for the clicks, his video, his channel his hustle , bring a car that works. Lots of videos get posted of the cars he drives when they overheat, jump into limp mode or whatever
@@proventure307 if you had read the whole thing you would've noticed that the package stopped working after wires were removed because of the police, not the tuner
@@proventure307 the package was working
Police told them he wasnt running proper equipment, after removing it the ecu went into a hidden safe mode but the car actually made that power once the wiring was sorted
Regardless of the 700 it hasn’t got, the Audi 5cyl sound never gets old
Maybe this guy should talk to the tuner of the 1000hp GT-R. He can certainly give him an even higher number.
Poor guy looked devastated when you told him 450 :') I don't get why people get so hung up with the numbers. If it's fast, it's fast.
Because dude probably put 20k into the car to tune only numbers…
Because he put it on his Instagram and got a thousand likes 😢
he paid for 720hp , but got only 450hp
numbers? you can feel the diff between 450 and 700. the guy is just scammed by the tuner or he made up the figures. if i pay a tuner for ~700hp and cost me 15k for new internals and such... and you get ony ~400 i will be devastated too... especially that i know DAZA engines (this is probably not the daza but a new revision) can do 1100hp with forged internals. but only around ~500 when you want it safe.
Because most of those tuned high horsepower guys do it for the bragging rights to tell people they have that amount of HP in their street car. That’s mostly the only real reason they are so focused on those numbers…
Poor guy, he looked so sad after Misha said it didn't feel like 700hp :D
More like in denial
If you can’t tell 400hp vs 700hp you deserve to be scammed
Roughly 8.9sec 100-200, nearly the same as a stock 8Y RS3 😬
He got scammed :D
Seems right, 2015 S3 plus a bit equals this.
yup a little bullshit makes the grass grow green too much burns it lol. he could of called the owner or tuner to know how to switch the maps..
Compare this car with the 550 bhp yellow TTRS that Misha drove that hit 306 kph ( Edited because some nitpicker stated the car didn’t ACTUALLY do 306 kph). It’s night and day. The yellow car was lots quicker
@@carlosoruna7174never heard that saying. It’s brilliant! Haha deffo borrowing that.
Owner: '700bhp??? REALLY???'
Tuner: 'Yes mate it's probably the quickest one in the world now!'
Owner: 'Wicked I'm taking it to NB and Misha's gonna give it a go...'
Tuner: Left the chat quicker than a 700bhp TT.....
Dyno 270
Crazy eyes "720"
😂😂😂
Dying laughing
700 Internet HP.... so 500 Real World HP
400 max!!!!!
Try approx 433 whp
Okey then give the reason? You can’t be 100% sure, u people say stuff without thinking
not even 500, looks like 400 max
@@ikbenjevader191 not sure if you are referring to my post, but a simple 100 to 200 time tells you its not much above stock.
as a mk2 stage2 ttrs owner (440bhp on 99octane)... the first half of the lap the 100-200 is slower than mine, the 2nd half is barely faster... so id say stock 400 and 450 or 460 after switching...
💯👍
Similar car was on the AutotopNL channel with 560hp! few days ago.
That car was 7.0 sec to 100-200km/h...
This car 9-10 sec!...700 hp...impossible (or the car has a problem)
I don't think it's the same car. The endplate on the rear wing is red on this video but black on AutoNL. Also, stickers are missing/added at different places and with another tuner name. Just saying...
@@TheRealDr.Mabuse you are right, similar is the right word.
Problem is the driver is short shifting everywhere. He never actually even got to 7k which is the limiter on a stock TTRS.
almost worse then the 800hp gtr 😬
nice car nonetheless 😎
You mean 1000hp? 😏😏😂😂🤣
both the gtr and this tt sound like 🎺🎺
@@ricardo1e93 🙈 a "1000" it was...
2:52 You can always determine how much horsepower the car has by looking at the bridge and valley. My 6 R has 330Hp and does 205-210 kmh in the valley. The car has a top speed of 219 kmh in the vally. This suggests that the car does not have more than 400 HP and therefore simply has standard performance. He also has the M2 in front of him, which also has 400 x hp as a competition... sorry, but I don't understand why people say things that aren't true... it's a great car even without 700 hp... why do some people want to make a name for themselves like that?! awkward!
You must understand..
~400bhp real numbers
+300bhp at weekend BBQ with friends 🤣
bro its the stickers and wing. those added a bunch.
@@iamatlantis1 need more stickers, each one is like +5hp
@@SHIZURAKU Good thing about Veee dub is that it has automatic underbody tectyl sealent system, it is called "permanent oil leaks"
Saw some comment about why it was underpowered. It definitely doesn't look like a 700 hp car since it wasn't reeling in some cars like it should. But also it revs to 7.5k stock and probably more since it's tuned yet he's shifting at 6200 all the time
spot on.
Came here for this comment.
Regardless of HP numbers… it was an extremely entertaining lap. 🎉
never gets above 6200rpm mildly infuriating.
@@mirth1 "There is the point."
The "missing power" discussion a side, I'm a bit puzzled you do not rev it all out but instead change gears at about little over 6000, not even hitting 7k when the redline is at 7500. I'm used to watch you reving up to the last bit of any engine and hitting redline every so often.
Do you remember why? Was the massive sound giving you the impression it would be already there?
The engine/exhaust sound is awesome, btw.
Same observation here. Also hp-meter on the dash wasn’t showing 100% power most of the acceleration time. Probably those 1500rpm would make a huge difference but who knows.
It’s like the 1000hp GT-R all over again but with a better soundtrack
We could all easily see it wasn't 700hp, especially when Misha said "I'm flooring it, and it is hard to keep up with that M2". But it has instantly evolved into a great excuse to see the tune's full potential! I'm sure Misha, the owner and us will have a jolly good ride to watch. Happy new year everyone!!
Hope we will see this car again next year, but with real 700hp) 1500kg + 700hp.... cant even imagine (hope cooling will keep up with such power)
Yeah it didn't overheat so that's a good starting point. Hopefully it's already setup to handle a few hundred more HP :)
@@volvo09it didn’t overheat with the tune it had however to get to the claimed 700hp from this approx 4-450 would need to turn up boost by at least 7-8psi add a few degrees of timing and you’ll see the difference in heat with the air-air intercooler
Misha could you do video about car upgrades where you talk about things and brands you prefer to be better or worse from you experience like brake pads, tyres, brake fluids, suspension etc. Absolutly love the comments at the end of all videos when you provide your feedback🤗
Saying 450hp really was Misha being polite and generous lmao
The disappointment in the guy's face after Misha told him the facts, ouch! Although surely as the owner you would be aware this isn't faster than stock ?
With 700hp this should atleast have 190kmh under bridge and 250in compression.. far awy from it.. 😊
200 speedo to bridge easy, at the low weight this car has. Plus would have spun the tires in 2nd even despite AWD.
misha's dissapointed face is priceless hahahaha
That jag f type you had on earlier was pushing 401 where the owner was sceptical about it himself. This seems exactly as fast that car
The short shifting...... it never stops. Brings car to race track and has it babied by pro driver. I would be wanting the things neck rung and pushed to the limit.
Shifting at 6k the entire lap was doing my head in 😅
And thats why the "Leistung" and "Drehmoment" gauges should not be in %!
Shame about the power issue but will be awesome to see it come back again and show it's true power :). Misha you are godly in any car and we love that, keep up the good work dude.
I think he was just getting pissed that he's on a ride in a car that doesn't do what the guy said it did. That right side lip purse he does is classic lol.
That's not even close to 700hp. I got 430hp in my 2017 M240i and need around 9sec from 100-200. So i think this TTRS will have around 380/400hp, since it needs close to 10sec for 100-200.
Must be the wing 😂
Misha be so blunt with ppl!! I love it 😂😂😂 u can tell he was really let down by it not putting out the power buddy said lol
Is the power curve only at 6k rpm shifts? Cool tachometer but I wanted to hear it redline 😅
Also got surprised that Misha shifted it like a diesel - so he didn’t want it to overheat or what? And of course in lower rpm it has a lot less power
maybe cause he felt like it didnt give any more power above? not sure, these engines usually like to rev out.
@@MrZyLeXx idk, yeah averaged 4k most of the lap.
Maybe since he was under the impression it was heavily tuned and it might heat up too quickly if revved out.
the engine did started to bog after the 6k and you could hear it had no life in it after, Misha felt it good and its good he kept shifting at that rpm
I don't care that the car didn't have 700hp. I saw lots of Misha's videos and in my opinion, that TT was perfect how it was. It was very neutral in curbs, no rattling and sound was amazing. 700hp will make the car barely drivable and will lose it's curb capabilities. Being the owner, I would let the car like that.
450hp tops. Sounds great tho
Love the content Misha ❤️❤️❤️
Красава Миша , сказал правду человеку ! Его где-то в конторе надурили 700 лошадей , а макси выхлоп и чип ему сделали 400 лошадей и то в лучшем случае.
I knew off the bat in wasnt 700 hp. That rolling 30-100 took like 5 seconds😂
Great chassis to work with big power builds. 450 -700 BHP…Sound car to track 👌🏼
Although far from the claimed 700hp Misha’s early upshifts and lack of downshifts in some parts of the track (mostly 2nd half) surely didn’t help either😅
Car has massive potential though and the sound is spicy!
Ha ha!
@@PLAYERSLAYER_22please stop
@@PLAYERSLAYER_22 the torque tends to drop off a bit a the top of the rev range (so the acceleration will decrease a little) but what's relevant for the acceleration is the wheel torque and not the engine torque. The wheel torque will be much lower though when you upshift due to the now lower gear ratio. Engine power is basically the product of torque and rpm. Therefore, you have more power / can accelerate quicker if you shift later (the "later" depends on the torque/power curve but I'd say it's usually very close to the limiter).
Misha included the displayed power and torque information (probably approximated/computed instead of measured) at the top right corner and you can indeed see that the torque drops of a little towards the end of the rev range but you can also see that the power remains at 100% (from 5.5k RPM upwards) - the power determines how fast you can accelerate so you basically want to remain above 5.5k RPM.
I was also a bit irritated why Misha shifted so early but there could be lots of reasons for it (the owner could've asked him to (e.g., due to the tuning), the green and yellow shifting indicators could've been irritating, Misha wasn't used to the car yet, etc.).
@@NeonNightTraveler hang on dude you are using correct concepts to elaborate on what I believe is a major misconception. torque does not always mean greater acceleration. engine HORSEPOWER is torque multiplied by rpm, so the apparent power output of an engine does depend on engine RPM as a variable. this is why I included the SITUATION in my original comment. this is due to the fact that torque and rpm are both beneficial in different situations. going uphill you want more fuel impulse per distance traveled therefore RPM will be a chief variable, and going downhill torque will be the chief variable. but you are correct that the fastest shift point will usually be between the peak torque and maximum rpm, but not necissarily maximum rpm in every scenario which is where the misconception lies. this is why misha does not always rag out the rpms on every drive rather than the reasons you imply
@@PLAYERSLAYER_22No you are the one who needs to pick up a book. Torque is not useful work, it's literally just horsepower (kilowatts) divided by rpm. Peak kilowatts here is almost certainly made highest in the rev range.
It doesn't matter if you're going downhill or uphill, the amount of kilowatts you're putting out is the only factor in how much acceleration you're getting.
It's nice to see a driving enthusiast-to-the-bone say and I quote "the best handling Audi ever made (with exception of rws or rear wheel driven audis)". People just dont yet know :)
I like how now a TT is a tiny version of R8. Looks kinda this same, but smaller and has half of V10 that R8 has. It was a good decision to bring back the goold old 5 banger to life.
the tuners best friend..
I'm sure that the owner probably changed his mind and later agreed that he was cool with the video being posted since an explanation for the lack of power has been explained in the comment that has been pinned by @Misha Charoudin
I was never a fan of the earlier Audi TT but the late version with that engine is 🔥
Maybe the dyno numbers were incorrect. Can happen on rare occasion if there is a problem with the readout because of problem with the dyno itself. This will mean trouble with the rest of the tune on the car, I hope they can find the issue,
2:11 is the brake disc installed in right side / opposite side?
i saw some install in /// way
not \\\ way
Sounds amazing for a 420 hp 5cyl 👍
this does 8.9sec 100-200kph and my stage 2 TTRS does 100-200kph in 5.5 second with around 540whp stock engine stock turbo just bolt ons
Misha destroyed the VAG fanboys :-D
Most issues Misha has are with tuned vag cars
look forward to see the big map :D
Yeah something is up it doesn't look like it's getting it's 700HP. Something is up with the Tunning? This sucks looks like it would be fun at 700HP! Thanks Misha for the Share!!! 😁
Seems about the same pace as mine. I agree 450hp ish
Motor Audi normalmente aplica un pico muy corto de máxima potencia, ejemplo sube de golpe a 700cv a 5900 6100 rpm y baja de golpe
Por eso motor BMW siempre da más con los mismos CV 😉
I have a 2013 RS with minor bolt ons and it’s extremely fast, even for a heavy car.
What a sound this car makes...amazing
Would love to see this one back again with its full 700hp!
beautiful sounding motor
doesnt the stock 5 banger is maxed out to 550hp with stock internals? i know daza engines can go up to 1100 hp but with all forged internals...
Beautiful car well presented power delivery . performance is impeccable at any power on these machines, my 09 A4 Estate was a beast, something ill cherish till i can afford another after it was stolen and trashed by an audi approved nz car dealer.
What settings do you use in the individual mode?
nobody notes the M2 in front and later, behind misha? Drives amazing too, regards to him !!
For a moment i got excited until i saw the first pull 😅. I remember the 550hp one and i knew it's not even close to 700!
Car sounds amazing
This is very simple to explain, if you dont have the supporting mods to do big power gains, is not going to be just ecu tune, that is going to give you more 300 hp, that is just comen sense, and that is the true, to have that power you need at least a bigger turbo !
Glad to see my F82 brakes arent the only ones that sound like a rusty swing set
without the WMI the engine breaks, it's dangerous although the ECU did limit the power
Why replace the 6 pot stock brakes?
Мне как бывшему владельцу ТТ очень хочется посмотреть ещё один заезд, когда машина будет исправна и под капотом будут все 700hp, ждем продолжения)
Honestly barely keeping up with a 370 hp M2 is kinda problematic when you have 700 on all 4 wheels 😅
Shifting at 6k RPM in order to keep temps down?
Mine 1.8t TT has 450whp on garmin map and even 50 more on google map... but i just don't know where to switch them on 😓
It couldnt keep up with a N55 M2... The M2 got propably 420hp if it is not a stage 3 (which is rare), even in the correct map the m2 could keep up.
When looking at the rev limit, it seems this car has APR Stage 2 installed. If that's the case, it seems like there might be an issue.
My Unitronic Stage 2 with 545 hp and BBS-FIR achieves 0-100 km/h in 3.1 seconds. How is this possible?
The owner should seek the truth. They must have invested a significant amount.
Éste TT RS no tiene más de 450 hp. Si tuviera 700 hp, saldría de las curvas como un auténtico cohete. Eso sí, el sonido del 5 cilindros de audi, como siempre, espectacular❤️
Sry misha, but i think that was a Little Bit Ur fault too. I Drive myself 750hp, but when you doesnt go above 6500rpm, the car Has only 600hp. You Need to rev that Turbo Monsters…
2:31 Just curious to know more about the "brake fluid you said"
He recommended me to buy motul rbf 660 wich i did - greetings ,m4 owner
Stage 2 is 520/530 max torque capped at 700
Nevermind the HP, that car is a beast!
Which brake fluid did Misha recommend?? Asking for a friend.... 😬
Endless, answering for a friend.. "Misha" ☺️😗
endless
As long as it’s rated for 600ish any are similar
Thanks fellas 🤙🏿
Not just UK 'tuners' then,😂
Would it have anything to do with the gearbox being in M and not S? Maybe mapped to Sport mode? Wild guess lol
My guess is probably a guy who got a tune and exhaust and someone told him (or he made up?) that it should be 700hp, but really it's just 400whp (which is strange because they are near that stock I thought).
The m2 was a paid actor to showcase the real power of the tt😂
Nice sound
Funny thing is you can often just hear the engine and have a good sense of power. Big power engines are mean sounding sobs. They have to be. Power is a byproduct of how much raw air you're shoving through the engine. You can not shove a lot of of air quietly through a small engine. There's only so much you're going to get out of a 2.5L engine for power and torque. The fuel type will have hard limits. For a 2.5L, 700WHP is like a dead engine until the giant turbo finally spools at 8000 rpm at like 45psi. Like a GTX3582R is the smallest turbo Garrett has to make 700HP build, and you're not making jack until 3k rpm. It'd be an absolute dog after every shift. An actually efficient turbo for 700HP won't make jack until 5k and would be dead after every shift. Equally, there's the heat problem. 700HP requires a massive amount of cooling not easily fit into a small car.
was going to skip it....then I actually watched it. Stock power way less chance of overheating🤣
It’s probably something in the tune.
Usually they make 550 on 93octane and around 600 on E85, with the stock turbo
93 in North America is the equivalent of Europe 98
@@emlrider4885dont get RON and ROZ confused
This car (even bone stock) with open roof on a mountain road. ❤❤❤
Are car this light with 720 crank would float be like sf90 speed
Looks like 380hp to me
Good video
hast meiner meinung nach arg früh hoch geschalten, der turbo hat sich meist grade erst auf 100% aufgeladen da biste schon hoch. denke paar tausend umdrehungen waren noch da
could tell instantly this car was nowhere near 700hp .the way it was accelerating it looked more like a full bolt on car with maybe 400hp lol Mischa is on point
Stock with open exhaust
What happened to the M2 ?
He said he didn't know the mapping, it was most likely on a stage 1 map or something, or on an e85 map with regular fuel in the tank.....
Ai thumbnail cringe AF, otherwise good video as always :)
Sounds like a tad above stock. Doesnt seem too crazy
DAZA supremacy til I die. These cars are just so awesome
I am sorry for the guy, when he was told, that the RS has just around 450hp. So he has to offer some money back from his tuner. Anyway, he has a really nice car!
Comment on top of the video, they had to remove something for police inspection, that caused the ecu to go into safe mode
They added the cabling back and magic 700hp is back