30psi. vs. 50psi. boost, dohc vs. sohc, 4 valves vs. 2 valves per. cyl., 2jz vs. rb30, turbo lag, blow off valves, etc. All this wisdom is just pouring through the armchair tuner community and you guys at JPC have the audacity to show an RB30 actually making over 1200hp on the dyno! Imagine what you could do if you only knew what your computer bound advisors are trying to tell you! I am truly LOL. Great work, by the way.
Austin Turner BOV = Blow Off Valve. & Turbo flutter or compression surge are not necessarily bad but it does wear down your turbo's life. Some will argue that but you choose, longer life turbo sounding normal, or short life turbo sounding wicked cool?
I just love the sound of the RB engines. Makes me happy when I see an RB engine pushing over 1,000 HP. This one makes nearly a megawatt. Still, it should have a blow-off valve.
for dummies That's not a RB30DET It's a RB30ET I saw some comments saying that this engine is an RB30DET RB30DET is a single turbo RB30 Engine with rb20-26 DOHC head This one still has the SOHC head so there's no D in it
Well considering in the 1980s especially 1986 formula one cars ran 5.5 bar boost pressur which is like 80psi in qualifying trim. Their motors produced anywhere from 1200-1450hp. 50psi is a lot don't get me wrong but there have been times were even more boost was used.
Here is a perfect example of Japanese quality and engineering. 3L engine making 1200hp, while in usa, they need 5L and 8 cylinders to make to make 800hp.
True, however with the amount of boost this particular engine is producing I can almost guarantee that it has all aftermarket forged internals and it also will be rebuilt on the regular.
Brett Sharbono what's your definition of "easily achievable"? because I want you to show me a v8 that makes 1500 hp on pump gas. odds are it has every internal piece replaced with a forged unit.
94eh3 and even then this motor isn’t even on pump gas so idk why you decided to throw that in there lol. This is run on almost purely ethanol. This engine on pump gas might make 800.
I think this shows how important intercooler technology is, as it will both improve power and potentially lower the exhaust temps at the same time. Can't imagine those manifolds holding together for 50+ passes.
I see no BOV but... Flutter at deceleration is not the kind of compressor/turbo surge that damages shaft bearings, and motors. True compressor surge happens at peak power. When the turbo produces more air flow than the motor can swallow, the turbine stalls and compression suddenly flows backwards out cold air intake. Once the pressure drops, the turbo is able to grip the air again, boost quickly develops, and the turbo stall again. Because compressed air is elastic, this sudden stall and recovery cycle sends powerful reverberation through the entire intake, engine, and exhaust system. This is what causes damage. At deceleration, the throttle body is closed and the pressure reverb is isolated to I/C and plumbing. Although this is hard on the turbo, it's not life threatening because the backlash is minimized and pressure falls off quickly. Here is an example of the dangerous kind of surge. ua-cam.com/video/nCj6Spwl1CU/v-deo.html Best regards to all.
the throttle is fully open. The piston that allows to remove the air that is before admission is closed. When the throttle closing (cutting the fuel admission) creates a vacuum in the piston through a tiny tube allowing the piston to go up and remove excess pressure which lies close Butterfly
+v8consumption Because they not worm clamps, which good to 15 psi, they are called t-bolt clamps and at 50 PSI they at the upper limit, Good to 55PSI, any more and have to double them all up.
Carroll Shelby's last effort to bring racing to America instead of left turns and the 1/4 mile drag was a one year stint with CAN-AM cars. He envisioned entry level little guy racing possible way before the UK Ariel-atom with a mid engine tube chassis trans axle coupled to Chrysler's pre production mini van V-6. The 3 liter V-6's easily made 300 hp with no boost and just cam/spark box and tall port injection plenum. But again the Ford -Chevy crowd and Americans clung to Detroit wonder metal stone age crap, and Shelby's cars went to South Africa. Shelby, always ahead of his time. RIP.
The flutter isn't even my favorite part of the turbo sound, it's the spooling, because I like to imagine how much air is being pulled through the turbine
i dont like the sound it produces when power reduced, a good thing would be to install a dumpvalve, because it is a surge that you produce in the blowerside of the turbo, that will kill the vanes in time
So how to you explain engines that spend an entire season doing this exact thing, doing well over 100 passes in a given season and still live? They're dyno tuning it. They HAVE to do this.
I'm extremely curious to how this engine was built. I know you can convert the RB26 to RB28 with a upgraded stroker kit. But i'm unsure if that same thing applies to this.
+NFS Realistic The RB30 was an engine that Nissan made for holden. It came in the VL commodores. A common modificatation in NZ and Aus is to take the RB30 bottom end and combine it with the higher flowing heads from the RB25 and 26
Whilst the comments above me are very relevant, do keep in mind the veyron ALSO has turbo, 4 of them infact, and it does have the technology. This engine wouldn't be quite as reliable as a veyron engine but yes it has some serious modifications done, fully forged RB30 sounds about right to me. And the veyron is more of a cruisy car than it is quick, if you want quick go for the Koenigsegg one:1, a hp for every kg of weight ;)
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@Rodrigo Ribeiro é um motor de um Nissan Skyline,Com motor RB30DETT e o carro do beamngdrive meu carro preferido é o Ibishu 200BX com motor 2.0 4 cilindros turbo e depois veio o Ibishu Pessima e o Covet,com motores 1.5 DX e 1.6 DX (Ibishu).
It would also be intresting to keep the engine under this load for a several minutes.. like 10mins? For temperature stability checks it need to run nearly a hour on fully load, or is this engine just for drag racing ?!
If I consider my driven routs through germany I had continious loads. If you initiate the cruise control above 250km/h you'll have generally a high load, even it wouldn't be the peak power of this awesome engine ;) -- I hope it will keep running for a long time :D -- safe roads for you :D
Bruce Carbon Lakeriver Temp stability checks run an engine in a room for an hour at full load pushing 50 pounds of boost with little to no air flow for cooling? How many motors have you built - none?
honda12345678 At first I am using metric units and none of those irrational imperial units; second, how did you come to the magic number of .. a hour? And third, from where could you know how many engines I might have built? Magic crystal ball ? And 4th I did ask about for the requirements, so Fullboost answered that, thx for that at this time - and therefore the point is done!
Bruce Carbon Lakeriver For what reason? Who is going to be driving under full load on a street for several minutes? If it's a 1/2 mile, hopefully it won't be more than 10 seconds. So wh put the motor under that amount of stress. The true test is to see how many pulls it will handle and stay in one piece like how it's being done now.
No. Joseph Small is spot on. There are way to many variables to say that dose-ing is the cause shortened turbo life. The only thing you want to look out for, is when you get compressor surge whilst under load.
+Marek Sumguy Really? And whats your knowledge based in? If you were involved in the community and work on the cars maybe you'd understand its not that uncommon. Most get a light freshen up at the end of a season, shit even the 1320video of the 1300hp r32 he talks about running the same bottom end on 55psi since 2015 but hey since you know better.
+Max Bepunkt If you had installed an electric motor (not a dinky fan from eBay but a motor with real power) to spool up the turbo faster initially you would therefore eliminate the lag. This has been done by Volvo in their triple turbo charged 2L engine. (Which is not on the market though, does crank out 400+ HP with no turbo lag)
I didnt know sparks can act like this! (Reminds me of an German thread from 2002. Someone thought he had an slow LAN Conection because the Electricity is too fast for the LAN cable and just flies out in the corners....)
Yeah guess its an ultra high voltage discharge not unlike lightning. That sounds a bit like how me and my friends used to joke that the 1's would get stuck on the corners that 0s would just flow through lol
In Brazil we use ethanol in our cars. Kinda like 7 out of 10 cars here can run both on gas or ethanol. But, I think government ruled E80 spec here. There are many reasons why it's not higher level, but it's cool to see it in a project like this one.
Can someone explain me why someone that builds a turbo engine like that would run no BOV like that? I know some won't handle 50psi because they will just explode, other won't stay shut and create a boost leak, but some blow off valves can be adjusted with a spring to avoid that, even with that much boost. I just don't understand why they rather destroy a 2000$ turbo instead of a 300$ blow off valve. If someone can answer, that would be great!
+Justin Larrivée . Many go on about the 'damage' that will be caused without a BOV, but is this from first hand experience or others just saying it will cause damage...? I've seen countless RB30s without BOVs on the street for YEARS getting thrashed. The turbos have never had any problems and they were always running a decent boost level (20+psi). These were mainly bush bearing turbos. My current car has a BOV as it came with it, but previous cars never had them.
+Fullboost I'm mechanically inclined but I'm not an expert neither. I heard about compressor surge and the air going back into the turbo couldn't be good
Glowing manifold pipes are completely normal. Take almost any car and give it a good hard drive for a minute or two (at night so you can see it) and lift the bonnet. Totally normal. Its actually important to keep manifold pipes (turbo or NA) hot to maintain gas velocity. The reason you see extractors wrapped isn't just to keep heat out of the engine bay, it's also to keep it IN the exhaust.
the sound of the air pressure surging when the throttle is snapped shut and the turbo has nowhere to push the air. the air tries to escape back out the turbo making a whistle/flutter sound at the same time
Lol not even...There's a guy on the Nissan forums getting 1650 awhp out of his rb26 stroked to a rb28. (Not stock at all lol) and he's only on 38 psi of boost (more efficient turbo)
Patrick Crawford lol ok. There's TONS of guys in national competitions and youtube vids amd on forums putting down over 1100hp on the rb26 with stroker kits. Hell there's a guy who's putting down 2300hp on a stock block 2JZGTE.
***** turbo surge that they eliminate for turbo longevity is when on throttle. This reversion you hear when the throttle is shut is not damaging to performance or longevity
Lynel Simpson They can limit total boost for drive pressure reason, but when the fuel and throttle and turned off the shutter you hear in the video is TERRIBLE for bearings and can even snap shafts. THAT IS BAD FOR LONGEVITY get a clue good lord..
Not true, the reversion that happens after the throttle is closed is negligible to longevity. Surge under boost is most definitely terrible, but not in this case. Listen to most of the newer diesel trucks, they have massive reversion stock from the factory without a blow off valve. The main reason a bov is used is to keep the compressor speeds up in between gears by not having it push against the throttle plate causing it to slow down quickly.
That makes sense to help keep the turbine speeds up during shifting, however "reversion" is most definitely "harder" on a chargers shaft and bearings than if it were to not do any "reversion" at all. BTW: Most new trucks have almost ZERO reversion from the factory. The only way to get any kind of reversion out of them is to basically do a burnout, and let off suddenly. Under most normal driving conditions you'll never hear anything, their compressor wheels arent big enough, and the exhaust side A/R is too tight
You guys only made 1200 with 50 psi..?lol..lame. My buddies, grandmas, friends, son has a toyonda civrolla that has an Ib6ub9 motor that makes 1500hp with only 30psi on 87 pump gas...Stop laughing, Im not fuckin' lyin' its the troof.
Bhahaha, 30psi and 1500hp? My friend's nephew's dad's friend is making 2300hp on 10psi boost in his Mitsubishi Civic. He has a rotary straight 6 engine. The engine is fully N/A and he does 7 seconds on a 1/4 mile with diesel gas.
Look on tube for Renault/Honda F-1 enginedyno tests and the low revs on this Nissan will be mundane. Now opining a tune from my generation....Cue music: "Wild Cherry" And yes Charles I am a white boy. Only as old as I feel!
Years ago a mate of mine had a Toyota T-18 with a crazy aftermarket turbo setup, we used to wind the boost up to 25 psi, take it for a mad blast, stop at the top of a hill, leap out and lift the bonnet and light our cigarettes from the turbo housing. I kid you not, we really did that. The exhaust manifold and turbo housing got red hot.
Let's clear a few things now shall we? Sorry to tell you surge believers, but this is something else, what you hear is the flutter created because there is no BOV on this setup. When you give it the beans, the turbo is moving massive amounts of air (obviously). Closing the throttle means the air still coming from the turbo needs to get out somewhere. In this case, the intake of the turbo. So, there! :)
It's obvious that this is what it happening needless of the tutorial. But to clarify a few things i think the problem lies in the basic understanding of the definition as arguing semantics is a common occurrence on youtube. Surge ie. compressor stall is known as the reversal of airflow in turbine jet engines and turbos. the "Surge" or flutter or squeal or whatever floats your fucking boat is the sound of the turbine chopping the air that it moving in the reverse direction of the air being compressed. Hence, the surging effect. I don't know how to make myself any more clear.
+Eddy Khan you are correct and shouldnt be mocked and have your knowledge brought into question. a BOV does serve a purpose but in this case they like the surge sound (probly)
For others arriving here and myself. Specific gravity of the particular E98 fuel blend used during this dyno run achieving the power advertised? Fuels require school at this output young [youtubers] to achieve power and not making scrap too prematurely. These men might well be making it but there is lots of science involved beyond purchasing to replicate and maintain.
for more valves, 1 overhead cam vehicles typically have 8 valves (assuming its a four cyl engine) and dual overhead cams have 16 valves, or even 20v in the mk4 golf gti engines, dont really think people choose between dohc and sohc for weight reasons, hope it helps
30psi. vs. 50psi. boost, dohc vs. sohc, 4 valves vs. 2 valves per. cyl., 2jz vs. rb30, turbo lag, blow off valves, etc. All this wisdom is just pouring through the armchair tuner community and you guys at JPC have the audacity to show an RB30 actually making over 1200hp on the dyno! Imagine what you could do if you only knew what your computer bound advisors are trying to tell you! I am truly LOL. Great work, by the way.
WTF
@@Micheal31046 my thoughts exactly.
Anonymous Rider 219 what.
Pl explain the meaning of 50 psi boost
The whole concept
@Howard Keer why tf would you want to hack someones account
Legend says that the dyno room still echos the stututu sound
XD
no
That flutter nice
#270
I love the fact that the whole intercooler and piping shifts at 1:11. That is some SERIOUS airflow.
Every time you get off the throttle, it's just like "SUTUTUTUTUTU!"
+Skylar Edge Don't even look like it has any DV.
+Skylar Edge what is BOV and is the turbo flutter bad
Austin Turner BOV = Blow Off Valve. & Turbo flutter or compression surge are not necessarily bad but it does wear down your turbo's life. Some will argue that but you choose, longer life turbo sounding normal, or short life turbo sounding wicked cool?
+Skylar Edge i have to go with turbo sounding wicked cool.
+Skylar Edge, compressor surge and flutter are not the same thing, i wish people would stop saying they are
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FLUTTTTTERTRTRRR
@@jaanbanaan72 that's an intercooler 🧀
$500 for the first guy to touch the manifold. xD
i touched it. where is my $500. i even have the burnt scar to prove it!!
Show me!
Intake or exhaust? I will touch the intake lol
brandon johnson
intake still gets hot ._.
No where near exhaust lmao
I just love the sound of the RB engines. Makes me happy when I see an RB engine pushing over 1,000 HP. This one makes nearly a megawatt. Still, it should have a blow-off valve.
for dummies
That's not a RB30DET
It's a RB30ET
I saw some comments saying that this engine is an RB30DET
RB30DET is a single turbo RB30 Engine with rb20-26 DOHC head
This one still has the SOHC head so there's no D in it
The RB30 was only ever sold as a SOHC anyway ;-)
I'm
You're?
It is RB30DET you idiot
you obvesly dont know your rbs as this is clearly an rb30e+T which is single cam "DET" Stands for Dual overhead cam, Electronic fuel injection, Turbo
That's the most brutal turbo flutter I've heard so far 😲
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Put fit in Volkswagen bus 😂😂😂😂
50psi? Im no gearhead but isn't that like....DAAAYUMMMMMM!!!! Amounts of boost?
Indeed it is.
yea it is. lol
Well considering in the 1980s especially 1986 formula one cars ran 5.5 bar boost pressur which is like 80psi in qualifying trim. Their motors produced anywhere from 1200-1450hp. 50psi is a lot don't get me wrong but there have been times were even more boost was used.
Ive seen a diesel run on 100 psi, I think it was actually 98, either way, still crazy high
Branden Peck look up the black pearl 1st Gen 135 psi
Here is a perfect example of Japanese quality and engineering. 3L engine making 1200hp, while in usa, they need 5L and 8 cylinders to make to make 800hp.
wrong. with that they can make about 3000hp
True, however with the amount of boost this particular engine is producing I can almost guarantee that it has all aftermarket forged internals and it also will be rebuilt on the regular.
Brett Sharbono what's your definition of "easily achievable"? because I want you to show me a v8 that makes 1500 hp on pump gas. odds are it has every internal piece replaced with a forged unit.
94eh3 Sloppy Mechanics. Engine Masters. Both have made 1k HP on stock bottom end LS Motors. On pump gas.
94eh3 and even then this motor isn’t even on pump gas so idk why you decided to throw that in there lol. This is run on almost purely ethanol. This engine on pump gas might make 800.
I think this shows how important intercooler technology is, as it will both improve power and potentially lower the exhaust temps at the same time. Can't imagine those manifolds holding together for 50+ passes.
Danger to manifold!
-Buy it
-Put it in a Prius
-Go to an eco cars meetings aaaand..... BRAAAAAAAAAP~STUTUTUTUTUTUTU!!!!
FOX-POP-YT Yo have eco car meetings? damn the world is getting bad
Everyone likes a good brap.
FOX-POP-YT LMAO
I'd do that and take it to a cars and coffee.
But it runs on ethanol 😂
İs it going to fit my Honda?
you probably could actually
turbo yoda: "no, i just can't do Hondas"
LOL no one knowns the joke from mighty car mods :D
+CAR GUY hmmmmm, 6 speed in a honda.
+CAR GUY
hey turbo yoda, can this fit to my Honda? Hey turbo yoda can this fit to my Honda or this is just for Subarus??
It's cool watching the intercooler get moved around when it gets into high boost
The glow on that exhaust is mesmerizing
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i am now an expert at cars.
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ok
I'll allow it
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You’re not an expert until you can run 10’s with a stock barra😭😭😭
small engine is enough powerful than Bugatti, 7900 L rev 1000 PH
Andy Bes which one is more reliable and easy to maintain ?
Jez100 0 the small engine.
So what you are saying that small engines can gives the same amount of torque as Bugatti?
@@kanushbhalla83 far more
Would you explain it how that's possible
that would make some bloody good pulls down the highway topping it off with an amazing sutututu
Glowing manifold within seconds 😨😨 wowww plus the pipe flex is just incredible
the rb that gives the 2jz a run for its money
Vl turbo engines are amazing.... Thank you Nissan !!
I see no BOV but...
Flutter at deceleration is not the kind of compressor/turbo surge that damages shaft bearings, and motors. True compressor surge happens at peak power. When the turbo produces more air flow than the motor can swallow, the turbine stalls and compression suddenly flows backwards out cold air intake. Once the pressure drops, the turbo is able to grip the air again, boost quickly develops, and the turbo stall again. Because compressed air is elastic, this sudden stall and recovery cycle sends powerful reverberation through the entire intake, engine, and exhaust system. This is what causes damage.
At deceleration, the throttle body is closed and the pressure reverb is isolated to I/C and plumbing. Although this is hard on the turbo, it's not life threatening because the backlash is minimized and pressure falls off quickly.
Here is an example of the dangerous kind of surge.
ua-cam.com/video/nCj6Spwl1CU/v-deo.html
Best regards to all.
Datsun510zen someone finally fucking said it, ive been saying this for years. Armchair tuners take note.
the throttle is fully open. The piston that allows to remove the air that is before admission is closed. When the throttle closing (cutting the fuel admission) creates a vacuum in the piston through a tiny tube allowing the piston to go up and remove excess pressure which lies close Butterfly
This is still one of my favorite videos ever
This video give me chills like no other!
sooooooo much boost............boost makes me happy
americans: my supercharged v8 makes 700hp
nissan: hold my beer
My supercharged 10.6 v8 makes 200hp
"Hold my Wasabi"
Fastest 1/4 mile car in the world? Oh it's a supercharged V8.
remeber to add the it makes 760 stock
*hold my sushi*
Beating the piss out of that turbo with no BOV or Bypass. Congrates on the power!
best way to warm up your engine on a cold day
Its funny seeing 50psi in a tiny straight 6 making 1,200Hp.
50Psi in a 500ci hemi nets 10,000 horsepower
How the fuck are those worm clamps holding to 50psi
Magic.
+v8consumption Because they not worm clamps, which good to 15 psi, they are called t-bolt clamps and at 50 PSI they at the upper limit, Good to 55PSI, any more and have to double them all up.
hommie789
no a few are worm clamps. and a few are fully supported t clamps
Because they are good ones that are threaded. Those can hold 65+ that's what they use on drag cars when they're too cheap for t bolts
can i mount this on my datsun ?
Yes
Put it in one of the early Z cars for a sleeper..
can i you as whenn Fiat?
Carroll Shelby's last effort to bring racing to America instead of left turns and the 1/4 mile drag was a one year stint with CAN-AM cars.
He envisioned entry level little guy racing possible way before the UK Ariel-atom with a mid engine tube chassis trans axle coupled to Chrysler's pre production mini van V-6. The 3 liter V-6's easily made 300 hp with no boost and just cam/spark box and tall port injection plenum.
But again the Ford -Chevy crowd and Americans clung to Detroit wonder metal stone age crap, and Shelby's cars went to South Africa. Shelby, always ahead of his time. RIP.
The flutter isn't even my favorite part of the turbo sound, it's the spooling, because I like to imagine how much air is being pulled through the turbine
i dont like the sound it produces when power reduced, a good thing would be to install a dumpvalve, because it is a surge that you produce in the blowerside of the turbo, that will kill the vanes in time
It's flutter not surge
its complete lifespan without a car :D
LOL...yeah, this video documents this engines entire lifespan. XD
one my Satsuma Nissan 30DETT?
I feel sorry for that turbo.
Lol very true
My engine blowed are my F 150.
OMG the exhaust pipes turning red in the dark ! Magnificent !
Honestly this RB30ET isnt going to last very long everytime he pushes her to the limits!
So how to you explain engines that spend an entire season doing this exact thing, doing well over 100 passes in a given season and still live?
They're dyno tuning it. They HAVE to do this.
I'm extremely curious to how this engine was built. I know you can convert the RB26 to RB28 with a upgraded stroker kit. But i'm unsure if that same thing applies to this.
+NFS Realistic The RB30 was an engine that Nissan made for holden. It came in the VL commodores. A common modificatation in NZ and Aus is to take the RB30 bottom end and combine it with the higher flowing heads from the RB25 and 26
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Veyron: +1000Hp, 8L 16 cylinder. Skyline: +1200Hp, 3L 6 cylinder...
Where is this world going to!?
The veyrons engine doesnt have the technology thats exerted in this one. That and this has been tuned extensively (Not sure what they did exactly)
They installed a big ass turbo ? ^
im sure they have modified something internally but yes the turbo has a big impact on power
Whilst the comments above me are very relevant, do keep in mind the veyron ALSO has turbo, 4 of them infact, and it does have the technology. This engine wouldn't be quite as reliable as a veyron engine but yes it has some serious modifications done, fully forged RB30 sounds about right to me. And the veyron is more of a cruisy car than it is quick, if you want quick go for the Koenigsegg one:1, a hp for every kg of weight ;)
This man knows his cars ^
i love the sound of the turbo spooling back down all at once, its like awe man i was just getting started.
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I love those sprakplug wires hanging over that beautiful spinning pulley....
Those exhaust headers, jesus christ.
Não tem como colocar o motor RB30DETT num Fiat Duna SCR '92
@Rodrigo Ribeiro é um motor de um Nissan Skyline,Com motor RB30DETT e o carro do beamngdrive meu carro preferido é o Ibishu 200BX com motor 2.0 4 cilindros turbo e depois veio o Ibishu Pessima e o Covet,com motores 1.5 DX e 1.6 DX (Ibishu).
IN R B WE TRUST. 😉
Car goes like , broaaaaaaap sutututtttuuu braaaaaaap sutuututuuu
No chu chu blow off sound, just a glorious huge turbo! love it
This proves that both Nissan and Toyotq build the best inline 6 turbo engines
It would also be intresting to keep the engine under this load for a several minutes.. like 10mins? For temperature stability checks it need to run nearly a hour on fully load, or is this engine just for drag racing ?!
Bruce Carbon Lakeriver Yes for the drags but a street car too, so no way its ever going to see continuous load.
If I consider my driven routs through germany I had continious loads. If you initiate the cruise control above 250km/h you'll have generally a high load, even it wouldn't be the peak power of this awesome engine ;) -- I hope it will keep running for a long time :D -- safe roads for you :D
Bruce Carbon Lakeriver Temp stability checks run an engine in a room for an hour at full load pushing 50 pounds of boost with little to no air flow for cooling? How many motors have you built - none?
honda12345678 At first I am using metric units and none of those irrational imperial units; second, how did you come to the magic number of .. a hour? And third, from where could you know how many engines I might have built? Magic crystal ball ? And 4th I did ask about for the requirements, so Fullboost answered that, thx for that at this time - and therefore the point is done!
Bruce Carbon Lakeriver For what reason? Who is going to be driving under full load on a street for several minutes? If it's a 1/2 mile, hopefully it won't be more than 10 seconds. So wh put the motor under that amount of stress. The true test is to see how many pulls it will handle and stay in one piece like how it's being done now.
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Single cam engine???
yes, now imagine if he had a head of an rb26
No. Joseph Small is spot on.
There are way to many variables to say that dose-ing is the cause shortened turbo life.
The only thing you want to look out for, is when you get compressor surge whilst under load.
Take a look at this extremely tuned monstaa golf!
VW Golf 2 drift, RWD BMW V8 4.4 engine , THE BEAST!
Neat light bulb lol.
that turbo flutter tho
that turbo surge tho lol
Flutter *
Dose *
+DUB Productions flutter*
Quiver*
Succ*
Still the best video on the internet. Period.
I love the way this engine sounds.
how many times can you rev up that engine like that before it blows the fuck up... or at least blows a head gasket or destroys a piston or ring...
Not many... i assure you. Pushing that much power through a 3 liter with a factory cast block and head...
Wrong. Guys are getting a couple years of racing out of these.
Couple of years for all that money and time, what a waste
Bullshit... not at this power level.
+Marek Sumguy Really? And whats your knowledge based in? If you were involved in the community and work on the cars maybe you'd understand its not that uncommon. Most get a light freshen up at the end of a season, shit even the 1320video of the 1300hp r32 he talks about running the same bottom end on 55psi since 2015 but hey since you know better.
It sounds like a V12 from the murcielago
v12= two inline6s put In a V they sound similar exept v6 motors
not all of the V12s are two inline6s put in a v shape
TheGlowingPiston wat is a V10 then ik it's not a single online
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FiSMA interesting
Thats one Big Ass Turbo but yeah Turbolagg ::)
+Max Bepunkt If you had installed an electric motor (not a dinky fan from eBay but a motor with real power) to spool up the turbo faster initially you would therefore eliminate the lag. This has been done by Volvo in their triple turbo charged 2L engine. (Which is not on the market though, does crank out 400+ HP with no turbo lag)
+Max Bepunkt In a drag car the lag isn't a issue as you are building boost before you launch.
+DriftNick b'coz drag car racers already push the throttle half the way before the green light shows on the track.
+Keyur Monpara no because we have antilag and 2step
Hi guys, outstanding work of engineering, very neat indeed, I wich to be there but I am thousands of miles away but nice of you to shear it with us.
Thats a serious ignition system. See the spark coming out of the dizzy at 2:35
I didnt know sparks can act like this!
(Reminds me of an German thread from 2002. Someone thought he had an slow LAN Conection because the Electricity is too fast for the LAN cable and just flies out in the corners....)
Yeah guess its an ultra high voltage discharge not unlike lightning. That sounds a bit like how me and my friends used to joke that the 1's would get stuck on the corners that 0s would just flow through lol
Luke P
Haha :D
What I wanna know is, how the fuck did the hose clamps on the couplers hold 50psi?! mine wouldnt even hold 12psi on an IHI RHB5 haha.
how come it still uses a dizzy?
Because it works
Those poor turbo bearings .. :(
In Brazil we use ethanol in our cars. Kinda like 7 out of 10 cars here can run both on gas or ethanol. But, I think government ruled E80 spec here. There are many reasons why it's not higher level, but it's cool to see it in a project like this one.
This beast will fly off the mountings soon people damn!!
Roses are red violets are blue my rb30 goes STUSTUSTUSTU
sounds turbo suffering without Blow off valve ....
turbos love the stutututututut
Can someone explain me why someone that builds a turbo engine like that would run no BOV like that? I know some won't handle 50psi because they will just explode, other won't stay shut and create a boost leak, but some blow off valves can be adjusted with a spring to avoid that, even with that much boost. I just don't understand why they rather destroy a 2000$ turbo instead of a 300$ blow off valve. If someone can answer, that would be great!
+Justin Larrivée .
Many go on about the 'damage' that will be caused without a BOV, but is this from first hand experience or others just saying it will cause damage...?
I've seen countless RB30s without BOVs on the street for YEARS getting thrashed. The turbos have never had any problems and they were always running a decent boost level (20+psi). These were mainly bush bearing turbos. My current car has a BOV as it came with it, but previous cars never had them.
+Fullboost maybe, I just though turbo flutter like that was destroying turbos, am I right? just want to know, I'm curious
+Fullboost I'm mechanically inclined but I'm not an expert neither. I heard about compressor surge and the air going back into the turbo couldn't be good
+Justin Larrivée 'destroying' turbos, I'd like to see some fact a about that, is this based over 10,000kms, 200,000kms?
+Fullboost I have no idea, this is why I'm asking, I'll have more accurate answers from people that knows more than me.
Glowing manifold pipes are completely normal. Take almost any car and give it a good hard drive for a minute or two (at night so you can see it) and lift the bonnet.
Totally normal.
Its actually important to keep manifold pipes (turbo or NA) hot to maintain gas velocity. The reason you see extractors wrapped isn't just to keep heat out of the engine bay, it's also to keep it IN the exhaust.
That is the most disgustingly powerful rb32 iv ever heard
Install a Trust Type-R BOV and save that engine.
+Randy Randerson
Thanks we'll let them know :)
Plus the Type-R BOV sounds amazing :-D
After listening to that, I doubt that Supra is using a blow valve.
Why put on a BOV?
Andrew Mulligan helps the turbo last longer and can control the boost better
RIP that turbo. Stututututu-ing itself to death because the builders didn't use a BOV
A lot of people say this but provide no evidence.
Need that blow off valve
There is no BOV.
That is what I am implying.
MrSkillfullyDone
Oh, sorry, I misread that.
the sound of the air pressure surging when the throttle is snapped shut and the turbo has nowhere to push the air. the air tries to escape back out the turbo making a whistle/flutter sound at the same time
Malachi Stephenson dude so much stutututu its bad for the turbo😂
Drag engine with auto trans behind it. Doesn't need a BOV.
No lifting off during a run and torque converter takes the load when the trans shifts.
Seriously powerful engine. Probably the most powerful rb engine that don't use nitrous.
Lol not even...There's a guy on the Nissan forums getting 1650 awhp out of his rb26 stroked to a rb28. (Not stock at all lol) and he's only on 38 psi of boost (more efficient turbo)
seth newman Nah that's probably faked.
Patrick Crawford lol ok. There's TONS of guys in national competitions and youtube vids amd on forums putting down over 1100hp on the rb26 with stroker kits.
Hell there's a guy who's putting down 2300hp on a stock block 2JZGTE.
seth newman no no way I need links I've never seen anything close. (Apart from the rb26)
+Patrick Crawford 2JZ-GTE'S come with forged internals from the factory. Those numbers are definitely possible on the stock block.
That's not blow off, it's turbo surge. VERY VERY BAD
It's the bov if it was turbo surge they would have fixed it.
***** turbo surge that they eliminate for turbo longevity is when on throttle. This reversion you hear when the throttle is shut is not damaging to performance or longevity
Lynel Simpson They can limit total boost for drive pressure reason, but when the fuel and throttle and turned off the shutter you hear in the video is TERRIBLE for bearings and can even snap shafts. THAT IS BAD FOR LONGEVITY get a clue good lord..
Not true, the reversion that happens after the throttle is closed is negligible to longevity. Surge under boost is most definitely terrible, but not in this case.
Listen to most of the newer diesel trucks, they have massive reversion stock from the factory without a blow off valve. The main reason a bov is used is to keep the compressor speeds up in between gears by not having it push against the throttle plate causing it to slow down quickly.
That makes sense to help keep the turbine speeds up during shifting, however "reversion" is most definitely "harder" on a chargers shaft and bearings than if it were to not do any "reversion" at all. BTW: Most new trucks have almost ZERO reversion from the factory. The only way to get any kind of reversion out of them is to basically do a burnout, and let off suddenly. Under most normal driving conditions you'll never hear anything, their compressor wheels arent big enough, and the exhaust side A/R is too tight
You guys only made 1200 with 50 psi..?lol..lame. My buddies, grandmas, friends, son has a toyonda civrolla that has an Ib6ub9 motor that makes 1500hp with only 30psi on 87 pump gas...Stop laughing, Im not fuckin' lyin' its the troof.
Bhahaha, 30psi and 1500hp? My friend's nephew's dad's friend is making 2300hp on 10psi boost in his Mitsubishi Civic. He has a rotary straight 6 engine. The engine is fully N/A and he does 7 seconds on a 1/4 mile with diesel gas.
Radical power ahahahahahh
The first pass i thought that was turbo surge...
and it is haha
+jorge ery, and its not
jorge ery you're quite wrong. That's the blowoff valve not exhausting enough pressure
+_Husky, what blow off valve? But yes a blow off valve not exhausting enough will cause it
scootbmx01 A BOV is installed on this setup, as well as all other FullBoost builds. You can hear it exhausting as much as it could
headers getting hot as hell, crazy never seen that happen
Look on tube for Renault/Honda F-1 enginedyno tests and the low revs on this Nissan will be mundane.
Now opining a tune from my generation....Cue music: "Wild Cherry" And yes Charles I am a white boy. Only as old as I feel!
Years ago a mate of mine had a Toyota T-18 with a crazy aftermarket turbo setup, we used to wind the boost up to 25 psi, take it for a mad blast, stop at the top of a hill, leap out and lift the bonnet and light our cigarettes from the turbo housing. I kid you not, we really did that. The exhaust manifold and turbo housing got red hot.
Let's clear a few things now shall we? Sorry to tell you surge believers, but this is something else, what you hear is the flutter created because there is no BOV on this setup. When you give it the beans, the turbo is moving massive amounts of air (obviously). Closing the throttle means the air still coming from the turbo needs to get out somewhere. In this case, the intake of the turbo.
So, there! :)
Its just a test, so for more fun, no BOV for a cool flutter sound :) Just a few times doesn't hurt anything
It's obvious that this is what it happening needless of the tutorial. But to clarify a few things i think the problem lies in the basic understanding of the definition as arguing semantics is a common occurrence on youtube. Surge ie. compressor stall is known as the reversal of airflow in turbine jet engines and turbos. the "Surge" or flutter or squeal or whatever floats your fucking boat is the sound of the turbine chopping the air that it moving in the reverse direction of the air being compressed. Hence, the surging effect. I don't know how to make myself any more clear.
surging because of no BOV installed. Can be dangerous for turbo.
fluttering* no harm
JPC knows more about building and tuning engines than you do Eddy
+Eddy Khan you are correct and shouldnt be mocked and have your knowledge brought into question. a BOV does serve a purpose but in this case they like the surge sound (probly)
No it can’t mate
Sounds terrible with all that grinding and scraping noise, why would anyone spend so much money for it to sound broken???
Not sure what you mean, is there a time stamp you can refer to?
+Fullboost Fuck that guy. It sounds awesome.
Its just a comment i made....i dont him to fuck me thanks..
i think hes refering to the turbo bark at times like 1:42 or at 1:07 the idle does sound a little rough
I don't think he knows what turbo stutter is. That would explain the comment.
the whole thing expands so much
50 psi is Diesel territory...props!
Massive turbo lag, no air filter in front of the turbo, but one hell of an engine. Makes me watch it again and again...
When your engine is so powerful it starts moving by itself
Am i the only one with the goosebumps throughout the boosts?
What blew my mind is seek g the interviewer move, purely by the amount of air forced through it. Holy shit
Wow, fucking amazing Zach. Let's make a list of engines with more power. That shit is sooooooo relevant and people totally inquired about it.
For others arriving here and myself. Specific gravity of the particular E98 fuel blend used during this dyno run achieving the power advertised?
Fuels require school at this output young [youtubers] to achieve power and not making scrap too prematurely. These men might well be making it but there is lots of science involved beyond purchasing to replicate and maintain.
This is just insane. The exhaust out the back of the dyno cell on a wet day would probably put out steam running one of these.
for more valves, 1 overhead cam vehicles typically have 8 valves (assuming its a four cyl engine) and dual overhead cams have 16 valves, or even 20v in the mk4 golf gti engines, dont really think people choose between dohc and sohc for weight reasons, hope it helps
still watching in 2018?This wont be get old.Still the baddest and illest turbo sound.I thought its bov but I guess it doesnt have bov
Этот звук турбины просто ласкает слух)
900+ torque i want to feel this push on the streets