Episode 1: The Phantom Venice Episode 2: The Rome Wars Episode 3: Revenge Of The Spanish Episode 4: A New Pope Episode 5: The Mongols Strike Back Episode 6: Return Of The Brutii Episode 7: The France Awakens Episode 8: The Last Brutii
I can see the AI doing that. I bought a city off of France only for them to attack it the same turn, and of course I didn't have the chance to move in many troops into that city.
Many A True Nerd it's not just likely it's inevitable, these are the requirements for a good ally: good reputation (your reputation is literally despicable so that's out of the question, nice job executing and sacking everything) and good relations (your relations with them is just "so-so", good relations would be like "perfect" Sofia or Ragusa is besieged in under 10 turns, trust me. good choice for your 40K
"the biggest loss was the artillery" if only they had some sort of reason to leave the battlefield before getting ran over, something like running out of ammo 5 minutes ago
As Jon says often, they had one job to do and they didn't do it... not having any ammo and the river crossing being rubbish to defend is NO flipping excuse!
If you are about to enter a relationship and you find that all your partners' exes were brutally murdered and dismembered, you wouldn't care if all the gore bags had started it, now would you?
He's been executing POWs for most of the series now. In terms of the in-game reputation system, executing POWs is almost as bad as taking a dump on the Pope's face.
+Moving Parts Gaming That reminds me of the Civilization series. You can go to war and murder everyone, and everyone hates you for warmongering, or you can defend yourself against an unprovoked attacker and everyone still hates you for warmongering. The AI can even hate an opponent so much that they ask you to go to war together against them, only to hate you for warmongering as soon as you start. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Diversified artillery portfolios: Serpentine cannons would have made that first bridge battle a bowling alley and given you the range advantage. Never thought I'd see the day Jon got beaten at bridge battles
he shouldn't have spent the first 10 minutes getting his front line murdered and started back, draw all their archers over the bridge into range, clumped up on the ridge, with "short range" artillery raining down on them, even scouts charging them would have made them break = 1 mongol army taken out.
That battle was painful to watch in its incompetence. The enemy stayed spread out on the other side of the bridge because they were in range....because Jon MASHED his own army up against the other side and let them shoot from the other side! MOVE. THEM. BACK. Make the enemy move into the middle of the bridge to shoot at you, you dunce! And he never moved his artillery to be head on and shoot down the length of the bridge! *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* Even that crappy army with crappy ribaults should have massacred the enemy. A decent army with CANNONS would have made this an exercise in hilarity. Remember, this is one of the games Jon says he 'knows everything about', like Fallout 3. :/
yeah, i can never get why he put the catapults at angles to the bridge either, the balls they fire bounce so they do huge damage if u line them up with the bridge packed with troops. forcing them to cross the bridge would have been good to watch
interesting that the Mongol AI seems to love fighting in the field but has never besieged you, had you just stayed in settlements they might never have attacked you
Why don't you use the serpentine cannon (if they attack you on a bridge again) and put it directly vertical to the bridge that way you have the range and since the shots tend o bounce you can tear them a new one and destroy the ones behind them.
Jon is terrible at artillery even though he spams the fuck out of it. artillery is AMAZING for bridge battles and siege defenses because it doesn't stop after hitting the first soldier it goes right through em, so if you have a chokepoint full of soldiers and you fire straight down it, a third of the soldiers in there are going to drop dead.
Jon, Ribaults work like big shotguns. They are the most effective when you can put them in front of a narrow bottleneck and let them shred forces that try to run at them head on. Additionally, you can have your infantry assembled directly behind the cannons (shoulder and shoulder with the additional cannon crew members). It won't compromise combat effectiveness, and is a good way to protect your artillery operators from being over run.
First battle, should have fallen back earlier, retreated earlier, or pull the artillery out as well. That stuff's expensive. Also, Godfred's traits went DOWN. Not up.
Complacent ruler Jon is complacent. You shoulda setup the artillery at the beginning of the bridge and archers as choked up close to them as possible infantry in back. It has piercing and would've nearly never missed a shot with infantry coming into the block a charge on them *then* pulling ranged units back to a high position. It also would've been more fun to watch imo rather than you floundering when your copy past tactic with inadequate troops against overwhelming forces wasn't working.
A fight outside a city/ castle wouldn't actually pull the garrison out, because the mongols would do a night fight, so the captain in the settlement wouldn't be able to join the fight
Originally it was because he expected the Mongols to push south and was hoping they'd attack Damascus so that 1) he wouldn't have to deal with the massive Egyptian garrison and 2) it would weaken the Mongols.
Gnaeus Vatinius Yes! You’re that insane guy who helped ruin Rome with his desire to _conquer_ some mythical warrior women. I’m surprised to see you here in heaven
Tiberius Brutus we're focussing too much on that whole mongol problem, why not focus on the positives? I mean, taking Yerevan this episode was a Steppe in the right direction
Havent watched this yet, but let me guess. He positioned his artillery in a way that they shot the ground rather than the enemies for like the forth time?
This is why I don't use the Ribaults. They are pitifully short range, and by the time the enemy comes into range they become near useless. Serpentines on the other hand can deal death all the live long day.
Ribaults are fine, but Jon needed a little bit of longer ranged stuff in his army as well. The lesson here is that when the enemy out ranges you, a bridge battle might not go your way.
ForlanceAbice I've never gotten a ribault to fire at all. I even brought one maybe 40 feet from the enemy, flat ground, fire at will and targeting manually, and wouldn't fire
The ribaults seem so buggy, and so often waste time repositioning before they fire. You'd think that, after 40 minutes of waiting in the battle, those ribault troops would have their weapons loaded and ready. But nope, they wait until well after the last minute to do things like load and aim. They are obviously pretty buggy. They would be amazing if there was a manual command to "just fire right now for christ's sake, the enemy is right in front of you!" but nope.
Ribaults in Total War have two purposes: Put them in front, dead center, of a bridge or breach or open gate to make a dent in incoming troops. On-line en-masse to shred enemy battle lines, in the absence of enemy missile units or competing artillery. Jon has been trying to use them as effectively gunpowder archers, but they don't work like that.
@@chrisedwards3866 Yup, I've never understood why there couldn't be a 'force fire' option. Well, I do somewhat understand... it would make holding bridges and breeches REALLY easy since all someone has to do then is pre-sight the spot they want and spam artillery fire. But, that's kinda the point of it all I suppose so shouldn't be an excuse.
That would obviously be the right move, yes. It does lets them get some more space on the other side, but they'd still have limited space as you charge in on their still forming ranks and cause chaos.
His strategy was obviously to let the enemy archers keep firing at his guys until their arms got too tired to resist him. And that's when he would spring his trap... 😎
What is the #1 rule of combat against the mongols. DONT ENGAGE THEM IN A BATTLE ON OPEN FIELDS OR BRIDGES. Also the liberal use of spears and archers. That's rule #2.
Nah, bridges are fine if you have the right strategy. I've taken out three full stacked mongol armies with one army on several occasions. Spear and heavy troops, armor piercing missile troops (preferably crossbows), some artillery and a couple unit of cav to run down fleeing soldiers.
I feel like you should have seen that coming with the Mongols firing all the arrows in the world over the bridge, I think the entire army has bows for goodness sake. they had very little incentive to charge forward at all.
couple of things jon 1: dont bother with flaming arrows when fighting the mongols, the traits of their generals combined with the experience of their troops means they will not break anyway, those arrows wont help much 2: mercenary artillery is basicaly useless, stick with serpentines 3: get some sword staff militia and place them back to back behind your dismounted feudal knights, this way they are protected, whilst their spears mean they will still be able to fight the enemy from behind your knights 4: do not dismiss catapults to easily, placed correctly (like at the flanks in a bridge battle)they are just as deadly as cannons are, as in bridge battles range is less important
and for the love of god, STOP TARGETING MONGOL FOOT ARCHERS!!! they are the weakest troops the mongols have, and as it stands you do not have any spears to counter their cavalry, even if you get swordstaff militia you are at an disadvantage. Just bombard their cavalry, they are the units that matter in open field battles
Also hope your perception doesn't preclude you from noticing that Ragusa has plague... you might want to think about delaying your assault. You know, unless plague is your thing.
Use serpentines as well blah blah, bottle necks work both ways yadayada, position of forces etc etc, norse archers are early/mid game and the rest. But let’s be honest, that unit of archers sent forward, who got reduced to 4 without even wavering are rivalling the peasants for MVP of this entire campaign.
That was a brilliant episode; real damn exciting, harkening back to the earlier episodes of this series. It was a brilliant battle, since the Mongol AI was really competent, and the fact that you could technically have won if you played your cards right. Also you befriending the Byzantines... Better and flipping better.
Jon you're terrible at artillery, artillery is great for city defenses because the thing with artillery is that it doesn't stop until it hits the ground (unless it bounces off) so you can wreak havoc through an enemy column by firing it straight down a street or a bridge. that is what you did wrong at the bridge battle against the mongols, if you placed your artillery straight at the end of the bridge you could've caused chaos. you're also making a mistake by not giving Antioch artillery. spam serpentines, catapults and trebuchets. ribaults are crap
The actual proper "cannon" cannons are also good, used effectively. Bombards are really only for taking castles, should not be fielded in open battle unless absolutely necessary. The thing that bugs me the most is he knows, or at least he commented in an earlier part, that cannon are almost always on the right axis even if the shots go short or long. Line them up with the enemy column you numpty!
occurs to me. with that 1st bridge battle after the cannon had run dry on ammo, you could have slowly withdrawn those cannon so that they were already at the edge of map when you pulled out your general & salvaged a little bit more of that force.
That bridge battle was sooooooooooooooooooooo satisfying. After bridge battle after bridge battle where you double encircle the end and bottleneck them to death it was such a breath of fresh air. The Mongols switch up of tactics has made this series exciting again. :D
Always position arty in line with the bridge- lenthwise. That way you maximise lisses on the enemy throng on it and do not waste ammo shooting into the river when missing.
A little advice for the next bridge battle against mongols, fall back, dont stand at the beginnig of the bridge, they outrange you so if you do the thing that you did, you will be defeated every time, fall back and let them come to you, as soon as they are about to exit the bridge, rush them with your infantry and hold them at their place, then bring your archers to start pelting them, and place your artillery in a vertical line to them so that every shot kills multiple people, this is the way to win bridge battles if enemy outranges you
Although it was auto-resolved, wasn't the army that took Yerevan the one with the heroic peasants? Yet further Honours and Accolades to add to their illustrious career: unifying the Empire!
I think every other time I've watched you try to bribe a reluctant party, you increase the amount until they get huffy and reject you entirely. Glad to see you, for once, succeed in buying uncertain friends!
why does he always put his artillery at an angle to the bridge? if u line it up with the bridge catapults usually overshoot or undershoot, meaning u still hit the troops on the bridge. doing it sideways like this just means most of the shots fired will do nothing cos they'll hit the river in front or behind
But you've been constantly shifting troops, it appears to be why they bumble, the moment they move one way you sure up your defences so they go somewhere else. If not Edessa they might be going for the army guarding it or even the weakened guard at Aleppo?
Maybe use more fire arrows? It looks like they were burning through your Dismounted Feudal knights without much trouble, unless Mongol archers are armor-piercing. But if a hit fire arrow is a kill regardless, using it against that mass at the end of the first bridge battle may have helped, along with the morale penalty.
Jon, all your executing and sacking will lead your alliance with the Byzantines to deteriorate incredibly quickly. your reputation is despicable, everyone will betray you the first chance they get because of how poor your reputation is. you just wasted 40K on an alliance that if you're super lucky will last 10 turns and you have an ally that hates you, has 40K to build several armies and has 3 neighbors they can fight including you. big mistake, you could've spent that money on development and new forces
In my HRE campaign, the only chivalrous Emperor I've had was the one I started with. Gotta have those assassins to take out all the orthodox priests, imams, heretics, witches, merchants, and enemy assassins.
gargoyles9999 Sheer luck. The first family members are the hardest since they usually start with a 7-12% chance of success. My assassins were usually 2-4 stars at the beginning. I'll throw them all at the same one until I get a lucky hit to take them out, then build them up on the generic general with a much easier hit chance before throwing them at the next family member. If you get lucky and get the leader and heir first the replacements are almost never as well guarded. By the end, my remaining assassins are all 10 stars with at least 3 retinue. The catamite, courtesan, and exquisite blade.
gargoyles9999 Oh yeah! The Mongols took Antioch from me and settled it. I noticed that when a family member, heir, or leader was inside the city my assassination success chance went up almost 20%. They're much more lax on security when inside a city. :D
Altough it has been fun to see why Jon does not understand the movement of the Mongols...Someone needs to tell him that THEY MOVE IN A GROUP. Meaning that if one army, even one that you chase off, gets ahead of the main groups, the main groups will chase after to where the newly battered army is. In the next episode we will see the army Jon defeated walk back towards the main groups.
Well Jon, if you can't make friends, Buy them instead. maybe the reason it was so expensive is because you're practically trying to make them ally with the Borg!
I think you are doing bridge battles wrong. Instead of being at the edge. have your archers so that they can barely hit the bridge. the way you are doing it with holding the bridge exit means they can stand on the opposite banks to hit you. if you start further back then you can move forward with your shorter range troops once the enemy engages.
I still don't understand why did he limit himself to ONLY train/retrain 2-3 at a time when he could have queued more than three units and turn by turn retrain them along the line.
I really do hate that artillery can't have a 'force fire' mode. Just something to aim at a spot rather than a target in particular as a sort of pre-sighted engagement.
Has Jon ever mentioned that Caesarea is named after Caesar? His pronunciation seems to suggest it hasn't occurred to him and it bugs me every time he mentions it.
Episode 1: The Phantom Venice
Episode 2: The Rome Wars
Episode 3: Revenge Of The Spanish
Episode 4: A New Pope
Episode 5: The Mongols Strike Back
Episode 6: Return Of The Brutii
Episode 7: The France Awakens
Episode 8: The Last Brutii
Mental Pigeon Episode Two: The Rome Wars
Episode 7: The France Awakens
Episode Seven, The Pope Awakens?
Mental Pigeon Episode 7: The Mongol Awakening ? Or Episode 3: Return of the Mongols ?
Episode 3: Revenge of the Spanish
How hilarious would it be if the Byzantines used all that money to build a massive army to go to war against Denmark
It's worryingly likely...
I can see the AI doing that. I bought a city off of France only for them to attack it the same turn, and of course I didn't have the chance to move in many troops into that city.
Many A True Nerd it's not just likely it's inevitable, these are the requirements for a good ally: good reputation (your reputation is literally despicable so that's out of the question, nice job executing and sacking everything) and good relations (your relations with them is just "so-so", good relations would be like "perfect"
Sofia or Ragusa is besieged in under 10 turns, trust me. good choice for your 40K
They will.
"the biggest loss was the artillery"
if only they had some sort of reason to leave the battlefield before getting ran over, something like running out of ammo 5 minutes ago
They were probably surprised that the Mongols actually attacked them, instead of dithering on their side of the river the whole time.
Honestly, the Ribaults are so buggy and unwilling to fire that I think it's better without them.
It triggers me so badly when Jon doesn't clear the artillery off the field as soon as they're out of ammo!
As Jon says often, they had one job to do and they didn't do it... not having any ammo and the river crossing being rubbish to defend is NO flipping excuse!
He should have just left them behind and brought more infantry. Ribaults suck all the di*ks in the universe.
Perhaps the Byzantines were so hard to ally with because they noticed that all your previous allies ended up being ground to a pulp by you?
Gage Nott that is not Jon’s fault. They attacked first
If you are about to enter a relationship and you find that all your partners' exes were brutally murdered and dismembered, you wouldn't care if all the gore bags had started it, now would you?
He's been executing POWs for most of the series now. In terms of the in-game reputation system, executing POWs is almost as bad as taking a dump on the Pope's face.
+Moving Parts Gaming
That reminds me of the Civilization series. You can go to war and murder everyone, and everyone hates you for warmongering, or you can defend yourself against an unprovoked attacker and everyone still hates you for warmongering. The AI can even hate an opponent so much that they ask you to go to war together against them, only to hate you for warmongering as soon as you start. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
To be honest, Civ AI is one of the laziest AIs in the 4X genre.
Diversified artillery portfolios: Serpentine cannons would have made that first bridge battle a bowling alley and given you the range advantage.
Never thought I'd see the day Jon got beaten at bridge battles
i was about to say that he should have gotten cannons instead of being a dumbass
he shouldn't have spent the first 10 minutes getting his front line murdered and started back, draw all their archers over the bridge into range, clumped up on the ridge, with "short range" artillery raining down on them, even scouts charging them would have made them break = 1 mongol army taken out.
That battle was painful to watch in its incompetence. The enemy stayed spread out on the other side of the bridge because they were in range....because Jon MASHED his own army up against the other side and let them shoot from the other side! MOVE. THEM. BACK. Make the enemy move into the middle of the bridge to shoot at you, you dunce! And he never moved his artillery to be head on and shoot down the length of the bridge! *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk*
Even that crappy army with crappy ribaults should have massacred the enemy. A decent army with CANNONS would have made this an exercise in hilarity.
Remember, this is one of the games Jon says he 'knows everything about', like Fallout 3. :/
yeah, i can never get why he put the catapults at angles to the bridge either, the balls they fire bounce so they do huge damage if u line them up with the bridge packed with troops.
forcing them to cross the bridge would have been good to watch
With the pointless defeat in Warhammer I'm beginning to think he's either complacent or screwing up on purpose to build drama.
Jon: Why aren't they firing?!
*Zooms directly in on a Mongol mounted archer blocking the cannon*
@Many A True Nerd You should gift Rome back to the Byzantines as a present to the "Real" Romans.
interesting that the Mongol AI seems to love fighting in the field but has never besieged you, had you just stayed in settlements they might never have attacked you
Indeed possible - but there are other big events coming later in the timeline, so it's fairly important to deal with them before those show up...
Considering that their strength is in horse archers, and that the little infantry they have is pretty awful, that makes a lot of sense.
I agree with Jon, the next horde showing up is even worse
Why don't you use the serpentine cannon (if they attack you on a bridge again) and put it directly vertical to the bridge that way you have the range and since the shots tend o bounce you can tear them a new one and destroy the ones behind them.
Didn't he do that on the second battle?
No. The alignment was skew.
Jon is terrible at artillery even though he spams the fuck out of it. artillery is AMAZING for bridge battles and siege defenses because it doesn't stop after hitting the first soldier it goes right through em, so if you have a chokepoint full of soldiers and you fire straight down it, a third of the soldiers in there are going to drop dead.
Leonardo Cacciato I never watched the full video I got about halfway.
Jon, Ribaults work like big shotguns. They are the most effective when you can put them in front of a narrow bottleneck and let them shred forces that try to run at them head on. Additionally, you can have your infantry assembled directly behind the cannons (shoulder and shoulder with the additional cannon crew members). It won't compromise combat effectiveness, and is a good way to protect your artillery operators from being over run.
Why the heck did you not withdraw your artillery?????? Just a complete waste
They were here to hold, to hold the door to Antioch, to hold the door, to hold the...
First battle, should have fallen back earlier, retreated earlier, or pull the artillery out as well. That stuff's expensive.
Also, Godfred's traits went DOWN. Not up.
Complacent ruler Jon is complacent. You shoulda setup the artillery at the beginning of the bridge and archers as choked up close to them as possible infantry in back. It has piercing and would've nearly never missed a shot with infantry coming into the block a charge on them *then* pulling ranged units back to a high position. It also would've been more fun to watch imo rather than you floundering when your copy past tactic with inadequate troops against overwhelming forces wasn't working.
A fight outside a city/ castle wouldn't actually pull the garrison out, because the mongols would do a night fight, so the captain in the settlement wouldn't be able to join the fight
even when the game tells you to you won't just end Egypt
why does Egypt still exist?
Because Jon has a weird thing about leaving countries alive but with one territory for ages.
Originally it was because he expected the Mongols to push south and was hoping they'd attack Damascus so that 1) he wouldn't have to deal with the massive Egyptian garrison and 2) it would weaken the Mongols.
To give you a warm-up.
Jon likes to play with his food ;)
A snack for the Horde milord.
inb4 all the "I Khan't Believe It" puns.
All these newbies need to khancentrate on making better puns.
Tiberius Brutus that pun was brutus
Khan anyone remember me?
-no- oink
Gnaeus Vatinius
Yes! You’re that insane guy who helped ruin Rome with his desire to _conquer_ some mythical warrior women. I’m surprised to see you here in heaven
Tiberius Brutus we're focussing too much on that whole mongol problem, why not focus on the positives? I mean, taking Yerevan this episode was a Steppe in the right direction
Havent watched this yet, but let me guess. He positioned his artillery in a way that they shot the ground rather than the enemies for like the forth time?
Yes
This is why I don't use the Ribaults. They are pitifully short range, and by the time the enemy comes into range they become near useless. Serpentines on the other hand can deal death all the live long day.
Ribaults are fine, but Jon needed a little bit of longer ranged stuff in his army as well. The lesson here is that when the enemy out ranges you, a bridge battle might not go your way.
ForlanceAbice I've never gotten a ribault to fire at all. I even brought one maybe 40 feet from the enemy, flat ground, fire at will and targeting manually, and wouldn't fire
The ribaults seem so buggy, and so often waste time repositioning before they fire. You'd think that, after 40 minutes of waiting in the battle, those ribault troops would have their weapons loaded and ready. But nope, they wait until well after the last minute to do things like load and aim. They are obviously pretty buggy.
They would be amazing if there was a manual command to "just fire right now for christ's sake, the enemy is right in front of you!" but nope.
Ribaults in Total War have two purposes:
Put them in front, dead center, of a bridge or breach or open gate to make a dent in incoming troops.
On-line en-masse to shred enemy battle lines, in the absence of enemy missile units or competing artillery.
Jon has been trying to use them as effectively gunpowder archers, but they don't work like that.
@@chrisedwards3866 Yup, I've never understood why there couldn't be a 'force fire' option. Well, I do somewhat understand... it would make holding bridges and breeches REALLY easy since all someone has to do then is pre-sight the spot they want and spam artillery fire. But, that's kinda the point of it all I suppose so shouldn't be an excuse.
It was the Byzantines, it was the worst of times.
When the enemy won't cross the bridge because they can shoot you without effective reply, you pull back and MAKE THEM CROSS THAT BRIDGE! =>[.]
That would obviously be the right move, yes. It does lets them get some more space on the other side, but they'd still have limited space as you charge in on their still forming ranks and cause chaos.
His strategy was obviously to let the enemy archers keep firing at his guys until their arms got too tired to resist him. And that's when he would spring his trap... 😎
What is the #1 rule of combat against the mongols. DONT ENGAGE THEM IN A BATTLE ON OPEN FIELDS OR BRIDGES. Also the liberal use of spears and archers. That's rule #2.
MONGOLS ON AN OPEN FIELD, NED!!!!
Nah, bridges are fine if you have the right strategy. I've taken out three full stacked mongol armies with one army on several occasions. Spear and heavy troops, armor piercing missile troops (preferably crossbows), some artillery and a couple unit of cav to run down fleeing soldiers.
I feel like you should have seen that coming with the Mongols firing all the arrows in the world over the bridge, I think the entire army has bows for goodness sake. they had very little incentive to charge forward at all.
Why would you give them 40000??? Just take constantinopole..it would be fun
Take a shot of whiskey everytime Jon says "flipping"......see you in the ER
couple of things jon
1: dont bother with flaming arrows when fighting the mongols, the traits of their generals combined with the experience of their troops means they will not break anyway, those arrows wont help much
2: mercenary artillery is basicaly useless, stick with serpentines
3: get some sword staff militia and place them back to back behind your dismounted feudal knights, this way they are protected, whilst their spears mean they will still be able to fight the enemy from behind your knights
4: do not dismiss catapults to easily, placed correctly (like at the flanks in a bridge battle)they are just as deadly as cannons are, as in bridge battles range is less important
and for the love of god, STOP TARGETING MONGOL FOOT ARCHERS!!! they are the weakest troops the mongols have, and as it stands you do not have any spears to counter their cavalry, even if you get swordstaff militia you are at an disadvantage. Just bombard their cavalry, they are the units that matter in open field battles
Also hope your perception doesn't preclude you from noticing that Ragusa has plague... you might want to think about delaying your assault. You know, unless plague is your thing.
Use serpentines as well blah blah, bottle necks work both ways yadayada, position of forces etc etc, norse archers are early/mid game and the rest.
But let’s be honest, that unit of archers sent forward, who got reduced to 4 without even wavering are rivalling the peasants for MVP of this entire campaign.
I think the Mongol's artillery killed more Mongols than Jon's artillery.
That was a brilliant episode; real damn exciting, harkening back to the earlier episodes of this series. It was a brilliant battle, since the Mongol AI was really competent, and the fact that you could technically have won if you played your cards right. Also you befriending the Byzantines... Better and flipping better.
Jon you're terrible at artillery, artillery is great for city defenses because the thing with artillery is that it doesn't stop until it hits the ground (unless it bounces off) so you can wreak havoc through an enemy column by firing it straight down a street or a bridge. that is what you did wrong at the bridge battle against the mongols, if you placed your artillery straight at the end of the bridge you could've caused chaos. you're also making a mistake by not giving Antioch artillery.
spam serpentines, catapults and trebuchets. ribaults are crap
The actual proper "cannon" cannons are also good, used effectively. Bombards are really only for taking castles, should not be fielded in open battle unless absolutely necessary. The thing that bugs me the most is he knows, or at least he commented in an earlier part, that cannon are almost always on the right axis even if the shots go short or long.
Line them up with the enemy column you numpty!
Years from now historians will talk of the time in which the Danish Empire gave Byzantium half of the Danish GDP in exchange for an alliance.
You could've had the artilleries drop the weapon and leave the battlefield the moment they ran out of ammo. Such a wasteful sacrifice!
occurs to me. with that 1st bridge battle after the cannon had run dry on ammo, you could have slowly withdrawn those cannon so that they were already at the edge of map when you pulled out your general & salvaged a little bit more of that force.
That bridge battle was sooooooooooooooooooooo satisfying. After bridge battle after bridge battle where you double encircle the end and bottleneck them to death it was such a breath of fresh air. The Mongols switch up of tactics has made this series exciting again. :D
"I've made a friend!"
You've bought a friend Jon..
Always position arty in line with the bridge- lenthwise. That way you maximise lisses on the enemy throng on it and do not waste ammo shooting into the river when missing.
Anytime I see a "friend" in games like this, all I see is a future enemy.
A little advice for the next bridge battle against mongols,
fall back, dont stand at the beginnig of the bridge, they outrange you so if you do the thing that you did, you will be defeated every time,
fall back and let them come to you, as soon as they are about to exit the bridge, rush them with your infantry and hold them at their place, then bring your archers to start pelting them,
and place your artillery in a vertical line to them so that every shot kills multiple people,
this is the way to win bridge battles if enemy outranges you
I gotta say, watching Jon mess around with cannons like this makes me want to spend winter break playing Empire
THE GREAT BUMBLING IS OVER!
It's over Mongols I have the high ground!
I feel like you gave the Byzantine 40k to backstab You. Their reputation is dubious LOL
Although it was auto-resolved, wasn't the army that took Yerevan the one with the heroic peasants? Yet further Honours and Accolades to add to their illustrious career: unifying the Empire!
Been able to train Crossbowmen for centuries, refuses too, keeps complaining about Norse Archers being weak
(Gasp) The Mongols are FRENCH! They're retreating and going back to Asia!
40,000 florens later and Jon has made a new friend; hooray! Now watch them immediately betray him.
My strategy is blowing up the bridge and fleeing.
How long until Jon is at war with everyone again?
Byzantium and I are now best friends forever.
I distinctly remember that being said about the Venetians.
Love this series! Can’t wait to see how it ends and hopefully start a new empire.
I predict that like 3 turns after the alliance with the Byzantines he'll be betrayed
*Anxiously waiting for Frost
how scared is turkey right about now
Two Danish units fighting against half of the Mongol army.
Jon: 'If we can cause a mass rout...'
Yes, Jon, whatever you say :P
Ep 65 Failed Strategy Abridged Edition
I think every other time I've watched you try to bribe a reluctant party, you increase the amount until they get huffy and reject you entirely. Glad to see you, for once, succeed in buying uncertain friends!
Why would you not line up the artillery with the bridge?
Jon please clean up the rebel forces literally everywhere!!
Still waiting for Jon to kill the traitor general currently camped outside Rome.
You can't actually kill every rebel army in the world when you kill one another one pops up out of nothing
why does he always put his artillery at an angle to the bridge? if u line it up with the bridge catapults usually overshoot or undershoot, meaning u still hit the troops on the bridge. doing it sideways like this just means most of the shots fired will do nothing cos they'll hit the river in front or behind
'It's time for you to pull out, my good man.'
That's what she said.
You're now that one rich kid that buys his friends but everyone else hates him.
Jon's continued lack of understanding the Mongols target the weakest city hurts me personally. OF COURSE THEY'RE IGNORING ANITOCH - LOOK AT EDESSA
They're definitely not heading for Edessa - they've had plenty of chances to go towards the bridge that leads there and completely ignored it.
But you've been constantly shifting troops, it appears to be why they bumble, the moment they move one way you sure up your defences so they go somewhere else. If not Edessa they might be going for the army guarding it or even the weakened guard at Aleppo?
@Many A True Nerd Jon, for flip sake click on your faction logo in the lower right corner during battle to keep from losing track of your troops!
Byzantines are totaly coming for you now 😂
i love your lets play of total war medieval 2 as denmark
The battle prediction actually slightly favoured you, meaning that autoresolving would have had a decent chance of winning you the battle.
The Mongols are trying to unite with the Mongol force you just kicked out into the dessert, thats whats determining their pathing
You have expensive friends!
Maybe use more fire arrows? It looks like they were burning through your Dismounted Feudal knights without much trouble, unless Mongol archers are armor-piercing. But if a hit fire arrow is a kill regardless, using it against that mass at the end of the first bridge battle may have helped, along with the morale penalty.
Jon, all your executing and sacking will lead your alliance with the Byzantines to deteriorate incredibly quickly. your reputation is despicable, everyone will betray you the first chance they get because of how poor your reputation is. you just wasted 40K on an alliance that if you're super lucky will last 10 turns and you have an ally that hates you, has 40K to build several armies and has 3 neighbors they can fight including you.
big mistake, you could've spent that money on development and new forces
9:00 usually I hear this on a different website
Jon congrats for unifying the empire and making a new ally
Julianus Vatinius approves of your alliance :D
So glad I surrendered my king's chivalry for a generation (or two) and just took out the Mongols (and the Timurids) with assassins. :D
In my HRE campaign, the only chivalrous Emperor I've had was the one I started with. Gotta have those assassins to take out all the orthodox priests, imams, heretics, witches, merchants, and enemy assassins.
Penny C how is that possible. I've sent 10 star Assasins and barely get over 20% chance?
snowisthebestweather True. All of mine swiftly fall into dread... Assassinating is so much fun.
gargoyles9999 Sheer luck. The first family members are the hardest since they usually start with a 7-12% chance of success. My assassins were usually 2-4 stars at the beginning. I'll throw them all at the same one until I get a lucky hit to take them out, then build them up on the generic general with a much easier hit chance before throwing them at the next family member. If you get lucky and get the leader and heir first the replacements are almost never as well guarded. By the end, my remaining assassins are all 10 stars with at least 3 retinue. The catamite, courtesan, and exquisite blade.
gargoyles9999 Oh yeah! The Mongols took Antioch from me and settled it. I noticed that when a family member, heir, or leader was inside the city my assassination success chance went up almost 20%. They're much more lax on security when inside a city. :D
Sweepstake on how long until he accidentally declares war on the Byzantines?
Jon, you didn't make a friend, you bought a friend. Not quite the same thing.
i think you didnt get a new general because your army is full stacked and you physically cant create a new one
If you'd have thrown map information into the alliance negotiations you could've saved yourself at least 5,000 florins Jon.
great video Jon
If the Pope his willing to battle alongside you for Ragusa, you should totally gift him Ragusa.
Altough it has been fun to see why Jon does not understand the movement of the Mongols...Someone needs to tell him that THEY MOVE IN A GROUP. Meaning that if one army, even one that you chase off, gets ahead of the main groups, the main groups will chase after to where the newly battered army is. In the next episode we will see the army Jon defeated walk back towards the main groups.
The best way to make friends is to buy them!
Well Jon, if you can't make friends, Buy them instead. maybe the reason it was so expensive is because you're practically trying to make them ally with the Borg!
I think you are doing bridge battles wrong. Instead of being at the edge. have your archers so that they can barely hit the bridge. the way you are doing it with holding the bridge exit means they can stand on the opposite banks to hit you. if you start further back then you can move forward with your shorter range troops once the enemy engages.
rip commenting before finishing the video
Jon, if you buy your friends, they are no friends at all.
If they bumble around enough, is it possible for the Mongol generals to die of old age?
Thanks for the video!
Of course the Mongols in Battle 1 would stop where they did.
It's called Horse Archers.
I still don't understand why did he limit himself to ONLY train/retrain 2-3 at a time when he could have queued more than three units and turn by turn retrain them along the line.
There was someone in this episode bearing my name. Great empire btw.
I really do hate that artillery can't have a 'force fire' mode. Just something to aim at a spot rather than a target in particular as a sort of pre-sighted engagement.
Why do you need map information? Just demand territories in the diplomacy screen to seee what they got except their capital, and then cancel.
should have had a couple of serpentines their archers cannot outrange them and they will be forced to attack.
Has Jon ever mentioned that Caesarea is named after Caesar? His pronunciation seems to suggest it hasn't occurred to him and it bugs me every time he mentions it.
Make ur cannons withdraw when they run out of ammo so that way they could have made it off the battlefield and you could use them again
really dropped the ball on blocking their charge across the river crossing, pause man
Hey John what do you think about TW Teutonic Campaign? Will it come to the channel i the future?
oh wow, didn't think you could bribe high enough to stop the AI being so stubborn
Did the mongol army that was defeated at the ford just go rogue?!
Here so early it's not even on my subscriptions page yet.
Jon for president, 2020! :D
His foreign policy isn't great, though.
Jon for either Prime minister or King! If Trump can be become president, anything's possible.
You don't vote for kings. Hell I'm not even convinced the people's vote for PM is even considered.
I know this is months old, but i'll never understand why you'd use 40k for a useless alliance when you can steamroll any nation in the game.