There is a problem with the comparison of the Switch with the Wii, because the Wii did sold really well, however the sales started to drop pretty much since the beggining. The switch is the total oposite, it sold better and better every year, I think 2023 was the first year that the sales droped, and still is selling well, so it's not the same situation of the Wii at all. Still is probably not gong to sell more than the switch, no matter the name they choose, because a big part of the public is not going to buy a new switch, because they already have one, but I think there is a potential, specially if they have new cool games on launch.
The Wii u was poorly marketed, it lacked third party support and went on for long periods without first party Nintendo exclusives. But the switch is a different story, you gotta remember that Shuntaru Furukawa is a business man and runs the company much differently from Satoru Iwata. I'm confident that their next system will do just fine.
Litterly everyone i knew including myselfe thought that. You can even find people to this day trying to sell their Wii as "Wii U" cause they think their Wii is a Wii U simply cause they think its the same device. Just cause you are tech savy and know stuff like this there are alot of people even to this days they think a System with just a letter behind a System they know is the same thing. Its not a number which would indicate its a new generation but a Letter which usually indicates some kind of Accesory. @@PureBloodedwolf
There's a few key bits of history missing here. Every Ninendo home console has sold worse than it's predecessor, with the exception of the Wii. But the Wii's sales were a fluke, it sold well because the marketing appealed to a wide audience of CASUAL NON-GAMERS. People who passed up the Gamecube still didn't buy a Wii, but their parents and grandparents did! That's where all those sales came from, the Wii scratched a casual gaming itch that the general public had. But a year after the Wii came out, the iPhone was announced, which revolutionized cell phones and birthed mobile gaming. By the time of the Wii U, people could gettheir casual gaming fix for a few dollars - or even free - from the smart phone they already owned. The massive audience that bought the Wii was NEVER going to migrate over to the Wii U, it had very little to do with the bad marketing. Without the appeal to non-gamers, the Wii U was back on the same declining sales trajectory as the Gamecube, N64, and Super Nintendo. On the flipside, Nintendo's handhelds have always sold incredibly well, completely dominating the handheld market. They were affordable, durable, easy to develop for, and had great third party support. That is the reason why the Switch is successful; it's handheld first, a console second. It inherited the legacy and sales trajectory of the Gameboy and Nintendo DS. So the Switch 2 should be thought of less like the Wii U or Super Nintendo, and more like the Gameboy Advance or Nintendo 3DS. It will have 3rd party uspport, it will have Pokemon, it will sell well.
Great analysis! My concern as a consumer is that there are alot of decent options nowadays for gaming hardware. This may end up causing buying confusion for parents so the marketing needs to be easy to understand.
The real issue for Nintendo is that they can't afford a disastrous console. We have to remember - Nintendo won EVERY generation of handhelds, so a failed home console could always be offset by a successful handheld in the past. But these days, Nintendo has all their eggs in the hybrid basket. If the Switch successor is anywhere close to a Wii U disaster, the company could be in real trouble. Heck, even an N64 or GameCube level of failure would cause big problems. Granted, I think the chances of a failure are low (maybe 20%), but it certainly exists. Kn owing Nintendo, they could name it the Switch U.
@@therealmrarchive Define being "fine." Nintendo's stock price was hovering around $3/share at the peak of the Wii U disaster, and that was with the 3DS keeping the company afloat. If you really think Nintendo would be fine with two straight generations of hybrid consoles being a disaster with no successful dedicated handheld to offset that disaster, I think your exaggerating Nintendo's financial situation.
@@chad3232132There only the richest company in japan, when I say they would be fine, I mean Nintendo would still exist after a couple failed generations.
Switch 2 has much stiffer competition because of cellphones and handheld PCs. Cellphones are always getting bigger games and a larger library. Handheld PCs have the entire Windows library. Everything that made the switch unique is available on handheld PCs now. The handheld PC market is evolving insanely fast.
switch had success because there wasn't any competition at the time, but now it seems a bit redundant to launch a more powerful version of the thing because steam deck just exist, and very likely there will be a more powerful version of the steam deck when the switch 2 comes out. I just hope in the next generation nintendo just becomes more consumer friendly, because there's not point to have the burden of bad services just because they have 2 or 3 good exclusives.
Nice analysis and I think there’s a bit more hype and motion for success with the switch. The way that technology is pivoted now, handheld pcs are a nitch- market that not many people trust, Nintendo is a worldwide company with more reputation than anything else. These consumer products have a way to go and nintendo can still shine In any case, maybe my recommendations will show me more of you ;)
This is a good analysis, but it only examines possibilities, not probabilities. Nintendo learned from their mistakes with the Wii U, they have long been the smartest of the big three and they learn from their failures. It’s just a possibility, but it won’t happen. There’s no reason at all to suggest this would happen or that Nintendos momentum would suddenly stop.
This is very true. I should have been more clear in the video, but I never wanted to make a video detailing every pro/con and all the likely features of Switch 2. Instead, talking about the position Nintendo is in and bringing in the Wii U seemed a lot more fun to me.
There is a problem with the comparison of the Switch with the Wii, because the Wii did sold really well, however the sales started to drop pretty much since the beggining.
The switch is the total oposite, it sold better and better every year, I think 2023 was the first year that the sales droped, and still is selling well, so it's not the same situation of the Wii at all.
Still is probably not gong to sell more than the switch, no matter the name they choose, because a big part of the public is not going to buy a new switch, because they already have one, but I think there is a potential, specially if they have new cool games on launch.
The Wii u was poorly marketed, it lacked third party support and went on for long periods without first party Nintendo exclusives. But the switch is a different story, you gotta remember that Shuntaru Furukawa is a business man and runs the company much differently from Satoru Iwata. I'm confident that their next system will do just fine.
The issue with the Wii U was that people thought it's an addon instead of a new console. I don't think Switch 2 is that confusing.
I know nobody that thought that.
Litterly everyone i knew including myselfe thought that. You can even find people to this day trying to sell their Wii as "Wii U" cause they think their Wii is a Wii U simply cause they think its the same device. Just cause you are tech savy and know stuff like this there are alot of people even to this days they think a System with just a letter behind a System they know is the same thing. Its not a number which would indicate its a new generation but a Letter which usually indicates some kind of Accesory. @@PureBloodedwolf
There's a few key bits of history missing here. Every Ninendo home console has sold worse than it's predecessor, with the exception of the Wii. But the Wii's sales were a fluke, it sold well because the marketing appealed to a wide audience of CASUAL NON-GAMERS. People who passed up the Gamecube still didn't buy a Wii, but their parents and grandparents did! That's where all those sales came from, the Wii scratched a casual gaming itch that the general public had. But a year after the Wii came out, the iPhone was announced, which revolutionized cell phones and birthed mobile gaming. By the time of the Wii U, people could gettheir casual gaming fix for a few dollars - or even free - from the smart phone they already owned. The massive audience that bought the Wii was NEVER going to migrate over to the Wii U, it had very little to do with the bad marketing. Without the appeal to non-gamers, the Wii U was back on the same declining sales trajectory as the Gamecube, N64, and Super Nintendo.
On the flipside, Nintendo's handhelds have always sold incredibly well, completely dominating the handheld market. They were affordable, durable, easy to develop for, and had great third party support. That is the reason why the Switch is successful; it's handheld first, a console second. It inherited the legacy and sales trajectory of the Gameboy and Nintendo DS. So the Switch 2 should be thought of less like the Wii U or Super Nintendo, and more like the Gameboy Advance or Nintendo 3DS. It will have 3rd party uspport, it will have Pokemon, it will sell well.
Pretty sure the new console will be the Switch U, cuz second time's the charm.
Great analysis! My concern as a consumer is that there are alot of decent options nowadays for gaming hardware. This may end up causing buying confusion for parents so the marketing needs to be easy to understand.
The real issue for Nintendo is that they can't afford a disastrous console. We have to remember - Nintendo won EVERY generation of handhelds, so a failed home console could always be offset by a successful handheld in the past. But these days, Nintendo has all their eggs in the hybrid basket. If the Switch successor is anywhere close to a Wii U disaster, the company could be in real trouble. Heck, even an N64 or GameCube level of failure would cause big problems. Granted, I think the chances of a failure are low (maybe 20%), but it certainly exists. Kn owing Nintendo, they could name it the Switch U.
Good points!
Remember, Nintendo could fail the next 2 generations and be fine. They are swimming in money. Switch online alone brings in billions.
@@therealmrarchive Define being "fine." Nintendo's stock price was hovering around $3/share at the peak of the Wii U disaster, and that was with the 3DS keeping the company afloat. If you really think Nintendo would be fine with two straight generations of hybrid consoles being a disaster with no successful dedicated handheld to offset that disaster, I think your exaggerating Nintendo's financial situation.
@@chad3232132There only the richest company in japan, when I say they would be fine, I mean Nintendo would still exist after a couple failed generations.
You might’ve changed my outlook on a switch sequel anywho great video I subbed
Thank you!
I predict it’s going to be a hybrid dock+handheld+vr console.
Nintendo needs to bring dual screen gameplay back.
Interesting! I never thought of this before
Switch 2 has much stiffer competition because of cellphones and handheld PCs. Cellphones are always getting bigger games and a larger library. Handheld PCs have the entire Windows library. Everything that made the switch unique is available on handheld PCs now. The handheld PC market is evolving insanely fast.
NOW WE WILL HAVE A DOUBLE SCREEN 🤑🤑🤑
Hopefully it'll end up being Nintendo Focus
The Nintendo Focus is coming next.
Nintendo has to go next gen eventually its unavoidable and most likely will sell that the Switch the question is how much less
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That's awesome, thank you!
switch had success because there wasn't any competition at the time, but now it seems a bit redundant to launch a more powerful version of the thing because steam deck just exist, and very likely there will be a more powerful version of the steam deck when the switch 2 comes out.
I just hope in the next generation nintendo just becomes more consumer friendly, because there's not point to have the burden of bad services just because they have 2 or 3 good exclusives.
Parents aren’t buying their 8 year olds a steam deck.
steam deck is not Nintendo
Nice analysis and I think there’s a bit more hype and motion for success with the switch. The way that technology is pivoted now, handheld pcs are a nitch- market that not many people trust, Nintendo is a worldwide company with more reputation than anything else. These consumer products have a way to go and nintendo can still shine
In any case, maybe my recommendations will show me more of you ;)
That is definitely true!
This is a good analysis, but it only examines possibilities, not probabilities. Nintendo learned from their mistakes with the Wii U, they have long been the smartest of the big three and they learn from their failures. It’s just a possibility, but it won’t happen. There’s no reason at all to suggest this would happen or that Nintendos momentum would suddenly stop.
This is very true. I should have been more clear in the video, but I never wanted to make a video detailing every pro/con and all the likely features of Switch 2. Instead, talking about the position Nintendo is in and bringing in the Wii U seemed a lot more fun to me.
I'm not as worried about this being Wii U, part 2.
Nintendo does seem to learn it's lesson when it makes mistakes, so maybe they will this time.
steam deck exists nw
switch 2 will be redundant