Test of Resolve - Wargames Rules Review

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  • Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
  • My review of the ruleset for the War of the Roses period - Test of Resolve by Tim Couper & David Knight. David was kind enough to send me a copy of the core rules and one of the scenario books to review. They also invited me to take part in a zoom game so i could get a good feel for how the game played.
    Many thanks to David and Tim for giving me the chance to go through the rules and play a game with them.
    If you are intrested in checking out more about the game then the main website is: testofresolve.com/?v=79cba118...
    There is also more information and the chance to get questions answered on the facebook group here: / 748158095970079
    Timestamps:
    Introduction 00:00
    Overview 01:34
    The Cards 09:02
    Firing Example 16.44
    Melee Example 19.12
    Scenarios and Advanced Rules 24:59
    Final Thoughts 29:59
    Contact: 7thsonwargaming@gmail.com
    Music: Lord of the Land - Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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  • @lionheart6754
    @lionheart6754 2 роки тому +4

    Great review the rules seem interesting I like the use of cards in the game

  • @oldschoolfrp2326
    @oldschoolfrp2326 2 роки тому +4

    These rules seem to feel authentic to the period, with the organization of troops into three battles and the cards potentially causing units to not follow some orders. Seems worth a look

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Cheers mate, the cards a great mechanic, definitley mimics the ebb and flow of battle 👍

  • @peternicholson8049
    @peternicholson8049 2 роки тому +2

    Really helpful review. Helped clarify a few points in the rules for me. Thanks

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Thanks, glad you found it helpful 👍

  • @richardhawes2205
    @richardhawes2205 2 роки тому +2

    A really good review - and helpful 'how to play' - I bought the rules back in may and now feel ready to give them a bash. My only misgiving was the number of troops fielded but I guess it's a matter of basing so it really just boils down to asethetics. Thanks

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Thats how i look at it, a good solid ruleset and use the bases how you will 👍

  • @evilstu3177
    @evilstu3177 2 роки тому +4

    Aaaand... Purchased. Thanks for signal raising and for taking the time to do such a detailed review!

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      No problem mate, glad you enjoyed it 👍

  • @horuslupercal9936
    @horuslupercal9936 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing. I just became aware of these.

  • @paulspaintshed3511
    @paulspaintshed3511 2 роки тому +4

    Looks really good Martin. Includes a lot of mechanisms I like in rules. The cost is about average I would say for rule books these days and due to the smaller amount of figures required to field a force that will maybe offset the cost.

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers Paul, definitely some great mechanics, i really enjoyed the solo games i plaued amd the Zoom game with the authors 👍

  • @MiniatureRealms
    @MiniatureRealms 2 роки тому +2

    Great review video Martin, I’ve watched a couple of other videos about this game, but this provides the best understanding of the rules for me. Lots I like about this game, some interesting mechanics, like a few others I’m a little undecided on price, but I may well give it a go.

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Cheera bud, glad you found it helpful 👍

  • @JBurdoo
    @JBurdoo 2 роки тому

    Good to see! I picked up the rules in pdf last week and ordered a starter set of Wofun plexiglass figs to try them with. Haven't quite understood them yet, in part the difference between Resolve and Morale points and tracking them. I do like the card mechanism, though, and can see using at least parts of these rules even if I don't get much actual WotR in.

    • @davidknight5687
      @davidknight5687 2 роки тому

      Hi Jennifer - Resolve points are at company level and Morale Points at Battle level. Losing a resolve check after melee usually means that company routs. When Battle Morale points go negative a Battle Morale test can result in the loss of the entire battle.

  • @jodypaterson8624
    @jodypaterson8624 2 роки тому +4

    Really nice review. I’ll wait to see some of your battle reports to see how a full game looks, but this looks like a good WOTR system to pick up (smaller table and solo rules defo a plus). Cheers

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Nice one, thanks very mich. Glad you enjoyed the review, definitely worth giving a go, lots of fun 👍

  • @paulbenson9015
    @paulbenson9015 2 роки тому +3

    Thank You Martin, very informative look at these rules. I am intrigued by the solo potential, the card mechanisms certainly add some unpredictability. Might have to look a bit deeper. Great if you and Matt can show us a bat rep. Cheers👍

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it. We'll certainly try , probably after the current campiagn is over 👍

  • @MillersMiniatures
    @MillersMiniatures 2 роки тому +5

    A great review mate. Really like the look of the rules and I agree it's definitely more accessible in terms of amount of figures needed as it's same amount of figures used In NMTBH but obviously not figure removal but that's classedas a skirmish. But love the way the cards work it could make a game so brutal. Does look like a lot of book keeping what with having a moral dice next to the units and the battle moral. But look like good rules system and will definitely have to give it a go. Nice one mate 😁👍

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Alright dude, nice one, glad you enjoyed it 👍 we'll have a game when we have our P&S game

  • @RockinL7BuckingBulls
    @RockinL7BuckingBulls 2 роки тому +3

    Battle Report, Battle Report, BATTLE REPORT!

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Unfortunately had to cancel this weekends as we were waiting for the results of a covid test but all clear and hopefully have one next week 👍

    • @RockinL7BuckingBulls
      @RockinL7BuckingBulls 2 роки тому +1

      Well I hope it ( Covid test ) goes well. Your and the families health is far more important.

  • @leefisher6766
    @leefisher6766 2 роки тому +3

    The warwick livery guys are from the museum at Warwick castle, sure I have the photos somewhere? Sorry if already mentioned below.

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Ah excellent, thanks for the heads up 😁

  • @smoothbrush4722
    @smoothbrush4722 2 роки тому +2

    Nice rules

  • @conway5481
    @conway5481 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting rules. You may just have talked me into giving the wars of the roses a try

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому +1

      Nice one 👍 glad you found it helpful

    • @conway5481
      @conway5481 2 роки тому

      Yep I'm sold. Just finished my first base of Thomas Courtney Earl of Devon's bill and bow.

    • @davidknight5687
      @davidknight5687 2 роки тому

      @@conway5481 If you do intend to go with Test of Resolve be aware that bill and bow operate in separate companies

  • @jerseyowl
    @jerseyowl 2 роки тому +4

    Martin what are you doing to me? Ive recently ordered Beneath the Lily Banner (3) rules and shakos and bayonets rules for my upcoming birthday. After watching your review I decided I must have these rules too! . Lucky I have an understanding wife....

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Cheers bud 👍 glad you found the review helpful 😁

  • @rovens
    @rovens 2 роки тому +2

    These look interesting, 'card' driven games are my favourite type of activation but there's a few things about these that sound a little off to me. I do like the system for determining how many actions you'll get in your phase though, I haven't seen a deck implemented like that before.

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Thanks mate, the activation system is very unique 👍

  • @trinovante6083
    @trinovante6083 2 роки тому +2

    Hello there , what sort of sized units can you use ? My armies are 15mm and are all 24 figures strong, would they be too big for this game ? I also have quiet big armies , about sixty units a side ?
    mark

    • @davidknight5687
      @davidknight5687 2 роки тому

      Those are big armies! Bigger than we normally use but there is no real limit on the number of units per side. I would probably combine the units into 48s. If you buy the scenario books and want more units on the table than they list simply increase the numbers proportionally.

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      As David said that would be a large battle but not impossible 👍 would look really cool

  • @BootsontheTable
    @BootsontheTable 2 роки тому +1

    Good review Martin. Looks interesting but I am concerned about the cost. I take your point on SAGA but I have lots of opponents for that game, and so far no one to play this one! But may that will change. Interesting thanks

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому +1

      Very true 👍 these rules are new though and Saga has had 10 years or more to build a player base. When 1st edition came out, which i got on release it was a total punt not knowing if anyone would play. Part of the risk with new games i guess 😁 of course when i write my rules you'll get those staright away I'm sure 😜

    • @JBurdoo
      @JBurdoo 2 роки тому +2

      I have a similar issue in that I don't get to play much at all - maybe once a month with an adult group who already have their preferred rulesets, and honestly I can't remember ever seeing a medieval game at the club. I've been trying to pick on things that I'm actually likely to get to play - but the ability to play solo with the help of the cards attracted me.

    • @BootsontheTable
      @BootsontheTable 2 роки тому +1

      @@JBurdoo agreed the solo element is attractive

  • @blahblah-hw3xg
    @blahblah-hw3xg 2 роки тому +1

    I like the look of this rule system, it seems very fun and authentic, one question I have is do those cards allow much skill in the game, does being told your army has to charge hinder the tactics you want to use or is it still fairly skill based?

    • @davidknight5687
      @davidknight5687 2 роки тому

      Movement on a move and melee card is optional, but if you make contact melee is compulsory

    • @blahblah-hw3xg
      @blahblah-hw3xg 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidknight5687 Thank you!

  • @thunder5496
    @thunder5496 2 роки тому +1

    What are the best books to read to get an understanding of actual period combat rather than the glossy spectacular Hollywood version we are fed?

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому +1

      Id recommend Richard III and the Battle of Bosworth by Mike Ingram and The Battle of Edgcote - 1469: Re-Evaluating the Evidence by Graham Evans. While they are both specific to individual battles they both do a brilliant job at describing the way the armies would fight

  • @christophernelson1933
    @christophernelson1933 Рік тому +1

    How did the rules work with your basing system (The 60 X 40 bases)?

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  Рік тому

      It works absolutely fine, had no problems👍

  • @nicolairavn2563
    @nicolairavn2563 9 місяців тому +1

    Rules seem heavily inspired by Field of Battle by Piquet

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  9 місяців тому +1

      Can't say I'm familiar with those but I'll have a look into them 👍

    • @nicolairavn2563
      @nicolairavn2563 9 місяців тому +1

      They are actually quite good with an excellent built in campaign system. Covers ECW-Anglo-Sudan. But alas, now you have me trying Test of Resolve!

  • @stevetimjim8534
    @stevetimjim8534 2 роки тому +1

    Did one D12 make results a bit swingy? Thanks 👍

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      I thougjt it migjt to begin with but actaully with the various modifiers and situational rules it narrowed quite a bit, i found it pretty refreshing

  • @stevelille54
    @stevelille54 Рік тому

    Just got these off the back of this vid

  • @Edward-Plantagenet
    @Edward-Plantagenet 6 місяців тому +1

    Looks like you never found the time (or maybe inclination?) to do a battle report of these. I've looked at these, along with NMTBH, but neither, esp the latter (which I see as more of a WOTR flavoured skirmish set rather than WOTR specific) seem to provide any more of a period feel above Hail Caesar. I'm generally not fond of the random nature of card driven games either.

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  5 місяців тому +1

      So I did film a game and then I lost all the footage and just never had the time to do it again, it takes a while to film them and then edit so I lost about 7 hours of work 😕

  • @asgaard636
    @asgaard636 Рік тому +1

    Are units in this game generally comprised of two bases?

  • @stigofthedump181
    @stigofthedump181 2 роки тому +2

    I wonder if i could use my 6mm stuff for this?..?

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому +1

      Definitely, on the FB group there are people already doing so, maybe just swap inches for cm 👍

    • @davidknight5687
      @davidknight5687 2 роки тому +1

      Have a look on the Facebook group and search on Richard Hill - he has some great looking game reports and a knack for conveying a sense of excitement in his battles, which are solo games and in 6mm

    • @stigofthedump181
      @stigofthedump181 2 роки тому

      So i ordered the the rules, they look very interesting.

    • @davidknight5687
      @davidknight5687 2 роки тому

      @@stigofthedump181 Thanks for the order

  • @richardbradley2335
    @richardbradley2335 2 роки тому +1

    What did you think of NMBillhooks rules? ....seem popular

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      I like it but its more of a skirmish ruleset with a wotr flavour, still goos fun though 👍

  • @john-lenin
    @john-lenin Рік тому +1

    So when do we see a battle report?

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  Рік тому

      I may do one in the next couple of months, if i can fit it in. I have quite a few games lined up for various things so if i can slot it in i will 👍

  • @TryChillBalloo
    @TryChillBalloo 2 роки тому +1

    Would be grat to see how the "singleplayer" version plays out.

    • @davidknight5687
      @davidknight5687 2 роки тому

      There are some examples of solo games on the Facebook group that you might find interesting

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      If i get a chance then I'll film the next one i do as well 👍

  • @TryChillBalloo
    @TryChillBalloo 2 роки тому +3

    Would be great if you would go deep into the rules when you have your games, so we learn the system by watching

    • @7thson726
      @7thson726  2 роки тому

      Cheers mate, i will do as much as i can 👍