Well the best way is to compare the official weights. For the F87 M2 Comp it is 1650 kg (EU) and for the G87 M2 Auto it is 1800 kg (EU). EU weight= 75 kg included for Driver (68kg) and luggage (7gk). So the G87 ist 150 kg heavier. Official weight for OG F87 M2 is 1595 kg (EU)
@@Lars._That thing is gorgeous. I hope they produce it. I would pay a fortune for that car if it has the m4/m3 i6, or even the detuned one from this m2.
@@DexxonGamer77 yeah I always wonder why manufacturers don’t produce a lot of their beautiful one-offs, another example: the Lamborghini Estoque why not? 1000 times better than a Urus
The old M2 as well as the F20/F21 it's based on were also based on the same construction kit as the F30/F32(3/4 Series). (The new M2 gen shares more common parts with the M3/M4 than the old one did though) The whole F Gen was just a lot lighter than the G series(3/4), which is just derived from the CLAR platform, BMW introduced with the G30. So the current 3 series is just a chopped down 5 series hence it's why it is so heavy and big compared to F series 3/4.
100-200km/h in 8.5 sec is really fast. Neck and neck with a g80 M3 comp xdrive, faster than the C63 S and Alfa Giulia QV, and almost a whole second faster than the new rs3
So I daily drive an X5 M50i and the G87 is a discount M4, which is exactly what I was looking for the weekends. So for me, the M2 makes perfect sense. Lease payments on the G87 are about half of the G82 at the moment.
Don’t know what you’re complaining about. This car performs like a M4, looks much better compared to a M4 and costs much less than this. Great deal for the customer 👍
Well done for spotting the head / tail lights - no-one else has that I have seen. I have an M2 on order. I don’t want an M4 - too big and that grill which I cannot forgive. If you’re telling me this is basically the same an M4 but in an M2 package then that for me is a bonus. I’m glad they’ve done that. I don’t want an M2 thats less than this. The facelift version has more BHP too. Thanks for the review.
For the triangles going on with the new models , I believe they’re trying to also date the cars into the future by adding some futuristic elements in them. This also reflects in the angular designs too. This generation of M2 will age nicely.
Personally I think the “new M2s” biggest issue is that the old one was so good. I haven’t been lucky enough to drive either the new one or the old one, so take my thoughts with a huge grain of slat. I don’t hate the looks of the new M2, it is just that the old one was prettier to the point of being close to visual perfection, one of the all time prettiest BMWs, with the likes of the E46 M3 (in my opinion). The rear seat is there, but according to what have seen, heard and read, the old one had a much more usable backseat with more headroom. I actually like the older iDrive system more than the new ones, I think the bigger screens just isn’t for me and I don’t find them esthetically pleasing while I don’t really care all that much about having a larger screen, because when I drive my cars I drive. Again the new M2 isn’t bad and I like it, but the old one was just so good that it is “better”. But I probably some what controversially, prefer a good modern torque converter automatics to a DCT, modern Automatics are capable of very quick shifts and more livable / less jerky at fine maneuvering at crawling speeds.
I had the honor to drive an M2 CS (previous gen, obviously) for two days and they are divine to drive. Pure bliss. I had an absolute blast and drove more than 2000km in those two days, lol. They look amazing, too, much nicer than this one in my opinion. The reason I got to drive it is because my car was in for repairs and they didn't have a loaner anymore, while my contract states they are obligated to provide one. I know the guy who owns that dealership a bit and so he let me borrow their M2 CS show car as a loaner, after which I immediately called my work and told them I wouldn't be coming in for two days of course. I've driven quite a few very fast cars, a bunch of them faster than an M2 CS, but still that one remains one of the most engaging and fun driving experiences so far, except for the 991.2 Porsche 911 GT3 and a (tuned) Lotus Elise set up for track use
Im still on the fence about this. I feel its a good platform for tuning especially bodykits. I like the way the front and side profiles look, especially that square bumper, and rear arches. However, the rear is just terrible. I cant stand the tailights or those squared off edges in the rear bumper. However, the largest problem is the weight. I cant get around this small Car weighing more then a v10 M5. I just cant imagine it driving as good as the old m2 or 1m with that weight. The largest problem, you can get a m2cs with under 5k kilometers for the price of a well speccd m2, and the old m2cs is 10x the Car. Same power, 200kg less, and gorgeous in my opinion.
I’d be interested to know which M2 you think is the one to buy and keep and which gearbox. Drove an N55 manual car and really liked it and also really liked the DCT comp
I am picking up my BMW M2 2025 on Monday Nov 25. I have a 2021 M2 right now. I am not happy that they are doing away with the manual. That is all I drive
Went to dealer yesterday to see if it fits me. Light blue specimen was parked next to black M3 and M4, did not even look at those, only had eyes for the M2. Was lucky to get a test drive and oh man, I never owned a performance car so, easy to impress I guess, but wow so good. Test car had the bucket seats which is not for my 6ft 9" bone structure. Also sat in the normal seats and that's also tight but hey I'm also like all the sinners reading this, also have needs, no pain no gain. Love the M5 but G87 M2 is best buy out there, can buy one and something for the wife for the price of an M5, and everone is happy
@AutoTopNL maybe a good video for the future would be the new G87 M2 before and after racechip installation. That would be very interesting… 👌👌 Love the videos ❤️
I hope BMW pays a little more for a custom display fitted inside a binnacle. I realize though that this single display kind of tossed up on the dash saves them a ton of money.
The dash is too distracting to have a car that can go that speed, it's not a USS enterprize you need to focus on the road to get the most enjoyment from this fast car but that dash is dangerous as
17:57 Damn Dutch people driving 100km/h everywhere they go, including abroad, lol. I see it in Belgium constantly as well. Yes, I know, it's completely legal. It interrupts the flow of the traffic so much if the official speed in the country is higher than that though. I don't know why they have all of the sudden decided to drive at that speed abroad, too. I'm Dutch as well but I drive in Belgium and Germany frequently and it's really annoying. If in Belgium or Germany you see an entire row of cars one behind the other driving 100km/h, you can bet money on it that there will be a Dutch car driving in front holding everyone up because our new (way too slow) maximum speed of 100km/h in the Netherlands has apparently now become the maximum speed in all countries or something
You need to stop killing bugs, look at the front bumper 🙂 Just like the F22/f87 you do feel like you seat heigh but I think it's just a feeling from the good visibility out.
Al principio tuve dudas al verlo pero cuanto más lo voy viendo más me conquista. Me tiene enamorado, el color me encanta es precioso. Que impotencia no poder tener un coche, es una tortura para la gente como nosotros (discapacitados) no tener coche. No poder salir de casa durante años por no tener dinero.
Driven both G87 and G42, I think the M240i without xDrive is more fun and a better daily. It has less traction which means you have a way tailhappier rear end. But it can be very quiet without any drama and an acceptable fuel economy. The M2 is a head turner, you never fly under the radar. It is too perfect for everyday fun due to the strong and grippy M4 rear internals, but therefore a lot more suitable for proper track action. Both can be equally comfortable though in my opinion. So my choice would be: Fun = G42 M240i Performance = G87
I would go for a manual M4, prefer the exterior styling, doorcards on the M2 look cheap and you miss out on the Full Merino leather. You can also get the buckets with some great colours. Finally the hood is so high and flat in the M2, when I testdrove it, it felt like I was driving a tank
I think the triangles are bmws design language. Almost like lamborghini and their hexagons. I mean if you look at all concept bmws they all showcase triangles for some reason
Sorry Brother but You loose one point for a tunnel fail (Guy Rule Number 7 you must roll the window down and punch it in any and all tunnels). Great vid
This car has had so much hate for its looks, but I instantly fell in love with it the moment that I saw it. Dream car for sure!
I personally love the look of this car.
this is the realistic dream car the real dream is the GT3
@@jakejasperfox8368 I agree!
@jakejasperfox8368 I mean I will def be getting one of these but I my country they go for 70k-100k so def a pretty penny
@@No4h_1500 used one you can get for 50 which is not that bad really
The actual weight difference between this and f87 comp is 70kg , M2 f87 competition is 1655kg on a scale with full tank.
Yeah,my M2C was 1650kg without full tank 😅
Yea 200kg seemed unreasonable.
OG M2 is around 1560kg
@@Dokepredator 1600kg with full tank
Well the best way is to compare the official weights. For the F87 M2 Comp it is 1650 kg (EU) and for the G87 M2 Auto it is 1800 kg (EU). EU weight= 75 kg included for Driver (68kg) and luggage (7gk). So the G87 ist 150 kg heavier. Official weight for OG F87 M2 is 1595 kg (EU)
I'll be honest, I'm glad you said it's similar to the M4. Kind of want one just because of that.
Still the best looking new bmw I've seen yet.
Way to lay the bait!
Ever seen the pictures of the Z4 touring concept coupé?
Honestly, once i got used ot it. I like it! All they should do is just fix the weight problem.
@@Lars._That thing is gorgeous. I hope they produce it. I would pay a fortune for that car if it has the m4/m3 i6, or even the detuned one from this m2.
@@DexxonGamer77 yeah I always wonder why manufacturers don’t produce a lot of their beautiful one-offs, another example: the Lamborghini Estoque why not? 1000 times better than a Urus
The old M2 as well as the F20/F21 it's based on were also based on the same construction kit as the F30/F32(3/4 Series). (The new M2 gen shares more common parts with the M3/M4 than the old one did though) The whole F Gen was just a lot lighter than the G series(3/4), which is just derived from the CLAR platform, BMW introduced with the G30. So the current 3 series is just a chopped down 5 series hence it's why it is so heavy and big compared to F series 3/4.
This car looks sick in the rear-view mirror
Right? It was that moment when i thought: wow that looks sick 🔥
m2 in matte grey looks badass. the extreme body lines look more pronounced and give it such a mean look.
Tuning potentials are crazy with this chassis ❤
I like the appearance of this 2 series. At least the grille is well proportioned
100-200km/h in 8.5 sec is really fast. Neck and neck with a g80 M3 comp xdrive, faster than the C63 S and Alfa Giulia QV, and almost a whole second faster than the new rs3
That's not really fast. my OG M2 stage2 with N55 engine did 9sec flat to 100-200kmpu.
Fast is under 7sec
@@tinodeblier5694stage 2 bruh. It's stock.
@@currycel470 have only a intercooler downpipe and remap on my M2 f87
This S58 in the new M2 is seriously downtuned for my opinium.
Don’t compare this with the Giulia qv, they are very different
Yeah I'd say this is fast! It's bone stock, stage 2 this and well......let's see🙄
best car now you can buy. it has so much road presence. crazy
i absolutely love mine but if i had one complaint, the gearing in the six speed is veryyy long. so it actually feels slower than the ZF imo.
The felling seeing it in real life is wayyy betterr!!!
disagree saw one today, still prefer the old cs much more
same@@joaoruxa
"late to the party" but still the only review I wanna watch 💪🏼
So I daily drive an X5 M50i and the G87 is a discount M4, which is exactly what I was looking for the weekends. So for me, the M2 makes perfect sense. Lease payments on the G87 are about half of the G82 at the moment.
The review I was waiting for 🔥🔥🔥🔥😍
Mine just arrived today in Toronto red with track pack, and manual ofcourse!
You 'ré Lucky.enjoy your drive
Perfect spec ❤
@@philippelemaire2887 Thank you, goes so well!
@@valentingarampon3679 Most definitely!
Is the manual OK?
Don’t know what you’re complaining about.
This car performs like a M4, looks much better compared to a M4 and costs much less than this.
Great deal for the customer 👍
What a lovely boat
I ordered one in Toronto Red with Track Pack, cant wait 🙌🏻
This might be my favorite BMW since e92 m3.
Well done for spotting the head / tail lights - no-one else has that I have seen. I have an M2 on order. I don’t want an M4 - too big and that grill which I cannot forgive. If you’re telling me this is basically the same an M4 but in an M2 package then that for me is a bonus. I’m glad they’ve done that. I don’t want an M2 thats less than this. The facelift version has more BHP too. Thanks for the review.
the proper way to review - excellent
10:27 i just find it so funny the way he says "Horsiees :D What's up??"
For the triangles going on with the new models , I believe they’re trying to also date the cars into the future by adding some futuristic elements in them. This also reflects in the angular designs too. This generation of M2 will age nicely.
Personally I think the “new M2s” biggest issue is that the old one was so good.
I haven’t been lucky enough to drive either the new one or the old one, so take my thoughts with a huge grain of slat.
I don’t hate the looks of the new M2, it is just that the old one was prettier to the point of being close to visual perfection, one of the all time prettiest BMWs, with the likes of the E46 M3 (in my opinion).
The rear seat is there, but according to what have seen, heard and read, the old one had a much more usable backseat with more headroom.
I actually like the older iDrive system more than the new ones, I think the bigger screens just isn’t for me and I don’t find them esthetically pleasing while I don’t really care all that much about having a larger screen, because when I drive my cars I drive.
Again the new M2 isn’t bad and I like it, but the old one was just so good that it is “better”.
But I probably some what controversially, prefer a good modern torque converter automatics to a DCT, modern Automatics are capable of very quick shifts and more livable / less jerky at fine maneuvering at crawling speeds.
بي ام دبليو ....اوقفت المصمم العراقي الذي صمم ام 2 القديمة ...الجميلة ...اعيدوه ارجوكم
I had the honor to drive an M2 CS (previous gen, obviously) for two days and they are divine to drive. Pure bliss. I had an absolute blast and drove more than 2000km in those two days, lol. They look amazing, too, much nicer than this one in my opinion. The reason I got to drive it is because my car was in for repairs and they didn't have a loaner anymore, while my contract states they are obligated to provide one. I know the guy who owns that dealership a bit and so he let me borrow their M2 CS show car as a loaner, after which I immediately called my work and told them I wouldn't be coming in for two days of course. I've driven quite a few very fast cars, a bunch of them faster than an M2 CS, but still that one remains one of the most engaging and fun driving experiences so far, except for the 991.2 Porsche 911 GT3 and a (tuned) Lotus Elise set up for track use
Im still on the fence about this. I feel its a good platform for tuning especially bodykits. I like the way the front and side profiles look, especially that square bumper, and rear arches. However, the rear is just terrible. I cant stand the tailights or those squared off edges in the rear bumper. However, the largest problem is the weight. I cant get around this small Car weighing more then a v10 M5. I just cant imagine it driving as good as the old m2 or 1m with that weight. The largest problem, you can get a m2cs with under 5k kilometers for the price of a well speccd m2, and the old m2cs is 10x the Car. Same power, 200kg less, and gorgeous in my opinion.
New platform is a 1/4 1/2 mile drag strip setup
@@James__bond007that's all that people care about nowadays
test drive it.
Go and buy it then!
Fantastic car🎉 I will buy one in the next weeks!
7:30 these seats are optional, as far as I remember from configuring one. You can opt for even more extreme seats.
He mentioned this much earlier in the video already
Please dont review cars when you're in such a bad mood man. It's a masterpiece - you just was having bad foggy day in the Netherlands. Cheers
He didn’t say anything wrong about the car? If anything he was being generous despite its bad looks he claimed he liked the design.
just love the reviews
You put hate on every new BMW 😂 let's be happy that there are still such cars available. In 10 years we will miss those cars...
what action camera do you use? Video quality is awesome!
I’d be interested to know which M2 you think is the one to buy and keep and which gearbox. Drove an N55 manual car and really liked it and also really liked the DCT comp
RWD manual
I'd still have that off in my 520D msport 63 plate, with new Euro car part wipers.
I like the looks it has so much road presence, imo looks better than M4
This is the best M ever .
The patience I have had up until this video was released 😂
I am picking up my BMW M2 2025 on Monday Nov 25. I have a 2021 M2 right now. I am not happy that they are doing away with the manual. That is all I drive
Deze video’s zijn rust gevend ga zo door en rij voorzichtig🙏🏽
Max we love you for your honesty and sincerity. ❤
You were the reason to buy a Boxster 4cylinder. 😅
I had massive prejudices but now I love it.
The best launch control is a good driver's left foot operating a clutch pedal.
The problem with that m240i is that you have a open rooftop and it doesn't have the sporttyres. I guess then it would be much better
brilliant german bullet!
Love your reviews
I saw an M2 at the dealership, then looked for an m2 autotop video on youtube. It is the exact car that is for sale. € 89.750 @ Story Nijmegen.
my m2 just arrived . need to get some paper works done before collecting it. cant wait.
Wow what a beauty
Lmao i love when you rant about the triangles
Went to dealer yesterday to see if it fits me. Light blue specimen was parked next to black M3 and M4, did not even look at those, only had eyes for the M2. Was lucky to get a test drive and oh man, I never owned a performance car so, easy to impress I guess, but wow so good. Test car had the bucket seats which is not for my 6ft 9" bone structure. Also sat in the normal seats and that's also tight but hey I'm also like all the sinners reading this, also have needs, no pain no gain. Love the M5 but G87 M2 is best buy out there, can buy one and something for the wife for the price of an M5, and everone is happy
The F87 M2 comp was seen as a improved smaller version of the F82 as well. They were also around the same weight as well. Same concept
Its obviously one of the best allaround cars right now, but the weight and the looks are a bit of a problem.
@AutoTopNL maybe a good video for the future would be the new G87 M2 before and after racechip installation. That would be very interesting… 👌👌 Love the videos ❤️
Amazing car!
the last shorter 3er was the compact, great car if in blue and m sport
I hope BMW pays a little more for a custom display fitted inside a binnacle. I realize though that this single display kind of tossed up on the dash saves them a ton of money.
Smurf blue 💙
I'm thinking about it Max! 🤔👍🏾
I think CCB’s will be offered in a competition version or CS
and that's why i will buy only the M240i much better all around 👍 and bang for your back 🏆thank you B58 with stage one 💥🚀
Epic 😍
beautiful small beast, the last of the last...
Be careful when going that fast through a blind corner at 17:00.
Another truck could be overtaking there, leaving no room for you.
Good brakes😂
Will this have a competition package?
The dash is too distracting to have a car that can go that speed, it's not a USS enterprize you need to focus on the road to get the most enjoyment from this fast car but that dash is dangerous as
What a great sounding car 😂 The new C23 doesn't deserve the C63 badge, this M2 is also not an M2. Shame on both manufacturers!
17:57 Damn Dutch people driving 100km/h everywhere they go, including abroad, lol. I see it in Belgium constantly as well. Yes, I know, it's completely legal. It interrupts the flow of the traffic so much if the official speed in the country is higher than that though. I don't know why they have all of the sudden decided to drive at that speed abroad, too. I'm Dutch as well but I drive in Belgium and Germany frequently and it's really annoying. If in Belgium or Germany you see an entire row of cars one behind the other driving 100km/h, you can bet money on it that there will be a Dutch car driving in front holding everyone up because our new (way too slow) maximum speed of 100km/h in the Netherlands has apparently now become the maximum speed in all countries or something
You need to stop killing bugs, look at the front bumper 🙂
Just like the F22/f87 you do feel like you seat heigh but I think it's just a feeling from the good visibility out.
Al principio tuve dudas al verlo pero cuanto más lo voy viendo más me conquista.
Me tiene enamorado, el color me encanta es precioso.
Que impotencia no poder tener un coche, es una tortura para la gente como nosotros (discapacitados) no tener coche.
No poder salir de casa durante años por no tener dinero.
So gorgeous
are you guys gonna review the new fiesta ST? would be cool to see it the last time
Fiesta :)
Artık video başında verileri vermiyorsunuz neden
I ordered the seats on mine, dummy loaded. I believe the carbon is delaying cars as I just went back to order received from being scheduled
Is that shift sound normal?
Driven both G87 and G42, I think the M240i without xDrive is more fun and a better daily. It has less traction which means you have a way tailhappier rear end. But it can be very quiet without any drama and an acceptable fuel economy. The M2 is a head turner, you never fly under the radar. It is too perfect for everyday fun due to the strong and grippy M4 rear internals, but therefore a lot more suitable for proper track action. Both can be equally comfortable though in my opinion. So my choice would be: Fun = G42 M240i
Performance = G87
True. But the M2 is way betterin terms of resell value.
There it is, been looking out for this! Very cool, guys. Gotta review this bad boy myself one day…
Will there be a cs version coming?
This graphics much better then in new Forza Mototorsport =)
I would go for a manual M4, prefer the exterior styling, doorcards on the M2 look cheap and you miss out on the Full Merino leather. You can also get the buckets with some great colours. Finally the hood is so high and flat in the M2, when I testdrove it, it felt like I was driving a tank
I think the triangles are bmws design language. Almost like lamborghini and their hexagons. I mean if you look at all concept bmws they all showcase triangles for some reason
I want to buy a 718 GTS 4.0, but this is catching my eye to, which one should I buy?
Always Porsche
5:29 it gives a 2069 vibe in my opinion
is it possible to gen the power of an m3 or m4 ? i mean the basics are the same, so why not? :D
Its Amazing 🎉
Sorry Brother but You loose one point for a tunnel fail (Guy Rule Number 7 you must roll the window down and punch it in any and all tunnels). Great vid
Objectively the G87 is the better car compared to the F87.
But I had more fun driving the F87. It is what it is.
And the F87 looks amazing this just does not
Could you make a review on the new electric car called zeekr 001?
Nice
Great car, great video, great watch I have the same one lol but eventually the band will gets yellowish 😂
I wonder how much quicker this would be 100-200 with the lighter M3 or M3 CS wheels. That time is pretty close to the X-Drive Competition.
Amazing looking m2
NICE 👌💪😎👍
While it's popular with most fans, I'm not a big fan of the new dash. I prefer them to be integrated
I prefer the M2 CS. More beautiful.
Im sure once they release the M2 Competition carbon ceramics will be available
I use the rear seats😢 9:08
Precious
Gotta love people's driving in Germany. In Canada there's always more people in the left lane than the right lane. Too much ego in North America.
I wait this m2 in autobahn
BMW M440i or M2? Both cars cost the same. M2 is smaller but has more hp. What do you think?