How Harwin Strong became Breakbones (House of the Dragon)
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2023
- A Song of Ice and Fire / HotD / Game of Throne lore explained
House Strong of Harrenhal's heir, Ser Harwin
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That part where you compared Harwin, Criston and Daemon to Gregor, Barristan and Oberyn was cool as hell. Time is a cycle
Honestly nobody compares to the freaking mountain when it comes to his stature and build only person i can think of is hordor
@@steadydropnem Maelys the Monstrous is a close one, he killed a horse with a single punch and ripped his cousin's head off with his bare hands. Also Greatjon Umber, he is basically Hodor if he was more trained for battle.
Right! The Wheel of Time turns, and ages come and pass lol
Excuse me ? How dare you compare Christmas coleslaw to the legendary red viper
More like Robert
Daemon can't be king through Rhaenyra. When she ascends, he'll be king consort. The crown can only be inherited through blood, not marriage. That's why Cersei claiming the throne was so egregious.
Doesn't matter he has so much more sway over the game and Rhea that he would be the true ruler.
He'd still be in control
He's the kings brother, her uncle and the original heir. It would still be through blood.
Robert made his claim through some Targ ancestor in his family. Daemon has a claim by blood.
@@mesa577 you clearly underestimate Rhaenyra... Stay tuned...
Wish we had more of him he seemed like a decent guy not to common in Westeros
What do you mean? There's plenty of decent dudes in Westeros, but we only see the best and the worst around the show, cause they're the characters who are center stage.
@@thalmoragent9344in a society in which men are seen as so much above to women, I scarcely doubt there was that many “decent” dudes. Just ok ones at best.
@@hi-ls6lt
So you're saying that men couldn't ve decent even back in those days? What about the farmer guy that Arya and the Hound met?
Or the traveler Jamie told Brienne he'd have to kill, what do you know about him. Laenor? He was a good man, even Daemon respected that he was "a good man and a fine knight", and we could go on. Daeron the Daring is often regarded as a solid kid as well
Ned Stark wasn't an evil man by any means, we could go on.
Keep in mind, someone's interactions with the opposite sex isn't the only indicator of their personality. Yes, women in 95% of Westeros had little rights, doesn't mean all the men are guilty of abuses that some other men may do.
Just cause women in Dorne have more rights than other women in Westeros doesn't suddenly make all Dornish men "decent dudes", does it? Keep that in mind as well
This is retarded logic.
@@thalmoragent9344 modern sensibilities man
Harwin absolutely leering at her when she comes back all bloody😂 He’s like “fuck yeah, now that’s a woman” And also my other favorite Breakbones moment is the little nod that his father gives him at the wedding, when Criston is going all….murdery on Joffrey, just like, “Do your thing, son,” and Harwin just like starts tossing dudes out of his path😂 grabs Rhaeneyra and throws her over his shoulder so she can’t get trampled or crushed; I mean Millie Alcock is quite tiny so it’s not like it’s a huge deal but yeah she could be trampled to death, it’s a real threat and Harwin just demolishes a path to her and gets her out of trouble; I’d fall in love with him, too😂
I think harwin is more comparable to Robert than the mountain in body type
yea if Harwin was like 8 feet tall I feel like that would've been mentioned at least once.
and in genes xDD remember the mother of Gendry ?
I wish he had more screentime, he was fun.
If they gave him more screentime he'd be broken bones
What Viserys and Rhaenyra didnt understand is...even if Rhaenyra did become queen, the lords, including Damon wouldnt have allowed bastards to be Kings when there were true born pure blood Targayreans
I have wondered several times, since reading F&B, if the war had never happened- how would Daemon feel knowing his trueborn sons & daughters were only going to inherit _after_ three bastards- yes, two of them became his good-sons (sons-in-law)- so the children his daughters have with them are also tied to him by blood, but where does that leave Young Aegon & Young Viserys?
Surely Daemon- the man who according to GRRM, is 'Equal parts light & dark'- would contemplate the matter?
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
In HOTD it was obvious that Rhaenyra and Harwin loved each other,
this is so relaxing you should just do an read through of fire and blood or atleast everything thats going to be covered in season2
They did him dirty. Wish we could have seen more of him.
I couldn't get over the fact that Lyonel looks more like a third brother than the father
You mean “Broken Bones”
Fun Fact: The dual role of Jason and Tyland Lannister on The House of the Dragon is played by the same actor who played the role of Ser Hugh(the squire that was Knighted by Ser John Arryn shortly before John's death. Ser Hugh was murdered at "The Hand's Tourney" celebrating Eddard Stark's appointment to the office of Hand of the King during Robert's reign.)on Game of Thrones.
I remember now, Ned talked to him because he was quickly made into a knight after Jon Arryn died. And then he got his throat pierced in the joust
i liked Harwin Strong, he was hard and strong.
First to take the Black!!!
Damn it! You beat me to it!! 😊
@@carastone3473 lol
Can you make a video on scenes that was different in the books compared to the show? I like the show but I never read any of the books and I like seeing how different (and sometimes better) they are in the books. ( Game of thrones, not House of the Dragon)
Ayo, why ask this in a HotD video? 😅 I guess you could but, that whole paragraph till the last sentence made it seem like you wanted to know more about the Dance.
@@thalmoragent9344 most youtubers only check the comments on their recent video, so i commented to increase the chances of him seeing it. and he has hundreds of videos so i doubt he checks them all
a video of the most famous person from each house
He’s a great dad too!
Adapting this relatively small section of Fire and blood into HOTD was never going to be easy. The writers have managed to incorporate some of Mushroom's version of events and really, none of the 3 versions of this history can be trusted. Even though the book highly favours the Greens, the reader reads between the lines, so I suspect most of us were team Black.
HOTD S1 did make some dreadful mistakes and frankly was not as impactful as GoT S1, at least for non book readers.
I thought the book was actually quite down the middle, it wasn't as pro green as you night assume
Didn't the book paint both teams horribly? Neither rhae nor aegon were remembered fondly in history after all
Honestly bad take
@@Janary08it did but it still came off as the greens usurping the blacks
Here’s your answer: 2:09-2:16
Can you also make a video showing how he became Brokenbones 😂sorry, I had to say it as a Ser Criston apologist
Based Criston
You are doing a great job making videos of a song of ice and fire
But the audio need to get better
And when you talk you whistle too much
I hope you take my advice
Oberyn wasn't a swordsman but, with a Spear.. he was unmatched. Just like they did with Barristan Selmy where he makes the minor threat of "I could cut through all five of you like carving a cake" Would've been very much been a scary thing to be told.. Because any and everyone knew even at his age.. 10-15 men properly wouldn't be enough because he was an artist with with a sword...In the same way Oberyn Martel looked way more menacing in his gladiator looking armor, with immensely detailed and beautiful ornated spears, he was usually so skilled he was seen "playing" with his food, no one stood a match to him, so he never gave his all. He lost due to Hubris. In the same way Damon, was way more feared than what was let on on the show. 3:18- I wouldn't call it balls as Much as I would stupidity...
Lol chill out dude, nobody is taking on 10 to 15 guys lmao
waiting for season two of HOTD
Bro i have a question what happened to mourning, silverwing,cannibal and sheepstealer there fate isn't mentioned in the books or the show did the the dragonsbane send them somewhere behind shadow land or in shadow lands. did they fley across the sunset sea. what happened to them or did he simple killed them
No shit it wasn't mentioned in the show because they haven't even been showed yet lmfao, We're only 1 season into to the show
@@DatBoiChris420 my bad
And now he is burnt bones 🦴
I didn’t realize cole and strong we’re different dudes for a bit while watching, I thought strong was an aged up Cole lol
You rode the short bus didn't you
@@DatBoiChris420 at least I don’t wash soft johnsons
Jon will be like I don waant it 😂
I need me a second season, and soon! ❤
Cole beating the shit out of Harwin was one of the funniest moments
You mean Harwin beating the shit out of Cole 😂 lol
@@steadydropnem No, read the book.
@@roronoalaw7772I say Harwin knocking Cole in is a upgrade
@@J10005 It wasn’t, Harwin brokenbones was iconic.
@@J10005 Cole smoked him in the book
What a gorgeous man 😍 I fell inlove immediately with Sir Harwin Strong
@2:10 eh? I could have sworn he was dubbed the strong before n then he actually lost a fight n got some bones broken n thus the new moniker
Brokenbones and Burntbones
WC!!!!!
every one talk about the hair but no one said any thing on skine color lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Not gonna lie, I feel as though Rhaenyra's... well, recklessness alongside Laenor in regards to Harwin just makes no sense. I mean, why?
She must've known she was in a precarious situation regardless of her heirs, considering she was a woman, but bastards on top of this? Not saying Aegon II is a Saint by any means but, at least he has 3 legitimate kids, and not bastards in line to the throne.
You must have forgotten about Daemon and Rhaenyra's legitimate Targaryen son's who are actually MORE Targaryen than Aegon II and Aemon. Their son Aegon III sat the Iron Throne
I think ... i think he just might have broken someones bones
By dying very easily
The sword of his manhood?! LoL!😂😂😂
Tourneys must be too expensive for these producers. I would’ve liked to see more of this wedding tourney rather than some senseless face beating.
I think it was hinted that the 7 day wedding celebration was cut short due to Cole killing Joffrey
I thought blood raven was the first master of whispers?
Bloodraven was after this time; Aegon IV was his father - the first _known_ Master of Whisperers was actually Maegor's mysterious 3rd wife- Tyanna, from Pentos- but I don't doubt for a second that there were spymasters in Aegon's Court- both pre-& post-Conquest; it's just that setting up the systems that exist by present-day were likely to have been under different names/ titles - 'Hand of the King' didn't exist before Aegon granted the title to Orys- but there were obviously leading advisors to kings- that were held in higher regard than any other, before this point.
It's interesting that two of the most central roles in royal government have been known to have been held by women at different times; along with Tyanna before this time, Mysaria will go on to become Rhaenyra's Mistress of Whisperers - & later on, there will be two Mistresses of Coin (though these are unofficial, by virtue of their husbands in the positions, specifically because _they_ were needed for the role)...
He shoulda become breakdoor 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
Make a video on how he became BrokenBones😂
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Could you answer the question without turning around 😅
I love the change they did for his character in the show by having him beat the sht out of Criston Cole.
Criston provoked harwin into a fight in an attempt to shine a light on Rhaenyra and Harwins relationship. Criston had no intention of fighting back, he set a trap and Harwin fell right into it. If Criston had actually fought back the outcome would have been far different.
@jailow8310 facts, it's almost like they don't know that in the books he gets mopped by Criston and lives his remaining life as a cripple thanks to Cole
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy broken collarbones are not crippling injuries bruv
@iMajoraGaming he had a broken elbow too my guy
Criston is a beast💪😤
Broken bones 😂🤣😂 mushroom 🍄 is fearless
Ain’t no way he was third desired
He is not the most memorable character in house of the dragon. That's daemon by a mile.
House of The Dragon doesn’t count…Rhaenrya and Cole didn’t hook up in the book, shitty they belittled his honor in HoTD..his honor as a knight was the reason why he rejected Rhaenrya, and he hated her for trying to make him betray it!
I dont care ilove Sir Harwin ❤
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Bro nice fucking spoilers for shit that has nothing to do with how Strong got the name break bones. Why bro
I hate this idea that people get from the show, that a drunk teenager, seduced a fully grown man, who had vowed to protect her. Sir Cole is not a victim. He's a predator who broke his vows, and then cried about it.
To disobey is a sin
@@equusquaggaquagga536
And protecting someone you're essentially responsible for, from poor decision-making would have been- what?
It was pretty apparent he was into her; she gave him an 'in' by propositioning him. Yes, he _could_ have turned her down- & arguably *should* have- but he didn't.
Any guilt he feels is rather secondary to him getting his end away, with someone he's been attracted to for several years - the only thing that "ruins" it, in his view, is Rhaenyra's pragmatism in the aftermath.
But his bitterness in this scenario, doesn't even make sense; she's **heir to the throne** - he *knows* that- he also knows that she would *_by necessity_* have to make a marriage of state- & as a Kingsguard (& much lower noble birth than she would have been expected to marry- even if she were _not_ heir) he knows that will NEVER be him; he's been by her side for years now- we saw scenes of them, with Rhaenyra expressing her sense of conflict - her refusing to 'run away' with him couldn't be seen as sudden, unexpected, or out of the blue- he's more than aware of her conflict, _but_ he should also be aware that she was **never** going to abandon home, duty, & position - *_his_* attitude is the unrealistic one, here.
I still wonder if they shouldn't have gone with a different combination of events, if they wanted Cole to have the 'moral high ground'; him refusing her- as he supposedly did in one of the book-scenarios, & in a cloud of humiliation & rage- dismisses him as her Shield, goes back to having Lord Commander Westerling, as her Shield.
Then, has another flirtation-filled encounter with Ser Harwin, who strikes her fancy (though her father's made it clear now, that she must marry Laenor- whose orientation is an open secret) - he's not slow on the uptake & is more than willing to accept the limits of their relationship; she gets him appointed as her Sworn Shield - Cole, knowing exactly _why_ this has happened- & now thoroughly disenchanted with the little princess he'd previously served honourably & loyally, is now irrevocably against her- as one of her most deadly foes...
Not perfect- but it makes much more sense than what I saw on the show...
@@OcarinaSapphr- in cole's mind he dishonored himself before the gods by despoiling Rhaenyra and marriage was the way to make amends but her refusal has prevented his redemption
So now he has no honor no girl and no way to redeem his soul
Poor guy thinks he's going to Hell and she's to blame
@equusquaggaquagga536 that's my point exactly though. HE disobeyed, HE took the virginity of a teenage girl, HE slept with the woman he was supposed to protect, HE broke his vowes, but then HE blames Rhaenyra for his own actions. He's a child who wants to blame everyone else for his mistakes.
@@that_dude821How many times a guy gotta say no before it's rape?
Who cares.. he died
Cole >>> Harwin
Cole is an incel loser
I really dislike the man. His relationship with Nyra brought a LOT of harm to her and the targs in the long run. Luckily the three strong bastards died before they could sit on the throne.
The children are not to blame for the actions of the parents…and certainly didn’t deserve to die young. Harwin’s relationship with Rhaenyra was entirely consensual and they appeared to truly love each other. He brought her love, joy, happiness, and 3 sons who were good, caring young men. ‘Bastards’ or not, they would’ve been better kings than Alicent’s RAPIST son Aegon II.
@@carastone3473i prefer royal bastards when they own up to what they are like William the Conqueror and John the Great of Portugal. I'm still glad that Aegon The Younger sat in the throne at the end and not the bastards
@@danielsantiagourtado3430Even though this is referring to fictional characters, holy schitte did it make me recoil in disgust.
The funny thing is that in the books, it's entirely possible that Aegon III is the bastard of Harwin, posthumous son of Laenor, or, what the Septon thinks, just Daemon's son. He was ironically conceived as a bastard in all except Laenor's cases.
He was conceived while Rhaenyra was still married to Laenor.
Even then, the only reason people even thought the other three were Harwin's is just because someone suggested it, and people kept gossiping about it. There's every indication that Rhaenyra actually slept with Laenor, even in Mushroom's "Rhaenyra had threesomes with Laenor and Laenor's male paramour and enjoyed it," they were actively sleeping together. Even in ASoIaF, basal genetics still exist and all three of the Velaryons have dark-haired ancestors in the recent genepool, in all three possible fathers' respective family trees.
Baelor Breakspear was born to a Targaryen and looked like he was Salt Dornish because his mother was a Nymeros Martel.
Rhaenys had brown-black hair.
Also, William *didn't* own it.
He HATED being called a bastard.
Even if the Velaryons were bastards, it literally does not matter. Rhaenyra could literally just say; "They are not bastards, but if they were, I hereby, via Royal Decree, legitimise all of my children of dubious heritage as members of the House Targaryen."
Her not doing so when she held King's Landing kind of itself makes it seem even less apparent that they weren't trueborn, all it takes is one royal missive, or even just saying it out loud.
Aegon the Fertile didn't use any decree, he just said "All of my bastards are now legitimised." as he was dying, and so it was.
Anyways, death to House Targaryen, they're all the bastardspawn of Daeron the Illegitimate, the only legitimate Dragonseeds out there are Saera Blackfyre's son Aegon I Blackfyre and whatever family she may have had.
Thank The Father that he's taken Storm's End and will probably take the throne and bring Aegor Bracken's skull home.
Death to all Targaryens.
Victory to the Black Dragon.
@@iMajoraGaminghow is Aegon III harwin’s what are you on? He was born years after Harwin died,
@@danielsantiagourtado3430This is beyond stupid. It’s fiction. Dragons aren’t real. GAWD. Dumb comments like this, is why I hate the fandom most of the time.
Brokenbones 😂😂😂
You mean “Annoying Face Bones”.
help i'm being held captive in alaska by a strange man with a big pp
It was clearly obvious rhaenyra loved harwin strong. You just tryna make her look bad, like she didn't care. Just cuz we didn't see her mourn him doesn't mean she didn't care