I run a ball valve on the water side and two Pentair valves for soap and SH. Ball valve stays open for a house wash I dial the SH between 1-2 number on the Pentair. Works good. I throttle the ball valve back a 1/4 turn for roof washing. I run the SH between 4-5 number. I run a NorthStar 7gpm pump 12 volt. Going on my 3rd year with that pump. I buy my SH at 10 percent. Pentair valves are going on 3 yrs with no problems. I run 200 ft of 5/8s flexilla hose. My system works for me no issues. I will say I tried running a Pentair on the water side at first and it restricted my vertical distance by 10 feet when it was on. The 1/2 inch diameter proportional system is restrictive in my opinion when running a 7 GPM pump. Now a 5.5 gpm might work fine. But just wanted to share what works for me.
What I’ve gathered from the pentairs are they are honestly the same when it comes to percentage. All the way (if you’re using 10%) would be a 50/50 mix which would be 5%. Half way would be 2.5% and so on. The numbers tend to scare a lot of people cause they think the numbers on the dials are 1%,2%,3% etc lol
“Hey catch up”.. I love it when you say that on your vids😂😂 Anyway there’s a brand ASAHI who’s metering valves design solved this phenomenon. By full open the metering valves practically the same inside diameter as the ball valves. If you look at the other metering valves the inside diameter at full open is way smaller than the ball valve, hence less flow! Wash on brother 🤘🏽
Great video. I often wonder if I could make them myself. Especially when I see the prices online and don’t know how they get away with those prices….. I guess some people can’t build things them selves. Thanks again for the video
Ok peeps, maybe I'm missing something here,,,, at 4:45 it looks like he has a 1/2-inch barb coming out for the water and the SH on the bottom of the unit on the left and right side,,,, then at 8:00 minutes on the bottom right and left sides it looks a 1/4-inch barb size coming out ???? and at 8:10 he says 1/2-inch barb, but they look like there 1/4-inch barbs,,,, what am I missing please ???? thank you all,,,,
Not sure what you are missing. I used 1/2" barbs on the H2O & SH & 1/4" on the soap. I did eventually upgrade the barbs to schedule 80 later. Still using that proportioner as of today until my next suace maker is complete. Be on the lookout. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 Thank you for the reply, 1/2" barbs on the H2O & SH & 1/4" on the soap,,,, gotcha, thanks again for the help. when I ordered the parts, they sent me (3) 1/2 to 1/4 and just (1)1/2 to1/2 inch. so, I was bit corn-fused, lol.... but I got it now,,,, have a great day....
Thank you for your help, I got my parts in and built mine off your video, Seems everyone one else just want to sell us new guys an way over priced class.
Thank u very much for taking the time to do this test and video. Dont think u realize just how much time & money u have saved me as well as everyone watching this video.. Absolutely great helpful/ informative and educational video.. much appreciated my brother...!
Thanks for doing this test, I just ordered 2 Pentair valves and planned on using a regular valve for the third. Now I know I need to order a third valve.
See the above post I don’t run a Pentair on the water side. I run a a ball valve that is left open all the time. Since I switched to 12 percent SH I leave the ball valve open all the time even when doing roofs. Also a Pentair valve on the water side will restrict your vertical distance by 10 ft. It did mine anyways. But do what works for you. This is just my experience.
Awesome great job on the video. Great explanation of the parts. Well done. Liked 👍. Southeast soft wash got me intrigued and learning a lot. You just helped me put it all together. 😂 I love it.
as someone who just took an interest in this trade, i was very curious how this setup worked, i was wondering if each tank had its own independent pump but i see now they do not by the looks of this video and use the same pump to draw each of the chemicals through the same pump out through to the main hose. so thank you for taking the time to demonstrate this and show how it all works and goes together.
I'm not the brightest light bulb, but is there a need to meter the water. Can you just run the ball valve for the water fully open. I understand it has a different flow rate from the pentair valves. But does that really matter. Please clarify. Also wouldn't more water flow be an optimal scenario. I don't know anything, I'm just trying to learn to set up for myself. Thank you
Yes, more flow from the ball valve will not give an accurate mix. Knowing the percentages with accurate valves equates to applying to correct solution & chemical savings. Knowing your chemical draw is key in the industry. Hope this helps. Thanks
Hey sir, finished up my system and did a job went to rinse off the house with straight water but it was very soapy like there was soap drawing but my valve was off and the soap was not moving. It does not have a check valve like my other 2 lines. I rinsed and rinsed but still same result soapy water. Any ideas ?
am I wrong in thinking you could just use all ball valves? wouldn't both h2o and sh being set on full open be 5-6% mix, set h20 full and sh to half, now you got 2.5-3% and so on. as for surfactant just crack it open till you like the draw.
Great video! Why not just slightly close the ball valve down to match the flow rate of Pentair when spraying with bleach? And when rinsing turn the ball valve fully open so as not to starve the pump and get maximum water volume?
Now that’s quality content. 👍 Thank you for sharing your experiments with the community. I just got a lead on a massive stucco house, downstream broke/sized up on my 4gpm and I’m seriously considering a soft wash 12volt system. This help me to have greater confidence in building my own little system.
Great info thanks for taking the time to do the test, I am ordering all the parts to build myself one. If i get to doing this full time i step up to the GF valves. But if you keep these clean and take care of them they might last and work just as good.
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 So is the only difference the 1" valves? Are all the other parts the same or does everything have to be 1"? I appreciate the video and your responses! Thank you.
What a lot of people don't understand, is the reason for quality proportioning valves. One look at the cross section of the two valves tells you everything you need to know. That being said... in negative pressure application, it is CRUCIAL to use valves with REPEATABLE CONSISTENCY. Do you need a proportioning valve on you water pickup? Not necessarily. What IS important, is that YOU know YOUR equipment. Know your settings, and the results the produce. Also, know your chemicals. Density and viscosity will effect flow in negative pressure (pickup) applications. A high density/high viscosity foaming agent or surfactant isn't going to flow like a low viscosity solvent/detergent. Take a day and run flow tests on your equipment with the chemicals you use. Keep a cheat sheet with the various valve settings and flow rates.
How do you prime the soft wash system and then when you change the dials, how do you know when the new desired amount of bleach is coming out of the wand? Thanks!
Hi Pro. This valves are not too bad, but my setup start leaking after 2 years of use. I'm planning to get the more expensive ones, the one with the orange valve. Did you have used them before? Greeting from Miami Fl.
I did this same experiment but i used two of those 1/2" ball valves in series for the water. The one closest to the cross stayed closed but i drilled a hole through the ball to imitate the resistance i was getting on the metering valve. The second valve was my shutoff. It took some fine tuning but after I got it it stayed consistent on the draw rate. My metering valve cracked recently so I may see if I can do the whole module similarly. I can buy the metering valves but I enjoy the tinkering.
The biggest issue I was wondering about before getting a blend manifold was the size of the suction hose going from the manifold to the pump. I run all 1 inch suction hoses to my 5.5 pumps. I was always told to double the size to whatever size your inlet opening is for your pump which is 1/2 inch. I was wondering if you can do the same for the suction hose going from the manifold to the pump. 1/2 inch seems like it would be a lot of stress on the pump trying to pull through that and also trying to pull from 2 more separate 1/2 inch lines plus another 1/4 in line. Just wondering what the thoughts were on that.
I never tried anything bigger than 1/2" feeding the manifold. I did use a 3/4" from the manifold to the pump, but did not see any improvement. This is why I run a 3-way ball valve on my SH line. So I can convert my SH line to H2O without losing any flow. Hope this helps. Thanks
Just subscribed b/c of this video. Thank you! Curious thing, Mike V said a ball valve is more restrictive than a gate valve. Are GF valves gate valves? If not, what is configuration of "metering" valve? Thanks!
The GF is not a gate valve. They are metering valve that allow the flow to be metered. We now use the Asahi metering valves on all out or proportioners. Thanks
Do you have a part number for the metering valves you recommend? I searched the ashai metering valves and they are selling $175 - $225 each. Does that price sound right?
Yes, the price seems correct. The part number for the 1/2" is 160521005. You could also go with the 1" & reduce it to 1/2" for future upgrades. The 1" is the same price & the part number is 160521010. I purchase my valves from Indelco. www.indelco.com/products?s=asahi&f%5B0%5D=category%3A522&f%5B1%5D=pipesize%3A29
Hey brotha. That part 62119 (1/2”MNPT x 3/4” barb, would that be the same part I’d use where the hose comes in and out of the pump? I think those everflo are 1/2” in and out no?
If by chance you want to 3way off the output side to switch draw from a 12v “or” a Downstream injector, you’ll need a meter valve on water to shut off water completely to meter for Down stream. Also you need check valve on all as well!
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 I did figure it out water was fine sh I had to put my hose line at the bottom of the tank coming out and my soap valve was leaking from the valve I replaced everything and it works now with no flow lost
It may work. But if you are only doing roofs through the proportioner, then 2 ball valves would work for sure. You would just always have a 5% or 6.25% depending on your SH concentration.
Literally just bought everything out of your description. Wish me luck.
Not a bad build. Just don't over tighten the plastic fitting & use Tru Blue. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 Thanks, just got true blue yesterday. Still waiting on parts. Had some bad weather where I'm at the delayed things.
What was your total cost for the proportioner?
@@law0472 With the GF valves, the total cost is around $375. Thanks
Thank you I thought maybe us plastics was cheaper. I built one for about 295. On amazon. Thanks again
I run a ball valve on the water side and two Pentair valves for soap and SH. Ball valve stays open for a house wash I dial the SH between 1-2 number on the Pentair. Works good.
I throttle the ball valve back a 1/4 turn for roof washing. I run the SH between 4-5 number.
I run a NorthStar 7gpm pump 12 volt. Going on my 3rd year with that pump. I buy my SH at 10 percent. Pentair valves are going on 3 yrs with no problems. I run 200 ft of 5/8s flexilla hose.
My system works for me no issues. I will say I tried running a Pentair on the water side at first and it restricted my vertical distance by 10 feet when it was on. The 1/2 inch diameter proportional system is restrictive in my opinion when running a 7 GPM pump. Now a 5.5 gpm might work fine. But just wanted to share what works for me.
What I’ve gathered from the pentairs are they are honestly the same when it comes to percentage. All the way (if you’re using 10%) would be a 50/50 mix which would be 5%. Half way would be 2.5% and so on. The numbers tend to scare a lot of people cause they think the numbers on the dials are 1%,2%,3% etc lol
Yep. I did that test a couple years ago. We utilize 3 valves because it’ll skew the ratios significantly.
I found the exact same thing. with the valves all being the same metering valves it can be metered accurately.
@southeast softwash can I use 2 gf valves and 1 of the black and white ones (for water)?
@@worth-fighting-for use a regular ball valve for the water
@Steve Lagana yes I have
And if you have a broken valve, you can rob the water metering valve and replace with a ball valve temporarily
“Hey catch up”.. I love it when you say that on your vids😂😂
Anyway there’s a brand ASAHI who’s metering valves design solved this phenomenon. By full open the metering valves practically the same inside diameter as the ball valves. If you look at the other metering valves the inside diameter at full open is way smaller than the ball valve, hence less flow!
Wash on brother 🤘🏽
Good info. I just made some changes to my 12 volt proportioner with Asahi valves. Vid will drop soon!! Wash on brother.
Great video. I often wonder if I could make them myself. Especially when I see the prices online and don’t know how they get away with those prices….. I guess some people can’t build things them selves. Thanks again for the video
Very easy to build. But agree with the prices online. Thanks
Ok peeps, maybe I'm missing something here,,,, at 4:45 it looks like he has a 1/2-inch barb coming out for the water and the SH on the bottom of the unit on the left and right side,,,, then at 8:00 minutes on the bottom right and left sides it looks a 1/4-inch barb size coming out ???? and at 8:10 he says 1/2-inch barb, but they look like there 1/4-inch barbs,,,, what am I missing please ???? thank you all,,,,
Not sure what you are missing. I used 1/2" barbs on the H2O & SH & 1/4" on the soap. I did eventually upgrade the barbs to schedule 80 later. Still using that proportioner as of today until my next suace maker is complete. Be on the lookout. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 Thank you for the reply, 1/2" barbs on the H2O & SH & 1/4" on the soap,,,, gotcha, thanks again for the help. when I ordered the parts, they sent me (3) 1/2 to 1/4 and just (1)1/2 to1/2 inch. so, I was bit corn-fused, lol.... but I got it now,,,, have a great day....
Thank you for your help, I got my parts in and built mine off your video, Seems everyone one else just want to sell us new guys an way over priced class.
thank you, i wasnt expecting a significant difference honestly. but it was very significant.
That was my thoughts as well. It does matter when trying to dial the % in. Thanks
Great video. Thanks for the priceless info
You got a parts list . Thanks alot . I setup an account with us plastics just because of this .
Jay, I have the parts list in the description. You just need to get your valves. Let me know if you need anything.
Thank u very much for taking the time to do this test and video. Dont think u realize just how much time & money u have saved me as well as everyone watching this video..
Absolutely great helpful/ informative and educational video.. much appreciated my brother...!
Danny, thank you for watching & glad I could help! I really appreciate the comment! Wash on Brother!
With the check valve do you have to keep them up right? Or can they be sideways and still work fine?
You can mount them upright or sideways. Thanks
And whats the soap line for? Is that instead of just dumping the doap in the sh tank?
Yes sir! Also to control the amount applying. Thanks
This is the exact information I was looking for. Thanks a bunch.
Thanks for doing this test, I just ordered 2 Pentair valves and planned on using a regular valve for the third. Now I know I need to order a third valve.
See the above post I don’t run a Pentair on the water side. I run a a ball valve that is left open all the time. Since I switched to 12 percent SH I leave the ball valve open all the time even when doing roofs.
Also a Pentair valve on the water side will restrict your vertical distance by 10 ft. It did mine anyways. But do what works for you. This is just my experience.
Awesome great job on the video. Great explanation of the parts. Well done. Liked 👍. Southeast soft wash got me intrigued and learning a lot. You just helped me put it all together. 😂 I love it.
Thanks! 👍
Use a sweeping 90
as someone who just took an interest in this trade, i was very curious how this setup worked, i was wondering if each tank had its own independent pump but i see now they do not by the looks of this video and use the same pump to draw each of the chemicals through the same pump out through to the main hose. so thank you for taking the time to demonstrate this and show how it all works and goes together.
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching
Damn good video man ! I always wondered about a regular ball valve for the water
Thanks!!
So if youre using 12.5% sh, with both valves open would that be your 6% mix and the more you shut sh valve off the weaker the mix?
Correct. Turn the SH valve to half way to get 3% etc. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 thanks man
Great information thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Where did you buy those and how much was that setup please I need to know
You can get the parts from US Plastics or another vendor. Not sure of the cost in today's market. Thanks
Nice ! We need to build one before spring. Can you post a parts list ?
It should be in the description. Also, make sure all fitting are schedule 80 & DO NOT use Pentair valves. Thanks
I'm not the brightest light bulb, but is there a need to meter the water. Can you just run the ball valve for the water fully open. I understand it has a different flow rate from the pentair valves. But does that really matter. Please clarify.
Also wouldn't more water flow be an optimal scenario. I don't know anything, I'm just trying to learn to set up for myself. Thank you
Yes, more flow from the ball valve will not give an accurate mix. Knowing the percentages with accurate valves equates to applying to correct solution & chemical savings. Knowing your chemical draw is key in the industry. Hope this helps. Thanks
Gracias por su video me ayudó mucho bendiciones
By any chance do you build for someone
Currently, we do not build for resale. Thanks
Great video. I liked your trailer build also.
Hey sir, finished up my system and did a job went to rinse off the house with straight water but it was very soapy like there was soap drawing but my valve was off and the soap was not moving. It does not have a check valve like my other 2 lines. I rinsed and rinsed but still same result soapy water. Any ideas ?
It sounds like soap got in to your water tank. You need to add check vales to the water line to prevent back flow. Thanks
am I wrong in thinking you could just use all ball valves? wouldn't both h2o and sh being set on full open be 5-6% mix, set h20 full and sh to half, now you got 2.5-3% and so on. as for surfactant just crack it open till you like the draw.
I think you are correct. We wanted the ability to change the % when needed a little more accurate. Thanks
can you do a test showing how you would mix ratio's to figure out how you want it set on the metering valves?
I will try to get it done. Thanks
I have a REMCO 7 GPM pump what size hose should I be coming off the pump to the manifold ?
Great video! Why not just slightly close the ball valve down to match the flow rate of Pentair when spraying with bleach? And when rinsing turn the ball valve fully open so as not to starve the pump and get maximum water volume?
That could have worked, but I wanted a more accurate flow. Thanks
For a 3000 CPM soap which vacuum pressure would you recommend to draw the chemical from the container. Great videos.
Either a container or tank. Thanks
Super awesome video !!!! Thanks a lot friend and much luck with your business … thanks again!!!
Do you have a video on the mix ratio for the metering valves? This is the only part I am lost on
This video may help. Thanks ua-cam.com/video/ZnZnkNADhOs/v-deo.html
Now that’s quality content. 👍 Thank you for sharing your experiments with the community. I just got a lead on a massive stucco house, downstream broke/sized up on my 4gpm and I’m seriously considering a soft wash 12volt system. This help me to have greater confidence in building my own little system.
DJ, good luck with the build and let me know if I can help!
What is the enter dimension of the ball value vs the metering value?
I do not know that dimension. Thanks
Great info thanks for taking the time to do the test, I am ordering all the parts to build myself one. If i get to doing this full time i step up to the GF valves. But if you keep these clean and take care of them they might last and work just as good.
Agreed!! They have been holding up well so far. Thanks
need video on now-watching you flush lines correctly
What about if you used ball valves for all three lines?
It would work but hard to get an accurate mix with a ball valve. Thanks
Do you think 3/4 inlet from water and same from sh would make any difference in this exact setup?
It may help a little bit, but it still a 1/2" on the 12 volt pump. Thanks
What if you did a smaller ball valve?
Not sure, but it may work. I just wanted to take the guessing out of it. Thanks
Great info! Thanks for doing the test, was always wondering what would happen.
Thanks!
Nice test ! Thanks for going through all the testing. Excellent information.
I guess it’s gotta be apples to apples.
Thanks 👍🏼
Great video! Do you know if the size of the inlet hoses will affect the ratio as well?
Not sure about the hose size. I chose to run 1/2" & 3/4" from the proportioner to the pump. Thanks
Do you have part list for all the parts that is needed to build a proportioner valve?
It should be in the description. Thanks
Have you try to us a ball valve on the SH and soap?
I have not. I decided to just use the metering valves. Thanks
Have you add a blend manifold to your system?
Yes, for both 12 volt & AR45. Thanks
Hey, All Pro. Quick Question, why the 1/4 inch for the soap? does it draw less percent, saving soap? Thank you for the video and info!
Because you do not want too much soap. Remember, the more the soap the more you will need to rinse. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 ah! Makes sense. Thanks for taking time to reply.
Pentair valves is all you need. They are made for chlorine and the more expensive ones aren’t needed.
Every Pentair valve I had ended up leaking. In my experience, the GF valve hold up much better. Thanks
wonder if any one knows how will they be set to percentages needed?
Exact percentages is tough. I use the theory that wide open is 6% & half open is 3% etc. Assuming I am using 12% SH. Thanks
Will this proportioner work with a 5.5 gpm machine for softwashing? Or is this better suited for roof washing with a 12 Volt?
Better suite for 12 volt. Thanks
Do the lines from each tank have to be the same length going to the mixing valve? Will different lengths of hose effect draw?
No, my lines are different length. Once the lines are filled, then you are good. Thanks
Great video thanks very much
Glad I can help!! Thanks
Is there a video on a manifold maybe a 4 port? A manifold will take care of the 90
You could add a tee to get a 4th port if needed. Thanks
Someone has a video out showing a 4 port manifold ( stainless, I think ) that they found at Home Depot in the plumbing section.
Will this work on a gas system?
If it is 1" then yes. You would also have to turn on/ off the SH & soap manually. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 So is the only difference the 1" valves? Are all the other parts the same or does everything have to be 1"? I appreciate the video and your responses! Thank you.
@@captaincake4331 Ours is 1" on everything expect the bypass hose which is 3/4".
What a lot of people don't understand, is the reason for quality proportioning valves. One look at the cross section of the two valves tells you everything you need to know. That being said... in negative pressure application, it is CRUCIAL to use valves with REPEATABLE CONSISTENCY. Do you need a proportioning valve on you water pickup? Not necessarily. What IS important, is that YOU know YOUR equipment. Know your settings, and the results the produce. Also, know your chemicals. Density and viscosity will effect flow in negative pressure (pickup) applications. A high density/high viscosity foaming agent or surfactant isn't going to flow like a low viscosity solvent/detergent. Take a day and run flow tests on your equipment with the chemicals you use. Keep a cheat sheet with the various valve settings and flow rates.
Agreed!!!
How do you prime the soft wash system and then when you change the dials, how do you know when the new desired amount of bleach is coming out of the wand? Thanks!
It self primes pretty easily. It takes about 30-45 second to clear the line when changing the SH dial. Thanks
Hi Pro.
This valves are not too bad, but my setup start leaking after 2 years of use. I'm planning to get the more expensive ones, the one with the orange valve. Did you have used them before?
Greeting from Miami Fl.
The GF valve are much better that the Pentair valves. Thanks
nice trial i was cwondering also bout if it really mattered thanks ...channel pressure washing with love
You Rock My Friend, Thank you so much for the info I'm going to build one and redo my softwash system.
Thanks!! Let me know if I can help!
Where do I get those Ryobi tips at? Can't find it on amazon
I got them from Home Depot. Thanks
What size pump are you using? Gpm?
We use the 5.5 GPM pump. Thanks
Good job man can you please put all the parts list?, Thank you.
Yes. I will add the links to all the parts. Thanks
Parts list added! Thanks for watching
Have you had any issues with having a bulkhead in the bottom of your chemical tank?
I was told the SH will damage the fitting and leak.
I have not had any issues. But I plan to change the tank to a 100 gallon with no bulkhead fitting.
Why no fitting?
@@rcl700 Fitting in the bottom is a potential leak.
The ball valve is full bore with a much higher Cv (Flow Coefficient) than the non full bore lower Cv Metering (Plug) valve at full open.
Great Great Great video. Big difference!
Thanks!!!
Does your flexzilla hose not flatten out and restrict flow when on the hose reel?
We always take the feed hose all the way off the reel to maximize flow. Thanks
So, upsize the ball valve?Worth a test.
I would use all metering valves. Thanks
Great video.
Thanks!!
What would happen if you maybe used a 3/8 ball valve instead of a 1/2 inch control for the water, I’m thinking this may work
It may work, but 3/8 ball valve may be hard to find. I would recommend just using a metering valve. Thanks
I did this same experiment but i used two of those 1/2" ball valves in series for the water. The one closest to the cross stayed closed but i drilled a hole through the ball to imitate the resistance i was getting on the metering valve. The second valve was my shutoff. It took some fine tuning but after I got it it stayed consistent on the draw rate. My metering valve cracked recently so I may see if I can do the whole module similarly. I can buy the metering valves but I enjoy the tinkering.
@@jeffellis7348 Awesome!! That is the way I am as well. Thanks
What is the best sealant?
We have had great luck with Tru Blue. Thanks
The biggest issue I was wondering about before getting a blend manifold was the size of the suction hose going from the manifold to the pump. I run all 1 inch suction hoses to my 5.5 pumps. I was always told to double the size to whatever size your inlet opening is for your pump which is 1/2 inch. I was wondering if you can do the same for the suction hose going from the manifold to the pump. 1/2 inch seems like it would be a lot of stress on the pump trying to pull through that and also trying to pull from 2 more separate 1/2 inch lines plus another 1/4 in line. Just wondering what the thoughts were on that.
I never tried anything bigger than 1/2" feeding the manifold. I did use a 3/4" from the manifold to the pump, but did not see any improvement. This is why I run a 3-way ball valve on my SH line. So I can convert my SH line to H2O without losing any flow. Hope this helps. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 Do you have any vids showing your complete setup and how it is plumbed using the 3-way ball valve etc?
@@Vulcan5911 Yes, I some of my older videos has the plumbing in it. Thanks
How can I buy all those parts live in California
Not sure about California. You should be able to order them since there is no chemicals involved. Thanks
Thanks
Just subscribed b/c of this video. Thank you! Curious thing, Mike V said a ball valve is more restrictive than a gate valve. Are GF valves gate valves? If not, what is configuration of "metering" valve? Thanks!
The GF is not a gate valve. They are metering valve that allow the flow to be metered. We now use the Asahi metering valves on all out or proportioners. Thanks
What kind of hoses do you use from the manifold to the tanks?
Do you have a part number for the metering valves you recommend? I searched the ashai metering valves and they are selling $175 - $225 each. Does that price sound right?
Yes, the price seems correct. The part number for the 1/2" is
160521005. You could also go with the 1" & reduce it to 1/2" for future upgrades. The 1" is the same price & the part number is 160521010. I purchase my valves from Indelco. www.indelco.com/products?s=asahi&f%5B0%5D=category%3A522&f%5B1%5D=pipesize%3A29
How is it holding on?
The pentair valves did not hold up well. I switched to the GF valves & they have been solid. Thanks
would you be willing to look at my setup and give me a opinion as to proper soft wash setup and im severly unhappy with my current pump for softwash?
Hey brotha. That part 62119 (1/2”MNPT x 3/4” barb, would that be the same part I’d use where the hose comes in and out of the pump? I think those everflo are 1/2” in and out no?
I used the 1/2" x 3/4" from the proportioner to the reel. I know it reduces down but thought it may help. You could use 1/2" x1/2". Thanks
Great content! Thanks for the testing. This is fantastic.
Thanks!!! If you can, get the GF valves. I just upgraded to the GF valves because the Pentairs started leaking.
If by chance you want to 3way off the output side to switch draw from a 12v “or” a Downstream injector, you’ll need a meter valve on water to shut off water completely to meter for Down stream.
Also you need check valve on all as well!
Great Vid! Thanks bubba
excellent video
Thanks!!
I suppose I could use ball valves on all three to even it out or would that not be good?
The challenge with ball valves is the metering part. I would recommend 3 metering valves to be accurate.
If you have a three-quarter inch line against a half as would it be different you had three quarter against see what it pulled
I think it would change, but we run 1/2" all the way. Thanks
Great test and content bro
Thank you!
Great video….I’m building one soon!
Awesome content you got yourself a new subscriber 👍
Thanks!!!!
thank you for posting this!
my sh and soap is not sucking but my water is i did everything right do i have to turn down the pump to get all air out
Make sure your check valves are not mounted the wrong way to prevent flow. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 I did figure it out water was fine sh I had to put my hose line at the bottom of the tank coming out and my soap valve was leaking from the valve I replaced everything and it works now with no flow lost
What if the ball valve was smaller than the 2 metering valves? Maybe it would equal out then?
It may work. But if you are only doing roofs through the proportioner, then 2 ball valves would work for sure. You would just always have a 5% or 6.25% depending on your SH concentration.
How
Much did it all cost
Right around $200 with the Pentair valve.
Sorry for silly question, but shy do you use a check valve?
So you don't get back flow into your tanks. Thanks
Good to know
and the pump your using and its plumbing
What type and size bulkhead fittings do you use? 1 3/8 to 1/2”
1/2" Thanks
Great test! I have the same metering valve just like that. Great content
Thanks for watching!
Nice test. I just asked this on a Facebook page today. How long did the Pentair valves last?
They didn't make it to long. I would highly recommend the GF valves for sure. Thanks
I have a comet P40 11 gpm will this set up be fine? Or do I need larger plastic pieces?
You should use 1" for the P40. We use the 1" on our AR45 system & it works great. Thanks
Yes! Just put it together today. Should’ve done this a few years ago. Thanks again.