When I was 15 and fully immersed in the Baptist Church I truly believed I was talking to god and hearing his direction… until I met some who also thought that but got a completely different message.
Yes, I agree. It is funny I lost a couple friends because I told them to check Matt out and then told after, I would be going to hell unless I repented. Still an atheist so... Take care my friend cheers
This is a great point. It always struck me as odd how theists are convinced by such fickle “revelation”. An all powerful being, enacting the most important plan in the history of mankind… Chooses to reveal such plan by appearing here as a man 2000 years ago, doesn’t write anything down, doesn’t appear to important historians of his time to get interviewed by them, doesn’t even get a scribe as a follower. His miracles? Not one is verifiable afterwards, only stories remain. He himself? Goes up to the heavens and is unreachable, instead of staying around. You know what would be an actual revelation that would make sense? Exactly what Matt says here. Every single human from every civilization always having a similar subjective experience. Like, for example, every person who reaches 15 years of age having the same vision of Jesus talking to them about important stuff. Of course, the typical Christian counter to this is that “You don’t get to impose your standards of evidence on God” or other silly rationalizations. Because at the end of the day they can’t really accept how bad are the reasons for believing that have convinced them.
A message that is consistent and testable everywhere, that is not dependent on language or subjectivity, and which provides the insights to improve the quality of human like in general. Sounds like science.
If this "God" wants me to know that it exists, it will have methods of revealing itself to me. As I do not know what would convince me of its existence and if it was "All-Powerful", it would know.
Well... the thing is, that "God" is claimed to have exposed Himself _to_ some. Personal revelation... no? So if God were to grant you personal revelation, it would be just that, personal. And that is the issue. No? For God to actually prove Himself through revelation, He would have to make an "omni-revelation". That is, everyone would understand, that everyone had the same revelation, without inconsistencies between. Soo... you would know that I know, that you know that I know, that you know that I know, that you know that... hmm... funny, whenever God is considered, there seemingly is the risk of an indefinate recursion. This makes it seem that God does not exist. Go figure.
If you are familiar with a Parabolic Deflector, you can actually use one to point and direct sound very precisely and it can sound like you are having audible thoughts beamed into your skull. If the convergence point is inside your head, it will definitely feel like sound is from inside your skull, because it too can be somewhat similar inside to a parabolic deflector.
The big issue I don't feel like is talked about enough is that if there is a god, its unable or unwilling to take the first step, most important step, before convincing me its a god, of convincing me it exists. Bird's could be sufficiently advanced technology to appear organic but are actually robots... but if some one made that claim to me, I would not respond with "I don't see evidence birds exist", because I witness birds all the time. I have good evidence they exist. My tooth brush could be a sleeping god, but if some one made that claim, again, I wouldn't start with "I don't see evidence tooth brush exist" because I see, touch, and use them all the time. The wind could be invisible fairies fluttering about, but if some one made that claim, I wouldn't indicate I don't think the wind exists, because I see its effects and feel its touch. I have evidence SOMETHING exists, regardless of whether or not I'm confident in my understanding of what that something is. If you want to convince me there exists a god, this is the first step. If anything worthy of being described as a god exists, IMO, this should be an easy, but mandatory, first step. Be as compelling to me of your existence as a tooth brush. If your god is less capable then a tooth brush at conveying its existence, that should give you pause. That's a very VERY low bar to clear. And if you think he could but is choosing not to, consider what that must necessarily convey to me. Any being which is intentionally hiding its existence from me is conveying to me through their actions that they don't want me to know they exist. If that's the case, so be it, but then don't tell me they also want to be known by me if they won't offer me what even my tooth brush offers, compelling evidence of its mere existence.
To the theists who scoff at us saying god supposedly talking to all of us at the same time wouldn't necessarily immediately convince us it actually exists, just ask them if they would be convinced if the same voice said it was some other god.
AI fluid translate from -to any language in the voice of whoever on the screen. God didn't knew in advance that destroying Babel is a wasted effort.. :D
For thousands of years, Bibles should do exactly that - adapt to the reader so that anyone understands the Bible in the same way and depth. That would have been a really good pro-God argument...
@@feedingravens I like the god is not good or great arguments. Some believers want to be "cool" or wannabe and they even state that god is god and that is all to it. obey or else. I don' like the god exist or not. Some believers beyond "saving" believe that atheist in here and there searching for god...
I'm Hindu but I'm not religious, and I haven't heard from any other Hindu about getting revelations. If Christianity really does offer you such revelations, I would like to sign up, see how it feels to talk to God.
Pretending to be getting Revelations is big money just pretend Jesus talks to you in your car during lunch break in the parking lot & believers will give you money start with an intro hello family ,I just got a revaluation..
I have no idea what would convince me a god exists but he does .... in the meantime I will carry on with my life as though he doesn't exist and so should everybody else
The sheer amount of times in debates you and other atheists get posed the question: "What if you say writing in the sky in your name?" "What if this *Insert miraculous situation* happened?" Yet none of these have never demonstrably happened. It's like they think it could happen any moment if I'd say :"Yeah that's pretty remarkable" yet are offended when you say: "No that is not enough evidence" If they scoff at that, it shows how poor their standards of evidence to warrant believe is.
You cannot prove God can't logically exist because you can't technically prove a negative. However, by that same reasoning you also cannot prove that I personally am not God. If you get on your knees and beg me for something, I will actually listen, respond, and I may even give it to you. Therefore me ordering you to worship me actually is more rational than worshipping the god of any established religion.
I request that God just reach into my brain and make me believe in him. I want to believe what's true and he wants me to believe in him, so we'd both benefit. Since I'm requesting this, it wouldn't violate my free will. I'll let everyone know when this happens.
If God really exists, he's clearly hiding on purpose. He could walk with us every day of our lives if he wanted to. We wouldn't even _think_ to wonder if he existed. "B-b-but-- free will!!" cry the theists. "How would that affect my free will?" "You wouldn't be able to choose Him!" "Why not?" "Because you would just follow Him to avoid punishment or get a reward because you would know Heaven and Hell are real." "Couldn't he just not use sticks and carrots if he didn't want them to affect my choice?" "But eternal punishment/reward are necessary because something, something justice!" "Then why not keep that part a secret from us until after we die?" "Because He's a merciful God who wants us to know what the consequences of our choices will be." "... so he _does_ want us to know he exists ahead of time so we can make an informed decision?" "Well, not _know_ know." "Oh no, Theist, my friend! Do you believe Heaven and Hell are real? Because that would mean your free will is--" "--GOLLY, WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE TIME"
If I could ascend into the heavens and behold the reverence for the stars in the galaxies. What would seem most wondrous would be of small worth unless I had a friend like you to share it with.
Why would there be a point to point communication between me and god? Why wouldn't there be a broadcast from god? Don't all of the thing including inanimate things deserve to have a mind to comprehend god? Or is it there are a particular set of things he intended to create and others were just created out of accident? If there are things getting created outside the intent of god.. then god is just another being right? And god himself is not able to comprehend the universe fully.. or, god/universe might just be a crazy dot which likes to move into different forms of matter to gain all different perspectives on itself.. but then again it means that god/universe doesn't know itself to begin with... 😂😂😂
We’ve gone from a god who, to demonstrate his power, sent plague after plague to Egypt and then performed a spectacular huge scale miracle like the parting of the Red Sea, to a god who talks inside people’s heads. Does anyone see the problem here?
@@pansepot1490 we still try to equate lack of information with terms like fate, luck, god etc. Our brains need to evolve more and compartmentalize even more so that it can pack way more information in a even smaller space... our languages, symbols everything needs to be more and more compact..😆😆
I like that Clarke quote. But from a religious perspective, which Clarke was not, shouldn't it read, 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from nature?'
The Damascus Road experience would be more than enough for me. Clearly he is capable. Clearly he can be willing. Paul was a hostile non-believer, so it can’t have anything to do with my own resistance. Hell, I’ll take Doubting Thomas’ experience. So what if people who believe without seeing are even more blessed? Sure beats being damned.
The problem I have is that everything they claim is a message from God is not consistent with what a God would do. The Bible is the strongest evidence that the Christian God doesn't exist.
I would e.g find it very impressive when Bibles are printed by putting paper and ink into a huge concrete room on stilts with an airtight steel door, then you close the door, wait a moment, open it again and you take out the printed pages for the bibles. That happens in the correct local language all over the world. Even better: Depending on the person that takes the Bible and opens it, the Bible changes language and adapts its way of expression in accordance to the needs of the person that reads it. E.g. a child gets another way of formulation than a grownup, God is omnipotent, so that would be zero problem for him. And God wants that we know him so that we can decide for or against him, so that would make total sense.
For me, something like my suddenly being able to understand advanced mathematics would go a long way to convincing me. I have dyscalculia, so I struggle with even basic maths. If I could understand advanced mathematics, that is is then confirmed by experts in the field, it’d be impressive. If other people in my situation were able to acquire the same understanding, it would be even better.
If you suddenly did, have a "Lidnersk Pop", it would still be better explained by a sudden "re-wiring" of your brain. Now, if that re-wiring were such, that it identifiably goes against everything that we know about biology, and the brain, it would still just show that we don't know everything. Not that God did it. That which can not be proven, can not be proven. "Lidnersk Pop", is an expression from 18th century Sweden, coined from an anecdote about a student named Bengt Lidner, self-reported as a very much average student, who one day at the age of 11, experienced a sudden, brief, but very painful "pop" in his head, after which he claimed a much clearer understanding of things, and having an improved memory. He later became a poet of some report.
Why would the biblical god reveal his message in every language as it clearly doesn't approve of us communicating in different languages? Or is its plan to weed out those worthy by revealing itself only to those who by happenstance understand the language it prefers?
I think if God wants they could do the thing you say but with a word that looks unrecognizable, and yet everyone understands it completely or perhaps everyone that sees it sees it in their native language. But they still haven't for some reason.
If a divine message manifested itself in the sky at the same time Every day above Brazil before slowly descending and breaking up into mana bread over the course of a few hours, it wouldn't eliminate all the possibilities I can think of, but it would come pretty close.
In your crusade against god(s), please define what you mean by god. Atheists usually define god as an invisible supernatural magical superpower interventionist entity. Well, that narrow definition of deity can be very easy to debunk. I challenge you to define god in some other ways.
I feel like that's where the "free will" bullshit comes in, at least qith christianity. God doesn't want to truly and demonstrably show himself, because he wants people to have a false sense of choice, which ultimately boils down to needing to believe in order to believe.
Wait, but maybe god exists, wants you to know it, but wants you to do something first. Similar to a vampire. It wants to get in your home and eat you, but needs you to invite it in first. This way, it would be your problem. Maybe passing some kind of test. I'm not a believer, btw. Just playing with the argument.
If Christians got a message broadcasted directly to their minds that told them they believed in the wrong god, would they accept that? 😂 I bet they wouldn’t.
I was (and still am) a big fan on Matt, but I really prefer to see him in debates (and even in call in shows) rather in such videos - as they became repeatative and frankly boring and overly detailed and even weird (like that latest biology gender video too in-depth to understand or follow, long, boring and over-detailed), and just to keep video content coming. I understand I might be non-objective seeing so many of his videos over the years that it can be more informational for those who just statrred following him while feeling repeatable for me - but still have to say it. Debates is where Matt shines like no other. Where he really stands out. UA-cam "blog-type" video making - there are so many others more young, relevant and interesting to watch.
The deeper I get into the atheist community, the more I’m an advocate for every atheist starting a channel or page to add their voice. We have to counter the theists and misinformation. I’m sure there are a lot of people that benefit from these videos.
And the funny thing is, traditions that include supposedly access to different languages, like Pentacostals, are down to “heavenly languages” that cannot be understood by anyone other than on-the-spot “interpreters”. There is no way of cross referencing their “interpretation”.
It's disappointing that you don't touch up more on Anthropology and how it actually disproves the existence of "gods" via Anthropomorphism. Anthropology combined with the behavioral and cognitive sciences proves that "gods" are nothing more than delusions derived from the mental constructs of anthropomorphic projections that are validated only by anthropocentric reasoning. The insubstantial and arbitrary concept of "gods" contains no realistic or plausible justification beyond these projections and assumptions, so it's a bit silly to argue for or against any other position, especially if one were to title themselves as an 'atheist'; because all you're really achieving there is providing further undue relevance for the insubstantial and unjustified concept of theism.
Its because a lot of theists will ignore literal hours of lecture and entire shelves of textbooks as "that's just not true", and nothing will ever convince them that it is
@keegan6388 yep, and that's why we should no longer continue to play by their terms and conditions by submitting to terminology that they assert against critics, such as 'agnostic' or 'atheist'.
It's best to stop waiting for God to do something to cause you to believe he exists. Let it go. He doesn't exist. It is a waste of your limited time alive; your time is better spent living the best you can.
Science: What causes certain diseases? (Question!) Germs! (Answer!) Science: How many and what are the planets that revolve around the sun? (Question!) 8 Planets revolve around the sun! (Answer!) Science: What moves and gives shape to continents? (Question!) Plate Tectonics (Answer!) POINT! Science produces questions and answers!
@@mcotto4083 Hmm... I don't know what to reply. However, my lack in luck of finding adequate words, does not in any way mean that you are correct in your take on my philosophical statement. Science is a process, a method. It shines a light on reality, revealing it. It does not provide questions nor answers. You do, ie the scientist does, after interpreting the observed result of an experiment deviced according to a hypothetical question. Or by collating data, etc. Coolating data... is having a beer watching Star Trek. Be well.
As I understand it’s impossible to get evidence for a being being a God because what evidence can there be for an entity being supernatural and having created the universe from nothing.
It's powerful enough to create a universe from nothing and interact with the physical world but not powerful enough to give evidence of its existence?🤔
Saying words in Russian to multiple people whilst they are asleep, hypnotised, semi unconscious etc, would be a more likely answer than a God did it! In saying that! 1. Personal experience may in fact be true, it's just that this claimed God decided to be very sneaky! 2. Unknown phenomoners close to say a definition of a miracle, could be sufficient to point to a maybe God. Believing in it, wouldn't be nonsense. 3. Picking the number you wrote down a decade ago, is actually a bad reason to believe, especially if multiple people win the lotto each week! 4. Evidence must point to that believed in thing, not something else, such as Russian language in your head. 5. Merely not understanding why the stars swivel in loops on a believed in flat Earth, doesn't mean God! Nor Russian language in a surgically inserted tiny speaker in your head!
Everyone will be convinced when they die. Everyone is saved and so God doesn’t need to do anything. Most will learn the hard way that God’s ways are the very best.
When I was 15 and fully immersed in the Baptist Church I truly believed I was talking to god and hearing his direction… until I met some who also thought that but got a completely different message.
But have you considered that one or both of you are, consciously or unconsciously, lying scumbags just hearing what you want to hear? /s
From the bottom of my heart, thank you Matt for the content you create!
Yes, I agree. It is funny I lost a couple friends because I told them to check Matt out and then told after, I would be going to hell unless I repented. Still an atheist so... Take care my friend cheers
God tech: "This message from God is sponsored by Amazon and Coke Cola".
As soon as someone invents the technology for beaming messages into people's heads... it will be used for advertising.
This is a great point. It always struck me as odd how theists are convinced by such fickle “revelation”.
An all powerful being, enacting the most important plan in the history of mankind… Chooses to reveal such plan by appearing here as a man 2000 years ago, doesn’t write anything down, doesn’t appear to important historians of his time to get interviewed by them, doesn’t even get a scribe as a follower. His miracles? Not one is verifiable afterwards, only stories remain. He himself? Goes up to the heavens and is unreachable, instead of staying around.
You know what would be an actual revelation that would make sense? Exactly what Matt says here. Every single human from every civilization always having a similar subjective experience. Like, for example, every person who reaches 15 years of age having the same vision of Jesus talking to them about important stuff.
Of course, the typical Christian counter to this is that “You don’t get to impose your standards of evidence on God” or other silly rationalizations. Because at the end of the day they can’t really accept how bad are the reasons for believing that have convinced them.
A message that is consistent and testable everywhere, that is not dependent on language or subjectivity, and which provides the insights to improve the quality of human like in general. Sounds like science.
For a God that is supposedly not the author of confusion, there sure is a lot of global puzzlement about it.
Even more incompatible non- confusion about it.
Hi Matt... always great to listen to you speak!
Matt, Excellent reasoning, as usual. 👍🏼💙💞💙💖💙🥰✌
Brilliant as always
If this "God" wants me to know that it exists, it will have methods of revealing itself to me. As I do not know what would convince me of its existence and if it was "All-Powerful", it would know.
Well... the thing is, that "God" is claimed to have exposed Himself _to_ some. Personal revelation... no?
So if God were to grant you personal revelation, it would be just that, personal. And that is the issue. No?
For God to actually prove Himself through revelation, He would have to make an "omni-revelation". That is,
everyone would understand, that everyone had the same revelation, without inconsistencies between. Soo...
you would know that I know, that you know that I know, that you know that I know, that you know that...
hmm... funny, whenever God is considered, there seemingly is the risk of an indefinate recursion.
This makes it seem that God does not exist. Go figure.
It's literally how omnipotence works. Whatever he wants to be the case will be the case. If he wanted us to be aware of him, we would be.
Cool, so I don't have to worry about believing?@@corvinredacted
Nobody needs arguments and evidence to prove that the moon exists. God could do the same thing.
If you are familiar with a Parabolic Deflector, you can actually use one to point and direct sound very precisely and it can sound like you are having audible thoughts beamed into your skull. If the convergence point is inside your head, it will definitely feel like sound is from inside your skull, because it too can be somewhat similar inside to a parabolic deflector.
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The big issue I don't feel like is talked about enough is that if there is a god, its unable or unwilling to take the first step, most important step, before convincing me its a god, of convincing me it exists. Bird's could be sufficiently advanced technology to appear organic but are actually robots... but if some one made that claim to me, I would not respond with "I don't see evidence birds exist", because I witness birds all the time. I have good evidence they exist. My tooth brush could be a sleeping god, but if some one made that claim, again, I wouldn't start with "I don't see evidence tooth brush exist" because I see, touch, and use them all the time. The wind could be invisible fairies fluttering about, but if some one made that claim, I wouldn't indicate I don't think the wind exists, because I see its effects and feel its touch. I have evidence SOMETHING exists, regardless of whether or not I'm confident in my understanding of what that something is.
If you want to convince me there exists a god, this is the first step. If anything worthy of being described as a god exists, IMO, this should be an easy, but mandatory, first step. Be as compelling to me of your existence as a tooth brush. If your god is less capable then a tooth brush at conveying its existence, that should give you pause. That's a very VERY low bar to clear. And if you think he could but is choosing not to, consider what that must necessarily convey to me. Any being which is intentionally hiding its existence from me is conveying to me through their actions that they don't want me to know they exist. If that's the case, so be it, but then don't tell me they also want to be known by me if they won't offer me what even my tooth brush offers, compelling evidence of its mere existence.
To the theists who scoff at us saying god supposedly talking to all of us at the same time wouldn't necessarily immediately convince us it actually exists, just ask them if they would be convinced if the same voice said it was some other god.
Consider personal revelation in the light of Adams's puddle analogy.
It is all in your head...
AI fluid translate from -to any language in the voice of whoever on the screen. God didn't knew in advance that destroying Babel is a wasted effort.. :D
For thousands of years, Bibles should do exactly that - adapt to the reader so that anyone understands the Bible in the same way and depth.
That would have been a really good pro-God argument...
@@feedingravens I like the god is not good or great arguments. Some believers want to be "cool" or wannabe and they even state that god is god and that is all to it. obey or else. I don' like the god exist or not. Some believers beyond "saving" believe that atheist in here and there searching for god...
"god tech" is my new favorite concept
As mentioned, a real, caring god would know how to & want to overcome anybody's scepticism about its mere existence.
@@Graverobbert _"...a primal, extremely extreme mushroom consciousness that’s battling his own insanity..."_ - not the weirdest proposal I've heard 😀
I'm Hindu but I'm not religious, and I haven't heard from any other Hindu about getting revelations. If Christianity really does offer you such revelations, I would like to sign up, see how it feels to talk to God.
It doesn't, they are literally just lying
@@keegan6388 Some are probably lying. Some are deluding themselves, or engaging in motivated reasoning to interpret a psychological experience.
Pretending to be getting Revelations is big money just pretend Jesus talks to you in your car during lunch break in the parking lot & believers will give you money
start with an intro hello family ,I just got a revaluation..
I have no idea what would convince me a god exists but he does .... in the meantime I will carry on with my life as though he doesn't exist and so should everybody else
The sheer amount of times in debates you and other atheists get posed the question: "What if you say writing in the sky in your name?" "What if this *Insert miraculous situation* happened?"
Yet none of these have never demonstrably happened.
It's like they think it could happen any moment if I'd say :"Yeah that's pretty remarkable" yet are offended when you say: "No that is not enough evidence"
If they scoff at that, it shows how poor their standards of evidence to warrant believe is.
You cannot prove God can't logically exist because you can't technically prove a negative. However, by that same reasoning you also cannot prove that I personally am not God. If you get on your knees and beg me for something, I will actually listen, respond, and I may even give it to you. Therefore me ordering you to worship me actually is more rational than worshipping the god of any established religion.
George Carlin had said that he has as much authority as the Pope, he just doesn't have as many people who believe it.
Your future in eternity is a judgement of the quality of your proselytizer.
I request that God just reach into my brain and make me believe in him. I want to believe what's true and he wants me to believe in him, so we'd both benefit. Since I'm requesting this, it wouldn't violate my free will. I'll let everyone know when this happens.
i didnt know god got to be included as a potential explanation
Only as much as invisible universe creating pixies, it may be a potential explanation, but it’s definitely not yet a possible explanation
If God really exists, he's clearly hiding on purpose. He could walk with us every day of our lives if he wanted to. We wouldn't even _think_ to wonder if he existed.
"B-b-but-- free will!!" cry the theists.
"How would that affect my free will?"
"You wouldn't be able to choose Him!"
"Why not?"
"Because you would just follow Him to avoid punishment or get a reward because you would know Heaven and Hell are real."
"Couldn't he just not use sticks and carrots if he didn't want them to affect my choice?"
"But eternal punishment/reward are necessary because something, something justice!"
"Then why not keep that part a secret from us until after we die?"
"Because He's a merciful God who wants us to know what the consequences of our choices will be."
"... so he _does_ want us to know he exists ahead of time so we can make an informed decision?"
"Well, not _know_ know."
"Oh no, Theist, my friend! Do you believe Heaven and Hell are real? Because that would mean your free will is--"
"--GOLLY, WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE TIME"
Have you ever heard of typology?
@@noahcole6856 Like, sorting things by category, or the eisegetical exercise of trying to find secret Jesus predictions in the OT?
Yeah why would a god give people sneaky clues like a mystery-box TV show instead of just…having a face to face conversation?
If I could ascend into the heavens and behold the reverence for the stars in the galaxies. What would seem most wondrous would be of small worth unless I had a friend like you to share it with.
Matt regrew his beard
Maybe it’s an older video?
Why would there be a point to point communication between me and god? Why wouldn't there be a broadcast from god? Don't all of the thing including inanimate things deserve to have a mind to comprehend god? Or is it there are a particular set of things he intended to create and others were just created out of accident? If there are things getting created outside the intent of god.. then god is just another being right? And god himself is not able to comprehend the universe fully.. or, god/universe might just be a crazy dot which likes to move into different forms of matter to gain all different perspectives on itself.. but then again it means that god/universe doesn't know itself to begin with... 😂😂😂
We’ve gone from a god who, to demonstrate his power, sent plague after plague to Egypt and then performed a spectacular huge scale miracle like the parting of the Red Sea, to a god who talks inside people’s heads.
Does anyone see the problem here?
@@pansepot1490 we still try to equate lack of information with terms like fate, luck, god etc. Our brains need to evolve more and compartmentalize even more so that it can pack way more information in a even smaller space... our languages, symbols everything needs to be more and more compact..😆😆
Matt is the perfect Santa clause for sure
I like that Clarke quote. But from a religious perspective, which Clarke was not, shouldn't it read, 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from nature?'
I used to believe I could see auras, no one else could see them.
Hey Matt, have you heard of all the examples of typology yet?
The Damascus Road experience would be more than enough for me. Clearly he is capable. Clearly he can be willing. Paul was a hostile non-believer, so it can’t have anything to do with my own resistance.
Hell, I’ll take Doubting Thomas’ experience. So what if people who believe without seeing are even more blessed? Sure beats being damned.
"Being damned" isn't real
God should create an Arkin Stone. Something so far beyond reality that it could only be from a god.
Gorgnarrr Kshnorph from Margon Prime told me he made the earth and humanity, and god is an imposter from the bargniff cluster!
The problem I have is that everything they claim is a message from God is not consistent with what a God would do.
The Bible is the strongest evidence that the Christian God doesn't exist.
I would e.g find it very impressive when Bibles are printed by putting paper and ink into a huge concrete room on stilts with an airtight steel door, then you close the door, wait a moment, open it again and you take out the printed pages for the bibles.
That happens in the correct local language all over the world.
Even better:
Depending on the person that takes the Bible and opens it, the Bible changes language and adapts its way of expression in accordance to the needs of the person that reads it.
E.g. a child gets another way of formulation than a grownup,
God is omnipotent, so that would be zero problem for him.
And God wants that we know him so that we can decide for or against him, so that would make total sense.
For me, something like my suddenly being able to understand advanced mathematics would go a long way to convincing me. I have dyscalculia, so I struggle with even basic maths. If I could understand advanced mathematics, that is is then confirmed by experts in the field, it’d be impressive.
If other people in my situation were able to acquire the same understanding, it would be even better.
If you suddenly did, have a "Lidnersk Pop", it would still be better explained by a sudden "re-wiring" of your brain.
Now, if that re-wiring were such, that it identifiably goes against everything that we know about biology, and the
brain, it would still just show that we don't know everything. Not that God did it.
That which can not be proven, can not be proven.
"Lidnersk Pop", is an expression from 18th century Sweden, coined from an anecdote about a student named Bengt Lidner,
self-reported as a very much average student, who one day at the age of 11, experienced a sudden, brief, but very painful
"pop" in his head, after which he claimed a much clearer understanding of things, and having an improved memory.
He later became a poet of some report.
Why would the biblical god reveal his message in every language as it clearly doesn't approve of us communicating in different languages? Or is its plan to weed out those worthy by revealing itself only to those who by happenstance understand the language it prefers?
Beard must be on miracle grow, 😂
I JUST watched the video on if God can communicate clearly
Matt, have you read the book "In The Light Of Truth" by ABD-RU-SHIN? If yes, your thoughts, please.
I think if God wants they could do the thing you say but with a word that looks unrecognizable, and yet everyone understands it completely or perhaps everyone that sees it sees it in their native language. But they still haven't for some reason.
If a divine message manifested itself in the sky at the same time Every day above Brazil before slowly descending and breaking up into mana bread over the course of a few hours, it wouldn't eliminate all the possibilities I can think of, but it would come pretty close.
Unfortunately, pretty close still isn't enough.
lmao, "JimBob" out of his trailer, .... is this a reference to MadeByJimBob? Hilarious if true.
In your crusade against god(s), please define what you mean by god. Atheists usually define god as an invisible supernatural magical superpower interventionist entity. Well, that narrow definition of deity can be very easy to debunk. I challenge you to define god in some other ways.
Read Richard Carrier's blog to see proof that a god cannot logically exist.
Is there a link?
I agree, no benevolent God would allow Richard Carrier to have a blog
Unfortunately you can "prove“ whatever you want with logical arguments.
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Fortunately though, you can't prove whatever you want with illogical arguments.
@@ramigilneas9274No you can’t.
I feel like that's where the "free will" bullshit comes in, at least qith christianity. God doesn't want to truly and demonstrably show himself, because he wants people to have a false sense of choice, which ultimately boils down to needing to believe in order to believe.
Wait, but maybe god exists, wants you to know it, but wants you to do something first.
Similar to a vampire. It wants to get in your home and eat you, but needs you to invite it in first.
This way, it would be your problem. Maybe passing some kind of test.
I'm not a believer, btw. Just playing with the argument.
If Christians got a message broadcasted directly to their minds that told them they believed in the wrong god, would they accept that? 😂 I bet they wouldn’t.
I was (and still am) a big fan on Matt, but I really prefer to see him in debates (and even in call in shows) rather in such videos - as they became repeatative and frankly boring and overly detailed and even weird (like that latest biology gender video too in-depth to understand or follow, long, boring and over-detailed), and just to keep video content coming.
I understand I might be non-objective seeing so many of his videos over the years that it can be more informational for those who just statrred following him while feeling repeatable for me - but still have to say it.
Debates is where Matt shines like no other. Where he really stands out.
UA-cam "blog-type" video making - there are so many others more young, relevant and interesting to watch.
The deeper I get into the atheist community, the more I’m an advocate for every atheist starting a channel or page to add their voice. We have to counter the theists and misinformation.
I’m sure there are a lot of people that benefit from these videos.
They wouldn't even need to learn "russian." All they needed to learn was the words they "got from God"
And the funny thing is, traditions that include supposedly access to different languages, like Pentacostals, are down to “heavenly languages” that cannot be understood by anyone other than on-the-spot “interpreters”.
There is no way of cross referencing their “interpretation”.
Why did you cry and run off the stage with Andrew Wilson, and yet mock the faith yourself. Can’t handle it. 🤣
It's disappointing that you don't touch up more on Anthropology and how it actually disproves the existence of "gods" via Anthropomorphism.
Anthropology combined with the behavioral and cognitive sciences proves that "gods" are nothing more than delusions derived from the mental constructs of anthropomorphic projections that are validated only by anthropocentric reasoning.
The insubstantial and arbitrary concept of "gods" contains no realistic or plausible justification beyond these projections and assumptions, so it's a bit silly to argue for or against any other position, especially if one were to title themselves as an 'atheist'; because all you're really achieving there is providing further undue relevance for the insubstantial and unjustified concept of theism.
Its because a lot of theists will ignore literal hours of lecture and entire shelves of textbooks as "that's just not true", and nothing will ever convince them that it is
@keegan6388 yep, and that's why we should no longer continue to play by their terms and conditions by submitting to terminology that they assert against critics, such as 'agnostic' or 'atheist'.
It's best to stop waiting for God to do something to cause you to believe he exists. Let it go. He doesn't exist. It is a waste of your limited time alive; your time is better spent living the best you can.
Science does not provide answers, but it _does_ reveal reality.
God provides answers, but none about reality.
Science: What causes certain diseases? (Question!) Germs! (Answer!)
Science: How many and what are the planets that revolve around the sun? (Question!) 8 Planets revolve around the sun! (Answer!)
Science: What moves and gives shape to continents? (Question!) Plate Tectonics (Answer!)
POINT! Science produces questions and answers!
@@mcotto4083 Hmm... I don't know what to reply.
However, my lack in luck of finding adequate words, does not in any way mean that you are correct in your take on my philosophical statement.
Science is a process, a method. It shines a light on reality, revealing it. It does not provide questions nor answers. You do, ie the scientist does, after interpreting the observed result of an experiment deviced according to a hypothetical question. Or by collating data, etc.
Coolating data... is having a beer watching Star Trek.
Be well.
As I understand it’s impossible to get evidence for a being being a God because what evidence can there be for an entity being supernatural and having created the universe from nothing.
It's powerful enough to create a universe from nothing and interact with the physical world but not powerful enough to give evidence of its existence?🤔
If it interacts with space and time then there should be evidence.
"There are things we know, that we will never understand. and there are things we will never know." ~ Max Maven
Saying words in Russian to multiple people whilst they are asleep, hypnotised, semi unconscious etc, would be a more likely answer than a God did it!
In saying that!
1. Personal experience may in fact be true, it's just that this claimed God decided to be very sneaky!
2. Unknown phenomoners close to say a definition of a miracle, could be sufficient to point to a maybe God. Believing in it, wouldn't be nonsense.
3. Picking the number you wrote down a decade ago, is actually a bad reason to believe, especially if multiple people win the lotto each week!
4. Evidence must point to that believed in thing, not something else, such as Russian language in your head.
5. Merely not understanding why the stars swivel in loops on a believed in flat Earth, doesn't mean God! Nor Russian language in a surgically inserted tiny speaker in your head!
You are looking for objections...
youre wrong, im just not convinced by you
Everyone will be convinced when they die.
Everyone is saved and so God doesn’t need to do anything.
Most will learn the hard way that God’s ways are the very best.
If you say so 😅
The hard way or the only way?
What is the hard way, and why is there a hard way in the first place if "everyone is saved?"
@@damon22441 because you are in school and you’re going to learn either way
@@Move_I_Got_This-b3v Sounds like you are wasting the one life you actually have , to fairy tales , sad very sad
Why only after we die?