The Engineering Behind Workshop 5001's $1M Porsche 911 | Carfection 4K
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2019
- When one of Marlon's clients noticed the shell of this 1972 Porsche 911 sitting in the corner of his workshop, he requested Marlon and his team build one of the most beautiful restomods we've laid eyes on. This is the story behind that build.
Photography provided by Ben Massey for Workshop 5001.
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That one fly close to the mic is really trying it's best to irritate me :D
Great interview, great car!
Great video Henry. For $1,000,000 I’d have a new GT2 RS which will be a supremely collectable car, plus a new top end Caterham and a holiday. This car looks like one of those indulgent cars for people with more money than sense. 🇨🇦👍
There is a magic to reimagining older 911s that no other model can match
I'm not sure it's worth the premium over the stuff Singer produces.
Its' very nice and more OEM/Factory looking for an air cooled Porsche, but I agree, the Singer 911's are my favorite and look a bit tougher for a reimagined 911.
It's not. Nice car though
Well it's a long hood, not 964 🤷🏻♂️ The donor car is itself much more expensive and more desirable
@@stefangrubesic2708 not really. 911 T long hood goes for around the same price as a 964 these days.
@@eeterp32 Really? The more you know 🤷🏻♂️
This is a beautiful build and gives me a lot of inspiration for '88 backdate project (also going the 3.4 or 3.5 twin plug route). However, I didn't see anything here that couldn't be achieved for under 200k (not including vehicle). Maybe I'm completely missing something, but this price just seems completely out there and totally overshadows how great of a project this is... 300-350k all in sounds about right when you figure parts, labor and some R&D that went into this project.
However, I would take this over a Singer. I think Singer makes amazing vehicles but they are just a bit too removed from the core 911 DNA. This definitely feels more like a hotrod 911.
A guy commented in the previous video that he wanted to know more about the engineering on this car...today you upload this. He must be happy!
Brilliant! The car, the visionary Marlon and his skilled(!) crew, and the production value here is through the roof. Beautiful. That interior...
Unreal. The level of engineering in this car is unbelievable to me. Absolutely top job done by the 5001 team. And thanks to the owner for underwriting the whole thing! Just wow.
I've never been a 911 fan but these two videos had me gripped. I think I'm starting to come round to Porsche...
The detail he's put in to this custom build is incredible as is the result.
It is stunning car but overpriced as facc
You don't really know how much it actually costs to engineer the car and get the parts and make it all work. Plus if a person wants it and can afford this car then not over priced for them
Awesome! 2200lbs, 1972 rare donor car, amazing final product - total sleeper looking like a longhood restoration 🙌
It is worth whatever the owner was willing to pay for it.
It is very hard to see why this can justify a $1M price tag, twice the price of a Singer! It is mostly stock parts by the sounds of things apart from the engine, suspension and interior. I would love to see a breakdown of their invoice to see how on earth they ended up at that figure. The poor guy that commissioned this has been well and truly had!
Whether it's worth $1M is something only the owner can decide. But for me, if I had all the money in the world, I'd take this over a Singer. The Singer is a work of art, but it's not actually designed to drive well. It may go fast in a straight line, and it may sound good, and look gorgeous while doing it, but there's almost nothing been done to the suspension, and the wheels are massively wider and have huge offset compared to stock, so all they've created is an offset widebody (effectively a very classy RWB in simple engineering terms) with nothing done to compensate for all the handling compromises that brings. You can see it in every driving video. It's just not as smooth, or as balanced as this. I can see why people are seduced by the Singer, but the fact of the matter is it's a very pretty, obsessively-built artwork. The philosophy of this is clearly to create something that gives the best driving experience while also being fancy. Big difference.
(I should add the DLS is likely a lot better to drive, but given it has has bespoke suspension designed by Williams, it damn well should handle a lot better).
@@ChrisNichollsPhoto I'm struggling to take this reply seriously. Are you saying that Singer are incapable of adding some KW coil-overs, control arms and setting up a decent geometry?!
On your second point you are absolutely correct in that at this price point one of the only comparable cars is the Singer DLS. This can more easily justify its price with its the extensive research and development with Willams and even Mr Mezger himself.
In stark comparison this workshop 5001 car looks so over priced it is borderline fraud!
Each car probably takes at least a year to build, ~2000 hours. Body shop, mechanics, interior trimmers charging from $50-$150+/hour. Add to that the cost of new OEM Porsche parts, materials, bespoke/custom engineered parts, coveted used parts, and the car itself, I can see it all adding up really fast, however probably not far beyond $500k. Shop is definitely making a killing off rich Porsche fanatics...
@@robburton8462 No, you didn't read my reply properly. Of course Singer is capable of fitting what this company does. The thing is, they don't (KWs aside). Go check their specs page. They literally only add the KW coilovers, upgrade the bushes and swaybars, and if you pay more money, fit Ohlins and a set of Evo uprights. None of which do anything to offset the negative handling effects of a huge increase in track via wheel offset only. If they cared about handling in the non-DLS versions, they'd do the correct thing and redo the suspension geometry from scratch to compensate for scrub. They haven't, which, as I said, reinforces the fact that Singers are very pretty and fast, but are not designed to handle as well as they could.
This particular company avoids most of those issues by simply not going very wide in the body. They therefore don't have scrub radius issues to the same extent.
@@ChrisNichollsPhoto Have you ever driven a Singer or an early 911? Because they have very different goals and outcomes. I promise if you drive a singer you will not think it has poor handling. I think you are missing the point of both cars. The singer is supposed to be the ultimate aircooled 911. Its based on a 964 chassis. The 5001 has "upgraded" suspension and geometry from the newer cars ie. 964. I think its stupid to claim that one car is poorly engineered and the other car that has the same suspension components is superior. The 5001 is obviously a very well executed hot rod based on a pre 73' 911. I think what most people dont realize is that nearly every part of a pre 73' is twice the price of 964 components. So it makes sense that it would cost nearly twice as much as a singer.
Singer any day of the week. This is just ridiculous. I don’t see why this is worth the money. At this rate, kick in a few more quid and you can get a Singer DLS
but,.. they like to get creative & they "cover things that are not usually covered" ... so... there's obv. nearly 250k in that....
RaptorV1USA lol maybe. But what would that even include? Singer already lines the engine compartment in leather
@@Spartan168 but what GRADE.of leather... I mean... Gotta be 50k difference. In the top quality leather vs the cheap Chinese stuff right.....
Yeah... But there is a fine line to the concept of cover things that aren't usually covered and put leather in right spots. I think
This is a great vid and I love to see/hear from the builders and their ideas. Even got me trying to see how I can use Jabroc on my car haha.
How is this worth $500k more than a singer?
Try to buy a singer for 500 thousand
A new singer just finished was 1 million dollars
This is also a classic Porsche unlike what Singer starts with.
These guys are not making as many cars as Singer. Rarity = $$$.
Regardless, there is no way this car is should cost $1m.
We did several of these cars to a very similar spec about 10-12 years ago here in Germany. Bodys were acid dipped, restored, seam welded, etc. Motors and suspensions were not excessive but nowhere near stock and very solid street/track day combos. Interiors were completely re-done. And all by German craftsmen (just to add to the mystique LOL). With all work, parts, project management, etcetc they were in the ballpark of 1/10th of what this car is supposedly going at. So allow for 10-12 years of inflation, truly OTT work and parts (sold at prices including mystique, aura, and Porsche-Tax) and triple the entry price for a restorable base vehicle... you're still going to have a hard time topping $250k by much - and that is with really only possible by going truly OTT on EVERYTHING. So go excessively nuts on everything, find only the most expensive vendors and sub-contractors, charge $500/hr for your own shop labor and maybe manage to double that figure. So now you're approaching $500k (which I have an insanely difficult time imagining achieving, even with trying). So where is the other $500k? And the $1000 + work-paint-and-installation splitter is not going to cover that difference.
In contrast to this car, Singer makes a lot of their own parts including a good portion of the body, has Cosworth or Ed Pink build their engines (which is OTT), and, aside from everything else, sells a bit of their own mystique. And the only Singer that I have ever heard of which was supposed to be in that price range was the Singer/Williams F1 Engineering DLS. Not the same as this on any level.
"We talk the clients out of AC, heat..." It's not a track car - why on earth would you do that? You already put in 50 lbs of extra leather.
Ikr, I understand ac but heat?? It’s such a simple system and who doesn’t like to drive on a cool morning
@@jrew3569 because heating systems in old 911s are a pain in the ass to get working at 100% LOL
jsquared1013 maybe messing with all the cables controlling the vents up front is PITA but that’s nothing next to the amount of work they put everywhere else in those cars, the heat exchangers are super simple
Since your last video the 911 FB groups are buzzing about how this price makes sense. The consensus is that it does not. I've never built one so I can't say what it does or does not cost, but I would really love to see the BOM and labor hours that go into a build like this.
If you don't factor in the vehicle price, I can't see more than 200k here in parts and labor. It sounds like the shop is trying to recoup R&D costs upfront from previous builds. This shop blew this chance at some awesome exposure by not pricing this build at around 300-350k all-in. They would have had a waiting list already with deposits and after the first 10 cars or so, be making a profit.
Early 911's cost twice as much as 964's across the board. Everything about them is more specialized, rare, and expensive. It makes sense that this would cost twice as much as a singer. Not to mention this company clearly isnt capable of production like singer, therefore they have to cover their ass with limited builds.
focusboy I’m not sure where you are getting that information from but it’s simply not true. I have owned both a 964 and my current early 911 and while some things are more expensive on one platform, there are also things that are cheaper on the other. Both will have their challenges and advantages but there is definitely not 2x cost difference. My build will be very close to what is shown in this video when finished (not going full KW suspension) and I’ll have maybe 100k invested doing most of the labor myself.
Also Singer is on a whole other level when it comes to their builds. Completely bespoke carbon bodies, complete interiors with all of the creature comforts included, and some of the best motors in the business are just a few of the things Singer is doing better than just about anyone.
@@paul_howey shop rate is probably $125 or more at that place. A couple thousand hours on a car like that might get the shell built and painted so that's a quarter of the price right there. Add in body parts (price yourself some thin gauge RS panels from Porsche lately?) and supplies and a donor shell and you've blown half your million dollar budget right there.
Beautiful. This is stunningly beautiful
If I ever come across a lot of money and not need to worry this is the shop I would go to for the build. I love singer and there are others but this is an incredible shop. The first build he did I fell in love with but all of them are impressive
So you’re bringing a flyswatter to all future interviews I assume? 🤣👍
This vid is up there with the manual GT3 vid. Well done, thank you and keep up the good work.
Excellent, simplicity is beautiful
Great Video explaining all the little details 👍 What an amazing Machine 👌 Saving for my dream 73 👍
For a million bucks I would at least ask for a decent gap on the oil door
THIS!!!!! lol....my OCD going crazy ....
@@RaptorV1USA Not OCD for a 7 figure car you'll expect better fit and finish yeah it has F1 technically but it didn't pay for the research and development for F1
@@chinaman69.1 ..you misunderstood.
I agree.
And IMHO it's def. OCD most ppl don't pay attn to detail...I am cursed with hyper awareneas and ocd I don't miss shit.... After 5 pics of the oil door being fabbed, the last one is it on the car and not at all centered. Shit jumped out and bit me...
@@RaptorV1USAoh lol sorry but I guess I am OCD recessed my taillights 3 times because of the gap I guess some people just care more than others
@@chinaman69.1 welcome to da club! Been there many times whether it's the car or hell a mtn bike....don't get me started on the house for fux sake It's likely a curse..but,......ya just gotta embrace it :-) peace have a gr8 holiday weekend. ;-)
I admire this kind of work in the sense that while not economical or even sensible, makes for an interesting car. It's certainly not worth more than a new Porsche but it deserves it's own place in the garage.
That was a treat. Thanks.
Always enjoy these inspiring videos
one thing is for sure, the owner is richer than anyone in the comments sections
True
weeeeeeeeell... atleast he was, before he bought this overpriced car.
Obviously dumber too.
Yes and has a lower IQ.
Simply brilliant!
that darn fly in the mic!
I thought that fly was in my ear 😛
Just got better than previous video ❤️
Beautiful build
What a badass machine
All that blah blah blah, still don't justify the million dollar price tag
Good one DH. Too wrapped up in "look at me".
"Idiot Tax" would be the right Answer.....
Yes
It makes more sense in the context of the full interview. Seems to have real engineering integrity and some lovely bespoke touches. I believe Singers in comparison now cost way more than S500k and as someone pointed out, the 72 donor car is for many, particularly Americans, the holy grail and significantly more expensive. $1m is still eye watering for a hot rod but for those in the UK, it’s notable that the sterling cost would be way way less a few years ago.
awesome 👏🏻
No other brand on the planet with anywhere near this level of compatibility for future tuning.
Nice!
Thanks for the detailed video...I think that it's for sure a masterpiece, needed a lot of work and expensive bits used...but 1 million is so far away and apart from grabbing attention that is mostly deserved for beauty and performance I don't explain to me so much the skyrocket price. Congrats anyway!
Makes one appreciate the price tag a bit more. Love that engine sound!!!
Still beautifull, still not worth $1M
Masterpiece!!!
Saw this at Luft, The splitter brew me to it. Without a doubt this car is a beaut, but at no time did I feel I was admiring a 1M car. Guess I have a lot to learn.......
when he said the skid plates are made of wood, i knew he was going to make an F1 reference soon after... literally every builder who puts wood under their car says "bCuZ eFf OnE."
What camera did you use to record this? I´m amazed by the quality! Well done :)
Wonder how well that wooden scrub piece works when attached to a flimsy fiberglass bumper cover?
sick
Genius!
Until gasoline is outlaw, keep building man, keep it high comp, N.A and iTBs👏👏👏👏
Now we're talking!
Lovely car.
Dreamer calling it a million dollar car
I love what guys like these, Singer and Magnus Walker, to name a few, have been creating, using the old, air cooled 911's over the past few years. If they had the money, why anyone would choose a modern, liquid cooled model, over a bespoke, hand built original, is beyond me. Obviously the current 911's are fast, hugely capable and beautifully engineered cars, but i don't think they have any where near the character or purity of the earlier cars, and when done properly, a "resto modded" air cooled car can be just as reliable, usable and not to mention capable, as any of the current line up. I bet they are a whole lot more fun to drive too, and certainly prettier. In my opinion anyway.
Nice Beatle
Wow.
Admire the hard work and attention that's gone into this but I'd rather have a Singer Porsche, Gunther Works or go full out and get the Singer DLS.
What size tires? Maybe a link to them please. Thanks!
Cool story bruh. Nice car. 1mill Frankenstein 911 seems too optimistic but good luck to ya.
Nothing better than that big cat snarl on the overrun.
Alot of commenters think singers cost about 400 thousand. Maybe year's ago. A brand new blue one was recently finished the cost one million dollars. That car is not the singer-williams collaboration either. Just singer
Look at the million dollar cars built in their great, spanking clean workshops with rooms for each stage.
Now take a look at the 5001 workshop.
Quite revealing.
This way too expensive. There will obviously be someone who wants it but still. Even if you love Porsches i don't feel like that much money would be well spent.
To each his own
This will be a collector's piece for someone who wants it
I need one in green;)
I really hope he was exaggerating about the price of the Jabroc wood splitter when he said it was a $1,000 piece of wood. Pegasus Auto Racing sells full 39”x77” sheets of Jabroc in multiple thicknesses with a 12mm or 1/2 inch thick sheet costing $659. This is what their website says about Jabroc.
“Jabroc is longer-wearing and less expensive than carbon fiber. It is about half the strength of steel, but it is 80% lighter than steel. It is also quicker to machine than steel and can be machines with regular metal or wood working tools which means savings on fabrication costs. Jabroc is non-conductive and non-sparking, which increases safety when used for skid plates.”
Shops have to make money on parts and supplies too. Sure you can buy it from Pegasus for that plus shipping and taxes and cut it at home with your jigsaw. But somebody had to choose, purchase, receive, design, cnc cut, choose and source fasteners, install, finish, etc. That's probably a $2500 piece of wood if not more.
Completely insane the price for the P.O.S. offered
IMO, the appeal of having an older car like this is being able to say that you did the work yourself restoring it. And if I had a million dollars, I'd probably just buy a modern GT3 RS for much less.
what is stitch weld?
Million quid. Gold plated everywhere.
How many manhours went into this build?
Amazing car and I appreciate the work that went into it, but for $1 million!? Not sure I’d pay that price especially when Singer offers amazing quality and more interior features for less money. Either way, as I noted, magnificent car!
Congrats yu value products ovur people
Conversión de un millón de dólares y utiliza fibra de vidrio en la carrocería, por favor.
That fly on the mic lol
Next time dude, you should go to Singer workshop with your $1M, and they will give you an ultimate edition of your 911
Watched the video to see where the 1m was spent, like most in the comment section I don’t see it.
Waaaaah.... In despite of the stratospheric price....
(just crazy??? People even forget that very first Singer 911 used to cost 150.000 in 2013 and now? 450...500? And this one 1M?? Jeeeesus.. Well good for Marlon....).....
I really love Marlon's philosophy about aircooled 911.... Way more genuine than the Singer ones... I'm tired of those backdated cars... 320 hp with this 3.2.... My favorite engine...damn'... And it sounds like a 2.7 rs... If I had the money (to through around)... It'll go to Workshop 5001... For sure...👍✨💥🔥
Maybe they're including R&D on that fuel injection system.. that, or the yellow lug nuts are $100 ea..
I love old porsches. But there is no way that should be 1 million dollars. Its nicely restored, but they are making bank on this.
1:04 Buzzz
Who else saw The Scream on the aluminum panel?
checked comments, can confirm there is no fly inside my headphones
These classic 911s are probably the closest ever car design has come to perfection in terms of form, style and proportions.
The world these people inhabit is very different to our world.
300hp at 1000rpm? That's amazing
*Eight* thousand
So good! I am surprised this channel has been a success whilst @AutotopiaLA remains ATM sub 60k subs!
Beautiful, stunning, dream car. But a million dollars?
You only need a small loan. where is a problem
nsperience ........I’ll call the bank!
5:33 I guess he means "Luftgekühlt" not "Luftekult"
Wow stitch welding original spot welded panels -- How much did that stiffen the platform?
Most people are not going to understand the difference that makes - FWIW - the build order for the actual 1970 W30 oldmobile that paced the indy 500 states triple spot-welds for the floor pans, frame supports, rockers wheelhouses.
I have stated multiple times that stitch or even hammer /dolly edges flat and then use a tig torch and butter the edge would add mounds of stiffness without adding any weight.
Singer: Am I a joke to you?
I was going to skip this out of frustration over these million dollar Porsche's (as good as they may be) then I saw it was by Carfection.....so I said I'd give it ago
4:25 flys on the mic
Ok
" it may look like a $3 piece of wood from home depot but...." ok just stop there.
I cringed so hard. Either he sells that material, or he's easly manipulatable.
After the owner read the comment section. He finally realized he fu*ked up on the financial part.
Is this GMR?
I kept waiting to be blown away... but never was. Cool car, and would probably be priced right at $250k. The problem here is that Singer exists and they sell a better car for far less money.
A million?? Where does the money go? This better come with very rare materials and a lifetime service.
I'm going to take a wild guess that nobody has actually paid $1m for this. I'm reckoning that figure has been thrown out there because it's a headline figure that has everyone talking and is getting them massive exposure (as I certainly had never heard of him/them before now). Oh anyone can say that their vehicle is x amount of money to buy/build..... but that doesn't mean they are going to get it. Hey, Carfection...... I have a 1992 Volvo 940 Estate with nearly 400k miles on the clock sitting in a yard down here - I'm asking £150k for it...... fancy coming to do a feature on it? 😉
Million Dololololololol!
and it's gone