If you SLICE with a strong grip then you have far too many compensations in your swing to ever be consistent. Let’s fix it. Follow & then DM me on the Skillest Golf Coaching App.
crazy how accurate this is, and i've never seen it explained this well in a video before (i've seen tons of them) i learnt by myself during lockdown and spent a whole year with that kind of grip, compensated the left misses by kind of "driving" the ball, and the inconsistency was crazy went to my first golf lesson and changed it immediately, first i lost a whole club, but a few weeks later i had already gained it back by compressing the ball (which i thought i was doing when closing the face, turns out it is something different) the difference in dispersion was abysmal from day 1, and dropped from 24 hcp to 18 the next tournament keep the good work Andy, hope you gain the followers you deserve
This video is amazing; thank you. If I'd seen this 10 months ago, when I first started playing, it all would have been a little less frustrating; especially around set-up. When you watch it, it seems like common sense what you say, but if you're new to it, you don't think that when you are stood over a ball. It's allowing me to hit straighter and more consistently. Thank you
Andy, completely agree about losing pro v1s. Get yourself a few dozen Kirkland signatures for your demonstration videos and hit those shots to show exactly what you're saying.
Such true words thanks for all the lessons / tips got down to 12 from 15 only playing once a week thanks again it hard work put practice in you gain. By the way have you been giving Rick lessons ? I am ask you could you give Guy some lessons as he will never beat Rick .
I’ve followed you for at least a year, probably 2. I’ll check the Skillest out. The pro is wanting me to come inside out, which is happening, but the strike is a lot less consistent than it’s ever been. When I hit it well, I’m hitting a beautiful slight draw that is going a good distance for me (e.g. 180 yards carry with an 8 iron). I’m 54 yo, so not a young buck anymore.
Hi Richard, I’d be happy to take a look and help you out. Maybe sounds like the clubface is far too strong because an 8 iron shouldn’t go 180. If it can then there are probably fundamental issues creating that which will therefore lead to the inconsistent strikes too. My skillest link is skillest.app.link/profile?u=g93yTpGrdMJBCMDST
Question, what happens if you are a very low handicapper, that has a strong (or weak) grip, and can manage their bad strike days, by understanding how they can play with what they have on that day. I’ve seen many a “bad’ grip low low handicapper, play good golf. But a lot of their gains comes from smarter golfing decisions than a going through a grip change that can utterly destroy their way of playing. ( i do agree though the way too far under or over with the bottom hand can kill a swing, but it doesnt stop someone who has a good golfing brain from shoot a respectable score).
Nice question 👊🏽 I played with Ash from The Golf Supply, he plays off +1 and has a very strong grip. Would I change it? Probably not! He has an extremely high skill level. Majority of am golfers are 16+ hcap therefore dont have the skill level to cope with such a basic set up fault
It’s also a mistake a lot of pro’s i have been to make, they teach too by the book rather, than seeing what the student can do with their body first and understanding why they can’t (or can do) what the “book” says. Some people literally can’t get into the positions some pros say they should (or the book). And this accounts for a lot of money wasted and also time spent. A good pro will always work within the students limits. And improve on what they can actually do at that time… thank you for the reply Andy and thank you for the content you produce
I need help. I had a neutral grip when I started lessons, and my PGA instructor has completely moved me to a strong grip (3 knuckles) and is changing everything with my wrists, path, etc. I can’t tell whether he’s helping me or selling me a bag of goods.
Another great tip Andy. I've found recently that my 100 mtr and in shots have been going left even though driver and longer irons are pretty much straight. After having a few practise swings without a ball it seems when I pull one of my more lofted clubs out of the bag I adopt a stronger grip. Looks like more practice at the range but before that I have a comp to play on Thursday so will focus on grip and see how I go.
THANKS. This probably is the culprit to my recently recurring pushes and hooks. My game's been good the past months until I decided to go down the shaft-lean-extra-strong-grip rabbit hole. Why? To gain some extra yards and correct unplanned fades. Stupid me. Now most of my rounds, I'm just in a constant state of recovery and adjustment. Frustrating sh*t. Come to think of it, it's most probably my grip - while typing this, I realized I've been manufacturing the release action. And how can as free release happen with a gorilla vice grip on the club 😂 Sorry for the long post. I guess I'm just trying to self-soothe. Golf IS hard. Haha! Again, thank you.
Great content Andy - the grip is so important to the game [ I know from my last lesson with my pro!] Fully approve of you treasuring your Pro V1s - treat them like gold dust Cheers
You're half wrong and also half right..... IF someone with a strong GLOVE grip AND ... AND with that a very WEAK underneath other hand .... then it's a disaster .... while actually MOST with strong grip on the glove hand WITHOUT that weak other hand... it can be really good.... almost ALL good golfer i've ever seen in my life have a strong GLOVE hand rather than anything closer to centered.... !!!!
You’re getting confused with this tip. I’m not telling Highly skilled sportspeople to change their grip. Its to 14+ handicaps who arent highly skilled. I’ve played with top players who have strong grips but most ams who have it arent good enough to work with it
Spot on Andy. I´ve been fighting a strong grip for years which came about from reading a golf magazine article when I first started playing, about Freddy Couples having a strong grip. I the last couple of years I´ve worked on a more neutral grip so with the woods I can hit a fade nicely, but now and again this old bad habit of regripping sneaks back in a suddenly I´ve hit a snap hook or worse, shut the face completely that I hit a heel shank low and left. Whereas my more neutral iron grip produces a little fade, unless I´m swinging it full out, then I will over draw it, so have to hit a long club to get the same distance with a more neutral grip. So basically, everything you just said applies here.
I feel like this is just one of those videos that tells you the opposite of what everyone else tells you to do to stand out. There are far far too many professional coaches that recommend a strong grip to believe that it's ruining your game
I don’t make videos ‘to stand out’. A little stronger than neutral isn’t an issue. Too strong causes swing and face manipulation throughout the swing which for most amateurs who do not have a high skill level leads to inconsistency.
@@andycartergolftotally agree Andy. Strong grip has had a massive influence on my swing. Surely a better way to solve this would be to find your natural grip position and build from there.
The problem is a lot of amateur golfer natural positions are the problems but we need to work within a controlled framework to allow them to use some natural positions alongside some technically better positions. An online golf tip doesn’t fit every golfer. In fact it may only fit 10% but another my suit 80%…. It’s generic I may do a tip next month and say how amazing the strong grip is for adding distance and improving your impact position!
Then you are making too many compensations in your swing. Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/dgaXsoGuBu0/v-deo.htmlsi=WeMZCpu6bbEsxFHd … it may not be related to your swing but shows how strong his grip is and he was slicing
If you SLICE with a strong grip then you have far too many compensations in your swing to ever be consistent. Let’s fix it.
Follow & then DM me on the Skillest Golf Coaching App.
crazy how accurate this is, and i've never seen it explained this well in a video before (i've seen tons of them)
i learnt by myself during lockdown and spent a whole year with that kind of grip, compensated the left misses by kind of "driving" the ball, and the inconsistency was crazy
went to my first golf lesson and changed it immediately, first i lost a whole club, but a few weeks later i had already gained it back by compressing the ball (which i thought i was doing when closing the face, turns out it is something different)
the difference in dispersion was abysmal from day 1, and dropped from 24 hcp to 18 the next tournament
keep the good work Andy, hope you gain the followers you deserve
This comment should be pinned for everyone to see 👊🏽 great work. Keep it up
Good stuff
This video is amazing; thank you. If I'd seen this 10 months ago, when I first started playing, it all would have been a little less frustrating; especially around set-up. When you watch it, it seems like common sense what you say, but if you're new to it, you don't think that when you are stood over a ball. It's allowing me to hit straighter and more consistently. Thank you
Its all part of the learning. Keep enjoying this mental golf!
Nice to see you're over 80,000 subs...congrats
Andy, completely agree about losing pro v1s.
Get yourself a few dozen Kirkland signatures for your demonstration videos and hit those shots to show exactly what you're saying.
Very interesting, Andy. i’m going to check this out.
I tried this change this morning and my irons were going where I wanted them to and even got my first Eagle 2 of the year 🎉, thanks Andy 👍.
Change that name to EagleJohn 👊🏽
Such true words thanks for all the lessons / tips got down to 12 from 15 only playing once a week thanks again it hard work put practice in you gain.
By the way have you been giving Rick lessons ? I am ask you could you give Guy some lessons as he will never beat Rick .
Great work buddy. Thanks for watching and trusting the content to improve.
Guy should never beat Rick.
I’ve followed you for at least a year, probably 2. I’ll check the Skillest out. The pro is wanting me to come inside out, which is happening, but the strike is a lot less consistent than it’s ever been. When I hit it well, I’m hitting a beautiful slight draw that is going a good distance for me (e.g. 180 yards carry with an 8 iron). I’m 54 yo, so not a young buck anymore.
Hi Richard, I’d be happy to take a look and help you out.
Maybe sounds like the clubface is far too strong because an 8 iron shouldn’t go 180. If it can then there are probably fundamental issues creating that which will therefore lead to the inconsistent strikes too.
My skillest link is skillest.app.link/profile?u=g93yTpGrdMJBCMDST
Damn Andy… I almost took that personal. 😂 I will definitely be taking this advice to the course. Cheers friend 🍻
Hahaha cheers James .
glad it resonates
Question, what happens if you are a very low handicapper, that has a strong (or weak) grip, and can manage their bad strike days, by understanding how they can play with what they have on that day. I’ve seen many a “bad’ grip low low handicapper, play good golf. But a lot of their gains comes from smarter golfing decisions than a going through a grip change that can utterly destroy their way of playing. ( i do agree though the way too far under or over with the bottom hand can kill a swing, but it doesnt stop someone who has a good golfing brain from shoot a respectable score).
Nice question 👊🏽 I played with Ash from The Golf Supply, he plays off +1 and has a very strong grip. Would I change it? Probably not!
He has an extremely high skill level.
Majority of am golfers are 16+ hcap therefore dont have the skill level to cope with such a basic set up fault
It’s also a mistake a lot of pro’s i have been to make, they teach too by the book rather, than seeing what the student can do with their body first and understanding why they can’t (or can do) what the “book” says. Some people literally can’t get into the positions some pros say they should (or the book). And this accounts for a lot of money wasted and also time spent. A good pro will always work within the students limits. And improve on what they can actually do at that time… thank you for the reply Andy and thank you for the content you produce
I need help. I had a neutral grip when I started lessons, and my PGA instructor has completely moved me to a strong grip (3 knuckles) and is changing everything with my wrists, path, etc. I can’t tell whether he’s helping me or selling me a bag of goods.
Been working on this recently....a lot of balls now going right 😂.
Then you’re doing it right.
Now time to release the club, the speed and improve your impact 👊🏽
Another great tip Andy. I've found recently that my 100 mtr and in shots have been going left even though driver and longer irons are pretty much straight. After having a few practise swings without a ball it seems when I pull one of my more lofted clubs out of the bag I adopt a stronger grip. Looks like more practice at the range but before that I have a comp to play on Thursday so will focus on grip and see how I go.
THANKS. This probably is the culprit to my recently recurring pushes and hooks. My game's been good the past months until I decided to go down the shaft-lean-extra-strong-grip rabbit hole. Why? To gain some extra yards and correct unplanned fades. Stupid me. Now most of my rounds, I'm just in a constant state of recovery and adjustment. Frustrating sh*t. Come to think of it, it's most probably my grip - while typing this, I realized I've been manufacturing the release action. And how can as free release happen with a gorilla vice grip on the club 😂 Sorry for the long post. I guess I'm just trying to self-soothe. Golf IS hard. Haha! Again, thank you.
Love the comment. Sometimes typing it out helps give some clarity and light bulb moments
@andycartergolf Andy! I played yesterday with a neutral grip and it went really well! Thank you, man!
Great content Andy - the grip is so important to the game [ I know from my last lesson with my pro!]
Fully approve of you treasuring your Pro V1s - treat them like gold dust
Cheers
Absolutely, thanks Malcolm
I 100% agree with you. I’ve always used a neutral to slightly weak grip. I can hit it high, or low. And can also work the ball either direction.
Amazing ... i realised this today and made the change !!! this is good advice feels weak at first but works
The initial change is a pretty weak, ball goes higher & shorter but that will improve over time for sure
I have a stronger grip for years. As you say, lots of good stuff but the bad shot is a low running duck hook!!😢
You're half wrong and also half right..... IF someone with a strong GLOVE grip AND ... AND with that a very WEAK underneath other hand .... then it's a disaster .... while actually MOST with strong grip on the glove hand WITHOUT that weak other hand... it can be really good.... almost ALL good golfer i've ever seen in my life have a strong GLOVE hand rather than anything closer to centered.... !!!!
You’re getting confused with this tip. I’m not telling Highly skilled sportspeople to change their grip. Its to 14+ handicaps who arent highly skilled.
I’ve played with top players who have strong grips but most ams who have it arent good enough to work with it
Spot on Andy. I´ve been fighting a strong grip for years which came about from reading a golf magazine article when I first started playing, about Freddy Couples having a strong grip. I the last couple of years I´ve worked on a more neutral grip so with the woods I can hit a fade nicely, but now and again this old bad habit of regripping sneaks back in a suddenly I´ve hit a snap hook or worse, shut the face completely that I hit a heel shank low and left. Whereas my more neutral iron grip produces a little fade, unless I´m swinging it full out, then I will over draw it, so have to hit a long club to get the same distance with a more neutral grip. So basically, everything you just said applies here.
Happy to help lol
I feel like this is just one of those videos that tells you the opposite of what everyone else tells you to do to stand out. There are far far too many professional coaches that recommend a strong grip to believe that it's ruining your game
I don’t make videos ‘to stand out’.
A little stronger than neutral isn’t an issue. Too strong causes swing and face manipulation throughout the swing which for most amateurs who do not have a high skill level leads to inconsistency.
@@andycartergolftotally agree Andy. Strong grip has had a massive influence on my swing. Surely a better way to solve this would be to find your natural grip position and build from there.
The problem is a lot of amateur golfer natural positions are the problems but we need to work within a controlled framework to allow them to use some natural positions alongside some technically better positions.
An online golf tip doesn’t fit every golfer. In fact it may only fit 10% but another my suit 80%…. It’s generic
I may do a tip next month and say how amazing the strong grip is for adding distance and improving your impact position!
I have a strong grip but still have a slice ?!
Then you are making too many compensations in your swing.
Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/dgaXsoGuBu0/v-deo.htmlsi=WeMZCpu6bbEsxFHd
… it may not be related to your swing but shows how strong his grip is and he was slicing
Man keep talking, what are you doing. Waist of time.
Waste*
@@andycartergolfI think he wants a weak grip video...or is just an ass 😂