Genius, Mental Illness and Everything in Between: Dr. Lamont Tang at TEDxHongKongED

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  • To what extent is genius and mental illness such as bipolar disorder and schizophrenia related? To what extent do genetics and environment influence genius and mental illness? Do we as a society overestimate and overemphasize the value of intelligence? This talk explores the age-old notion that "genius" and "madness" are related. With the explosion of scientific knowledge on the brain in the last decade, this talk explores the extent to which we currently understand the biological basis of creativity, intelligence, and mental illness.
    Dr. Lamont Tang graduated from Stanford University and received his Ph.D. in Neuroscience at Brandeis University while training under Professor Eve Marder, past President of the Society of Neuroscience. He then continued his post-doctoral fellowship in the Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics at the University of California, San Francisco with Graeme Davis. Lamont has published in top neuroscience and biology journals and his research interests include genetics, genomics, physiology, and theoretical neuroscience. Outside of academia, Lamont is an accomplished musician, having studied under Carol Sindell and Dorothy Delay--one of the world's most renowned violin teachers. Lamont has performed as a soloist with prominent orchestras such as the Oregon Symphony and has also performed in masterclasses with musicians such as Itzhak Perlman, Pinchas Zukeman, Cho-Liang Lin and Glen Dicterow.
    In the spirit of ideas worth spreading, TEDx is a program of local, self-organized events that bring people together to share a TED-like experience. At a TEDx event, TEDTalks video and live speakers combine to spark deep discussion and connection in a small group. These local, self-organized events are branded TEDx, where x = independently organized TED event. The TED Conference provides general guidance for the TEDx program, but individual TEDx events are self-organized.* (*Subject to certain rules and regulations)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 398

  • @carlboudreaux
    @carlboudreaux 5 років тому +24

    I have bi polar disorder.....i could just give up and get a check.....but when I work harder, and try...I do well!!

    • @Maria-du9mf
      @Maria-du9mf 3 роки тому +1

      That's so, so great. Many people who have bi-polar do not accept that they have it and do not get treatment. This means that they suffer far more than they should. Some have anosognosia (meaning that they do not even know that they are ill). It's horrible to see someone not get they help they need. It's awesome that you are able to do WELL!!! CONGRATS!!!!

    • @BURBXN
      @BURBXN 3 роки тому

      Hope ur doing well

    • @reinasvibez8950
      @reinasvibez8950 2 роки тому

      That part same here just have to relax and stay away from stress triggers

    • @buck4science1
      @buck4science1 Рік тому

      Me too! When I don’t have structure I’m a bigger mess than ever

    • @carlboudreaux
      @carlboudreaux Рік тому

      WOW I thought I wrote that last week

  • @tednorton5150
    @tednorton5150 6 років тому +154

    A genius is someone whose mental illness succeeds, a crazy person is someone whose mental illness does not. An "eccentric" person is usually well off. A 'crazy" person is usually of a lower socio economic class.

    • @AngelAPerez-qp3xg
      @AngelAPerez-qp3xg 5 років тому +3

      What is the difusion of dizzines correlative internacionales..in this
      Re.prescription ..and .how can you describe.the anusual.nausea.discribe.the sores in what way are the indications. Active composition of the. Basics .
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    • @anasiver976
      @anasiver976 4 роки тому +1

      unfortunately, i not agree withu, for me, to set a genius or crazy mental illness shud not base on their socio economic'..usually they are came from different background of socio economic.

    • @florahanifah4306
      @florahanifah4306 4 роки тому +1

      @@anasiver976 i think ted norton just trying to be sarcasm
      Thats how society think about genius, crazy, eccentric

    • @lolaispure4296
      @lolaispure4296 4 роки тому

      Wow...right!?

    • @henricodeklerk3168
      @henricodeklerk3168 2 роки тому

      Couldn't have said it better myself

  • @Mad_S
    @Mad_S 5 років тому +55

    I find it hard to take this one seriously. He talks about mental illness as if it is truly something as simple as a cold. He mentions that there is no cure but he fails to mention that its because these illnesses have such vast spectrums and they interconnect with eachother and into the daily life so seamlessly that there is no one process that would cure everyone dealing with any one or multiple of these mental illnesses, there are only ways to cope.

    • @Maria-du9mf
      @Maria-du9mf 3 роки тому +3

      Very true but he wants people to don't have the illness to get the picture that it is no moral failing or fault of anyone. He needs to preach it as not a big deal so that people who don't have it will stop stigmatizing people who do. He did say that within the next decade or two that he sees a cure. It is only good doctors like him who will be working on a cure. We need to support those who have mental illness and be deeply compassionate and understanding because as you pointed out it is a terrible complex and multifaceted illness. We need to educate society but also support good doctors who are trying to find a cure. Good luck in all you do. You obviously are an extremely bright and insightful person.

    • @heartofthunder1440
      @heartofthunder1440 2 роки тому

      Wynonia Judd is a great country singer and she just passed away with mental illness

  • @arabellacox
    @arabellacox 5 років тому +17

    Mental illness is a, combination of Nature/Nurture. A child can be born with a predisposition but Complex Trauma suffered in the developmental years will turn that predisposition into a given. A childs mind is incredibly fragile and must be protected.

    • @DariaRock1
      @DariaRock1 3 роки тому +2

      truth

    • @stephaniedegange2737
      @stephaniedegange2737 2 роки тому

      how dare you imply mental illness is a parent's fault? Most likely it has a high degree of familial genetics.

  • @TekoDevPro
    @TekoDevPro 3 роки тому +5

    " I work hard everyday in spite of feeling so so so depressed. I'm a person who's very introverted, so I don't have any friends. I'm successful in my education, but I feel that I need something else to feel good. Grades don't fill that hole in my heart. "

  • @barbarabrennan1753
    @barbarabrennan1753 7 років тому +102

    The quality of food impacts the wholeness of your existence.

    • @DariaRock1
      @DariaRock1 3 роки тому +1

      truth.. I am sensible to every food really and look for a way to balance out my body with Lyme...

    • @aubadoir.
      @aubadoir. 3 роки тому +1

      You genuinely need to take care of that. It really is everything.

  • @barbarabrennan1753
    @barbarabrennan1753 7 років тому +15

    Severe deprivation creates difficulties. Like not having a car. Having to take bus being subjected to either ostracism or situations thrust upon you. Your brain changes with severe deprivation.

  • @gamezswinger
    @gamezswinger 9 років тому +34

    Very nice talk-told with compassion.

  • @LIVEsuPerHeroeS
    @LIVEsuPerHeroeS 8 років тому +5

    TY for your groundbreaking research into this sensitive subject matter!

  • @ronnieevers5115
    @ronnieevers5115 8 років тому +4

    Scrolling down,,,, reading others comments,,,I hope to one day see your presentation on this subject,,,Dr.Lamont Tang, I really enjoyed your video.

  • @jieunkim9294
    @jieunkim9294 6 років тому +4

    Great speech! Thanks. From the experiences with my two kids who have schizophrenia, I totally agreed what Dr said. They couldn't do higher thinking. They went back to almost 6-8 years ago. Time didn't run in my family.

    • @zohaib5245
      @zohaib5245 Рік тому

      they went back to almost 6 - 8 yeras ago.
      what does that mean???

  • @brezzadestate5114
    @brezzadestate5114 4 роки тому +19

    I have an advanced degree in Psychology, but I've been working in an unrelated professional field for almost 20 years now. I don't believe the field of Psychology has many clear answers, and there are a lot of politics/ego involved in both the practice and academic research. The field has been very reluctant to give up the nurturing narrative as explanatory for the majority of illnesses, despite the fact evidence usually never supports the hypothesis. There are just a few conditions that you can end up with as the result of your environment and parenting. You can end up with trauma and adjustment disorders. That's about it. If it's not specifically trauma or an adjustment disorder, we need to give up looking at the parents as the cause of the problem. Personality disorders are not caused by the environment, unless we are specifically talking about trauma. Most people in the field won't give that up. Anti-social personality disorder and borderline personality disorder have tons of empirical evidence suggesting it's really not an invalidating environment to blame. There are brain differences, genetic lineages involved, and it all can't be explained by, oh, well, the environment caused the brain changes. People just don't want to give that up, because it's so much easier to have someone to blame. It's so scary to admit a person can be born with a particular personality disposition, that they can inherit it, with nobody to blame.

    • @HadithiAbdulle
      @HadithiAbdulle 2 роки тому +1

      Beautiful comment! Thanks

    • @vincec.202
      @vincec.202 2 роки тому +1

      In short, you're mak8ng my point yet again. He's pushing a THEORY in pseudoscience. HIS theory. To say childhood trauma and genetics aren't factors in future "mental illness" diagnosis is absolutely absurd. There's 300 mental illness in the DSM 5. About 6-8 categories under that, and there are DEFINITELY commonalities of people having family history of diagnosis and childhood trauma of the same description.

    • @jewhisperer
      @jewhisperer Рік тому

      Never stop asking questions, doing just fine

  • @sampsonraysimon
    @sampsonraysimon 7 років тому +2

    Thank you, Dr. Tang.

  • @jamespeace1237
    @jamespeace1237 Рік тому

    This man rocks in explanations of insightful knowledge of brain,chemicals that produce serotonin, dopamine..nutritional values .

  • @helRAEzzzer
    @helRAEzzzer 6 років тому +11

    This is my favorite Ted talk that I've seen so far. If I ever got the chance to, I want to research similar things with neurology, genetics, and environment in conection with mental illnesses, but more specifically in children. In the United States, where I live, it's not recommended to diagnose children with serious disorders, as it is less common to show symptoms as children. Yes, childhood development and a child's average behavior patterns versus an adult's can absolutely make diagnosis of mental illnesses more complicated at best with traditional methods, but what if doctors could utilize family history of mental illness, home life knowlage, and MRIs (and other types of brain scans and tests) to better identify schizophrenia from autism, for example as schizophrenic children are often misdiagnosed as autistic. What if there was a way to lessen the chances of a child at higher risk for developing mental illnesses from sevier symptoms or any illness at all? You can try to prevent developing alcoholism and other addiction disorders by looking at family history and avoiding the environmental factors, maybe many mental illnesses can be looked at and handled similarly.
    I have dealt with the handling of juvinial mental illness first hand as a patient. I have had depression since I was about 3 years old. By the time was 10 it became obvious that I had some form of mood disorder and was put in therapy. By age 11 I was on antidepressants, but still only diagnosed with "depression" and "unspecified mood disorder" - though I also had ADHD and ODD on paper at this point. My diagnosis weren't ever really looked at until my first impatient psychiatric hospitalization at age 13. They diagnosed me bipolar and autistic, adding a mood stabilizer to my antidepressant. My first stay was when I first remember having suicidal thoughts, as nothing was explained to me and the treatments offered for children are/were designed to benefit my parents, not me (though I learned this later while ranting with my mum about mental health care frustrations. They were actually surprised when my parents told them they didn't want me drugged to sleep all day, they wanted me to have a productive life.). I've had minor suicidal thoughts before this, though they were so "quiet" for me that I hardly noticed over my daily activities. I'm 27 now and am only recently getting propper diagnosis and treatments. Some of my updated diagnosis were looked into when I was a teenager (16 years old at my second psych stay) but were then decided against. Looking back, there is NO WAY my borderline personality disorder was truly missed, but I wasn't 18 yet. I'm chronically suicidal now and don't anticipate any new treatments I try to help much at this point. I've lived with depression (at the least) for the vast majority of my life, that overly successful treatment will likely cause me to need more outside life skill asistance than I need now, between treatments.
    There is a lot more to my dealings with this stuff than that, but this is a few major points for me. NO CHILD SHOULD BE DISMISSED FOR POSSIBLE ILLNESS! Rare does not equal never. I want to prove that there could be better ways of identifying and treating mental illness in children so kids don't grow up feeling like it's too late for them, like I do most days. I want to lobby with Washington for better care and treatments for children, adolescents, and the 10%-30% of patients that are treatment resistant (maybe there are things that can help this group too that we haven't found yet).
    Sorry for my ramblings.

  • @ronnieevers5115
    @ronnieevers5115 8 років тому +2

    could listen to you for hours,,,

  • @LadyPC
    @LadyPC 4 роки тому +3

    I made a promise to myself that no matter how bad anything ever got, I would NEVER kill myself. Sometimes it can be very irritating, but moving into gratitude and acceptance is where I'm at now!

  • @swarleystinson6733
    @swarleystinson6733 4 роки тому +30

    1:10 *That awkward moment when nobody laughs at your joke*

    • @ezioblu
      @ezioblu 4 роки тому +1

      Lmao

    • @hornyleftbuttcheek856
      @hornyleftbuttcheek856 3 роки тому +1

      Broooo😂

    • @madrio9788
      @madrio9788 3 роки тому +1

      I thought it was hilarious. My neighbors heard me laugh.

    • @lovelypairofscissors
      @lovelypairofscissors 3 роки тому +1

      Is there a deeper pain?

    • @swarleystinson6733
      @swarleystinson6733 3 роки тому +1

      @@lovelypairofscissors *When you are so shy, you couldn't even ask for extra sugar packets or ketchup sachet!* 😥

  • @Nero-was-Right
    @Nero-was-Right 9 років тому +61

    All geniuses have "mental disorders". That is where genius comes from. "Mental disorders" are just a way for normals to label weird people. To try to make it a bad thing to not be normal. But no way I am better than normal people. Normal people are jealous of geniuses like myself and others so they make up things like that to feel better about themselves. Being different isn't bad it's what makes me superior.

    • @linabingbing3881
      @linabingbing3881 6 років тому +14

      Contradicting statement. One person in any status in life is not superior to another sad u believe that u r.

    • @junkynote4799
      @junkynote4799 4 роки тому +1

      @@linabingbing3881 murder wouldnt be a thing then

    • @face_the_absurd
      @face_the_absurd 3 роки тому +2

      "Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal."
      - Albert Camus
      Albert Camus is the founder of the philosophy of Absurdism. He rejects claims of being an existentialist, though it seems to be an issue with semantics, because the word has more than one context. Absurdism is a philosophical response to ease one's >existential< crisis upon "facing the absurd." In that context, the philosophy could be called nihilistic/existential Absurdism.
      "Camus was a philosopher, author, and journalist. He won the Nobel Prize in Literature at the age of 44 in 1957, the second-youngest recipient in history.
      In philosophy, "the Absurd" refers to the conflict between the human tendency to seek inherent value and meaning in life, and the human inability to find any in a purposeless, meaningless or chaotic and irrational universe. The universe and the human mind do not each separately cause the Absurd, but rather, the Absurd arises by the contradictory nature of the two existing simultaneously.
      As a philosophy, absurdism furthermore explores the fundamental nature of the Absurd and how individuals, once becoming conscious of the Absurd, should respond to it. [Becoming conscious of the Absurd is synonymous with slipping into an existential crisis.] The absurdist philosopher Albert Camus stated that individuals should embrace the absurd condition of human existence. He then promotes life rich in willful experience. [Absurdism is an anti-suicide philosophy, unlike nihilism on its own.]
      Absurdism shares some concepts, and a common theoretical template, with existentialism and nihilism. It has its origins in the work of the 19th-century Danish philosopher Søren Kierkegaard, who chose to confront the crisis that humans face with the Absurd by developing his own existentialist philosophy. Absurdism as a belief system was born of the European existentialist movement that ensued, specifically when Camus rejected certain aspects of that philosophical line of thought." - Wikipedia

    • @face_the_absurd
      @face_the_absurd 3 роки тому +2

      "To be happy, we must not be too concerned with others."
      - Albert Camus
      We are eccentric because we are esoteric. Being seen as "cringey" by others is nothing more than an unfortunate byproduct of being esoteric.
      Don't let the opinions of others stop you from asserting yourself. You might find that a lot of stuff you say out loud, are things that others often think about but avoid talking about out of fear of being seen as eccentrics.
      "To know oneself, one should assert oneself."
      - Albert Camus

    • @agenrechannel3787
      @agenrechannel3787 3 роки тому

      Facts

  • @beatacerda8576
    @beatacerda8576 9 років тому +35

    I wish to talk on TED one day

  • @dianerose7631
    @dianerose7631 6 років тому +18

    Passion for freelance writing and art. But it doesnt pay the bills. Living in fear. Cant get paid for it

    • @DariaRock1
      @DariaRock1 3 роки тому +2

      I understand you a lot... I have a passion for music, art, poetry, philosophy... I think we people have to balance ourselves out, look at our diet, nutrients for the brain ! etc... I wish you only the best; you will surely find your way!!

  • @laraoneal7284
    @laraoneal7284 4 роки тому +12

    I’ve read over and over that childhood trauma causes these brain changes also.

  • @ghetto-chicladybaroness7764
    @ghetto-chicladybaroness7764 8 років тому +8

    I have been enjoying a Ted marathon night/morning and I am very sleepy, so please ignore my typo.
    Regards.

  • @Sunflower-vp8bc
    @Sunflower-vp8bc 3 роки тому

    Excellent!

  • @michelle_sea_view
    @michelle_sea_view Рік тому

    Thank you..

  • @ewawyhowska2097
    @ewawyhowska2097 7 років тому +1

    In case of Jonathan Nash his initial diagnosis of schisophrenia was at some point switched to bipolar. At the end of his life he himself questioned both of the diagnosis and ... I would follow his doubts.

  • @bubbyblossom7339
    @bubbyblossom7339 5 років тому +6

    This is great this makes me have hope for myself being schizoaffective I feel I’m a mad genius lol. One person even told me they thought I was a genius. I hope one day there can be a cure the thing is finding something to help paranoia and delusions without cutting out the creativeness that or genius from schizophrenia

    • @jimone732
      @jimone732 4 роки тому +1

      First thing I would suggest you to do is to refrain from drying or eating anything with cafe in from now on and to take 4 tablets of omega 3 oils ad 4 of flaxseed or primose oil per day..2 of each at breakfast an 2 of each with dinner...also refrain from smoking any mariguamna from now on

    • @jimone732
      @jimone732 4 роки тому +2

      Also stop taking the zombie pills the doctor prescribe to you..

  • @calebbean3658
    @calebbean3658 5 років тому +1

    The development of our pre-frontal cortex is usually increased on the negative side and decreased on the positive side if we are high-functioning. The total size in schizotypy is about the same, just disproportionate. This is due to increased threat detection in the parietal lobe and increased emotional sensitivity. The ventricle enlargement often comes from the effects of harder antipsychotic medications.
    Schizotypy is schizophrenia. Just like Asperger's is autism. Functioning labels are nothing but a way to throw the "hopeless" away.

  • @barbarabrennan1753
    @barbarabrennan1753 7 років тому +2

    I had a great book on each vitamin what food found in and how much to take.

  • @edwardchege2623
    @edwardchege2623 Рік тому

    The elusive genius by Elizabeth Gilbert Ted talk. She explains that it's the relationship with creativity that modern society that have simply in the old days they said you have a genius simply an entity came from outside but today we say people are a geniuses which is a too heavy burden to carry (Jordan Peterson- psychology of creativity he states artist or creatives live on the edge of chaos which is foolish and yet the very thing that rejuvenates the cities.

  • @new-knowledge8040
    @new-knowledge8040 6 років тому +9

    If a person was transported back in time, and then the person spoke of many things that are today said to be things that obviously exist, those in the past would most likely classify the person as being completely mad. Back in time, many of the things that we now know exist and take for granted, would be seen as completely impossible and thus belong in fiction books only. Thus much of the truth of our today, would be seen in the past as that which is only seen by a madman. Sadly, if today you can see new truths of distant tomorrows, your visions will still be said to be those of no one but a madman. Thus it is to be understood that the current definition of being "Mad", is flawed. The idea that being a very very sane person, and thus you are able to see truths better than do others, will have you be defined as being mad person, is damn scary. The more sane you are, the more you will be rejected.

    • @facioergosum2445
      @facioergosum2445 5 років тому +1

      This is a very interesting point! Are you familiar with Plato's allegory of the cave? 3 prisoners are trapped in a cave, unable to move. They are forced to stare at the wall in front of them whilst shadows of objects are cast onto the wall infront. One prisoner is unchained and dragged out of the cave (dragged is interesting terminology because it suggests that he was unwilling to leave his prison). When he exists the cave he sees the 'real' world. A world he has never seen before. The sun is blinding at first. His eyes adjust and He looks across the landscape realising that what he had experienced his entire life was not reality, it was an illusion. He is taken back down into the cave and chained back in his position. He tries to tell the other prisoners that this isn't reality. The truth is elsewhere. The prisoners threaten him with death if he ever speaks like that again. This is representative of the sane man attempting to convey truth to those who are ignornet (I.e. the majority). It's a really interesting story and can be applied to multiple different situations. I found it to be synonymous with your point.

  • @jimmyhuesandthehouserocker1069
    @jimmyhuesandthehouserocker1069 3 роки тому +1

    I'm supposed to be a genius and I've had serious problems with mental illness. I was diagnosed as a maniac depressive in 1999, but I don't have the classic symptoms. Seems like if I truly had the disorder, I'd have much more trouble and problems than what I do now

  • @richardakadickieofvauxhall8720
    @richardakadickieofvauxhall8720 2 роки тому +1

    To me, it's like a very thin line between being a Genius and being Mad. However, excellence comes from inside of an individual whilst madness is a judgement from outside imposed on an individual by the community they are living in, which has certain shared beliefs that are, in turn, culture and time bound - at times resulting in huge gaps between values declared/owned and how that given culture is actually experienced on a daily basis.
    Some say there is no such thing as a mental illness or psychiatric illness but dysharmony between the development of areas of people's intelligence that leads to a degree of uncertainty - particularly ever since Science/Culture/Arts , in the process of secularisation, failed to take over from Religion its role in looking after people's spiritual needs, including advising the crowds regarding how to approach the unknown/unfamiliar or deal with uncertainty. As the humans brains are developed in a way that heavily relies on prediction for risk management uncertainty inherently causes frustration. A label, a diagnosis, a stigma is a developmental stage that is there to release the excess energy of such frustration in a (seemingly) less agressive way. Though I wonder if such channelling by pathologising also played a significant part in spreading toxic negativism and covert malevolence which had been the real pandemic, as I see it, for over a decade. Perhaps it is time for humanity to make another step forward in their development instead of continue going around in circles by immersing themselves in toxic shaming executed by silencing, isolating and judgement as we, apart from the tech domain of intelligence, had been doing that for over 2000 years that actually disrespects the greatest invisible ( as in operating invisibly or in the dark) force of the Universe labelled as Time. Time, by its nature, flows in one direction and to date manages humanity (i.e. there is no such thing as "time management" as humans can not manage time yet). The expression "history repeats itself" is actually indicating we are going round in circles and did not take certain, necessary developmental steps in a timely fashion. Given that the Laws of Thermodynamics ( preservation of energy, balance out unevenness to achieve equilibrium) apply to our Universe as it is regarded to be a closed system there could be or must be a considerable energy-unevenness coming from, what I label to be, the "time debt" which is essentially an energy discrepancy (felt as frustration, for instance) that is the result of holding onto behaviours, beliefs and cultures that have already existed and past their time. Even if those beliefs/behaviours were helpful, healthy and fostered adaptation in the past the Time, hence the context, has changed so they cannot be applied the same way at present or in future without risking generating time debt. Over time such cumulative time debt leads to greater and greater risks to existence of humanity, such as global warming, mental ill-health being the number one cause for concern when it comes to humans' health.

  • @jspinks2388
    @jspinks2388 9 років тому +2

    They often do go hand in hand, as Subjective it can be/viewed you know.
    I do wonder/question what Madness even really entails, Excessive form's of instability/Personality wise/emotionally/Subjective/opinionated views of inappropriate behavior's/Act's? Yet I notice many of these things with even myself, and very much attempt to adjust. Simply a lot of it is extremely irrational/delusional/negative based thought's that will just run rampant through many individual's. It's just like a revolving/repeating process. Ask myself a lot, some moments yes I feel bit more on the intelligent/Genius level of mind...other times no...it's well into more like just being ill/weird/dull, or whatever you want to call it.

  • @sw123n7
    @sw123n7 Рік тому

    Wow I love the word he said that mental illness people is not dangerous but victim super agree

  • @vonnishee8787
    @vonnishee8787 7 років тому +4

    mental illness comes from dysfunctional abusive lives as well as and biological explanations, I tell people all the time be honest with your doctors about external causation (IE.childhood abuse/neglect ) so they can effectively treat any biological causes.
    don't think that treating my biological condition is all I need and that with make it possible that I don't have to face my childhood trauma. half-ass addressing causation means half-ass better.

  • @christinewilson4660
    @christinewilson4660 8 років тому +19

    He lost me when he said artist Vincent Van Gogh cut off his ear--he didn't. His ear was damaged during a fight he and artist Gaugin had where Gaugin pulled a knife; Van Gogh's ear was cut, but remained intact. And writer, Edgar Allen Poe did not commit suicide. His actual cause of death is unknown, but it is suspected he died from exposure after he passed out in the street due to drunkenness. He was found outside in the street, semi-conscious by a stranger. Poe died in a hospital a 4 days later. All medical records of him, including his death certificate (indicating cause of death) were lost, whereabouts unknown.

    • @hammerstrumm
      @hammerstrumm 8 років тому +4

      +Christine Wilson there is now also question wether van Gogh was perhaps accidentally killed by two village boys who came to him while he was painting in the fields.They got hold of the gun he used to scare away crows, in a playful way, and accidentally shot him in the stomach.VG stumbled to the village cafe and told nothing of the boys (so as not to get them in trouble,or perhaps felt humiliated) and said he did it himself.
      He must have known from war stories how painful a stomach shotwound is..not a good way to go
      i heard on the radio there was a new study about this, published some years ago.Havent read it.

    • @lissa4750
      @lissa4750 6 років тому +1

      source?

    • @MrGarysugarman
      @MrGarysugarman 6 років тому +1

      Watch "Loving Vincent". It goes as in-depth as possible into what looks like his murder by the two boys- actually one in particular who apparently did the shooting - who had been harassing him for a while leading up to that day. There is even the analysis of an early forensic gun expert in the village who analyzes the angle of the gunshot which he says is impossible to be self-inflicted. Its an excellent movie with incredible animation entirely hand-drawn by a team of about 100 artists who worked on it for about 10 years.

    • @lissa4750
      @lissa4750 6 років тому

      Loving Vincent sucks. Not a good source either but ok

  • @enth_1674
    @enth_1674 4 роки тому +13

    I always thought that mental illness was related to higher intelligence. (specifically OCD, Depression, and other anxiety disorders). I Have many disorders such as the ones I stated and even more than that. I was recently tested professionally and scored a 130-ish on the IQ test. This is in no way a boast, I would rather have less intelligence and be able to relate better to others/ not be expected to be "smart" and have "lots of potential" from my parents and teachers.
    Edit: This doesn't prove anything but someone should preform a large scale study of it.

    • @wadeguidry6675
      @wadeguidry6675 4 роки тому +2

      I have read somewhere that the most intelligent person on Earth was a bouncer in a bar and now lives on a farm. With an IQ of 200 he was smart enough to figure out that life is too short to bother with impressing anyone with his potential in fields that hold very little interest to himself such as physics or advanced science pursuits that could make him extremely rich. He simply and quite intelligently lives a life of contentment.

    • @DariaRock1
      @DariaRock1 3 роки тому

      @@wadeguidry6675 spiritually and morally very intelligent of him... I am at the same point in my life; scored high on tests, not as high as he... ... have Lyme (despite lyme I scored 120 -130)... artist, philosophy diploma, writing poetry.... and and and; I want to be happy in the first line now...

    • @krisrhood2127
      @krisrhood2127 3 роки тому

      I believe that when I was younger my school actually tried to hold me back

  • @joshuablack8221
    @joshuablack8221 6 років тому

    People need to pay better attention. When this man initially used the term, "NORMAL," he did so with quotation marks, meaning that he does not wish to stigmatize those suffering from mental illness nor suggest that those who do not suffer with mental illness are somehow better. He used the term to keep it simple so that those who don't possess much knowledge can comprehend the information, which is vital.

  • @UberOcelot
    @UberOcelot 5 років тому +1

    John Von Neumann founded game-theory, Nash revolutionized and gave it wide-spread utility. Thus revolutionizing economics. Just to clarify.

  • @C1schecter101
    @C1schecter101 2 роки тому

    So interesting

  • @ShunyamNiketana
    @ShunyamNiketana 6 років тому +1

    The brain information is excellent, but an oral essay like this needs to define key concepts such as genius and madness. Was Van Gogh a genius, for example, or just a unique and impassioned artist who, yes, succumbed to manic-depression? Or maybe that is genius. Or was he alienated, and eventually very depressed, because French society (and his difficult personality) prevented him from finding a niche with support, hence the 'madness' in response, though that madness may have fueled the art? It gets very circular, and the speaker here jumps from mainly artistic examples (Poe, Plath, Van Gogh) to an explanation of schizophrenia. Of the four mad geniuses briefly profiled, only John Nash was diagnosed schizophrenic.

  • @theexmormonatheist9677
    @theexmormonatheist9677 6 років тому

    For scizophrenia. But that does not mean that everything listed as pathological in the DSM is as valid a diagnosis as schizophenia.

  • @czr7j9
    @czr7j9 5 років тому +1

    this fella is good

  • @ShunyamNiketana
    @ShunyamNiketana 6 років тому

    As for the 46% comorbidity in twins, it tell us that from conception each twin experiences a different environment.

  • @laraoneal7284
    @laraoneal7284 4 роки тому +1

    I have some of these symptoms and I have ADHD. I’m wondering if adhd is in someway related to schizophrenia or schitzoid tendencies. My executive functioning is very low functioning.

  • @patrickpotter1620
    @patrickpotter1620 7 років тому +6

    he says women are more creative because their hemispheres work simultaneously. Most great artists have been men tho?

    • @Beautyizme
      @Beautyizme 7 років тому +22

      Women have largely been ignored in the art world for centuries.(not trying to be sexist, it's just how it's been)

  • @renehenriksen1735
    @renehenriksen1735 7 років тому +5

    Wish this can contribute to soften up people´s mad prejudices....

    • @sherlockholmeslives.1605
      @sherlockholmeslives.1605 7 років тому +1

      Well said, Rene!

    • @renehenriksen1735
      @renehenriksen1735 7 років тому +1

      Mike Fuller >>> I just felt like saying it, because people often chase brilliant people just for their being great allthough they don´t behave arrogant, rude or unpolite. It´s so unfair that when these people make slight mistakes they must hear more for it than the people who can´t accept what they call failure allthough it isn´t that bad. Then people come up with the argument that they must suffer endlessly when they as common people make small mistakes, and that it´s so unfair that these great people can make whatever mistake they want without ever being made responsible. I think that a lot of causing of these illnesses is caused by the suffering from hearing people´s many prejudices and wild opinions.

    • @sherlockholmeslives.1605
      @sherlockholmeslives.1605 7 років тому +1

      "The only people who cry for freedom from the press are those who wish to abuse it!"
      Johann Goethe ( 1749 - 1832 )
      German Poet and Polymath.

    • @renehenriksen1735
      @renehenriksen1735 7 років тому +1

      I´m not a Christian. I agree that the religion as it is today is nonsense. However I think Jesus himself if we can rely on very much of what we´ve heard about him, is OK. I wonder what he would say if he saw what his belief have become.

    • @renehenriksen1735
      @renehenriksen1735 7 років тому +1

      The press isn´t worth much if it serves the interests of villains.

  • @the_luminary
    @the_luminary 5 років тому

    Well i suppose this is one just narrative of mental disorders biologically. But I must absolutely recommend watching the crowdfunded documentary film CRAZYWISE film by Phil Borge and his team to get the Whole picture. Very thought provoking video. You're Welcome. 👌🏽🙏🏽

  • @theexmormonatheist9677
    @theexmormonatheist9677 6 років тому +1

    Neglected to mention that Van Gogh had epilepsy. Not an insignificant part of his story. John Nash didn't invent game theory, he created governing dynamics and was bisexual and schizophrenic and struggled with complications of these complications.

  • @DA-vp3rq
    @DA-vp3rq Рік тому

    Overburdened overworked overwhelmed; therapeutic intervention is rest

  • @agenrechannel3787
    @agenrechannel3787 3 роки тому +12

    The normals have always been jealous of us.

  • @anasiver976
    @anasiver976 4 роки тому +3

    I like teXtalk, i analyse and determine myself having hallucination + Mental illness..
    tbh someone has call me selfCenteredPeople, my opinion is none of expert physcatric/phycoligist can treat the mental illness..

  • @HAHAHAHAHA31323
    @HAHAHAHAHA31323 2 роки тому

    the hypofrontality seen in schizophrenia and also seen in adhd and sometimes bipolar is specifically due to a specific snp called rs4680 and its responsible for dopamine levels in prefrontal cortex. its also know as the val/val expression which is opposite of the met/met and no im no scientist im just a 22 year old dude who has studied genes psychology psychiatry pharmaceuticals bio and chem heavily since i was 13 lmao im a dweeb.

  • @mpcc2022
    @mpcc2022 9 років тому +21

    I'm simply mad not a genius.

  • @xzzlonezzwolfzzx
    @xzzlonezzwolfzzx Рік тому

    I like this, it has good info. It’s weird for a Ted talk though. Feels too informal almost? Kinda like a teacher with a curriculum slide show.

  • @hyronomusprice5439
    @hyronomusprice5439 4 роки тому

    Mental health is a choice. To follow the rules of a social group or to think outside of the world’s norms. This is a choice and has a binary input/output frequency. We choose a mirror of ideas to reflect the problems with us and figure out solutions to our problems.

  • @lordcarve
    @lordcarve 3 роки тому

    What measure determines if someone comes from a good home? Abuse slips through the cracks of the system all the time.

  • @davidpowell8055
    @davidpowell8055 6 років тому

    Humans, like every animal, will evolve differently in sub species like every other animal. Physically and now, mentally as well. The world, nature, is a colorful and ever-changing, messy place. No matter what we can't possibly, truly separate ourselves from it.

    • @davidpowell8055
      @davidpowell8055 6 років тому +1

      And not all mental illness indicates a broken brain. Sometimes it means their more evolved. Savants of human condition... If you will.

  • @TuriyAbsolute
    @TuriyAbsolute 7 років тому +1

    John von Neumann is the founder of Game Theory.

  • @SuperHanne84
    @SuperHanne84 9 років тому +6

    "I can barely chew gum and walk at the same time". HAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • @thisguy7840
      @thisguy7840 6 років тому

      Lol

    • @eugenemurray2940
      @eugenemurray2940 4 роки тому

      Sexist
      Multi tasking is a skill that can be learnt.
      E.g. ALL car driving is multi tasking.

  • @jayrich6532
    @jayrich6532 7 років тому +14

    bipolar & schizophrenia is when your bodys sensory organs are on overload, and when people question your sanity and challenge your morals, it makes you crazy. like a record player skipping the same 10 seconds of the song over and over. the key is to stop the skipping and letting the rest of the album play....and hopefully find yourself again.
    maybe the crazy people are really sane..and the so called sane people are crazy. you'll never know! lol

    • @ZDanimations
      @ZDanimations 6 років тому +1

      Jay Rich I would give anything to feel normal again. There is nothing sane about hearing voices telling you to get out of your body in the middle of a silent room, or work, or wherever.

  • @b.r.a.a.d6870
    @b.r.a.a.d6870 9 років тому +2

    BRAAD WAS HERE!!

  • @annalukomsky3508
    @annalukomsky3508 6 років тому +15

    It's very unfortunate that a researcher in the field is using such stigmatizing language saying words like "normal" and "schizophrenic" or "schizophrenic patient". People who have been diagnosed with schizophrenia are just people who happen to experience psychosis and in some cases negative symptoms as well. Referring to them as "schizophrenics" is dehumanizing, inferring that they are somehow barred from their humanity by their symptoms. Language like this contributes to the "otherness" that underlies stigma. Promoting an us "normal" people vs. them "schizophrenics". If we are to break the stigma, it is important to include people who experience psychosis in the spectrum of possible/normal human experience. This attitude breeds inclusion, understanding and compassion. Thanks.

    • @alyssagawronski5471
      @alyssagawronski5471 4 роки тому

      Anna Lukomsky well said! I came here to see if anyone would talk about how it’s dehumanizing to label someone as their diagnosis.

    • @MargaritaMagdalena
      @MargaritaMagdalena 2 роки тому

      No, it is us vs. them. Schizophrenics are abnormal and need to be kept away from normal people until they're better.

  • @qbeenzotherside
    @qbeenzotherside Рік тому

    I'm the world's genius of today I have a lot to do in very little time worked from 1997 till mid 2000 from age 7 till 10 1/2 I had childhood schizophrenia

    • @qbeenzotherside
      @qbeenzotherside Рік тому

      My work done as a kid will go from 97' to 2033 or 35

  • @unuminregnodei
    @unuminregnodei 6 років тому +3

    Im an artist and my form of art is chaos.

  • @taylorjohnson4943
    @taylorjohnson4943 3 роки тому +1

    I would argue that a vast majority of the human population would be considered insane just look at all the stuff that we do. Really be objective stand back and just look at it

  • @Hyvitetty
    @Hyvitetty 2 роки тому +1

    Why would you want to cure something that gives creativity? Also one thing is that if there's a child with this they need a lot of protection from exploiters and abusers.

  • @kungfustyle1
    @kungfustyle1 10 років тому +2

    Quality, that is science there. I liked that alot :-)

  • @dnsmithnc
    @dnsmithnc 9 років тому +2

    I did not know that Poe died of suicide. Of course you could say he slowly killed himself with drink and hard living but, many people do that and, it is not the technical definition of suicide.

  • @lapatronade4040
    @lapatronade4040 2 роки тому +3

    When your smart enough to realize you're going crazy right before you go crazy, now what

    • @akebax
      @akebax Рік тому

      It is what it is

  • @WorldPreSchool
    @WorldPreSchool 7 років тому

    Understand genius

  • @dustinclark3390
    @dustinclark3390 Рік тому

    There is a chance of metaphysical entanglement and when it happens it's depressing.

  • @uskstreet
    @uskstreet 6 років тому +2

    Churchill suffered from depresseion.

  • @benjaminnetanyahu8582
    @benjaminnetanyahu8582 Рік тому

    I suffers from social and generalized anxity disorder

  • @ann-og4uv
    @ann-og4uv 2 роки тому

    speaking facts tbh. I have bipolar and add that I can mask very easily but have struggled with the highs and lows while still functioning in society my whole life. I refuse to stay as a victim but when one asks me if I’m okay I say no.

  • @chriscyrelestil304
    @chriscyrelestil304 2 роки тому +1

    0:34 I thought it was Seneca

  • @dianerose7631
    @dianerose7631 7 років тому

    im borderline mentally ill. not sure. going to psychiatrist once again soon. been going since late teen. i am average to above average. been a rn nursing student. a 4 year degree with at times a very high gpa. written unpublishes novellas too. but i have serious social problems. never had a real boyfriend

  • @lilystarr226
    @lilystarr226 2 роки тому +1

    Poor parenting is one of leading causes mental illness.

  • @reshenewells6815
    @reshenewells6815 2 роки тому

    Do a video about connection between creativity and bipolar also autistic people show a amazing gift for attention to detail alot of people today who are famous celebrities have bipolar Maurice benard Britney spears Kurt Cobain. Linda Hamilton Carrie Fisher Marilyn Monroe and Robin Williams and Kanye west Mariah Carey are all bipolar

  • @Chief244
    @Chief244 5 років тому +1

    The whole body is the mind?

  • @dragonsigh2
    @dragonsigh2 9 років тому +1

    So there saying they know nothing and offer no fixes, what was the point of this video?

  • @renatajbrowne
    @renatajbrowne 8 років тому +12

    I appreciated much of your talk. I do take issue, however, with your use of the word "normal" to describe people without a mental illness. I know this is an innocent mistake, but language matters. Next time please consider saying "people without schizophrenia" or something along those lines, instead of "normal." Thanks

    • @Beautyizme
      @Beautyizme 7 років тому +1

      I like to use the term "Healthy" vs "Normal"
      What is "Normal" .... Anybody?☮

    • @smokinghorsey9
      @smokinghorsey9 7 років тому +6

      I do take issue with your taking issue with the use of the word "normal". Normal is used to refer to the standard functioning. For example, if someone has a broken leg, when their leg heals you may describe the leg as being "back to normal". It doesn't matter what their leg looks like. It could be the weirdest looking leg ever, but it would still be described as "normal" because it's no longer broken. When talking about a brain disorder, normal is a perfectly acceptable term to use to imply people who don't have the disorder.

    • @ewawyhowska2097
      @ewawyhowska2097 7 років тому

      R Browne ... or simply say "people with diagnosis of schizophrenia/bipolar" - some of the psychiatric are wrong in the first place (personally I believe each is wrong :-) )

  • @T3hN3wB
    @T3hN3wB 4 роки тому +1

    The correlation between marijuana users (begin using as teens) and people who later develop schizophrenia killed the entire talk for me. We have no way of determining if the root was per-exsisting. In other words, are people who are already predisposed more likely to try marijuana as a teen vs it being a cause. Giving it causation is short sighted and seems uninformed.

  • @barbarabrennan1753
    @barbarabrennan1753 7 років тому +5

    Not true, vIt b12 helps with schizophrenia. Sometimes there are nutritional deficiencies.

    • @enth_1674
      @enth_1674 4 роки тому

      doesn't b12 also act as a bootleg caffeine of sorts?

  • @kristystillings3497
    @kristystillings3497 7 років тому +7

    I've noticed this phenomenon. I have depression and an intelligence quota of 186. I am a genius.I didn't have a bad childhood. I have a nice family. I am a good person and I am not crazy either.My passion is in art and I am an artist.

  • @DA-vp3rq
    @DA-vp3rq Рік тому

    Abuse causes that too

  • @LeviOArts
    @LeviOArts 6 років тому +1

    It is impossible for a human to go throughout life without their brain being impacted in some way. There are over 700 mental conditions in the DSM--I would argue that having a mental illness is NORMAL. People need to change their language when talking about mental illness. It is not normal vs crazy. It is neurotypical vs neurodivergent. As someone so knowledgeable in such a field, you would think he would've used non-ableist language.

    • @ramanraghav1124
      @ramanraghav1124 2 роки тому

      Can you please elaborate more on "neurotypical vs neurodivergent"

  • @antonior4217
    @antonior4217 4 роки тому +1

    The insane person is sometimes a genuis in disguise, this disguise is called the perception of others;

  • @mustacheglasses5765
    @mustacheglasses5765 8 років тому +5

    I cannot listen to people who intermittently cluck their tongues. I'm sorry, I can't do it. It drives me nuts.

    • @ERiCDrAyViN
      @ERiCDrAyViN 8 років тому +1

      are you Autistic/Obsessive Compulsive?

    • @mustacheglasses5765
      @mustacheglasses5765 8 років тому +1

      Are you a moron?

    • @ERiCDrAyViN
      @ERiCDrAyViN 8 років тому +2

      My point was the information he is divulging is very educational and hugely more important than a little noise of a tongue. Try to see the bigger picture, but if you suffer from OCD or Autism I could understand how it might "drive (you) nuts"

    • @mustacheglasses5765
      @mustacheglasses5765 8 років тому +1

      I beg your pardon, I was a little brusque.
      However, I disagree that the information he's putting forward is anything more than interesting. I don't see it as hugely important, I can take or leave it.
      Also, for your edification; if you're altering a quote to make the meaning clear you don't use parenthesis, you employ brackets.
      Exempli gratia: "I could understand how it might "drive [you] nuts."

    • @ERiCDrAyViN
      @ERiCDrAyViN 8 років тому +1

      Mustache Glasses lol i'll try to remember that.

  • @ghetto-chicladybaroness7764
    @ghetto-chicladybaroness7764 8 років тому

    Quite interesting.
    However I do not care much for the term "normal" when describing the non schziophrenic brain, I suggest people read "They are Making US Mad", great book,I am not attempting to down grade anyones emtnal heallth issues, more so why can it not be okay for an indivual to be unable to ignore specific stimuli, the Docter does suggest this could lead to greater creativty but why not also the human concerned is pretty sane(what ever you call that) and just has a different way of thinking/processing.
    And lastly, it interests me that the label Genuis though with mental health issues is only applied to Europeans, where as everyone else is simply Mad.
    Hmm.

  • @sherlockholmeslives.1605
    @sherlockholmeslives.1605 7 років тому +3

    I have schizophrenia and I have an IQ of about 140!

    • @prashanthcm3333
      @prashanthcm3333 6 років тому

      My IQ is 150

    • @lsdfun
      @lsdfun 5 років тому +1

      I have manic depression and autism and my IQ is 140 but I never thought that meant anything special.

    • @qbeenzotherside
      @qbeenzotherside 5 років тому

      I have childhood schizophrenia and I was as smart as a person can get but it's a long story

    • @MargaritaMagdalena
      @MargaritaMagdalena 2 роки тому

      My IQ is 400 😎

  • @krisrhood2127
    @krisrhood2127 3 роки тому

    Roki Kyte to me: You're not as smart as other people. You're smarter

  • @deanpharis6162
    @deanpharis6162 9 років тому

    I don't know if I'm common sense stupid and intelligent at the same time on useless things that make me feel like I'm so advanced in some areas that other people act as I'm just obsesse about things,I taught myself to draw maps of the world & can name EVERY nation point out 100's of cities,I'm obsessed with history I'm a conspiracy theorist and I get irritated w people that disagree I have been artistic since I was a toddler,I was sent to a school of gifted artisr when I was 6,But I have these tic's that I have to do like licking my fingers before touching paper,I count my steps when walking,I am NOT mathematical but I like odd numbers & I use to turn lights on & off or touching things many times,it mentally exhausted me,I'm not a genius my IQ is 140 but sometimes I lose ppl in conversations cause I have a very complexed God belief that I also obsess over many religions,I had lost my dad nephew my older brother &sister I have had crippling panic attacks only benzodiazapams help me,,I was diagnosed with bipolar that I don't believe anti depressants work,They make me insanely anxious,I self medicated for over 10 yrs with benzo's & opiates but the opiates I used was morphine & heroin,I've been on 7.5 norcos over a year & I don't have withdraws but when the bevzos leave my system I have gloomy thoughts of death & our consciousness living on,I've been taught the eternal fire & brimstone for 90% of us Which I DO NOT BELIEVE cuse other countries where Christianity is Prohibited,That would mean Muslims,Hindu's Buddhist ect:are dammed & with so many loss of family most of us had hard financially poor & with tragedy,I am very likable everyone knows me as the big mean looking guy that use to fight,But do not anymore, I have very pleasant moods but also have no tollerance for people that have authority over me,I feel in some areas I'm more qualified than some D.R's when they know there is a fine line between drugs that help your serotonin production or distribution and it creating suicidal thoughts,Because your in a zombie state & life is too real & overwhelming with the feelings of wanting to take a sedative to releave yourself rfom it,D.R's need to study eastern medicine and listen to patients,Because I have panic & anxiety I know my body my beain and know antidepressant's aren't the cure all

  • @MixmasterBrar
    @MixmasterBrar 8 років тому

    My brother smoked cannabis for a couple of years and he carries Schizo genes as our father is Schizophrenic for the past 30 years

    • @Bekka_boo13
      @Bekka_boo13 8 років тому

      +Jaiveer Brar cannabis can't not cause mental health...its been proven it can't cause it!

    • @BlahBlahUsername1
      @BlahBlahUsername1 8 років тому

      +booboobrinn That would depend on the individual.

    • @phertility9720
      @phertility9720 8 років тому +1

      and then what? your brother is fine? please update us.

    • @phertility9720
      @phertility9720 8 років тому

      I'm interested is trying cannabis therapy on my adult aspie, but because she is genetically predisposed to schizophrenia I've been hesitant, that's why I ask.

  • @toddboothbee1361
    @toddboothbee1361 6 років тому +1

    Being more often the victim of violence than perpetrators doesn't make the mentally ill less violent than average. Stats show otherwise. Poor handling of maths here.

  • @dottedrhino
    @dottedrhino 7 років тому +1

    "Everything in between"... Hmmm.

  • @BlahBlahUsername1
    @BlahBlahUsername1 6 років тому

    Why do so many people not pronounce an Goghs name correctly? Its pronounced VAN-HOCKH.

  • @laraoneal7284
    @laraoneal7284 4 роки тому

    I never used cannibas EVER.

  • @OK-otic
    @OK-otic 6 років тому

    very handsome man