I havent been able to find any Hololive member's play of the True Lab being translated if you could do that it'd be very much appreciated especially since your work is high quality !!
Watame is not innocent. She is boundlessly kind. She also, as proven here, has a strong sense of justice. She showed mercy to everyone she's met so far because she saw something good in them. In Flowey, she saw only evil and danger. She made the choices she believed in.
But he also felt satysfied in his weird twisted way, and theres also something tragic about killing flowey, since we know who he truly is, and that this unfortunate version of him is not chossing to not treat others with love, he simply is incapable of feeling love. Of course we would not know that at this point of the game, but it still a tragic tale of a kind being, forced to live in a shell, incapable of feeling compassion
@@braincellgenocide9553 I have to say, I never considered that Flowey's story ending this way is quite characteristic of a tragedy. Flowey, admittedly, was the hero of the underground during one of his saves.
@@CougheePls More literally, Flowey said that they had exhausted every possible dialogue option and determinant choice available to them before the player showed up. I'm inferring from that he must have committed some heroic actions, even if they were incidental to his 'completionist' attitude
One of the things I found funny about the girls playthroughs was this, one of the Kindest girls didn't spare while the war criminal who has no problems committing MC war crimes did.
I mean....it’s just the kinda twist you would expect. But personally, I feel that just because you spare someone, doesn’t mean you have to forgive them
To be fair, getting rid of flowey at this point in time is genuinely the right thing to do with the informations you have. It's easy to just spare everyone but when you spare because you are genuinely considering the consequences of your actions then knowing when not to do it is important too. Of course with more information you realize that even flowey is redeemable, but he could have not been. He could have been a genuine threat with no functional way to handle other than killing him. That's basically a version of the paradox of tolerance. Expanding your tolerance to people who suppress or harm others is creating more harm than good, and infinite unconditional tolerance is just a naive position. And that's one of the last messages of the game too. Like, the game teaches you to consider the weight of your action but at the end asriel still tells you something along the lines of "there are a lot of floweys out there and not all of them can be reasoned with". From what I've seen, people who spare flowey at this point in time, either are those who killed someone by mistake along their journey and are trying extra hard to redeem themselves, people who just don't care, or people who want to spare everyone because it's a game and obviously the game wants you to spare everyone. All those are good reasons but none of them comes from a place of genuinely considering the effect of your choices and trying to improve that world. I guess a fourth option is the "I'll beat you I can do it again" which is what I'll call the batman syndrome xD despite innocent people getting harmed everytime batman is going to spare the joker because of his morale code, he'll also stop the joker everytime but innocent are still getting hurt because of his choices. But here it's a debate about deontological or consequentialist ethics and that comment is already long enough =p
Wow. Of all the Hololive members who played the game, Watame was the one who did not forgive Flowey. She understood the gravity of her decision, and stood by it. Goes to show how dedicated to love and hope she is, to decide that Flowey was a threat to the world that needed to be stopped, despite not wanting to hurt anyone else.
TL;DR: she immersed herself in the story so much and made choices completely by emotions, without any knowledge about the game and gaming in general. It means she was really really into the story, a normal youtuber will just be like: "ah this flower did a very bad thing. Anyways, I can't get the good ending if I don't spare him right? Well, we will spare him to get the good ending I guess?". But Watame, she was invested into the story very much, she genuiely see every character in the game as a real friends/families, she laughed with them, cried with them so when they got killed, she couldn't do anything but being angry and let her emotions do the choice... ... but even then, in the end, she hesitated, she was really want to kill flowey but... she still keeps a certain tenderness in her heart. Still, like you said, she was aware of the weight, the importance of her choice, the world's future is in her hands, and in the last moment, she ulitmately made the choice (which was proved to be wrong) Man, I never seen someone playing a game with this much emotions, she never gained LOVE, but she gained love, didn't she?
Flowey deals increasingly less damage the lower your health is. Your hp bar will deplete in only a few hits but then will hang on for double that amount on the last sliver.
16:00 She just looks so unamused and annoyed while Floweys just pulling a troll face. I love it, exactly how I’d probably react in a situation like that.
I was a huge Undertale Fan which had a bad rep from weird fans, seeing Watame's playthrough reminds me of why I loved the game so much, thanks for the translation hoping to see more
The fandom got weird and obsessive sometimes, but at the end of the day it was a quality and touching game that earned such a huge obsessive fandom for a reason. I think a big part of it is that a surprising chunk of the fandom when it first came out was late elementary/early Middle School age even though the game's were made by someone who grew up on SNES era stuff.
I like that Watame killed Flowey. It recontextualizes every time she spared a monster. She didn't do mostly a Pacifist route for the sake of it, rather she never wanted to kill. Flowey was too far gone though, and she wouldn't forgive him. If anything, this choice is a more powerful ending.
Can we take a moment to thank the translator? He could have easily just put text at the bottom of the screen, but he bothers to get the English translation of Undertale and paste it on the screen. Thanks for doing us kaigainikis a solid!
Thank you for Translating this. I'd love to see more of Watames True Pacifist Playthrough if possible, especially the Lab, I love how she always gets so emotional about the Characters
There’s a lot of Undertale let’s plays on UA-cam, but Watame’s might be the best. This sheep is so compassionate and cares so much about the game it’s impossible not to love her.
18:24 And in this moment, Watame got mad at the game itself. She knew what the game was asking her to do, and that first 'UWAAAH!' was the only way she could articulate 'Are you being serious right now?' Given the feelings she was going through, it can't be helped if her answer ultimately ended up being "You're the one person I can't forgive."
Let's face it we all wanted to kill flowey after going through that boss fight. Not because it's the right thing to do but the frustration of that fight is enough to make you choose that option.
I spared him, but for a more morbid reason. Why bother finishing him off? He was practically bleeding out. I'm not going to grant him a swift death. Killing him would end the pain. No, I will make his demise slow, painful, and agonizing. All because he offed Asgore.
Tbf to her, the N route really screwed her over contextually. Watame knew enough of Undertale to know there are consequences to her choices and that a non violent solution was a thing, she just believed that was the case from the get go, which N route ultimately takes away from you. By having the game do this, it's meant to prove Flowey right about several things, which, in Watame's case was both in terms of content and context was a middle finger to her. She's not a doormat despite her vibe, the Pacifist run she practically did twice took effort, effort she felt was a bit robbed of her at this first ending. To this end, Toby got the reaction he wanted, she killed Flowey out of distain despite all her hard work, meaning he designed his villain perfectly.
@@darkdwarf007 pulse she did spend a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time thinking it over. If i hadn’t known about the true pacifist run and played the game blind, I would have had a hard time sparing flowey too.
i actually loved that she didnt spare him. She spent a long time deliberating over whether or not to do it, putting genuine feeling behind the choice. Seeing everyone else spare him because thats just "what youre supposed to do" doesnt have the same impact of watching her make a tough decision that she felt like she needed to make.
the only reason I did not kill Flowey there, I knew it would make him happy, at grinding teeth I spared him, and did say on each choice, ah please dont tempt me, its far too easy
I'd say it was a bad idea to have Flowey taunt you with his dying breath (if you choose to kill him outside of the Genocide Route); yeah, he was probably trying to get you to play again so he could spend time with "Chara" (actually Frisk), but...I dunno, it just seems like the better option would be for him to somberly say something like, "Y'know...this isn't the first time this happened. I doubt it'll be the last."
It's all about the core narrative Toby aligned the game with. Flowey is cluing you in that even if, after all the atrocities he's committed, his death is a just one, which could make the underground safer from then onward... even then, if you choose to attack, he's won. Because you killed. In the game's mind, you stoop to his level in that moment, no more free from his twisted ideology than he is. In that moment you have no hope, and because of that, the best ending cannot be attained. If you can't at least Hope, you will never attain the Dream.
@@PlanetmanKevin Killing Flowey or not doesn't lock you out of the path... It does lock you out of hints to it, though. Flowey will give you tips on what you need to do to get there when spared, and on repeated neutral runs as well.
@@YourCrazyDolphin I was referring to what she actually said. I don't speak Japanese (much), but she audibly says Flowey several times while reading the dialog.
In the end, Watame chose... Poorly. Flowey may have been a threat, but in the end, she let her anger get the better of her. She proved Flowey right. That choice has a much deeper philosophic implication than just eliminating a threat or being boundlessly merciful. It's about proving a point. Is Flowey right? Do people have to die? In the end, is it truly kill or be killed? By killing Flowey, Watame agreed with him in the end. Some people have to die. It's... Not an enviable choice to have to make. After all, by sparing him, even if you're standing by your point, you're letting an unspeakable evil just... Walk free. To continue to commit evil. I still believe that sparing Flowey is the better choice, no one is beyond help, beyond saving, beyond kindness. But it's hard to disagree with one deciding to be the executioner. I'm not upset. Just disappointed.
Yeah you are right, BUT letting your emotions lead to that choice was her decision. And I understand her by not wanting to mercy flowey since she really liked Asgore. Its definitely not the best decision but in the end you can you can't argue what flowey did is unforgivable. She decided to avenge Asgore. At the end of the day everyone has a different experience of playing the game.
/late, but I hate that this comment sounds like "ugh strimmer didn't play the game the way I played it." There was no right choice here. It doesn't even lock you out continuing the Pacifist route if you were already doing it, you'd just miss some tips on how to do so but you can still attain Pacifist. If you know the context of what Watame experienced throughout the playthrough, you begin to realize the person behind the avatar is a human who's invested herself in the world and story. To expect Watame to choose whether to spare or kill Flowey in the end is very "holier than thou" and unrealistic. To say that Watame chose poorly sounds very arrogant. Humans are fallible we can't be expected to make perfect decisions nor know if we did make any perfectly good decisions in context. Hence killing Flowey here, has no effect. You can still do the Pacifist route.
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Let me know if there's anything you want translated. I'll see what I can do.
I havent been able to find any Hololive member's play of the True Lab being translated if you could do that it'd be very much appreciated especially since your work is high quality !!
Hololive jevil fights
There is the true route of Watame in Undertale, can you Translate it?
Thank you for translating her undertale playthrough!
I wanna see their reaction to undyne's neutral death
Watame is not innocent. She is boundlessly kind. She also, as proven here, has a strong sense of justice. She showed mercy to everyone she's met so far because she saw something good in them. In Flowey, she saw only evil and danger. She made the choices she believed in.
Flowey mistook kindness for weakness. That was his last mistake.
But he also felt satysfied in his weird twisted way, and theres also something tragic about killing flowey, since we know who he truly is, and that this unfortunate version of him is not chossing to not treat others with love, he simply is incapable of feeling love. Of course we would not know that at this point of the game, but it still a tragic tale of a kind being, forced to live in a shell, incapable of feeling compassion
@@braincellgenocide9553 I have to say, I never considered that Flowey's story ending this way is quite characteristic of a tragedy. Flowey, admittedly, was the hero of the underground during one of his saves.
@@jeanicehoffing8935 wait did flowey say that
@@CougheePls More literally, Flowey said that they had exhausted every possible dialogue option and determinant choice available to them before the player showed up. I'm inferring from that he must have committed some heroic actions, even if they were incidental to his 'completionist' attitude
the fact that she almost cry out loud when Sans tell her to be happy wherever she is hit really hard...
Made me tear up
She's such a sweetheart!
And it hits extra hards knowing what she had been through... I hope she's legitimately happy now
One of the things I found funny about the girls playthroughs was this, one of the Kindest girls didn't spare while the war criminal who has no problems committing MC war crimes did.
Lol
I mean....it’s just the kinda twist you would expect. But personally, I feel that just because you spare someone, doesn’t mean you have to forgive them
She liked Asgore too much and desperately tried to save him, so what Flowey did was just unforgivable I guess.
The purest soul, with such a great sense of justice, cannot easily abide wickedness. It takes far greater strength to forgive.
To be fair, getting rid of flowey at this point in time is genuinely the right thing to do with the informations you have. It's easy to just spare everyone but when you spare because you are genuinely considering the consequences of your actions then knowing when not to do it is important too.
Of course with more information you realize that even flowey is redeemable, but he could have not been. He could have been a genuine threat with no functional way to handle other than killing him.
That's basically a version of the paradox of tolerance. Expanding your tolerance to people who suppress or harm others is creating more harm than good, and infinite unconditional tolerance is just a naive position. And that's one of the last messages of the game too. Like, the game teaches you to consider the weight of your action but at the end asriel still tells you something along the lines of "there are a lot of floweys out there and not all of them can be reasoned with".
From what I've seen, people who spare flowey at this point in time, either are those who killed someone by mistake along their journey and are trying extra hard to redeem themselves, people who just don't care, or people who want to spare everyone because it's a game and obviously the game wants you to spare everyone. All those are good reasons but none of them comes from a place of genuinely considering the effect of your choices and trying to improve that world.
I guess a fourth option is the "I'll beat you I can do it again" which is what I'll call the batman syndrome xD despite innocent people getting harmed everytime batman is going to spare the joker because of his morale code, he'll also stop the joker everytime but innocent are still getting hurt because of his choices. But here it's a debate about deontological or consequentialist ethics and that comment is already long enough =p
Wow. Of all the Hololive members who played the game, Watame was the one who did not forgive Flowey.
She understood the gravity of her decision, and stood by it. Goes to show how dedicated to love and hope she is, to decide that Flowey was a threat to the world that needed to be stopped, despite not wanting to hurt anyone else.
TL;DR: she immersed herself in the story so much and made choices completely by emotions, without any knowledge about the game and gaming in general.
It means she was really really into the story, a normal youtuber will just be like: "ah this flower did a very bad thing. Anyways, I can't get the good ending if I don't spare him right? Well, we will spare him to get the good ending I guess?". But Watame, she was invested into the story very much, she genuiely see every character in the game as a real friends/families, she laughed with them, cried with them so when they got killed, she couldn't do anything but being angry and let her emotions do the choice...
... but even then, in the end, she hesitated, she was really want to kill flowey but... she still keeps a certain tenderness in her heart. Still, like you said, she was aware of the weight, the importance of her choice, the world's future is in her hands, and in the last moment, she ulitmately made the choice (which was proved to be wrong)
Man, I never seen someone playing a game with this much emotions, she never gained LOVE, but she gained love, didn't she?
@@Meow-eh8qs Didn't do G route too
when the Cleric turns out to be a Paladin.
@@crimsoncrusader4829Lawful Good doesn’t mean Lawful Nice
Really impressive how she managed to go through half of the boss without dying
She was surviving off of pure anger.
Do I tell you guys...?
~RIGHTEOUS FURY~
The Boss fight is quite merciful in dmg compared to the others
Flowey deals increasingly less damage the lower your health is. Your hp bar will deplete in only a few hits but then will hang on for double that amount on the last sliver.
16:00 She just looks so unamused and annoyed while Floweys just pulling a troll face. I love it, exactly how I’d probably react in a situation like that.
16:00 I love how supremely pissed she looks at this development. It perfectly represents how I felt when it happened to me.
She was like "I grazed your bullets. It's now time for me to graze on your corpse."
I was a huge Undertale Fan which had a bad rep from weird fans, seeing Watame's playthrough reminds me of why I loved the game so much, thanks for the translation hoping to see more
The fandom got weird and obsessive sometimes, but at the end of the day it was a quality and touching game that earned such a huge obsessive fandom for a reason. I think a big part of it is that a surprising chunk of the fandom when it first came out was late elementary/early Middle School age even though the game's were made by someone who grew up on SNES era stuff.
Same as well but I became disgusted when those fandom weirdoes post wierd/cringe shit
As a KH fan i know how you feel
yep, I feel ya' my love for this game stood strong and still, even when a whole lot of crap happened around it
The game is good the fandom is garbage
I like that Watame killed Flowey. It recontextualizes every time she spared a monster. She didn't do mostly a Pacifist route for the sake of it, rather she never wanted to kill. Flowey was too far gone though, and she wouldn't forgive him. If anything, this choice is a more powerful ending.
Its telling that Flowey is the single monster you can kill in the entire game, and still allow you to get the Pacifist ending.
Watame 's sprite just looks sad the entire time, no matter what.
Hehe true, which makes it 10 times more emotional
tbf she did have it set to sad for most of this
This game is ten times more emotional with watame narrating it
You know it's bad when even the emotional and forgiving one can't spare the flowey
But apparently Pekora spared him, which if you follow the whole war criminal thing…yeah…
She can forgive him because she can forgive herself. @@ps4pro668
Watame's Undertale playthrough was so good. I loved every second. Pushed me to join the membersheep.
If I understood Japanese I would join the membersheep in a heartbeat
I’d love to see her reaction to the true lab.
15:57 the look of disappointment after flowey healed
It honestly killed me
What Flowey didn't count with is that it was fighting a sheep with respawn immortality and horn drills.
Technically it was flowey who kept bringing you back because he wanted to see you die over and over again.
@@BiIafyIt also happens that part of Watame's lore is that she has a natural respawn rate of like 20 seconds.
@@jamesproctor4568 oh awesome
They legitimately felt guilty for leaving the monsters behind w/o achieving their hopes T-T
10:03 Love her mocking, "fed up with your shit"-style HAHAHAHA. Fantastic.
16:01 her reaction is too cute
I remember that at the Neutral end I was like "Yo' royal papyrus pog", but with Watame sobbing it hits way too diferent.
Can we take a moment to thank the translator?
He could have easily just put text at the bottom of the screen, but he bothers to get the English translation of Undertale and paste it on the screen.
Thanks for doing us kaigainikis a solid!
Tbh, I think I have the whole game memorized
Thank you for Translating this.
I'd love to see more of Watames True Pacifist Playthrough if possible, especially the Lab, I love how she always gets so emotional about the Characters
Omg thank you for this translation. Just finished your video of the Asgore fight and was hoping this would come out soon (:
Thanks for watching, hopefully I meet any expectations!
Bro same
Holomems: "Time to play a fun little game that came out a few years ago!"
Holomems after: "...I need a hard drink..."
There’s a lot of Undertale let’s plays on UA-cam, but Watame’s might be the best. This sheep is so compassionate and cares so much about the game it’s impossible not to love her.
5:08
Spoken like a true anime protagonist
18:24 And in this moment, Watame got mad at the game itself.
She knew what the game was asking her to do, and that first 'UWAAAH!' was the only way she could articulate 'Are you being serious right now?'
Given the feelings she was going through, it can't be helped if her answer ultimately ended up being "You're the one person I can't forgive."
25:40 OMG the way her voice cracks! I wanna hug her so baaaaaaad!
25:40 Awwwwww... Sweetheart! Watame is such a good person!
This reminds me of why Undertale is such a beloved game. I miss experiencing this game for the first time.
3:41 you can see hate in her eyes
if i ever get rich, imma make an animated watame undertale adventure series
watame might not be the most entertaining streamer there but she definitely is the most kind fluffy hearted sheep.
she is such a kind soul
wrong about the first part
Korone would freak out if she fought him.
She would constantly die because she would want to touch all the yubi attacks
The game gives you way more health than you expect- I think you probably could tank it every time Flowey does that and still win.
11:41 "You truly are, Slothful
*ANNNATAAAA...TAIDA DESU NEEE*
(Insert joke about time travel and death here)
Let's face it we all wanted to kill flowey after going through that boss fight.
Not because it's the right thing to do but the frustration of that fight is enough to make you choose that option.
Is it really though? It's a very forgiving fight.
@@alzhanvoid nah just because he is annoying
I spared him, but for a more morbid reason. Why bother finishing him off? He was practically bleeding out. I'm not going to grant him a swift death. Killing him would end the pain. No, I will make his demise slow, painful, and agonizing.
All because he offed Asgore.
A lovely translation !!! Perhaps you could translate Watame and her date with alphys? Ooo or maybe the true lab experience!
Just came from the ASGORE video, keep up the awesome editing and translations! :)
Huh, I just had finished the ASGORE video. Your editing is so good!!
She cried at the funny skeletons :(
I.... COMPLETELY forgot what a chaotic fight Omega Flowey is......
1:00 that "eh?" Was so precious
I'm disappointed that Watame didn't even try to spare Flowey. Then again, it's understandable
Tbf to her, the N route really screwed her over contextually. Watame knew enough of Undertale to know there are consequences to her choices and that a non violent solution was a thing, she just believed that was the case from the get go, which N route ultimately takes away from you. By having the game do this, it's meant to prove Flowey right about several things, which, in Watame's case was both in terms of content and context was a middle finger to her. She's not a doormat despite her vibe, the Pacifist run she practically did twice took effort, effort she felt was a bit robbed of her at this first ending. To this end, Toby got the reaction he wanted, she killed Flowey out of distain despite all her hard work, meaning he designed his villain perfectly.
@@SteadFast411 I agree with you. It's just my pet peeve, that's all
@@darkdwarf007 pulse she did spend a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time thinking it over. If i hadn’t known about the true pacifist run and played the game blind, I would have had a hard time sparing flowey too.
i actually loved that she didnt spare him. She spent a long time deliberating over whether or not to do it, putting genuine feeling behind the choice. Seeing everyone else spare him because thats just "what youre supposed to do" doesnt have the same impact of watching her make a tough decision that she felt like she needed to make.
@@TheDustyMuffinsss this guy gets it
I love that HA↗️HA↘️HA↗️HA↘️HA↗️HA↘️HA↗️HA↘️HA↗️HA↘️HA↗️HA↘️HA↗️HA↘️HA↗️
16:04 la cara de Watame fue la de todos en ese momento
the only reason I did not kill Flowey there, I knew it would make him happy, at grinding teeth I spared him, and did say on each choice, ah please dont tempt me, its far too easy
the editing in these undertale vids is brilliant. thank you sm!!!
Damn, Watame was really hurt she could not soak the pain... I feel sad...
Hearing her cry and her voice cracking is making me cry. TTATT
Angry watame
Crying watame
and everyone else too
Indeed.
We Need to protect her at all cost, she's such a kind and pure soul
Dont mind me just here to leave a comment to make this spread through the algorithm
would love to see them doing these kind of breaking the 4th wall game in the future
16:04 angry sheep
"I did it with my own hands."
You can tell there was some regret in there. Especially since Flowey called her out as his final words.
1:49 “仕様?”, wtm is asking if this is a glitch or by design.
Flowey: returns to flower
Watame: *Uwahs angrily*
Thanks for the translation bro
watame is so precious,
fuwafuwa sweetheart sheep lol
watame has such a beautiful heart
good shit on the videos man, Watame is a treasure
Angery sheep
Thanks for translating the perfect sheep
im subscribing for watame translations
keep em coming ;)
Hey fantastic work
Thanks for the effort in your videos bro 😊 new subscriber here, you'll be big one day just continue doing your passion 😉
Thank you for the translation!
watame saying asgore is the cutest thing i've ever seen
Why did i read the title as "oatmeal flowey"
Maybe you're hungry?
1, 2, oatmeal
Flowey is a yellow guy~
you know you fucked up, when even watame cannot forgive you.
6:13 for the reveal if you are looking
STOP SMACKING ME WITH RICE GRAINS HAHAHAHAHA
Flowey is gonna use all of the 7 humans souls to kill all anime girls
Hot Sheep!
Yay I’m so glad to see this
I'd say it was a bad idea to have Flowey taunt you with his dying breath (if you choose to kill him outside of the Genocide Route); yeah, he was probably trying to get you to play again so he could spend time with "Chara" (actually Frisk), but...I dunno, it just seems like the better option would be for him to somberly say something like, "Y'know...this isn't the first time this happened. I doubt it'll be the last."
It's all about the core narrative Toby aligned the game with. Flowey is cluing you in that even if, after all the atrocities he's committed, his death is a just one, which could make the underground safer from then onward... even then, if you choose to attack, he's won. Because you killed. In the game's mind, you stoop to his level in that moment, no more free from his twisted ideology than he is. In that moment you have no hope, and because of that, the best ending cannot be attained. If you can't at least Hope, you will never attain the Dream.
10:03
Its kill or be killed.
755:52 how did she manage a time like that!
Bruh this video and the fight against Asgore makes me want to subscribe to her
A list of all vtubers who played undertale
"How do i complete P route" - Just the same thing all over again :P
If you already were doing pacifist on the first neutral tun you are just brought to slightly before asgore and get the true lab immediately
@@gemstonegynoid7475 or Alphys date
She was on the right path... up until she killed Flowey.
@@hiddenflare6169 right right
@@PlanetmanKevin Killing Flowey or not doesn't lock you out of the path... It does lock you out of hints to it, though. Flowey will give you tips on what you need to do to get there when spared, and on repeated neutral runs as well.
15:57 trolled.
Huh. The fact that apparently they didn't translate Flowey into a Japanese equivalent is interesting.
The poster pasted the original english text dialogue onto the NPC's dialogue.
@@YourCrazyDolphin I was referring to what she actually said. I don't speak Japanese (much), but she audibly says Flowey several times while reading the dialog.
So she didn't fight super edgelord asriel?
She did but there are already some good translations for Watame's fight with Asriel if you're looking for them!
'Super Edgelord' 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pay for my coffee! 🤣
16:01 Mad shep
tears
11:41
She screwed it up in the end rip
Angry sheep.
21:23 Eren?
Do the Japanese not do fried eggs on a pan? Cuz' I see she and Pekero guessing the eggs are cookies or something else.
i first thought they were donuts lol
My honest reaction:
10:00
Watame did nothing wrong
Can you be the first person to translate someone's entire play through? Well maybe not entirely but like shorten it in parts from start to finish.
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So wait... did she not fight Asriel???
Nvm literally just saw a video of that.
lol gamer girl cry
In the end, Watame chose... Poorly. Flowey may have been a threat, but in the end, she let her anger get the better of her. She proved Flowey right. That choice has a much deeper philosophic implication than just eliminating a threat or being boundlessly merciful. It's about proving a point. Is Flowey right? Do people have to die? In the end, is it truly kill or be killed? By killing Flowey, Watame agreed with him in the end. Some people have to die. It's... Not an enviable choice to have to make. After all, by sparing him, even if you're standing by your point, you're letting an unspeakable evil just... Walk free. To continue to commit evil. I still believe that sparing Flowey is the better choice, no one is beyond help, beyond saving, beyond kindness. But it's hard to disagree with one deciding to be the executioner. I'm not upset. Just disappointed.
Yeah you are right, BUT letting your emotions lead to that choice was her decision. And I understand her by not wanting to mercy flowey since she really liked Asgore. Its definitely not the best decision but in the end you can you can't argue what flowey did is unforgivable. She decided to avenge Asgore.
At the end of the day everyone has a different experience of playing the game.
/late, but
I hate that this comment sounds like "ugh strimmer didn't play the game the way I played it."
There was no right choice here.
It doesn't even lock you out continuing the Pacifist route if you were already doing it, you'd just miss some tips on how to do so but you can still attain Pacifist.
If you know the context of what Watame experienced throughout the playthrough, you begin to realize the person behind the avatar is a human who's invested herself in the world and story.
To expect Watame to choose whether to spare or kill Flowey in the end is very "holier than thou" and unrealistic.
To say that Watame chose poorly sounds very arrogant. Humans are fallible we can't be expected to make perfect decisions nor know if we did make any perfectly good decisions in context.
Hence killing Flowey here, has no effect. You can still do the Pacifist route.