Chemex VS French Press - NOT SURPRISED | Java Royale

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  • Опубліковано 19 вер 2019
  • Cup Cup Hooray! We're back with another episode of Java Royale.
    This time, we're pitching the Chemex against the French Press.
    Which brewing method is your favorite? What would you like to see in Java Royale next?
    Let us know in the comments below! ⬇️

КОМЕНТАРІ • 120

  • @burtwonderstone5315
    @burtwonderstone5315 3 роки тому +79

    Full immersion vs. pour over - sounds like 2 of the common forms of Christian baptism.

  • @chrisjames7489
    @chrisjames7489 3 роки тому +41

    The fact that multiple people said a full immersion method was a week tells me that this was more a poor technique preference

    • @ellielopez1615
      @ellielopez1615 2 роки тому +3

      I agree, should’ve been stronger or more bitter.

    • @cv600rr
      @cv600rr 2 роки тому +4

      Yes! There are so many variables with both methods. This is less a comparison of methods and more a comparison of two different cups of coffee.

    • @homeyv
      @homeyv Рік тому +1

      this tells me french press is way less work

    • @Ayaforshort
      @Ayaforshort Рік тому +1

      Seriously, I don't think they brewed long enough. I used medium roast coffee, and it is way darker.

  • @paige5665
    @paige5665 2 роки тому +15

    as soon as i saw the hue of the french press brew i knew it wasn’t brewed properly. that was almost lighter than tea 😂

  • @DeanTheDevil
    @DeanTheDevil 3 роки тому +11

    I love the texture of the french pressed coffee out of all the brewing techniques

  • @MackerelCat
    @MackerelCat 4 роки тому +34

    You can see when they press the french press that they didnt brew it properly. The grounds should have sunk to the bottom on their own and pressing should be easy. That's how you know your french press is ready.

    • @shumzz7626
      @shumzz7626 4 роки тому

      What is the brew time for a French press. This always confuses me..

    • @008faebe9
      @008faebe9 4 роки тому +1

      @@shumzz7626 the video of james hoffmann is really great, it explains a lot

    • @MackerelCat
      @MackerelCat 4 роки тому +1

      Shhumiis it usually takes about four minutes

    • @KhromTX
      @KhromTX 3 роки тому +1

      Could you expand on the "grounds should have sunk to the bottom on their own" bit? I use a french press and I steep for about 3-4 minutes and my grounds don't sink, I use mainly medium grind though. Does it depend on the grind?

    • @kaijorias8070
      @kaijorias8070 3 роки тому

      khrom check this out, a much better approach to using a French press with really good results. ua-cam.com/video/st571DYYTR8/v-deo.html

  • @layzy24
    @layzy24 4 роки тому +43

    They didn't even make the French press as well as it could be.

    • @stuntmonkey00
      @stuntmonkey00 3 роки тому +5

      2:05 You can tell by the colour it's under extracted. The watery/sour notes fit that. If this were me, I would say the fringe is a bit too coarse. I can live with sediment.

  • @NomadeDigital
    @NomadeDigital 4 роки тому +18

    "We let them taste both, but half of them drank cold coffee"... ok great.

    • @cupcupapp5289
      @cupcupapp5289  4 роки тому +6

      Yeaaahhhh... We're working on that. We're going to be better at controlling variables in future videos.

    • @KillerofGods
      @KillerofGods 3 роки тому

      @@cupcupapp5289 Fair enough

  • @Adam-zs1ld
    @Adam-zs1ld 4 роки тому +36

    They messed up the French press

    • @joyfullittlethings9448
      @joyfullittlethings9448 3 роки тому +1

      Lol the result is not that accurate I guess

    • @albertdidde4395
      @albertdidde4395 3 роки тому +2

      I had a feeling they did. They taste notes people gave was weird. No one mentioned the oilier profile of French press.

  • @kcgunesq
    @kcgunesq 3 роки тому +16

    7 to 5 is not resounding. It isn't even necessarily significant.

  • @manuelpenaruiz3694
    @manuelpenaruiz3694 2 роки тому +8

    For flavor, chemex can't touch a properly brewed FP. Immersion brewing is superior when done right, which is obviously not the case in this test
    I've used many methods and aside of the syphon, Hario switch produces the richer and tastier coffee. Chemex does good if you prefer a very mild and super clean cup but in terms of flavor, not even close to FP

  • @Matpermad
    @Matpermad 2 роки тому +6

    I would be really curious to see the change if you use the james hoffmann mehod. It really brings out the best in the french press

  • @gusroden5242
    @gusroden5242 4 роки тому +6

    Why did you do one long pour? Try to do your bloom and then 2-3 different pours, that will help with the flavor on a chemex

  • @cw2544
    @cw2544 Рік тому +2

    It appears as though they began pressing the french press as soon as the water was added. What about stirring in a little water, allowing a bloom, adding the rest and not pressing until after 4 mins (ready to drink?)
    This wasn't really a test of one coffee making style vs another. It was a test of weak flavoured coffee vs strong coffee. No surprise strong coffee won.

  • @Shalloworldmx
    @Shalloworldmx 4 роки тому +13

    You work on a software dev company... perfect place to find people who drink coffee :)
    Also, I agree, coffee taste on pour overs change a lot as it cools down, in my case, I use a V60 and at first coffee tastes very strong, somewhat bitter, but as it cools down, the bitterness is gone and a lot of fruity and interesting flavours start to appear. While french press coffee stays pretty much the same (although I think the texture gets nasty as it cools down close to room temp)

    • @mariai9549
      @mariai9549 4 роки тому +1

      I like the "chewiness" of a cafetiere. I've had some Chemex brews turn to lemon juice when cool.
      How fine do you grind for V60? I used to use a finer grind to get the brew time up as some brews were only 1:30 min. I use a coarser grind now and get less bittereness when hot.

  • @dianasthings729
    @dianasthings729 Рік тому +2

    French press is more environmentally friendly. No paper filters. I love the french press and I like the nutty flavor. I think you'd get a more intense flavor from a french press.

  • @Niagaramac
    @Niagaramac 3 роки тому +1

    Did they have the mugs mixed up? At 2:13 they place the mugs in front of the makers (Script/Chemex and red logo/FP) and then when they start tasting they are the other way around?

  • @Papslocke
    @Papslocke 2 роки тому +3

    my only issue here is that you seem to have used one cup for everyone. I just feel that it doesnt provide a great sample of data since then everyone is effectively tasting a different cup of coffee as the coffee cools.

  • @94e88
    @94e88 3 роки тому +3

    The french press is way under extracted, it's supposed to be like darker cola rather than sand infused water in color. Either too coarse ground coffee or inadequate brew time.

  • @MorrisDugan
    @MorrisDugan 2 місяці тому

    My favorite might be immersion with better filtering, which I suppose is kind of a hybrid. I've used the Chemex flask to immerse the ground coffee, and then filter it into a jar with a coffee sock.

  • @samuils
    @samuils 2 роки тому +2

    I might be off here but, you need to adjust with the brews, if your brew comes out too watery is it not under extracted? This would mean that you need to reduce the grind size to get the fuller body, adjust to the proper body fulness and then do the test. Otherwise let me brake the beans in a half, place them in Chemex and brew with it, well then all of a sudden Chemex will be terribly watery. See what I mean?

  • @Jason_from_cal
    @Jason_from_cal 4 роки тому +3

    Did you guys make new coffee for the taste test or keep those ones hot? Because the French press will keep getting worse if you reheat or keep it hot vs. a pour over

    • @cupcupapp5289
      @cupcupapp5289  4 роки тому +1

      Hey, Jason. Yes, this is a issue we're working on figuring out. We're going to invest in ways to keep the coffee hot here soon!

    • @Jason_from_cal
      @Jason_from_cal 4 роки тому

      @@cupcupapp5289 when Ember mug gets their shit together they may be a good choice. We have had a few and returned various times for various issues. When they do work, they are amazing though

  • @ahmetbakibasci8070
    @ahmetbakibasci8070 Рік тому

    Comeback of the ages by the chemex. Love to see it

  • @chefarj
    @chefarj 4 роки тому +1

    Can you please tell us on how did you prepare the french press? Thanks.

    • @cupcupapp5289
      @cupcupapp5289  4 роки тому +1

      Here's a video on how we brew the French Press! ua-cam.com/video/c3iGEYD8zuY/v-deo.html

  • @homeyv
    @homeyv Рік тому +1

    Did they all drink from the same 2 cups of coffee?

  • @jamesb.ofdesertdistrict567
    @jamesb.ofdesertdistrict567 4 роки тому +1

    “Everybody loves a comeback.”

  • @maxsantayana6966
    @maxsantayana6966 3 роки тому +1

    This video helped me pick the French press, I drink it black and I don’t need the bitter chemex taste

  • @scttymn
    @scttymn 4 роки тому +4

    The artist formerly known as Scotty.

  • @ellielopez1615
    @ellielopez1615 2 роки тому +3

    Yesssss. It makes a huge difference. I get acid reflux with French press coffee. I don’t have a Chemex but I have a look alike. I’ve owned a chemex before so it doesn’t make a difference but pour over & Moka pot are 👍👍

    • @liquidblueyes
      @liquidblueyes 2 роки тому

      I also have acid reflux and I’m a coffee lover. I’m looking into replace my drip maker. Has the chemex helped to alleviate your symptoms?

    • @james23640
      @james23640 Рік тому

      maybe a Clever or an aeropress would be a way of getting a full-immersion brew without the acid reflux?

  • @georgewashington3012
    @georgewashington3012 7 днів тому

    Nice. Channels need more blind taste tests to eliminate bias.

  • @robertfelker2275
    @robertfelker2275 3 роки тому +3

    When you know nothing but want to sell

    • @cupcupapp5289
      @cupcupapp5289  3 роки тому

      We're always open to advice if you'd like to share!

  • @Vivalinaaa
    @Vivalinaaa 4 роки тому +13

    Are they drinking from the same cup?

  • @nothere6991
    @nothere6991 4 роки тому

    Tell me if im wrong but isnt the idea of a kerug is a mechanical version of a chemex.

  • @jeffdrew625
    @jeffdrew625 4 роки тому +1

    Chemex pour minus paper filter > use a gold fine mesh! Trap the fines vs the press, but more flavor!

  • @jaqian
    @jaqian 5 місяців тому

    French Press tastes better than filter. Also if you don't pour out all the coffee from tbe FP, almost all the sediment stays in the FP giving a clean tasting cup of joe.

  • @MissJuliSmae
    @MissJuliSmae 4 роки тому +9

    Team French Press. If you're doing pourover, I think paper filters are not ideal. Any metal mesh?

    • @gusroden5242
      @gusroden5242 4 роки тому +2

      the paper filter takes away the oils which takes away the bitterness

  • @dikydiky7252
    @dikydiky7252 4 роки тому

    French press vs Moka Pot 😂 😂

  • @racerdude7149
    @racerdude7149 5 місяців тому

    The French press looks light. Steep time was probably too short

  • @luifranco1457
    @luifranco1457 4 роки тому

    Definitely not surprised people thought the French Press tasted bad after a few minutes (the sediments being in the coffee is what gives it a unique flavor over other brewing methods). I don’t have a preference, I like both.

  • @scottkenyon3194
    @scottkenyon3194 3 роки тому +7

    4 mins in a French press seems way too short a time. 10 would make a robust cup of coffee which seems like the point for a French press.

    • @martyhopkirk6826
      @martyhopkirk6826 3 роки тому

      Indeed. See James Hoffmann’s French Press guide. Makes an excellent coffee!

    • @ericv3975
      @ericv3975 2 роки тому

      So you drink it cold? Lol 😅

  • @brandonmellis
    @brandonmellis 3 роки тому

    Are you guys in Georgia? I recognize one of the programmers!

  • @RobThompson605
    @RobThompson605 3 роки тому +2

    I've used both for years. I prefer Chemex over a French press any day. A good pour-over brings out more of the coffee flavors I enjoy in a good cup of coffee. And before the critics chime in that I'm doing it wrong, I've experimented with various roasts, bean varieties, grind coarseness, steep times, ratios, etc. Different strokes for different folks. That's why the market is saturated with so many methods to prepare coffee.

  • @joenoah9906
    @joenoah9906 4 роки тому +3

    She likes the french press better because it has "less of the coffee taste"....hahah....3:15

  • @skykitchen867
    @skykitchen867 24 дні тому

    I bought a Cosori pour over, and enjoy pour over coffee method better, it has a more robust flavor and tastes stronger (to me).

  • @akshaynigam9729
    @akshaynigam9729 3 роки тому +1

    Very leading way to ask the blind tasters. It was very clear they wanted the Chemex to taste better - don't get me wrong, there is no way it wouldn't buuut let's play the game fairly. Anyway nice taste test - would love to see more head to heads between types of coffees. The more complex the flavour pour over / chemex would win is my opinion - low acidity and darkre roasts the French press might come out trumps. Have you done any more of these?

  • @aneonstar
    @aneonstar 3 роки тому +3

    They dont know how to use french press. I feel bad for it. 🙃

  • @benbauer7866
    @benbauer7866 3 роки тому

    If this was chronological, not that shocking that the French Press would degrade over time as you get to the muddier bottom.

  • @sebafigueroa_shabad_yoga
    @sebafigueroa_shabad_yoga Рік тому

    temperature is the key...

  • @anonymous_a
    @anonymous_a 4 роки тому

    French press if you don't want the acidic taste of the paper filter.

  • @GreenishlyGreen
    @GreenishlyGreen 4 роки тому

    Shout out to onyx coffee cup

  • @Mo3Tah2009
    @Mo3Tah2009 4 роки тому +1

    Do V60 Vs.CHEMEX

    • @cupcupapp5289
      @cupcupapp5289  4 роки тому

      We'll add that to the upcoming videos! Thanks for the suggestion, Muath!

  • @dictionplacement5467
    @dictionplacement5467 3 роки тому

    I started to get worried thinking people rather have some watery ass coffee like people choosing budlight over some well brewed flavorful shit

  • @kcisthe1st
    @kcisthe1st 2 роки тому

    a light/watery french press coffee is terrible it should be silkier and have more body but I haven't used a chemex yet so I will compare myself

  • @FortheLuIz
    @FortheLuIz 3 роки тому

    Scotty doesn’t know. Just ask Cassidy MacKenzie.

  • @wisdomandloveforall
    @wisdomandloveforall 3 роки тому

    Homeboy on the left is on dem kook vibes

  • @graphene1487
    @graphene1487 4 роки тому

    Would love to know more about the people who voted:
    What job do they have?
    What astrological sign?
    Foods they like?
    Do they like cats?

  • @jwglista
    @jwglista 5 місяців тому

    If it tasted sour it could have just been under extracted and maybe not a fair assessment.

  • @q.1690
    @q.1690 4 роки тому

    Aeropress vs V 60

  • @km6206
    @km6206 3 роки тому

    'resounding' win? It's basically 50/50....

  • @stuartcarr8857
    @stuartcarr8857 3 роки тому

    You have incorrectly used the Chemex filter!

  • @johnsilvestry4001
    @johnsilvestry4001 4 роки тому +3

    Chemex strips too much of the delicious oils! V60 at least!

    • @mariai9549
      @mariai9549 4 роки тому

      I've always found the Chemex more dependent on the specific coffee used. Very finicky. French press is much more forgiving.

  • @Halcyonedgar1
    @Halcyonedgar1 3 роки тому

    I watch a lot of British TV shows and one thing irritates me. The producers invariably show a French Press for almost all scenes involving coffee of dining. French Press is okay, if you're going to empty the pot shortly after brewing, but c'mon, there are other ways to make coffee.

  • @whewdoggie1
    @whewdoggie1 4 роки тому +1

    Were people stating the French press was watery in comparison? That's absurd and you certainly made it incorrect. I love coffee many ways and have been roasting and grinding beans long before is was fashionable. Both give you a lot of control though I will never get to the snob level of weighing coffee and water. Either way I use more grounds than many but French press will always come out fuller and stronger with the same amount of grounds. I still prefer French press and to be honest a high quality drip machine can come pretty close to the pour over without the hassle.

    • @Robinzorz
      @Robinzorz 4 роки тому +1

      You are correct, French Press method should obviously be a less watery coffee than the Chemex, as the Chemex gives super clean cup because of the strong filter whereas the French Press gives a strong and full bodied coffee because of the full immersion. For sure they did not do it right.
      Also I don't see how weighing the coffee and water is snobbery. People are not considered snobby weighing their ingredients while making a cake, why would it be snobby for making coffee? To me, it gives a better tasting cup that I enjoy.

  • @chefarj
    @chefarj 4 роки тому +1

    Chemex? Seriously?

  • @cv600rr
    @cv600rr 2 роки тому

    This isn't really a good comparison of these to methods. There are so many variables affecting these two cups of coffee. This is more of a comparison of two cups of coffee.

  • @EsusGali
    @EsusGali 2 роки тому

    Just saw the tittle.... no need to see the video to know is sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. lets compare a cow and a goat and lets see who barks better? WTF.

  • @WakandaBabe
    @WakandaBabe 3 роки тому

    How can you compare the two? Like apples and oranges. Two guys fronting about their pseudo coffee knowledge.

  • @Kasher18
    @Kasher18 Рік тому

    😂😂😂😂😂😂
    This might be my most favorite UA-cam comment ever 👏🏻

  • @Albertojedi
    @Albertojedi 2 роки тому

    None of them are as good as a Moka Pot.

  • @sebastiancepeda8527
    @sebastiancepeda8527 3 роки тому

    This was done wrong

  • @R6VIIshooter
    @R6VIIshooter 4 роки тому

    Had to turn this shit off after 2 minutes, here take a dislike. You can't compare 2 methods of brewing coffee if you have a different recipe and blend to being with. Scientific method dictates that you can only change one variable at a time in order to accurately measure its effect. You're comparing a 1:14 ratio in the chemex to a 1:16 ratio in the french press, and that's not taking into account how the grind effects the flavour and the extraction.

    • @cupcupapp5289
      @cupcupapp5289  4 роки тому

      Hey there!
      You're right, it is difficult to compare two very different brewing methods. We enjoy making these types of videos to show just how different everyone's coffee preferences are!
      Thanks for joining in on the conversation.

  • @racerdude7149
    @racerdude7149 5 місяців тому

    Horrible comparison

  • @StormFalcon61
    @StormFalcon61 11 місяців тому

    WELL FİRST TRY TO LEARN HOW TO USE FRENCH PRESS DEAR FRİENDS THEN YOU CAN JUDGE İT