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  • If you would like to get this trowel for yourself once I've worn it in (that's right, I'll do all the hard work for you) then you can get your name on the list here...
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    if your not sure what this is about the please watch this quick video to see how I'm trying to help you.
    • DO YOU WANT MY TROWEL
    This video will show you how to use a brand new marshalltown stainless steel trowel straight out of the box
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  • @hankchinaski4075
    @hankchinaski4075 5 місяців тому +5

    I just thought I was a terrible plasterer now I know it was just the new trowel hehe. Great vid thanks mate.

  • @TheCod3r
    @TheCod3r 9 місяців тому +5

    It seems you have a great bond with your daughter(s) Kirk. It's nice to see a dad who actually acts like a dad. Keep it up buddy

  • @martypick5176
    @martypick5176 Рік тому +10

    Mate, I can not lie. I was hoping you would have a total nightmare lol as I know how hard it is, but you made it look too easy. This just shows how good you actually are, and your experience showed big time fantastic job

  • @brickbybric
    @brickbybric Рік тому +42

    Most of the plasterers in Ireland use them on sand and cement for a period of time before they skim with them

    • @glenwarren4351
      @glenwarren4351 Рік тому +1

      Same in the us

    • @jimmybaldwin737
      @jimmybaldwin737 8 місяців тому +1

      Same in England aswell. I did a lot of damp proofing over the years. So used sand and cement day in and day out. I don’t know why people don’t use sand cement. I would prefer to use that

    • @plipertyplap4899
      @plipertyplap4899 7 місяців тому

      ​@@jimmybaldwin737it's nice to skim onto

    • @Chelskie-darts
      @Chelskie-darts 5 місяців тому

      I was told to give your trowel to a bricklayer for a period of time before I started using it for plastering , having 3 trowels in pipeline at all times (your main trowel , your back up and then your spare)

    • @user-yt9fx8si2p
      @user-yt9fx8si2p 5 місяців тому

      Yr rightThe best way to brake a trowel in is on the rendering sand and cement

  • @user-pw6gm1tu6q
    @user-pw6gm1tu6q 6 місяців тому

    watched loads of plasterers channels yours is by far the best and most relatable,feels like im watching myself as every movement u do is so familiar from how u coat outside to skimming i do exact the same movements pressure and speed,ive always said we will never be millionares cos nobody wants to watch us work but the way u explain things that some folk think are boring i still find it intersting even though i know it all and do it every day,your enthusiasm makes me want to go to work lol

  • @jivsy81
    @jivsy81 8 місяців тому +6

    Doing a great job kirk, the videos you're putting up helping people are ace. We'll in mate.

  • @waynenixon729
    @waynenixon729 Рік тому +1

    Wow, your work area is lovely and clean. Such a neat job... Lines / edges are great!

  • @bromkin
    @bromkin Рік тому +3

    Perfect demonstration of a new trowel and the problems it can cause, especially pulling out the plaster

  • @jimmybaldwin737
    @jimmybaldwin737 8 місяців тому

    Nice to see you using board finish. That’s all I use. I love it

  • @1982deaks
    @1982deaks Рік тому +2

    Great video, good for beginners to show that they aren’t necessarily doing it wrong it could be due just to using new tools and to persevere

  • @billkingham8943
    @billkingham8943 5 місяців тому +1

    Hi Kirk. I’m pretty new to your channel I only subscribed about 1 month ago. I can see your an old tradesman and not one of the new tradesmen just out of college. You explain things very well and I’m sure lots of people will learn very much from watching you. I am a building inspector for my local authority and I see many trades works and yours is up there with the best I see. Keep up the good work and training the newbies the proper way to do a job. 👍👍✊✊😎

  • @sg5224
    @sg5224 5 місяців тому

    Go Masie - good energy. Great to see. Seems a great girl. Proud dad.

  • @lmilne4859
    @lmilne4859 Рік тому +1

    Lovely work. Kirk great demo.

  • @imaginitivity7853
    @imaginitivity7853 Місяць тому

    The problem any DIYer has is not realising that as well as a lack of skill, they can run into problems caused by the equipment, but not recognise it as such. Your videos help so much in avoiding that. It's hard enough to get the mud on the wall and develop a smoothing technique, but if you don't realise your trowel is causing you problems you'd think you just couldn't plaster

  • @mrpete1972
    @mrpete1972 Рік тому +2

    You make it look so easy, I've had a go when I had a plasterer at my house, I couldn't even get it off the mortar board without it being on the floor 😂 I'm sending this video to my plasterer as the clean up and no plaster in the back of the sockets really add to the finished job. Just hope I don't offend him 😂😂😂

  • @djhago3123
    @djhago3123 Рік тому +4

    I generally use it on sand and cement to wear it in.. sometimes I give it a rub of a sharpening stone to wear it in especially a stainless steel one

  • @lewigas290
    @lewigas290 Рік тому

    Thoroughly enjoyed that! Great vid and very well explained. Thanks for posting 👍

  • @durexjim
    @durexjim Рік тому

    very brave using new trowel straight out the box .Job well done thx for sharing

  • @Ian-ub4cn
    @Ian-ub4cn 5 місяців тому

    Well done Masie, hope you got paid! I tried for years to get my son and daughters to come on board but they wouldn't entertain it! thanks for a great channel.

  • @chillax141
    @chillax141 6 місяців тому

    Amazingly helpful video, much appreciated.

  • @barrybigdog3406
    @barrybigdog3406 4 місяці тому

    Ive been off the tools for about 3 years now, but your videos really make me miss the trowel 😂

  • @frankieball3794
    @frankieball3794 Рік тому +4

    Great job mate. Love marshalltown trowels, but also have a big soft spot for the tyzack trowels. My finishing trowel is marshalltown 👌

  • @neilphelps8618
    @neilphelps8618 Рік тому +1

    Another great video and professional job, thank you. Just hope I got the lucky ticket 🤞🏼

  • @paulbarton9222
    @paulbarton9222 Рік тому +2

    I was given a Marshall Town Gold from a shop that was closing down it takes some breaking in especially when I don’t plaster every day 👍thank you

  • @eddies2675
    @eddies2675 Рік тому +2

    Looking forward to watching this you’ve made some great videos I’ve watched nearly all of them 😂 keep up the good work mate! 👍

    • @Onthetrowel
      @Onthetrowel  Рік тому +2

      Awesome, thank you! cheers Eddie

  • @joejoey316
    @joejoey316 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant stuff kirk!!

  • @kevgreathead1886
    @kevgreathead1886 Рік тому +3

    Got one myself & I love it.
    Where's our Keiran at like?
    Also good yer kids helping out, loving the chanel Kirk, top job 👍🏻

  • @showmeez
    @showmeez Рік тому +6

    I'm learning and improving as I go, been using that trowel for a while now (diyer, occasional jobs like a room here or a wall there but about to do a whole house we're renovating) and have to say I'm very attached to that bit of kit for throwing on. Tempted to try a speedskim for flattening though. Just wanted to say thanks for the content, picked up a few tips from you. Helpful stuff.

    • @bee8583
      @bee8583 5 місяців тому

      I’m still new in the trade myself, and still learning, though I can plaster (the skimming side of it) from start to finish confidently, I was advised by an experienced spread to stay away form the speedskim and master the trowel first. As flattening inbetween coats with the trowel is a very important aspect of training yourself to keep the angle of the trowel consistent. If you start using the speed skim instead it will take you soo much longer to master the trowel if that makes sense. It also helps with conditioning your muscles.

  • @markmcgrath4853
    @markmcgrath4853 Рік тому +1

    good work again KIRK !

  • @neilross9867
    @neilross9867 5 місяців тому

    Here's a nice little comedy moment for everyone reading the comments.
    I've just watched this entire video and had the intention of putting in to try and win this trowel. The chances are slim but as good odds as anyone else right? A couple of minutes from the end he says it'll be available to bid on in March 2023 😅😅. Typical me, always late to the party 🤣🤣.
    As always though Kirk, great video mate. Always informative, always patient, always you. Any apprentice lucky enough to get on with you would turn out an absolute master craftsman I'm sure.

  • @MePowlo
    @MePowlo 4 місяці тому

    Appreciate the expert guidance - thanks man :)

  • @rich8037
    @rich8037 5 місяців тому

    Two minutes into the job and the top three foot of that wall already looks pretty much good enough to sign off. I've got some practising to do! (DIY plasterer here, really only doing it because on principle I reckon I ought to at least have a go at anything legal in my home.)

  • @johnpalmer2703
    @johnpalmer2703 Рік тому +2

    Another great video mate, love watching your content 👏🏻 did you use stop beads on the angles?

  • @V4victory2025
    @V4victory2025 5 місяців тому

    I always used a sharpening stone on new trowels but rounded the toes off slightly and use the heel for square corners. To make live sockets safe I just covered them with small freezer bags or the like, only takes seconds to cover sockets with the bag keeps it safe and clean.

  • @mikedevlin5888
    @mikedevlin5888 10 місяців тому

    What a beautiful relationship.

  • @deanstones6773
    @deanstones6773 7 місяців тому

    Looks amazing mate

  • @damstv8717
    @damstv8717 11 місяців тому +1

    great trowels marshalltown i allways buy the pre worn in trowels

  • @unclebuckgb
    @unclebuckgb Рік тому +1

    Inspiring to watch cheers

  • @stuartwood776
    @stuartwood776 Рік тому +1

    Iv started using carbon as stainless is very hard and will take ages to wear in better off with a permashape gold . Carbon has bit more flex than stainless took a month my carbon to be good enough for skim but love it now . Keep up the good work

  • @kevinhancock4064
    @kevinhancock4064 Рік тому

    Thanks 4 the link ....BTW yes I own a tyzak it was on offer and I don't use them much . But the other issue I get is getting things flat I get good smoothness now but fiatjess needs work lol

  • @andrewmcintosh5914
    @andrewmcintosh5914 Рік тому +1

    Wooden handles on both MT and Tyzak are my preference as well as they are slightly thicker

  • @nwg8847
    @nwg8847 Рік тому +3

    when i was first starting out by labouring the old boy who taught me said to buy my no1 and use it for render and screeding for as long as i can to get the edge perfect i just use different grit of wet and dry now on a sheet of ply hasn't let me down 👍🏼

  • @bloggs692413
    @bloggs692413 Рік тому +1

    nice job spread

  • @mejustanormalguy4742
    @mejustanormalguy4742 Рік тому

    Braver man than me .I only bought a new trowel when I knew I had a few weeks of float and set or a screeding job.😂😂

  • @andrewmcintosh5914
    @andrewmcintosh5914 Рік тому +1

    I have a 14" Marshalltown carbon cement trowel that I used to use as a "skimmer", as it's as straight as a die. I generally use an MT permashape now but breaking in another MT carbon finishing trowel. I always run over the edges of a new trowel with my carborundum stone. I love using my 18" MT carbon but it's always an issue for my elbow now 😢

  • @Michael-nv5rp
    @Michael-nv5rp Рік тому +1

    love watching plasterers work,i would let the first coat pick up more ,your a good spread mate.

  • @philshortland6135
    @philshortland6135 Рік тому +1

    Top job 👌🏻

  • @alanc9832
    @alanc9832 6 місяців тому

    Love the channel kirk, from Ireland keep it up mate,, proper plasterer

  • @northernpatriotmanchester675
    @northernpatriotmanchester675 10 днів тому

    we used to tap the handle stem with a lat hammer made the corners bend up slightly

  • @gedlaw109
    @gedlaw109 Місяць тому

    I got a Marshall town gold brilliant worked well from the box

  • @whostolethejam
    @whostolethejam Рік тому +2

    I have that trowel, it has worn in lovely had it for 10 years

  • @paulbarton9222
    @paulbarton9222 Рік тому +3

    Also what a great girl you’ve got there good steady camera work 10/10 🎉

  • @MikeHuntz810
    @MikeHuntz810 Рік тому

    Another great video

  • @RichardDowd
    @RichardDowd 9 місяців тому

    Brilliand video Kirk - you can never hgave too much knowledge!
    Wondering, can you take down the blade edge with a whetstone?

  • @ThePattypizzle
    @ThePattypizzle 2 місяці тому

    Whenever I get a new trowel I just hook that little triangle sanding piece to my oscillating multitool with some 120 grit sandpaper and sand the corners and edges and surface. In a matter of seconds the corners arent pointy and sharp, theyre more round and safe to the touch. Dont know about everybody but it works for me when I dont have time to break the trowel in.

  • @ronniebarker79
    @ronniebarker79 Рік тому +1

    Crackin content captin

  • @anthonystevenson9007
    @anthonystevenson9007 2 місяці тому

    Best trowel there is out there

  • @IainHC1
    @IainHC1 Рік тому +8

    Although you took the hard edges off the trowel by rubbing them away on a kerb on the road.... You wore the edges in the wrong direction... You rubbed very fine grooves in to your trowel edge at 90 degrees to how you would apply your plaster.... This is why your trowel dragged your plaster. You should have rubbed the trowel edges along the kerb in the same direction as you would to apply plaster..... By doing this... The fine grooves in your trowel will be in the same direction as your trowel stroke, reducing that drag and speeding up the trowel's wearing in time. Always move in the same direction as you apply plaster.

    • @Onthetrowel
      @Onthetrowel  Рік тому +9

      Your spot on mate thank you

    • @IainHC1
      @IainHC1 Рік тому +3

      @@Onthetrowel Only too glad to help 🙂 Keep up the cracking work m8 🙂

    • @jimh4072
      @jimh4072 Рік тому +1

      I never knew that would make a difference, thanks. 👍

  • @user-gh2rk4st4o
    @user-gh2rk4st4o 7 місяців тому

    Love watching yo plaster kirk your an artist

  • @MarcusT86
    @MarcusT86 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely AMAZING video again Kirk!
    And what’s more, is this a new camera? It was like I was stood in the room watching, it was that clear!
    Some of those close-ups were so unbelievably helpful!! Top praise to Maisie the camera girl for her amazing work there!
    God, if you could do a full length tutorial again in future with this camera and these close ups, touch tests, I believe I could finally plaster my house myself 🤣

  • @patrickwatters7555
    @patrickwatters7555 2 місяці тому

    In the good old days we used two trowels one broken in for finishing. One breaking in on render, sand and cement.

  • @robemmans7985
    @robemmans7985 10 місяців тому

    Loving your work mate
    I noticed you used hook on beads. When they first came out I thought they were the mutts nuts. Saves stapling or sticking with adhesive ,messing around in general. However I've since decided that the extra gear I have to lay on around beads means it's 6mm thick . This is fine on corners as its easy enough to feather, but on window reveals with only 150 mm to play with if you feather it in it shows, meaning it's gotta be 6 mm up to frame side. Making it tricky to keep straight. I resorted to a reveal tool to get them spot on. A real shame that they can't produce a 3mm version .
    Any thoughts.?

  • @archiethere85
    @archiethere85 5 місяців тому

    What size is this trowel? Thanks for the videos mate love watching them. Hope you had a great Christmas

  • @kevinlawes591
    @kevinlawes591 Рік тому +2

    Just a note I thought you would bring up mate plaster/dirty water on that oak fireplace will stain it black! A nightmare to remove! 👍

  • @max201016
    @max201016 4 місяці тому

    Irish the best plasterers in the world, learned everything I know from an Irishman.

  • @mickydola6472
    @mickydola6472 Рік тому +1

    Now then Kirk been a while mate hope ye well been chocka mate back on board watching and catching bck up with ye vids av a good1 muck 😉👍

  • @NevilleHayfield
    @NevilleHayfield 5 місяців тому

    Haha. I always hit a curb if i need Asap. Other than that i obviously use floating or Sand and Cement to brake it in. Or floor screeds ✌️🙏

  • @shaunhobson5658
    @shaunhobson5658 Рік тому

    Can you do a video on timings i.e when to walk away and when to apply second coat etc as i believe this is a big deal, thanks

  • @loganlouie9822
    @loganlouie9822 10 місяців тому +1

    Let it go off a bit on that first coat before a flatten in playing with it to much is always a c@star # 😂 ive learnt so many lessons over 17 years and still I’m learning.

  • @mrwright5699
    @mrwright5699 Рік тому +1

    Kirk have you ever had a Mt trowel misshapen? I have one here thats like a ~ if you look along the edge of it. I could get a decent finish with it but bought a new one and was better from out the box.

  • @alantippett7602
    @alantippett7602 Рік тому +2

    Hello Maisie! Kirk, I'm looking to buy another Marshaltown, already have a permashape and a 16×4. What are the main differences between a permashape and an Xlite, apart from more expensive and a different coloured metal?

  • @E69apeTheMatrix420
    @E69apeTheMatrix420 Рік тому +3

    I prefer the Ox trowel handle; Its rubber all the way round the corner so You dont rub the metal / start of the grip with your index finger all day and rub muck in the gap.. I find that annoying. Also the handle is short and and fat on the Marshaltown. I crunch my knuckles when I start down low and pull up a wall. Dont say Im holding it wrong because thats how I feel best in that situation my knuckles are catching the rivet section. The Ox handle seems a little longer so I can grip it with all fingers properly and not as fat so I dont catch my knuckles. I have both. The Marshaltown has a far superior blade and comes more curved out the box ( always get the permashape gold version! pre worn and better quality steel.) I You think the standard version is nice then its nothing on the legit permashape!) The Ox has a superior handle and is nicer to hold! I use both depending.

  • @Theninjagecko
    @Theninjagecko 5 місяців тому

    Made it look easy, damn.

  • @markmcgrath4853
    @markmcgrath4853 Рік тому +1

    when your fitting new plasterboard do you have to put scrim tape to existing ceilings and existing walls ? thankyou

  • @darrenrea6541
    @darrenrea6541 4 місяці тому

    What’s your thoughts on sponging the wall after first coat to flatten

  • @pete21pete21
    @pete21pete21 Рік тому

    I'm a retired spread and my arms are hurting just watching you ,

  • @iiparachuteregiment8800
    @iiparachuteregiment8800 8 місяців тому

    Yes I can

  • @TheCreatorSupreme15
    @TheCreatorSupreme15 Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @ricktusgrin906
    @ricktusgrin906 4 місяці тому

    I spent months breaking in a Tyzack, Marshaltown, changed the game.

  • @patrickhockey245
    @patrickhockey245 Рік тому

    Love a brand new marshaltown trowel prefer new to worn in better shape

  • @missfawkes9214
    @missfawkes9214 Рік тому

    I run a flap wheel up and down mine or use it for rendering jobs before I use it for plastering..

  • @Swiftspell
    @Swiftspell 10 місяців тому

    I've been a Plasterer of all types for 30 years, we haven't used hawks in 25 years. They simply slow down production. 6 inch Broad knife and a 20 x 5 trowels the only way to go for spreading

  • @stevennoon4722
    @stevennoon4722 Рік тому +1

    That's why om not getting the finish o use to get because the trowel isn't broken on properly at college and there trowels what other people have used would that make a big difference using trowels what other people have used kirk 🤔 just a question

  • @jb-78
    @jb-78 7 місяців тому

    I found out the hard way as an apprentice working behind a live socket😂 It threw me accross the room into a book shelf that collapsed on me, trowel had a 2 penny peice hole on the toe end of it😮

  • @andybarbour3620
    @andybarbour3620 Рік тому +2

    Is it possible to take a file to the edge to sharpen it up?

  • @jonesconrad1
    @jonesconrad1 Рік тому +2

    I prime the board with a little bit of gear before putting a big blob on.

  • @kadzo1000
    @kadzo1000 Рік тому +2

    Why is it that you've always got tuns of sockets to go round 🤣
    Great camera work too 👍🏻 (you don't see many 14 year old's labouring for there dad 👍🏻)

  • @jeffdidntkhs3945
    @jeffdidntkhs3945 Рік тому +2

    One way to drop the curb outside your house 😉

  • @adamcunningham2511
    @adamcunningham2511 9 місяців тому +1

    The black banded trowels are not pre worn . Thats why the gold banded permashape sells better. They all need wearing overtime though dont they ? In my opinion

  • @dannycooke18
    @dannycooke18 7 місяців тому

    my fate is a plasterer. he was doing a job at mine and was doing the internal corners with a brush and i noticed the brush was that worn down, there was hardly any bristles left. I said mate, can't you just go get a new brush? here i'll get one out the garage for ya. and he said no no, its taken years to get the brush perfect like it is!
    i was in a shock lol

  • @michaelm5137
    @michaelm5137 5 місяців тому

    What an absolute cowboy

  • @nigewoolf1524
    @nigewoolf1524 Рік тому +1

    Thought u could buy pre rounded ?

  • @weaversarms
    @weaversarms Рік тому

    Is that trowel still up for grabs. Starting a plastering course next month. Tried your link but it doesnt work. Cheers pal

  • @Benzknees
    @Benzknees 11 місяців тому +1

    It seems all plasterers advise sanding down the edge of new trowels. So why do manufacturers not supply them ready sanded?

  • @bongoT6
    @bongoT6 6 місяців тому

    Is it just better (for an amateur) to buy a pre-worn trowel?

  • @anthonystevenson9007
    @anthonystevenson9007 2 місяці тому

    I usually use a carbon stone on the edge and it works great don’t use any other trowel

  • @peterrathbone179
    @peterrathbone179 Рік тому

    I have a Marshaltown perma flex gold cost me a few quid and it does feel nice but I feel the carbon steel trowel gives me more control just feels that way. I can see from this video how you had to work harder with this trowel than you normally would. I also had a Nela plastic flex trowel which was effortless and I loved it but like you mentioned mine went out of shape also. We all need tools that just work without having to add the extra effort or thought, they are the keepers like your trusty old worn in trowel 😁😁😁!

  • @bee8583
    @bee8583 6 місяців тому

    Hi Kirk. Your videos are always packed with valuable info. Can I ask you mentioned that you usually use a 4inch wide trowel, does it dramatically effect the amount of gear you can get on the trowel each time as the blade is 25mm narrower?
    I’ve heard that the narrower blades are soo much easier on the wrist and joints as the distance from the hand and the edge of the blade is less and therefore the pressure required to trowel up is significantly reduced.

    • @Onthetrowel
      @Onthetrowel  6 місяців тому +1

      Well it sort of does a little bit but not that much that you would notice. I'm quite happy to sacrifice that little bit of extra spread for the compensation on my wrist.
      That said most people would be fine with a wider trowel. I abused my wrist for years with 18" and 22" trowels thinking was cleaver on the building sites

    • @bee8583
      @bee8583 5 місяців тому

      @@Onthetrowel as someone who’s still quite new in the plastering trade I feel the slightest difference in everything lol! I recently brought a tyzack 14x4.5 trowel and there is a noticeable difference in the way it just feels in the hand, feels better than the marshalltown, and the narrower blade definitely makes a difference, it may be just in my head that’s why I thought id ask you.
      Learnt so much from you so far and I appreciate all the advise.

  • @FB-uj2jt
    @FB-uj2jt 2 місяці тому

    Hi Kirk you have some beautiful looking kids (they obviously must take after mum)😂😂

  • @dhall9212
    @dhall9212 Рік тому +1

    Tidy 👍